Today - April 4th, 2017, BuzzFeed uploaded a video defining the generations.

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The most interesting thing is that BuzzFeed defines Generation Y (aka Millennials) as being born from 1981-1997 and Generation Z as being born from 1998-2010.

My opinion
1. Being born in 1999, I am very frustrated with being grouped with people born in 2002 and later.
2. By grouping me with those born from 2002-2010, they include me as growing up with smartphones, social media, etc... >:(
3. 1997 is an unusual and weird end to Gen Y.
4. 1998 is an unusual and weird start to Gen Z.
5. This video leaves even more people confused on the whole generation issue (as I've seen in the comments).

Today - April 4th, 2017, BuzzFeed uploaded a video defining the generations.

IfYjGxI6AJ8

The most interesting thing is that BuzzFeed defines Generation Y (aka Millennials) as being born from 1981-1997 and Generation Z as being born from 1998-2010.

My opinion
1. Being born in 1999, I am very frustrated with being grouped with people born in 2002 and later.
2. By grouping me with those born from 2002-2010, they include me as growing up with smartphones, social media, etc... >:(
3. 1997 is an unusual and weird end to Gen Y.
4. 1998 is an unusual and weird start to Gen Z.
5. This video leaves even more people confused on the whole generation issue (as I've seen in the comments).


Haven't watched the video yet, so this is going off what you said.


As a fellow 99er, I'd say we kind of did grow up with smartphones, social media, etc. I personally didn't own one until 2012 when I was 13, but my family and friends owned stuff like that so I was exposed to it. I also don't have any social media accounts, but I've been surrounded by people who do.

I remember my cousin coming over around 2006, he was always on MySpace, my mom used Facebook a lot in the late 2000's on the living room computer while I'd play Xbox. I'd say we're Y/Z cusp, but if you had to give a starting year for Gen Z, I don't think 1998 is a bad choice, personally.

Haven't watched the video yet, so this is going off what you said.


As a fellow 99er, I'd say we kind of did grow up with smartphones, social media, etc. I personally didn't own one until 2012 when I was 13, but my family and friends owned stuff like that so I was exposed to it. I also don't have any social media accounts, but I've been surrounded by people who do.

I remember my cousin coming over around 2006, he was always on MySpace, my mom used Facebook a lot in the late 2000's on the living room computer while I'd play Xbox. I'd say we're Y/Z cusp, but if you had to give a starting year for Gen Z, I don't think 1998 is a bad choice, personally.

1. We didn't grow up with smartphones. Getting a smartphone at the age of 12-14 (2011-2013) or even later when your core childhood (ages 5-10) was long over is not the same as a kid born in 2008 having a smartphone in his or her hand everyday at the age of 4 (in 2012)
2. We grew up with flip phones like the Motorola Razr, the T-Mobile Sidekick and BlackBerry's.
3. The modern social media didn't exist until the very late 2000s and we were almost out of our core childhoods by then.
4. 1998 is a horrible choice to start Gen Z. So you're saying that a person born in 1997 had A COMPLETELY different childhood from those born in 1998-2000....WHAT?  ???
5. Those born from '95-'00 are Gen Y/Gen Z cusps, in my opinion.

1. We didn't grow up with smartphones. Getting a smartphone at the age of 12-14 (2011-2013) or even later when your core childhood (ages 5-10) were long over is not the same as a kid born in 2008 having a smartphone in his or her had everyday at the age of 4 (in 2012)
2. We grew up with flip phones like the Motorola Razr, the T-Mobile Sidekick and BlackBerry's.
3. The modern social media didn't exist until the very late 2000s and we were almost out of our core childhoods by then.
4. 1998 is a horrible choice to start Gen Z. So you're saying that a person born in 1997 had A COMPLETELY different childhood from those born in 1998-2000....WHAT?  ???
5. Those born from '95-'00 are Gen Y/Gen Z cusps, in my opinion.


1. My family had smartphones when I was 8, they let me use them sometime, I may not have owned one, but I grew up around them if you get me. It didn't have to exist in our early childhood for us to not grow up with it.

2. Yeah, we did, but smartphones as well, it was just later in our childhood.

3. Social media still existed though, whereas it didn't for most of Gen Y (excluding people born in 97, etc.)

4. I'm not saying that at all, I'm saying that if you had to have a start to it without a cusp, 1998 isn't a bad choice, 95-00 is definitely Y/Z cusp, I think we agree on that.

5. Agreed.

Buzzfeed is going by the Goldman Sachs definition of Millennials and Gen Z.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8mZx4o32vs

I hate Buzzfeed but, there's no concrete definition of the generations. There's like 4000000 floating around. So all definitions of generations are technically "valid" tbh famalamadingdong.

And plus, Google did a study on "What Gen Z thinks is cool" recently and they used mid-90s to early 2000s as their definition, which contradicts Buzzfeed's definition (1998 certainly isn't mid 90s). The big media corporations come up with their own respective dates for generations; it's not like they have a meeting where they agree that they'll all follow the same dates from then on.

1. My family had smartphones when I was 8, they let me use them sometime, I may not have owned one, but I grew up around them if you get me. It didn't have to exist in our early childhood for us to not grow up with it.

2. Yeah, we did, but smartphones as well, it was just later in our childhood.

3. Social media still existed though, whereas it didn't for most of Gen Y (excluding people born in 97, etc.)

4. I'm not saying that at all, I'm saying that if you had to have a start to it without a cusp, 1998 isn't a bad choice, 95-00 is definitely Y/Z cusp, I think we agree on that.

5. Agreed.

1. Growing up means having something when you're really young (under the age of 10). For most people born 1998-2000, we didn't have smartphones until 2010/2011-present. You are what we call....an outlier  :P.
2. Most of us didn't even use the social media sites of back then like Myspace and anyways the social media of back then is mostly different to the social media of now. Also, literally everywhere you go today...social media is there. Growing up in the 2000s...that wasn't the case.
3. If you're going to say that we grew up with it because of our late childhood then why are those born in 1993-1997 considered Millennials? Late childhood is your tween years (maybe, even teen years).


Buzzfeed is going by the Goldman Sachs definition of Millennials and Gen Z.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8mZx4o32vs

I hate Buzzfeed but, there's no concrete definition of the generations. There's like 4000000 floating around. So all definitions of generations are technically "valid" tbh famalamadingdong.

That maybe true but I'm more upset that organizations like Goldman Sachs and BuzzFeed seem to think that those born 1995-2000 grew up with the modern tech of today when for the overwhelming majority of us that was not the case. At best, we're a mix of Gen Y and Gen Z.

Buzzfeed is not a reliable source of information. The company is run by a bunch of airheads.

1. Growing up means having something when you're really young (under the age of 10). For most people born 1998-2000, we didn't have smartphones until 2010/2011-present. You are what we call....an outlier  :P.
2. Most of us didn't even use the social media sites of back then like Myspace and anyways the social media of back then is mostly different to the social media of now. Also, literally everywhere you go today...social media is there. Growing up in the 2000s...that wasn't the case.
3. If you're going to say that we grew up with it because of our late childhood then why are those born in 1993-1997 considered Millennials? Late childhood is your tween and teen years.

That maybe true but I'm more upset that organizations like Goldman Sachs and BuzzFeed seem to think that those born 1995-2000 grew up with the modern tech of today when for the overwhelming majority of us that was not the case. At best, we're a mix of Gen Y and Gen Z.


1. Using your definition of growing up, I didn't grow up with smartphones then, got my first one in 2012.

2. I've only used social media once in 2011 (Instagram), and I think it's going to be different for everyone. Social media is different, but I thought we were just saying social media in general? Everyone has their own unique experience, social media was around me a lot as a child, I just never used it.

3. I'm not saying early childhood doesn't matter, I'm just saying late childhood matters too, and I considered late childhood age 9-12, but everyone has different definitions for things.

4. Yup! :)

I think overall, we're on the same page, we just have different definitions and perceptions of things. :)

Buzzfeed is not a reliable source of information. The company is run by a bunch of airheads.

I guess that's true  ;D.


1. Using your definition of growing up, I didn't grow up with smartphones then, got my first one in 2012.

2. I've only used social media once in 2011 (Instagram), and I think it's going to be different for everyone. Social media is different, but I thought we were just saying social media in general? Everyone has their own unique experience, social media was around me a lot as a child, I just never used it.

3. I'm not saying early childhood doesn't matter, I'm just saying late childhood matters too, and I considered late childhood age 9-12, but everyone has different definitions for things.

4. Yup! :)

I think overall, we're on the same page, we just have different definitions and perceptions of things. :)

We are on the same page but you're mixing up core childhood with late childhood. You can't grow up with something that became popular after you exited elementary school. However, this is redundant...I'm just tired of being grouped with people the kids of today.

I don't understand why you guys want to be Millennials, Millennials suck ass.

Gen Z has the best dank memes and is at least self-aware, unlike my bunch of cross dressing, binge drinking, work shy, lazy, illogical moron Millennials.

I don't understand why you guys want to be Millennials, Millennials suck ass.

Gen Z has the best dank memes and is at least self-aware, unlike my bunch of cross dressing, binge drinking, work shy, lazy, illogical moron Millennials.

I know you're joking but......
https://pics.onsizzle.com/Facebook-bc5fa6.png

You were born in 99, that's not too different from 2000 babies.

Stop posting Tumblr garbage memes! ;D

I guess that's true  ;D.
We are on the same page but you're mixing up core childhood with late childhood. You can't grow up with something that became popular after you exited elementary school. However, this is redundant...I'm just tired of being grouped with people the kids of today.


That's understandable, generations as a whole are too large in my opinion. I just don't feel like I'm a millennial personally, I'd say I lean Z, but have Y as well.

You were born in 99, that's not too different from 2000 babies.

Stop posting Tumblr garbage memes! ;D

https://shinashiz.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/90s-kids.png

Stay mad.

That's understandable, generations as a whole are too large in my opinion. I just don't feel like I'm a millennial personally, I'd say I lean Z, but have Y as well.

That's why we agree that we're a mix of Y & Z.

Zelek was born in 1995. Not even he remembers the 90's. ::)

Zelek was born in 1995. Not even he remembers the 90's. ::)

IKR. If you was born in the '90s and can't remember the '90s....you suck (including me)  ;).

IKR. If you was born in the '90s and can't remember the '90s....you suck (including me)  ;).


Exactly! ;D

Zelek was born in 1995. Not even he remembers the 90's. ::)

Buzzfeed told me the 90s ended in 2004, so actually I do remember the 90s. ;D

Buzzfeed told me the 90s ended in 2004, so actually I do remember the 90s. ;D

But do you remember how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop?  8)

I know you're joking but......


;D

As a quintessential millennial, being born in 86 and all, I'm pretty determined to go easy on gen z. I wouldn't wish the hate Y has gotten over the years on you guys.

;D

As a quintessential millennial, being born in 86 and all, I'm pretty determined to go easy on gen z. I wouldn't wish the hate Y has gotten over the years on you guys.

I consider myself a Gen Y/Gen Z cusp. I notice many people hating on kids of today but I'm don't feel like that's necessary. What if I was born in 2009 instead of 1999? or What if you was born in 2006 instead of 1986? Would you want people to hate you because "you grew up with smartphones"? Obviously.......NO.

I agree with the general premise with most of their characteristics. I do agree that the dates they use are a bit controversial though. I generally accept 1995-2000/1 being the Y/Z Cusp. Those born 2002 onwards being purely Z, 1994 & before being purely Y.

I agree with the general premise with most of their characteristics. I do agree that the dates they use are a bit controversial though. I generally accept 1995-2000/1 being the Y/Z Cusp. Those born 2002 onwards being purely Z, 1994 & before being purely Y.

Yeah, I have no problem with the definitions and characteristics with the Generations before Gen Y. Gen Y and Gen Z is where my disagreement occurs because Gen Z is way too short and they characterize me with growing up with smartphones, social media, tablets, etc. Also, like you said I feel those born 1995-2000 are a mix of Gen Y & Gen Z.

Speaking about generations I remember Buzzfeed doing this ad campaign 3 years ago

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Ironically this is the video that sparked my interest in generations. I remember seeing this for the first time when I was 18 and seeing how Gen Y was defined as b. early 1980's - mid 1990's, and thinking 'damn, that's pretty accurate'. Looking back though, while I still relate to a lot of the stuff on the Y side, its clearly from a pure childhood perspective. Most core Millennials born in the Late 80's/Early 90's would relate to a lot of this pertaining to both their childhoods and their youth's period (tweens, teens, etc.) which is pretty crucial.


Anyways, from a childhood perspective for those born in 1995 & after, I'd say if you relate to most of the Y side of things, you're childhood was more Y influenced. On the contrary if you don't relate to much of this at all I'd say your childhood would lean on the Z side of things.

Speaking about generations I remember Buzzfeed doing this ad campaign 3 years ago

MybFlN0Vn3s

Ironically this is the video that sparked my interest in generations. I remember seeing this for the first time when I was 18 and seeing how Gen Y was defined as b. early 1980's - mid 1990's, and thinking 'damn, that's pretty accurate'. Looking back though, while I still relate to a lot of the stuff on the Y side, its clearly from a pure childhood perspective. Most core Millennials born in the Late 80's/Early 90's would relate to a lot of this pertaining to both their childhoods and their youth's period (tweens, teens, etc.) which is pretty crucial.


Anyways, from a childhood perspective for those born in 1995 & after, I'd say if you relate to most of the Y side of things, you're childhood was more Y influenced. On the contrary if you don't relate to much of this at all I'd say your childhood would lean on the Z side of things.

I watched the video and didn't relate to Generation X at all. However, when it came to Generation Y...I would say that I could relate to 65-70% of it.

That's understandable, generations as a whole are too large in my opinion. I just don't feel like I'm a millennial personally, I'd say I lean Z, but have Y as well.


I don't think your generation has to dictate what personality you have. I don't have a Millennial personality either.

Today - April 4th, 2017, BuzzFeed uploaded a video defining the generations.

IfYjGxI6AJ8

The most interesting thing is that BuzzFeed defines Generation Y (aka Millennials) as being born from 1981-1997 and Generation Z as being born from 1998-2010.

My opinion
1. Being born in 1999, I am very frustrated with being grouped with people born in 2002 and later.
2. By grouping me with those born from 2002-2010, they include me as growing up with smartphones, social media, etc... >:(
3. 1997 is an unusual and weird end to Gen Y.
4. 1998 is an unusual and weird start to Gen Z.
5. This video leaves even more people confused on the whole generation issue (as I've seen in the comments).

Generation Z are born after the year 2000, that is usually what is the standard definition (1982 - 2000), so yeah you are technically Generation Y/millennial.

Today - April 4th, 2017, BuzzFeed uploaded a video defining the generations.

IfYjGxI6AJ8

The most interesting thing is that BuzzFeed defines Generation Y (aka Millennials) as being born from 1981-1997 and Generation Z as being born from 1998-2010.

My opinion
1. Being born in 1999, I am very frustrated with being grouped with people born in 2002 and later.
2. By grouping me with those born from 2002-2010, they include me as growing up with smartphones, social media, etc... >:(
3. 1997 is an unusual and weird end to Gen Y.
4. 1998 is an unusual and weird start to Gen Z.
5. This video leaves even more people confused on the whole generation issue (as I've seen in the comments).


I thought this was a very good video, they did a decent job. As a Generation X guy I can relate to this.

I guess that's true  ;D.
We are on the same page but you're mixing up core childhood with late childhood. You can't grow up with something that became popular after you exited elementary school. However, this is redundant...I'm just tired of being grouped with people the kids of today.



Buzzfeed just makes video for entertainment.

But do you remember how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie pop?  8)


Ask the Owl.

But can 1995-2000 born ones remember people did not have internet or a simple mobile phone?

If you were born in 99/2000 you would have spent your entire teenhood in the 2010s. That really differs from an early 90s born, spending teenhood in the 2000s.

Same is true for childhood. A childhood in the Y2K era is different from a late 00s one.

I thought this was a very good video, they did a decent job. As a Generation X guy I can relate to this.

That's fine. As I said earlier my problem with the video is not about the Generations before Y.



Buzzfeed just makes video for entertainment.

That is true but BuzzFeed also makes serious videos and this video is not a serious video per se but defining the generations is not something most people find as entertainment.


Ask the Owl.

If I did the world may never know :-\\.

But can 1995-2000 born ones remember people did not have internet or a simple mobile phone?

No we can't remember a time before the Internet but people born 1990-1994 can barely (if at all) remember a time before the Internet as well. However, the Internet was not ubiquitous like it is now until the very late 2000s.
BTW, a flip phone is a simple mobile phone. It's not as simple as those brick phones from the 1980s and early 1990s but flip phones are still simple. Also, I remember (and so can many people born 1995-2000) the Nokia 3310. The Nokia 3310 was a very simple mobile phone.


If you were born in 99/2000 you would have spent your entire teenhood in the 2010s. That really differs from an early 90s born, spending teenhood in the 2000s.

Same is true for childhood. A childhood in the Y2K era is different from a late 00s one.

Of course we know our childhoods aren't the 100% the same that not what generations are about it's about similarities and common characteristics. I'm pretty sure a person born in 1982 didn't have the same childhood as a person born in 1992. One grew up in the late 1980s to early 1990s (born in '82) while the other grew up in the late 1990s to early 2000s. I really think that you just don't like us "younger kids" and you feel that we are "spoiled brats who only want to be Instagram famous".... >:(. That's seemingly what I get from your comments and that's why I get frustrated with BuzzFeed's and many other companies characteristics of Gen Z. If you're going to group us born in 1995-2000 as being Gen Z then at least acknowledge the big differences that we have over those born in 2005-2010.

No we can't remember a time before the Internet but people born 1990-1994 can barely (if at all) remember a time before the Internet as well. However, the Internet was not ubiquitous like it is now until the very late 2000s.
BTW, a flip phone is a simple mobile phone. It's not as simple as those brick phones from the 1980s and early 1990s but flip phones are still simple. Also, I remember (and so can many people born 1995-2000) the Nokia 3310. The Nokia 3310 was a very simple mobile phone.
Of course we know our childhoods aren't the 100% the same that not what generations are about it's about similarities and common characteristics. I'm pretty sure a person born in 1982 didn't have the same childhood as a person born in 1992. One grew up in the late 1980s to early 1990s (born in '82) while the other grew up in the late 1990s to early 2000s. I really think that you just don't like us "younger kids" and you feel that we are "spoiled brats who only want to be Instagram famous".... >:(. That's seemingly what I get from your comments and that's why I get frustrated with BuzzFeed's and many other companies characteristics of Gen Z. If you're going to group us born in 1995-2000 as being Gen Z then at least acknowledge the big differences that we have over those born in 2005-2010.

We are not gen z. Especially me who was born in early January 1995. You as well because you were born in 1999, 2000 and up are gen z.

We are not gen z. Especially me who was born in early January 1995. You as well because you were born in 1999, 2000 and up are gen z.

Why is that?

The sense of elitism from those born 1990-1993...I can understand even though elitism is a horrible personality trait. However, elitism from those born 1994-1996, even 1997 is ridiculous. I am not adverse to being classified as Gen Z, all I did was make a simple statement saying just acknowledge the differences. Also, personally I definetly feel as a Gen Y/Gen Z cusp. If you was born 1995-2000, you're definetly not full Gen Y or full Gen Z....you're a mix of BOTH. I mean people are perfectly fine with Baby Boomers going from 1946 until 1964 but oh my god, if Gen Y is from 1981/1982-2000....THE WORLD IS ENDING. SMH 8-P.

BTW, a flip phone is a simple mobile phone. It's not as simple as those brick phones from the 1980s and early 1990s but flip phones are still simple. Also, I remember (and so can many people born 1995-2000) the Nokia 3310. The Nokia 3310 was a very simple mobile phone.


yup, I regard the simple phones every phone before smartphone. But I mean, I remember in 1999-2001 when many people acquired a mobile phone, but still many people did not have one; they asked themselves "why would I need a phone outside my house?".

And you're right. You're childhood is 2000s. If they define Gen Z as smartphone-focused, then you're not part of that. It seems closer to Gen Y.
It's up to you.

Btw, if I seemed somewhat bitter about the younger generation, then that's an overgeneralization from my side, indeed augmented because of the selfie-focused shallow culture. But of course, many of these are 20+ years old, and of course, not everyone is part of this mainstream culture.
People tend to underestimate others younger than themselves; you get credits for reminding myself I was 18 only seven years ago.

yup, I regard the simple phones every phone before smartphone. But I mean, I remember in 1999-2001 when many people acquired a mobile phone, but still many people did not have one; they asked themselves "why would I need a phone outside my house?".

And you're right. You're childhood is 2000s. If they define Gen Z as smartphone-focused, then you're not part of that. It seems closer to Gen Y.
It's up to you.

Btw, if I seemed somewhat bitter about the younger generation, then that's an overgeneralization from my side, indeed augmented because of the selfie-focused shallow culture. But of course, many of these are 20+ years old, and of course, not everyone is part of this mainstream culture.
People tend to underestimate others younger than themselves; you get credits for reminding myself I was 18 only seven years ago.

OK, I understand you now. I personally identify as a Gen Y & Gen Z cusp (basically a mix of both). I can't really identify with a person born in 1982-1985 (my sister was born in '83) but I also can't identify with a person born in 2005-2010. I definetly can identify with people born 1994/1995-2000.

OK, I understand you now. I personally identify as a Gen Y & Gen Z cusp (basically a mix of both). I can't really identify with a person born in 1982-1985 (my sister was born in '83) but I also can't identify with a person born in 2005-2010. I definetly can identify with people born 1994/1995-2000.


You relate more with people 4/5 years older than you than someone just a measly couple of years younger than you?

You relate more with people 4/5 years older than you than someone just a measly couple of years younger than you?

I never said that I couldn't relate to those born in 2001-2002 but 1994/1995-2000 is the group I relate to the most. Is there something wrong?  ???. Why are so many people on this thread smug about the fact that a person born in 1999 can relate to those born in the mid 1990s? Geez, you guys need to just relax. Elitism is just....8-P.

I never said that I couldn't relate to those born in 2001-2002 but 1994/1995-2000 is the group I relate to the most. Is there something wrong?  ???. Why are so many people on this thread smug about the fact that a person born in 1999 can relate to those born in the mid 1990s? Geez, you guys need to just relax. Elitism is just....8-P.


I only talk to one person daily born in 2003 (December) on Xbox, he's the youngest one (oldest was born in 86) in our group, and there's more similarities than you'd expect. Obviously there are a lot of differences, but the same can be said comparing a 95er to a 99er.

Although, I think most people will relate to someone four years older than them more than four years younger since the older ones remember everything that you do. :)

I never said that I couldn't relate to those born in 2001-2002 but 1994/1995-2000 is the group I relate to the most. Is there something wrong?  ???. Why are so many people on this thread smug about the fact that a person born in 1999 can relate to those born in the mid 1990s? Geez, you guys need to just relax. Elitism is just....8-P.


Because that doesn't make much sense. Someone born in 1994/5 was already 4 or 5 years old by the time you was born. They're solid early 2000's kids, mid 2000's tweens, Late 2000's/Early 2010's teens. Meanwhile youre more of Mid-Late 00's Hybrid kid, early 2010's tween, and Mid 2010's teen. I'm not saying you can't relate to them, but if your gonna be generous in saying you relate to 1994/5 babies, you kind of have to be sympathetic in saying you relate to 2003/4 babies.

Also how is pointing out this fact being an elitist? Aren't you being a bit smug by claiming that those 5 years older than yourself are who you relate to, but someone only 2-3 years younger than yourself you cannot relate to? I never really understood this weird hate train I see from Late 90s babies in relation with Early 00's babies.



I only talk to one person daily born in 2003 (December) on Xbox, he's the youngest one (oldest was born in 86) in our group, and there's more similarities than you'd expect. Obviously there are a lot of differences, but the same can be said comparing a 95er to a 99er.

Although, I think most people will relate to someone four years older than them more than four years younger since the older ones remember everything that you do. :)


THIS. As I've always said, 3 years is the main group of people one relates to. 4-5 years is where you may relate on some things. 6-9 years is a sub-generational gap with few relations. 10+ years is a clear generational gap where you relate to little or no things.

I never said that I couldn't relate to those born in 2001-2002 but 1994/1995-2000 is the group I relate to the most. Is there something wrong?  ???. Why are so many people on this thread smug about the fact that a person born in 1999 can relate to those born in the mid 1990s? Geez, you guys need to just relax. Elitism is just....8-P.


1990 folks are the worst. Some believe they relate to 80s people way more than anyone born after them (Yes, even 1991). It's irritating.

I only talk to one person daily born in 2003 (December) on Xbox, he's the youngest one (oldest was born in 86) in our group, and there's more similarities than you'd expect. Obviously there are a lot of differences, but the same can be said comparing a 95er to a 99er.

Although, I think most people will relate to someone four years older than them more than four years younger since the older ones remember everything that you do. :)

For me, I have hardly interacted personally with a person born after 2002. There are only 2....one born in 2004 and the other in 2009. I helped babysit the one born in 2009 and the one born in 2004 is my female cousin and we have very few similarities.

Because that doesn't make much sense. Someone born in 1994/5 was already 4 or 5 years old by the time you was born. They're solid early 2000's kids, mid 2000's tweens, Late 2000's/Early 2010's teens. Meanwhile youre more of Mid-Late 00's Hybrid kid, early 2010's tween, and Mid 2010's teen. I'm not saying you can't relate to them, but if your gonna be generous in saying you relate to 1994/5 babies, you kind of have to be sympathetic in saying you relate to 2003/4 babies.

Also how is pointing out this fact being an elitist? Aren't you being a bit smug by claiming that those 5 years older than yourself are who you relate to, but someone only 2-3 years younger than yourself you cannot relate to? I never really understood this weird hate train I see from Late 90s babies in relation with Early 00's babies.


THIS. As I've always said, 3 years is the main group of people one relates to. 4-5 years is where you may relate on some things. 6-9 years is a sub-generational gap with few relations. 10+ years is a clear generational gap where you relate to little or no things.

I never said a person born in 2003 and 2004 couldn't relate to me. I'm not smug or elitist because I don't think I'm better to anyone. I just have hardly interacted with a person born after 2002.


1990 folks are the worst. Some believe they relate to 80s people way more than anyone born after them (Yes, even 1991). It's irritating.

Yes, I know. It's very frustrating.  8-P

I never said a person born in 2003 and 2004 couldn't relate to me. I'm not smug or elitist because I don't think I'm better to anyone. I just have hardly interacted with a person born after 2002.


Ok that makes a little more sense. Question though, how much influence do you have with those born in the mid 90's? Family members, schooling etc.


Yes, I know. It's very frustrating.  8-P

I find this quote funny because your ironically being a bit of a hypocrite yourself bud. UltraGameDog said (and I've seen it first hand and its embarrassing) that those born in 1989 & 1990 typically try to be 'cool' by trying to mix in with the late 80's crowd, which is fine because they're all close in age. But I've seen that many of them would then dog on those born in say 1991 or 1992, despite them also being close in age. I've seen asinine comments before like 'Us 80's babies were the last generation to receive the wise words of Mr. Feeny, those born in 1990 or after are a bunch caffeine crazed Hannah Montana Kids', and yet the person who made that comment was most likely born in 1989 themselves ;D.

The point is that you should try to be consistent and not be a massive contradiction. Saying you may on a personal level may relate with someone say in 1997 better than say 2001 due to personal reasons (be it family, friends, etc.) is fine. To say that you're 'generation' of people is those born from 1995-2000, but to NOT include someone born just a couple of years younger than you, doesn't make much sense. You get where I'm coming from?

It would be like me (born in 1996) to say, 'those born in 1991-1997 are my generation of people', but for me not to include someone born in 1998 or 1999, aka those only 2-3 years younger than me. People I actually spent more time in compulsory school with than I ever did with those born in 1991/1992. Heck I've only been in high school with Late 1992 babies, other than that I spent more of high school years with those born in 1998 & 1999 than I ever did with those born in 1991 & 1992.

Ok that makes a little more sense. Question though, how much influence do you have with those born in the mid 90's? Family members, schooling etc.


I find this quote funny because your ironically being a bit of a hypocrite yourself bud. UltraGameDog said (and I've seen it first hand and its embarrassing) that those born in 1989 & 1990 typically try to be 'cool' by trying to mix in with the late 80's crowd, which is fine because they're all close in age. But I've seen that many of them would then dog on those born in say 1991 or 1992, despite them also being close in age. I've seen asinine comments before like 'Us 80's babies were the last generation to receive the wise words of Mr. Feeny, those born in 1990 or after are a bunch caffeine crazed Hannah Montana Kids', and yet the person who made that comment was most likely born in 1989 themselves ;D.

The point is that you should try to be consistent and not be a massive contradiction. Saying you may on a personal level may relate with someone say in 1997 better than say 2001 due to personal reasons (be it family, friends, etc.) is fine. To say that you're 'generation' of people is those born from 1995-2000, but to NOT include someone born just a couple of years younger than you, doesn't make much sense. You get where I'm coming from?

1. UltraGameDog was born in 1993, so to have those born in 1990-1992 say that they relate to late 80s born more is frustrating to him.
2. How am I being contradictory?. I never said that a person born in 2001 and 2002 can't relate to me. Only since high school have I interacted with people born in '01 to '02.
3. I have a few friends and relatives born in the mid 1990s and I relate to them very well.

1. UltraGameDog was born in 1993, so have those born in 1990-1992 say that they relate to late 80s born more is frustrating to him.
2. How am I being contradictory?. I never said that a person born in 2001 and 2002 can't relate to me. Only since high school have I interacted with people born in '01 to '02.
3. I have a few friends and relatives born in the mid 1990s and I relate to them very well.


Once again I'm not saying you can't relate with those born in the mid 90's (I seem to relate with you pretty well), but all I was trying to do was have you realize that if you're going to include those born in 94-96' in your personal generation rationally it would make sense (at the very least) to include those born in 01' & 02'. Besides you spent most of your compulsory schooling years with those born in 01' & 02' than with those born in 94' & 95'.

Once again I'm not saying you can't relate with those born in the mid 90's (I seem to relate with you pretty well), but all I was trying to do was have you realize that if you're going to include those born in 94-96' in your personal generation rationally it would make sense (at the very least) to include those born in 01' & 02'. Besides you spent most of your compulsory schooling years with those born in 01' & 02' than with those born in 94' & 95'.

I agree with most of your statement. I disagree with your last statement. Growing up we never interacted with kids born in 2001 and 2002. Also, only within the past 2 years have 2001 and 2002 borns joined HS. 2002 borns just started in 2016 and I was already 17. School is compulsory until you're 16. So technically 2001 and 2002 borns came after I was under the compulsory age for school. Fine, I'll include 2001 and 2002 but does it really make a difference? I still relate to '95-'00 borns more.

I agree with most of your statement. I disagree with your last statement. Growing up we never interacted with kids born in 2001 and 2002. Also, only within the past 2 years have 2001 and 2002 borns joined HS.


Seriously!? You never in your life played with kids 2-3 years younger than you in the playground? Btw did you play more often with Mid 90's babies than with early 2000's babies?


2002 borns just started in 2016 and I was already 17. School is compulsory until you're 16. So technically 2001 and 2002 borns came after I was under the compulsory age for school. Fine, I'll include 2001 and 2002 but does it really make a difference? I still relate to '95-'00 borns more.

Ok I forgot your from a different country, Australia right? The reason being here in the U.S we typically divide education like this:

Elementary/Grade School
Kindergarten - 5th Grade (Age 5-11)


Middle/Jr. High School
6th Grade - 8th Grade (Age 11-14)


High School
9th Grade - 12th Grade (Age 14-18)

Seriously!? You never in your life played with kids 2-3 years younger than you in the playground? Btw did you play more often with Mid 90's babies than with early 2000's babies?

Ok I forgot your from a different country, Australia right? The reason being here in the U.S we typically divide education like this:

When I was younger and we played in the playground, we primarily played with people born in 1999 & 2000. I don't even think we knew of anyone born in 2001 or 2002. Also, I've played a little with kids born in '96 and '97.

I'm American not Australian. I know how we divide school. I also know that school is compulsory until you're 16 years old.

1. UltraGameDog was born in 1993, so to have those born in 1990-1992 say that they relate to late 80s born more is frustrating to him.
Well I haven't seen the 1991 and '92 folks do it since I have many friends from those years. It's really just the 1990 ones despite that I also have buddies of them too,  and it can definitely be frustrating.

On top on that, 80s people do it as well. In fact, the early 80s ones have stated they have more in common with the late 70s folks while they can't relate to anyone after them. It's an endless cycle.

I never said a person born in 2003 and 2004 couldn't relate to me. I'm not smug or elitist because I don't think I'm better to anyone. I just have hardly interacted with a person born after 2002.
Yes, I know. It's very frustrating.  8-P


I've interacted with a lot of people born post 2003 (I have 13 younger first cousins that live within five miles of where I am, the oldest being born December 2005), and I can actually think of one kid that was born in October 2004 who is extremely similar to how I was when I was his age. We tend to get along when he comes over every once in a while (like once or twice per year), he's surprisingly mature and calm for a 12 year old, really smart kid.

The really big differences seem to start in 2005/06 babies from what I've noticed though, video games to them are games like Temple Run, Angry Birds, and other mobile games. Some of my cousins (One was born in 2010 and her favorite game is Pro Skater 4 on OG Xbox) come over and play on my consoles, but mainly play games on their tablets. A lot spend more time watching gamers on YouTube then playing them, it's interesting.

Well I haven't seen the 1991 and '92 folks do it since I have many friends from those years. It's really just the 1990 ones despite that I also have buddies of them too,  and it can definitely be frustrating.

On top on that, 80s people do it as well. In fact, the early 80s ones have stated they have more in common with the late 70s folks while they can't relate to anyone after them. It's an endless cycle.

Cool. Looney Toon is one of the few people who was born in 1990 that doesn't look down upon those born 1993-1999.


I've interacted with a lot of people born post 2003 (I have 13 younger first cousins that live within five miles of where I am, the oldest being born December 2005), and I can actually think of one kid that was born in October 2004 who is extremely similar to how I was when I was his age. We tend to get along when he comes over every once in a while (like once or twice per year), he's surprisingly mature and calm for a 12 year old, really smart kid.

The really big differences seem to start in 2005/06 babies from what I've noticed though, video games to them are games like Temple Run, Angry Birds, and other mobile games. Some of my cousins (One was born in 2010 and her favorite game is Pro Skater 4 on OG Xbox) come over and play on my consoles, but mainly play games on their tablets. A lot spend more time watching gamers on YouTube then playing them, it's interesting.

OK, interesting. That sound alright. I was a mature and calm 12 year old....not too unusual.

The sense of elitism from those born 1990-1993...I can understand even though elitism is a horrible personality trait. However, elitism from those born 1994-1996, even 1997 is ridiculous. I am not adverse to being classified as Gen Z, all I did was make a simple statement saying just acknowledge the differences. Also, personally I definetly feel as a Gen Y/Gen Z cusp. If you was born 1995-2000, you're definetly not full Gen Y or full Gen Z....you're a mix of BOTH. I mean people are perfectly fine with Baby Boomers going from 1946 until 1964 but oh my god, if Gen Y is from 1981/1982-2000....THE WORLD IS ENDING. SMH 8-P.

I said you were gen Y, not Z.

Seriously!? You never in your life played with kids 2-3 years younger than you in the playground? Btw did you play more often with Mid 90's babies than with early 2000's babies?

I personally never did. We always thought hanging out with people in lower grades than you was uncool, and you never wanted to be that kid to be seen with someone younger than you.  ;D

I said you were gen Y, not Z.

OK, sorry then.


I personally never did. We always thought hanging out with people in lower grades than you was uncool, and you never wanted to be that kid to be seen with someone younger than you.  ;D

Exactly.  ;D LMAO, we never wanted to play with someone more than a year younger than us. It was definitely seen as uncool :P.

Some of you guys need to calm down with the "what's the difference between people born 1985 and 1990 or 1997 and 1999 or 1994 and 1998" blah blah blah posts. There are people out there who are wise beyond their years, like me.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X I also know Katy Perry's entire discography by heart so I'm hip with the kids.  8)

I sometimes have a hard time relating to those born 1998 and up. The latest year I can relate to is someone born 1997. I'm not sure why this is, but I've always seen late 90s kids as much younger than me. Maybe because they don't remember the early 2000s (or barely do). But they are still gen Y, there's no denying that. But on the same front, someone born in 1992 or 1993 probably has a hard time relating to me as well. My brother was born in 1990 and I feel like we are completely different as he grew up in the 90s and I grew up in the 2000s.

Cool. Looney Toon is one of the few people who was born in 1990 that doesn't look down upon those born 1993-1999.
and my 1990 friends as well. I haven't had any problems with them doing that; however, I did encounter one like that, and he just kept being elitist to the folks he argued with.


All I did was make a simple statement saying just acknowledge the differences.
And this what some people don't realize. You're aware that there are similarities and differences between certain years and I'm glad; however, those same others won't recognize that.  For example, I have seen statements saying that 90s folks didn't grow up with the first few Power Rangers when it was in demand, but the problem is the people who said that forget that it was popular until Pokemon took over its spot.

Some of you guys need to calm down with the "what's the difference between people born 1985 and 1990 or 1997 and 1999 or 1994 and 1998" blah blah blah posts. There are people out there who are wise beyond their years, like me.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X I also know Katy Perry's entire discography by heart so I'm hip with the kids.  8)

I know Kenny G's entire discography so I'm hipper with the kids.

I sometimes have a hard time relating to those born 1998 and up. The latest year I can relate to is someone born 1997. I'm not sure why this is, but I've always seen late 90s kids as much younger than me. Maybe because they don't remember the early 2000s (or barely do). But they are still gen Y, there's no denying that.

That's definitely fine because that's how you personally feel. I'm talking about those born 1994-1996 who think that they are so much better than those of us born 1997-1999. Some people born from 1994-1996 even say that "We are the last '90s kids"....it's so annoying and frustrating :-\\.

I also know Katy Perry's entire discography by heart so I'm hip with the kids.  8)

Katy Perry SUCKS!!!!  8-P 8-P 8-P

Some of you guys need to calm down with the "what's the difference between people born 1985 and 1990 or 1997 and 1999 or 1994 and 1998" blah blah blah posts. There are people out there who are wise beyond their years, like me.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X I also know Katy Perry's entire discography by heart so I'm hip with the kids.  8)


Katy Perry is so early 2010s, Slowpoke. You're falling behind, Chained to the Rhythm is dropping on the charts every week. :P

and my 1990 friends as well. I haven't had any problems with them doing that; however, I did encounter one like that, and he just kept being elitist to the folks he argued with.
And this what some people don't realize. You're aware that there are similarities and differences between certain years and I'm glad; however, those same others won't recognize that.  For example, I have seen statements saying that 90s folks didn't grow up with the first few Power Rangers when it was in demand, but the problem is the people who said that forget that it was popular until Pokemon took over its spot.

My stepbrother was actually born in July 1990 (exactly 9 years before me)...I was born in July 1999. We obviously have lots of differences but we found that there are some similarities between us :P. He doesn't look down on those born 1993-1999.

Some of you guys need to calm down with the "what's the difference between people born 1985 and 1990 or 1997 and 1999 or 1994 and 1998" blah blah blah posts. There are people out there who are wise beyond their years, like me.  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X I also know Katy Perry's entire discography by heart so I'm hip with the kids.  8)

Who's Katy Perry?  ???

I personally never did. We always thought hanging out with people in lower grades than you was uncool, and you never wanted to be that kid to be seen with someone younger than you.  ;D


It was the opposite for me. People bragged about how many friends they had outside the grade.  ;D

And in my neighbourhood, everyone was friends with everybody. People who were 4-5 years older than me taught me how to ride a bike and protected me from bullies.  :-X And when I was 10/11 I had a friend who was 5/6. We'd take him to the barber shop to spike his hair and dress him in chains and rings. Dezigner punk! ;D

So... this was a thing made by Buzzfeed? A stupid video proclaiming when generations were around? You know that Buzzfeed is basically full of secluded people who are obsessed with social media, right?

It was the opposite for me. People bragged about how many friends they had outside the grade.  ;D

And in my neighbourhood, everyone was friends with everybody. People who were 4-5 years older than me taught me how to ride a bike and protected me from bullies.  :-X And when I was 10/11 I had a friend who was 5/6. We'd take him to the barber shop to spike his hair and dress him in chains and rings. Dezigner punk! ;D

That's interesting, when I was 10 and 11...I wanted to punch every 5-6 year old in the face :P but now that I'm almost 18....I've toned down and while lots of kids are still annoying, I would like to mentor some of the little kiddies :).

So... this was a thing made by Buzzfeed? A stupid video proclaiming when generations were around? You know that Buzzfeed is basically full of secluded people who are obsessed with social media, right?

But...BuzzFeed is my MASTER, I worship them. How dare you insult my dear SENPAI?  :\'(

Katy Perry is so early 2010s, Slowpoke. You're falling behind, Chained to the Rhythm is dropping on the charts every week. :P



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I know Kenny G's entire discography so I'm hipper with the kids.


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To be fair, people born in 1990 were kids in an extremely rapidly changing decade and were the last year to have memories before the internet entirely took off.

To be fair, people born in 1990 were kids in an extremely rapidly changing decade and were the last year to have memories before the internet entirely took off.


Same with those born in 1988-2002 (2002 is the last birth year that I could consider people as 2000s kids) grew up in rapidly changing decades (90s and 2000s). Except most of them probably didn't obsess over generations until they heard about Buzzfeed.

Like I've said on another thread, if I had a choice I wish I was born in 1970 (in the months, January to July) or 1981 (in the months, January to July)....:P.

Like I've said on another thread, if I had a choice I wish I was born in 1970 (in the months, January to July) or 1981 (in the months, January to July)....:P.

I'm perfectly content with being born in January 1999, I've never wanted to be born in a different time personally. Today is so great (back then was too pop culturally, but I'm talking about the standards of living)! :D


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I'm perfectly content with being born in January 1999, I've never wanted to be born in a different time personally. Today is so great (back then was too pop culturally, but I'm talking about the standards of living)! :D

That's great. I don't have problem with being born in July 1999. However, sometimes...I just wish I was older and could have gotten to experience the 1980s and 1990s with it's flaws and all.

Same with those born in 1988-2002 (2002 is the last birth year that I could consider people as 2000s kids) grew up in rapidly changing decades (90s and 2000s). Except most of them probably didn't obsess over generations until they heard about Buzzfeed.


Yeah but someone born in 1990 would see a lot more contrast growing up than someone born in 2002.

That's interesting, when I was 10 and 11...I wanted to punch every 5-6 year old in the face :P but now that I'm almost 18....I've toned down and while lots of kids are still annoying, I would like to mentor some of the little kiddies :).


Kids are fun! My coworker invited me to dinner, and instead of watching baseball with him I decided instead to sing karaoke with his 2/4 year old daughters (to Katy Perry of course)!  ;D

Yeah but someone born in 1990 would see a lot more contrast growing up than someone born in 2002.


It's quite obvious since they were preteens when 2002 babies were born.

Kids are fun! My coworker invited me to dinner, and instead of watching baseball with him I decided instead to sing karaoke with his 2/4 year old daughters (to Katy Perry of course)!  ;D

;D Sounds like you're in tune with the kiddies.

When I was younger and we played in the playground, we primarily played with people born in 1999 & 2000. I don't even think we knew of anyone born in 2001 or 2002. Also, I've played a little with kids born in '96 and '97.

I'm American not Australian. I know how we divide school. I also know that school is compulsory until you're 16 years old.


Then you get my drift, you have more in common with early 2000's babies than mid 1990's babies. That's nothing to be ashamed of...



It was the opposite for me. People bragged about how many friends they had outside the grade.  ;D

And in my neighbourhood, everyone was friends with everybody. People who were 4-5 years older than me taught me how to ride a bike and protected me from bullies.  :-X And when I was 10/11 I had a friend who was 5/6. We'd take him to the barber shop to spike his hair and dress him in chains and rings. Dezigner punk! ;D


Pretty much this. Obviously people feel at ease with people the same age as them, or around the same age. But there are certain times of life where you'll interact with those slightly older and slightly younger.

Then you get my drift, you have more in common with early 2000's babies than mid 1990's babies. That's nothing to be ashamed of...


Pretty much this. Obviously people feel at ease with people the same age as them, or around the same age. But there are certain times of life where you'll interact with those slightly older and slightly younger.

I have stuff in common with 2000 borns. Did you not read that I didn't grow up with kids born after 2000? It was uncool to do that and I didn't. I'm not saying that those born in 2001-2002 can't relate to me nor am I saying that I can 100% relate to those born in 1994-1996 (especially 1994-1995) but I have more in common with them than those born after 2000. I mean I've seen a few 1997 borns say they can't relate to us 1999 borns at all. I simply state that 2001 borns can relate to me but I feel more of a connection to those born 1995-1997 especially and....I'm being considered as not wanting to associate with them... :(.

I have stuff in common with 2000 borns. Did you not read that I didn't grow up with kids born after 2000? It was uncool to do that and I didn't. I'm not saying that those born in 2001-2002 can't relate to me nor am I saying that I can 100% relate to those born in 1994-1996 (especially 1994-1995) but I have more in common with them than those born after 2000. I mean I've seen a few 1997 borns say they can't relate to us 1999 borns at all. I simply state that 2001 borns can relate to me but I feel more of a connection to those born 1995-1997 especially and....I'm being considered as not wanting to associate with them... :(.


If you feel more connected to 1995-97' babies then thats fine. But the fact is you still grew up with Both Mid-Late 90's Babies AND Early 2000's babies. Thats all I'm saying. You could have a POST 2000 Hate Club for all I care, but that doesn't change the fact that their still part of your personal generation from a mathematical standpoint. I have more personal connections with those born in 94' (two years older) be it childhood friends, family members, etc. than I do with those born in 98' (two years younger) although I still have plenty of good friends. Despite my slight bias for those two years older, both 94' & 98' are part of my generation. Thats a FACT. I grew up with them, regardless of my personal bias between the two groups. This conversation is getting pretty pointless...

If you feel more connected to 1995-97' babies then thats fine. But the fact is you still grew up with Both Mid-Late 90's Babies AND Early 2000's babies. Thats all I'm saying. You could have a POST 2000 Hate Club for all I care, but that doesn't change the fact that their still part of your personal generation from a mathematical standpoint. I have more personal connections with those born in 94' (two years older) be it childhood friends, family members, etc. than I do with those born in 98' (two years younger) although I still have plenty of good friends. Despite my slight bias for those two years older, both 94' & 98' are part of my generation. Thats a FACT. I grew up with them, regardless of my personal bias between the two groups. This conversation is getting pretty pointless...

I didn't say I hate people born past the year 2000. I said that I can't connect with them like I can with '95-'97 borns. Also, I do accept that if you was born in 2001-2002 generally you were pretty similar to me. However, I can't say that I grew up with people born 2001-2002 because I didn't really know any before the fall of 2015. Me and my nephew (but I think of him as my cousin) both grew up together and he was born in 2000. I have another cousin born in '97 and we're close and her childhood was virtually the same as mine. I've spoken with '96 and '95 borns like you, Zelek3 and some of my other cousins, there's also a bunch of similarities. When I speak to the freshman (born in 2002) and sophomores (born in 2001) at my school (which is not often), there's a slight disconnect between us but I can't say that they are totally different from me. However, yes..this convo is pretty pointless.

If you feel more connected to 1995-97' babies then thats fine. But the fact is you still grew up with Both Mid-Late 90's Babies AND Early 2000's babies. Thats all I'm saying. You could have a POST 2000 Hate Club for all I care, but that doesn't change the fact that their still part of your personal generation from a mathematical standpoint. I have more personal connections with those born in 94' (two years older) be it childhood friends, family members, etc. than I do with those born in 98' (two years younger) although I still have plenty of good friends. Despite my slight bias for those two years older, both 94' & 98' are part of my generation. Thats a FACT. I grew up with them, regardless of my personal bias between the two groups. This conversation is getting pretty pointless...


As long as someone is a good or virtuous person, I'd easily relate to him/her. And I really despise it when people bash on another person just because he/she is just a few years younger than them. My "bus-mate" (friend from a school bus) was born in February 2001 and he seems like an intellectual person with common sense, definitely better than a lot of SJWs (please don't criticize me for saying SJW if you happen to be liberal) that were born in 1997.

Plus I think Buzzfeed starts Gen Z in 1996, not 1998 like what this post says, as I could remember.

As long as someone is a good or virtuous person, I'd easily relate to him/her. And I really despise it when people bash on another person just because he/she is just a few years younger than them.

Are you talking about me? I have NEVER bashed anyone, in fact I dislike when people bash people younger than them. Never once have I said nor do I believe that those born in 2001 or later are bad, they had a horrible childhood, they are spoiled brats that need spanking, etc. In fact, just a few years ago there was a lot of people born in 1990-1992 who would bash me and make fun of me saying "you're a dumb '00s kid", "you grew up with an iPhone", "you don't know anything about Dexter's Lab", "the 2000s sucked and was the worst decade to grow up in"...it really hurt and was sad  :\'(. You had a bunch of 19-23 year olds bashing a 12-14 year old (this happened in 2011-2013).

Are you talking about me? I have NEVER bashed anyone, in fact I dislike when people bash people younger than them. Never once have I said nor do I believe that those born in 2001 or later are bad, they had a horrible childhood, they are spoiled brats that need spanking, etc. In fact, just a few years ago there was a lot of people born in 1990-1992 who would bash me and make fun of me saying 'you're a dumb '00s kid", "you grew up with an iPhone", "you don't know anything about Dexter's Lab", "the 2000s sucked and was the worst decade to grow up in"...it really hurt and was sad  :\'(. You had a bunch of 19-23 year olds bashing a 12-14 year old (this happened in 2011-2013).


Same thing happened to me. I remembered when those born in 1990-1997 - yes, even a 97er could insult a 99er because of his childhood (not the ones on here) - bashed me because of my age and my childhood experiences. I apologize if you thought I was talking about you there; I didn't mean to.

Plus I think Buzzfeed starts Gen Z in 1996, not 1998 like what this post says, as I could remember.

Depends on who is writing the article. They have different authors writing different articles who get their generation definitions from different sources. This source, I believe, is Pew Research Center.

One article I remember says 1995-2009, another 1996 onward, and this one which is 1998-2010. They don't have a unified definition.

Depends on who is writing the article. They have different authors writing different articles who get their generation definitions from different sources. This source, I believe, is Pew Research Center.

One article I remember says 1995-2009, another 1996 onward, and this one which is 1998-2010. They don't have a unified definition.


Pew changed it to 1999 last year, who also changed it to 1998 two years ago, and 1997 three years ago. They're probably going to change it to 2000 this year.

Same thing happened to me. I remembered when those born in 1990-1997 - yes, even a 97er could insult a 99er because of his childhood (not the ones on here) - bashed me because of my age and my childhood experiences. I apologize if you thought I was talking about you there; I didn't mean to.

Yeah, I know. Why....why is that? Does being born in 1999 mean we suck or are demons or something? Why do we get so much hate? Is it because we were born just before the year 2000?  :-\\  :\'(.

My stepbrother was actually born in July 1990 (exactly 9 years before me)...I was born in July 1999. We obviously have lots of differences but we found that there are some similarities between us :P. He doesn't look down on those born 1993-1999.
That's good he's not following the crowd of what some others like his age range do. Too bad some folks don't acknowledge the differences and the similarities between pop culture experiences.


Pew changed it to 1999 last year, who also changed it to 1998 two years ago, and 1997 three years ago. They're probably going to change it to 2000 this year.
While they have great studies, generations isn't one of them. I have a feeling that Gen Y won't end at 2000 despite my opinion. It seems they want this generation to be so long when that shouldn't be the case.

But can 1995-2000 born ones remember people did not have internet or a simple mobile phone?


I don't think so.

Who's Katy Perry?  ???


HUH? You don't know who she is?  ??? :o

I don't think so.

We can't remember a time before the Internet but we can remember simple mobile phones.


HUH? You don't know who she is?  ??? :o

No, I've never heard of her in my life. I have just awoken from my great slumber that happened from 2008 until yesterday.... ;)

Yeah, I know. Why....why is that? Does being born in 1999 mean we suck or are demons or something? Why do we get so much hate? Is it because we were born just before the year 2000?  :-\\  :\'(.

No but seriously....someone please answer this question.

Yeah, I know. Why....why is that? Does being born in 1999 mean we suck or are demons or something? Why do we get so much hate? Is it because we were born just before the year 2000?  :-\\  :\'(.


I honestly don't know. People (including me) probably have prejudices on other generations that aren't related to them. I don't like being with younger kids simply because I view them as young people who watch godawful Minecraft videos.

I honestly don't know. People (including me) probably have prejudices on other generations that aren't related to them. I don't like being with younger kids simply because I view them as young people who watch godawful Minecraft videos.

Yeaah but you have that for people born 6 or more years after you. Some people born 1994-1997 feel like they are superior to us just because we were born in 1999.

Yeaah but you have that for people born 6 or more years after you. Some people born 1994-1997 feel like they are superior to us just because we were born in 1999.


I actually view that on people born after 2002. They could be either cringy kids who wanna be the next big YouTuber, or they can just spew out terrible sh*t on YouTube itself (e.g. terrible walkthroughs, terrible memes, etc).

I actually view that on people born after 2002. They could be either cringy kids who wanna be the next big YouTuber, or they can just spew out terrible sh*t on YouTube itself (e.g. terrible walkthroughs, terrible memes, etc).

Well, that's bad and you should stop doing that especially since you was born 12.22.99 (December 22, 1999)....just 10 days before January 1, 2000. It's horrible when '94ers, '95ers' '96ers and even '97ers do it us '99ers but it's worse if you do it to a person born in '02.

Well, that's bad and you should stop doing that especially since you was born 12.22.99 (December 22, 1999)....just 10 days before January 1, 2000. It's horrible when '94ers, '95ers' '96ers and even '97ers do it us '99ers but it's worse if you do it to a person born in '02.


I was actually born on December 21, 1999. You were a day behind. I also do it to people born in 2003 and after, not 2002. When I said that I don't like kids, I meant that for those who were born after 2002.

I was actually born on December 21, 1999. You were a day behind. I also do it to people born in 2003 and after, not 2002. When I said that I don't like kids, I meant that for those who were born after 2002.


Sounds like you're really generalizing people born post 2002.

Sounds like you're really generalizing people born post 2002.


Well... most likely.

To me now, Millenials are 1982 to 2000.  :-[

I was actually born on December 21, 1999. You were a day behind. I also do it to people born in 2003 and after, not 2002. When I said that I don't like kids, I meant that for those who were born after 2002.

It doesn't really matter. You was born just 11 days before Jan. 1, 2000. Stop being so prejudiced towards people born in 2003 and later.


Sounds like you're really generalizing people born post 2002.

He is and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't like if someone did it to him and us fellow '99ers.


Well... most likely.

Just stop it. Some kids can be annoying no matter if it's 2017, 2007, 1997, 1987, etc. Stop generalizing.


To me now, Millenials are 1982 to 2000.  :-[

1982-2000 is the most common definition of Millennials. However, for pretty much every generation there are a WHOLE bunch of alternate definitions based on person to person, company to company, etc.

It doesn't really matter. You was born just 11 days before Jan. 1, 2000. Stop being so prejudiced towards people born in 2003 and later.


Look, I just don't really talk to a lot of people born after 2002. They still seem like kids to me.

Look, I just don't really talk to a lot of people born after 2002. They still seem like kids to me.

People born 2002-2004 aren't kids...they are between the ages of 12-15. Also, would you like a person born in 1996 treating you different because "I just don't really talk to a lot of people born after 1998. They still seem like kids to me."  :-X

People born 2002-2004 aren't kids...they are between the ages of 12-15. Also, would you like a person born in 1996 treating you different because "I just don't really talk to a lot of people born after 1998. They still seem like kids to me."  :-X


Hmmm, 12 and 13 is still a kid to me. 14 is a young adult, at least in my eyes.

People born 2002-2004 aren't kids...they are between the ages of 12-15. Also, would you like a person born in 1996 treating you different because "I just don't really talk to a lot of people born after 1998. They still seem like kids to me."  :-X


I don't really talk to ageist people, especially those who fooled me on previous websites. Plus, mqg96 (who was born in early 1996) is one of my best friends on the Internet, and he doesn't think I'm a kid.

Hmmm, 12 and 13 is still a kid to me. 14 is a young adult, at least in my eyes.

2004 borns are turning 13 this year (some already have) and 13 is considered a teenager not a kid.


I don't really talk to ageist people, especially those who fooled me on previous websites. Plus, mqg96 (who was born in early 1996) is one of my best friends on the Internet, and he doesn't think I'm a kid.

Then, you're being very hypocritical. You're being ageist towards those born after 2002 but yet "I don't really talk to ageist people"...What?  ;D

Then, you're being very hypocritical. You're being ageist towards those born after 2002 but yet "I don't really talk to ageist people"...What?  ;D


I'm saying that I don't like people who speak against me because I was born in 1999. I know I may be hypocritical, but I just feel shy with younger people.

I'm saying that I don't like people who speak against me because I was born in 1999. I know I may be hypocritical, but I just feel shy with younger people.

LMAO exactly  ;D. "I'm saying that I don't like people who speak against me because I was born in 1999"....so why speak against people born in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, etc. I know it's definitely more than "I just feel shy with younger people" ::).

I never said that I couldn't relate to those born in 2001-2002 but 1994/1995-2000 is the group I relate to the most. Is there something wrong?  ???. Why are so many people on this thread smug about the fact that a person born in 1999 can relate to those born in the mid 1990s? Geez, you guys need to just relax. Elitism is just....8-P.


I have a maths tutor who was (I assume, considering he graduated in 2014) born in 1996. It definitely doesn't feel as though he is all that much older than me and there are very few (if any) noticeable differences between us. I'd say that people born in 1999 would naturally relate more to people born in the Mid 90s, because our childhoods were both Y-influenced and generally speaking, people tend to focus more on the differences between themselves and people younger than them. As for myself, I'd say that I would be able to relate with people born between 1995-2001 at the present time. Once people born in 2002 and 2003 grow up more, I will also probably be able to relate with them in several years time.


I forgot your from a different country, Australia right? The reason being here in the U.S we typically divide education like this:


Nope, you're thinking of me. :P


Seriously!? You never in your life played with kids 2-3 years younger than you in the playground? Btw did you play more often with Mid 90's babies than with early 2000's babies?


I know your question wasn't addressed to me, but I even played with Early 90s babies when I was growing up. My next-door neighbours had a teenage son, and he would have been about 7-8 years older than me. When I was 5-6, I remember we would sometimes ride our bikes in the cul-de-sac and we would occasionally have little competitions with each other, such as who could hold onto the handlebar with one hand (when riding) for the longest. There were twin boys (born around 1991-1992) who lived across the road from me. Before their family moved when I was 6, I used to go over to their house and we would play a few games on one of their consoles. Apart from two boys who were born in 1998, for the majority of my childhood, there was no one around my age who lived in my street, so I mostly played with the Early 90s born kids before they moved away.


Yeah, I know. Why....why is that? Does being born in 1999 mean we suck or are demons or something? Why do we get so much hate? Is it because we were born just before the year 2000?  :-\\  :\'(.


I'd say it's because a few years ago, there were a lot of immature people our age who kept on claiming that they are "90s kids", which of course, isn't true whatsoever. It doesn't happen so much now, but it was something that occurred quite often a few years back. For the record, I was never one of those people.  :)

I have a maths tutor who was (I assume, considering he graduated in 2014) born in 1996. It definitely doesn't feel as though he is all that much older than me and there are very few (if any) noticeable differences between us. I'd say that people born in 1999 would naturally relate more to people born in the Mid 90s, because our childhoods were both Y-influenced and generally speaking, people tend to focus more on the differences between themselves and people younger than them. As for myself, I'd say that I would be able to relate with people born between 1995-2001 at the present time. Once people born in 2002 and 2003 grow up more, I will also probably be able to relate with them in several years time.

I'd say it's because a few years ago, there were a lot of immature people our age who kept on claiming that they are "90s kids", which of course, isn't true whatsoever. It doesn't happen so much now, but it was something that occurred quite often a few years back. For the record, I was never one of those people.  :)

Yeah but that's still not a valid reason for a bunch of 19-23 years olds to cyber bully a 12-14 year old. Also, I was never that person who claimed to be a "90s kid"....yet I got cyber bullied by a lot of people born 1990-1992.

Yeah but that's still not a valid reason for a bunch of 19-23 years olds to cyber bully a 12-14 year old. Also, I was never that person who claimed to be a "90s kid"....yet I got cyber bullied by a lot of people born 1990-1992.

People are petty and cruel on the Internet in general, to be fair.

The Internet hates jews and black people for instance and i've noticed an uptick in this since Trump became popular. Groups like those get way more harsh treatment than 00s kids. 00s kids aren't told they should be locked in a gas chamber or put back in the cotton field "where they belong". Well, even if they are, the rate of hatred is definitely not as frequent.

I have a maths tutor who was (I assume, considering he graduated in 2014) born in 1996. It definitely doesn't feel as though he is all that much older than me and there are very few (if any) noticeable differences between us.

Does your tutor remember the 9/11 attacks, Pokemon when Misty was there, the popularity of JNCO jeans, dial-up Internet, Gundam Wing, Sailor Moon, the PS1, and other events and pop culture items typically associated with Millennials?

Yeah but that's still not a valid reason for a bunch of 19-23 years olds to cyber bully a 12-14 year old. Also, I was never that person who claimed to be a "90s kid"....yet I got cyber bullied by a lot of people born 1990-1992.


I'll be honest, I rarely get hate due to me being born in 1999, I'm curious on what sites you were  hanging out on the Internet during that time. ???


I have a maths tutor who was (I assume, considering he graduated in 2014) born in 1996. It definitely doesn't feel as though he is all that much older than me and there are very few (if any) noticeable differences between us. I'd say that people born in 1999 would naturally relate more to people born in the Mid 90s, because our childhoods were both Y-influenced and generally speaking, people tend to focus more on the differences between themselves and people younger than them. As for myself, I'd say that I would be able to relate with people born between 1995-2001 at the present time. Once people born in 2002 and 2003 grow up more, I will also probably be able to relate with them in several years time.

Nope, you're thinking of me. :P

I know your question wasn't addressed to me, but I even played with Early 90s babies when I was growing up. My next-door neighbours had a teenage son, and he would have been about 7-8 years older than me. When I was 5-6, I remember we would sometimes ride our bikes in the cul-de-sac and we would occasionally have little competitions with each other, such as who could hold onto the handlebar with one hand (when riding) for the longest. There were twin boys (born around 1991-1992) who lived across the road from me. Before their family moved when I was 6, I used to go over to their house and we would play a few games on one of their consoles. Apart from two boys who were born in 1998, for the majority of my childhood, there was no one around my age who lived in my street, so I mostly played with the Early 90s born kids before they moved away.

I'd say it's because a few years ago, there were a lot of immature people our age who kept on claiming that they are "90s kids", which of course, isn't true whatsoever. It doesn't happen so much now, but it was something that occurred quite often a few years back. For the record, I was never one of those people.  :)


Yeah, my former best friend (I have none besides Xbox ones now) was born in February 1994 and we related really well on 'most' things. I also think as younger people age, it will be easier to relate to them, but I can relate up to 2004 pretty well surprisingly.


People are petty and cruel on the Internet in general, to be fair.

The Internet hates jews and black people for instance and i've noticed an uptick in this since Trump became popular. Groups like those get way more harsh treatment than 00s kids. 00s kids aren't told they should be locked in a gas chamber or put back in the cotton field "where they belong". Well, even if they are, the rate of hatred is definitely not as frequent.


I've been told both of those things on Xbox Live by my friend, but it was a joke. He makes jokes like that with everyone, I tell him he should probably tone it down, because he might hurt or offend someone some day, but he doesn't seem to care. :(

I've been told both of those things on Xbox Live by my friend, but it was a joke. He makes jokes like that with everyone, I tell him he should probably tone it down, because he might hurt or offend someone some day, but he doesn't seem to care. :(

But not because you were born in 99 right?

But not because you were born in 99 right?


No, not at all. ;D Just decided I'd mention it since I've actually been told those things.

He was born in early 2001, he's 16. I've rarely had discrimination against me, because of my age (that I know of). :)

Does your tutor remember the 9/11 attacks, Pokemon when Misty was there, the popularity of JNCO jeans, dial-up Internet, Gundam Wing, Sailor Moon, the PS1, and other events and pop culture items typically associated with Millennials?


I'm honestly not too sure. I have never asked him.


I've rarely had discrimination against me, because of my age (that I know of). :)


You're lucky. I receive age discrimination from my friends quite often. :P

I'm honestly not too sure. I have never asked him.

You're lucky. I receive age discrimination from my friends quite often. :P


I guess it's because they're is such a large variety in terms of age for the people I talk to. Oldest is 30, youngest is 13. The 13 year old sometimes tries to mess with me saying it's weird that me, an 18 year old, is good friends with a 13 year old, but not too much things happen like that, and that doesn't bother me.

Sorry that it happens to you. :( What exactly do your friends say/do to discriminate against your age?

People are petty and cruel on the Internet in general, to be fair.

The Internet hates jews and black people for instance and i've noticed an uptick in this since Trump became popular. Groups like those get way more harsh treatment than 00s kids. 00s kids aren't told they should be locked in a gas chamber or put back in the cotton field "where they belong". Well, even if they are, the rate of hatred is definitely not as frequent.

I know that it's not as bad as other forms of cyber hate or bullying but it was still hurtful and disheartening. It's like as if being born in 1999 was a curse or something. Sorry if I got too emotional because I don't usually write out my feelings like this.

Sorry that it happens to you. :( What exactly do your friends say/do to discriminate against your age?


I appreciate your concern, but it's nothing too bad. My friends sometimes joke that i'm "old", because i'm several months older than them and they're still under the legal age. :P

I appreciate your concern, but it's nothing too bad. My friends sometimes joke that i'm "old", because i'm several months older than them and they're still under the legal age. :P


Oh, okay, good to know it's nothing too bad. :)

Ahh, yeah, I get called older by some of the younger guys in my friend group as well, haha, but our 30 year old friend gets most of those types of jokes. ;D

We can't remember a time before the Internet but we can remember simple mobile phones.
No, I've never heard of her in my life. I have just awoken from my great slumber that happened from 2008 until yesterday.... ;)


Because that's all you can remember.

Yeaah but you have that for people born 6 or more years after you. Some people born 1994-1997 feel like they are superior to us just because we were born in 1999.


I don't really see it as much with those born in 1994, possibly even some '95s. I however do see it occasionally with 1996 and especially 1997 borns (yet again, not the ones on this forum). The worst offenders seem to be those born in 1997.

I remember when there was a 1997er on YouTube three or four years ago who attacked and even threatened people who were born after December 31, 1998. I also could recall trying to rationalize with this guy, but the only thing he did was escalate the already nasty situation.

There was also this time when this other 1997er would criticize 1999ers for basically any reason he could find why people born in 1998 have more in common with early 90's babies than people born in 1999 in comparison.

Not to mention, a female 1997er states that 1990-1998 is her 'generation of people', and she tries her best to cut off all of her ties with anyone born 1999 onwards and even to the point where she groups them with people who aren't even at school yet.

There was also this time when this other 1997er would criticize 1999ers for basically any reason he could find why people born in 1998 have more in common with early 90's babies than people born in 1999 in comparison.

Not to mention, a female 1997er states that 1990-1998 is her 'generation of people', and she tries her best to cut off all of her ties with anyone born 1999 onwards and even to the point where she groups them with people who aren't even at school yet.


I cant stand ageism for the life of me...

I will admit in H.S, I was one of those, "My Class was the last good class!" kind of people. However, it seems like its gotten to the point where because I'm not in H.S anymore its hard for me take anybody who says crap like that seriously anymore.

Also the part in bold is a comment I've seen before on YouTube and I agree its illogical. Your meaning to tell me with a straight face that you actually have more in common with someone 7 years older than you, then someone who is just a measly couple of years younger than you!?

I don't really see it as much with those born in 1994, possibly even some '95s. I however do see it occasionally with 1996 and especially 1997 borns (yet again, not the ones on this forum). The worst offenders seem to be those born in 1997.

I remember when there was a 1997er on YouTube three or four years ago who attacked and even threatened people who were born after December 31, 1998. I also could recall trying to rationalize with this guy, but the only thing he did was escalate the already nasty situation.

There was also this time when this other 1997er would criticize 1999ers for basically any reason he could find why people born in 1998 have more in common with early 90's babies than people born in 1999 in comparison.

Not to mention, a female 1997er states that 1990-1998 is her 'generation of people', and she tries her best to cut off all of her ties with anyone born 1999 onwards and even to the point where she groups them with people who aren't even at school yet.




I cant stand ageism for the life of me...

I will admit in H.S, I was one of those, "My Class was the last good class!" kind of people. However, it seems like its gotten to the point where because I'm not in H.S anymore its hard for me take anybody who says crap like that seriously anymore.

Also the part in bold is a comment I've seen before on YouTube and I agree its illogical. Your meaning to tell me with a straight face that you actually have more in common with someone 7 years older than you, then someone who is just a measly couple of years younger than you!?

Both of you are on point. A lot of 1997 borns seem to think that because they are 2 years older than us "they are more '90s", "LOL, you were just born in the last year of the 1990s". I get that a few '99ers will claim to be a '90s kid and that obviously isn't true but a '97er is most certainly not a '90s kid either.

Both of you are on point. A lot of 1997 borns seem to think that because they are 2 years older than us "they are more '90s", "LOL, you were just born in the last year of the 1990s". I get that a few '99ers will claim to be a '90s kid and that obviously isn't true but a '97er is most certainly not a '90s kid either.


I could just imagine how idiotic a lot of things are on YouTube comments (where most of this internet drama takes place). The next thing I'd expect to see there is an early 1999 born bashing a late 1999 born because of the Columbine shooting and how they (extremely vaguely) remember 9/11. I mean who knows, this stuff may have already happened there.

I could just imagine how idiotic a lot of things are on YouTube comments (where most of this internet drama takes place). The next thing I'd expect to see there is an early 1999 born bashing a late 1999 born because of the Columbine shooting and how they (extremely vaguely) remember 9/11. I mean who knows, this stuff may have already happened there.

Personally, I haven't seen any earlier 1999 born people do that but it could happen. I was born in mid 1999....so yeah, lol. However, I have seen some 1999 borns say that they vaguely remember 9/11 but yet they were born in September or October. However, I have seen one early 1999 born say he vaguely remembers 9/11 (born in March) and another who says he doesn't vaguely remember 9/11 (born in January)  :P.

1. We didn't grow up with smartphones. Getting a smartphone at the age of 12-14 (2011-2013) or even later when your core childhood (ages 5-10) was long over is not the same as a kid born in 2008 having a smartphone in his or her hand everyday at the age of 4 (in 2012)


You know, I agree with you on this point. Since smartphones didn't really start becoming affordable until maybe 2011 or 2012, I wouldn't say that the average 1999er "grew up" with them.

By comparison, I used the internet for the first time in 1998 as an 11-year-old, and got it at my house for the first time in March 2000, a few months shy of my 13th birthday, and I do not consider myself having "grown up" with the internet because I went almost my entire childhood without internet access and had to adapt to using it largely as a teenager. It would've been very similar with late '90s babies and smartphones, whereas a kid born even as early as 2005 would've been using them since they were about 6.

You know, I agree with you on this point. Since smartphones didn't really start becoming affordable until maybe 2011 or 2012, I wouldn't say that the average 1999er "grew up" with them.

By comparison, I used the internet for the first time in 1998 as an 11-year-old, and got it at my house for the first time in March 2000, a few months shy of my 13th birthday, and I do not consider myself having "grown up" with the internet because I went almost my entire childhood without internet access and had to adapt to using it largely as a teenager. It would've been very similar with late '90s babies and smartphones, whereas a kid born even as early as 2005 would've been using them since they were about 6.

Yeah that was my point. Everyone of my classmates (most born in 1999, a few born in 1998) remember a time before smartphones. I have yet to meet a person in 1999 that doesn't remember life before smartphones.

I was born in 1996, and I definitely do not feel like I am a millennial. Probably because my formative events would line up more with the early to mid 2010s such as the Ukraine situation, Syria, ISIS, Brexit, Trump, social media whereas a "typical" millennial would probably have theirs as dot-com, 9/11, Iraq, and to a certain extent the financial crisis.

That's just me though, I accept I am born on the edge. 8)

I'm a hell of a rarity. Product of a Great Generationer (dad 1927) and a Baby Boomer (mom 1950) and I did not realize I was a Millenial (1986) and I was depressed for about a day after I saw that because I don't really identify with my generation at all. If anything, my sensibilities are more of a combination of my parents'  instead of being influenced by what folks in my bracket was. (although I am way more tolerant and accepting of "alternate" types of people than they ever were)
But I like how I am and who I am and in some contexts, I'm still behind the times, but I don't really care.

Today - April 4th, 2017, BuzzFeed uploaded a video defining the generations.

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The most interesting thing is that BuzzFeed defines Generation Y (aka Millennials) as being born from 1981-1997 and Generation Z as being born from 1998-2010.

My opinion
1. Being born in 1999, I am very frustrated with being grouped with people born in 2002 and later.
2. By grouping me with those born from 2002-2010, they include me as growing up with smartphones, social media, etc... >:(
3. 1997 is an unusual and weird end to Gen Y.
4. 1998 is an unusual and weird start to Gen Z.
5. This video leaves even more people confused on the whole generation issue (as I've seen in the comments).

Despite the weird dates it's a fantastic and compelling video, it's much better than the other crap Buzzfeed produces.

Despite the weird dates it's a fantastic and compelling video, it's much better than the other crap Buzzfeed produces.

Yes, I would agree with that statement.

Reign Man, Tyrannosaurus, and 1999 Baby 2000s Kid, I'm sorry to say this but I agree with machine here. If you weren't at least 5 by 2003, I don't really think of you completely as Millennials, imho. You're more like Millennial cusps.

2003 was really the last "pure" year of Gen Y kids' culture, with 2004-2006 being the weird Y/Z cuspy years. 2007 I'd argue was the real, noticeable start of Gen Z kids culture with the release of the iPhone; the Xbox 360 and Wii now having fully overtaken the 6th generation of consoles with plentiful games like Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy; Cartoon Network discontinuing Fridays and the good version of Toonami and betraying their name by producing live-action shows; almost no Saturday morning cartoons left after Kids WB and ABC Kids committed suicide in late 2006; Y or Y/Z cusp shows like That's So Raven, Kim Possible, Ned's Declassified, Billy and Mandy, Ed Edd n Eddy, and Danny Phantom ending and being fully overtaken by Gen Z-targeted shows like Hannah Montana, Out of Jimmy's Head, the Naked Brothers Band, Chowder, and iCarly; etc.

Reign Man, Tyrannosaurus, and 1999 Baby 2000s Kid, I'm sorry to say this but I agree with machine here. If you weren't at least 5 by 2003, I don't really think of you completely as Millennials, imho. You're more like Millennial cusps.

2003 was really the last "pure" year of Gen Y kids' culture, with 2004-2006 being the weird Y/Z cuspy years. 2007 I'd argue was the real, noticeable start of Gen Z kids culture with the release of the iPhone; the Xbox 360 and Wii now having fully overtaken the 6th generation of consoles with plentiful games like Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy; Cartoon Network discontinuing Fridays and the good version of Toonami and betraying their name by producing live-action shows; almost no Saturday morning cartoons left after Kids WB and ABC Kids committed suicide in late 2006; Y or Y/Z cusp shows like That's So Raven, Kim Possible, Ned's Declassified, Billy and Mandy, Ed Edd n Eddy, and Danny Phantom ending and being fully overtaken by Gen Z-targeted shows like Hannah Montana, Out of Jimmy's Head, the Naked Brothers Band, Chowder, and iCarly; etc.

What?  ???

Reign Man, Tyrannosaurus, and 1999 Baby 2000s Kid, I'm sorry to say this but I agree with machine here. If you weren't at least 5 by 2003, I don't really think of you completely as Millennials, imho. You're more like Millennial cusps.

2003 was really the last "pure" year of Gen Y kids' culture, with 2004-2006 being the weird Y/Z cuspy years. 2007 I'd argue was the real, noticeable start of Gen Z kids culture with the release of the iPhone; the Xbox 360 and Wii now having fully overtaken the 6th generation of consoles with plentiful games like Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy; Cartoon Network discontinuing Fridays and the good version of Toonami and betraying their name by producing live-action shows; almost no Saturday morning cartoons left after Kids WB and ABC Kids committed suicide in late 2006; Y or Y/Z cusp shows like That's So Raven, Kim Possible, Ned's Declassified, Billy and Mandy, Ed Edd n Eddy, and Danny Phantom ending and being fully overtaken by Gen Z-targeted shows like Hannah Montana, Out of Jimmy's Head, the Naked Brothers Band, Chowder, and iCarly; etc.


Okay, a few things.

1. Didn't Chowder and iCarly have a cult following with preteens and teenagers (mostly girls), who were Gen Y kids during the late 2000s?
2. I don't really think a lot of people cared for Saturday morning cartoons that much since the late 90s, when Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network proven themselves to air kids-oriented shows 24/7.
3. Ed Edd n Eddy didn't really end until 2009, unlike the other shows you mentioned.

Okay, a few things.

1. Didn't Chowder and iCarly have a cult following with preteens and teenagers (mostly girls), who were Gen Y kids during the late 2000s?
2. I don't really think a lot of people cared for Saturday morning cartoons that much since the late 90s, when Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network proven themselves to air kids-oriented shows 24/7.
3. Ed Edd n Eddy didn't really end until 2009, unlike the other shows you mentioned.

I'm not sure but I think Zelek is joking (I could be wrong though).

One little that I have to say is that while Saturday morning cartoons decline in the 2000s (and died in 2008)....most kids during the 2000s still watched Saturday morning cartoons...I sure did.

Reign Man, Tyrannosaurus, and 1999 Baby 2000s Kid, I'm sorry to say this but I agree with machine here. If you weren't at least 5 by 2003, I don't really think of you completely as Millennials, imho. You're more like Millennial cusps.

2003 was really the last "pure" year of Gen Y kids' culture, with 2004-2006 being the weird Y/Z cuspy years. 2007 I'd argue was the real, noticeable start of Gen Z kids culture with the release of the iPhone; the Xbox 360 and Wii now having fully overtaken the 6th generation of consoles with plentiful games like Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy; Cartoon Network discontinuing Fridays and the good version of Toonami and betraying their name by producing live-action shows; almost no Saturday morning cartoons left after Kids WB and ABC Kids committed suicide in late 2006; Y or Y/Z cusp shows like That's So Raven, Kim Possible, Ned's Declassified, Billy and Mandy, Ed Edd n Eddy, and Danny Phantom ending and being fully overtaken by Gen Z-targeted shows like Hannah Montana, Out of Jimmy's Head, the Naked Brothers Band, Chowder, and iCarly; etc.


2007, I'd actually slightly disagree with you there. Most of 2007 as I could remember still felt cuspy. Late 2007 (September probably) I do agree is where it started to become more Z oriented. And by circa 2009, Millennial cultural influence for kids was completely gone.

School years of the noughties

1999-2000 year: Y
2000-2001 year: Y
2001-2002 year: Y
2002-2003 year: Y
2003-2004 year: Y/Z
2004-2005 year: Y/Z
2005-2006 year: Y/Z
2006-2007 year: Y/Z
2007-2008 year: Z
2008-2009 year: Z
2009-2010 year: Z

2007, I'd actually slightly disagree with you there. Most of 2007 as I could remember still felt cuspy. Late 2007 (September probably) I do agree is where it started to become more Z oriented. And by circa 2009, Millennial cultural influence for kids was completely gone.

School years of the noughties

1999-2000 year: Y
2000-2001 year: Y
2001-2002 year: Y
2002-2003 year: Y
2003-2004 year: Y/Z
2004-2005 year: Y/Z
2005-2006 year: Y/Z
2006-2007 year: Y/Z
2007-2008 year: Z
2008-2009 year: Z
2009-2010 year: Z

Does it really matter?

Does it really matter?


I believe it does. I don't really think the entire year of 2007 felt like a complete Z year. It was mostly Z, but it wasn't completely Z by late 2007. Which makes sense because that's when everyone in first-world countries has heard of YouTube, including me.

I believe it does. I don't really think the entire year of 2007 felt like a complete Z year. It was mostly Z, but it wasn't completely Z by late 2007. Which makes sense because that's when everyone in first-world countries has heard of YouTube, including me.

No, I mean this conversation about Gen Y kids culture vs Gen Z kids culture and "When it started?". Does it really matter? No.

No, I mean this conversation about Gen Y kids culture vs Gen Z kids culture and "When it started?". Does it really matter? No.


Oh.

TBH, you're kinda right. I honestly don't give a crap about being a Y/Z cusp, since I only consider myself as a 2000s kid. Especially when most Z kids are mid-late 2000s babies.

Does it really matter?

It's an awful lot of fun.

Oh.

TBH, you're kinda right. I honestly don't give a crap about being a Y/Z cusp, since I only consider myself as a 2000s kid. Especially when most Z kids are mid-late 2000s babies.

Yeah. I'm a 2000s kids and I personally identify as Gen Y more than Gen Z but I also except that I can be classified as a "Gen Y/Z cusp".

It's an awful lot of fun.

"Fun"....do you know what that means? ::)

Yes, I would agree with that statement.



some of the videos Buzzfeed puts out are kind of silly.

Reign Man, Tyrannosaurus, and 1999 Baby 2000s Kid, I'm sorry to say this but I agree with machine here. If you weren't at least 5 by 2003, I don't really think of you completely as Millennials, imho. You're more like Millennial cusps.


Obviously i'm bias here, but I think age 4 is when people start to become more aware of the popular culture around them and start to engage in kids culture, not just things targeted at a pre-school audience. I can't speak for Reign Man, T-Rex, 99'er Baby or NewYorkRaven, but I personally started to engage more with popular culture when I was 4 years old. I received a PS2 and Gameboy Advance SP for Christmas that year and I can also remember when songs such as "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Numb" by Linkin Park were brand new. Not only that, but 2003 is also the first year I can remember things really vividly.

I don't think it's out of the equation for people born in 1999 to have engaged in Millennial kids culture in the Early 2000s, particularly in 2003. Especially for myself having being born in March. I really don't think someone three months older than me, someone born in December 1998, had a drastically different experience of Millennial culture in the Early 2000s compared to what I experienced.

Obviously i'm bias here, but I think age 4 is when people start to become more aware of the popular culture around them and start to engage in kids culture, not just things targeted at a pre-school audience. I can't speak for Reign Man, T-Rex, 99'er Baby or NewYorkRaven, but I personally started to engage more with popular culture when I was 4 years old. I received a PS2 and Gameboy Advance SP for Christmas that year and I can also remember when songs such as "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Numb" by Linkin Park were brand new. Not only that, but 2003 is also the first year I can remember things really vividly.

I don't think it's out of the equation for people born in 1999 to have engaged in Millennial kids culture in the Early 2000s, particularly in 2003. Especially for myself having being born in March. I really don't think someone three months older than me, someone born in December 1998, had a drastically different experience of Millennial culture in the Early 2000s compared to what I experienced.

I agree bro. I don't really care at the end of the day but I've been involved with pop culture since I was 3 in 2002. 2002 was the first year for me with good memory and I remember a lot of things about 2002 (music, TV shows, cartoons, movies, etc).

People born in 2000 are Millennials because they were born in the old Millennium. 2001 marks the new Millennium so anyone born on January 1st 2001 and later would not be a pure Millennial. 2001-2006 would be Millennial/Z cuspers.

People born in 2000 are Millennials because they were born in the old Millennium. 2001 marks the new Millennium so anyone born on January 1st 2001 and later would not be a pure Millennial. 2001-2006 would be Millennial/Z cuspers.
There's no way they can be true Millennials. Yeah, they born in the old Millennium; however, they don't remember that time period. As for Millennial/Z cuspers, they would be pat of it along with the 1999-99 folks.

There's no way they can be true Millennials. Yeah, they born in the old Millennium; however, they don't remember that time period. As for Millennial/Z cuspers, they would be pat of it along with the 1999-99 folks.

1999-99 folks? ???

1999-99 folks? ???
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

My bad. It should have said 1995-99/00 folks.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

My bad. It should have said 1995-99/00 folks.

;D OK, I gotcha.

I don't really see it as much with those born in 1994, possibly even some '95s.

Oh really? What about this meme that keeps popping up on my social media timeline? ;D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6MwbyfVMAA1161.jpg

Oh really? What about this meme that keeps popping up on my social media timeline? ;D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6MwbyfVMAA1161.jpg


What I meant was only on 1999 born people (not 1995-1998 born people).

But was that picture made by someone born in 1994?

What I meant was only on 1999 born people (not 1995-1998 born people).

But was that picture made by someone born in 1994?

Probably. ;D

Probably. ;D

Yes, that's the funny thing.

Pardon the slight bump. But I've always been a staunch supporter of the "1982, not 1980 or 1981" start for Millennials. 1982 is the class of 2000, they're the reason Strauss and Howe named them Millennials in the first place. 1980-81 feels too early. Plus according to S&H's research and surveys on that class, they represented a notable attitude shift from the previous classes, being less "rough and tough" and having more of a can-do attitude.

Flares up my aspergers when I see all these articles saying 1980 or 1981 are Millennials.

What do you think, ReignMan?

Pardon the slight bump. But I've always been a staunch supporter of the "1982, not 1980 or 1981" start for Millennials. 1982 is the class of 2000, they're the reason Strauss and Howe named them Millennials in the first place. 1980-81 feels too early. Plus according to S&H's research and surveys on that class, they represented a notable attitude shift from the previous classes, being less "rough and tough" and having more of a can-do attitude.

Flares up my aspergers when I see all these articles saying 1980 or 1981 are Millennials.


It's not only because of them graduating in 2000. It is also because they believe that they can't remember the Challenger Explosion.

Which is why in my book, Millennials are 1982-1996 (unlikely to remember Challenger Explosion but likely to remember 9/11).

Pardon the slight bump. But I've always been a staunch supporter of the "1982, not 1980 or 1981" start for Millennials. 1982 is the class of 2000, they're the reason Strauss and Howe named them Millennials in the first place. 1980-81 feels too early. Plus according to S&H's research and surveys on that class, they represented a notable attitude shift from the previous classes, being less "rough and tough" and having more of a can-do attitude.

Flares up my aspergers when I see all these articles saying 1980 or 1981 are Millennials.

I actually agree with you :D.


It's not only because of them graduating in 2000. It is also because they believe that they can't remember the Challenger Explosion.

Which is why in my book, Millennials are 1982-1996.

You have a book? ;)

I actually agree with you :D.
You have a book? ;)


Nah, what I mean is in my opinion. :)

I promised I would get away from generationology, but I can't, it's like a drug.

I'll keep posting in this thread as long as people don't insult each other or argue too viciously about their formative experiences being better. That's happened with many a thread.

Nah, what I mean is in my opinion. :)

I know I was being silly. In my book, Millennials were born 1982-2000.

I promised I would get away from generationology, but I can't, it's like a drug.

I'll keep posting in this thread as long as people don't insult each other or argue too viciously about their formative experiences being better. That's happened with many a thread.

LOL, I agree with you.

2007, I'd actually slightly disagree with you there. Most of 2007 as I could remember still felt cuspy. Late 2007 (September probably) I do agree is where it started to become more Z oriented. And by circa 2009, Millennial cultural influence for kids was completely gone.

School years of the noughties

1999-2000 year: Y
2000-2001 year: Y
2001-2002 year: Y
2002-2003 year: Y
2003-2004 year: Y/Z
2004-2005 year: Y/Z
2005-2006 year: Y/Z
2006-2007 year: Y/Z
2007-2008 year: Z
2008-2009 year: Z
2009-2010 year: Z



Disagree with that one... :(

Reign Man, Tyrannosaurus, and 1999 Baby 2000s Kid, I'm sorry to say this but I agree with machine here. If you weren't at least 5 by 2003, I don't really think of you completely as Millennials, imho. You're more like Millennial cusps.

2003 was really the last "pure" year of Gen Y kids' culture, with 2004-2006 being the weird Y/Z cuspy years. 2007 I'd argue was the real, noticeable start of Gen Z kids culture with the release of the iPhone; the Xbox 360 and Wii now having fully overtaken the 6th generation of consoles with plentiful games like Halo 3 and Super Mario Galaxy; Cartoon Network discontinuing Fridays and the good version of Toonami and betraying their name by producing live-action shows; almost no Saturday morning cartoons left after Kids WB and ABC Kids committed suicide in late 2006; Y or Y/Z cusp shows like That's So Raven, Kim Possible, Ned's Declassified, Billy and Mandy, Ed Edd n Eddy, and Danny Phantom ending and being fully overtaken by Gen Z-targeted shows like Hannah Montana, Out of Jimmy's Head, the Naked Brothers Band, Chowder, and iCarly; etc.

Having experienced this first hand, I completely agree with all of this Zelek. :)

2007, I'd actually slightly disagree with you there. Most of 2007 as I could remember still felt cuspy. Late 2007 (September probably) I do agree is where it started to become more Z oriented. And by circa 2009, Millennial cultural influence for kids was completely gone.

School years of the noughties

1999-2000 year: Y
2000-2001 year: Y
2001-2002 year: Y
2002-2003 year: Y
2003-2004 year: Y/Z
2004-2005 year: Y/Z
2005-2006 year: Y/Z
2006-2007 year: Y/Z
2007-2008 year: Z
2008-2009 year: Z
2009-2010 year: Z


Since I know this is pertaining to elementary school, how would you define the '00s school years in terms of high school? As somebody in high school from 2001-2005, I would put it something like this.

1999-00 year: Early Y
2000-01 year: Early Y
2001-02 year: Early Y
2002-03 year: Early Y
2003-04 year: Peak Y
2004-05 year: Peak Y
2005-06 year: Peak Y
2006-07 year: Peak Y
2007-08 year: Peak Y
2008-09 year: Late Y
2009-10 year: Late Y

Since I know this is pertaining to elementary school, how would you define the '00s school years in terms of high school? As somebody in high school from 2001-2005, I would put it something like this.

1999-00 year: Early Y
2000-01 year: Early Y
2001-02 year: Early Y
2002-03 year: Early Y
2003-04 year: Peak Y
2004-05 year: Peak Y
2005-06 year: Peak Y
2006-07 year: Peak Y
2007-08 year: Peak Y
2008-09 year: Late Y
2009-10 year: Late Y

Hey yo Machine, I plan on making a 00s teen thread today. :)
It'll be similar to Arctic fox's 70s, 80s, 90s, and 10s teen threads. Make sure you and fellow 00s teens check it out! ;)  I'll also be might be making a cultural debate vid.

Hey yo Machine, I plan on making a 00s teen thread today. :)
It'll be similar to Arctic fox's 70s, 80s, 90s, and 10s teen threads. Make sure you and fellow 00s teens check it out! ;)  I'll also be might be making a cultural debate vid.


I'll be sure to comment. It's about time us '00s teens started getting some respect around here! 8)

I'll be sure to comment. It's about time us '00s teens started getting some respect around here! 8)

Does being 10 in 2009 count? :(

Does being 10 in 2009 count? :(

Naw bruh bruh, you mainly a mid 10s teen. ;D

Naw bruh bruh, you mainly a mid 10s teen. ;D

But you was a teen from 2008-2014 :(. I'm a teen from 2012-2018...so some overlap ::).

But you was a teen from 2008-2014 :( . I'm a teen from 2012-2018...so some overlap ::) .

Yea.. ::)  but I was mainly early 10s. I have some late 00s teen influence and a little bit of mid. But My peak was 2010-2013.
Yours is 2014-2017. But yeah you're in an awkward position. Since you have early 10s and late 10s teen influence. ;D

Yea.. ::)  but I was mainly early 10s. I have some late 00s teen influence and a little bit of mid. But My peak was 2010-2013.
Yours is 2014-2017. But yeah you're in an awkward position. Since you have early 10s and late 10s teen influence. ;D

Alright, alright ::)...fair enough.

Does being 10 in 2009 count? :(


That kinda makes you a preteen, but I don't think it's anywhere similar compared to being 13-19 in 2009.

That kinda makes you a preteen, but I don't think it's anywhere similar compared to being 13-19 in 2009.

Naw, he was still in the peak of his childhood. 2010 was his true preteen/tween status.

Hey yo Machine, I plan on making a 00s teen thread today. :)
It'll be similar to Arctic fox's 70s, 80s, 90s, and 10s teen threads. Make sure you and fellow 00s teens check it out! ;)  I'll also be might be making a cultural debate vid.


Finally. ArcticFox didn't make it because he thought it wasn't worth his time. I disagree with that, but to each his own.

Naw, he was still in the peak of his childhood. 2010 was his true preteen/tween status.


10/11 is still the same to me though. Although that might have to deal with my personal experiences.

That kinda makes you a preteen, but I don't think it's anywhere similar compared to being 13-19 in 2009.


Naw, he was still in the peak of his childhood. 2010 was his true preteen/tween status.

LMAO, y'all taking me too serious ;D.


10/11 is still the same to me though. Although that might have to deal with my personal experiences.

I felt the same in 2010 as I did in 2009.

Finally. ArcticFox didn't make it because he thought it wasn't worth his time. I disagree with that, but to each his own.

Naw he just doesn't care about the 00s mainstream culture! ;D ;D ;D

LMAO, y'all taking me too serious ;D.
I felt the same in 2010 as I did in 2009.

10/11 is still the same to me though. Although that might have to deal with my personal experiences.

Well I guss 10 1/2. Cause in 2005 I felt MUCH different than I did in 2006.

Well I guss 10 1/2. Cause in 2005 I felt MUCH different than I did in 2006.

2009 and 2010 were 99.5% the same. The only difference between 2009 and 2010 to me was that I graduated from elementary school in June 2010 and I consider the Summer of 2010...the "Last Summer of my Childhood".

Having watched that video, something that makes me cringe about the comments, is that all these 13 year olds seem to think playing outside as a kid is a "Millennial" thing, and that they're Millennials because they played outside as kids? ???

Like, no, it's not lol. Playing outside is something kids have done since the beginning of time and it's something they STILL do, despite what Facebook "90z keed" chain letters may claim otherwise.

Having watched that video, something that makes me cringe about the comments, is that all these 13 year olds seem to think playing outside as a kid is a "Millennial" thing, and that they're Millennials because they played outside as kids? ???

Like, no, it's not lol. Playing outside is something kids have done since the beginning of time and it's something they STILL do, despite what Facebook "90z keed" chain letters may claim otherwise.

I agree, it's stupid when people say that.

Having watched that video, something that makes me cringe about the comments, is that all these 13 year olds seem to think playing outside as a kid is a "Millennial" thing, and that they're Millennials because they played outside as kids? ???

Like, no, it's not lol. Playing outside is something kids have done since the beginning of time and it's something they STILL do, despite what Facebook "90z keed" chain letters may claim otherwise.


There weren't any 13-year-olds complaining about "kids these days" not playing outside were there? Because that could get a little awkward. It's like, weren't you still in elementary school, like, two years ago? ???

There weren't any 13-year-olds complaining about "kids these days" not playing outside were there? Because that could get a little awkward. It's like, weren't you still in elementary school, like, two years ago? ???

Actually yes, they were there. ;D

YouTube comments are full of 13 year olds who act like they're ancient and "so mature for my age". It's cringeworthy, but then again, we all were when we were 13.

Actually yes, they were there. ;D

YouTube comments are full of 13 year olds who act like they're ancient and "so mature for my age". It's cringeworthy, but then again, we all were when we were 13.

I just saw a comment by a 13 year old saying that he's "so old" and "old school" because he knows theme songs to TV shows from the 1990s and 2000s ::).

Since I know this is pertaining to elementary school, how would you define the '00s school years in terms of high school? As somebody in high school from 2001-2005, I would put it something like this.

1999-00 year: Early Y
2000-01 year: Early Y
2001-02 year: Early Y
2002-03 year: Early Y
2003-04 year: Peak Y
2004-05 year: Peak Y
2005-06 year: Peak Y
2006-07 year: Peak Y
2007-08 year: Peak Y
2008-09 year: Late Y
2009-10 year: Late Y


I agree with this one. Would you also agree with my school year charts from the 1990's?

1989-1990: Core X culture
1990-1991: Core X culture
1991-1992: Later X culture
1992-1993: Later X culture
1993-1994: Later X culture
1994-1995: Mostly later X culture
1995-1996: Slightly leaning towards later X culture
1996-1997: Perfectly X/Y
1997-1998: Slightly leaning towards earlier Y culture
1998-1999: Mostly earlier Y culture
1999-2000: Earlier Y culture

Actually yes, they were there. ;D

YouTube comments are full of 13 year olds who act like they're ancient and "so mature for my age". It's cringeworthy, but then again, we all were when we were 13.


I didn't really care about YouTube comments back then, but sometimes I commented on people's videos during the late 2000s on all caps.  ;D

Actually yes, they were there. ;D

YouTube comments are full of 13 year olds who act like they're ancient and "so mature for my age". It's cringeworthy, but then again, we all were when we were 13.


Luckily YouTube and Facebook did not exist when I was 13, so whatever I said online back then was not saved for posterity. I must admit, though, that there are some early forum posts I made back then that I'm not proud of. :-
I just saw a comment by a 13 year old saying that he's "so old" and "old school" because he knows theme songs to TV shows from the 1990s and 2000s ::).


Interesting logic. I used to watch I Love Lucy and Father Knows Best on Nick at Nite back in the '90s, so I guess that makes me a spiritual Baby Boomer! 8)

Interesting logic. I used to watch I Love Lucy and Father Knows Best on Nick at Nite back in the '90s, so I guess that makes me a spiritual Baby Boomer! 8)

Me too, I also saw The Andy Griffith Show and Matlock when I was younger....I'm obviously a spiritual Baby Boomer 8).

Me too, I also saw The Andy Griffith Show and Matlock when I was younger....I'm obviously a spiritual Baby Boomer 8).


I'm a spiritual Baby Boomer for sure.

Bewitched
Leave it to Beaver
The Andy Griffith Show
The Munsters
McHale's Navy
Burns and Allen Show
Mr. Ed
Father Knows Best
The Patty Duke Show
The Three Stooges (makes me more of a spiritual Silent though)
The Twilight Zone
I Love Lucy
The Beverly Hillbillies

You can thank my parents for the fact that I inherited their Boomer genes.

I'm a spiritual Baby Boomer for sure.

Bewitched
Leave it to Beaver
The Andy Griffith Show
The Munsters
McHale's Navy
Burns and Allen Show
Mr. Ed
Father Knows Best
The Patty Duke Show
The Three Stooges (makes me more of a spiritual Silent though)
The Twilight Zone
I Love Lucy
The Beverly Hillbillies

You can thank my parents for the fact that I inherited their Boomer genes.

I only watched the shows in bold when I was younger.

I agree with this one. Would you also agree with my school year charts from the 1990's?

1989-1990: Core X culture
1990-1991: Core X culture
1991-1992: Later X culture
1992-1993: Later X culture
1993-1994: Later X culture
1994-1995: Mostly later X culture
1995-1996: Slightly leaning towards later X culture
1996-1997: Perfectly X/Y
1997-1998: Slightly leaning towards earlier Y culture
1998-1999: Mostly earlier Y culture
1999-2000: Earlier Y culture


Yeah, I think that's about perfect. 1991-92 would be the first Late X year with Grunge taking off, and I've always felt that 1995-96 was the last school year that was near 100% X. Gen Y culture really began to seep into high schools in 1996-97 with the likes of the Spice Girls and Hanson.

Just to keep this going, here's how I would define the '90s school years from a kid standpoint, as that was when I was in elementary and middle school.

1989-90: Early Y
1990-91: Early Y
1991-92: Early Y
1992-93: Early Y
1993-94: Kind of a balance between Early Y and Peak Y
1994-95: Peak Y
1995-96: Peak Y
1996-97: Peak Y
1997-98: Peak Y
1998-99: Peak Y
1999-00: Late Y

Luckily YouTube and Facebook did not exist when I was 13, so whatever I said online back then was not saved for posterity. I must admit, though, that there are some early forum posts I made back then that I'm not proud of. :-[


You posted on forums since the early 2000s? Now that's legendary.

You posted on forums since the early 2000s? Now that's legendary.

Yes, that is legendary. Respect to mach!ne_he@d 8).

I loved Back to the Future and Sixteen Candles when I was 14, so I'm a Gen Xer.


Not to mention, I also watched a little bit of H.R. Pufnstuf as a kid (yes, I actually did watch that show). However, by the time it first aired in 1969, both of my parents were kind of too old for the Sid and Marty Krofft stuff (my dad was 16 when it aired, and my mom was 9). Not to mention, my mother wasn't even born in the US.

I mostly however grew up watching Spongebob, The Fairly Oddparents, Nickelodeon Game Show reruns (GUTS, Legends of the Hidden Temple, Nick Arcade, etc), and as much as I hate to admit it, Barney.

That must also make me an honorary Gen Xer.

Not to mention, I also watched a little bit of H.R. Pufnstuf as a kid. However, by the time it first aired in 1969, both of my parents were kind of too old for the Sid and Marty Krofft stuff (my dad was 16 when it aired, and my mom was 9). Not to mention, my mother wasn't even born in the US.

I mostly however grew up watching Spongebob, The Fairly Oddparents, Nickelodeon Game Show reruns (GUTS, Legends of the Hidden Temple, Nick Arcade, etc), and as much as I hate to admit it, Barney.

That must also make me an honorary Gen Xer.

I'm also an honorary Gen Xer but I wish that I was actually a Gen Xer (born in either 1970-1975).

You posted on forums since the early 2000s? Now that's legendary.


Oh yeah, I've been posting on forums since at least late 2000. I used to post stuff on ICQ groups, and video game forums like Game Informer and IGN. I think I started my first IGN account in mid 2002. I don't remember what it was called, though.

Yes, that is legendary. Respect to mach!ne_he@d 8).


I wish I knew what forums did he posted on during the early 2000s. That would've been interesting for me to look up.


Oh yeah, I've been posting on forums since at least late 2000. I used to post stuff on ICQ groups, and video game forums like Game Informer and IGN. I think I started my first IGN account in mid 2002. I don't remember what it was called, though.


Oh. Well, I would've looked up your name on IGN. Although it wouldn't be the same since the IGN Boards have that modern feel to me since 2015.

I'm also an honorary Gen Xer but I wish that I was actually a Gen Xer (born in either 1970-1975).


The good stuff about it:

You would get into good pop culture.
You would graduate HS prior to the shootings at Columbine High School. You may have also already graduated from college, too.
You would have had in general a freer childhood as a child during the 70's and 80's. To be honest, I also wished that I was born in the 1970's.

However:

You would have to be responsible for the welfare of your children and wife as well as your job, house, etc. You are the head of the family.
You have to pay a lot of taxes.
When researching stuff at HS or college, you would actually have to go to a library instead of searching stuff on your computer.

Oh yeah, I've been posting on forums since at least late 2000. I used to post stuff on ICQ groups, and video game forums like Game Informer and IGN. I think I started my first IGN account in mid 2002. I don't remember what it was called, though.

You're a legend bruv 8).


The good stuff about it:

You would get into good pop culture.
You would graduate HS prior to the shootings at Columbine High School. You may have also already graduated from college, too.
You would have had in general a freer childhood as a child during the 70's and 80's. To be honest, I also wished that I was born in the 1970's.

However:

You would have to be responsible for the welfare of your children and wife as well as your job, house, etc. You are the head of the family.

I have no problem with being head of the family. The perks to me outweigh the benefits...if I was born 1970-1975 (I would of loved it) 8). Also, it's nice to see another '99er wish they were a Gen Xer...awesome bruv.

However:

You have to pay a lot of taxes.
When researching stuff at HS or college, you would actually have to go to a library instead of searching stuff on your computer.

I would have no problem with that.

I wish I knew what forums did he posted on during the early 2000s. That would've been interesting for me to look up.

Oh. Well, I would've looked up your name on IGN. Although it wouldn't be the same since the IGN Boards have that modern feel to me since 2015.


Does IGN actually have it's forums archived going back to 2002? If so, I would actually like to try to find a few of my old posts myself.

Does IGN actually have it's forums archived going back to 2002? If so, I would actually like to try to find a few of my old posts myself.

I hope you can, you legend 8).

Does IGN actually have it's forums archived going back to 2002? If so, I would actually like to try to find a few of my old posts myself.


Well, they did. They could probably go all the way back to 2001/2002. Here's a thread from late 2001 from IGN.

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/feature-test-1-0.12404542/

I hope you can, you legend 8).


Legend is a bit of a stretch. I'd settle for hero. ;)

Now, the folks that were posting on Usenet back in the late '80s and early '90s, those guys are legends. 8)


Well, they did. They could probably go all the way back to 2001/2002. Here's a thread from late 2001 from IGN.

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/feature-test-1-0.12404542/


That's cool! I'll have to take a look back through some of those older posts and see if I can find some of mine.

Legend is a bit of a stretch. I'd settle for hero. ;)

Now, the folks that were posting on Usenet back in the late '80s and early '90s, those guys are legends. 8)

Either way, you're my HERO! ;).

That's cool! I'll have to take a look back through some of those older posts and see if I can find some of mine.


I wish I could've seen your posts on IGN, since I was a member there. I was known as Baltimoreian on their forums, even though some of my posts were kinda embarrassing.

I wish I could've seen your posts on IGN, since I was a member there. I was known as Baltimoreian on their forums, even though some of my posts were kinda embarrassing.

I've seen some of your posts and yes some of them are very cringe worthy. Also, you really have a bad rep on IGN.

I've seen some of your posts and yes some of them are very cringe worthy. Also, you really have a bad rep on IGN.


Yeah, they were cringy AF. It was a big mistake yelling at all caps with those people. Especially towards SuperGameCube1999.

I have a Tripod website that I started around 1999. Does that make me a legend, too? ???

Yeah, they were cringy AF. It was a big mistake yelling at all caps with those people. Especially towards SuperGameCube1999.

Well, at least you've grown up and matured out of it.


I have a Tripod website that I started around 1999. Does that make me a legend, too? ???

Tripod? You can't be legend because of that ;D.

I have a Tripod website that I started around 1999. Does that make me a legend, too? ???


Was it on how 1999 was the coolest year in history?  ;D ;D


Well, at least you've grown up and matured out of it.


I grew out of it when I joined this site.

I had a Geocities website in 2002. My cousin told me to sell the Yu-gi-oh cards I didn't like, so I set that website up. Someone emailed me to buy my cards, but I had no idea how to send it or take payment.  :-[

Was it on how 1999 was the coolest year in history?  ;D ;D


Not really. I just documented the shows I attended and other random rants of mine. It had a little "Journal" section where I reviewed different shows and bands and what area I was in and I even reviewed some of the most recent album releases. There were also links to other pop punk sites and whatever else.


I had a Geocities website in 2002. My cousin told me to sell the Yu-gi-oh cards I didn't like, so I set that website up. Someone emailed me to buy my cards, but I had no idea how to send it or take payment.  :-[


Haha! Sucker! :P

I grew out of it when I joined this site.

Good job.


Not really. I just documented the shows I attended and other random rants of mine. It had a little "Journal" section where I reviewed different shows and bands and what area I was in and I even reviewed some of the most recent album releases. There were also links to other pop punk sites and whatever else.

https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder95/23314095.jpg

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I had a Geocities website in 2002. My cousin told me to sell the Yu-gi-oh cards I didn't like, so I set that website up. Someone emailed me to buy my cards, but I had no idea how to send it or take payment.  :-[


That's awesome (not the Yu-gi-oh car mishap, though)! I really miss Geocities. Just thinking about that site gives me some huge Web 1.0 era nostalgia.

I created a website on Homestead in 2001. Believe it or not, it was a fansite for the show Reboot, which I was big into watching on Toonami at the time. It was pretty awful. 8-P

Not really. I just documented the shows I attended and other random rants of mine. It had a little "Journal" section where I reviewed different shows and bands and what area I was in and I even reviewed some of the most recent album releases. There were also links to other pop punk sites and whatever else.


That's totally 90s/early 2000s for you. lol

Good job.
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder95/23314095.jpg

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


No, my site was really cool. A lot of people in my area used it as a resource for finding music and knowing the best shows to check out. I always had upcoming shows updated, too.


That's totally 90s/early 2000s for you. lol


It was. 8)

Not really. I just documented the shows I attended and other random rants of mine. It had a little "Journal" section where I reviewed different shows and bands and what area I was in and I even reviewed some of the most recent album releases. There were also links to other pop punk sites and whatever else.

Haha! Sucker! :P


Did your site have a hit counter? I kept refreshing to inflate mine ;D

No, my site was really cool. A lot of people in my area used it as a resource for finding music and knowing the best shows to check out. I always had upcoming shows updated, too.

I'm just messin' with ya! ;D ;).

That's awesome (not the Yu-gi-oh car mishap, though)! I really miss Geocities. Just thinking about that site gives me some huge Web 1.0 era nostalgia.

I created a website on Homestead in 2001. Believe it or not, it was a fansite for the show Reboot, which I was big into watching on Toonami at the time. It was pretty awful. 8-P


Oh I watched that show a lot in the late '90s. The website was terrible, or the show? ;D

A whole fansite, that's dedication!

Did your site have a hit counter? I kept refreshing to inflate mine ;D


It did! I don't remember how high I got but it was a reasonably good number.


I'm just messin' with ya! ;D ;).


Figured. :P ;D

Oh I watched that show a lot in the late '90s. The website was terrible, or the show? ;D

A whole fansite, that's dedication!


Reboot kicked ass. My Homestead site was terrible. ;)

It did have an episode guide, and character bios, though, so it was pretty thorough.

Figured. :P ;D

Anyways, yes you're a legend 8).......................even with your Pitbull infatuation ;D.

Anyways, yes you're a legend 8).......................even with you Pitbull infatuation ;D.


Thanks! 8)

Thanks! 8)

You're welcome boss 8).

Luckily YouTube and Facebook did not exist when I was 13, so whatever I said online back then was not saved for posterity. I must admit, though, that there are some early forum posts I made back then that I'm not proud of. :-[

Question for you, Machine: since "normies" eat up Buzzfeed like candy, and since this video is quite popular with 2 million views, do you think more and more people have realized, over the past week, that a "Gen Z" in fact exists and Millennials aren't current kids or teens anymore?

A fair amount of people already know this, but I think this video was a blatant slap in the face to the other people who didn't know that yes, YOU, the 25 year old, are the Millennial. Not your 12 year old students. ;D

But you was a teen from 2008-2014 :(. I'm a teen from 2012-2018...so some overlap ::).


I personally don't view myself as being a teen anymore. My adolescence ended when I turned 18 a month ago.

I personally don't view myself as being a teen anymore. My adolescence ended when I turned 18 a month ago.

18 and 19 are still teens, adolescence is slightly different (when you're 14-17).

Also, I'm not 18 just yet.

Question for you, Machine: since "normies" eat up Buzzfeed like candy, and since this video is quite popular with 2 million views, do you think more and more people have realized, over the past week, that a "Gen Z" in fact exists and Millennials aren't current kids or teens anymore?

A fair amount of people already know this, but I think this video was a blatant slap in the face to the other people who didn't know that yes, YOU, the 25 year old, are the Millennial. Not your 12 year old students. ;D


Oh, I'm sure there were quite a few people seeing that video for the first time that were shocked to learn that they were actually considered "Millennials". I've seen this happen myself before, and it can be ugly. I remember a guy I knew born in 1985 that used to rail against 2010's teenagers as "Millennials", and he was stunned when I once told him that actually kids born in the '80s are considered part of that generation. He actually didn't believe me until I showed him the Wikipedia article.

Yeah. People born in the 80s tend to get p*ssy about being Millennials. Even if you use a narrow definition like 1980-1995 or 1982-1997 or 1981-1996 (as opposed to a "fat" one like 1980-2000), they still object. The reason being, they feel, is because people born before 1990 know the world without Internet (which became mainstream in 1995), while nobody born after 1990 knows the world without Internet.

I can see their point. But it should be noted that the Internet those of us born in the 90s used in the 00s was rather primitive compared to today. Heck, even 2004-2011 websites, while still in the "Web 2.0" range, still seem relatively quaint and social media-free compared to post-2011 net. Just look at early YouTube. Stuff like Twitter, Facebook, and iPhones didn't REALLY take off until 2011.

But again I see their point. Growing up with smallish-scale Internet isn't the same as growing up with no Internet at all.

Yeah, I agree. I can understand their points but still stop acting like d*cks.

And on the other side of the spectrum, you have people born in 1998-2000 who were shocked that they aren't Millennials (see comments of the video).

I can see where they're coming from though. Considering the media seemingly tries to portray those born in 98-2000, i.e. Jaden Smith, as being the heart and soul of the Millennials (because the makeup-caked charismatic-less vampires on Fox News and MSNBC think "Millennial" = "anyone young").

I agree, it infuriates me a bit.

What do they know? They're fake news. ;D

Absolutely ;D.

Yeah. People born in the 80s tend to get p*ssy about being Millennials. Even if you use a narrow definition like 1980-1995 or 1982-1997 or 1981-1996 (as opposed to a "fat" one like 1980-2000), they still object. The reason being, they feel, is because people born before 1990 know the world without Internet (which became mainstream in 1995), while nobody born after 1990 knows the world without Internet.

I can see their point. But it should be noted that the Internet those of us born in the 90s used in the 00s was rather primitive compared to today. Heck, even 2004-2011 websites, while still in the "Web 2.0" range, still seem relatively quaint and social media-free compared to post-2011 net. Just look at early YouTube. Stuff like Twitter, Facebook, and iPhones didn't REALLY take off until 2011.

But again I see their point. Growing up with smallish-scale Internet isn't the same as growing up with no Internet at all.


I find that line of thinking that anybody born post-1989 does not know anything about a world without the internet to be absurd myself. My 1991 born brother grew up without the internet just like I did. Yes, the internet started to become "mainstream" in 1995-96, but it was hardly ubiquitous in the Dot-Com era. Even up to, like, 2000 or 2001 less than 50% of the U.S. population had internet access.

Hell, I didn't even use the internet all that much in the early '00s, honestly. There wasn't really that much to do on there back then, compared to today. I'd go online for maybe an hour a day back then, if that. I would go so far as to say that the internet didn't really become the key part of our everyday lives that it is today until YouTube, Twitter, MySpace, etc. really took off in the late '00s. Certainly anybody born in 1995 could remember a time when the internet was not as "vital" as it is these days.

I find that line of thinking that anybody born post-1989 does not know anything about a world without the internet to be absurd myself. My 1991 born brother grew up without the internet just like I did. Yes, the internet started to become "mainstream" in 1995-96, but it was hardly ubiquitous in the Dot-Com era. Even up to, like, 2000 or 2001 less than 50% of the U.S. population had internet access.

Hell, I didn't even use the internet all that much in the early '00s, honestly. There wasn't really that much to do on there back then, compared to today. I'd go online for maybe an hour a day back then, if that. I would go so far as to say that the internet didn't really become the key part of our everyday lives that it is today until YouTube, Twitter, MySpace, etc. really took off in the late '00s. Certainly anybody born in 1995 could remember a time when the internet was not as "vital" as it is these days.

Even a 99er like me slightly remembers a time before the Internet was not vital to our daily lives.

And on the other side of the spectrum, you have people born in 1998-2000 who were shocked that they aren't Millennials (see comments of the video).

I can see where they're coming from though. Considering the media seemingly tries to portray those born in 98-2000, i.e. Jaden Smith, as being the heart and soul of the Millennials (because the makeup-caked charismatic-less vampires on Fox News and MSNBC think "Millennial" = "anyone young").


Pew just goes by anyone who's 18-34 in a certain year, which is just as bad.

Millennial = / = Young guy

They are not synonymous terms.

And on the other side of the spectrum, you have people born in 1998-2000 who were shocked that they aren't Millennials (see comments of the video).

I can see where they're coming from though. Considering the media seemingly tries to portray those born in 98-2000, i.e. Jaden Smith, as being the heart and soul of the Millennials (because the makeup-caked charismatic-less vampires on Fox News and MSNBC think "Millennial" = "anyone young").


And about 3-5 years from now, Jojo Siwa will be represented by the media as the truest Millennial that ever lived.

Roll 'em in a circle of dudes
And watch me break 'em with the 7, 7-11, 7-11
7, even back door Lil Joe :).

And about 3-5 years from now, even Jojo Siwa will be represented by the media as the truest Millennial that ever lived.


IDK who that is, but assuming she was born after 2000, I'd have to agree with Zelek that as more and more 'normies' start to become accustomed to 'Gen Z', the media will likely stop claiming all young people=Millennials.

IDK who that is, but assuming she was born after 2000, I'd have to agree with Zelek that as more and more 'normies' start to become accustomed to 'Gen Z', the media will likely stop claiming all young people=Millennials.

Hopefully.

IDK who that is, but assuming she was born after 2000, I'd have to agree with Zelek that as more and more 'normies' start to become accustomed to 'Gen Z', the media will likely stop claiming all young people=Millennials.


Jojo Siwa is a dancer from Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition. If you were wondering about her age, she was born on May 19, 2003.

http://celebrityphone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoJo-Siwa-1.jpg

I'm not exactly sure why Buzzfeed chose 1997 of all years to close off the Millennials.

But part of me thinks they, perhaps, noticed 2003 was the last year of "pure Millennial" things like ska music, Pokemon when Misty was there, the popularity of JNCO jeans, Toonami pre-Saturday nights, etc. And since ages 6-12 are considered your "core" childhood years, they subtracted the minimum number (6) from 2003, thus arriving at 1997.

I could be giving them too much credit though. ;D

Jojo Siwa is a dancer from Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition. If you were wondering about her age, she was born on May 19, 2003.

http://celebrityphone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoJo-Siwa-1.jpg

Why do you know who she is? ???

I'm not exactly sure why Buzzfeed chose 1997 of all years to close off the Millennials.

But part of me thinks they, perhaps, noticed 2003 was the last year of "pure Millennial" things like ska music, Pokemon when Misty was there, the popularity of JNCO jeans, Toonami pre-Saturday nights, etc. And since ages 5-12 are considered your "core" childhood years, they subtracted the minimum number (5) from 2003, thus arriving at 1997.

I could be giving them too much credit though. ;D


But by that definition wouldn't it suitable for 1998 being the cutoff ???

But by that definition wouldn't it suitable for 1998 being the cutoff ???

Gaaahhh, I meant to say ages 6-12. Fixed!

Why do you know who she is? ???


How? Youtube and Nickelodeon.

I don't care what anyone say Millennials are born from 1982-2000. People born 1982-1984/1985 will feel that they are a mix of Gen X and Gen Y. Meanwhile, people born from 1997/1998-2000 will feel that they are a mix of both Gen Y and Gen Z.


How? Youtube and Nickelodeon.

Why? ???

I don't care what anyone say Millennials are born from 1982-2000. People born 1982-1984/1985 will feel that they are a mix of Gen X and Gen Y. Meanwhile, people born from 1997/1998-2000 will feel that they are a mix of both Gen Y and Gen Z.
Why? ???


I still sometimes watch Nickelodeon whenever Spongebob is on, and I happened to see Jojo Siwa on a bumper (probably a Nickelodeon KCA bumper). At first I didn't really have a clue who she was and then I looked her up on Google and to some extent YouTube. Please do not take this in a bad way.

I still sometimes watch Nickelodeon whenever Spongebob is on, and I happened to see Jojo Siwa on a bumper (probably a Nickelodeon KCA bumper). At first I didn't really have a clue who she was and then I looked her up on Google and to some extent YouTube. Please do not take this in a bad way.

I'm not taking it in a bad way but I just didn't expect you to know who she is. It's OK bruv :).

Millennials (1975 to 2006).  :P

When it comes to cutoff dates for the Millennial generation, the ones that end with an even number tend to be the most suitable.

1994: Mainly because:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 1999 and enter compulsory school right before Y2K while when internet adoption rates were under 50%

-they were ages 7/8 (their childhood peaks, also when they enter the concrete operational stage) in 2001-2002 thus making them to last be able to fully remember and comprehend the full impact of 9/11

-they were the last to enter their teens during the core 2000's, the year 2007

-were the last to be old enough to vote (if they so wished to) for Obama, also last to come of age before the Y/Z Cultural transition (2013-2017)


1996: mainly:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 2001 and enter compulsory school before 9/11

-they were the last to be in their peak childhoods during the last 100% Y kid oriented cultural school year in 2003-2004

-they were the last to enter their teens in the 2000's

-they were the last to be in their peak youthful periods (entirety aged 9-24, peaking 16-17) in pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013 (right before the Y/Z transition)

-they were the last to come of age in the first half of the 2010's and vote in the 2014 election, this all pre 2016/Trump era politics


1998 mainly:

-they were the last to have possibly 'vague' memories of 9/11 and or a pre 9/11 world

-the last to be in their core childhoods in the Y era of kids culture during 2003-2004, and to spend a significant amount of time during Y culture with their childhoods peaking in 2005-2006 which was the ultimate Y/Z cusp school year pertaining to kid culture

-the last to be in high school during the pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013

-the last to be at the peak of their youth when culture slightly leaned more Y in 2014-2015

-the last to come of age in the liberal 'Millennial' era of the mid 2010's in 2016, before Trump came into office, also the youngest to vote for Trump or Hillary in 2016


Finally you have 2000 mainly:

-they were the last to be born in the 20th century

-going with the generally accepted 1982-2000 definition, 2000 being the end coincides with the Chinese Zodiac in similarity to the Baby Boomers being 1946-1964

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods when Y kid culture was at least 50% influential to pop culture in the 2005-2006 school year

-the last to spend most of their core childhoods prior to the 2008 financial crisis, being at their core as ages 7/8 in 2007-2008 right before
the storm (although this was when we were 100% deep into Z kid culture by then)

-the last to be enter their youth period in the 2000's, at age 9

-the last to become teens in the early 10's

-the last to spend most of their 'youth', aka ages 16-17, during the liberal political era that Millennials came of age in, during 2016-2017 (although pop culturally things started to swing more Z by this point)

So from a political standpoint it seems like 2000 borns (ironically) are the last to have a stereotypical Y up brining, as in having most of their childhoods prior to the 2008 financial crisis, and having most of their youth before Trump became president. However, culturally they would be the first to have a stereotypical Z upbringing such as having most of their core childhoods when Z kid culture was relevant, and having the peak of their youth in 2016-2017 when Z youth culture is now relevant and they will continue to be in their youths well into the 2020's).

So from a political/demographic standpoint, 2000 seems to be the most reasonable cutoff point, 1998 is reasonable from both a cultural and demographic standpoint despite them being massively cuspy as well. Those born in from 1995-1997/8 are safely Y (despite having a few Z influences), and those born in 1994 & before (like till the early 80's) are unequivocally Y.

In short 1994, 1996, 1998, & 2000 seem to be the most balanced cutoff years. I agree with Zelek that 1997 really isn't a noteworthy cutoff year.

When it comes to cutoff dates for the Millennial generation, the ones that end with an even number tend to be the most suitable.

1994: Mainly because:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 1999 and enter compulsory school right before Y2K while when internet adoption rates were under 50%

-they were ages 7/8 (their childhood peaks, also when they enter the concrete operational stage) in 2001-2002 thus making them to last be able to fully remember and comprehend the full impact of 9/11

-they were the last to enter their teens during the core 2000's, the year 2007

-were the last to be old enough to vote (if they so wished to) for Obama, also last to come of age before the Y/Z Cultural transition (2013-2017)


1996: mainly:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 2001 and enter compulsory school before 9/11

-they were the last to be in their peak childhoods during the last 100% Y kid oriented cultural school year in 2003-2004

-they were the last to enter their teens in the 2000's

-they were the last to be in their peak youthful periods (entirety aged 9-24, peaking 16-17) in pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013 (right before the Y/Z transition)

-they were the last to come of age in the first half of the 2010's and vote in the 2014 election, this all pre 2016/Trump era politics


1998 mainly:

-they were the last to have possibly 'vague' memories of 9/11 and or a pre 9/11 world

-the last to be in their core childhoods in the Y era of kids culture during 2003-2004, and to spend a significant amount of time during Y culture with their childhoods peaking in 2005-2006 which was the ultimate Y/Z cusp school year pertaining to kid culture

-the last to be in high school during the pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013

-the last to be at the peak of their youth when culture slightly leaned more Y in 2014-2015

-the last to come of age in the liberal 'Millennial' era of the mid 2010's in 2016, before Trump came into office, also the youngest to vote for Trump or Hillary in 2016


Finally you have 2000 mainly:

-they were the last to be born in the 20th century

-going with the generally accepted 1982-2000 definition, 2000 being the end coincides with the Chinese Zodiac in similarity to the Baby Boomers being 1946-1964

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods when Y kid culture was at least 50% influential to pop culture in the 2005-2006 school year

-the last to spend most of their core childhoods prior to the 2008 financial crisis, being at their core as ages 7/8 in 2007-2008 right before
the storm

-the last to be enter their youth period in the 2000's, at age 9

-the last to become teens in the early 10's

-the last to spend most of their 'youth', aka ages 16-17, during the liberal political era that Millennials came of age in, during 2016-2017 (although pop culturally things started to swing more Z by this point)


In short 1994, 1996, 1998, & 2000 seem to be the most balanced cutoff years. I agree with Zelek that 1997 really isn't a noteworthy cutoff year.

Solid and detailed post. I agree :).

And since ages 6-12 are considered your "core" childhood years,

It's really 6-10...
11 and 12 are "latter'' childhood years.

When it comes to cutoff dates for the Millennial generation, the ones that end with an even number tend to be the most suitable.

1994: Mainly because:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 1999 and enter compulsory school right before Y2K while when internet adoption rates were under 50%

-they were ages 7/8 (their childhood peaks, also when they enter the concrete operational stage) in 2001-2002 thus making them to last be able to fully remember and comprehend the full impact of 9/11

-they were the last to enter their teens during the core 2000's, the year 2007

-were the last to be old enough to vote (if they so wished to) for Obama, also last to come of age before the Y/Z Cultural transition (2013-2017)


1996: mainly:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 2001 and enter compulsory school before 9/11

-they were the last to be in their peak childhoods during the last 100% Y kid oriented cultural school year in 2003-2004

-they were the last to enter their teens in the 2000's

-they were the last to be in their peak youthful periods (entirety aged 9-24, peaking 16-17) in pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013 (right before the Y/Z transition)

-they were the last to come of age in the first half of the 2010's and vote in the 2014 election, this all pre 2016/Trump era politics


1998 mainly:

-they were the last to have possibly 'vague' memories of 9/11 and or a pre 9/11 world

-the last to be in their core childhoods in the Y era of kids culture during 2003-2004, and to spend a significant amount of time during Y culture with their childhoods peaking in 2005-2006 which was the ultimate Y/Z cusp school year pertaining to kid culture

-the last to be in high school during the pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013

-the last to be at the peak of their youth when culture slightly leaned more Y in 2014-2015

-the last to come of age in the liberal 'Millennial' era of the mid 2010's in 2016, before Trump came into office, also the youngest to vote for Trump or Hillary in 2016


Finally you have 2000 mainly:

-they were the last to be born in the 20th century

-going with the generally accepted 1982-2000 definition, 2000 being the end coincides with the Chinese Zodiac in similarity to the Baby Boomers being 1946-1964

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods when Y kid culture was at least 50% influential to pop culture in the 2005-2006 school year

-the last to spend most of their core childhoods prior to the 2008 financial crisis, being at their core as ages 7/8 in 2007-2008 right before
the storm

-the last to be enter their youth period in the 2000's, at age 9

-the last to become teens in the early 10's

-the last to spend most of their 'youth', aka ages 16-17, during the liberal political era that Millennials came of age in, during 2016-2017 (although pop culturally things started to swing more Z by this point)


In short 1994, 1996, 1998, & 2000 seem to be the most balanced cutoff years. I agree with Zelek that 1997 really isn't a noteworthy cutoff year.

Although, I would disagree with you on one point with 1998....I think 1999 is the last to have vague memories of 9/11.

Although, I would disagree with you on one point with 1998....I think 1999 is the last to have vague memories of 9/11.


I think only half of 1999 babies could vaguely remember 9/11. I can't remember it since I was born in late 1999.

Baby Boomers are generally considered to be born from 1946 to 1964.

1946, WWII had already ended, especially a year earlier. 1964 is when 'The Sixties' was considered to have finally started culturally.

Since events can be a great start and end date for generations, like the Baby Boomers. Maybe 1982 to 2000 are the Millennials? That's when the economy in the US is said to have exploded and did great.

I think only half of 1999 babies could vaguely remember 9/11. I can't remember it since I was born in late 1999.

I didn't say all 1999 babies bud. Just that people born in 1999 are last ones to have vague memories of 9/11.

I agree with Zelek that 1997 really isn't a noteworthy cutoff year.

It's not that noteworthy, but I think the reason Buzzfeed chose it is because they were the last to have at least part of their core childhood(6-10) in the days of Powerhouse Era for CN, Klasky Csupo Era for Nick, Golden/Silver Age of Kids Wb & Fox Kids/Block, the last Web 1.0 school year, the last school year discmans were popular, the last firm CRT school year, the last year VHS was still sold to the publicl and it was normal to still watch it, the last year of the Gameboy era, the last year when cell phones weren't a necessary and payphones were common, the last year toys like Bop It's, Tamagotchis/Neopets, Pokemom/YuGiOH Cards, Furbys, Robodogs, Super Soakers, Nickelodeon branded toys, & Beyblades were firmly popular, the last good school year for SpongeBob, YuGiOh, Pokemon (original 5 seasons), pre-Channel Chasers Fairly Odd Parents, pre-cancellation Family Guy, the last year a Pop Punk, Nu Metal & early 00's style R&B were popular, baggy jeans were fashionable with guys, stores like Old Navy were still relevant, Online gaming not system seller and local multiplayer still very common, etc.

Although, I would disagree with you on one point with 1998....I think 1999 is the last to have vague memories of 9/11.


The reason I said 1998 because they would've been 3, thus the last to be in their early childhood prior to 9/11. Most people agree that children receive their first substantial memories around age 3 or 4, so 1997/8 would the last to possibly have substantial memories of it. However, vague memories do first appear at age 2, so its possible some 1999 babies could, but like NewYorkRaven mentioned, it'll likely only be reserved to early 99 babies. After that, its nears impossible for someone to remember 9/11

Jojo Siwa is a dancer from Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition. If you were wondering about her age, she was born on May 19, 2003.

http://celebrityphone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/JoJo-Siwa-1.jpg


She looks like she was born in 2009.

It's not that noteworthy, but I think the reason Buzzfeed chose it is because they were the last to have at least part of their core childhood(6-10) in the days of Powerhouse Era for CN, Klasky Csupo Era for Nick, Golden/Silver Age of Kids Wb & Fox Kids/Block, the last Web 1.0 school year, the last school year discmans were popular, the last firm CRT school year, the last year VHS was still sold to the publicl and it was normal to still watch it, the last year of the Gameboy era, the last year when cell phones weren't a necessary and payphones were common, the last year toys like Bop It's, Tamagotchis/Neopets, Pokemom/YuGiOH Cards, Furbys, Robodogs, Super Soakers, Nickelodeon branded toys, & Beyblades were firmly popular, the last good school year for SpongeBob, YuGiOh, Pokemon (original 5 seasons), pre-Channel Chasers Fairly Odd Parents, pre-cancellation Family Guy, the last year a Pop Punk, Nu Metal & early 00's style R&B were popular, baggy jeans were fashionable with guys, stores like Old Navy were still relevant, Online gaming not system seller and local multiplayer still very common, etc.

I see. These are VERY valid reasons... But 1998 seems like a better cut off tho.

It's not that noteworthy, but I think the reason Buzzfeed chose it is because they were the last to have at least part of their core childhood(6-10) in the days of Powerhouse Era for CN, Klasky Csupo Era for Nick, Golden/Silver Age of Kids Wb & Fox Kids/Block, the last Web 1.0 school year, the last school year discmans were popular, the last firm CRT school year, the last year VHS was still sold to the publicl and it was normal to still watch it, the last year of the Gameboy era, the last year when cell phones weren't a necessary and payphones were common, the last year toys like Bop It's, Tamagotchis/Neopets, Pokemom/YuGiOH Cards, Furbys, Robodogs, Super Soakers, Nickelodeon branded toys, & Beyblades were firmly popular, the last good school year for SpongeBob, YuGiOh, Pokemon (original 5 seasons), pre-Channel Chasers Fairly Odd Parents, pre-cancellation Family Guy, the last year a Pop Punk, Nu Metal & early 00's style R&B were popular, baggy jeans were fashionable with guys, stores like Old Navy were still relevant, Online gaming not system seller and local multiplayer still very common, etc.

Stop trying to defend BuzzFeed.

I see. These are VERY valid reasons... But 1998 seems like a better cut off tho.

2000 is better cutoff :).

Stoo trying to defend BuzzFeed.

I agree ReignMan. ::)  Buzzfeed is cancer after all! ;) ;D

I agree ReignMan. ::)  Buzzfeed is cancer after all! ;) ;D

True ;).

2000 is better cutoff :) .

aww I see what you doin! ;) 

True ;) .

I keep forgetting to call you Shawn! ;D

Stop trying to defend BuzzFeed.

I have to defend them, they're my employers.

It's not that noteworthy, but I think the reason Buzzfeed chose it is because they were the last to have at least part of their core childhood(6-10) in the days of Powerhouse Era for CN, Klasky Csupo Era for Nick, Golden/Silver Age of Kids Wb & Fox Kids/Block, the last Web 1.0 school year, the last school year discmans were popular, the last firm CRT school year, the last year VHS was still sold to the publicl and it was normal to still watch it, the last year of the Gameboy era, the last year when cell phones weren't a necessary and payphones were common, the last year toys like Bop It's, Tamagotchis/Neopets, Pokemom/YuGiOH Cards, Furbys, Robodogs, Super Soakers, Nickelodeon branded toys, & Beyblades were firmly popular, the last good school year for SpongeBob, YuGiOh, Pokemon (original 5 seasons), pre-Channel Chasers Fairly Odd Parents, pre-cancellation Family Guy, the last year a Pop Punk, Nu Metal & early 00's style R&B were popular, baggy jeans were fashionable with guys, stores like Old Navy were still relevant, Online gaming not system seller and local multiplayer still very common, etc.


That makes sense. FWIW, it all boils down to where you choose for core childhood to begin. Some say age 5, others say age 6. However, literally everybody agrees that by 7 your solidly in you core years. Now personally I don't see age 5 as entirely core. I see it as a transitional year more or less, similar to age 10. The full core 'meat and potatoes' of someone's childhood is ages 6-9, with ages 5 & 10 acting as transitional mediators. Ages 3-4 is solidly early, ages 11-12 is solidly late.



I see. These are VERY valid reasons... But 1998 seems like a better cut off tho.


THIS. I'd have to agree out of all the cutoff points 1998 seems the most reasonable for the reasons I laid above. However, I do get where ReignMan99 is coming from that to cutoff at 1998 is kind of awkward since you would allow everybody born in the 90's to be Gen Y, but then all of a sudden leave 1999 out of out the picture. By this token I'm okay with extending the cutoff point a couple years to 2000.

aww I see what you doin! ;)

;)


I keep forgetting to call you Shawn! ;D

It's OK ;D.


I have to defend them, they're my employers.

I knew it ;D.

Solid and detailed post. I agree :).


1993 is the only odd year that I could probably see as a possible cutoff (last to be able to drive in the 2000's, last to be at elementary school when the Columbine shooting took place, last to remember Nick's Golden Age).

The reason I said 1998 because they would've been 3, thus the last to be in their early childhood prior to 9/11. Most people agree that children receive their first substantial memories around age 3 or 4, so 1997/8 would the last to possibly have substantial memories of it. However, vague memories do first appear at age 2, so its possible some 1999 babies could, but like NewYorkRaven mentioned, it'll likely only be reserved to early 99 babies. After that, its nears impossible for someone to remember 9/11


I said half of 1999 babies, meaning those who were born in early-mid 1999. I'm not sure those who were born in September to December of 1999, since they were under 2 years old when it happened.


It's not that noteworthy, but I think the reason Buzzfeed chose it is because they were the last to have at least part of their core childhood(6-10) in the days of Powerhouse Era for CN, Klasky Csupo Era for Nick, Golden/Silver Age of Kids Wb & Fox Kids/Block, the last Web 1.0 school year, the last school year discmans were popular, the last firm CRT school year, the last year VHS was still sold to the publicl and it was normal to still watch it, the last year of the Gameboy era, the last year when cell phones weren't a necessary and payphones were common, the last year toys like Bop It's, Tamagotchis/Neopets, Pokemom/YuGiOH Cards, Furbys, Robodogs, Super Soakers, Nickelodeon branded toys, & Beyblades were firmly popular, the last good school year for SpongeBob, YuGiOh, Pokemon (original 5 seasons), pre-Channel Chasers Fairly Odd Parents, pre-cancellation Family Guy, the last year a Pop Punk, Nu Metal & early 00's style R&B were popular, baggy jeans were fashionable with guys, stores like Old Navy were still relevant, Online gaming not system seller and local multiplayer still very common, etc.


I think it's subjective to think that VHS tapes were last sold in 2003, even though the last official tapes were released in early 2006. Even in where I live, people still find VHS tapes to be normal while watching after 2006. It wasn't really until 2009 when people didn't really care about the format anymore and just threw them out. Even my dad decided to throw out my family's collection of VHS tapes, since nobody really uses them anymore.

THIS. I'd have to agree out of all the cutoff points 1998 seems the most reasonable for the reasons I laid above. However, I do get where ReignMan99 is coming from that to cutoff at 1998 is kind of awkward since you would allow everybody born in the 90's to be Gen Y, but then all of a sudden leave 1999 out of out the picture. By this token I'm okay with extending the cutoff point a couple years to 2000.

You can just call me Shawn or "ReignMan"/"Reign Man".

Anyways, I just don't see the point in leaving 1999 and 2000 out of Gen Y but that could be because I'm biased.

I have to defend them, they're my employers.


OMG! Zelek is secretly a Buzzfeed employer. NOES!!!!  :(

1993 is the only odd year that I could probably see as a possible cutoff (last to be able to drive in the 2000's, last to be at elementary school when the Columbine shooting took place, last to remember Nick's Golden Age).

1993 is definitely an odd end date to Gen Y.

The reason I said 1998 because they would've been 3, thus the last to be in their early childhood prior to 9/11. Most people agree that children receive their first substantial memories around age 3 or 4, so 1997/8 would the last to possibly have substantial memories of it. However, vague memories do first appear at age 2, so its possible some 1999 babies could, but like NewYorkRaven mentioned, it'll likely only be reserved to early 99 babies. After that, its nears impossible for someone to remember 9/11

I'm not 100% sure if I can remember 9/11 or not but I was just saying that 1999 borns (even if it's just early to mid) are the last people who would have vague memories of 9/11.

I said half of 1999 babies, meaning those who were born in early-mid 1999. I'm not sure those who were born in September to December of 1999, since they were under 2 years old when it happened.


I sincerely doubt anyone born in '99 could remember 9/11 (even admitting it myself). Even I have a hard time finding 1998ers who could remember the event. The only guy I know born in '98 who could remember the event is the guy who sits next to me in my period 3 class (sadly, it happened to be his birthday).

Don't get me wrong. I've heard of many cases where people born in the late 90's could remember the year 2001 (like myself where I can remember a trip to the beach about two months before 9/11), but they don't remember 9/11. This is why I sometimes use 1996 as the "last birthyear that could remember 9/11".

I am thinking about doing a survey about 9/11 memories at college next year that will consist of test takers born between 1997 and 1999.

I don't care what anyone say Millennials are born from 1982-2000. People born 1982-1984/1985 will feel that they are a mix of Gen X and Gen Y. Meanwhile, people born from 1997/1998-2000 will feel that they are a mix of both Gen Y and Gen Z.
Why? ???


I don't think people born in 1984 and 1985 remember Reagan enough to be XY cuspers. To be Gen X you need to know the Reagan era like the back of your hand.

I sincerely doubt anyone born in '99 could remember 9/11 (even admitting it myself). Even I have a hard time finding 1998ers who could remember the event. The only guy I know born in '98 who could remember the event is the guy who sits next to me in my period 3 class (sadly, it happened to be his birthday).

Don't get me wrong. I've heard of many cases where people born in the late 90's could remember the year 2001 (like myself), but they don't remember 9/11. This is why I sometimes use 1996 as the "last birthyear that could remember 9/11".

I am thinking about doing a survey about 9/11 memories at college next year that will consist of test takers born between 1997 and 1999.

SharksFan99 and TheKid99 can remember 9/11 and they were born in 1999.

SharksFan99 and TheKid99 can remember 9/11 and they were born in 1999.


TheKid99, wasn't he born later in the year like I was?

I don't think people born in 1984 and 1985 remember Reagan enough to be XY cuspers. To be Gen X you need to know the Reagan era like the back of your hand.

Why does remembering the "the Reagan era like the back of your hand." constitute as them potentially being a XY cusper or not? ???

TheKid99, wasn't he born later in the year like I was?

He was born in October.

I don't think people born in 1984 and 1985 remember Reagan enough to be XY cuspers. To be Gen X you need to know the Reagan era like the back of your hand.


Not to mention, it would be basically impossible for any of them to remember the Challenger explosion.

Why does remembering the "the Reagan era like the back of your hand." constitute as them potentially being a XY cusper or not? ???


Because you have to remember the wild unregulated 80s, especially the 1984-1987 boom period. Someone born in 1984 or 1985 isn't going to have a grasp of it because the first president they probably know is Bush Sr.

Not to mention, it would be basically impossible for any of them to remember the Challenger explosion.

Yes but Gen X culture lasted until the late '90s and I have seen some 1984 and 1985 borns who feel like a mix of Gen X and Gen Y.


Because you have to remember the wild unregulated 80s, especially the 1984-1987 boom period. Someone born in 1984 or 1985 isn't going to have a grasp of it because the first president they probably know is Bush Sr.

Bush 41's term was still dominated by Gen Y culture. Also, this is not about politics this is about...how many 1984 and 1985 feel as those they are a mix of Gen X and Gen Y.

It also really depends on where one lives.

A New York City resident born in 1996 or 1997 will definitely remember 9/11 better than a Turku (Finland) resident born in 1994.

SharksFan99 and TheKid99 can remember 9/11 and they were born in 1999.


TheKid99 could remember 9/11? I think he remembers it vaguely, or either had his mom tell it to him since he was almost two years old when it happened.

TheKid99 could remember 9/11? I think he remembers it vaguely, or either had his mom tell it to him since he was almost two years old when it happened.

He said that he has autism which I guess makes him memory better. He was born in October 1999.

I was born in 1995 but unlike many people my age, I don't remember 9/11. For one, we were living on the west coast at the time, and my parents weren't too worried because the attacks happened on the other side of the country, so they didn't make a fuss that day. For another, I just watched Nickelodeon at age 6, and the kids channels were still showing normal programming on 9/11, rather than pre-empting it for news coverage like the "grown-up" channels were doing. So I never saw the news reports of 9/11.


I think they wanted kids to watch cartoons instead of worrying about an attack that they'll barely remember. So I guess why you never really watched the news reports of 9/11.

He said that he has autism which I guess makes him memory better. He was born in October 1999.


Well, I have autism and I never had any memories over 9/11. I learned about it when I heard that Osama Bin Laden was killed.

I think they wanted kids to watch cartoons instead of worrying about an attack that they'll barely remember. So I guess why you never really watched the news reports of 9/11.

Nickelodeon just isn't obligated to show the news in cases of tragedy (or anytime at all). It's a kids channel, that's it.


Well, I have autism and I never had any memories over 9/11. I learned about it when I heard that Osama Bin Laden was killed.

That's pretty late to know about it and you have autism? :o. You never said that you did.

Nickelodeon just isn't obligated to show the news in cases of tragedy (or anytime at all). It's a kids channel, that's it.
That's pretty late to know about it and you have autism? :o. You never said that you did.


He's mentioned it, at least twice, before you came on this website. So you probably don't remember.  :o

He's mentioned it, at least twice, before you came on this website. So you probably don't remember.  :o

Well yeah, I obviously can't remember something that happened before I came ;D.

I am a 1999-born who lived in a small rural town in Northwestern PA when 9/11 took place. The funny part is that I have this one memory in mid 2001, but I could never recall any news events from the early 2000's.

What's even more frustrating is that I have older parents (Mom is 56 and Dad is 63),  and I personally just can't see how people like myself with parents born in the 1950's (however, my mom missed the 1950's by not even half a year, being born in mid June 1960) would in some sources belong in the same generation as people with parents that are even younger than most of my paternal cousins (most of which were born in the 1970s) and probably even younger than Lindsay Lohan. just because of a major news event that the two of us can't really remember for example. And if I talk about other factors for example, people might get different perspectives. And if you talk about how you have some late 90's memories, others may also get a different perspective.

The whole concept of generations is just, you know, silly. I truly wish this thread just was locked, and if possible, deleted because I really do not want these types of threads to get out of control and/or escalate like they do on PersonalityCafe.

Woah bruh :o  :o :o. Damn.

Nickelodeon just isn't obligated to show the news in cases of tragedy (or anytime at all). It's a kids channel, that's it.


Well, they did have a program called Nick News which talked about serious events. I remember they did an episode on 9/11.


That's pretty late to know about it and you have autism? :o. You never said that you did.


Well, my parents mostly sheltered from current events. I mostly watched cartoons and PBS Kids stuff when I was a kid. Also, I barely mention about my autism because they don't seem relevant within most threads here.

The reason I said 1998 because they would've been 3, thus the last to be in their early childhood prior to 9/11. Most people agree that children receive their first substantial memories around age 3 or 4, so 1997/8 would the last to possibly have substantial memories of it. However, vague memories do first appear at age 2, so its possible some 1999 babies could, but like NewYorkRaven mentioned, it'll likely only be reserved to early 99 babies. After that, its nears impossible for someone to remember 9/11


I have asked a few of my friends born in May and August 1999 on past occasions if they can vaguely remember 9/11, however they have admitted to me that they have no memory of it. To be fair, my memory of 9/11 is very vague and it is not a "motion" memory. If it wasn't for hearing my Mum's reaction to what had happened whilst talking to my Dad on the phone, I more than likely wouldn't remember it. However, with that said, I can remember what I was doing and where I was at the time. I was in the loungeroom, sitting on the floor scribbling in a drawing book which was placed on the coffee table. For whatever reason, I decided to look up at the TV and I can remember seeing brief scenes of what had happened several hours earlier. It would be interesting to know how common it is for people born in 1999 to remember 9/11 in some form. I think it's interesting that TheKid99 can remember 9/11, especially seeing as though he was born in October!

I don't think I've mentioned this yet. But you guys ROCK!!!
You guys have brought some new energy and light here in the boards. 2016 inthe00s was kinda too dark and serious. You guys have brought the fun back on here. and maybe its due to the social climate changing, IDK. All I know is that you guys keep up these fun posts.

I don't think I've mentioned this yet. But you guys ROCK!!!
You guys have brought some new energy and light here in the boards. 2016 inthe00s was kinda too dark and serious. You guys have brought the fun back on here. and maybe its due to the social climate changing, IDK. All I know is that you guys keep up these fun posts.

Thanks bruv. I started this inthe00s.com revival along with my other 1999 born brothers 8).

Well, they did have a program called Nick News which talked about serious events. I remember they did an episode on 9/11.

Well, my parents mostly sheltered from current events. I mostly watched cartoons and PBS Kids stuff when I was a kid. Also, I barely mention about my autism because they don't seem relevant within most threads here.

OK thanks.

I hope that you weren't offended.

Thanks bruv. I started this inthe00s.com revival along with my other 1999 born brothers 8).


You forgot the part about C-Sections.  :)

I have asked a few of my friends born in May and August 1999 on past occasions if they can vaguely remember 9/11, however they have admitted to me that they have no memory of it. To be fair, my memory of 9/11 is very vague and it is not a "motion" memory. If it wasn't for hearing my Mum's reaction to what had happened whilst talking to my Dad on the phone, I more than likely wouldn't remember it. However, with that said, I can remember what I was doing and where I was at the time. I was in the loungeroom, sitting on the floor scribbling in a drawing book which was placed on the coffee table. For whatever reason, I decided to look up at the TV and I can remember seeing brief scenes of what had happened several hours earlier. It would be interesting to know how common it is for people born in 1999 to remember 9/11 in some form. I think it's interesting that TheKid99 can remember 9/11, especially seeing as though he was born in October!

Interesting post :).

True.

I was born in 1995 but unlike many people my age, I don't remember 9/11. For one, we were living on the west coast at the time, and my parents weren't too worried because the attacks happened on the other side of the country, so they didn't make a fuss that day. For another, I just watched Nickelodeon at age 6, and the kids channels were still showing normal programming on 9/11, rather than pre-empting it for news coverage like the "grown-up" channels were doing. So I never saw the news reports of 9/11.

It's not that I didn't remember it, I remember many things before 9/11 and before 2001, it's just that I didn't think it was significant enough for me to store as a significant memory as it is to some Americans. I was a Canadian and a 6 year old at the time, so I didn't really care about it and I treated it as the same as a movie scene of an explosion. That's why I can't relate at all on this forum when people talk about the significance of "remembering 9/11" (especially as a means to fitting within a generation), But I do realize it is a huge deal for the U.S. I guess it just depends on the person and their situation. I'm sure it was still significant to many Canadians and other countries and less significant to some people families in the U.S. (maybe if they had other personal stuff going on).

You forgot the part about C-Sections.

;D Oh my god....yes. We were all born by C-Section.

I don't think I've mentioned this yet. But you guys ROCK!!!
You guys have brought some new energy and light here in the boards. 2016 inthe00s was kinda too dark and serious. You guys have brought the fun back on here. and maybe its due to the social climate changing, IDK. All I know is that you guys keep up these fun posts.


2016 (especially late 2016) here was mostly boring. I had more fun here during the summer of 2015, when I just joined here. Back when we had you, me,  mqg96, ocarinafan96 (before he was called ZeldaFan20), 2001 (before he became Slowpoke), and Infinity (for the most part).

Thanks bruv. I started this inthe00s.com revival along with my other 1999 born brothers 8) .

Yeah we've got a sh*t ton of 1999 born on this site. :o  I guess it will feel less weird in a few years. ;D

2016 (especially late 2016) here was mostly boring. I had more fun here during the summer of 2015, when I just joined here. Back when we had you, me,  mqg96, ocarinafan96 (before he was called ZeldaFan20), 2001 (before he became Slowpoke), and Infinity (for the most part).

Wait a minute?!!! ??? :o  Zeldafan is ocarinafan... :D  Mindblown.

Yeah we've got a sh*t ton of 1999 born on this site. :o  I guess it will feel less weird in a few years. ;D

Not only did we start the revival but we were all born by C-Section 8).

Yeah we've got a sh*t ton of 1999 born on this site. :o  I guess it will feel less weird in a few years. ;D


It will get weirder and weirder. By the time you are closer in age to 80's borns than the biggest birth year population (like it being 1999 now for an example), I just hope you don't start going gray.  ;)

Yeah we've got a sh*t ton of 1999 born on this site. :o  I guess it will feel less weird in a few years. ;D


Well, at least I don't feel lonely with 1999 babies. Back in 2015 and most of 2016, I felt like I was the only '99 baby around this forum. Then SharksFan99 came, which transitioned this site into being more with mid-late 90s babies.

It will get weirder and weirder. By the time you are closer in age to 80's borns than the biggest birth year population (like it being 1999 now for an example), I just hope you don't start going gray.  ;)

We will take over the world :).


Well, at least I don't feel lonely with 1999 babies. Back in 2015 and most of 2016, I felt like I was the only '99 baby around this forum. Then SharksFan99 came, which transitioned this site into being more with mid-late 90s babies.

I'm glad you're not lonely anymore brother ;).

I'm glad you're not lonely anymore brother ;).


Well, it didn't matter when I joined this site back in 2015. I just wanted a site that didn't despise me for liking the 2000s, which was a problem to me in the IGN Boards.

Well, it didn't matter when I joined this site back in 2015. I just wanted a site that didn't despise me for liking the 2000s, which was a problem to me in the IGN Boards.

That's OK. We're here now though 8).

Well, at least I don't feel lonely with 1999 babies. Back in 2015 and most of 2016, I felt like I was the only '99 baby around this forum. Then SharksFan99 came, which transitioned this site into being more with mid-late 90s babies.


I would have joined this forum a lot earlier if I had of been aware of it. If my memory serves me correctly, I think I became aware of inthe00s when mpq96 or ZeldaFan20 made a post on Personality Cafe and mentioned this forum. :)

Wait a minute?!!! ??? :o  Zeldafan is ocarinafan... :D  Mindblown.


DING DING DING!

Oh, when you walk by every night
Talking sweet and looking fine
I get kind of hectic inside
Oh, baby, I'm so into you
Darling if you only knew
All the things that flow through my mind

But it's just a sweet, sweet fantasy, baby
When I close my eyes you come and take me
On and on and on, it's so deep in my daydreams
But it's just a sweet, sweet fantasy, baby (fantasy)
(And I want you so bad)

I would have joined this forum a lot earlier if I had of been aware of it. If my memory serves me correctly, I think I became aware of inthe00s when mpq96 or ZeldaFan20 made a post on Personality Cafe and mentioned this forum. :)


I started to become aware with this forum in around November or December 2012, but people may find it funny how I registered to be here on January 12, 2017.

DING DING DING!

Welcome back buddy! :)  I guess you've been back, but man how did I not see it was you?! :D

I used to come here a long time ago with a guest account before I first made my account on here. Do they still have guest accounts? I believe they got rid of that feature and that's why I decided to make an account.  :P

I would have joined this forum a lot earlier if I had of been aware of it. If my memory serves me correctly, I think I became aware of inthe00s when mpq96 or ZeldaFan20 made a post on Personality Cafe and mentioned this forum. :)


I would've posted a link to InThe00s on Personality Cafe way back, but that was when I focused more on Personality Cafe back in 2016.

I started to become aware with this forum in around November or December 2012, but people may find it funny how I registered to be here on January 12, 2017.

Yeah same I started on this forum with a guest account in 2012 but didn't end up making an account until late 2012/early 2013.

I just learned about this site last month. Thanks to ZeldaFan20....I joined.

Welcome back buddy! :)  I guess you've been back, but man how did I not see it was you?! :D


I've been good! Just been working all weekend on college papers (its crunch time ;D). How about you?

I would have joined this forum a lot earlier if I had of been aware of it. If my memory serves me correctly, I think I became aware of inthe00s when mpq96 or ZeldaFan20 made a post on Personality Cafe and mentioned this forum. :)



I started to become aware with this forum in around November or December 2012, but people may find it funny how I registered to be here on January 12, 2017.
I have been aware of this site for 5 years, and it's amazing how many users I have seen come and go.

I've been good! Just been working all weekend on college papers (its crunch time ;D). How about you?

Thanks for making me join fam.

I've been good! Just been working all weekend on college papers (its crunch time ;D ). How about you?

Been VERY VERY busy with papers and essays!!! :o >:(  I got to deal with 2 more years of this crap! ;D ;D ;D
That's right, it looks like I may end up being a super senior! :o 8)

THIS. I'd have to agree out of all the cutoff points 1998 seems the most reasonable for the reasons I laid above. However, I do get where ReignMan99 is coming from that to cutoff at 1998 is kind of awkward since you would allow everybody born in the 90's to be Gen Y, but then all of a sudden leave 1999 out of out the picture. By this token I'm okay with extending the cutoff point a couple years to 2000.


And wasn't this where I started talking about halogens (like where you need one more electron to make a stable element)?

I compared the years 1990-1998 to be the seven electrons and 1999 to be the missing electron and how the halogen is very unstable, and if the one other electron is added (in this case, including 1999 in Gen Y), the element would be a stable, noble gas.

And wasn't this where I started talking about halogens (like where you need one more electron to make a stable element)?

However do you want me?
However do you need me?

Thanks for making me join fam.


No prob, thanks for joining!



Been VERY VERY busy with papers and essays!!! :o >:(  I got to deal with 2 more years of this crap! ;D ;D ;D
That's right, it looks like I may end up being a super senior! :o 8)


Damn that sounds rough! Yeah I might be graduating either in Fall of 2018 or Spring of 2019

No prob, thanks for joining!


Damn that sounds rough! Yeah I might be graduating either in Fall of 2018 or Spring of 2019


I never knew people could graduate college in Fall.

No prob, thanks for joining!


Damn that sounds rough! Yeah I might be graduating either in Fall of 2018 or Spring of 2019

Thanks.

Oh and my 4 years of college hasn't even begun yet :\'(.

I never knew people could graduate college in Fall.


Yeah if you get behind a certain semester (be it bad grades, taking a semester off, etc.) you could likely be able to graduate in the fall semester. Although depending on the school you may not have a dedicated graduation ceremony for fall students, so you'd either attend the Spring ceremony of the previous school year or the subsequent on of that same school year.

I started college in the 2014-2015 school year, however I took off from school during Fall of 2015 (to save up money, also trying to get my head straight on what major I wanted to do), I returned during the Spring 2016 semester. So the earliest I'll be able to graduate would be Fall of 2018

Damn that sounds rough! Yeah I might be graduating either in Fall of 2018 or Spring of 2019

Yeah bro, I'm gonna be pushing 25 when I'm done. :o :o :o

Yes but Gen X culture lasted until the late '90s and I have seen some 1984 and 1985 borns who feel like a mix of Gen X and Gen Y.
Bush 41's term was still dominated by Gen Y culture. Also, this is not about politics this is about...how many 1984 and 1985 feel as those they are a mix of Gen X and Gen Y.


But people born in 1965-1967 were young teens in Boomer culture. Yet people don't call them Boomer/X cuspers.

Yeah bro, I'm gonna be pushing 25 when I'm done. :o :o :o


Damn you're right :o. I'll be 22 or 23 by the time I graduate. Along with that I plan on going to grad school after I get my bachelors. So I'll be in my mid 20's by the time I'm officially done with schooling ;D



But people born in 1965-1967 were young teens in Boomer culture. Yet people don't call them Boomer/X cuspers.


I actually think those born in 1965-1966/7 are more Cuspy then one may give credit. They still lean more X though

But people born in 1965-1967 were young teens in Boomer culture. Yet people don't call them Boomer/X cuspers.

That's because Baby Boomer is a specific period in America history where the growth of babies were at a very high rate (1946-1964).

Also, I consider some 1965-1967 borns as Boomer and Gen X cuspers.

Damn you're right :o. I'll be 22 or 23 by the time I graduate. Along with that I plan on going to grad school after I get my bachelors. So I'll be in my mid 20's by the time I'm officially done with schooling ;D

If you don't mind telling me....what college do you attend?

If you don't mind telling me....what college do you attend?


LOL its all good, I attend Rutgers University. Its a state school from where I'm from (NJ). What schools are you currently looking into?

LOL its all good, I attend Rutgers University. Its a state school from where I'm from (NJ). What schools are you currently looking into?

I got accepted into Penn State (my #1 choice). However, Seton Hall (which is in NJ) has me on their waitlist :(.

I got accepted into Penn State (my #1 choice). However, Seton Hall (which is in NJ) has me on their waitlist :(.


Those are two great schools! If you do get accepted to Seton Hall I wouldn't hesitate in checking it out. I have plenty of friends that go there and they all love it. They also have a prestigious graduate level program for Medical School students and Law School students if you're looking into that for a career path. What part of the U.S are you from?

Those are two great schools! If you do get accepted to Seton Hall I wouldn't hesitate in checking it out. I have plenty of friends that go there and they all love it. They also have a prestigious graduate level program for Medical School students and Law School students if you're looking into that for a career path. What part of the U.S are you from?

That's awesome.

I'm from NYC :).

I notice the difference between them and most Xers to be fair but Boomer/X cuspers can be subjective. I consider the last "true" Boomers to be born in 1956 or maybe 1957 in some cases. What I hate about generations is that people assume you have to have a certain personality because you were born in a certain year. I can't relate to a lot of the conformity of the Millennials or their apathy either yet I'm Millennial.

That's OK. I was born in 1999 and it depends on who you ask on whether I'm a Millennial or not. It kind of sucks....the stereotypes that both generations have.

That's awesome.

I'm from NYC :).


That's cool! Was born in NYC. I moved to NJ when I was 9, been here ever since :)

That's cool! Was born in NYC. I moved to NJ when I was 9, been here ever since :)

I was born in Brooklyn....my mom and I moved away in 2000. Then, in August 2005 we came back to Brooklyn (and NYC). We've been back ever since :).

I was born in Switzerland and then moved to Taiwan in 1992, then moved to America in 1994.

I was born in Switzerland and then moved to Taiwan in 1992, then moved to America in 1994.

You're a 🌎 traveller ;).

You're a 🌎 traveller ;).


A circle traveler?

A circle traveler?

No, a world traveller ;D.

That's OK. I was born in 1999 and it depends on who you ask on whether I'm a Millennial or not. It kind of sucks....the stereotypes that both generations have.


What explains people who are different from their generation? I relate more to Z.

What explains people who are different from their generation? I relate more to Z.

You was born in 1986 and relate more to Gen Z? Wowza :o.

You was born in 1986 and relate more to Gen Z? Wowza :o.


How unusual is this?

How unusual is this?

Very unusual. Most 1986 borns identfiy as a Millennial and then a sizeable minority identifies as a either Gen X or a X/Y cusper.

You was born in 1986 and relate more to Gen Z? Wowza :o.


Very unusual. Most 1986 borns identfiy as a Millennial and then a sizeable minority identifies as a either Gen X or a X/Y cusper.

I think she identifies more with the traits that the media assigns to Gen Z (hard-working, fiscally conservative, frugal, risk-averse, etc.), unlike the comparatively negative traits the media assigns to Millennials (entitled, lazy, narcissistic, blah blah blah you've heard it all before).

I think she identifies more with the traits that the media assigns to Gen Z (hard-working, fiscally conservative, frugal, risk-averse, etc.), unlike the comparatively negative traits the media assigns to Millennials (entitled, lazy, narcissistic, blah blah blah you've heard it all before).


I relate to the Gen Z traits of being individualistic and OK with being different, unique, entrepreneurial, creative, technology-focused, wanting things now rather than later, and extremely future focused and visionary.

I think she identifies more with the traits that the media assigns to Gen Z (hard-working, fiscally conservative, frugal, risk-averse, etc.), unlike the comparatively negative traits the media assigns to Millennials (entitled, lazy, narcissistic, blah blah blah you've heard it all before).
Those traits are associated with Millennials as well. The entitled, lazy and narcissistic Yer is clearly a mythical person.

I think she identifies more with the traits that the media assigns to Gen Z (hard-working, fiscally conservative, frugal, risk-averse, etc.), unlike the comparatively negative traits the media assigns to Millennials (entitled, lazy, narcissistic, blah blah blah you've heard it all before).

Maybe, I guess but I'll just have to wait until she responds.


I relate to the Gen Z traits of being individualistic and OK with being different, unique, entrepreneurial, creative, technology-focused, wanting things now rather than later, and extremely future focused and visionary.

Well, you have responded. So you consider yourself as apart of the same generation as people born in 2004? :(.

Those traits are associated with Millennials as well. The entitled, lazy and narcissistic Yer is clearly a mythical person.

I agree.

Those traits are associated with Millennials as well. The entitled, lazy and narcissistic Yer is clearly a mythical person.


I agree.

Tell that to MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, and Classicrockforums.com.

Tell that to MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, and Classicrockforums.com.

Who are they? ???

I think she identifies more with the traits that the media assigns to Gen Z (hard-working, fiscally conservative, frugal, risk-averse, etc.), unlike the comparatively negative traits the media assigns to Millennials (entitled, lazy, narcissistic, blah blah blah you've heard it all before).


I want things fast and don't have patience to wait around. I want to advance fast, knock over structures, and have idealism. I'm a calculated extreme risk taker. Meaning I will take extreme risks when I calculate the outcome. I want to have it all.

On a generational test it said I had most in common with Boomers with how I was raised and how I act. But a lot of the descriptions of Gen Z match me. I have the same experiences as Millennials but the same experiences taught me different lessons. Like for them the 08 crash taught them to be careful to prevent it again. For me, it taught me there was no such thing as stability and that even doing the right thing can wreck you so you might as well take risks to the top.

Tell that to MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, and Classicrockforums.com.
I would definitely like to, but there's no way they would get ahold of that topic even if I were to send a message.

I want things fast and don't have patience to wait around. I want to advance fast, knock over structures, and have idealism. I'm a calculated extreme risk taker. Meaning I will take extreme risks when I calculate the outcome. I want to have it all.

On a generational test it said I had most in common with Boomers with how I was raised and how I act. But a lot of the descriptions of Gen Z match me. I have the same experiences as Millennials but the same experiences taught me different lessons. Like for them the 08 crash taught them to be careful to prevent it again. For me, it taught me there was no such thing as stability and that even doing the right thing can wreck you so you might as well take risks to the top.

So you would rather travel to the future than the past?

I would definitely like to, but there's no way they would get ahold of that topic even if I were to send a message.

Would they even care? :-\\

So you would rather travel to the future than the past?


I want to just skip this era and get to the good stuff. About risks, with my risks they're a mix of high risk and cautious, taking extreme actions that are usually well planned out and extremely calculated. They aren't made blindly.

I want things fast and don't have patience to wait around. I want to advance fast, knock over structures, and have idealism. I'm a calculated extreme risk taker. Meaning I will take extreme risks when I calculate the outcome. I want to have it all.

On a generational test it said I had most in common with Boomers with how I was raised and how I act. But a lot of the descriptions of Gen Z match me. I have the same experiences as Millennials but the same experiences taught me different lessons. Like for them the 08 crash taught them to be careful to prevent it again. For me, it taught me there was no such thing as stability and that even doing the right thing can wreck you so you might as well take risks to the top.


I'm a millennial and the recession taught me to live very frugally.  :-X IDK about Gen Z, weren't they too young to care about the recession?

I want to just skip this era and get to the good stuff.

Wow, so I imagine that "Year 3000" is your favorite song EVER! ;).

I'm a millennial and the recession taught me to live very frugally.  :-X IDK about Gen Z, weren't they too young to care about the recession?


Not if their families became poor from it. What generation do you think learned the same lesson I did about the recession? For me, I learned you often can't afford NOT to spend more because high risk means high reward. I either put all my poker chips in or put none in. I'm gonna have to take far more risks to get the same returns people did in the go-go 80s and 90s.

Would they even care? :-\\
Yeah. The Millennials seem to somewhat be in their mind, but they are acknowledging that some are in their 30s.


I want to just skip this era and get to the good stuff. About risks, with my risks they're a mix of high risk and cautious, taking extreme actions that are usually well planned out and extremely calculated. They aren't made blindly.
Well I don't blame you if this decade's culture is awful. It's been somewhat that way for some time. Hopefully the 2020s will be amazing.

Wow, so I imagine that "Year 3000" is your favorite song EVER! ;).


I like this song as depressing as it is izQB2-Kmiic

Wow, so I imagine that "Year 3000" is your favorite song EVER! ;).


What generation do I seem to act to you? I'm not so sure.

I believe I am more like Gen X than those silly millennials.

Yeah. The Millennials seem to somewhat be in their mind, but they are acknowledging that some are in their 30s.

Well I don't blame you if this decade's culture is awful. It's been somewhat that way for some time. Hopefully the 2020s will be amazing.

Maybe, they will care...probably not though.

Oh and yes, I hope the 2020s are better than now.

I believe I am more like Gen X than those silly millennials.

You're one year away from being Gen X so, you'd probably feel a lot closer to them. If you want to be Gen X, call yourself Gen X.

I like this song as depressing as it is izQB2-Kmiic

LOL, OK.


What generation do I seem to act to you? I'm not so sure.

You seem to be convential Gen Y to me.


I believe I am more like Gen X than those silly millennials.

You're trying to run away from me, are you? :(

LOL, OK.
You seem to be convential Gen Y to me.
You're trying to run away from me, are you? :(


What do you see as Gen Y? For me I see 80s born Millennials up to 1988 as Gen Y which are the older Millennials.

Not if their families became poor from it. What generation do you think learned the same lesson I did about the recession? For me, I learned you often can't afford NOT to spend more because high risk means high reward. I either put all my poker chips in or put none in. I'm gonna have to take far more risks to get the same returns people did in the go-go 80s and 90s.


I don't do poker, that's crazy! ;D

I invest my savings, enough to max out my TFSAs (like 401k in the US). It's my dad that's managing it for me atm, he puts it in index funds. I'm trying to learn more about finance myself. If I really get into it, I might try out riskier stocks.  :o

Oh yeah, some retirement too. I have to meet an accountant though, the tax rates confuse the F out of me!!

You're one year away from being Gen X so, you'd probably feel a lot closer to them. If you want to be Gen X, call yourself Gen X.


I will. 8)


You're trying to run away from me, are you? :(


Of course not. I'm just joining with my true generation, the ones that call themselves "X". 8)

I don't do poker, that's crazy! ;D

I invest my savings, enough to max out my TFSAs (like 401k in the US). It's my dad that's managing it for me atm, he puts it in index funds. I'm trying to learn more about finance myself. If I really get into it, I might try out riskier stocks.  :o

Oh yeah, some retirement too. I have to meet an accountant though, the tax rates confuse the F out of me!!


What's it mean if I literally or figuratively bank on one or two things in an extreme way to get ahead faster?

What do you see as Gen Y? For me I see 80s born Millennials up to 1988 as Gen Y which are the older Millennials.

I see people born 1982-2000 as Gen Y.


Of course not. I'm just joining with my true generation, the ones that call themselves "X". 8)

*sigh*

Does it have to come to this?  :-\\

What's it mean if I literally or figuratively bank on one or two things in an extreme way to get ahead faster?


From a Google search, it looks the opposite of diversification is "concentrated investment".

For what it's worth, I know and have met several 1997-borns these past few years and I definitely do get a very Y vibe from them. They had a different childhood experience than older and prime Yers, but I find that we share a lot in common socially.

On the other hand, I haven't met too many 1998 kids and don't think that I've ever had a personal conversation with someone born in 1999. And I don't know about 2000-2001, but 2002 and onwards is most definitely full Z.

For what it's worth, I know and have met several 1997-borns these past few years and I definitely do get a very Y vibe from them. They had a different childhood experience than older and prime Yers, but I find that we share a lot in common socially.

On the other hand, I haven't met too many 1998 kids and don't think that I've ever had a personal conversation with someone born in 1999. And I don't know about 2000-2001, but 2002 and onwards is most definitely full Z.

Hello....👋 I'm right here.

Hello....👋 I'm right here.


I meant in person.

I used to think that 1995-1997 was Y/Z cusp, but now I realize that they're just very young, post-core Millennials. Time will tell if that's extended to 1998-2000/01. I think it will. I mean, if we refer to 1979 as "Gen X" rather than "X/Y cusp," then 1999 should simply be known as "Gen Y."

I meant in person.

You can still ask me personal questions about my childhood.

You can still ask me personal questions about my childhood.


It's not really about person-specific childhood so much as it's just the year you were born and the era in which you grew up. Ultimately, I think 1999ers will eventually be considered plain Y without the "cusp" label, even if it's true.

It's not really about person-specific childhood so much as it's just the year you were born and the era in which you grew up. Ultimately, I think 1999ers will eventually be considered plain Y without the "cusp" label, even if it's true.

Well, I hope that happens so people can stop thinking that I had a similar childhood with a 2005 born, for example.

Well, I hope that happens so people can stop thinking that I had a similar childhood with a 2005 born, for example.


I don't think that's an issue. Nobody would ever refer to a 2005-born as a Y/Z cusp.

The biggest argument against 1999ers as Gen Y is not being old enough to remember 9/11, THE defining event of Gen Y's childhood and adolescence.

I don't think that's an issue. Nobody would ever refer to a 2005-born as a Y/Z cusp.

The biggest argument against 1999ers as Gen Y is not being old enough to remember 9/11, THE defining event of Gen Y's childhood and adolescence.

Personally as a '99er....I find the "Can you remember 9/11? or else" situation to be annoying and frustrating.

Anyways, no there are definitely lots of people who think us '99ers grew up with social media being everywhere, having smartphones, etc.

Personally as a '99er....I find the "Can you remember 9/11? or else" situation to be annoying and frustrating.

Anyways, no there are definitely lots of people who think us '99ers grew up with social media being everywhere, having smartphones, etc.


I think it's a big deal, certainly bigger than the Kennedy assassination and Challenger disaster, but not the be-all and end-all.

Regarding your second point, I can sort of see where your disagreement lies. I would say you guys mostly grew up in the Web 2.0 era and had childhoods that had some overlap with the rise of social media and smartphones. On the other hand, you guys were basically teenagers when the 10s culture really kicked in.

I think it's a big deal, certainly bigger than the Kennedy assassination and Challenger disaster, but not the be-all and end-all.

Regarding your second point, I can sort of see where your disagreement lies. I would say you guys mostly grew up in the Web 2.0 era and had childhoods that had some overlap with the rise of social media and smartphones. On the other hand, you guys were basically teenagers when the 10s culture really kicked in.

9/11 is a big deal but if it was the be all end all for Gen Y....then Gen Y would end at 1993 or 1994.

Also, us 99ers also never had smartphones when we were 4 or 5....yes some of us got them when we were 11-14 in the early 2010s (2010-2013) but that's different we were out of our core childhoods then. Also, the modern social media craze started in the very late 2000s and early 2010s...once again, we were basically out of our core childhoods.

9/11 is a big deal but if it was the be all end all for Gen Y....then Gen Y would end at 1993 or 1994.

Also, us 99ers also never had smartphones when we were 4 or 5....yes some of us got them when we were 11-14 in the early 2010s (2010-2013) but that's different we were out of our core childhoods then. Also, the modern social media craze started in the very late 2000s and early 2010s...once again, we were basically out of our core childhoods.


Well, personally, I think 1994 is the last of *core* Gen Y. I still see 1995-1997 as very Y, just not quite core.

A core Millennial has all the following traits:

1) Was enrolled in the school system during 1999-2000
2) Old enough to remember 9/11 and at least somewhat understand why it was a big deal
3) Witnessed the transition from 20th century to 21st century, pre-9/11 world to post-9/11 world
4) Grew up alongside the Internet (Web 1.0)
5) Remembers VHS before DVD
6) Didn't get first cell phone until adolescence

Post-core Millennials had a different childhood experience than that, but they definitely did grow up in the 00s.

Well, personally, I think 1994 is the last of *core* Gen Y. I still see 1995-1997 as very Y, just not quite core.

A core Millennial has all the following traits:

1) Was enrolled in the school system during 1999-2000
2) Old enough to remember 9/11 and at least somewhat understand why it was a big deal
3) Witnessed the transition from 20th century to 21st century, pre-9/11 world to post-9/11 world
4) Grew up alongside the Internet (Web 1.0)
5) Remembers VHS before DVD
6) Didn't get first cell phone until adolescence

Post-core Millennials had a different childhood experience than that, but they definitely did grow up in the 00s.

So in your view am I "Post-core Millennial"?

So in your view am I "Post-core Millennial"?


Yes. The quintessential Millennials were born 10 years earlier than you.

Yes. The quintessential Millennials were born 10 years earlier than you.

OK, I understand that.

I actually think those born in 1965-1966/7 are more Cuspy then one may give credit. They still lean more X though


That's interesting, because my Dad was born in 1967, but he is about as Gen X as you can get.

My dad was born in 1967 and he's definitely not a boomer cusp. He HATES Boomers (as a whole, not individually). ;D

He does listen to a lot of Boomer music though, i.e. The Who and Billy Joel.


My Dad does as well, particularly 60s music.

Boomer music is great and timeless.

My mom was born in 1969 but her favorite music isn't 80s stuff as you'd expect. She mostly likes 70s classic rock, soul, funk, and disco and hates 80s music, with the exception of the early 80s.


Starship >>>>> Jefferson Starship/Airplane

Boomer music is great and timeless.

My mom was born in 1969 but her favorite music isn't 80s stuff as you'd expect. She mostly likes 70s classic rock, soul, funk, and disco and hates 80s music, with the exception of the early 80s.


The early Gen Xers I know (1965-1972 borns) are very obsessed with all things 80s.

My dad (born 1967) loves the 80s.

My mom (born 1969) HATES the 80s.

....and my mother born in 1963 loves the 1980s.

My Mum (born 1964) likes 70s classic rock and 90s music.

My Dad (born 1967) likes 60s music, 70s classic rock and 90s music.

They're not bothered about 80s music.

Does your mom consider herself a boomer or an Xer?

My Mum (born 1964) likes 70s classic rock and 90s music.

My Dad (born 1967) likes 60s music, 70s classic rock and 90s music.

They're not bothered about 80s music.


Does your mom consider herself a Boomer?

Does your mom consider herself a Boomer?

But he's Australian? :(

But he's Australian? :(


Yeah but a lot of culture spreads to different countries.

Yeah but a lot of culture spreads to different countries.

Yes but Baby Boomer is a UNIQUELY American classification. An Australian born from 1946-1964 can not be considered a Baby Boomer.

Does your mom consider herself a boomer or an Xer?



Does your mom consider herself a Boomer?


A Gen Xer. When I told her once that people her age are viewed as being "Baby Boomers", she was disappointed. :P


Yes but Baby Boomer is a UNIQUELY American classification. An Australian born from 1946-1964 can not be considered a Baby Boomer.


We use the exact same generation labels and boundaries.

We use the exact same generation labels and boundaries.

That's weird because Baby Boomer really is related to American history. But whatever....:-\\.

That's weird because Baby Boomer really is related to American history. But whatever....:-\\.


The term "Baby Boomer" is used in the UK and other western countries as well.

The term "Baby Boomer" is used in the UK and other western countries as well.

Yeah, that's kind of weird because there was no baby boom in the UK, Australia and "other western countries" from 1946-1964 :-\\.

A Gen Xer. When I told her once that people her age are viewed as being "Baby Boomers", she was disappointed. :P


What age range does she consider Boomers?

What age range does she consider Boomers?


I'm not sure, to be honest. My Mum's fiance' was born in 1962 and he also views himself as being a Gen Xer. However, I personally think people born in 1962 (or Early 60s babies in general) are solidly late Baby Boomers. I have an uncle who was also born in 1962 and both him and my Mum's fiance' fell out of touch with music in the Early 90s. They never got into Grunge or 90s alternative music. They're generally only nostalgic for the 70s and 80s.

I'm not sure, to be honest. My Mum's fiance' was born in 1962 and he also views himself as being a Gen Xer. However, I personally think people born in 1962 (or Early 60s babies in general) are solidly late Baby Boomers. I have an uncle who was also born in 1962 and both him and my Mum's fiance' fell out of touch with music in the Early 90s. They never got into Grunge or 90s alternative music. They're generally only nostalgic for the 70s and 80s.


I agree. Plus they didn't graduate in the core 80s. 1980 is a very 70s year. They also remember the 60s far too much to be Gen Xers.

Me too, I also saw The Andy Griffith Show and Matlock when I was younger....I'm obviously a spiritual Baby Boomer 8).


But how could you? You were too young to remember them.  ::)

I just learned about this site last month. Thanks to ZeldaFan20....I joined.



I learned about this site 17 years ago. ;)

I was born in Switzerland and then moved to Taiwan in 1992, then moved to America in 1994.


I've been living in America for the past 43 years.

Boomer music is great and timeless.

My mom was born in 1969 but her favorite music isn't 80s stuff as you'd expect. She mostly likes 70s classic rock, soul, funk, and disco and hates 80s music, with the exception of the early 80s.


My Mother was born in 1945 and she likes Doo-Wop.

My mom was born in 1969 but her favorite music isn't 80s stuff as you'd expect. She mostly likes 70s classic rock, soul, funk, and disco and hates 80s music, with the exception of the early 80s.


I can understand that. My mom was born in 1968 and while she loves '80s music, she loves '70s stuff just about as much.

Despite the fact that we are often most associated with the music that popular during our teen years, I don't think it's uncommon at all for people to feel a connection with music that was popular during their childhood. Even though I do like '00s music, I also like '90s music, and feel that I "grew up" listening to it (particularly anything after the peak of Grunge), even though I was just a kid. Mid '90s music is the first that I can actually remember listening to at the time that it was popular, and so it has a special place in my heart, and most late '80s babies I talk to feel the same way. Pretty music anything that was big after Kurt Cobain died in April 1994 I consider part of "my time".

I wonder, as a 1995er, do you have a similar connection to early '00s music, or were you not really into music at that time?

I can understand that. My mom was born in 1968 and while she loves '80s music, she loves '70s stuff just about as much.

Despite the fact that we are often most associated with the music that popular during our teen years, I don't think it's uncommon at all for people to feel a connection with music that was popular during their childhood. Even though I do like '00s music, I also like '90s music, and feel that I "grew up" listening to it (particularly anything after the peak of Grunge), even though I was just a kid. Mid '90s music is the first that I can actually remember listening to at the time that it was popular, and so it has a special place in my heart, and most late '80s babies I talk to feel the same way. Pretty music anything that was big after Kurt Cobain died in April 1994 I consider part of "my time".

I wonder, as a 1995er, do you have a similar connection to early '00s music, or were you not really into music at that time?


Out of all people like Zelek, he probably did have an introduction towards early '00s music from whatever he watched. Much like how I was vaguely into mainstream music in the mid 2000s, while I was more into it by late 2006/early 2007 as a kid.

But how could you? You were too young to remember them.  ::)

The POWER of SYNDICATION! 8)

I can understand that. My mom was born in 1968 and while she loves '80s music, she loves '70s stuff just about as much.

Despite the fact that we are often most associated with the music that popular during our teen years, I don't think it's uncommon at all for people to feel a connection with music that was popular during their childhood. Even though I do like '00s music, I also like '90s music, and feel that I "grew up" listening to it (particularly anything after the peak of Grunge), even though I was just a kid. Mid '90s music is the first that I can actually remember listening to at the time that it was popular, and so it has a special place in my heart, and most late '80s babies I talk to feel the same way. Pretty music anything that was big after Kurt Cobain died in April 1994 I consider part of "my time".

I wonder, as a 1995er, do you have a similar connection to early '00s music, or were you not really into music at that time?

My mother born in 1963 loves 1980s music but she also has a soft spot for 1970s music. She was 7-16 during the '70s and 17-26 during the '80s.

I personally as a '99er like a lot of 2000s music but I prefer 1990s music (particularly from 1990-1995/1996) better. I don't like much 2010s music and I'm a "core" 2010s teen.

My mom born in the late 50's and step dad born in the early 60's loves the 60's, 70's & 80's. They were never a big fan of music from the 90's, although my step-dad was into a little bit of Grunge and Gangsta Rap.

For my mom, she enjoys 70s music though today while my dad likes 70s-00s, but for of them it depends on the genre.


When it comes to cutoff dates for the Millennial generation, the ones that end with an even number tend to be the most suitable.

1994: Mainly because:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 1999 and enter compulsory school right before Y2K while when internet adoption rates were under 50%

-they were ages 7/8 (their childhood peaks, also when they enter the concrete operational stage) in 2001-2002 thus making them to last be able to fully remember and comprehend the full impact of 9/11

-they were the last to enter their teens during the core 2000's, the year 2007

-were the last to be old enough to vote (if they so wished to) for Obama, also last to come of age before the Y/Z Cultural transition (2013-2017)


1996: mainly:

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods in 2001 and enter compulsory school before 9/11

-they were the last to be in their peak childhoods during the last 100% Y kid oriented cultural school year in 2003-2004

-they were the last to enter their teens in the 2000's

-they were the last to be in their peak youthful periods (entirety aged 9-24, peaking 16-17) in pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013 (right before the Y/Z transition)

-they were the last to come of age in the first half of the 2010's and vote in the 2014 election, this all pre 2016/Trump era politics


1998 mainly:

-they were the last to have possibly 'vague' memories of 9/11 and or a pre 9/11 world

-the last to be in their core childhoods in the Y era of kids culture during 2003-2004, and to spend a significant amount of time during Y culture with their childhoods peaking in 2005-2006 which was the ultimate Y/Z cusp school year pertaining to kid culture

-the last to be in high school during the pure Y youth culture in 2012-2013

-the last to be at the peak of their youth when culture slightly leaned more Y in 2014-2015

-the last to come of age in the liberal 'Millennial' era of the mid 2010's in 2016, before Trump came into office, also the youngest to vote for Trump or Hillary in 2016


Finally you have 2000 mainly:

-they were the last to be born in the 20th century

-going with the generally accepted 1982-2000 definition, 2000 being the end coincides with the Chinese Zodiac in similarity to the Baby Boomers being 1946-1964

-they were the last to be in their core childhoods when Y kid culture was at least 50% influential to pop culture in the 2005-2006 school year

-the last to spend most of their core childhoods prior to the 2008 financial crisis, being at their core as ages 7/8 in 2007-2008 right before
the storm (although this was when we were 100% deep into Z kid culture by then)

-the last to be enter their youth period in the 2000's, at age 9

-the last to become teens in the early 10's

-the last to spend most of their 'youth', aka ages 16-17, during the liberal political era that Millennials came of age in, during 2016-2017 (although pop culturally things started to swing more Z by this point)

So from a political standpoint it seems like 2000 borns (ironically) are the last to have a stereotypical Y up brining, as in having most of their childhoods prior to the 2008 financial crisis, and having most of their youth before Trump became president. However, culturally they would be the first to have a stereotypical Z upbringing such as having most of their core childhoods when Z kid culture was relevant, and having the peak of their youth in 2016-2017 when Z youth culture is now relevant and they will continue to be in their youths well into the 2020's).

So from a political/demographic standpoint, 2000 seems to be the most reasonable cutoff point, 1998 is reasonable from both a cultural and demographic standpoint despite them being massively cuspy as well. Those born in from 1995-1997/8 are safely Y (despite having a few Z influences), and those born in 1994 & before (like till the early 80's) are unequivocally Y.

In short 1994, 1996, 1998, & 2000 seem to be the most balanced cutoff years. I agree with Zelek that 1997 really isn't a noteworthy cutoff year.
Great post and listing reasons why each of these could potentially be the last year for Millennials. I really want to say 2000 is best one (MO), but with research and evidence (The facts), I doubt that will be the case.

Oh, and if anyone wants to know, I have family and friends that span the age of Zelek and Eric to 2000; however, some of them don't recall some things such as 9/11, VHS, dial-up, etc.