I'm aware this is too early since the decade hasn't ended yet, but lets say if people in the future were discussing this era, what myths many might have about this period?

If only we have more threads like this instead of '2004 was a lot like 1984'.

Nice one, UltraGameDog!

^^^^ Looks like a modern schoolhouse rock profile picture you have there Mansion.

^^^^ Looks like a modern schoolhouse rock profile picture you have there Mansion.


Yes, LOL. I'm not sure what it is, but TY.

I'm aware this is too early since the decade hasn't ended yet, but lets say if people in the future were discussing this era, what myths many might have about this period?

Some folks think the 2010s are exactly the same as the 2000s and the 21st century has no identity.

Well, that's false to me. For one the 00s didn't have Internet memes influencing reality.

Whatever, it's probably Redditors and Facebookers who think everything after the 90s sucks, because their childhoods are over, and as we all know, nothing good comes after childhood. :P

Thinking the early 10s were nothing but utopia and glorious. :-X  That was CERTAINLY not the case from my experience. :( >:( :\'(  Then again I'm letting my personal life dictate that tho. ::)

Some folks think the 2010s are exactly the same as the 2000s and the 21st century has no identity.

Well, that's false to me. For one the 00s didn't have Internet memes influencing reality.

Whatever, it's probably Redditors and Facebookers who think everything after the 90s sucks, because their childhoods are over, and as we all know, nothing good comes after childhood. :P

A bunch of outta touch people think those eras go together :o, that is defiantly not true ;D, technically speaking probably but culturally that's not true at all...

Thinking the early 10s were nothing but utopia and glorious. :-X  That was CERTAINLY not the case from my experience. :( >:( :\'(  Then again I'm letting my personal life dictate that tho. ::)

Nobody here says that, we just think it had a more optimistic vibe than the mid 2010s. And it's true, it did. The mid 2010s have more of a divisive feeling to them.

That there is a lot of crime or reasons to feel unsafe.

That smartphones or social media are killing socializing.

That things are more politically correct than before, quite the opposite.

That Ariana Grande is anywhere near top-tier in terms of relevance.

That Adele's music doesn't put people to sleep.

That Pitbull is popular or relevant.

That 2010s fashion doesn't slay your trashy faves.

That's all for now.

Some folks think the 2010s are exactly the same as the 2000s and the 21st century has no identity.


I think this is the case in a stylistic sense, in the look of things, design, fashion, music, ect.

It's like stylistic change plateaued around the mid/late 1990s, many people on this forum are so young that they don't have perspective to compare two very different stylistic decades. For instance in the actual '90s the 1970s looked completely outdated and ridiculous, I remember looking at my parent's '70s high school year books in the late 1990s and being like, "wha the heck".

The same thing cannot be said from a year book from 1997 or 1998 and 2017. In fact you can do this with ANY 20 year period during the 20th century, something is seriously wrong with our culture, I'm starting to think we are in terminal cultural decline.

I think this is the case in a stylistic sense, in the look of things, design, fashion, music, ect.

It's like stylistic change plateaued around the mid/late 1990s, many people on this forum are so young that they don't have perspective to compare two very different stylistic decades. For instance in the actual '90s the 1970s looked completely outdated and ridiculous, I remember looking at my parent's '70s high school year books in the late 1990s and being like, "wha the heck".

The same thing cannot be said from a year book from 1997 or 1998 and 2017. In fact you can do this with ANY 20 year period during the 20th century, something is seriously wrong with our culture, I'm starting to think we are in terminal cultural decline.


Hmm, you said we're too young, but weren't you also kind of young in the late 1990s to be making a '70s comparison? ;D

My cousin's cousin in born 2000. I was looking at our late' 90s/early 2000s childhood pictures with my cousin, and he was there too and he commented "why are you guys dressed so baggy? You look crazy!". I think the reason you and I don't find 1997 and 2017 all that different is because we actually lived through them, so they don't feel otherworldly. Kids born after 1997 would react very differently.

I'm aware this is too early since the decade hasn't ended yet, but lets say if people in the future were discussing this era, what myths many might have about this period?

That it's the millennial heyday and everything from man buns and skinny jeans to hipster fashion, deconstructed food, social justice whiners, safe spaces, bad dye jobs, and bad music sums up people in their early twenties to late teens exactly. There's more variety than this and it's only a fraction of that age group who fit a particular description.

That Pitbull is popular or relevant.


https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif

I think this is the case in a stylistic sense, in the look of things, design, fashion, music, ect.

It's like stylistic change plateaued around the mid/late 1990s, many people on this forum are so young that they don't have perspective to compare two very different stylistic decades. For instance in the actual '90s the 1970s looked completely outdated and ridiculous, I remember looking at my parent's '70s high school year books in the late 1990s and being like, "wha the heck".

The same thing cannot be said from a year book from 1997 or 1998 and 2017. In fact you can do this with ANY 20 year period during the 20th century, something is seriously wrong with our culture, I'm starting to think we are in terminal cultural decline.

Yeah I agree with you. It seems like technology has replaced culture.

That it's the millennial heyday and everything from man buns and skinny jeans to hipster fashion, deconstructed food, social justice whiners, safe spaces, bad dye jobs, and bad music sums up people in their early twenties to late teens exactly. There's more variety than this and it's only a fraction of that age group who fit a particular description.


It really depends on where you live. I'm from the Bay Area, and everything you listed perfectly describes the millennials around here (except for deconstructed food). Where I'm from, several (in some cases all) of these attributes could be applied to almost everyone in that age group. There are very few, such as myself, that don't share any of these attributes. People like that are a small percentage around here. Perhaps it's different where you live, but the Bay Area is a culture of conformity.

It really depends on where you live. I'm from the Bay Area, and everything you listed perfectly describes the millennials around here (except for deconstructed food). Where I'm from, several (in some cases all) of these attributes could be applied to almost everyone in that age group. There are very few, such as myself, that don't share any of these attributes. People like that are a small percentage around here. Perhaps it's different where you live, but the Bay Area is a culture of conformity.


We used to be the best area but then the hipsters took over and I can't even walk into Circle-A without seeing at least 3 man-buns!!

It really depends on where you live. I'm from the Bay Area, and everything you listed perfectly describes the millennials around here (except for deconstructed food). Where I'm from, several (in some cases all) of these attributes could be applied to almost everyone in that age group. There are very few, such as myself, that don't share any of these attributes. People like that are a small percentage around here. Perhaps it's different where you live, but the Bay Area is a culture of conformity.

I'm talking as a whole, not specific areas where a trend might be really big. Around here that's not the majority at all.

Well, by far the most obvious from my perspective: that the decade saw a true spike in diversity and cultural acceptance, even prior to the election of Trump. It's okay to be a lesbian, so long as you reject traditional femininity and get hip with the times. If you dare try to be yourself, you will get nothing but shame, ridicule, loneliness, isolation, and the constant lingering question of why you're still even here.

Seriously though, there's little reason for me to even question the 2010s anymore. My voice isn't ever going to be heard or appreciated by another charming woman, I'm just stuck in the dust constantly wishing I lived in a different universe, one which doesn't make me feel nonexistent for being a girly girl who just happens to like other girls. I want to find joy, but the emotional scars left by this age's manipulations, deceit, shallowness, and mayhem have just about killed off what little direction I feel I still have. I just want to find and marry the woman of my dreams and start a family someday, not feel like the constant subject of the wet dreams of perverted men who get turned on by romantic interaction between two women who don't even like them anyway.

It really depends on where you live. I'm from the Bay Area, and everything you listed perfectly describes the millennials around here (except for deconstructed food). Where I'm from, several (in some cases all) of these attributes could be applied to almost everyone in that age group. There are very few, such as myself, that don't share any of these attributes. People like that are a small percentage around here. Perhaps it's different where you live, but the Bay Area is a culture of conformity.


It's all true for me as well :-X

Okay, not the ones related to hair :-X

That it's the millennial heyday and everything from man buns and skinny jeans to hipster fashion, deconstructed food, social justice whiners, safe spaces, bad dye jobs, and bad music sums up people in their early twenties to late teens exactly. There's more variety than this and it's only a fraction of that age group who fit a particular description.
I agree very well that this will most likely end up as a myth. This generation is FAR from the the typical Millennial description. In fact, we're all diverse as much as the previous generations who were also all badly stereotyped.


Well, by far the most obvious from my perspective: that the decade saw a true spike in diversity and cultural acceptance, even prior to the election of Trump. It's okay to be a lesbian, so long as you reject traditional femininity and get hip with the times. If you dare try to be yourself, you will get nothing but shame, ridicule, loneliness, isolation, and the constant lingering question of why you're still even here.
This too! In fact, this decade was far from acceptance. If there was true inclusion, then there wouldn't have been so much divisiveness among all groups.


It really depends on where you live. I'm from the Bay Area, and everything you listed perfectly describes the millennials around here (except for deconstructed food). Where I'm from, several (in some cases all) of these attributes could be applied to almost everyone in that age group. There are very few, such as myself, that don't share any of these attributes. People like that are a small percentage around here. Perhaps it's different where you live, but the Bay Area is a culture of conformity.



We used to be the best area but then the hipsters took over and I can't even walk into Circle-A without seeing at least 3 man-buns!!
I'm with Katana. The Millennial you both described is definitely in the minority. Most people in this generation are actually normal folks with jobs, careers and and some even have families. In addition, there are Millennials who are conservative, religious, LGBT, tough, have good taste in music and even want to advocate for civil rights the right way. Heck, there's also Millennials in their 30s! Unfortunately, these people are NEVER represented and it's sad.

It really depends on where you live. I'm from the Bay Area, and everything you listed perfectly describes the millennials around here (except for deconstructed food). Where I'm from, several (in some cases all) of these attributes could be applied to almost everyone in that age group. There are very few, such as myself, that don't share any of these attributes. People like that are a small percentage around here. Perhaps it's different where you live, but the Bay Area is a culture of conformity.


Blech! Thanks for being different from them. I see nothing wrong with conformity in itself, but too much can makes me question society's acceptance of individuality.

Blech! Thanks for being different from them. I see nothing wrong with conformity in itself, but too much can makes me question society's acceptance of individuality.


Conformity is good as long as people are conforming to the truth :-X *hides*

How come everyone is stealing my avatar idea? Come up with your own ideas you crooks!!!

Seriously though, there's little reason for me to even question the 2010s anymore. My voice isn't ever going to be heard or appreciated by another charming woman, I'm just stuck in the dust constantly wishing I lived in a different universe, one which doesn't make me feel nonexistent for being a girly girl who just happens to like other girls. I want to find joy, but the emotional scars left by this age's manipulations, deceit, shallowness, and mayhem have just about killed off what little direction I feel I still have. I just want to find and marry the woman of my dreams and start a family someday, not feel like the constant subject of the wet dreams of perverted men who get turned on by romantic interaction between two women who don't even like them anyway.


I might be stepping into a sensitive topic here, but what's wrong with straight guys watching lesbian porn, as long as they don't oogle or harass lesbians in real life? Emphasis on the "what", I'm genuinely curious. :(

I can't say much about the rest... but, I remember you saying you found someone? It didn't work out? :(

How come everyone is stealing my avatar idea? Come up with your own ideas you crooks!!!


http://www.inthe00s.com/avatars_custom/avatar_20302_1483281844.png

Conformity is good as long as people are conforming to the truth :-X *hides*


Although you're joking, and it's funny, LOL. There's a lot of truth in what you said.
If you want to conform because you like something, and not doing it to please someone else, that's a very honest
way to live. Like you said, truth! Live your truth.

How come everyone is stealing my avatar idea? Come up with your own ideas you crooks!!!


Mine was on accident. I couldn't find another avatar I found that I liked, and I suck at technology, and gadgets, and stuff, LOL. So I settled with this avatar.  ;D  ;D

I might be stepping into a sensitive topic here, but what's wrong with straight guys watching lesbian porn, as long as they don't oogle or harass lesbians in real life? Emphasis on the "what", I'm genuinely curious. :(

I can't say much about the rest... but, I remember you saying you found someone? It didn't work out? :(


This reminds me. I gotta buy more hair gel and face wash!

Although you're joking, and it's funny, LOL. There's a lot of truth in what you said.
If you want to conform because you like something, and not doing it to please someone else, that's a very honest
way to live. Like you said, truth! Live your truth.


I'm only a weak relativist. *starts philosophical discussion*

I'm only a weak relativist. *starts philosophical discussion*


That's too deep for this time of night, for me.  ;D

It's like 11:20 PM from where I'm from.

I misunderstood the 2010's, I thought I knew thee!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nk8dZprj5f8/hqdefault.jpg

http://www.inthe00s.com/avatars_custom/avatar_20302_1483281844.png


I did it first. ::)


Mine was on accident. I couldn't find another avatar I found that I liked, and I suck at technology, and gadgets, and stuff, LOL. So I settled with this avatar.  ;D  ;D


What can you do! The pink one, he's a crook! Just like my opponent in the 2016 race, Hillary Clinton.

I did it first. ::)

What can you do! The pink one, he's a crook! Just like my opponent in the 2016 race, Hillary Clinton.


You're a puppet!

I did it first. ::)

What can you do! The pink one, he's a crook! Just like my opponent in the 2016 race, Hillary Clinton.


I thought that was Richard Nixon! :.ducks:.

I might be stepping into a sensitive topic here, but what's wrong with straight guys watching lesbian porn, as long as they don't oogle or harass lesbians in real life? Emphasis on the "what", I'm genuinely curious. :(

Well, you know how feminists are sick of being treated as little more than sexual objects? I'd argue that this issue is by far at its worst for lipstick lesbians like myself. If you're a lesbian who actually prefers to present as most straight women do, you automatically become the subject of horny male fetishes rather than a serious, legitimate individual.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/THpwRWeKojY/maxresdefault.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAGxK7i2E4g

I would argue that it's primarily due to the subversive effects of the media's exploitation of feminine lesbians that the lesbian community itself feels the need to present like this just to feel independent:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/8b/e0/7f/8be07f36056a502fa10a4cc2da7623c0.jpg

Otherwise, if you're wearing a dress, have long hair, and no tattoos or piercings on your body, then most likely you're just part of a porno or something. As a result, I essentially don't feel like I have a home. If there's a sub community of lesbians like myself, who don't personally view dresses, makeup, and softness as imposed traits of oppression but rather genuine parts of who they are, I'd sure love to know about it.

I can't say much about the rest... but, I remember you saying you found someone? It didn't work out? :(


Thought I found someone. I'm pretty much certain it was just the drawn-out fabrication of some loser adolescent who thought lesbians are hot. This person's phone has been off since November 17. Can you understand a lot better now my point above? This type of crap is all too common, in which boys profess themselves as girls on dating sites just to be a part of a lipstick lesbian experience, while pretty much the only real lesbians you find online are the stereotypes with whom I share no rapport.

Tattoos. Why has everyone tattoos suddenly?

OK, that's maybe exaggerated, but I don't understand. I still find it really distracting and unaesthetical,
and really, I don't think one is being original with a huge flower on the neck. You can call it self expression what you want,
your choice, though I think you are just following the crowd.

Summary: I don't like these things, others decide for yourself.

I would say the biggest one is that more celebrities died in 2016 than ANY OTHER YEAR...

The thing is the trend has been that way for over 17 years now... the thing that made 2016 different is 16 what Wikipedia says are "Super Celebrities" died in 2016. A massive increase to 2015s 4. Its not that more celebrities are dying... its just ones we knew very well happen to have the bad luck of dying at around the same time.

Well, you know how feminists are sick of being treated as little more than sexual objects? I'd argue that this issue is by far at its worst for lipstick lesbians like myself. If you're a lesbian who actually prefers to present as most straight women do, you automatically become the subject of horny male fetishes rather than a serious, legitimate individual.

I would argue that it's primarily due to the subversive effects of the media's exploitation of feminine lesbians that the lesbian community itself feels the need to present like this just to feel independent:

Otherwise, if you're wearing a dress, have long hair, and no tattoos or piercings on your body, then most likely you're just part of a porno or something. As a result, I essentially don't feel like I have a home. If there's a sub community of lesbians like myself, who don't personally view dresses, makeup, and softness as imposed traits of oppression but rather genuine parts of who they are, I'd sure love to know about it.

Thought I found someone. I'm pretty much certain it was just the drawn-out fabrication of some loser adolescent who thought lesbians are hot. This person's phone has been off since November 17. Can you understand a lot better now my point above? This type of crap is all too common, in which boys profess themselves as girls on dating sites just to be a part of a lipstick lesbian experience, while pretty much the only real lesbians you find online are the stereotypes with whom I share no rapport.


After doing some research on this topic and reading your post, I see where you're coming from. It's strange, because when I was younger, I actually used to be jealous that lesbianism/bisexual women were more "celebrated" by straight men, while being a gay man was seen as disgusting and undesirable (e.g. in that video you posted, "gaywad" was used an insult, while people cheered on the lesbians). But now that we're moving into a truer acceptance age, it's clear that the only reason lesbianism was liked more was because of its usefulness to straight men, rather than any true acceptance for what it plainly is, love between two people. That old way of thought is still very prevalent. If a lesbian person or relationship isn't directly useful to the person, it may as well not exist, is how a lot of people still think even in this "acceptance" age of the 2010s. It's become objectified.

That's f*cking awful what that person did >:(

That there is a lot of crime or reasons to feel unsafe.

That smartphones or social media are killing socializing.

That things are more politically correct than before, quite the opposite.

That Ariana Grande is anywhere near top-tier in terms of relevance.

That Adele's music doesn't put people to sleep.

That Pitbull is popular or relevant.

That 2010s fashion doesn't slay your trashy faves.

That's all for now.


I agree with this.

I would say the biggest one is that more celebrities died in 2016 than ANY OTHER YEAR...

The thing is the trend has been that way for over 17 years now... the thing that made 2016 different is 16 what Wikipedia says are "Super Celebrities" died in 2016. A massive increase to 2015s 4. Its not that more celebrities are dying... its just ones we knew very well happen to have the bad luck of dying at around the same time.


It was a depressing year.

I agree with this.


You agree that it's a misconception, or you agree that it's true? :o

You agree that it's a misconception, or you agree that it's true? :o



I agree it's true.

I agree it's true.


Mess! ;D

I meant to say it was a misconception. People for some reason believe that communicating by text (or even video chat) or indirectly through social media are not valid forms of socializing, and I say there's no basis for that. :P

Mess! ;D

I meant to say it was a misconception. People for some reason believe that communicating by text (or even video chat) or indirectly through social media are not valid forms of socializing, and I say there's no basis for that. :P

I think it's because 70% of communication is non-verbal so if you communicate by text, you may misinterpret a lot of what the other person is saying. In-person is the best form of communication.

I think it's because 70% of communication is non-verbal so if you communicate by text, you may misinterpret a lot of what the other person is saying. In-person is the best form of communication.


Citation needed ;)

Doesn't explain why video chats or video texting (like with Snapchat) is wrong, though.

I'd argue sometimes in-person isn't the best form of communication, depending on what you're trying to achieve. For example, if you're having a factual debate, is it not better to be able to draw from the Internet, and send a picture or a link to back up what you're saying? Very difficult to do in-person without other distractions getting in the way, and the second-to-second interaction that in-person communication requires (awkward pauses, it being rude to look at your phone etc.).

Citation needed ;)

Doesn't explain why video chats or video texting (like with Snapchat) is wrong, though.

I'd argue sometimes in-person isn't the best form of communication, depending on what you're trying to achieve.

Can't back this up but I remember hearing that. But non-verbal communication is still undeniably important and texting makes that difficult. For video conferencing, it's still not as authentic as face-to-face communication. The human element kind of goes missing when you use technology to communicate. It's not bad, but I prefer face-to-face communication.

Can't back this up but I remember hearing that. But non-verbal communication is still undeniably important and texting makes that difficult. For video conferencing, it's still not as authentic as face-to-face communication. The human element kind of goes missing when you use technology to communicate. It's not bad, but I prefer face-to-face communication.


I agree there is such a thing as non-verbal communication. I find it hard to believe it's anywhere near 70% though, or whether something like that can even be quantified. :o

It's also questionable whether one wants to communicate non-verbally. What if I don't want to give my nervousness away, or my anger? What if the other person doesn't want to know either, and prefers to purely address the content of your speech? It's questionable whether the quality of the socializing is in any way hampered by removing the non-verbal cues, depending on what the goal of the social interaction is.

But yeah, of course, it's okay to want to desire face-to-face communication with physical presence. Sometimes you do want to feel that person's physical presence, and you do want to communicate non-verbally. I question though, whether 1) it's the most superior way of socializing for all situations, and 2) texting while waiting for the bus (or whenever your digging your face into your smartphone) reduces the frequency or quality of face-to-face socializing, all things which people deride when they complain about "smartphone zombies".

I agree there is such a thing as non-verbal communication. I find it hard to believe it's anywhere near 70% though, or whether something like that can even be quantified. :o


I found this where one scientist claimes 93% of communication is non-verbal.

http://ubiquity.acm.org/article.cfm?id=2043156

I found this where one scientist claimes 93% of communication is non-verbal.

http://ubiquity.acm.org/article.cfm?id=2043156


Did you mean to link to an article that disproves/clarifies the claim? ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8


I bought this song. I like the song, but I'm not a big fan of this comment they made though: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/tatu-singer-wouldnt-love-gay-son180914

Also, what would your advice be towards guys who continually objectify lesbians and are in the mindset that they can be "changed"? I still envy lesbians because they don't need a man to make them happy in that way.

Tattoos. Why has everyone tattoos suddenly?

OK, that's maybe exaggerated, but I don't understand. I still find it really distracting and unaesthetical,
and really, I don't think one is being original with a huge flower on the neck. You can call it self expression what you want,
your choice, though I think you are just following the crowd.

Summary: I don't like these things, others decide for yourself.

I could say the same about undercuts and the vintage/hipster aesthetic this decade. You either support gay rights and make your look reflect that (e.g. guys wearing long hair and more feminine styled oufits) or you don't, you can't just support gay rights and make guys like Republicans i.e. short hair and modest outfits.

I could say the same about undercuts and the vintage/hipster aesthetic this decade. You either support gay rights and make your look reflect that (e.g. guys wearing long hair and more feminine styled oufits) or you don't, you can't just support gay rights and make guys like Republicans i.e. short hair and modest outfits.


I have short hair :P

I have short hair :P


I guess I'm gonna have to start calling you Mr. Republican from now on. ::)

I guess I'm gonna have to start calling you Mr. Republican from now on. ::)


😡😡😡 I'm a monarchist though. Vivat regina!

😡😡😡 I'm a monarchist though. Vivat regina!


Keep on denying it but your inner conservative will soon come out. ;)

Keep on denying it but your inner conservative will soon come out. ;)


I was a liberal until the savage MURDER of Vince Foster in the red hands of the Clintons, and the following liberal media COVER UP! I'm not even going to talk about BENGHAZI. Liberals make me sick to my stomach. Thankfully we have Trump now. I love how he exposed the lying liberal media when they were spreading fake news about his crowd size. They were caught with their pants down!

I was a liberal until the savage MURDER of Vince Foster in the red hands of the Clintons, and the following liberal media COVER UP! I'm not even going to talk about BENGHAZI. Liberals make me sick to my stomach. Thankfully we have Trump now. I love how he exposed the lying liberal media when they were spreading fake news about his crowd size. They were caught with their pants down!


Trump is against fake news and I'm glad he's taken the white house to make America great again! MAGA brother! We are in a new era of traditionalism!! Obama was born in Kenya, good thing Trump is a real natural born citizen!

Trump is against fake news and I'm glad he's taken the white house to make America great again! MAGA brother! We are in a new era of traditionalism!! Obama was born in Kenya, good thing Trump is a real natural born citizen!


Yeah he's a freaking authoritarian. Those fake news items should just be relisted as satire or op-eds (opinion editorials) instead. I appreciate what he's done to annoy China by recognising Taiwan's sovereignty, but I remain skeptical of what's happened since he became President; it may be tempting to see him as a saint, but I might just be afraid to identify as a conservative, or worshipping a politician like the second coming of Christ will start off a dictatorship like with North Korea.


Keep on denying it but your inner conservative will soon come out. ;)

Like how it was the norm in the 2000s and 1980s to be a little more conservative than prior decades because of US politics which has somewhat influenced US pop culture.


I have short hair :P


Hope you enjoyed the 2010s, and unless there's a 2000s comeback in the next decade, prepare to enjoy the new decade to come.

Trump is against fake news and I'm glad he's taken the white house to make America great again! MAGA brother! We are in a new era of traditionalism!! Obama was born in Kenya, good thing Trump is a real natural born citizen!


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Yeah he's a freaking authoritarian. Those fake news items should just be relisted as satire or op-eds (opinion editorials) instead. I appreciate what he's done to annoy China by recognising Taiwan's sovereignty, but I remain skeptical of what's happened since he became President; it may be tempting to see him as a saint, but I might just be afraid to identify as a conservative, or worshipping a politician like the second coming of Christ will start off a dictatorship like with North Korea.
Like how it was the norm in the 2000s and 1980s to be a little more conservative than prior decades because of US politics which has somewhat influenced US pop culture.

Hope you enjoyed the 2010s, and unless there's a 2000s comeback in the next decade, prepare to enjoy the new decade to come.


I think, even if there was a 2000s comeback, it would revive the spiky, gelled hair that was popular from 1999-2007/8 (or 1999-2004 according to some, ahem, but that's still half the decade). The long hair you're talking about was more of a 2005-2009 thing, and not the most iconic style of the decade in my opinion.

Just search "2000s hair men" on Google. That's the hairstyle most people associate with the decade. I keep telling people emo was a minuscule subculture in the 2000s, but people refuse to believe me ;D

I think, even if there was a 2000s comeback, it would revive the spiky, gelled hair that was popular from 1999-2007/8 (or 1999-2004 according to some, ahem, but that's still half the decade). The long hair you're talking about was more of a 2005-2009 thing, and not the most iconic style of the decade in my opinion.

Just search "2000s hair men" on Google. That's the hairstyle most people associate with the decade. I keep telling people emo was a minuscule subculture in the 2000s, but people refuse to believe me ;D


Here's a 2005-2006 yearbook. I see a lot of wings haircuts. ::)

http://dorahighschool.com/alumni/2006Yearbook/web/images/020_jpg.jpg
http://dorahighschool.com/alumni/2006Yearbook/web/images/021_jpg.jpg

I do agree that emo wasn't that big, though. It was mostly about rap music in the 00's but the wings haircut was still pretty prominent.


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Yeah, man, the photos lie. Trump had the entire US population watch him give his speech! MAGA!


Yeah he's a freaking authoritarian. Those fake news items should just be relisted as satire or op-eds (opinion editorials) instead. I appreciate what he's done to annoy China by recognising Taiwan's sovereignty, but I remain skeptical of what's happened since he became President; it may be tempting to see him as a saint, but I might just be afraid to identify as a conservative, or worshipping a politician like the second coming of Christ will start off a dictatorship like with North Korea.

Like how it was the norm in the 2000s and 1980s to be a little more conservative than prior decades because of US politics which has somewhat influenced US pop culture.

Hope you enjoyed the 2010s, and unless there's a 2000s comeback in the next decade, prepare to enjoy the new decade to come.


I think we're in for a load of trouble during these next 4 years...

The difference is the 80's had a very strong, rebellious youth culture to combat the conservative politics of Reagan. Big hair, New Wave and New Romantic styles, Industrial, Punk, Goth, Hip Hop, the revival of Skateboarding, neon, baggy clothes, loose untucked t-shirts being common, Keith Haring, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper, Madonna, Billy Idol, The Cure, Run-DMC, Beastie Boys etc. It was a heavily experimental and modern decade that I feel makes the previous decades look very homogeneous (in some ways more than others) and old. The 00's, on the other hand, was almost completely dominated by macho rap music and middle of the road Post-Post Grunge with Emo being a small footnote. 80's had their fair share of macho behaviors with the action movies being a pretty big example but they had very prominent androgynous cultures to combat that. 

Here's a 2005-2006 yearbook. I see a lot of wings haircuts. ::)

http://dorahighschool.com/alumni/2006Yearbook/web/images/020_jpg.jpg
http://dorahighschool.com/alumni/2006Yearbook/web/images/021_jpg.jpg

I do agree that emo wasn't that big, though. It was mostly about rap music in the 00's but the wings haircut was still pretty prominent.

Yeah, man, the photos lie. Trump had the entire US population watch him give his speech! MAGA!

I think we're in for a load of trouble during these next 4 years...

The difference is the 80's had a very strong, rebellious youth culture to combat the conservative politics of Reagan. Big hair, New Wave and New Romantic styles, Industrial, Punk, Goth, Hip Hop, the revival of Skateboarding, neon, baggy clothes, loose untucked t-shirts being common, Keith Haring, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper, Madonna, Billy Idol, The Cure, Run-DMC, Beastie Boys etc. It was a heavily experimental and modern decade that I feel makes the previous decades look very homogeneous (in some ways more than others) and old. The 00's, on the other hand, was almost completely dominated by macho rap music and middle of the road Post-Post Grunge with Emo being a small footnote. 80's had their fair share of macho behaviors with the action movies being a pretty big example but they had very prominent androgynous cultures to combat that. 


Still better than the prevalent haircut of this decade on guys.

I think, even if there was a 2000s comeback, it would revive the spiky, gelled hair that was popular from 1999-2007/8 (or 1999-2004 according to some, ahem, but that's still half the decade). The long hair you're talking about was more of a 2005-2009 thing, and not the most iconic style of the decade in my opinion.

Just search "2000s hair men" on Google. That's the hairstyle most people associate with the decade. I keep telling people emo was a minuscule subculture in the 2000s, but people refuse to believe me ;D


So why did people start and stop wearing the long hair that guys did from 2005-2009? I'm pretty sure that Bieber, 1D, Bruno Mars and a few other pop stars popularised the stupid haircut we have these days in the 2010s.

To put things in perspective: where millennials are now age-wise, is only 1 or 3 years older than where boomers were when Reagan became president. The 80s was when the boomers took a right turn. Trump seems like the anti-Reagan and millennials are looking like they might take an activist left turn.

With the exception of gay marriage, I think the 2010s will be regarded as a decade full of fake activism...up until 2017.

To put things in perspective: where millennials are now age-wise, is only 1 or 3 years older than where boomers were when Reagan became president. The 80s was when the boomers took a right turn. Trump seems like the anti-Reagan and millennials are looking like they might take an activist left turn.

With the exception of gay marriage, I think the 2010s will be regarded as a decade full of fake activism...up until 2017.


The oldest Boomers (1946) would have been 35 years old in 1981.

That the late '10s define the entire decade. People always forget about the early and mid '10s and act like they never happened.

Sentences I hope I won't be saying in 5 years time.  :\'(

Here's a 2005-2006 yearbook. I see a lot of wings haircuts. ::)

http://dorahighschool.com/alumni/2006Yearbook/web/images/020_jpg.jpg
http://dorahighschool.com/alumni/2006Yearbook/web/images/021_jpg.jpg

I do agree that emo wasn't that big, though. It was mostly about rap music in the 00's but the wings haircut was still pretty prominent.

Yeah, man, the photos lie. Trump had the entire US population watch him give his speech! MAGA!

I think we're in for a load of trouble during these next 4 years...

The difference is the 80's had a very strong, rebellious youth culture to combat the conservative politics of Reagan. Big hair, New Wave and New Romantic styles, Industrial, Punk, Goth, Hip Hop, the revival of Skateboarding, neon, baggy clothes, loose untucked t-shirts being common, Keith Haring, Michael Jackson, Cyndi Lauper, Madonna, Billy Idol, The Cure, Run-DMC, Beastie Boys etc. It was a heavily experimental and modern decade that I feel makes the previous decades look very homogeneous (in some ways more than others) and old. The 00's, on the other hand, was almost completely dominated by macho rap music and middle of the road Post-Post Grunge with Emo being a small footnote. 80's had their fair share of macho behaviors with the action movies being a pretty big example but they had very prominent androgynous cultures to combat that.


Ew did that school ban creativity  8-P

2006 David Beckham defines the era. Fact.

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That the late '10s define the entire decade. People always forget about the early and mid '10s and act like they never happened.

Sentences I hope I won't be saying in 5 years time.  :\'(


What's different about 2017 and after?  :-X

Ew did that school ban creativity  8-P

2006 David Beckham defines the era. Fact.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d1/d6/2f/d1d62f868b81cf8eac138d56c3e34b8c.jpg


That's not even real spiky hair. ::)


That the late '10s define the entire decade. People always forget about the early and mid '10s and act like they never happened.

Sentences I hope I won't be saying in 5 years time.  :\'(


You mean just like how the early 80's define the 80's? ::) :P

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Hitler controlled everyone in Germany, while both Obama and Trump were leaders of countries that were democratically free. Especially with the right to freedom of speech. Your point?

That's not even real spiky hair. ::)

You mean just like how the early 80's define the 80's? ::) :P


Hair gel with hair pointing upwards = 2000s hair.

And yes!! 2009-2014 was the real 2010s.

Hair gel with hair pointing upwards = 2000s hair.

And yes!! 2009-2014 was the real 2010s.


Are you sure you're not The Early 90s Guy in disguise?

Are you sure you're not The Early 90s Guy in disguise?


I've always been TheEarly10sGuy ;)

Hair gel with hair pointing upwards = 2000s hair.

And yes!! 2009-2014 was the real 2010s.

Yeah I agree that period describes the 10s the most.

Hitler controlled everyone in Germany, while both Obama and Trump were leaders of countries that were democratically free. Especially with the right to freedom of speech. Your point?

Trump and his Cabinet seem to really hate the opposition though.

Some folks think the 2010s are exactly the same as the 2000s and the 21st century has no identity.

Well, that's false to me. For one the 00s didn't have Internet memes influencing reality.

Whatever, it's probably Redditors and Facebookers who think everything after the 90s sucks, because their childhoods are over, and as we all know, nothing good comes after childhood. :P


This is true and false. The 2000s and 2010s just don't have mono/uniform culture like the previous decades. They don't suffer from having only 1 or a limited style. There really is no such thing as a 2000s style or 2010s style to be honest (except in very specific areas). While the 1990s and before did have their own style. But while this helps a decade have its own identity it also ended up suffering from a lack of true variety in style. Due to things like the internet we have so much information that allows us to learn about old and new things in terms of pop culture (or anything really). While back then you only learned about something when it aired on TV or Radio (both of which limit the kind of content they have). Now to me when people say that the 2000s/2010s lack their own style I now fail to see how that is a bad thing. It just means that they're decades that are home to so many different things and not just specific kinds/styles like the previous decades.

The 21st century COULD in fact have a decade with its own style, but I'm not sure how exactly that may happen. Who knows. People of the 21st century didn't just go "You know what? Lets stop making original stuff". Rather they're really just doing whatever they want. They may make something original or something that is heavily influenced from something.  Whether you like this or not is up to you. But it's hard to believe that all of sudden in the modern world people within pop culture just stopped being creative within pop culture.

Take the 1970s for example. Disco Demolition Night happened since Disco was everywhere. Whether you liked disco or not didn't change the fact that you were going to hear it on Radio or TV. People couldn't escape it so they got together and literally destroyed the genre. Now anything made from 1979 onward is labeled Post-Disco or Nu-Disco (Or Future Funk, but that is for another thread). Culture in the 1970s was uniform so whatever was big always popped in your face and ears. You'd know all of the celebrities names and whatnot whether you liked them or not. Nowadays thanks to the internet I'm able to listen to so many different kinds of music. Someone can show you a celebrity and it wouldn't be shocking if you didn't know his/her name. Nowadays you can have celebrities like Lady Gaga be spoken in the same light as Pewdiepie. And you can have people who know of one without knowing anything about the other. I can escape whatever is big at the moment and find a ton of other things to enjoy.

In short 20th century has uniform Pop culture. 21st century doesn't. Doesn't mean that either is bad. Just means that culture is created and experienced in a fashion that is different than before.

This is true and false. The 2000s and 2010s just don't have mono/uniform culture like the previous decades. They don't suffer from having only 1 or a limited style. There really is no such thing as a 2000s style or 2010s style to be honest (except in very specific areas). While the 1990s and before did have their own style. But while this helps a decade have its own identity it also ended up suffering from a lack of true variety in style. Due to things like the internet we have so much information that allows us to learn about old and new things in terms of pop culture (or anything really). While back then you only learned about something when it aired on TV or Radio (both of which limit the kind of content they have). Now to me when people say that the 2000s/2010s lack their own style I now fail to see how that is a bad thing. It just means that they're decades that are home to so many different things and not just specific kinds/styles like the previous decades.

The 21st century COULD in fact have a decade with its own style, but I'm not sure how exactly that may happen. Who knows. People of the 21st century didn't just go "You know what? Lets stop making original stuff". Rather they're really just doing whatever they want. They may make something original or something that is heavily influenced from something.  Whether you like this or not is up to you. But it's hard to believe that all of sudden in the modern world people within pop culture just stopped being creative within pop culture.

Take the 1970s for example. Disco Demolition Night happened since Disco was everywhere. Whether you liked disco or not didn't change the fact that you were going to hear it on Radio or TV. People couldn't escape it so they got together and literally destroyed the genre. Now anything made from 1979 onward is labeled Post-Disco or Nu-Disco (Or Future Funk, but that is for another thread). Culture in the 1970s was uniform so whatever was big always popped in your face and ears. You'd know all of the celebrities names and whatnot whether you liked them or not. Nowadays thanks to the internet I'm able to listen to so many different kinds of music. Someone can show you a celebrity and it wouldn't be shocking if you didn't know his/her name. Nowadays you can have celebrities like Lady Gaga be spoken in the same light as Pewdiepie. And you can have people who know of one without knowing anything about the other. I can escape whatever is big at the moment and find a ton of other things to enjoy.

In short 20th century has uniform Pop culture. 21st century doesn't. Doesn't mean that either is bad. Just means that culture is created and experienced in a fashion that is different than before.

But there really is no difference between the 90s, 00s and 10s in terms of levels of style they have. The 00s and 10s have their own style as well. Maybe not as much as the 80s but they have their own unique style.

But there really is no difference between the 90s, 00s and 10s in terms of levels of style they have. The 00s and 10s have their own style as well. Maybe not as much as the 80s but they have their own unique style.


Well maybe I explained poorly. The 00s/10s DO in fact have their own style, but it's rather a combination of styles instead of just say one overall style. The 1980s has one big overall style. While the 00s/10's styles are a variety of other styles mixed into one. This is why you can be a manbun rocking hipster who listens to Vaporwave while reading our new president's shenanigans on Twitter (literally none of these things relate in terms of style/trend yet they somehow co-exist in pop culture which I find to be amazing). So many styles which means that there is literally something for everyone. There is a such thing as a 2000's style movie for example, but that style is really just 1 out of many other styles. There is no actual definitive one or a limited kind of styles for the 2000s or 2010s.

This is true and false. The 2000s and 2010s just don't have mono/uniform culture like the previous decades. They don't suffer from having only 1 or a limited style. There really is no such thing as a 2000s style or 2010s style to be honest (except in very specific areas). While the 1990s and before did have their own style. But while this helps a decade have its own identity it also ended up suffering from a lack of true variety in style. Due to things like the internet we have so much information that allows us to learn about old and new things in terms of pop culture (or anything really). While back then you only learned about something when it aired on TV or Radio (both of which limit the kind of content they have). Now to me when people say that the 2000s/2010s lack their own style I now fail to see how that is a bad thing. It just means that they're decades that are home to so many different things and not just specific kinds/styles like the previous decades.

The 21st century COULD in fact have a decade with its own style, but I'm not sure how exactly that may happen. Who knows. People of the 21st century didn't just go "You know what? Lets stop making original stuff". Rather they're really just doing whatever they want. They may make something original or something that is heavily influenced from something.  Whether you like this or not is up to you. But it's hard to believe that all of sudden in the modern world people within pop culture just stopped being creative within pop culture.

Take the 1970s for example. Disco Demolition Night happened since Disco was everywhere. Whether you liked disco or not didn't change the fact that you were going to hear it on Radio or TV. People couldn't escape it so they got together and literally destroyed the genre. Now anything made from 1979 onward is labeled Post-Disco or Nu-Disco (Or Future Funk, but that is for another thread). Culture in the 1970s was uniform so whatever was big always popped in your face and ears. You'd know all of the celebrities names and whatnot whether you liked them or not. Nowadays thanks to the internet I'm able to listen to so many different kinds of music. Someone can show you a celebrity and it wouldn't be shocking if you didn't know his/her name. Nowadays you can have celebrities like Lady Gaga be spoken in the same light as Pewdiepie. And you can have people who know of one without knowing anything about the other. I can escape whatever is big at the moment and find a ton of other things to enjoy.

In short 20th century has uniform Pop culture. 21st century doesn't. Doesn't mean that either is bad. Just means that culture is created and experienced in a fashion that is different than before.

I believe that hipster seems to have dominated pop culture since around 2013. You had remnants of emo and scene culture all the way back from 2012, which was considered more popular in the mid to late 2000s.

Well maybe I explained poorly. The 00s/10s DO in fact have their own style, but it's rather a combination of styles instead of just say one overall style. The 1980s has one big overall style. While the 00s/10's styles are a variety of other styles mixed into one. This is why you can be a manbun rocking hipster who listens to Vaporwave while reading our new president's shenanigans on Twitter (literally none of these things relate in terms of style/trend yet they somehow co-exist in pop culture which I find to be amazing). So many styles which means that there is literally something for everyone. There is a such thing as a 2000's style movie for example, but that style is really just 1 out of many other styles. There is no actual definitive one or a limited kind of styles for the 2000s or 2010s.

I think it's just too early. 10 years from now we may notice a 2000s style movie for example. People used to say the same thing for the 1990s how it lacked an identity compared to the 1980s.

I think it's just too early. 10 years from now we may notice a 2000s style movie for example. People used to say the same thing for the 1990s how it lacked an identity compared to the 1980s.


I suppose you have a point on that one. Change is very gradual and isn't noticeable until hindsight from around 20 years after a decade has started.

Well maybe I explained poorly. The 00s/10s DO in fact have their own style, but it's rather a combination of styles instead of just say one overall style. The 1980s has one big overall style. While the 00s/10's styles are a variety of other styles mixed into one. This is why you can be a manbun rocking hipster who listens to Vaporwave while reading our new president's shenanigans on Twitter (literally none of these things relate in terms of style/trend yet they somehow co-exist in pop culture which I find to be amazing). So many styles which means that there is literally something for everyone. There is a such thing as a 2000's style movie for example, but that style is really just 1 out of many other styles. There is no actual definitive one or a limited kind of styles for the 2000s or 2010s.


Actually the "manbun rocking hipster who reads our new president's shenanigans" is exactly what is defining 2010s pop culture (with the exception of the vaporwave part). There is actually LESS variety in the 2010s than there was in previous decades. Fashion is all hipster-based. I can barely go shopping anymore because of it. Mainstream music is confined to droney electronic music, trap, indie pop, etc. While vaporwave has gained some recognition on the internet, I'd hardly call it a definitive part of the 2010s. I can agree that there was something for everyone in the 2000s, but not the 2010s. No way. Not while there are people like me who are completely alienated by today's pop culture and society.

Actually the "manbun rocking hipster who reads our new president's shenanigans" is exactly what is defining 2010s pop culture (with the exception of the vaporwave part). There is actually LESS variety in the 2010s than there was in previous decades. Fashion is all hipster-based. I can barely go shopping anymore because of it. Mainstream music is confined to droney electronic music, trap, indie pop, etc. While vaporwave has gained some recognition on the internet, I'd hardly call it a definitive part of the 2010s. I can agree that there was something for everyone in the 2000s, but not the 2010s. No way. Not while there are people like me who are completely alienated by today's pop culture and society.


Today's pop culture is rather strange indeed. The mention of Vaporwave is due to its status on the internet. I keep seeing how people say that internet culture has come almost as big as mainstream culture. That and due to the fact that as you've stated 2010s music is a lot of electronic/trap music. Vaporwave counts as Electronic (and Trap due to the subgenre known as VaporTrap). It fits into culture probably since its another extension of today's electronic music to some degree. But anyways enough on Vaporwave.

Anyways after searching through the internet a bit more my views on the 2010s has slightly changed. Going back to what I originally viewed. By this I mean that when comparing the 2000s and 2010s the 2010s actually has itself somewhat of an indenity, however, the 2000s as you've stated was pretty varied in terms of culture. The 2010s isn't, but it's not on the same level as the 1980s for example, but it is similar (like the 1980s in terms of mono culture, but to a lesser degree). Decades with rapid pop cultural changes such as the 2000s lacked an identity since pop cultural refused to stay still before changing up. The 2010s so far has been a pretty consistent decade in terms of pop culture. 2000s was strange. First its about being Xtreme, then its about the emo scene, then its about the introduction and growth of social media, then its about the introduction of iphones which ended up taking part in today's pop culture, then its ab- yada yada yada. 2000s was varied with its many options of fashion, music and other trends.. In terms of whether or not it has a strong identity like the 1980s or is varied like the 2000s I see the 2010s as somewhere in the middle to be honest.  But I guess I can't truly say until this decade ends. It's easier to tell in hindsight and not during the actual moment.

As for being alienated by 2010s culture do you think it has to do with what others say? Some say that pop culture is alienating now since bits of political influence and pandering to specific demographics have leaked into pop culture. People enjoy pop culture since it can be fun, but when you add in a lot of the political nonsense and/or pandering you end up something that is different. Or rather this is what I've heard a few times. As of late my time with pop culture has mainly been internet based and not mainstream so I'm not as knowledgeable on mainstream culture right now.

This is true and false. The 2000s and 2010s just don't have mono/uniform culture like the previous decades. They don't suffer from having only 1 or a limited style. There really is no such thing as a 2000s style or 2010s style to be honest (except in very specific areas). While the 1990s and before did have their own style. But while this helps a decade have its own identity it also ended up suffering from a lack of true variety in style. Due to things like the internet we have so much information that allows us to learn about old and new things in terms of pop culture (or anything really). While back then you only learned about something when it aired on TV or Radio (both of which limit the kind of content they have). Now to me when people say that the 2000s/2010s lack their own style I now fail to see how that is a bad thing. It just means that they're decades that are home to so many different things and not just specific kinds/styles like the previous decades.

The 21st century COULD in fact have a decade with its own style, but I'm not sure how exactly that may happen. Who knows. People of the 21st century didn't just go "You know what? Lets stop making original stuff". Rather they're really just doing whatever they want. They may make something original or something that is heavily influenced from something.  Whether you like this or not is up to you. But it's hard to believe that all of sudden in the modern world people within pop culture just stopped being creative within pop culture.

Take the 1970s for example. Disco Demolition Night happened since Disco was everywhere. Whether you liked disco or not didn't change the fact that you were going to hear it on Radio or TV. People couldn't escape it so they got together and literally destroyed the genre. Now anything made from 1979 onward is labeled Post-Disco or Nu-Disco (Or Future Funk, but that is for another thread). Culture in the 1970s was uniform so whatever was big always popped in your face and ears. You'd know all of the celebrities names and whatnot whether you liked them or not. Nowadays thanks to the internet I'm able to listen to so many different kinds of music. Someone can show you a celebrity and it wouldn't be shocking if you didn't know his/her name. Nowadays you can have celebrities like Lady Gaga be spoken in the same light as Pewdiepie. And you can have people who know of one without knowing anything about the other. I can escape whatever is big at the moment and find a ton of other things to enjoy.

In short 20th century has uniform Pop culture. 21st century doesn't. Doesn't mean that either is bad. Just means that culture is created and experienced in a fashion that is different than before.


Basically the 50's to the 90's was very uniform. Of course, that doesn't mean everyone was the same, or whatever. But the internet changed things, people are more individualistic now. Add to it all this technology, and you can skip a show you don't care for.

Today's pop culture is rather strange indeed. The mention of Vaporwave is due to its status on the internet. I keep seeing how people say that internet culture has come almost as big as mainstream culture. That and due to the fact that as you've stated 2010s music is a lot of electronic/trap music. Vaporwave counts as Electronic (and Trap due to the subgenre known as VaporTrap). It fits into culture probably since its another extension of today's electronic music to some degree. But anyways enough on Vaporwave.

Anyways after searching through the internet a bit more my views on the 2010s has slightly changed. Going back to what I originally viewed. By this I mean that when comparing the 2000s and 2010s the 2010s actually has itself somewhat of an indenity, however, the 2000s as you've stated was pretty varied in terms of culture. The 2010s isn't, but it's not on the same level as the 1980s for example, but it is similar (like the 1980s in terms of mono culture, but to a lesser degree). Decades with rapid pop cultural changes such as the 2000s lacked an identity since pop cultural refused to stay still before changing up. The 2010s so far has been a pretty consistent decade in terms of pop culture. 2000s was strange. First its about being Xtreme, then its about the emo scene, then its about the introduction and growth of social media, then its about the introduction of iphones which ended up taking part in today's pop culture, then its ab- yada yada yada. 2000s was varied with its many options of fashion, music and other trends.. In terms of whether or not it has a strong identity like the 1980s or is varied like the 2000s I see the 2010s as somewhere in the middle to be honest.  But I guess I can't truly say until this decade ends. It's easier to tell in hindsight and not during the actual moment.

As for being alienated by 2010s culture do you think it has to do with what others say? Some say that pop culture is alienating now since bits of political influence and pandering to specific demographics have leaked into pop culture. People enjoy pop culture since it can be fun, but when you add in a lot of the political nonsense and/or pandering you end up something that is different. Or rather this is what I've heard a few times. As of late my time with pop culture has mainly been internet based and not mainstream so I'm not as knowledgeable on mainstream culture right now.


I feel alienated because of the lack of choices that the 2010s offer. The 80s actually offered quite a bit of variety in terms of culture. Although you had stuff like New Wave, R&B, Dance Pop, Hard Rock, Glam Metal, etc. in the Top 40 charts, there was also a lot of great rap music that was gaining prominence. Punk and Heavy Metal were gaining a following, as well as Goth. Nowadays there is a huge gap between what is mainstream and what is underground. Sure I've found some great music on sites like bandcamp, but I would not be able to discuss with someone else. It's mostly these alternative styles don't gain a huge following like they used to. Also, fashion associated with the various groups I listed (and there's more, mind you) all followed their own styles of fashion. Nowadays all fashion has some sort of hipster influence, with the man buns, undercuts, tight jeans/chinos, shirts with ugly designs, bland colors, etc. Because of this I can barely go clothing shopping nowadays. Even at thrift stores, it's mostly the typical 2010s type stuff. As for the political side of the 2010s, it's been horrible, especially in the Silicon Valley. Most people around here (especially those in college and those in their 20s) subscribe to the typical SJW mindset, and accuse anyone who even slightly disagrees with them as being "racists" or "trump supporters".

A common misconception about the 2010s is that they're the worst decade of all-time.

People seem to be forgetting about the 1930s when they say this.

Basically the 50's to the 90's was very uniform. Of course, that doesn't mean everyone was the same, or whatever. But the internet changed things, people are more individualistic now. Add to it all this technology, and you can skip a show you don't care for.


Yeah, sure those decades were uniform, but it's not like EVERYTHING was the same. Understandable for people to discover things that went against the main popular trends even back then. Heck it's why despite growing up in the 1990s I for some reason don't relate to a lot of those "90s Kids" lists.


A common misconception about the 2010s is that they're the worst decade of all-time.

People seem to be forgetting about the 1930s when they say this.


Nah, nowadays people like to say they wish they could see the 1930s and consider it one of the great classical times. Meanwhile my great-aunt always mentions how much people were struggling during the 1930s/1940s. Economic depression with wars built on top of it. But people seem to forget that. Some just like the 1930s because its an old time period that isn't the 2010s. "If it's modern then it sucks" or "Old = Good" mentality (not everyone has this, but it's easy to spot the ones who do). I like the 1930s in terms of music, cartoons, and comics, but not for much else in all honesty.  Although not many people on here or anywhere else on the internet speak of the 1930s. Probably since people in their 80s don't spend time chatting online as much as those younger than them.


I feel alienated because of the lack of choices that the 2010s offer. The 80s actually offered quite a bit of variety in terms of culture. Although you had stuff like New Wave, R&B, Dance Pop, Hard Rock, Glam Metal, etc. in the Top 40 charts, there was also a lot of great rap music that was gaining prominence. Punk and Heavy Metal were gaining a following, as well as Goth. Nowadays there is a huge gap between what is mainstream and what is underground. Sure I've found some great music on sites like bandcamp, but I would not be able to discuss with someone else. It's mostly these alternative styles don't gain a huge following like they used to. Also, fashion associated with the various groups I listed (and there's more, mind you) all followed their own styles of fashion. Nowadays all fashion has some sort of hipster influence, with the man buns, undercuts, tight jeans/chinos, shirts with ugly designs, bland colors, etc. Because of this I can barely go clothing shopping nowadays. Even at thrift stores, it's mostly the typical 2010s type stuff. As for the political side of the 2010s, it's been horrible, especially in the Silicon Valley. Most people around here (especially those in college and those in their 20s) subscribe to the typical SJW mindset, and accuse anyone who even slightly disagrees with them as being "racists" or "trump supporters".


From a political standpoint the 2010s is an abosulte mess. Doesn't help that those political issues leak into the cultural and economical issues. I can tolerate Hipster fashion to an extend (although things like neckbeards and manbuns don't appeal to me at all). But the 2010s is actually a bit diverse in terms of fashion. I wouldn't say that Hipster fashion is the only kind of fashion or even the biggest kind of fashion. At least not in my area. I've seen hipsters who would have Skater Fashion almost all the time, and some still  even have the early 2010s neon colored fashion. As for SJWs I'm not much of a fan of them. SJWs are NOT helping this nation at all in my opinion. Just causing more divide and problems. Shouting things like racist or trump supporter shows how dumb some have gotten. Being a racist is a massive issue, but being accused of being a racist is just as bad.  Mainstream music is a bit bland, but as I've stated before due to the internet I can escape it. I don't have to listen to the crap we got today since the internet can satisfy my music needs. Most of my friends are aware of my musical interests (some of them introduced me to some of my favorite songs) so it's not much of an issue for me, but my case doesn't apply to everyone.

That there is a lot of crime or reasons to feel unsafe.

That smartphones or social media are killing socializing.

That things are more politically correct than before, quite the opposite.

That Ariana Grande is anywhere near top-tier in terms of relevance.

That Adele's music doesn't put people to sleep.

That Pitbull is popular or relevant.

That 2010s fashion doesn't slay your trashy faves.

That's all for now.


Interesting list, Slowpoke. Especially that point about Pitbull (sorry Jordan, couldn't resist  ;)).

Interesting list, Slowpoke. Especially that point about Pitbull (sorry Jordan, couldn't resist  ;)).


Haha thanks. I was feeling especially sassy that day ;D

Haha thanks. I was feeling especially sassy that day ;D


Did you eat enough sugar?  ???  Sometimes when I don't get enough sugar I turn into a verbal serial murderer.

Did you eat enough sugar?  ???  Sometimes when I don't get enough sugar I turn into a verbal serial murderer.


:o I'll keep that in mind.

Actually the "manbun rocking hipster who reads our new president's shenanigans" is exactly what is defining 2010s pop culture (with the exception of the vaporwave part). There is actually LESS variety in the 2010s than there was in previous decades. Fashion is all hipster-based. I can barely go shopping anymore because of it. Mainstream music is confined to droney electronic music, trap, indie pop, etc. While vaporwave has gained some recognition on the internet, I'd hardly call it a definitive part of the 2010s. I can agree that there was something for everyone in the 2000s, but not the 2010s. No way. Not while there are people like me who are completely alienated by today's pop culture and society.


Hipster music used to mean Sufjan Stevens, Animal Collective, Arcade Fire, Grizzly Bear, Dirty Projectors, Modest Mouse, Fleet Foxes, The Strokes, Mac DeMarco, Tame Impala, and LCD Sound System. Nothing in the top 100 sounds like these guys. I'd be totally cool if the mainstream took on bands like the ones I listed.

I'll say that one day in the future some people may assume  that Generation Y dominated this decade, where in reality, it was Gen Xers who are still currently holding most of the executive decisions, from CEOs to Obama (until he left).

I'll say that one day in the future some people may assume  that Generation Y dominated this decade, where in reality, it was Gen Xers who are still currently holding most of the executive decisions, from CEOs to Obama (until he left).


It's Millennials who made Facebook though!

It's Millennials who made Facebook though!
True, but the MTV cohort (Gen X) still have dominated this decade. By 2020, we'll be the dominators.  8)

A common misconception about the 2010s is that they're the worst decade of all-time.

People seem to be forgetting about the 1930s when they say this.


They mean worst decade in their lifetime. Most of us weren't alive in the 30s or in the WW2 40s.

I'll say that one day in the future some people may assume  that Generation Y dominated this decade, where in reality, it was Gen Xers who are still currently holding most of the executive decisions, from CEOs to Obama (until he left).


Hot damn. I thought I was the only one who felt like this. The truth is, each generation doesn't reach real power until the youngest ones are well into their 30s.

I'll say that one day in the future some people may assume  that Generation Y dominated this decade, where in reality, it was Gen Xers who are still currently holding most of the executive decisions, from CEOs to Obama (until he left).


They're talking about cultural beliefs and pop culture, not who's in charge of the companies. The Boomers dominated the 70s for example.

They're talking about cultural beliefs and pop culture, not who's in charge of the companies. The Boomers dominated the 70s for example.


While youth culture tends to challenge the dominant culture, the power still lies in those who have money and those who vote and the youth are notorious for their low voting turnout. What are beliefs worth if you don't implement them? Pop culture might be youth oriented but the gatekeepers are usually adults and that fact shouldn't be shirked.

I believe both Boomers and Millennials can be divided into two camps but I digress.

While youth culture tends to challenge the dominant culture, the power still lies in those who have money and those who vote and the youth are notorious for their low voting turnout. What are beliefs worth if you don't implement them? Pop culture might be youth oriented but the gatekeepers are usually adults and that fact shouldn't be shirked.

I believe both Boomers and Millennials can be divided into two camps but I digress.


What age would you consider a generation coming into power?? 30? 35? 40?

What age would you consider a generation coming into power?? 30? 35? 40?


My boss is in his late 30s. He's got the power! ;D

My dad was promoted to a managerial position in his early 50s.

I think, generally, people who are near retirement (55-64) are usually top of the food chain, but generations do start taking leadership positions starting in their 40s or so. Obama was 47 when he got elected president, and Bill Clinton was 46.

What age would you consider a generation coming into power?? 30? 35? 40?


I believe this to be more or less true...

Coming into power: 30s-40

Power solidified: 40s-Retirement

Echo Power: Retirement-Death (the group likeliest to vote, attend town halls, and contact representatives)

My boss is in his late 30s. He's got the power! ;D

My dad was promoted to a managerial position in his early 50s.

I think, generally, people who are near retirement (55-64) are usually top of the food chain, but generations do start taking leadership positions starting in their 40s or so. Obama was 47 when he got elected president, and Bill Clinton was 46.


Exactly.

My boss is in his late 30s. He's got the power! ;D

My dad was promoted to a managerial position in his early 50s.

I think, generally, people who are near retirement (55-64) are usually top of the food chain, but generations do start taking leadership positions starting in their 40s or so. Obama was 47 when he got elected president, and Bill Clinton was 46.


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I believe this to be more or less true...

Coming into power: 30s-40

Power solidified: 40s-Retirement

Echo Power: Retirement-Death (the group likeliest to vote, attend town halls, and contact representatives)


Yeah, for some reason, it's hard for me to imagine anyone under 33 being a boss. But then again, I need to go out more!

I do feel that a generation comes into full power in their 40s.

They're talking about cultural beliefs and pop culture, not who's in charge of the companies. The Boomers dominated the 70s for example.
I agree with Born, Slowpoke and MM. Generation X is still the dominating force of this decade. Just like the Boomers had the power in the 90s. As for the 70s, that's also a myth. It was actually the Silents who had the power in that decade. Most Boomers were either in their teens or 20s during the 1970s.