It seems like there isn't really a consensus yet as to what to call the generation after the Millennials.  Generation Z is the most generic and seems to be the most common.  Homeland Generation caught on early since they are the first generation born after 9/11, but calling them that is very America-centric and I think 9/11 defined the Millennial experience more than it did the Gen Z experience.  I think Plurals is the most appropriate.  America and to an extent the world has become a much more pluralistic place in the early 21st century.  Gen Z is the first generation to have no memory of life before political correctness, widespread Internet access, and social media.

Thoughts?

I used to say Gen Z, but now I say Plurals. When I think of generations I try to not make it American Centric. So I don't really use 9/11 as a defining thing as it wouldn't make since for those born in North America, but not in Canada, all of Europe, all of Asia, all of South America and any other place that isn't part of the United States. For example I was born in the United States, but I have younger cousins (born in 1996) who were born and raised in Canada. So I can't go mentioning 9/11 since for the Canadian 1996 borns it wouldn't make sense.

But as for the name I'm fine with using Plurals.

Post Millennial anybody?(Though according to that definition I would be a Millenial).

Other than that Gen. Z.

I used to say Gen Z, but now I say Plurals. When I think of generations I try to not make it American Centric. So I don't really use 9/11 as a defining thing as it wouldn't make since for those born in North America, but not in Canada, all of Europe, all of Asia, all of South America and any other place that isn't part of the United States. For example I was born in the United States, but I have younger cousins (born in 1996) who were born and raised in Canada. So I can't go mentioning 9/11 since for the Canadian 1996 borns it wouldn't make sense.

But as for the name I'm fine with using Plurals.


Neil Howe, who came up with Homeland Generation name in 2005, predicted that 9/11 and The War on Terror would be to Millennials and Gen Z as Pearl Harbor/World War II was to the Greatest Generation and the Silent Generation.

In retrospect, 9/11 was a significant marking point in American history but it doesn't come close to having the impact Pearl Harbor did.  The War on Terror was/is more Vietnam than World War II.

Neil Howe, who came up with Homeland Generation name in 2005, predicted that 9/11 and The War on Terror would be to Millennials and Gen Z as Pearl Harbor/World War II was to the Greatest Generation and the Silent Generation.

In retrospect, 9/11 was a significant marking point in American history but it doesn't come close to having the impact Pearl Harbor did.  The War on Terror was/is more Vietnam than World War II.


So you're saying that the War on Terror isn't that big?

So you're saying that the War on Terror isn't that big?


The War on Terror only took place in Iraq and Afghanistan, WWII was when the whole world was fighting each other.

The War on Terror only took place in Iraq and Afghanistan, WWII was when the whole world was fighting each other.


Okay.

The War on Terror only took place in Iraq and Afghanistan, WWII was when the whole world was fighting each other.
There were several neutral countries during the Second World War.

I would rather call this generation the Homelanders. Sounds like a best name for them. Gen Z sounds like an extension of X and Y generations. Plus, the Homeland Generation should start in 2001 and end sometime between 2017-2020, because 2001 is the first year of the 21st century and there could be any possible changes that would happen in the late 2010s. Gen X people are usually the parents of the Homeland Generation, even though some of the early 2000's people have late Boomer parents and some of the mid/late 2010's people have early Millennial parents.

"Homelander" works really well for those of us born 1993. I'm not going to extend it in other directions since I don't know if other people are going to identify with it.

I was 8 when 9/11 happened, 10 when the Iraq War started, and still in high school when the Great Recession hit. "American Idiot" in 2004 was my introduction to teenage angst.

People describe Gen Y as having lived through the optimistic 90s and expecting the same for when they came of age. I don't feel like I lived very long in that era, my childhood was one of political instability and uncertainty. When I was in high school I was told to go into STEM or get a trade or else I'd be homeless on the streets, while Gen Y born few years before me were told they could be whatever they wanted and to chase a job they'd enjoy. I don't think it's a coincidence either that around the time people my age came of age, the political turbulence we associate with the 2010s started. We got Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, more successful LGBT movement, new wave feminists, SJWs, Bernie Sanders, Justin Trudeau, Idle No More (Canadian First Nations' rights movement) etc. all in my five years of university (2011-2016). Boomers have always been defined by things like hippies, Vietnam protests and the like. I like to identify my generation with the ones who are leading all these new civil rights movements as well.

"Homelander" works really well for those of us born 1993. I'm not going to extend it in other directions since I don't know if other people are going to identify with it.

I was 8 when 9/11 happened, 10 when the Iraq War started, and still in high school when the Great Recession hit. "American Idiot" in 2004 was my introduction to teenage angst.

People describe Gen Y as having lived through the optimistic 90s and expecting the same for when they came of age. I don't feel like I lived very long in that era, my childhood was one of political instability and uncertainty. When I was in high school I was told to go into STEM or get a trade or else I'd be homeless on the streets, while Gen Y born few years before me were told they could be whatever they wanted and to chase a job they'd enjoy. I don't think it's a coincidence either that around the time people my age came of age, the political turbulence we associate with the 2010s started. We got Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, more successful LGBT movement, new wave feminists, SJWs, Bernie Sanders, Justin Trudeau, Idle No More (Canadian First Nations' rights movement) etc. all in my five years of university (2011-2016). Boomers have always been defined by things like hippies, Vietnam protests and the like. I like to identify my generation with the ones who are leading all these new civil rights movements as well.


Didn't think events like 9/11 or Iraq War really applied to those born in Canada. But hey shows how little I know.

"Homelander" works really well for those of us born 1993. I'm not going to extend it in other directions since I don't know if other people are going to identify with it.

I was 8 when 9/11 happened, 10 when the Iraq War started, and still in high school when the Great Recession hit. "American Idiot" in 2004 was my introduction to teenage angst.

People describe Gen Y as having lived through the optimistic 90s and expecting the same for when they came of age. I don't feel like I lived very long in that era, my childhood was one of political instability and uncertainty. When I was in high school I was told to go into STEM or get a trade or else I'd be homeless on the streets, while Gen Y born few years before me were told they could be whatever they wanted and to chase a job they'd enjoy. I don't think it's a coincidence either that around the time people my age came of age, the political turbulence we associate with the 2010s started. We got Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, more successful LGBT movement, new wave feminists, SJWs, Bernie Sanders, Justin Trudeau, Idle No More (Canadian First Nations' rights movement) etc. all in my five years of university (2011-2016). Boomers have always been defined by things like hippies, Vietnam protests and the like. I like to identify my generation with the ones who are leading all these new civil rights movements as well.


Yeah... I don't think they're helping with civil rights. Also, they think that white straight males are terrible people. So, they can't be part of the modern Civil Rights era.

Didn't think events like 9/11 or Iraq War really applied to those born in Canada. But hey shows how little I know.


Oh they were very relevant.

1) 9/11 lead to the Afghanistan War which we were a part of. Pulling out of Afghanistan was actually a big reason why the socialist/social democratic party did so well in the 2011 election, which was the first election I and people born 1990-1993 voted in. It was the first time the youth vote was relevant in probably over 20 years.
2) The Iraq War was very unpopular here, and so our Québécois/French speaking left-wing Prime Minister said no to sending troops, which was popular in his home province but a mixed reaction elsewhere. People im his party were split on the issue and there was a huge raucous which eventually lead to a party coup of sorts, and the PM stepped down. The new government was rocked by scandal and then the Conservatives won the next election and would rule for the next 10 years.
3) Great recession affected my province terribly, the Western provinces got off easier though. I live in a "rust belt" province like Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania etc. are. It was all about manufacturing and the auto industry until the recession happened and they all left for Mexico and China.

"Homelander" works really well for those of us born 1993. I'm not going to extend it in other directions since I don't know if other people are going to identify with it.

I was 8 when 9/11 happened, 10 when the Iraq War started, and still in high school when the Great Recession hit. "American Idiot" in 2004 was my introduction to teenage angst.

People describe Gen Y as having lived through the optimistic 90s and expecting the same for when they came of age. I don't feel like I lived very long in that era, my childhood was one of political instability and uncertainty. When I was in high school I was told to go into STEM or get a trade or else I'd be homeless on the streets, while Gen Y born few years before me were told they could be whatever they wanted and to chase a job they'd enjoy. I don't think it's a coincidence either that around the time people my age came of age, the political turbulence we associate with the 2010s started. We got Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, more successful LGBT movement, new wave feminists, SJWs, Bernie Sanders, Justin Trudeau, Idle No More (Canadian First Nations' rights movement) etc. all in my five years of university (2011-2016). Boomers have always been defined by things like hippies, Vietnam protests and the like. I like to identify my generation with the ones who are leading all these new civil rights movements as well.
Wow :o. The bolded statements are very different from me probably because i'm in the U.S. and I'm in the same age range as you. I've never felt like a homelander because most of my childhood was over before the political instability and uncertainty. Even more, when I was in HS, I was never told those statements nor were anyone else in my classes that you spoke of. I can now see why the homeland generation began earlier in Canada because of everything you mentioned.

Wow :o. The bolded statements are very different from me probably because i'm in the U.S. and I'm in the same age range as you. I've never felt like a homelander because most of my childhood was over before the political instability and uncertainty. Even more, when I was in HS, I was never told those statements nor were anyone else in my classes that you spoke of. I can now see why the homeland generation began earlier in Canada because of everything you mentioned.


Weren't you also 8 when 9/11 happened? :o I don't know if people consider 8 years old to be toward the end of childhood haha, 8 is still little! Your opinions on the world were yet to be formed :P and the Great Recession was way worse in the US than in Canada, though I don't know how strict the teachers in the US are.

Weren't you also 8 when 9/11 happened? :o I don't know if people consider 8 years old to be toward the end of childhood haha, 8 is still little! Your opinions on the world were yet to be formed :P and the Great Recession was way worse in the US than in Canada, though I don't know how strict the teachers in the US are.


Towards the end of childhood would be your late childhood (ages 11-12). People who were elementary schoolers (5-10) didn't have an opinion or a good understanding of the world around them yet. As for US teachers some are strict some or not. Depends on who you get.

Although most people who were in elementary school by the time 9/11 happened were teenagers by the time the great recession hit in 2008-2009. So there is that.

Towards the end of childhood would be your late childhood (ages 11-12). People who were elementary schoolers (5-10) didn't have an opinion or a good understanding of the world around them yet. As for US teachers some are strict some or not. Depends on who you get.

Although most people who were in elementary school by the time 9/11 happened were teenagers by the time the great recession hit in 2008-2009. So there is that.


Yeah 10/11 is when my opinions on the world started to form, right in the Iraq War era. When I was 8 I didn't care about anything other than what N64 game to rent next lol.

And yep. I was in Grade 4 when 9/11 happened, Grade 5 for the Iraq War, Grade 6 when Saddam Hussein was captured, Grade 7 during the 2004 election (both Canadian and American), Grade 8 during the London bombings and the Israel-Lebanon war, Grade 9 the economy went to crap but we thought it was going to be a small recession then, Grade 10 sh*t really started to hit the fans, Grade 11 was the Obama election and the worst of the recession, and Grade 12 was more or less still the recession era, but it was more hopeful because there was Obama. I consider all of those formative.