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Subject: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 2:35 pm
What era do you feel is better?
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: #Infinity on 11/19/15 at 3:00 pm
The economy of the mid-2010s is a lot more robust, but the early 2010s were FAR better pop culturally. 2010 is my favorite year in music of the 21st century so far, Breaking Bad was still on TV during the early 2010s, and online web series like AVGN, Smosh, and Nostalgia Critic were still in their prime. Technology also seemed to still be headed in a fairly interesting direction and wasn't just all about trendy Instagram and Twitter garbage. The mid-2010s just seem completely soulless to me, with both music and TV being pretty bland, not to mention the Marvel Cinematic Universe films are not as brilliant as everybody makes them out to be. I also hate the direction fashion appears to have been going since 2012.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 3:27 pm
The economy of the mid-2010s is a lot more robust, but the early 2010s were FAR better pop culturally. 2010 is my favorite year in music of the 21st century so far, Breaking Bad was still on TV during the early 2010s, and online web series like AVGN, Smosh, and Nostalgia Critic were still in their prime. Technology also seemed to still be headed in a fairly interesting direction and wasn't just all about trendy Instagram and Twitter garbage. The mid-2010s just seem completely soulless to me, with both music and TV being pretty bland, not to mention the Marvel Cinematic Universe films are not as brilliant as everybody makes them out to be. I also hate the direction fashion appears to have been going since 2012.
I perfer mid 2010s, early 2010s was so boring and hollow, aside from some nice dancepop from Gaga,TaioCruz etc
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: mqg96 on 11/19/15 at 3:30 pm
From a young adult's viewpoint, definitely what the entire early 2010's offered in general. 2010 & 2011 had the great music and apps. 2012 & 2013 had the epic movies.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 3:37 pm
From a young adult's viewpoint, definitely what the entire early 2010's offered in general. 2010 & 2011 had the great music and apps. 2012 & 2013 had the epic movies.
I mean do not get me wrong 2010 had great hits as well as some of 2011, but after that it was mostly mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, tv during this time was bland except for like breaking bad and early Walking dead, I will agree internet was less saturated than it is now, but overall early 2010s feel like this blank empty hallway, and the mid 2010s feel like this colorful pink painting.
Also because the mid 2010s atmosphere feels pretty close to the mid 2000s, aside from apps and fashion.
Theres shows on TV like scream queens which is very mid 2000s ish,
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Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Howard on 11/19/15 at 3:41 pm
What era do you feel is better?
I'm going to say the early 2010's.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Emman on 11/19/15 at 3:48 pm
I don't notice much of a significant difference between 2010 and 2015(at least in terms of fashion, music, design/style, ect.)
Just different ratios of the same thing pop culturally, there hasn't been a significant breakthrough in popular music since like the '90s.
Now in the sociopolitical sense a whole lot has seemed to change, OWS, Arab Spring, ISIS, Ferguson and racial unrest, ect.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: SpyroKev on 11/19/15 at 3:49 pm
The Early 2010s. As I now realize, the vibe was there. I graduated high school that year. So, I was still in close connection to my last best friends I made that year I'm not in anymore. It was a fantastic graduation. The classic YouTube layout wasn't completely redesigned by Google. Drake's old hits and Sure Thing by Miguel define that year in music for me. I had fun during 2011-13, but the nostalgia isn't there yet. Its definitely there in 2010 though.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 3:51 pm
I don't notice much of a significant difference between 2010 and 2015(at least in terms of fashion, music, design/style, ect.)
Just different ratios of the same thing pop culturally, there hasn't been a significant breakthrough in popular music since like the '90s.
Now in the sociopolitical sense a whole lot has seemed to change, OWS, Arab Spring, ISIS, Ferguson and racial unrest, ect.
There is a huge difference in fashion, in 2010 you had 80s influenced clothing neon etc, in 2015 you have flannel around waist 90s influenced clothing such as crop tops fuzzy sweaters, there is a huge difference.
Watch the Iggy Fancy video then watch any 2010 music video.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 3:53 pm
The Early 2010s. As I now realize, the vibe was there. I graduated high school that year. So, I was still in close connection to my last best friends I made that year I'm not in anymore. It was a fantastic graduation. The classic YouTube layout wasn't completely redesigned by Google. Drake's old hits and Sure Thing by Miguel define that year in music for me. I had fun during 2011-13, but the nostalgia isn't there yet. Its definitely there in 2010 though.
I might be the only one here who perfers the mid 10s lol
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Emman on 11/19/15 at 4:02 pm
There is a huge difference in fashion, in 2010 you had 80s influenced clothing neon etc, in 2015 you have flannel around waist 90s influenced clothing such as crop tops fuzzy sweaters, there is a huge difference.
Watch the Iggy Fancy video then watch any 2010 music video.
What about non retro fashion, just seems like perennial staples to me(jeans, t shirt, sneakers, ect).
Nothing about this decade in terms of fashion(and a lot other things too) seems unique or original at all, just one rehash after
another. Everything seems stagnant, whether it's the economy, politics, music, fashion, car design, tech, movie remakes, ect.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 4:05 pm
What about non retro fashion, just seems like perennial staples to me(jeans, t shirt, sneakers, ect).
Nothing about this decade in terms of fashion(and a lot other things too) seems unique or original at all, just one rehash after
another. Everything seems stagnant, whether it's the economy, politics, music, fashion, car design, tech, movie remakes, ect.
Well rehash you are right, but for early 2010s fashion it was mostly 80s neon mixed in with urban outfitters/American Aprreal, while 2013-2015 has been mostly 90s styles straight on (doc martens, flannel) the tech does seem stagnant tho, but tech in the mid years is usually stagnant see IE (1995-1997) (2004-2007)
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 4:06 pm
What about non retro fashion, just seems like perennial staples to me(jeans, t shirt, sneakers, ect).
Nothing about this decade in terms of fashion(and a lot other things too) seems unique or original at all, just one rehash after
another. Everything seems stagnant, whether it's the economy, politics, music, fashion, car design, tech, movie remakes, ect.
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aside from the fuzzy hat/kangoo everything in this video fit what someone would wear in 2014
That and this song was on the radio which is like a mid 2000s throwback
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Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: bchris02 on 11/19/15 at 6:03 pm
It depends on how old you are. People my age (born in 85) tend to prefer the early '10s. 90s babies who are in their teens and early twenties in 2015 tend to prefer the mid '10s. There are exceptions to this but that is generally what I've seen.
I really liked the early '10s but don't care a lot for the current era, especially the music. In the early '10s it felt like we were really on the edge of something new and exciting in pop culture. Music was getting better and better until 2013 when it shifted to boring teen pop.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 6:45 pm
It depends on how old you are. People my age (born in 85) tend to prefer the early '10s. 90s babies who are in their teens and early twenties in 2015 tend to prefer the mid '10s. There are exceptions to this but that is generally what I've seen.
I really liked the early '10s but don't care a lot for the current era, especially the music. In the early '10s it felt like we were really on the edge of something new and exciting in pop culture. Music was getting better and better until 2013 when it shifted to boring teen pop.
Born 89
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Emman on 11/19/15 at 7:30 pm
It depends on how old you are. People my age (born in 85) tend to prefer the early '10s. 90s babies who are in their teens and early twenties in 2015 tend to prefer the mid '10s. There are exceptions to this but that is generally what I've seen.
I really liked the early '10s but don't care a lot for the current era, especially the music. In the early '10s it felt like we were really on the edge of something new and exciting in pop culture. Music was getting better and better until 2013 when it shifted to boring teen pop.
Yeah there was a short EDM surge that lasted from '09 to '12, it seemed like it would lead to something new and "21st century" in pop culture but it just kind of sputtered out. Dubstep wobble basses were even featured in some mainstream pop songs in '11 and '12, but then it turned into boring retro pop, tween pop, and trap 8-P. What funny about trap is that it was semi popular in the early '00s, it's quite an old style already.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: bchris02 on 11/19/15 at 7:37 pm
Yeah there was a short EDM surge that lasted from '09 to '12, it seemed like it would lead to something new and "21st century" in pop culture but it just kind of sputtered out. Dubstep wobble basses were even featured in some mainstream pop songs in '11 and '12, but then it turned into boring retro pop, tween pop, and trap 8-P. What funny about trap is that it was semi popular in the early '00s, it's quite an old style already.
This.
When the dubstep beats starting making their way into Top 40 songs in 2011 and 2012, I thought music was going someplace completely new and different than what we had before. It's unfortunate that it sputtered out.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: JordanK1982 on 11/19/15 at 8:49 pm
I didn't like 2012 pop culturally but it was a pretty good year for me personally so... I guess I like the early 10's more or whatever.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: #Infinity on 11/19/15 at 8:59 pm
It depends on how old you are. People my age (born in 85) tend to prefer the early '10s. 90s babies who are in their teens and early twenties in 2015 tend to prefer the mid '10s. There are exceptions to this but that is generally what I've seen.
That's interesting, I would have thought people my age, born in the early 90s, would have preferred the early 2010s, considering we were turning 20 and well into our college years by the time mid-2010s culture entered full swing. Then again, a lot of people in my college class seemed to really love binge-watching Orange Is the New Black, House of Cards, etc., and don't mind posting lots of complaints about world injustices all over their Facebook (or Twitter) pages.
I really liked the early '10s but don't care a lot for the current era, especially the music. In the early '10s it felt like we were really on the edge of something new and exciting in pop culture. Music was getting better and better until 2013 when it shifted to boring teen pop.
Yeah, the music has been quite a bummer this era, perfectly reflecting the shallow, unimaginative mindset society has spiraled into. As a music fan, it leaves me with no choice but to collect albums from decades past.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: bchris02 on 11/19/15 at 10:00 pm
Yeah, the music has been quite a bummer this era, perfectly reflecting the shallow, unimaginative mindset society has spiraled into. As a music fan, it leaves me with no choice but to collect albums from decades past.
I've had people tell me the reason I don't like today's music is because I am past the prime age for top 40, but its telling when people like yourself and mqg96 who are just the right age for today's music also think its bad. That means it really is bad.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/19/15 at 11:10 pm
That's interesting, I would have thought people my age, born in the early 90s, would have preferred the early 2010s, considering we were turning 20 and well into our college years by the time mid-2010s culture entered full swing. Then again, a lot of people in my college class seemed to really love binge-watching Orange Is the New Black, House of Cards, etc., and don't mind posting lots of complaints about world injustices all over their Facebook (or Twitter) pages.
Yeah, the music has been quite a bummer this era, perfectly reflecting the shallow, unimaginative mindset society has spiraled into. As a music fan, it leaves me with no choice but to collect albums from decades past.
mid 2010s is better and I was born in late 80s
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Mat1991 on 11/20/15 at 12:08 pm
There is a huge difference in fashion, in 2010 you had 80s influenced clothing neon etc, in 2015 you have flannel around waist 90s influenced clothing such as crop tops fuzzy sweaters, there is a huge difference.
Watch the Iggy Fancy video then watch any 2010 music video.
One thing about the "flannel around the waist" thing...
In the '90s, it was a unisex trend. Today, I mostly see it worn by women, and it's very common for it to be worn in a kind of "sexy" style, e.g. with a crop top or short shorts.
Another thing I've noticed about this '90s revival is that it seems to overwhelmingly target women, and a lot of the revived trends have this sexier, slinkier twist.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: JordanK1982 on 11/20/15 at 12:19 pm
One thing about the "flannel around the waist" thing...
In the '90s, it was a unisex trend. Today, I mostly see it worn by women, and it's very common for it to be worn in a kind of "sexy" style, e.g. with a crop top or short shorts.
Another thing I've noticed about this '90s revival is that it seems to overwhelmingly target women, and a lot of the revived trends have this sexier, slinkier twist.
I've noticed that, too. Why is the trend so focused on women? Also, why's everyone forget that flannel around the waist (or flannel in general) was something Punk and Metal kids did back in the 80's? People act like it was exclusive to the 90's.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Slim95 on 11/20/15 at 4:14 pm
So far I prefer the mid 2010s due to personal reasons although I did enjoy early 2010 a lot. In terms of music and pop culture though they're very similar to me. Technology is way better in the mid 2010's of course, very powerful smartphones and gadgets now. More variety of social media sites like Periscope, Snap Chat, Meerkat, etc. in the mid 2010s which I like. But we still have almost two years left of the mid 2010s so a lot can still happen.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Slim95 on 11/20/15 at 4:19 pm
A lot of people on these forums are mentioning some big shift in music in 2012 and 2013. I honestly did not see it. Although 2013 had a lot of unique sounds to music the disco fad. But electro pop is still popular today as it was in late 00's and early 10's, we just have a little more variety (hip-hop trap, boy and girl groups, adult indie pop, etc.) in the charts today than we did back then.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Mat1991 on 11/20/15 at 4:22 pm
I've noticed that, too. Why is the trend so focused on women? Also, why's everyone forget that flannel around the waist (or flannel in general) was something Punk and Metal kids did back in the 80's? People act like it was exclusive to the 90's.
I've noticed that "retro revivals" have always seemed to target women more than men. Maybe historically fashion was more varied for women? I'm not sure.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: bchris02 on 11/20/15 at 5:19 pm
A lot of people on these forums are mentioning some big shift in music in 2012 and 2013. I honestly did not see it. Although 2013 had a lot of unique sounds to music the disco fad. But electro pop is still popular today as it was in late 00's and early 10's, we just have a little more variety (hip-hop trap, boy and girl groups, adult indie pop, etc.) in the charts today than we did back then.
There's a pretty big difference between EDM-infused teen pop post-2013 like Ariana Grande, Ellie Goulding, Carly Rae Jepsen, new Taylor Swift, etc and early '10s electropop like Lady Gaga, Ke$ha, and Katy Perry. When you add in the disco revival, yes, the music is quite different from 2013 onward than it was in the early '10s.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: ocarinafan96 on 11/20/15 at 5:48 pm
So far I prefer the mid 2010s due to personal reasons although I did enjoy early 2010 a lot. In terms of music and pop culture though they're very similar to me. Technology is way better in the mid 2010's of course, very powerful smartphones and gadgets now. More variety of social media sites like Periscope, Snap Chat, Meerkat, etc. in the mid 2010s which I like. But we still have almost two years left of the mid 2010s so a lot can still happen.
I'm with you on that one. Ever since senior year of high school which was the 2013-2014 school year for me, and especially since o started college my personal life has been a million times better than it was in the early 10's when I was in high school and going through peer pressure and silly crap like that. Although I do have a soft spot for the pop culture from that era, so that's one aspect of the early 10's I prefer from the mid 10's
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: JordanK1982 on 11/20/15 at 9:31 pm
I've noticed that "retro revivals" have always seemed to target women more than men. Maybe historically fashion was more varied for women? I'm not sure.
I'm not sure, either. What I do know is that these nostalgia movements always get it wrong but this 90's nostalgia is the worst of all. It's the most obnoxious.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: musicguy93 on 11/21/15 at 1:16 am
One thing about the "flannel around the waist" thing...
In the '90s, it was a unisex trend. Today, I mostly see it worn by women, and it's very common for it to be worn in a kind of "sexy" style, e.g. with a crop top or short shorts.
Another thing I've noticed about this '90s revival is that it seems to overwhelmingly target women, and a lot of the revived trends have this sexier, slinkier twist.
Exactly, it's a superficial adaptation of 90s fashion. I'll be honest, 2010s fashion makes me want to vomit. Both men and women's fashion seem very robotic. This is why I really hope all this revivalists stuff dies down. I'm fine with certain elements of previous decades being implemented, however, what's going on now is just laziness, on the part of fashion designers.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: JordanK1982 on 11/21/15 at 1:48 am
Exactly, it's a superficial adaptation of 90s fashion. I'll be honest, 2010s fashion makes me want to vomit. Both men and women's fashion seem very robotic. This is why I really hope all this revivalists stuff dies down. I'm fine with certain elements of previous decades being implemented, however, what's going on now is just laziness, on the part of fashion designers.
Me, too. Why does everyone want skin tight clothing that doesn't flatter them? They look like ass!
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: ArcticFox on 11/22/15 at 9:12 am
Mid 2010s, for a multitude of reasons. Better economy, better music (mostly), and better atmosphere.
People seem to forget that the early 2010s were in a state of despair. There was very little hope. People thought that America was doomed, the air reeked of pessimism. And this isn't just a product of my then-circumstances. As a matter of fact, my personal life has been great the whole decade.
The music is a mixed bag, leaning towards the negative. I thought 2010 was alright, but there was plenty of awful music back then such as anything by Taio Cruz, Jason Derulo, Justin Bieber, Lil Wayne, and standalone songs like "Hey Soul Sister", " Teach Me How to Dougie", "Rude Boy", " Bedrock", "Break even", etc. I remember strongly disliking music in 2011. LMFAO? Hot Chelle Rae? Cobra Starship? 8-P It wasn't until there was some good distance between me that year to appreciate more of it's hits, many of them I don't remember. 2012 was this miserable black hole of musical hideousness. There was something seriously wrong with the industry that year. You had Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj's worst music, Lil Wayne (again), One Direction, Fun, Macklemore, Katy Perry, Carly Rae Jepsen, and that abysmal dubstep acts such as Skrillex! >:( I got so pissed off by mainstream music that I stopped listening to it in late 2012; I set my sights on alternative radio, and it was around this time that I turned to '90s music. Many of the songs that I heard on alternative stations crossed over to Top 40 so it's not like I ever really escaped it. 2013 was almost just as bad. It was the peak of social media/meme-oriented hitmaking which started in 2012. This caused a lot of terrible songs to reach high chart positions. There are too many to name. On the positive, the alternative acts that I was hearing on the radio were receiving major mainstream attention. Imagine Dragons, Lana Del Rey, Lorde, American Authors, and The Neighbourhood are what everybody was talking about. Paramore and OneRepublic released great music that year and next as well.
Since 2014 music has seen some big improvements, although of course it could be better. Indie has gone through a slight shift in sound, electropop and bro-country are almost dead, real R&B is coming back, and perhaps more interestingly, we have a lot of dance music that isn't meant for dancing. Almost all of the good music, which is now a majority in my eyes, has a minimalistic sound. Yes, teen pop and hip-hop are still around, which is unfortunate, but now it is no longer so popular that you can't escape it. There are plenty of alternatives. I'm even excited as some of my favorite artists are now either working on new albums or just released them. 25, Delirium, and Know-It-All are some new favorites of mine, and Paramore, Bruno Mars, Coldplay, and OneRepublic are working on their next albums which has me excited. I've also been tuned in to new country artists such as Cam and Chris Stapleton.
Television has remained the same in both eras, just less reality TV in the latter. The movies are equal: the whole decade has been great. I strongly dislike counterculture fashion, but mainstream fashion is actually really good except for some of the pant styles (namely joggers and skinny jeans). Hence why I wear straight-up, regular fit pants instead, with as high of a rise as I can find (10.5" at minimum). I also wear a more timeless hairsshrinkThink Brad Pitt in Seven without the facial hair.
As I clearly and vividly remember, the early 2010s were what made me lose interest in mainstream music, the mid 2010s are what got me out of it. Although I think the 1990s are far superior, the present is satisfactory. I believe the good will continue to grow, the bad will continue to shrink, and I am looking forward to next year in music. With the summer Olympics and the presidential elections, 2016 is going to be a very interesting year indeed, and I think it's going to be on the good side!
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/22/15 at 10:55 am
Mid 2010s, for a multitude of reasons. Better economy, better music (mostly), and better atmosphere.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/22/15 at 10:57 am
Mid 2010s, for a multitude of reasons. Better economy, better music (mostly), and better atmosphere.
People seem to forget that the early 2010s were in a state of despair. There was very little hope. People thought that America was doomed, the air reeked of pessimism. And this isn't just a product of my then-circumstances. As a matter of fact, my personal life has been great the whole decade.
The music is a mixed bag, leaning towards the negative. I thought 2010 was alright, but there was plenty of awful music back then such as anything by Taio Cruz, Jason Derulo, Justin Bieber, Lil Wayne, and standalone songs like "Hey Soul Sister", " Teach Me How to Dougie", "Rude Boy", " Bedrock", "Break even", etc. I remember strongly disliking music in 2011. LMFAO? Hot Chelle Rae? Cobra Starship? 8-P It wasn't until there was some good distance between me that year to appreciate more of it's hits, many of them I don't remember. 2012 was this miserable black hole of musical hideousness. There was something seriously wrong with the industry that year. You had Justin Bieber, Nicki Minaj's worst music, Lil Wayne (again), One Direction, Fun, Macklemore, Katy Perry, Carly Rae Jepsen, and that abysmal dubstep acts such as Skrillex! >:( I got so pissed off by mainstream music that I stopped listening to it in late 2012; I set my sights on alternative radio, and it was around this time that I turned to '90s music. Many of the songs that I heard on alternative stations crossed over to Top 40 so it's not like I ever really escaped it. 2013 was almost just as bad. It was the peak of social media/meme-oriented hitmaking which started in 2012. This caused a lot of terrible songs to reach high chart positions. There are too many to name. On the positive, the alternative acts that I was hearing on the radio were receiving major mainstream attention. Imagine Dragons, Lana Del Rey, Lorde, American Authors, and The Neighbourhood are what everybody was talking about. Paramore and OneRepublic released great music that year and next as well.
Since 2014 music has seen some big improvements, although of course it could be better. Indie has gone through a slight shift in sound, electropop and bro-country are almost dead, real R&B is coming back, and perhaps more interestingly, we have a lot of dance music that isn't meant for dancing. Almost all of the good music, which is now a majority in my eyes, has a minimalistic sound. Yes, teen pop and hip-hop are still around, which is unfortunate, but now it is no longer so popular that you can't escape it. There are plenty of alternatives. I'm even excited as some of my favorite artists are now either working on new albums or just released them. 25, Delirium, and Know-It-All are some new favorites of mine, and Paramore, Bruno Mars, Coldplay, and OneRepublic are working on their next albums which has me excited. I've also been tuned in to new country artists such as Cam and Chris Stapleton.
Television has remained the same in both eras, just less reality TV in the latter. The movies are equal: the whole decade has been great. I strongly dislike counterculture fashion, but mainstream fashion is actually really good except for some of the pant styles (namely joggers and skinny jeans). Hence why I wear straight-up, regular fit pants instead, with as high of a rise as I can find (10.5" at minimum). I also wear a more timeless hairsshrinkThink Brad Pitt in Seven without the facial hair.
As I clearly and vividly remember, the early 2010s were what made me lose interest in mainstream music, the mid 2010s are what got me out of it. Although I think the 1990s are far superior, the present is satisfactory. I believe the good will continue to grow, the bad will continue to shrink, and I am looking forward to next year in music. With the summer Olympics and the presidential elections, 2016 is going to be a very interesting year indeed, and I think it's going to be on the good side!
the 4 5 6 years always have a good economy your analysis is a1
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/22/15 at 11:52 am
the 4 5 6 years always have a good economy your analysis is a1
Except the 70s!! ;D Also the late 90s economy was on fire!
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 11/22/15 at 12:05 pm
Lifestyle wise for me, I enjoy the mid 2010s A LOT MORE!!! The early 2010s felt very cynical and sad, especially if you were teenager at the time like myself; maybe for the young 20 somethings at the time it seemed more upbeat, but not for me.
Culturally it's a different story, I loved 2010 for music, it's the only year I really really like for music so far, and that's sad. Television is the same. Movies so far were better in the early 2010s.
Politically speaking, I'm not sure. The early 2010s saw a TERRIBLE economy, people honestly thought ''America's best days were behind them'', mixed reception for Obama's first tenure. Near the end of the early 2010s we saw theater shootings and freakin elementary school shootings for god's sake.
Right now the economy is a little bit better, the atmosphere feels a little bit better..... we're just not there yet, as a matter of fact we're arguably not even close. We have had the racial tensions/issues especially here in Missouri with the Michael Brown death, the Mizzou scandal, Eric Garner death in NY, and EVEN more school shootings, Charleston church shootings, Baltimore shooting etc. etc.
But overall, lifestyle wise for me would be the mid 2010s, but culturally probably early.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Slim95 on 11/22/15 at 12:14 pm
The economy is much more terrible in the mid 2010s than the early 2010s where I live. In fact it's even worse here now than the recession of 2009.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Ripley on 11/22/15 at 12:36 pm
2010 is my favorite year in music of the 21st century so far, Breaking Bad was still on TV during the early 2010s, and online web series like AVGN, Smosh, and Nostalgia Critic were still in their prime.
I miss AVGN. It was fun back then still. Now he has it all in one channel, Cinnamassacre, which I don't see why he did it. But he doesn't get on as much. I see he's done things with different companies including Spike since he was our go to for video game and horror movie commentator. So yes he's been busy but when these tube stars get big often they forget abut their fans back where they came from. I can give other examples. He certainly doesn't forget but he doesn't seem to care. I mean when he does post something else it isn't as good. Its like he doesn't care to put as much thought into it. I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it's just sad really. I miss having a good laugh with James.
The early part of the decade was definitely better pop culture wise. Personally wise as well.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: #Infinity on 11/22/15 at 1:43 pm
I miss AVGN. It was fun back then still. Now he has it all in one channel, Cinnamassacre, which I don't see why he did it. But he doesn't get on as much. I see he's done things with different companies including Spike since he was our go to for video game and horror movie commentator. So yes he's been busy but when these tube stars get big often they forget abut their fans back where they came from. I can give other examples. He certainly doesn't forget but he doesn't seem to care. I mean when he does post something else it isn't as good. Its like he doesn't care to put as much thought into it. I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it's just sad really. I miss having a good laugh with James.
Well, to be fair, I think he has far broader filmmaking interests than just AVGN, which started off merely as a casual joke but then by accident turned him into an online sensation. When he does release the occasional Nerd video, it's usually still wonderful; if anything, it feels like he matured a lot as a writer after shooting Angry Video Game Nerd: The Movie in Los Angeles. Not to mention, he has a daughter now to raise. He still does Monster Madness every year and posts let's plays with Mike every Monday, so he isn't totally inactive, I just miss the days when new Nerd videos would come out once or twice a month.
The early part of the decade was definitely better pop culture wise. Personally wise as well.
Yeah, I feel the same. Not only was music, film, technology way fresher in the early 2010s, I felt generally happier and more ambitious. Ever since after my high school graduation, things have just down-spiraled for me in general, a lot of it, I believe, due to how society has evolved since five years ago.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: SpyroKev on 11/22/15 at 5:13 pm
Since 2014 music has seen some big improvements, although of course it could be better. Indie has gone through a slight shift in sound, electropop and bro-country are almost dead, real R&B is coming back, and perhaps more interestingly, we have a lot of dance music that isn't meant for dancing. Almost all of the good music, which is now a majority in my eyes, has a minimalistic sound. Yes, teen pop and hip-hop are still around, which is unfortunate, but now it is no longer so popular that you can't escape it. There are plenty of alternatives. I'm even excited as some of my favorite artists are now either working on new albums or just released them. 25, Delirium, and Know-It-All are some new favorites of mine, and Paramore, Bruno Mars, Coldplay, and OneRepublic are working on their next albums which has me excited. I've also been tuned in to new country artists such as Cam and Chris Stapleton.
Do you think you can list those R&B artists? The only true R&B artists I know that released new music fairly recent is Jagged Edge.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: #Infinity on 11/22/15 at 5:24 pm
Do you think you can list those R&B artists? The only true R&B artists I know that released new music fairly recent is Jagged Edge.
Jodeci also released their first studio album in 20 years, with a sound faithful to their 90s material. Not that it made much of a chart impact, nor did any other actual r&b album released this year.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: SpyroKev on 11/22/15 at 6:07 pm
Jodeci also released their first studio album in 20 years, with a sound faithful to their 90s material. Not that it made much of a chart impact, nor did any other actual r&b album released this year.
Jodeci returning is really interesting. But yeah. Real music is boring to the newer generations. Its not surprising. At least Jodeci had their time, to. What ever amount of views they earn is what matter.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: mqg96 on 11/22/15 at 6:15 pm
Lifestyle wise for me, I enjoy the mid 2010s A LOT MORE!!! The early 2010s felt very cynical and sad, especially if you were teenager at the time like myself; maybe for the young 20 somethings at the time it seemed more upbeat, but not for me.
Culturally it's a different story, I loved 2010 for music, it's the only year I really really like for music so far, and that's sad. Television is the same. Movies so far were better in the early 2010s.
Politically speaking, I'm not sure. The early 2010s saw a TERRIBLE economy, people honestly thought ''America's best days were behind them'', mixed reception for Obama's first tenure. Near the end of the early 2010s we saw theater shootings and freakin elementary school shootings for god's sake.
Right now the economy is a little bit better, the atmosphere feels a little bit better..... we're just not there yet, as a matter of fact we're arguably not even close. We have had the racial tensions/issues especially here in Missouri with the Michael Brown death, the Mizzou scandal, Eric Garner death in NY, and EVEN more school shootings, Charleston church shootings, Baltimore shooting etc. etc.
But overall, lifestyle wise for me would be the mid 2010s, but culturally probably early.
Your thoughts lineup almost perfectly with mine too. Pop culturally it's early 2010's because of better music, great movies, apps, and better TV shows, but personal life it's the mid 2010's since we're in college instead of high school.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Fearsword on 11/22/15 at 6:16 pm
The economy is much more terrible in the mid 2010s than the early 2010s where I live. In fact it's even worse here now than the recession of 2009.
This. i live in Australia and our economy is a lot worse than it was during the GFC. We had a mining boom that lasted between the late 90s through early 10s and was a period of great economic prosperity for Australia. Unbelievably, Australia hasn't been in a recession sine 1991 but our unemployment rate is higher than it was during the GFC, largely due to our inept Liberal government who are only concerned about tax concessons to the well off.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: the2001 on 11/23/15 at 11:16 am
mid 2010s atmosphere > early 2010s
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: musicguy93 on 11/23/15 at 8:24 pm
Lifestyle wise for me, I enjoy the mid 2010s A LOT MORE!!! The early 2010s felt very cynical and sad, especially if you were teenager at the time like myself; maybe for the young 20 somethings at the time it seemed more upbeat, but not for me.
Culturally it's a different story, I loved 2010 for music, it's the only year I really really like for music so far, and that's sad. Television is the same. Movies so far were better in the early 2010s.
Politically speaking, I'm not sure. The early 2010s saw a TERRIBLE economy, people honestly thought ''America's best days were behind them'', mixed reception for Obama's first tenure. Near the end of the early 2010s we saw theater shootings and freakin elementary school shootings for god's sake.
Right now the economy is a little bit better, the atmosphere feels a little bit better..... we're just not there yet, as a matter of fact we're arguably not even close. We have had the racial tensions/issues especially here in Missouri with the Michael Brown death, the Mizzou scandal, Eric Garner death in NY, and EVEN more school shootings, Charleston church shootings, Baltimore shooting etc. etc.
But overall, lifestyle wise for me would be the mid 2010s, but culturally probably early.
There are things that I hate about mid 2010s culture. Like the fact that people are even more obsessed with social media, and seem to be stuck with their smartphones and tablets. There's selfies which really annoy me. And then there's fashion which is even worse than the early 2010s. Back in 2012, I was hoping the hipster influence would die by the mid 2010s, but it seems to have gotten stronger in 2013-2015. There's also the SJW trend which has probably peaked by now. Hopefully these things don't continue into the late 2010s
Subject: will 2016 be a transition year?
Written By: sonic2005 on 11/27/15 at 11:30 pm
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Snozberries ETA:
Sonic2005 is asking "will 2016 be a transition year?"
Subject: Re: will 2016 be a transition year?
Written By: apollonia1986 on 11/27/15 at 11:32 pm
Transition into chaos if we get the wrong president in office. :(
Subject: Re: will 2016 be a transition year?
Written By: #Infinity on 11/27/15 at 11:51 pm
My guess is that it'll be similar to 1996 - the first two thirds are pretty much strictly mid-decade, but the last third will be when the decade's late era culture starts to really develop its identity, even though we'll still mostly be in the mid phase. There will be a brand new President of the United States elected in November, which is enough on its own to signal an important shift, but aside from the election, 2016 will probably turn out to be the twilight (but not death) of mid 2010s culture.
The upcoming film lineup is full of mid 2010s-style flicks; the industry's direction may quickly change, however, depending on whether the Marvel Cinematic Universe jumps the shark next year (which it may, given the recent departure of several key figures), as well as how much of a hit the upcoming Suicide Squad turns out to be. Let's not forget, either, that Star Wars is most likely going to completely dominate the remaining years of this decade. In fact, since Episode VII comes out in just a month, you could just as well argue that the transition into the late 2010s will have already taken off by the end of this year.
I think within a year, Nintendo will be a completely different company; I expect both Zelda Wii U and Star Fox U to be commercial flops based on the underwhelming performance of Skyward Sword for the Wii, and that Nintendo will be investing much more in their mobile titles than console releases; we'll probably see the official discontinuation of the Wii U sometime in 2017.
Other trend transformations are a matter of chance, but based on where we are right now, I think it will take at least several more months before late 2010s culture truly seeps in. At the same time, though, I'm pretty much confident that 2017 will be a late 2010s year and not a mid 2010s one.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: Shemp97 on 11/28/15 at 2:30 am
Early 2010s. The music for starters was catchier and had more variety as it was more or less a continuation of the late 00s trends. You still had artists like lady gaga and katy perry back with theur original personas,as well as the older non-trap style if hiphop that was dominated by Alternative and rappers just writing about different aspects of life.
Here in Canada were still in a recession, not to mention the '08 one was incredibly mild. We definitely have seen worse back in the 90s.
Being the early part of a decade, there wasn't alot of new content TV wise, most if what you watched was stuff from the 00s. I remember Harper's island and Supernatural tying me down every week. I always wanted to know what was going to happen next. Now I watch Grimm with my family, but it seems to take on a more episodic nature. And there aren't alot of shows on TV with as much intrigue nowadays. I'd even say the internet peaked then too. Youtubers had high production while still retaining attributes which made then entertaining. Film had Inception, very 00s and very unique.
Now in the mid 10s, all we have is the same repetitive sound on the radio, Alternative hiphop artists are abandoning the mid/late 00s hiphop revolution and succumbing to trap. Other genres aside the some smatterings of rock and disco aren't even a blip on the map anymore, and say goodbye to foreign artists making hits here after 2012.
It seems like corporation is taking over every respected youtuber. Some are Ebegging now while others made alterations to their style to appeal to wider audiences based on sponsor request.
Films, need I explain? Even Entertainment Tonight ran a segment critizing hollywoods lack of fresh ideas.
Early 2010s had it's downfalls, but it was still more old world than today and had more creativity.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s
Written By: ArcticFox on 11/28/15 at 3:46 am
Early 2010s. The music for starters was catchier and had more variety as it was more or less a continuation of the late 00s trends. You still had artists like lady gaga and katy perry back with theur original personas,as well as the older non-trap style if hiphop that was dominated by Alternative and rappers just writing about different aspects of life.
Here in Canada were still in a recession, not to mention the '08 one was incredibly mild. We definitely have seen worse back in the 90s.
Being the early part of a decade, there wasn't alot of new content TV wise, most if what you watched was stuff from the 00s. I remember Harper's island and Supernatural tying me down every week. I always wanted to know what was going to happen next. Now I watch Grimm with my family, but it seems to take on a more episodic nature. And there aren't alot of shows on TV with as much intrigue nowadays. I'd even say the internet peaked then too. Youtubers had high production while still retaining attributes which made then entertaining. Film had Inception, very 00s and very unique.
Now in the mid 10s, all we have is the same repetitive sound on the radio, Alternative hiphop artists are abandoning the mid/late 00s hiphop revolution and succumbing to trap. Other genres aside the some smatterings of rock and disco aren't even a blip on the map anymore, and say goodbye to foreign artists making hits here after 2012.
It seems like corporation is taking over every respected youtuber. Some are Ebegging now while others made alterations to their style to appeal to wider audiences based on sponsor request.
Films, need I explain? Even Entertainment Tonight ran a segment critizing hollywoods lack of fresh ideas.
Early 2010s had it's downfalls, but it was still more old world than today and had more creativity.
Um, no. The music of the early 2010s was anything but diverse. The early 2010s sounded all the same to me, and it lacks artistry and timelessness. No one is going to be listening to "Party Rock Anthem", "Gangnam Style", "Blah Blah Blah", "My First Kiss", "You Make Me Feel", "Club Can't Handle Me", "Just Can"t Get Enough", "On the Floor", "Tonight Tonight", "Some Nights", "We Are Young", "Call Me Maybe", "Somebody That I Used to Know", and "Glad You Came" in the next several decades. Hell, no one listens to them now because they were so damn terrible back then. I despised those songs when they were new and I refuse to listen to them even today. "Catchier"? That's not even a music term. It seems that you just want plain old pop music.
Television has been mostly lackluster since the early aughts, I rarely watched television in the early 2010s because I had no interest in anything that was on. It's largely the same today.
Are you kidding about hip-hop? That genre has sucked since 2002. Corporate involvement has leeched every ounce of authenticity and respectability that the genre had back in the 20th century. It's pretty obvious that we're never going to have another De La Soul or 2Pac again. Definitely not in the mainstream.
Why are you making such a big deal about YouTubers? All they do is film videos and post them online. If they want to make a career off of it, then it proves that they are lazy and don't want to actually learn a skill that they will need when the views stop coming. They are future losers who are investing in something that is fleeting.
Films weren't very original in the aughts either. As a matter of fact, originality in films has never been prevalent. All throughout the 20th century to present, films have always done the same repeated formulas throughout several decades, it's just that the Internet has made it more obvious now, whereas back in the '70s young people could have been completely ignorant of the past.
I find it ridiculously hilarious that you think the early 2010's were "creative". They were anything but creative. They were completely uncreative and uninteresting. I know what I'm talking about. I was there. I lived them.
Subject: Re: will 2016 be a transition year?
Written By: Howard on 11/28/15 at 7:00 am
What are we transitioning from? ???
Subject: will 2016 be a transition year?
Written By: snozberries on 11/28/15 at 12:40 pm
Re will 2016 be a transition year...
There are enough (or far too many) year discussing threads on the site.
The original poster said nothing to start a discussion... A ? Is not a fully formed thought.... Therefore I'm lhave merged this thread with the early 2010s - mid 2010s thread as it's the perfect spot to discuss the late 2010s without adding yet another thread to these boards.
Please make note of the subject line as they remain intact and will identify the original
Thread the post was made.
-Q-
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Slim95 on 11/28/15 at 12:48 pm
There is very little difference between the early and mid 2010s so far. This thread is acting like we're comparing two decades not a couple of years. ;D
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: snozberries on 11/28/15 at 1:11 pm
There is very little difference between the early and mid 2010s so far. This thread is acting like we're comparing two decades not a couple of years. ;D
I haven't read any of the other comments because this stolid bores me to tears but you win as what is probably the best observation in this entire thread!!!
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Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: musicguy93 on 11/28/15 at 2:34 pm
There is very little difference between the early and mid 2010s so far. This thread is acting like we're comparing two decades not a couple of years. ;D
Yeah, I honestly don't feel nostalgic over early 2010s music, because it's not too different from the mid 2010s. Personally I dislike both early 2010s music and mid 2010s music. However, I will say that the hipster style seems to more prevalent now (in 2013-2015, at least). In 2011-2012, it was developing in popularity, but did not have an effect on mainstream clothing. Though I think it's past it's peak now. And sites like Instagram and Tumblr (aka www.brainwash.com) seem to have grown in their influence, and there seems to be an overabundance of social media sites. Selfies seem to be more capitalized in the mid 2010s. Obviously they've existed long before now, but in the mid 2010s, they seem to have an influence on mainstream culture (ie., selfie stick). Overall I guess these aren't huge differences. Technology hasn't really developed that much in comparison to the early 2010s or even late 2000s. I guess it could be said that the early 2010s was sort of a blueprint of what the decade's culture would be like, while the mid 2010s is the peak.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: bchris02 on 11/28/15 at 7:27 pm
There is very little difference between the early and mid 2010s so far. This thread is acting like we're comparing two decades not a couple of years. ;D
I think there is enough difference that one can prefer the 2010-2012 culture over the 2013-Present culture. To sum it up in a nutshell, music of the early '10s was primarily targeted to Generation Y and in the mid-10s, Generation Z is the target. Radio Disney in 2010 sounded a lot like Top 40 does today. Same musical styles and everything. The target audience of Radio Disney are now teenagers and the target audience for Top 40, which is why Ariana Grande is so popular. I don't think there has been a radical shift or anything but there is a difference.
Music aside, there are fewer differences between the two eras. I consider 2011 the core early '10s year and that year had the same technology, the same obsession with social media, and the same hipster fad we have today. There were still some '00s holdouts that year but they were all but irrelevant.
One big difference is the mid '10s has a far more polarized and political-correctness-obsessed culture than the early '10s did. Of course, the culture war that has been happening since the 70s brought us to this point but today it seems like we are nearing a breaking point. In the early '10s it seemed like people were a little more easy going and less offended by absolutely everything.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: ocarinafan96 on 11/28/15 at 7:57 pm
I think there is enough difference that one can prefer the 2010-2012 culture over the 2013-Present culture. To sum it up in a nutshell, music of the early '10s was primarily targeted to Generation Y and in the mid-10s, Generation Z is the target. Radio Disney in 2010 sounded a lot like Top 40 does today. Same musical styles and everything. The target audience of Radio Disney are now teenagers and the target audience for Top 40, which is why Ariana Grande is so popular. I don't think there has been a radical shift or anything but there is a difference.
Music aside, there are fewer differences between the two eras. I consider 2011 the core early '10s year and that year had the same technology, the same obsession with social media, and the same hipster fad we have today. There were still some '00s holdouts that year but they were all but irrelevant.
One big difference is the mid '10s has a far more polarized and political-correctness-obsessed culture than the early '10s did. Of course, the culture war that has been happening since the 70s brought us to this point but today it seems like we are nearing a breaking point. In the early '10s it seemed like people were a little more easy going and less offended by absolutely everything.
This I where I fall. My teen years were for the most part during the Late 00's/Early 10's Electropop Era. I remember during the second half of my Junior year of High School that music was starting to change into the styles of today and by my Senior year we were firmly immersed in it. This is why I am sort of in the middle because while my high school years were spent in the Late Y Era so to speak, my College years are being spent in the Early Z Era. I guess I'm slightly more on the Y side, for personal reasons that is and of course my childhood memories that are very Y Orientated, but it still feels a bit weird being on the 'Dead Zone'
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: musicguy93 on 11/28/15 at 11:45 pm
I think there is enough difference that one can prefer the 2010-2012 culture over the 2013-Present culture. To sum it up in a nutshell, music of the early '10s was primarily targeted to Generation Y and in the mid-10s, Generation Z is the target. Radio Disney in 2010 sounded a lot like Top 40 does today. Same musical styles and everything. The target audience of Radio Disney are now teenagers and the target audience for Top 40, which is why Ariana Grande is so popular. I don't think there has been a radical shift or anything but there is a difference.
Music aside, there are fewer differences between the two eras. I consider 2011 the core early '10s year and that year had the same technology, the same obsession with social media, and the same hipster fad we have today. There were still some '00s holdouts that year but they were all but irrelevant.
One big difference is the mid '10s has a far more polarized and political-correctness-obsessed culture than the early '10s did. Of course, the culture war that has been happening since the 70s brought us to this point but today it seems like we are nearing a breaking point. In the early '10s it seemed like people were a little more easy going and less offended by absolutely everything.
I have mixed feelings on this.
Even though I was born in 1993, I never really liked early 2010s music. To me, both the early and mid 2010s have had terrible music. 2010 was okayish. 2011 was where I felt things were really going bad, and 2012-present (2015) is just unlistenable.
Not much really changed in terms of technology, although smartphones are a bit more commonplace than they were in 2010-2012. And we have pointless inventions like Google glasses. But nothing that groundbreaking has happened in technology in the mid 2010s that hasn't happened in the early 2010s or even the late 2000s.
On the other hand, the influence of social media has gone from annoying, to almost disturbing. There's too many unneeded social media sites, and people seem to be both overusing them and misusing them. Sites like Tumblr and Instagram are completely pointless, and only seem to dumb down society. And the hipster influence on fashion has gone way too far. I don't even want to wear the current fashion trends because, they look hideous and uncool to me. In 2011-2012, it was growing, but in 2013-2015, it really became over-saturated. On the plus side, I do think it's past its peak, and will probably decline in the late 2010s.
And as you mentioned, the whole SJW thing is really dominating the mid 2010s. Whether it continues to dominate the late 2010s, remains to be seen, though it seems as if a backlash is already forming.
I think the difference between the mid 2010s and late 2010s will be bigger than the difference between the mid 2010s and early 2010s. Kind of like how the mid 90s had more in common with the early 90s than the late 90s.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: bchris02 on 11/29/15 at 11:01 am
Not much really changed in terms of technology, although smartphones are a bit more commonplace than they were in 2010-2012. And we have pointless inventions like Google glasses. But nothing that groundbreaking has happened in technology in the mid 2010s that hasn't happened in the early 2010s or even the late 2000s.
For the past five years, technology has definitely progressed at a more evolutionary pace rather than the revolutions we saw every few years in the 90s and 00s. About the only big thing I can think of starting to gain steam right now is 4K TV.
On the other hand, the influence of social media has gone from annoying, to almost disturbing. There's too many unneeded social media sites, and people seem to be both overusing them and misusing them. Sites like Tumblr and Instagram are completely pointless, and only seem to dumb down society. And the hipster influence on fashion has gone way too far. I don't even want to wear the current fashion trends because, they look hideous and uncool to me. In 2011-2012, it was growing, but in 2013-2015, it really became over-saturated. On the plus side, I do think it's past its peak, and will probably decline in the late 2010s.
I agree with this. I have a Facebook because I need it for organizing events and stuff but would get rid of it if I could. I don't have a Twitter or an Instagram.
I wonder if eventually there will be a social media collapse like the dot-com collapse of the late '90s. I agree there are too many absolutely pointless sites and apps out there.
And as you mentioned, the whole SJW thing is really dominating the mid 2010s. Whether it continues to dominate the late 2010s, remains to be seen, though it seems as if a backlash is already forming.
I think some of this can be tied into the social media obsession. Social media is filled with confirmation bias and it causes people to not even consider or empathize with people on the other side of an issue. How can you blame them when their Facebook news feeds are filled with memes that paint the other side as pure evil. It's turned people very, very nasty towards people who don't share their views, especially on religion or social political issues.
I think the difference between the mid 2010s and late 2010s will be bigger than the difference between the mid 2010s and early 2010s. Kind of like how the mid 90s had more in common with the early 90s than the late 90s.
This is not true. Everything after 1993 had more in common with 2000 than it did 1990. I understand what you are trying to say though. The 2000s would have been a better example of that than the '90s. The thing is today, I don't really see any indication of a shift on the horizon.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: musicguy93 on 11/29/15 at 3:34 pm
For the past five years, technology has definitely progressed at a more evolutionary pace rather than the revolutions we saw every few years in the 90s and 00s. About the only big thing I can think of starting to gain steam right now is 4K TV.
I agree with this. I have a Facebook because I need it for organizing events and stuff but would get rid of it if I could. I don't have a Twitter or an Instagram.
I wonder if eventually there will be a social media collapse like the dot-com collapse of the late '90s. I agree there are too many absolutely pointless sites and apps out there.
I think some of this can be tied into the social media obsession. Social media is filled with confirmation bias and it causes people to not even consider or empathize with people on the other side of an issue. How can you blame them when their Facebook news feeds are filled with memes that paint the other side as pure evil. It's turned people very, very nasty towards people who don't share their views, especially on religion or social political issues.
This is not true. Everything after 1993 had more in common with 2000 than it did 1990. I understand what you are trying to say though. The 2000s would have been a better example of that than the '90s. The thing is today, I don't really see any indication of a shift on the horizon.
I wasn't really thinking of 1990 and 2000 as examples for comparison, to be honest. However I would say that 1995 had more in common with 1992, than it did with 1998. Same way 2015 will probably have more in common with 2012 than it will with 2018, when we look back at the decade.
When it comes to technology, I'm really not impressed, so far. Nothing really makes me go "WOW!", about this decade. Maybe 2016-2019 will be different.
Other than that I pretty much agree with your post.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: the2001 on 12/01/15 at 10:58 am
For the past five years, technology has definitely progressed at a more evolutionary pace rather than the revolutions we saw every few years in the 90s and 00s. About the only big thing I can think of starting to gain steam right now is 4K TV.
I agree with this. I have a Facebook because I need it for organizing events and stuff but would get rid of it if I could. I don't have a Twitter or an Instagram.
I wonder if eventually there will be a social media collapse like the dot-com collapse of the late '90s. I agree there are too many absolutely pointless sites and apps out there.
I think some of this can be tied into the social media obsession. Social media is filled with confirmation bias and it causes people to not even consider or empathize with people on the other side of an issue. How can you blame them when their Facebook news feeds are filled with memes that paint the other side as pure evil. It's turned people very, very nasty towards people who don't share their views, especially on religion or social political issues.
This is not true. Everything after 1993 had more in common with 2000 than it did 1990. I understand what you are trying to say though. The 2000s would have been a better example of that than the '90s. The thing is today, I don't really see any indication of a shift on the horizon.
a shift is happening u just do not see it yet
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Slim95 on 12/01/15 at 10:56 pm
I hope that the later part of the mid 10's and the late 10's has a more laid back vibe and slows things down. I did notice music has slowed down and became less party and electro compared to the early 2010's, but I hope it goes even further so we get that relaxed vibe back from the 90's and 2000s.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: musicguy93 on 12/02/15 at 3:46 pm
I hope that the later part of the mid 10's and the late 10's has a more laid back vibe and slows things down. I did notice music has slowed down and became less party and electro compared to the early 2010's, but I hope it goes even further so we get that relaxed vibe back from the 90's and 2000s.
While I can't promise that we'll get back the same vibe the 90's and 00's had, I can say that it'll probably be an improvement over 2012-2015. Heck, even 2015 was slightly better than 2014. I hope movies and tv shows also improve.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: bchris02 on 12/02/15 at 4:38 pm
I hope that the later part of the mid 10's and the late 10's has a more laid back vibe and slows things down. I did notice music has slowed down and became less party and electro compared to the early 2010's, but I hope it goes even further so we get that relaxed vibe back from the 90's and 2000s.
I am not sure I completely agree. Disco revival seems to be the big thing now which accounts for the slower beats that you refer to.
Electropop also seems to be shifting back to its roots with more focus on lyrics, strong beats, and catchy hooks than what we had in 2013 and 2014. Ariana Grande's new song Focus and Chris Brown's new song 'Zero' both have that electropop sound that dominated the early '10s. Those songs would have fit right in in 2009 and 2010 alongside Lady Gaga and Ke$ha.
Trap rap doesn't appear to be going anywhere.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Slim95 on 12/02/15 at 6:39 pm
I am not sure I completely agree. Disco revival seems to be the big thing now which accounts for the slower beats that you refer to.
Electropop also seems to be shifting back to its roots with more focus on lyrics, strong beats, and catchy hooks than what we had in 2013 and 2014. Ariana Grande's new song Focus and Chris Brown's new song 'Zero' both have that electropop sound that dominated the early '10s. Those songs would have fit right in in 2009 and 2010 alongside Lady Gaga and Ke$ha.
Trap rap doesn't appear to be going anywhere.
Those sound nothing like electro pop from late 00's/early 10's. It's a very different sound. The only thing that sounds somewhat similar is Chris Brown's use of autotune which reminds me a little of the autotune sound from then, the beats are totally different though. Ariana Grande's song has an even more completely different sound altogether compared to the late 00's/early 10's sound. That song isn't even relevant anyway, it slipped all the way down the charts on only its second week.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: mqg96 on 12/02/15 at 6:45 pm
Those sound nothing like electro pop from late 00's/early 10's. It's a very different sound. The only thing that sounds somewhat similar is Chris Brown's use of autotune which reminds me a little of the autotune sound from then, the beats are totally different though. Ariana Grande's song has an even more completely different sound altogether compared to the late 00's/early 10's sound. That song isn't even relevant anyway, it slipped all the way down the charts on only its second week.
Yeah, personally, I don't see how Ariana Grande Focus sounds like the electropop era, that sounds like teen pop music to me. Now Chris Brown Zero gets an automatic pass for me, and I could get by that sounding like the electropop era.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: batfan2005 on 12/02/15 at 8:25 pm
I wasn't sure at first, but now that I think of it the Early 2010's were definitely better. The period from mid 2013 up until now has not been pretty bad, in my personal life, pop-culture (especially music, nothing good on the radio or Spotifly), and the political climate (too PC).
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: bchris02 on 12/03/15 at 12:59 am
Those sound nothing like electro pop from late 00's/early 10's. It's a very different sound. The only thing that sounds somewhat similar is Chris Brown's use of autotune which reminds me a little of the autotune sound from then, the beats are totally different though. Ariana Grande's song has an even more completely different sound altogether compared to the late 00's/early 10's sound. That song isn't even relevant anyway, it slipped all the way down the charts on only its second week.
It isn't exactly the same, but its more similar than much of what has come out over the past few years. I really do wish the early '10s sound would come back though. Music was headed in a very exciting direction in 2012 and then all of a sudden Call Me Maybe came out and it all shifted to teen pop.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Slim95 on 12/03/15 at 10:37 am
It isn't exactly the same, but its more similar than much of what has come out over the past few years. I really do wish the early '10s sound would come back though. Music was headed in a very exciting direction in 2012 and then all of a sudden Call Me Maybe came out and it all shifted to teen pop.
I hated that sound. I remember people on this forum couldn't wait for electro pop to go as well. That autotune dance music got very boring fast.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: mqg96 on 12/03/15 at 10:52 am
I hated that sound. I remember people on this forum couldn't wait for electro pop to go as well. That autotune dance music got very boring fast.
Everybody has their own preference of music though. There are people who don't like certain types of hip-hop, country, or teenybopper music either.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: bchris02 on 12/03/15 at 1:24 pm
I hated that sound. I remember people on this forum couldn't wait for electro pop to go as well. That autotune dance music got very boring fast.
In early 2012, electropop was starting incorporate more interesting beats and dubstep before the sudden shift to bubblegum that summer.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Howard on 12/03/15 at 3:49 pm
Trap rap doesn't appear to be going anywhere.
What's "trap rap"? ???
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: musicguy93 on 12/03/15 at 11:48 pm
I am not sure I completely agree. Disco revival seems to be the big thing now which accounts for the slower beats that you refer to.
Electropop also seems to be shifting back to its roots with more focus on lyrics, strong beats, and catchy hooks than what we had in 2013 and 2014. Ariana Grande's new song Focus and Chris Brown's new song 'Zero' both have that electropop sound that dominated the early '10s. Those songs would have fit right in in 2009 and 2010 alongside Lady Gaga and Ke$ha.
Trap rap doesn't appear to be going anywhere.
To be honest, it's far too early to make predictions for late 2010s. I seriously doubt the electropop sound that dominated 2009-2010 will return. It's too early for a revival of that genre. Sure there may be a couple of artists that have influences of that style this year, but that does not mean a revival is on the horizon. We have to wait, at least till late 2016 before we see the first hints of late 2010s culture.
As for trap rap, it only started getting popular around 2013, so it's obvious that it'll be a while before it dies down. Though I think 2016 will probably be the last year that it'll be really popular. 2017 will probably start the decline, and it's mainstream presence will likely be over by 2018. Then again I could be wrong, but I honestly don't see it remaining dominant in 2018 or 2019.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: musicguy93 on 12/03/15 at 11:50 pm
What's "trap rap"? ???
Rap music with trap beats. You can look up trap rap songs on youtube. But let me warn you, that it is a very nauseating and unpleasant genre.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Howard on 12/04/15 at 7:24 am
Rap music with trap beats. You can look up trap rap songs on youtube. But let me warn you, that it is a very nauseating and unpleasant genre.
I'll make sure to cover my ears.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: the2001 on 12/25/15 at 11:29 am
To be honest, it's far too early to make predictions for late 2010s. I seriously doubt the electropop sound that dominated 2009-2010 will return. It's too early for a revival of that genre. Sure there may be a couple of artists that have influences of that style this year, but that does not mean a revival is on the horizon. We have to wait, at least till late 2016 before we see the first hints of late 2010s culture.
As for trap rap, it only started getting popular around 2013, so it's obvious that it'll be a while before it dies down. Though I think 2016 will probably be the last year that it'll be really popular. 2017 will probably start the decline, and it's mainstream presence will likely be over by 2018. Then again I could be wrong, but I honestly don't see it remaining dominant in 2018 or 2019.
2016 will be the last year for trap
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Baltimoreian on 12/25/15 at 11:48 am
I liked the early 2010s better (except for 2012 and early-mid 2013), since it wasn't that crappy compared to the mid 2010s.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Slim95 on 12/25/15 at 1:42 pm
2010 was the only decent year of the early 2010's to me. Mid 2010s (starting mid 2013) are much better for my personal life.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: 2001 on 12/25/15 at 9:15 pm
I enjoyed early 2010s pop culture and gaming more. Dubstep was so much fun!
Mid-2010s is still great culturally though. I can still dance to Shake It Off and Uptown Funk, among other dance hits of this era. I don't really play video games anymore though.
Honestly, there is not a huge difference between the two eras in my eyes. They're just "the 2010s" to me for now.
Personal life wise, the early 2010s were very consistently awesome. Not many dark periods from then, if any at all. The mid-2010s have a lot more rough spots, some of the darkest periods of my life. But when you drive into a trough, you can rebound to new highs, and the mid-2010s also contains the best periods in my life. 2015 was probably my favourite year to be alive, so yeah. The 2010s have been good to me.
Subject: Re: Early 2010s vs Mid 2010s (vs the start of the late 2010s)
Written By: Rainbowz on 12/11/17 at 6:17 pm
In all honesty, when it comes to music, it depends on what music genre it is. I personally think the early 2010's were better for pop music, but IMO I think 2010 was a weak year for hip-hop/rap. The mid-2010's had better and catchier hip-hop/rap than the early 2010's IMO.
So far, the late 2010's are turning out to be promising, but I could be completely wrong.
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