I know this may have already been mentioned, but I haven't seen any posts primarily focused on the late 2010s. My question is, do you think things will remain the same in the late 2010s, or will we start to see change in pop culture. Personally, I think 2019 will be quite different from 2015. And from a personal perspective I hope things change in the late 2010s. I didn't care much for early 2010s culture, but mid 2010s culture is just annoying in my opinion. Personally I see 2013-2016 as the dark age of pop culture. I know plenty of people will disagree with me, but I respect your opinions if you do.  But me personally, I won't look back fondly at the current period in pop culture. So, what do you guys think the late 2010s will be like? I'm speaking in terms of music, fashion, movies, T.V. shows, etc. Pretty much anything in popular culture you can think of. Do you think it'll be better than the early-mid 2010s, or worse?

I think it's too soon to tell. The current culture will probably continue a couple more years. I do think the '10s could end up being a split decade like the 1970s, but it's really too early to say.

The main trend that I can imagine defining the late 2010s is the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, since the films are being released every other year through 2019 instead of every three years like in the past.  Even months before the first film's release, there's already been a ton of hype, as well as lots of Star Wars merchandise sprouting up in stores everywhere.  Maybe the DC Extended Universe will also turn out to be significant, but that depends on whether the films released are successful.  Otherwise, the late 2010s will mostly be a continuation of trends from earlier this decade, including the Marvel Cinematic Universe, live action fantasy/fairytale blockbusters, zombie flicks, and progressive pieces.

I think Nintendo will have also transformed into a completely different entity, as well, due to the company's imminent entrance into the mobile market, death of Satoru Iwata, fading significance and constant delays of major titles for the Wii U, and the upcoming Nintendo NX project.  We may also see virtual glasses mature to the point that they become fairly common, even though they will probably be far from perfection.

I'm really not sure where music is going to be headed at this point.  I thought that maybe with the success of Straight Outta Compton and Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly, plus the ongoing tension between the black community and law enforcement, we would see a renaissance of gangsta rap to fit the modern age, but instead, we're still stuck with trap artists like Drake and The Weeknd completely dominating the top 40.  Attention-mongerers like Justin Bieber and Nicki Minaj continue to score huge, as well.  Maybe the disco revival sound will expand a little further, given the gigantic success of Uptown Funk! (proving it's far more than just a 2013 fad), but with Pharrell Williams already falling from fame (his latest single, Freedom!, failing to make a chart impact), I'm skeptical of the future.

I also predict that the upcoming President of the United States will only serve one term; if it's Clinton, she'll be consumed by backlash against the Obama administration and her inconsistent track record; if Sanders wins, he won't make enough alliances in Congress to pass most of his agenda; if it's Trump, Rubio, or Bush, the administration will simply prove itself to be out of touch with current social trends.  Whichever candidate wins, then, will probably go down as pretty much the face of the late 2010s, in the same way that Bush '41 was the face of the late 80s/early 90s and Carter was the face of the late 70s.

The main trend that I can imagine defining the late 2010s is the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, since the films are being released every other year through 2019 instead of every three years like in the past.  Even months before the first film's release, there's already been a ton of hype, as well as lots of Star Wars merchandise sprouting up in stores everywhere.  Maybe the DC Extended Universe will also turn out to be significant, but that depends on whether the films released are successful.  Otherwise, the late 2010s will mostly be a continuation of trends from earlier this decade, including the Marvel Cinematic Universe, live action fantasy/fairytale blockbusters, zombie flicks, and progressive pieces.

I think Nintendo will have also transformed into a completely different entity, as well, due to the company's imminent entrance into the mobile market, death of Satoru Iwata, fading significance and constant delays of major titles for the Wii U, and the upcoming Nintendo NX project.  We may also see virtual glasses mature to the point that they become fairly common, even though they will probably be far from perfection.

I'm really not sure where music is going to be headed at this point.  I thought that maybe with the success of Straight Outta Compton and Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp a Butterfly, plus the ongoing tension between the black community and law enforcement, we would see a renaissance of gangsta rap to fit the modern age, but instead, we're still stuck with trap artists like Drake and The Weeknd completely dominating the top 40.  Attention-mongerers like Justin Bieber and Nicki Minaj continue to score huge, as well.  Maybe the disco revival sound will expand a little further, given the gigantic success of Uptown Funk! (proving it's far more than just a 2013 fad), but with Pharrell Williams already falling from fame (his latest single, Freedom!, failing to make a chart impact), I'm skeptical of the future.

I also predict that the upcoming President of the United States will only serve one term; if it's Clinton, she'll be consumed by backlash against the Obama administration and her inconsistent track record; if Sanders wins, he won't make enough alliances in Congress to pass most of his agenda; if it's Trump, Rubio, or Bush, the administration will simply prove itself to be out of touch with current social trends.  Whichever candidate wins, then, will probably go down as pretty much the face of the late 2010s, in the same way that Bush '41 was the face of the late 80s/early 90s and Carter was the face of the late 70s.


Late 2010's from my perspective

-Social media backlash will occur from all of the people posting instagram providing nothing with substance,
people will be sick of vine and all of these stupid apps like snapchat  (people going to a club just to flex on snapchat)


-Super hero movies will be dead, people are already getting sick of them.

- Google glass will not catch on.

-Facebook will be dead


-Youtube will be the same


-Music will go back to early 2000s sound, seeds of emo pop punk will start to come back

I know this may have already been mentioned, but I haven't seen any posts primarily focused on the late 2010s. My question is, do you think things will remain the same in the late 2010s, or will we start to see change in pop culture. Personally, I think 2019 will be quite different from 2015. And from a personal perspective I hope things change in the late 2010s. I didn't care much for early 2010s culture, but mid 2010s culture is just annoying in my opinion. Personally I see 2013-2016 as the dark age of pop culture. I know plenty of people will disagree with me, but I respect your opinions if you do.  But me personally, I won't look back fondly at the current period in pop culture. So, what do you guys think the late 2010s will be like? I'm speaking in terms of music, fashion, movies, T.V. shows, etc. Pretty much anything in popular culture you can think of. Do you think it'll be better than the early-mid 2010s, or worse?


mid 2010s isnt the dark age

Late 2010's from my perspective

-Social media backlash will occur from all of the people posting instagram providing nothing with substance,
people will be sick of vine and all of these stupid apps like snapchat  (people going to a club just to flex on snapchat)


-Super hero movies will be dead, people are already getting sick of them.

- Google glass will not catch on.

-Facebook will be dead


-Youtube will be the same


-Music will go back to early 2000s sound, seeds of emo pop punk will start to come back


Disagree, not anytime soon, look at the Marvel boom that's been going on throughout this decade, and I know there's going to be more Marvel movies to come that will be hits, and even live-action DC series like the Flash or Arrow are real popular as well.

Disagree, not anytime soon, look at the Marvel boom that's been going on throughout this decade, and I know there's going to be more Marvel movies to come that will be hits, and even live-action DC series like the Flash or Arrow are real popular as well.



How u going to know if its a hit if its not out yet?

Do u know if a song is a hit if it hasnt even been played 2 u

Disagree, not anytime soon, look at the Marvel boom that's been going on throughout this decade, and I know there's going to be more Marvel movies to come that will be hits, and even live-action DC series like the Flash or Arrow are real popular as well.


Yeah, I agree, the superhero flick boom is really only just getting started, especially with the ultra-successful superhero shows like Daredevil and Supergirl, plus the upcoming DC Extended Universe that will bring the Marvel vs. DC rivalry to a whole new level of popularity. Guardians of the Galaxy was the biggest film of last year, and Age of Ultron was one of the greatest successes this year.  No, this modern golden era of superhero flicks is far from over.

I also think it's completely premature to say YouTube and Facebook will both be dead within a few years, considering both are still ubiquitous presences that people rely on for everything. Twitter and Instagram so far haven't really eroded the popularity of these late 2000s phenomena to the degree you seem to expect.

I don't see an early 2000s revival in music, at least anything widespread. There may be a few songs that have an early '00s feel to them like we saw with the '90s earlier this decade, but widespread revivals of earlier music have never been successful, not even the good attempts like the swing revival in the 1990s.

I don't see an early 2000s revival in music, at least anything widespread. There may be a few songs that have an early '00s feel to them like we saw with the '90s earlier this decade, but widespread revivals of earlier music have never been successful, not even the good attempts like the swing revival in the 1990s.


First off, what hit songs this decade have a 90s feel to them and aren't just generic trap/teen EDM? Second, I don't know, the disco revival seems to have been pretty successful, considering the gargantuan success of Blurred Lines, Get Lucky, Uptown Funk! and the like. I doubt the early 2000s influence will be any less prevalent towards the end of this decade than the 90s influence was to this decade.

I don't see an early 2000s revival in music, at least anything widespread. There may be a few songs that have an early '00s feel to them like we saw with the '90s earlier this decade, but widespread revivals of earlier music have never been successful, not even the good attempts like the swing revival in the 1990s.


What about the Punk revival? That was one of the hugest things from 1994-2003. 

Facebook will be dead


-Youtube will be the same

I don't think Facebook and YouTube will be going anywhere anytime soon.

I don't see an early 2000s revival in music, at least anything widespread. There may be a few songs that have an early '00s feel to them like we saw with the '90s earlier this decade, but widespread revivals of earlier music have never been successful, not even the good attempts like the swing revival in the 1990s.


LOL you cant compare the early 2000s teen pop  to  SWING movement that was failed.

Early 2000s will come back trust me.

Yeah, I agree, the superhero flick boom is really only just getting started, especially with the ultra-successful superhero shows like Daredevil and Supergirl, plus the upcoming DC Extended Universe that will bring the Marvel vs. DC rivalry to a whole new level of popularity. Guardians of the Galaxy was the biggest film of last year, and Age of Ultron was one of the greatest successes this year.  No, this modern golden era of superhero flicks is far from over.

I also think it's completely premature to say YouTube and Facebook will both be dead within a few years, considering both are still ubiquitous presences that people rely on for everything. Twitter and Instagram so far haven't really eroded the popularity of these late 2000s phenomena to the degree you seem to expect.


Do you think we have been over saturated tho?

I don't think Facebook and YouTube will be going anywhere anytime soon.


I said youtube will be the same lol
But yeah Youtube will always be around no matter what.

What about the Punk revival? That was one of the hugest things from 1994-2003.


pop punk will come back  its 2001-2007's version of any kind of grunge movement we had
even if it evolved into scene in 2008-2009

LOL you cant compare the early 2000s teen pop  to  SWING movement that was failed.

Early 2000s will come back trust me.


There was a few songs in the early 2000s that sounded late '80s, but it was hardly the dominant sound.

I personally liked early 2000s music and its sound, but I don't see it coming back any time soon, especially since music today isn't really that far from it in the grand scheme of things.  I think rock will make a comeback.  In terms of early 2000s pop, you can find plenty of songs by One Direction or 5 Seconds of Summer that sound like they could have come out in 2000 or 2001.  Listen to One Direction's cover of "Teenage Dirtbag." I don't think hip-hop and r&b will ever return to its early '00s sound.

pop punk will come back  its 2001-2007's version of any kind of grunge movement we had
even if it evolved into scene in 2008-2009


Pop Punk from 2000-2002/2003 is totally different from the 2003/2004-now era, though. Around that time, Pop Punk and Emo both became this weird glam metal throwback with their tight jeans and eyeliner. You have a point (even though Grunge's biggest years were probably 1991-1994/1995. The 90's weren't 100% grunge as most people seem to think) but the version of pop punk that existed from around 1994-2003 died right in 2004. I remember it happening as I was still going to shows in 2004/2005.


There was a few songs in the early 2000s that sounded late '80s, but it was hardly the dominant sound.

I personally liked early 2000s music and its sound, but I don't see it coming back any time soon, especially since music today isn't really that far from it in the grand scheme of things.  I think rock will make a comeback.  In terms of early 2000s pop, you can find plenty of songs by One Direction or 5 Seconds of Summer that sound like they could have come out in 2000 or 2001. Listen to One Direction's cover of "Teenage Dirtbag." I don't think hip-hop and r&b will ever return to its early '00s sound.


I listened to some of their songs just now and I don't think they don't sound early 00's at all.

There was a few songs in the early 2000s that sounded late '80s, but it was hardly the dominant sound.

I personally liked early 2000s music and its sound, but I don't see it coming back any time soon, especially since music today isn't really that far from it in the grand scheme of things.  I think rock will make a comeback.  In terms of early 2000s pop, you can find plenty of songs by One Direction or 5 Seconds of Summer that sound like they could have come out in 2000 or 2001.  Listen to One Direction's cover of "Teenage Dirtbag." I don't think hip-hop and r&b will ever return to its early '00s sound.


late 80s wasnt the dominant sound of the 2000s  I agree with you that early 2000s music was GOAT.
It was lol  2000s music fell off after 2007,  Thankfulllllllllly in late 2008 music got good again.

Pop Punk from 2000-2002/2003 is totally different from the 2003/2004-now era, though. Around that time, Pop Punk and Emo both became this weird glam metal throwback with their tight jeans and eyeliner. You have a point (even though Grunge's biggest years were probably 1991-1994/1995. The 90's weren't 100% grunge as most people seem to think) but the version of pop punk that existed from around 1994-2003 died right in 2004. I remember it happening as I was still going to shows in 2004/2005.

I listened to some of their songs just now and I don't think they don't sound early 00's at all.


I would divide the whole  pop punk era in to a few parts  (the 2000s part)


Late 2000- 2003 )  Bands like SUM 41, New Found Glory, Dashboard,  Blink 182

Late 2004-2007)    Fall Out Boy, Panic at the disco etc

and after that it morphed

Pop Punk from 2000-2002/2003 is totally different from the 2003/2004-now era, though. Around that time, Pop Punk and Emo both became this weird glam metal throwback with their tight jeans and eyeliner. You have a point (even though Grunge's biggest years were probably 1991-1994/1995. The 90's weren't 100% grunge as most people seem to think) but the version of pop punk that existed from around 1994-2003 died right in 2004. I remember it happening as I was still going to shows in 2004/2005.


I agree with this.  From my recollection, pop punk became emo somewhere around 2005ish which then became scene in the late 2000s.  Punk pop was at its peak in U.S. Top 40 in the late 1990s through around 2003.  When I think of pop punk I think mostly pre-emo, though some people include emo era bands under the umbrella of pop punk.

late 80s wasnt the dominant sound of the 2000s  I agree with you that early 2000s music was GOAT.
It was lol  2000s music fell off after 2007,  Thankfulllllllllly in late 2008 music got good again.


Yeah I said that late '80s was NOT the dominant sound in the early '00s.  There were a few songs though that had that sound, specifically in 2002.  I mentioned it to show that there can be songs that sound like they are from an earlier era, but it rarely becomes the dominant sound.

I agree that in late 2008, music changed for the better.  I think 2009 was by far the best year for music of the century so far.  Many hits of that year have become classics.

I agree with this.  From my recollection, pop punk became emo somewhere around 2005ish which then became scene in the late 2000s.  Punk pop was at its peak in U.S. Top 40 in the late 1990s through around 2003.  When I think of pop punk I think mostly pre-emo, though some people include emo era bands under the umbrella of pop punk.


Exactly. That is one of the reasons I stopped going to the Warped Tour in 2005. Compare Fall Out Boy's Evening Out (recorded in 2002, released in 2003) album to Cork Tree or MCR's Bullet's (from 2002) album to Three Cheers. Evening Out sounds like a New Found Glory album and MCR's first album sounds just like all those late 90's Post-Hardcore bands like Keepsake, Glasseater and Thursday with a little bit of Poison the Well mixed in there. Spot on with it's peak, too. The biggest era of Pop Punk was from 1998-2003 but it was already a huge, huge thing from 1994-1997. I think of emo being included in Pop Punk I usually think of bands like Jimmy Eat World, The Movielife (who I think are equally Pop Punk and Emo), The Get Up Kids, Taking Back Sunday (pre-2004 of course) or The Promise Ring. I'd say some Pop Punk bands like The Ataris or New Found Glory did have some pretty emo-influenced songs. It wasn't uncommon to listen to both emo and pop punk bands back in 1998-2003. Then, 2004 came around and bands like From First to Last released "Dear Diary" on Epitaph and MCR released Three Cheers. The style went from this in 2002 to being super dark and serious in 2004.

Do you think we have been over saturated tho?


Absolutely.  I think most of these superhero movies are extremely overrated, as they predominantly reiterate the tired young white male hero/female love interest/evil male supergenius/supernatural villain archetypes of decades past, and to me at least, they feel frustratingly outdated and unoriginal in 2015 of all times.  That said, at least projects such as the critically acclaimed Supergirl TV show are just starting to expand upon the genre's diversity of leads.

Exactly. That is one of the reasons I stopped going to the Warped Tour in 2005. Compare Fall Out Boy's Evening Out (recorded in 2002, released in 2003) album to Cork Tree or MCR's Bullet's (from 2002) album to Three Cheers. Evening Out sounds like a New Found Glory album and MCR's first album sounds just like all those late 90's Post-Hardcore bands like Keepsake, Glasseater and Thursday with a little bit of Poison the Well mixed in there. Spot on with it's peak, too. The biggest era of Pop Punk was from 1998-2003 but it was already a huge, huge thing from 1994-1997. I think of emo being included in Pop Punk I usually think of bands like Jimmy Eat World, The Movielife (who I think are equally Pop Punk and Emo), The Get Up Kids, Taking Back Sunday (pre-2004 of course) or The Promise Ring. I'd say some Pop Punk bands like The Ataris or New Found Glory did have some pretty emo-influenced songs. It wasn't uncommon to listen to both emo and pop punk bands back in 1998-2003. Then, 2004 came around and bands like From First to Last released "Dear Diary" on Epitaph and MCR released Three Cheers. The style went from this in 2002 to being super dark and serious in 2004.


Mtv's shows all had this kind of music in its credits lol like Lauguna beach and Viva la bam, as well as Malcolm in the middle.

Absolutely.  I think most of these superhero movies are extremely overrated, as they predominantly reiterate the tired young white male hero/female love interest/evil male supergenius/supernatural villain archetypes of decades past, and to me at least, they feel frustratingly outdated and unoriginal in 2015 of all times.  That said, at least projects such as the critically acclaimed Supergirl TV show are just starting to expand upon the genre's diversity of leads.


The premiere of this series is on right now, but I'm not watching it at the moment because Monday Night Football is on but I will check it out soon. Although I get where you're coming from. I respect your opinion. I'm a big fan of DC or Marvel regardless of how good or mediocre the series are, but not too bad, like the recent Fantastic Four movie or Gotham. The rest of the superhero shows and movies are epic for me. I'm enjoying it! Throughout my core childhood in the 2000's, it was the DC/Marvel cartoons on Cartoon Network and Toon Disney/Jetix that I enjoyed. Now in the 2010's in my young adulthood, it's these live-action DC/Marvel movies and series that's keeping me occupied during this time of the decade!

I would divide the whole  pop punk era in to a few parts  (the 2000s part)


Late 2000- 2003 )  Bands like SUM 41, New Found Glory, Dashboard,  Blink 182

Late 2004-2007)    Fall Out Boy, Panic at the disco etc

and after that it morphed



I wouldn't say late 2000 because in 1998 you already had Homegrown release Act Your Age so by early 2000 that specific style Pop Punk was already everywhere. Sum 41 were also starting to get big in 1998/1999, too. I agree otherwise, though. Pretty accurate. I kinda think that Pop Punk is still kind of in a 2005 time warp. There aren't really any bands today who go back to the late 90's/early 00's style (like I wish they would) instead they all imitate Under the Cork Tree or whatever. 


Mtv's shows all had this kind of music in its credits lol like Lauguna beach and Viva la bam, as well as Malcolm in the middle.


Haha! I loved Malcolm in the Middle. I remember hearing Sum 41 on their soundtracks quite a bit. I miss when Sum 41 and blink-182 were the biggest bands in 2000-2002. Hearing them on TV, in movies or on the radio was the best.

The premiere of this series is on right now, but I'm not watching it at the moment because Monday Night Football is on but I will check it out soon. Although I get where you're coming from. I respect your opinion. I'm a big fan of DC or Marvel regardless of how good or mediocre the series are, but not too bad, like the recent Fantastic Four movie or Gotham. The rest of the superhero shows and movies are epic for me. I'm enjoying it! Throughout my core childhood in the 2000's, it was the DC/Marvel cartoons on Cartoon Network and Toon Disney/Jetix that I enjoyed. Now in the 2010's in my young adulthood, it's these live-action DC/Marvel movies and series that's keeping me occupied during this time of the decade!


It's probably a different story for you if you're male and straight, in which case the lead characters are easier to identify with.  I believe race factors in as well, as aside from 2008's Hancock, the only superhero films that come to my mind with single, non-white leads (Steel and Catwoman) are regarded as among the worst of the genre.

This all in mind, I'm personally probably in one of the worst positions to appreciate mainstream superhero flicks, as even though I'm white and from a privileged family, I'm also a lipstick lesbian who sees true heroism in strong, intellectual, and confidently feminine women instead of young, handsome males born into social expectations of leadership.  Thus, I neither relate to the superhero leads of today, nor do I fawn over them.  I just guess with this decade's focus on minority voices in the press, I wish superhero movies would be more diverse than they are now.

EDIT:  Oh no, looks like audiences do not like Supergirl despite critical approval. :(

I think the superhero movie market is starting to get saturated, but I think it still has legs and will continue until at least the end of the decade.  The Avengers has a very dedicated fanbase and I think future installments of Captain America and Guardians of the Galaxy have a lot of potential.

Yeah, well don't you just kill yourself, you lesbian bitch.  Nobody wants to hear your stupid views over superhero movies.  Take your feminine views and shove them up your ass.  Then go make out with your future wife Mariah Carey.  It's more than that anything that pop whore ever did for music.

You know I use to be a liberal.  Then I found out what a bunch overly feminine vegetarian-loving suck assess the left wing party is.

DAMN Bro!!! :o

Yeah, well don't you just kill yourself, you lesbian bitch.  Nobody wants to hear your stupid views over superhero movies.  Take your feminine views and shove them up your ass.  Then go make out with your future wife Mariah Carey.  It's more than that anything that pop whore ever did for music.

You know I use to be a liberal.  Then I found out what a bunch overly feminine vegetarian-loving suck assess the left wing party is.


Damn chill out! It's her own opinion! I knew there was something not right about you as long as I've known you on the internet, not just this website, but a couple other ones as well.

Damn chill out! It's her own opinion! I knew there was something not right about you as long as I've known you on the internet, not just this website, but a couple other ones as well.

IKR!!! ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, well don't you just kill yourself, you lesbian bitch.  Nobody wants to hear your stupid views over superhero movies.  Take your feminine views and shove them up your ass.  Then go make out with your future wife Mariah Carey.  It's more than that anything that pop whore ever did for music.

You know I use to be a liberal.  Then I found out what a bunch overly feminine vegetarian-loving suck assess the left wing party is.


You're sure quick to make crude generalizations.  If you knew me personally, you'd realize that I'm actually far from considering myself a full-on liberal and am actually quite moderate on several issues.  Like you, I used to be full-on leftist but I've since come to believe that the Democratic Party of today is preachier and more impatient on most issues than necessary.  I'm not even a vegetarian like you apparently infer.  However, as a woman who's standards of attraction are a bit out of the norm, I think I at least have more than a reason to wish that the media represented people like me a little better.

Also, you want to talk music?  Well, yes, I do appreciate Mariah Carey a ton, not only because she has a great voice and co-writes all of her material, but also because I relate to a lot of her backstory.  It's my opinion, anyway.  Oh, and for the record, I do appreciate "real" music just as much as MC, if not even more so; some of my favorite musical acts include Bruce Springsteen, Steely Dan, Led Zeppelin, prog-era Genesis, Kate Bush, Talking Heads, Alice in Chains, and Soundgarden.

Honestly, I shouldn't take any of your insults to heart, because they're far more reflective of your own insecurities than anything else, but I figured I'd just drop my two cents just to put things into perspective.

The only superhero movies I like are Batman's and Spider man's.

Super-Man never did it for me, in terms of entertainment.

Okay, I'm a bit biased because I like Mariah, but the woman can sing and writes her music. How more 'real' can an artist get?

The only superhero movies I like are Batman's and Spider man's.

Super-Man never did it for me, in terms of entertainment.


I'm probably a minority on this one, but I actually preferred the 2000s superhero movies. Sure, it was hit and miss, but when it was good, it was really good. The movies now are mostly meh, with the occasional stinker (ie., the new Fantastic Four movie).

I'm probably a minority on this one, but I actually preferred the 2000s superhero movies. Sure, it was hit and miss, but when it was good, it was really good. The movies now are mostly meh, with the occasional stinker (ie., the new Fantastic Four movie).


I think there's too much hype with a lot of the super hero movies today. Unfortunately, sooner or later this overhype was going to happen. Why? Things just reach a saturation point sooner or later. I really like Tobey McGuire as Spider-Man, especially the first two films. Wow, they were great. I think that the 90s and 00s are my favorite decades for Superhero films.

I think there's too much hype with a lot of the super hero movies today. Unfortunately, sooner or later this overhype was going to happen. Why? Things just reach a saturation point sooner or later. I really like Tobey McGuire as Spider-Man, especially the first two films. Wow, they were great. I think that the 90s and 00s are my favorite decades for Superhero films.


every superhero film is a remake and is not as good.

I think there's too much hype with a lot of the super hero movies today. Unfortunately, sooner or later this overhype was going to happen. Why? Things just reach a saturation point sooner or later. I really like Tobey McGuire as Spider-Man, especially the first two films. Wow, they were great. I think that the 90s and 00s are my favorite decades for Superhero films.


I think it depends on your favorite superhero movie franchise, or which part of the DC or Marvel universe you prefer. I really like the Avengers the most out of all, and it's sub movies like Iron Man 1-3, Thor, Captain America, Hulk, etc. I also enjoyed Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy as well. I not 100% sure about the 90's, but when it comes to the 2000's, I liked all the X-Men movies, Fantastic 4 movies, and the Spiderman movies much better from that time than the ones from this decade, like I'd take the 2005 Fantastic 4 and Silver Surfer any day over that abomination Fantastic 4 that just came out recently. I prefer the original 2002 & 2004 Spiderman's 1-2 over the Amazing Spiderman movies from this decade. However, if there was any Avengers movie from the 2000's decade or earlier, then it can't beat the 2012 Avengers and Age of Ultron without a question. I think when it comes to Marvel the movies, we are definitely in a golden age right now.

I think it depends on your favorite superhero movie franchise, or which part of the DC or Marvel universe you prefer. I really like the Avengers the most out of all, and it's sub movies like Iron Man 1-3, Thor, Captain America, Hulk, etc. I also enjoyed Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy as well. I not 100% sure about the 90's, but when it comes to the 2000's, I liked all the X-Men movies, Fantastic 4 movies, and the Spiderman movies much better from that time than the ones from this decade, like I'd take the 2005 Fantastic 4 and Silver Surfer any day over that abomination Fantastic 4 that just came out recently. I prefer the original 2002 & 2004 Spiderman's 1-2 over the Amazing Spiderman movies from this decade. However, if there was any Avengers movie from the 2000's decade or earlier, then it can't beat the 2012 Avengers and Age of Ultron without a question. I think when it comes to Marvel the movies, we are definitely in a golden age right now.

X-MEN Days of Future Past is probably the best X-Men movie now! That was FANTASTIC! :D  Fantastic Four NEVER had a good movie! ;D ;D ;D

X-MEN Days of Future Past is probably the best X-Men movie now! That was FANTASTIC! :D  Fantastic Four NEVER had a good movie! ;D ;D ;D


Which came out last year, I haven't even seen it yet, but then again, that speaks volumes about the golden age Marvel is in right now with the movie industry.

Okay, I'm a bit biased because I like Mariah, but the woman can sing and writes her music. How more 'real' can an artist get?


It's mainly because she's a solo pop artist, and music purists generally deride 98% of pop as corporate schlock, succeeding off of image instead of musical ambition and integrity.  It probably doesn't help, either, that Carey broke Elvis' record for most #1 singles by a solo artist.


I think that the 90s and 00s are my favorite decades for Superhero films.

How were the 90s a good decade for superhero movies?  There were no Superman movies, the first Batman had already come out in 1989, all the long-running major franchises weren't around until the 2000s, and there were a whole ton of awful releases that decade, such as Batman & Robin, Steel, The Phantom, Tank Girl, and the 1990 version of Captain America.  That decade was undeniably a dark age for the genre.

This thread is like asking people how long will mid 2010s culture will last. It wouldn't be that predictable, since the mid-late years of the decade would probably have the same culture.

How were the 90s a good decade for superhero movies?  There were no Superman movies, the first Batman had already come out in 1989, all the long-running major franchises weren't around until the 2000s, and there were a whole ton of awful releases that decade, such as Batman & Robin, Steel, The Phantom, Tank Girl, and the 1990 version of Captain America.  That decade was undeniably a dark age for the genre.

Yes, the 90s were THE dark age of the comic book industry and the movie genre. However, the TV shows like X-MEN, Spiderman, Batman&Superman TAS were what probably kept it alive!

It's mainly because she's a solo pop artist, and music purists generally deride 98% of pop as corporate schlock, succeeding off of image instead of musical ambition and integrity.  It probably doesn't help, either, that Carey broke Elvis' record for most #1 singles by a solo artist.

How were the 90s a good decade for superhero movies?  There were no Superman movies, the first Batman had already come out in 1989, all the long-running major franchises weren't around until the 2000s, and there were a whole ton of awful releases that decade, such as Batman & Robin, Steel, The Phantom, Tank Girl, and the 1990 version of Captain America.  That decade was undeniably a dark age for the genre.


I just like the Batman films of the 90s, even the bad one in 1997, Batman and Robin. My taste is um....interesting.

Yes, the 90s were THE dark age of the comic book industry and the movie genre. However, the TV shows like X-MEN, Spiderman, Batman&Superman TAS were what probably kept it alive!


Coming to think of it, the 1980s were not a particularly great decade for superhero flicks, either.  Though they began with Superman II and ended with Batman, there wasn't much else unless you count Robocop from 1987, which fits better with the usual macho action flick genre that dominated the decade's blockbuster catalogue.  There weren't as many outright bombs in the 80s as there were in the 90s, but you still had Howard the Duck and Superman IV: The Quest for Peace.

There was a few songs in the early 2000s that sounded late '80s, but it was hardly the dominant sound.

I personally liked early 2000s music and its sound, but I don't see it coming back any time soon, especially since music today isn't really that far from it in the grand scheme of things.  I think rock will make a comeback.  In terms of early 2000s pop, you can find plenty of songs by One Direction or 5 Seconds of Summer that sound like they could have come out in 2000 or 2001.  Listen to One Direction's cover of "Teenage Dirtbag." I don't think hip-hop and r&b will ever return to its early '00s sound.


Nah. As happy as that would make me, it wouldn't make sense. The sound of Early 2000s, Hip Hop and R&B would be out of place now and odd. Majority of the current generation wouldn't understand it. Era change is real.

Nah. As happy as that would make me, it wouldn't make sense. The sound of Early 2000s, Hip Hop and R&B would be out of place now and odd. Majority of the current generation wouldn't understand it. Era change is real.


Completely agree with this.  As I have said, attempting to revive the sound of an earlier era is almost never successful.  There are certain exceptions such as the current disco revival, but today's disco revival songs have a distinct sound compared to the original disco in the 1970s so it doesn't quite count as a genuine 70s resurgence.

Completely agree with this.  As I have said, attempting to revive the sound of an earlier era is almost never successful.  There are certain exceptions such as the current disco revival, but today's disco revival songs have a distinct sound compared to the original disco in the 1970s so it doesn't quite count as a genuine 70s resurgence.


Frankly, they sound far more like early 80s post-disco than actual disco from the 70s, which usually had acoustic string accompaniments instead of synthesizers and smooth baselines.  I guess 'disco revival' just sounds more marketable than 'post-disco revival.'

Nah. As happy as that would make me, it wouldn't make sense. The sound of Early 2000s, Hip Hop and R&B would be out of place now and odd. Majority of the current generation wouldn't understand it. Era change is real.


I honestly don't care whether or not the early 2000s come back. All I hope for are two things. Firstly, I hope some type of rock music becomes popular in the future. Two, I want pop music to be listenable again. I don't care what direction mainstream music goes in the future, I just want it to be good.

I honestly don't care whether or not the early 2000s come back. All I hope for are two things. Firstly, I hope some type of rock music becomes popular in the future. Two, I want pop music to be listenable again. I don't care what direction mainstream music goes in the future, I just want it to be good.


Early 2000s is starting to come back a little bit but its small, there is this genre called pc music
that has come out that just recently partnered with Sony records, one of the fashion designers Steves Peeps
seems to be influencing artists such as Hannah Diamond and Liz.

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https://adrianamichellebeauty.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/tshirtpics.jpg?w=600

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http://noragouma.com/2000s-nostalgia-already-here-steves-peeps-leads-the-way/

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/5915497/liz-y2k-exclusive-song-premiere

Despite the '90s nostalgia that has been popular this decade, there has been no '90s music revival other than a few songs.  Nostalgia culture goes in twenty year cycles.  2000s nostalgia will become more prevalent in the late '10s into the '20s.  However, I don't expect a massive revival of early '00s culture.

Despite the '90s nostalgia that has been popular this decade, there has been no '90s music revival other than a few songs.  Nostalgia culture goes in twenty year cycles.  2000s nostalgia will become more prevalent in the late '10s into the '20s.  However, I don't expect a massive revival of early '00s culture.


I already posted evidence of 2000s nostalgia that is happening now lol

Despite the '90s nostalgia that has been popular this decade, there has been no '90s music revival other than a few songs.  Nostalgia culture goes in twenty year cycles.  2000s nostalgia will become more prevalent in the late '10s into the '20s.  However, I don't expect a massive revival of early '00s culture.


Massive you mean, oh I gotcha. Nostalgia for 2000-2003 is actually happening right now, if not soon enough!

Really, the nostalgia cycle has sort of just broadened as of late, currently going back as early as the Bush '41 era and ending as late as the early 2000s.  There's no longer much of a prominent focus anymore like there was in the Happy Days and Grease 70s, An Innocent Man and Dirty Dancing 80s, Dazed and Confused 90s, or teen pop rock and Killers 2000s.  If anything, the main 90s things that actually influence mainstream popular culture today are eraser cuts, Fuller House, the upcoming Twin Peaks revival, flannel shirts, early Disney Renaissance movies, and the Michael Bay TMNT film, all of which can trace their roots to the Bush '41 era rather than the core 90s.  Almost all mid-90s to early 2000s nostalgia, however, is confined to Buzzfeed articles and the like.

That LIZ song, Y2K, sounds straight out of that year in style.

Do you think it will get any radio airplay?

Despite the '90s nostalgia that has been popular this decade, there has been no '90s music revival other than a few songs.  Nostalgia culture goes in twenty year cycles.  2000s nostalgia will become more prevalent in the late '10s into the '20s.  However, I don't expect a massive revival of early '00s culture.


I just want things to be authentic in the future. The hipster influence of this decade has made everything bland and robotic. And all this 90s revival stuff, is just hipster fashion with a superficial 90s design. I honestly don't see how it's similar to the real 90s. Hell even the 00s were more authentic than the 2010s. And I'm going to take it a step further and say that Back to the Future II's interpretation of 2015's fashion is more authentic than the actual 2015! It's so crazy. I know the technology was a bit of an unrealistic prediction, but the fashion was still better than the robotic, pretentious stuff we have nowadays. Music wise, I think there needs to be a lot to improve the current state of music, though I think 2015 was an improvement over 2014. I do think the late 2010s and early 2020s will be better.

Massive you mean, oh I gotcha. Nostalgia for 2000-2003 is actually happening right now, if not soon enough!


You mean late 2001-2003. 2000-mid 2001 was more similar to late 90s culture. One thing that bugs me about the 90s revival is that people see the 90s as a homogeneous decade, which it really wasn't

You mean late 2001-2003. 2000-mid 2001 was more similar to late 90s culture. One thing that bugs me about the 90s revival is that people see the 90s as a homogeneous decade, which it really wasn't


I agree.  The 2000s were far more homogeneous than the '90s were.  The Bush 41 era, the mid '90s, and the late '90s had completely different cultures.  Not since the '60s was there that much cultural change within one decade.

I agree.  The 2000s were far more homogeneous than the '90s were.  The Bush 41 era, the mid '90s, and the late '90s had completely different cultures.  Not since the '60s was there that much cultural change within one decade.


Actually the early 2000s were pretty different from the rest of the decade. 2000 was still similar to 1999.

You mean late 2001-2003. 2000-mid 2001 was more similar to late 90s culture. One thing that bugs me about the 90s revival is that people see the 90s as a homogeneous decade, which it really wasn't


No I was talking about the entire numerical early 2000's years, but if you're referring to the cultural early 2000's then yes that would be late 2001-2003.

No I was talking about the entire numerical early 2000's years, but if you're referring to the cultural early 2000's then yes that would be late 2001-2003.


Yeah I was referring to the cultural period. Though I'm not sure how they'd revive the numerical period, to be honest.

You mean late 2001-2003. 2000-mid 2001 was more similar to late 90s culture. One thing that bugs me about the 90s revival is that people see the 90s as a homogeneous decade, which it really wasn't


here is some more stuff that is happening now that is  "early 2000s influenced"
its like a sneek peak of what to expect for the 2020s

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http://noragouma.com/interview-with-steves-peeps/

here is some more stuff that is happening now that is  "early 2000s influenced"
its like a sneek peak of what to expect for the 2020s

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11220836_10153808830681258_2232036548855519970_n.jpg?oh=09067a02a61b6673824c792b468a596f&oe=56B3AFDE

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http://noragouma.com/interview-with-steves-peeps/


This isn't really 2000s influenced. The shapes and designs are completely 2010s. It just includes 2000s references. That's not the same as being influenced by the fashion. You are taking this far too literally. This is probably just a joke. I doubt that this will take over in the 2020s, because the shapes and designs are too similar to the 2010s. If the 2020s have clothing with references to the 2000s, it will not look anything like those pictures.

This isn't really 2000s influenced. The shapes and designs are completely 2010s. It just includes 2000s references. That's not the same as being influenced by the fashion. You are taking this far too literally. This is probably just a joke. I doubt that this will take over in the 2020s, because the shapes and designs are too similar to the 2010s. If the 2020s have clothing with references to the 2000s, it will not look anything like those pictures.


That's stuff I could see people wearing now. Never mind the '20s.  :P

That's stuff I could see people wearing now. Never mind the '20s.  :P


Exactly, it's design is very 2010s. Not to mention it fits with the quirky/obnoxious nature of the mid 2010s.

This isn't really 2000s influenced. The shapes and designs are completely 2010s. It just includes 2000s references. That's not the same as being influenced by the fashion. You are taking this far too literally. This is probably just a joke. I doubt that this will take over in the 2020s, because the shapes and designs are too similar to the 2010s. If the 2020s have clothing with references to the 2000s, it will not look anything like those pictures.


Isn't that what happened in the early 2010s with 90s things tho? You had the shapes of clothes looking 2009 ish with
90s references such as  " All that, Bart simpson, Beavis and Butthead it was more of a tumblr thing, then around 2013
it morphed into using actual cuts of the 90s clothes ( Versace influenced, flannel around waist etc)c  I noticed mostly fashion was 90s
influenced before it became 90s cuts if that makes sense.

In 2009 in Miley Cyrus's Party in the Usa you had her wearing grunge flannel and it was NEON yellow
in  the promo pics. It is kind of like a bridge in the gap between styles.

I can't see pop culture changing much over the next few years, but I hope it does.

I don't really like the 2012-present pop culture because of how social media-oriented it is. The main trends over the last couple of years just seem repetitive and lacking in variety. It usually starts when a video of someone doing some ridiculous stunt becomes really popular. Then people post pictures or videos of themselves doing the same stunt and dare all their friends to do it. After the Miley Cyrus performance at the MTV awards last year, the trend was 'Take a video of yourself twerking and upload it to Facebook or Youtube or Instagram'. We have also had things like 'I dare you to do the Ice Bucket challenge and post a video of it on Facebook' or 'I dare you to do the cinnamon challenge and post a video on Youtube' or 'I dare you to tag each of your friends on Facebook for every letter of the alphabet' or 'Take a picture of yourself with a load of silly bandz and post it on Instagram'.

Every couple of months there seems to be a new social media trend, but none of it feels really original or interesting to me. I find most social media-oriented pop culture very boring, so I'm interested in knowing how long it will last. Facebook in particular has become so entrenched in people's lives, so I don't see it dying off in the next couple of years, but I don't think its popularity will last forever. There have been articles saying that a lot of teenagers are moving away from Facebook to other sites that their parents aren't using. I don't know what that could mean for the long-term future of the site. But if I had to bet, I'd say that any major decline won't happen until the 2020s. But given the rate that technology is advancing these days, who knows where we will be by then.

I know this site is like a SM site, but it doesn't really have the same vibe as places like Facebook and Twitter. I think it's because it attracts a much smaller group of people who are focused on specific topics, so it is more like a discussion forum. 

I know this site is like a SM site, but it doesn't really have the same vibe as places like Facebook and Twitter. I think it's because it attracts a much smaller group of people who are focused on specific topics, so it is more like a discussion forum.


nd ppl dont talk like this

Yeah "inthe00s.com" is a discussion forum, reminiscent of the kind that were popular in the '00s catered to specific interests.

I know this site is like a SM site, but it doesn't really have the same vibe as places like Facebook and Twitter. I think it's because it attracts a much smaller group of people who are focused on specific topics, so it is more like a discussion forum.


More like? I think this site is a discussion forum.

I think early 2000s influences just might be starting to affect culture on a broad level.  Tell me this new song of Ariana Grande's doesn't sound like it took certain cues from producers like Swizz Beats and The Neptunes with its strong emphasis on shuffling drums and claps as opposed to an onslaught of overly polished synthesizers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf_wVfwpfp8

I think early 2000s influences just might be starting to affect culture on a broad level.  Tell me this new song of Ariana Grande's doesn't sound like it took certain cues from producers like Swizz Beats and The Neptunes with its strong emphasis on shuffling drums and claps as opposed to an onslaught of overly polished synthesizers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf_wVfwpfp8


Yeah it does sound a bit early 00's now that you mention it, like a fusion of the modern elctropopish sound with the early 00's drum beats

I used to like Ariana Grande in Victorious. I even started to keep up to date with the series because of her. Now she is annoyingly cute and don't seem like a real person as if she is a hologram originally plan to release in the 2030s. She was a better person before she became famous. I definitely feel like she was born into the wrong era. My opinion of pop culture today is odd, too teenish, lifeless and electro. I really don't like it.

Yeah it does sound a bit early 00's now that you mention it, like a fusion of the modern elctropopish sound with the early 00's drum beats


I think it sounds more early '10s than early '00s.  It's a little more electropop sounding than stuff she has done in the past.  I can kind of see the early '00s reference when it comes to the drum beats, though I didn't make that connection until it was pointed out here.  Somewhat reminds me of this somewhat letter known Britney Spears song from 2002.

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I think it sounds more early '10s than early '00s.  It's a little more electropop sounding than stuff she has done in the past.  I can kind of see the early '00s reference when it comes to the drum beats, though I didn't make that connection until it was pointed out here.  Somewhat reminds me of this somewhat letter known Britney Spears song from 2002.

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Yeah those drum beats have that Neptunes kind of feel to it, brings back great memories.

Exactly, it's design is very 2010s. Not to mention it fits with the quirky/obnoxious nature of the mid 2010s.


Yeah its like a mix  a tumblr ish kinda fashion

I think it sounds more early '10s than early '00s.  It's a little more electropop sounding than stuff she has done in the past.  I can kind of see the early '00s reference when it comes to the drum beats, though I didn't make that connection until it was pointed out here.  Somewhat reminds me of this somewhat letter known Britney Spears song from 2002.

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I'm used to Ariana Grande's songs being 100% synth, so the fact that this song has so much emphasis on rhythm feels like a drastic change for the artist, even with the modernized instruments.  If catchy, complex rhythms becomes important again coming into the late 2010s, then it's more than a welcome change.  Even this song's video seems pretty early 2000s during certain parts; it kind of reminds me of 2000s Beyoncé to be honest.  To me, it's the same deal as 2000s rock songs like Mr. Brightside and Girl Next Door, which you can tell take cues from 80s rock even though they obviously weren't made in the 80s.

I'm used to Ariana Grande's songs being 100% synth, so the fact that this song has so much emphasis on rhythm feels like a drastic change for the artist, even with the modernized instruments.  If catchy, complex rhythms becomes important again coming into the late 2010s, then it's more than a welcome change.  Even this song's video seems pretty early 2000s during certain parts; it kind of reminds me of 2000s Beyoncé to be honest.


I completely agree.

I think you've hit the nail on the head about the catchy, complex rhythms.  I think that is one of the things that has been lacking in mid '10s music that makes it harder, for me at least, to really get into.  Rhythm was huge in the early '10s but around 2013 it started becoming less emphasized in favor of synth and vocals.  I think a good balance is important and I hope that is the way music is headed.  Personally I am liking a lot of the stuff I am hearing this fall.

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Another new song that has more of an '00s sound than a mid-10s sound.  This song could have come out any time in the decade and fit right in but it especially fits in the late '00s (2007-2009).  More focus on catchy melody and rhythm.

That Ariana Grande song somehow reminds me of the early 00s song "Bump bump bump..", but I can't tell why.

That Ariana Grande song somehow reminds me of the early 00s song "Bump bump bump..", but I can't tell why.


Not at all.  Bump Bump Bump is a great example of early 2000s R&B.  The closest thing we have today to it is Kalin and Myles. 

Not at all.  Bump Bump Bump is a great example of early 2000s R&B.  The closest thing we have today to it is Kalin and Myles. 


Well yeah.. must be an invalid brain connection.

Missy Elliott just released her first single in a decade, produced by Pharrell Williams.  It sounds even more 2000s than Ariana Grande's track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_3Qgib6RQ

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Another new song that has more of an '00s sound than a mid-10s sound.  This song could have come out any time in the decade and fit right in but it especially fits in the late '00s (2007-2009).  More focus on catchy melody and rhythm.


It's interesting, however, I'm not sure whether it will be the sound of the late 2010s. I feel like there will be some sort of transition away from the current culture around the late 2010s. I could end up being wrong, but I still doubt that this is the sound that will be popular in 2017-2019/2020. Certainly not 2021, because that year will probably begin a new era.

Missy Elliott just released her first single in a decade, produced by Pharrell Williams.  It sounds even more 2000s than Ariana Grande's track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_3Qgib6RQ


To be honest, I'm not really in favor of this sound. I hope for something more exiting in the future. While this does sound like it could be from the 2000s, there's nothing really to suggest that this sound will become big again in the late 2010s/early 2020s. I think it's just Missy Elliot following her signature sound.

To be honest, I'm not really in favor of this sound. I hope for something more exiting in the future. While this does sound like it could be from the 2000s, there's nothing really to suggest that this sound will become big again in the late 2010s/early 2020s. I think it's just Missy Elliot following her signature sound.


It already has over 10 million views, which is pretty telling in an era that's so cutthroat to musicians who aren't ultra-young or part of the norm.

To be honest, I'm not really in favor of this sound. I hope for something more exiting in the future. While this does sound like it could be from the 2000s, there's nothing really to suggest that this sound will become big again in the late 2010s/early 2020s. I think it's just Missy Elliot following her signature sound.


Good point.

There actually were songs late into the '90s by '80s artists like Phil Collins that still had a very '80s sound.  It didn't mean the '80s were coming back.  Some artists like the Black Eyed Peas and Britney Spears completely reinvent their sound to keep up with the times.  Others do not.

I personally don't think the song sounds that 2000s.  It's tempo and loud rhythm and bassline fits more with the '10s.  Compare it to this, from 2003.

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Good point.

There actually were songs late into the '90s by '80s artists like Phil Collins that still had a very '80s sound.  It didn't mean the '80s were coming back.  Some artists like the Black Eyed Peas and Britney Spears completely reinvent their sound to keep up with the times.  Others do not.

I personally don't think the song sounds that 2000s.  It's tempo and loud rhythm and bassline fits more with the '10s.  Compare it to this, from 2003.

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Guess so. I'll be honest, I'm not a huge fan of hip hop made after 2002. I think this forum has kind of gotten away from the main subject, though (which is kind of typical, haha). What I'm concerned with is where music will go 2017/2018 onwards. I can tell that 2016 will probably be pretty similar to 2015, with some small signs of change around the late part of the year. But after 2016, I really hope that things improve. I don't care what direction music takes. All I care for is for it to sound good, and for the songs to have more variety. Also the production of these songs need to improve. In the 2010s (so far), music sounds overproduced, to the point where the instrumentals don't even sound real. Everything sounds louder and faker. I just hope we shift away from that soon. Now realistically, I don't see a huge shift happening until 2021, or so. But I do think the years leading up to it (2017-2019/2020) will start the transition.

Missy Elliott just released her first single in a decade, produced by Pharrell Williams.  It sounds even more 2000s than Ariana Grande's track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO_3Qgib6RQ


I can totally see Missy Elliott as one of those artists that will try to keep it as old school as possible haha I can relate.

It will change dramatically by 2019. There's not a doubt in my mind that 2019 will be very different from 2015. What will change though is something I don't know. I think it would be really cool if we had the early 2000s vibe back.

Guess so. I'll be honest, I'm not a huge fan of hip hop made after 2002. I think this forum has kind of gotten away from the main subject, though (which is kind of typical, haha). What I'm concerned with is where music will go 2017/2018 onwards. I can tell that 2016 will probably be pretty similar to 2015, with some small signs of change around the late part of the year. But after 2016, I really hope that things improve. I don't care what direction music takes. All I care for is for it to sound good, and for the songs to have more variety. Also the production of these songs need to improve. In the 2010s (so far), music sounds overproduced, to the point where the instrumentals don't even sound real. Everything sounds louder and faker. I just hope we shift away from that soon. Now realistically, I don't see a huge shift happening until 2021, or so. But I do think the years leading up to it (2017-2019/2020) will start the transition.


Many people said the same things back on the '00s...that it was overproduced and fake.  We now look back on that with nostalgia.

I definitely agree though that '10s music leaves much to be desired.  Thing is, I really liked the early '10s but things went south significantly around 2013.  I kind of wish the trends would have evolved in a different direction from what we had in 2011.

I don't necessarily want the early 2000s sound back like many people are wanting.  However, it would be nice to have a little more variety in Top 40 and a little more that is targeted towards older and/or male listeners.  Bottom line is I hope this teen pop era ends pretty soon and that the disco revival goes with it.  I hope to see a return to more melody focused songs with hooks with less emphasis on EDM beats and synths.

For 2015..these are good songs.

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Many people said the same things back on the '00s...that it was overproduced and fake.  We now look back on that with nostalgia.

I definitely agree though that '10s music leaves much to be desired.  Thing is, I really liked the early '10s but things went south significantly around 2013.  I kind of wish the trends would have evolved in a different direction from what we had in 2011.

I don't necessarily want the early 2000s sound back like many people are wanting.  However, it would be nice to have a little more variety in Top 40 and a little more that is targeted towards older and/or male listeners.  Bottom line is I hope this teen pop era ends pretty soon and that the disco revival goes with it.  I hope to see a return to more melody focused songs with hooks with less emphasis on EDM beats and synths.


Now that I think about it, 2010 was a pretty good year. Usher and Drake define that year in music for me. It even had a noticeable vibe. I graduated high school in 2010. I just realized how nostalgic that year is now.

Many people said the same things back on the '00s...that it was overproduced and fake.  We now look back on that with nostalgia.

I definitely agree though that '10s music leaves much to be desired.  Thing is, I really liked the early '10s but things went south significantly around 2013.  I kind of wish the trends would have evolved in a different direction from what we had in 2011.

I don't necessarily want the early 2000s sound back like many people are wanting.  However, it would be nice to have a little more variety in Top 40 and a little more that is targeted towards older and/or male listeners.  Bottom line is I hope this teen pop era ends pretty soon and that the disco revival goes with it.  I hope to see a return to more melody focused songs with hooks with less emphasis on EDM beats and synths.


I'm not asking for the early 2000s to come back either. After all, revivalism of past decades rarely (if at all) has a lasting effect. It's one thing to be inspired by the past, but it's another thing to just rip off it, for the sake of nostalgia. I want something new, something that will really blow my mind.

Good point.

There actually were songs late into the '90s by '80s artists like Phil Collins that still had a very '80s sound.  It didn't mean the '80s were coming back.  Some artists like the Black Eyed Peas and Britney Spears completely reinvent their sound to keep up with the times.  Others do not.

I personally don't think the song sounds that 2000s.  It's tempo and loud rhythm and bassline fits more with the '10s.  Compare it to this, from 2003.

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Well, to be honest, I think Missy's new track sounds particularly mid/late-2000s, like 2006-ish.  It doesn't resemble her early 2000s material like Work It or Get Ur Freak On.  However, I really don't see how it sounds like a typically '10s hip hop song; its focus is entirely centered around its percussion, with synth melodies or bassy feedback playing little to no role in the track whatsoever.  If it was conforming to usual mid-2010s musical trends, it would either have a much slower tempo and integrate all the elements of trap, or it would be some extra-polished, Pitbull-esque EDM song with rapping on it.

Maybe this song is just Missy Elliott being her usual self.  However, I think it must be at least somewhat notable that two of the latest hits have such a focus on percussion, with less of an oversaturation of synthesizer layers.  I'm not sure if 2000s influences will really come to define late 2010s pop, but at the very least music just might be headed in a fresher and more balanced direction that it's been stuck in for the past few years.

Look at the news right now. The decade is becoming more intense. Perhaps the ṕeak´ of the decade isnt 2014 and before, but late 2015 and after.
Especially all this protests against institutionalized racism. And then the attacks in France. Wild times.

Sorry for the typos and weird grammar. My laptopś buttons are screwed up, LOL.

Look at the news right now. The decade is becoming more intense. Perhaps the ṕeak´ of the decade isnt 2014 and before, but late 2015 and after.
Especially all this protests against institutionalized racism. And then the attacks in France. Wild times.

Sorry for the typos and weird grammar. My laptopś buttons are screwed up, LOL.


Most decades peak during the last four years, and I think that will be the same for the 2010s.  I don't think we have reached the quintessential year of the '10s yet personally.

Right now we have three huge elephants in the room that will likely effect the zeitgeist in this country over the next four years.  On each of these issues, the two sides are becoming ever-more polarized which could lead to unrest.

*Racism/police brutality
*LGBT rights
*Terrorism/Syrian refugees

Most decades peak during the last four years, and I think that will be the same for the 2010s.  I don't think we have reached the quintessential year of the '10s yet personally.


Well I hope by most decades you're excluding the 2000's decade, because 2006-2009 were not quite the most defining years of the 2000's, in fact, that's almost like dividing that period into 2 different eras. For the 2000's decade I still consider the quintessential years to be a tie between 2006 or 2007, however, that doesn't mean it's more related to 2008 or 2009. I still think those quintessential years are a bit closer to 2004 or 2005.

Well I hope by most decades you're excluding the 2000's decade, because 2006-2009 were not quite the most defining years of the 2000's, in fact, that's almost like dividing that period into 2 different eras. For the 2000's decade I still consider the quintessential years to be a tie between 2006 or 2007, however, that doesn't mean it's more related to 2008 or 2009. I still think those quintessential years are a bit closer to 2004 or 2005.

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Well I hope by most decades you're excluding the 2000's decade, because 2006-2009 were not quite the most defining years of the 2000's, in fact, that's almost like dividing that period into 2 different eras. For the 2000's decade I still consider the quintessential years to be a tie between 2006 or 2007, however, that doesn't mean it's more related to 2008 or 2009. I still think those quintessential years are a bit closer to 2004 or 2005.


Yeah, the 00s didnt seem to ṕeak in 2007, or whatever. It seemed more that 2003 to 2005 was the peak.  :)

Most decades peak during the last four years, and I think that will be the same for the 2010s.  I don't think we have reached the quintessential year of the '10s yet personally.

Right now we have three huge elephants in the room that will likely effect the zeitgeist in this country over the next four years.  On each of these issues, the two sides are becoming ever-more polarized which could lead to unrest.

*Racism/police brutality
*LGBT rights
*Terrorism/Syrian refugees


The 60s did peak in the later part.

The 60s did peak in the later part.

yup the 60s was the only decade that seemed to peak pretty late! Well I guess you could say the 70s too. It seemed like those decades took a LONG time to completely get away for the previous era!

Yeah the core 2000s year was 2004 or 2005. But I do think we will see the core 2010s year next year.

yup the 60s was the only decade that seemed to peak pretty late! Well I guess you could say the 70s too. It seemed like those decades took a LONG time to completely get away for the previous era!


1967-1970!

Yeah, the 00s didnt seem to ṕeak in 2007, or whatever. It seemed more that 2003 to 2005 was the peak.  :)


I wouldn't mind 2005 being the peak of the 2000's, but not 2003 though, 2003 while it was the start of mid 2000's culture creeping in during the late part of the year, 2003 for most of the part was still an early 2000's year, it was the last year of a lot of late 90's/early 2000's pop culture, or millennial fad's were relevant. I just remember how all of the sudden un-late 90's things felt by the time New Years 2004 came, like all the pop culture had changed overnight and a lot of new stuff were in full effect while other stuff had ended. 2004 was like the first full year of the core 2000's.

2004 is the quintessential 2000s year in my opinion.  It was when by far the largest amount of iconic 2000s movies came out in theaters, it was the peak year for crunk, it was the junction between early 2000s pop punk and mid-late 2000s emo, MySpace was the only social media site with serious popularity, iPods were really popular, and Eminem and 50 Cent were still huge, among many other things.  Too much key 2000s culture was past its peak in 2007 for it to be the definitive 2000s year, though it still felt comfortably 2000s.

It will change dramatically by 2019. There's not a doubt in my mind that 2019 will be very different from 2015. What will change though is something I don't know. I think it would be really cool if we had the early 2000s vibe back.


Even though the early 00s were a huge part of our childhood, I wouldn't really want a large scale revival. If there's an influence of early 00s culture, that's different. But a full scale revival never really works. I just hope the late 2010s and 2020s stand on their own. And, hopefully, the stench of the hipster culture will be dead by then. I'm sorry, but the hipster/tumblerite vibe of this decade is really cringeworthy.

Well I hope by most decades you're excluding the 2000's decade, because 2006-2009 were not quite the most defining years of the 2000's, in fact, that's almost like dividing that period into 2 different eras. For the 2000's decade I still consider the quintessential years to be a tie between 2006 or 2007, however, that doesn't mean it's more related to 2008 or 2009. I still think those quintessential years are a bit closer to 2004 or 2005.


Also I don't really see how the late 90s are the defining years of the 90s. 1996 could probably be a defining year, possibly early 1997. However 1998-1999 are definitely not "definitive 90s". As for the 80s, it's a bit arbitrary.

Yeah the core 2000s year was 2004 or 2005. But I do think we will see the core 2010s year next year.


Let's just hope it doesn't suck.

Even though the early 00s were a huge part of our childhood, I wouldn't really want a large scale revival. If there's an influence of early 00s culture, that's different. But a full scale revival never really works. I just hope the late 2010s and 2020s stand on their own. And, hopefully, the stench of the hipster culture will be dead by then. I'm sorry, but the hipster/tumblerite vibe of this decade is really cringeworthy.


The vibe of today to me just feel empty. Electro and lifeless.

Well I hope by most decades you're excluding the 2000's decade, because 2006-2009 were not quite the most defining years of the 2000's, in fact, that's almost like dividing that period into 2 different eras. For the 2000's decade I still consider the quintessential years to be a tie between 2006 or 2007, however, that doesn't mean it's more related to 2008 or 2009. I still think those quintessential years are a bit closer to 2004 or 2005.


I think the quintessential year of the '00s was 2007, with the second half of 2006 and the first half of 2008 right behind so yes I do apply that to the '00s.  2004 is too soon because not everything that defined the '00s had come into being yet by that point or it was still in its early stages.  Definitely core '00s but not the defining year.


Also I don't really see how the late 90s are the defining years of the 90s. 1996 could probably be a defining year, possibly early 1997. However 1998-1999 are definitely not "definitive 90s". As for the 80s, it's a bit arbitrary.


1996 is definitely the quintessential year, which per my theory, falls within the last four years.  Pretty much everything the '90s was could be experienced in '96.  You still had mid-90s trends going strong while late 90s trends were starting to come in.

The quintessential '10s year will fall within the 2016-2019 timeframe, with 2016 or 2017 being the most likely candidate. I stand by that.

I think the quintessential year of the '00s was 2007, with the second half of 2006 and the first half of 2008 right behind so yes I do apply that to the '00s.  2004 is too soon because not everything that defined the '00s had come into being yet by that point or it was still in its early stages.  Definitely core '00s but not the defining year.

Most of the defining stuff from 2007 carried into a lot of the 2010s in some form.  Much of it really is still alive and well today.  On the other hand, 2007 was a weak year for Eminem, Lil' Jon, Lindsay Lohan, and several 2000s franchises (i.e., Shrek, Pirates of the Caribbean, Sam Raimi Spider-Man), it marked the end of The Sopranos, Malcolm in the Middle wasn't on television anymore, and it was when the sixth generation of gaming fully died off (the seventh generation is really half-late 2000s, half-early 2010s).  I don't agree with your idea of 90s influences still existing in 2006 because that makes it seem like the 2000s were all about the Web 2.0 and portable technology, when really those didn't fully blossom until the 2010s were well underway.  Malls and blockbuster were still a significant part of popular culture for a huge chunk of the 2000s decade.  2004 is late enough that it feels comfortably removed from most millennial-era 90s influences, but old enough that it feels identifiably 2000s and not the "primitive 2010s."  I know some of this logic may seem contradictory, considering I still called 2007 a classic 2000s year, but it was really more of a peripheral classic year, like 1998 was to the 90s - a fair amount of things that would come to define the following decade were starting to become really visible, but the overall look and feel of the year was still quite akin to its own decade.

I think the quintessential year of the '00s was 2007, with the second half of 2006 and the first half of 2008 right behind so yes I do apply that to the '00s.  2004 is too soon because not everything that defined the '00s had come into being yet by that point or it was still in its early stages.  Definitely core '00s but not the defining year.

1996 is definitely the quintessential year, which per my theory, falls within the last four years.  Pretty much everything the '90s was could be experienced in '96.  You still had mid-90s trends going strong while late 90s trends were starting to come in.

The quintessential '10s year will fall within the 2016-2019 timeframe, with 2016 or 2017 being the most likely candidate. I stand by that.


I agree with you on 1996, but I still don't see how 1998-1999 are apart of the "definitive 90s". Even 1997 is only half definitive. As for 2016-2019, we'll just have to wait and see.

The vibe of today to me just feel empty. Electro and lifeless.


Do you have hope for the future?

I agree with you on 1996, but I still don't see how 1998-1999 are apart of the "definitive 90s". Even 1997 is only half definitive. As for 2016-2019, we'll just have to wait and see.

yup late 1993-1997 are the all time definitive years of the 90s.

but I still don't see how 1998-1999 are apart of the "definitive 90s". Even 1997 is only half definitive. As for 2016-2019, we'll just have to wait and see.

Yeah 1998-1999 were pretty much the pre 00s. Those were apart of the ''millennium period'' years. 1997 was a transitional year.


For 2016-2019, we need to wait till the decade ends before ANY of us decide.

1996 is definitely the quintessential year, which per my theory, falls within the last four years.  Pretty much everything the '90s was could be experienced in '96.  You still had mid-90s trends going strong while late 90s trends were starting to come in.

While I can definitely accept 1996 as the quintessential year of the 90s, I'd personally either lean towards 1994 or 1995 instead.  Grunge and Sega were already significantly less popular in '96, even though they still existed, and 1994 and 1995 were far bigger years for movies, even though 1996 had some iconic films like Happy Gilmore, Space Jam, and Fargo.  The Internet was not mainstream in 1994, but it still existed in some form, as did early 3D games like Virtua Fighter and Daytona USA.  1994 and 1995 were definitely the biggest years for the 90s brand of pop punk, and even as early as the spring of 1994, post-grunge and britpop had entered the mainstream while regular grunge was still in its prime (though Kurt Cobain died that year, the rest of the major grunge bands all achieved peak success thereafter).  Early 90s new-jack swing influences persisted into 1994 and even 1995 to a certain degree, but they were completely overshadowed by g-funk flavor towards 1996, even in alternative songs like The Distance.  A lot of people when describing the 90s focus solely on the gangsta rap style while overlooking new-jack swing, but I think gangsta rap was pretty much just a core 90s trend, whereas the new-jack swing feel was significant during almost all parts of the decade - late 90s boyband anthems like Everybody (Backstreet's Back) and Tearin' Up My Heart owe a serious amount of credit to Teddy Riley for their inspiration and success.  1994 and 1995 had a solid mixture of both g-funk and new-jack swing influences, without one genre overshadowing the other; Montell Jordan's #1 hit This Is How We Do It represents this balance perfectly.

I think a lot of people overlook the importance of the early 90s in the 90s decade as a whole because they're often categorized with the late 80s, whereas the late 90s aren't usually mixed with the early 2000s except for 1999.

Most of the defining stuff from 2007 carried into a lot of the 2010s in some form.  Much of it really is still alive and well today.  On the other hand, 2007 was a weak year for Eminem, Lil' Jon, Lindsay Lohan, and several 2000s franchises (i.e., Shrek, Pirates of the Caribbean, Sam Raimi Spider-Man), it marked the end of The Sopranos, Malcolm in the Middle wasn't on television anymore, and it was when the sixth generation of gaming fully died off (the seventh generation is really half-late 2000s, half-early 2010s).  I don't agree with your idea of 90s influences still existing in 2006 because that makes it seem like the 2000s were all about the Web 2.0 and portable technology, when really those didn't fully blossom until the 2010s were well underway.  Malls and blockbuster were still a significant part of popular culture for a huge chunk of the 2000s decade.  2004 is late enough that it feels comfortably removed from most millennial-era 90s influences, but old enough that it feels identifiably 2000s and not the "primitive 2010s."  I know some of this logic may seem contradictory, considering I still called 2007 a classic 2000s year, but it was really more of a peripheral classic year, like 1998 was to the 90s - a fair amount of things that would come to define the following decade were starting to become really visible, but the overall look and feel of the year was still quite akin to its own decade.


I am not sure I fully agree.  Apart from burgeoning technology trends I don't see how 2007 has any '10s influence at all.  It was pre-electropop and pre tablet and even pre-smartphone for half of the year (and the original iPhone wasn't near as popular as today's iPhone is).  It was the height of scene culture.  Eminem wasn't popular but hip-hop dominated that year, probably moreso than any other year of the '00s.  To me, the 2000s were about the following things, which 2007 falls right into.

1. Scene kids
2. 6th and 7th Generation gaming equally
3. Emo
4. Beginning of Web 2.0
5. Commercialized hip-hop (crunk, glam rap, ringtone rap)
6. Reality TV
7. Serial dramas (Lost, 24, Prison Break)
8. The Office
9. George W. Bush
10. The recession and the election of Barack Obama
11. Increased support for LGBT rights among youth


I agree with you on 1996, but I still don't see how 1998-1999 are apart of the "definitive 90s". Even 1997 is only half definitive. As for 2016-2019, we'll just have to wait and see.


They are not.  However, the quintessential year of the decade occurred during the final four years, in the case of the '90s, 1996.  Many times after a decade's culture peaks, it falls off pretty quickly.

1. Scene kids
2. 6th and 7th Generation gaming equally
3. Emo
4. Beginning of Web 2.0
5. Commercialized hip-hop (crunk, glam rap, ringtone rap)
6. Reality TV
7. Serial dramas (Lost, 24, Prison Break)
8. The Office
9. George W. Bush
10. The recession and the election of Barack Obama
11. Increased support for LGBT rights among youth


The election of Barack Obama occurred in 2008, not 2007, and it's not something I'd consider as a quintessential 2000's thing, definitely not, since most of his time as president has been spent throughout the 2010's decade, heck, the only full year of the 2000's he was president was 2009. The recession is more of a late 2000's/early 2010's phenomenon. 6th & 7th generation gaming equally would probably be the 2006-2007 school year.

The election of Barack Obama occurred in 2008, not 2007, and it's not something I'd consider as a quintessential 2000's thing, definitely not, since most of his time as president has been spent throughout the 2010's decade, heck, the only full year of the 2000's he was president was 2009. The recession is more of a late 2000's/early 2010's phenomenon. 6th & 7th generation gaming equally would probably be the 2006-2007 school year.


The Presidency of Obama is more of a '10s thing, but the buildup to the election and the big moment when he won his first victory is very much a reflection of '00s culture and where the country was at the time.  We saw that begin in 2007.  Millennials, the generation to come of age during the 2000s, were ready to vote in large numbers and make history.  Also, the first signs of the recession were in 2007, though nobody knew how bad it was going to be.  For most people, 2007 was the last boom year but there were dark clouds on the horizon.

I think 6th and 7th generation consoles represent the culture of the 2000s equally, even though 7th gen remained popular through the early '10s.

I am not sure I fully agree.  Apart from burgeoning technology trends I don't see how 2007 has any '10s influence at all.  It was pre-electropop and pre tablet and even pre-smartphone for half of the year (and the original iPhone wasn't near as popular as today's iPhone is).  It was the height of scene culture.  Eminem wasn't popular but hip-hop dominated that year, probably moreso than any other year of the '00s.  To me, the 2000s were about the following things, which 2007 falls right into.

1. Scene kids
2. 6th and 7th Generation gaming equally
3. Emo
4. Beginning of Web 2.0
5. Commercialized hip-hop (crunk, glam rap, ringtone rap)
6. Reality TV
7. Serial dramas (Lost, 24, Prison Break)
8. The Office
9. George W. Bush
10. The recession and the election of Barack Obama
11. Increased support for LGBT rights among youth

Most things you listed were already pretty well-established by 2004, but to address some of them:

The "beginning of Web 2.0" applies mostly to the mid-2000s; by 2007, the Web 2.0 was pretty firmly established, even with some sites still rising in popularity.  By 2004, MySpace, iTunes, and broadband Internet were already pretty popular, even though the transition was still only getting started.

Scene culture is more of a late 2000s/early 2010s hybrid movement, similar to 7th generation video game consoles.

LGBT rights have consistently progressed since the Stonewall Riots of 1969, but they didn't truly accelerate until around 2009.  Even if we're focusing on the LGBT rights movement during the 2000s in particular, most of the significant events occurred around 2003/2004, with the Lawrence v. Texas decision, Massachusetts passing gay marriage, and George W. Bush campaigning for a Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage during the 2004 Election.

I agree that The Office was a huge part of 2000s television, but it wasn't the only key series that decade, not to mention Steve Carrell had already become popular in 2004 through Anchorman:  The Legend of Ron Burgundy (though 2005-2010 was his peak).

Facebook and YouTube peaked in popularity more in the early 2010s and have continued to remain extremely relevant in the mid-2010s.  In 2007, they were both popular but still on the rise.

I think 6th and 7th generation consoles represent the culture of the 2000s equally, even though 7th gen remained popular through the early '10s.


I would place a lot more weight on the PS2, GameCube, and original XBOX than the XBOX 360 and PS3, considering the former three were popular strictly during the 2000s decade and didn't directly bridge the industry into what it is now in late 2015.  2007 did produce a lot of significant new franchises, but again, they largely carried into the 2010s as well, and are thus more of a bridge between the late 2000s and 2010s.  As far as 2000s video games go, I would refer more to the Metroid Prime and Halo trilogies, World of Warcraft, and The Sims, all of which has significant releases in 2004.

Do you have hope for the future?


Not as far as having substantial vibes. No.

Yeah, Infinty and Chirs 2007 was still pretty much a core 00s year, JUST MORE EVOLVED!!!

The election of Barack Obama occurred in 2008, not 2007, and it's not something I'd consider as a quintessential 2000's thing, definitely not, since most of his time as president has been spent throughout the 2010's decade, heck, the only full year of the 2000's he was president was 2009. The recession is more of a late 2000's/early 2010's phenomenon. 6th & 7th generation gaming equally would probably be the 2006-2007 school year.

Just like 2013-2014 school year 7th and 8th gen was equal. and the 2001-02 school year 5th and 6th gen was equal, well at least where I live! ;D

I think the difference between me and #Infinity is that I place more weight on the late '00s as the definitive '00s culture and she places more weight on the early '00s.

I think the difference between me and #Infinity is that I place more weight on the late '00s as the definitive '00s culture and she places more weight on the early '00s.

Nah I thinks she feels the mid 00s were.

Nah I thinks she feels the mid 00s were.


Yeah, I mostly place weight on the mid-2000s, but the point is I think the early 2000s were an overlooked part of 2000s culture and weren't just mostly an extension of the late 90s.  It's the same reason why I call 1994 and 1995 the quintessential 90s years instead of 1996 or 1997, since early 90s things like Sega and Nirvana were huge parts of the decade, even though prominent 80s influences didn't disappear until 1993.

Yeah, I mostly place weight on the mid-2000s, but the point is I think the early 2000s were an overlooked part of 2000s culture and weren't just mostly an extension of the late 90s.  It's the same reason why I call 1994 and 1995 the quintessential 90s years instead of 1996 or 1997, since early 90s things like Sega and Nirvana were huge parts of the decade, even though prominent 80s influences didn't disappear until 1993.

I think 1995-1996 period were the quintessential years, because that it had BOTH the 4th gen and 5th gen gaming,OJ case,The East Coast-West Coast rap wars, 1996 election,1996 Olympics,the Monday Night wars between WWF and WCW, Hulk Hogan turned heel and Stone Cold's Austin 3:16 promo resurrected the wrestling industry and started a whole new boom, The best MJ Chicago Bulls team was during that time, Yankees Dynasty started, Brett Favre(the quintessential 90s QB) had his best years of the decade.

Brett Favre(the quintessential 90s QB) had his best years of the decade.


The quintessential 2000's QB would have to be Tom Brady without a doubt, however, as of right now in the league, I'd still say that the quintessential 2010's QB is Russell Wilson, but that's debatable though. I think we need to wait until the decade is over and see what the Seahawks will do since they aren't having a good year so far.

The quintessential 2000's QB would have to be Tom Brady without a doubt, however, as of right now in the league, I'd still say that the quintessential 2010's QB is Russell Wilson, but that's debatable though. I think we need to wait until the decade is over and see what the Seahawks will do since they aren't having a good year so far.


In terms of titles, of course Brady. But regular season wise it was P.Manning.

Yeah, I mostly place weight on the mid-2000s, but the point is I think the early 2000s were an overlooked part of 2000s culture and weren't just mostly an extension of the late 90s.  It's the same reason why I call 1994 and 1995 the quintessential 90s years instead of 1996 or 1997, since early 90s things like Sega and Nirvana were huge parts of the decade, even though prominent 80s influences didn't disappear until 1993.


2006, in my opinion, is early enough that plenty of early '00s trends were still around.  The mid '00s were in full force and the late '00s were starting to be foreshadowed.  I really can't see placing the quintessential year of the '00s any earlier than 2006.  I still go with 2007 for reasons I have already explained.

2006, in my opinion, is early enough that plenty of early '00s trends were still around.  The mid '00s were in full force and the late '00s were starting to be foreshadowed.  I really can't see placing the quintessential year of the '00s any earlier than 2006.  I still go with 2007 for reasons I have already explained.


What early 2000's trends were still around in 2005 or 2006?

What early 2000's trends were still around in 2005 or 2006?


Well, there were some guys who still spiked their hair in 2005 and 2006. Though it was definitely declining in favor of emo hair.

What early 2000's trends were still around in 2005 or 2006?

6th gen gaming, Malcolm in the Middle, That's 70s Show, Charmed,Everwood, The WB, UPN, X-men movies,Hary Potter, those were only ones I could think of.

the Monday Night wars between WWF and WCW, Hulk Hogan turned heel and Stone Cold's Austin 3:16 promo resurrected the wrestling industry and started a whole new boom,

Those were the good old days of wrestling.

6th gen gaming, Malcolm in the Middle, That's 70s Show, Charmed,Everwood, The WB, UPN, X-men movies,Hary Potter, those were only ones I could think of.


In addition to what you mention here.  Some early '00s hairstyles were still popular in 2006.  The preppy Abercrombie look was also still in style, though not as prominent as it was in the early '00s.  A lot of people still wore khaki cargo pants in 2006.  Those were an early '00s thing.  Eminem didn't have his own album in 2006 but he had some hits with D12 that year.  Curtain Call had its last single, "When I'm Gone" during the first quarter of that year.

2006 was also about emo, 7th gen gaming, MySpace, YouTube, early Facebook, Blackberry phones, Blu-Ray vs HDDVD, backlash against Bush and Iraq, Westboro, Brokeback Mountain, Borat, etc which were all just as much a part of the 2000s as the trends that defined the early part of the decade.  You can't have a quintessential year of the '00s that doesn't include those things.

2006 was also about emo, 7th gen gaming, MySpace, YouTube, early Facebook, Blackberry phones, Blu-Ray vs HDDVD, backlash against Bush and Iraq, Westboro, Brokeback Mountain, Borat, etc which were all just as much a part of the 2000s as the trends that defined the early part of the decade.  You can't have a quintessential year of the '00s that doesn't include those things.


2006 introduced more 7th generation gaming consoles as well as 2005 did, however, throughout most of the year not all of it was out yet. Most of 2006 was still strictly 6th generation gaming but the last year, and you only had the XBOX 360 and Nintendo DS if that counts, while the Wii and PS3 didn't come out until the end of that year. It wasn't until the start of 2007 when 7th generation fully established itself and started coming out with great games that everybody was interested in.

2006 introduced more 7th generation gaming consoles as well as 2005 did, however, throughout most of the year not all of it was out yet. Most of 2006 was still strictly 6th generation gaming but the last year, and you only had the XBOX 360 and Nintendo DS if that counts, while the Wii and PS3 didn't come out until the end of that year. It wasn't until the start of 2007 when 7th generation fully established itself and started coming out with great games that everybody was interested in.


There was a ton of hype surrounding 7th gen in 2006 however.  Everybody was talking about the upcoming Xbox 360 vs PS3 vs Wii war.  Nonetheless, I associate 7th generation gaming with the '00s primarily.  Yes, it's also a '10s thing but I consider the current 8th-gen consoles to be the consoles of this decade.  Xbox 360 and PS3 were very much a part of '00s culture.

There was a ton of hype surrounding 7th gen in 2006 however.  Everybody was talking about the upcoming Xbox 360 vs PS3 vs Wii war.  Nonetheless, I associate 7th generation gaming with the '00s primarily.  Yes, it's also a '10s thing but I consider the current 8th-gen consoles to be the consoles of this decade.  Xbox 360 and PS3 were very much a part of '00s culture.


7th generation while it started in the mid 2000's, I consider as a late 2000's/early 2010's thing overall, because the 1st half of it from 2007-2009 the Wii had the most popular titles, and during the 2nd half from 2010-2013 the XBOX 360 and PS3 had the most popular titles. I remember how all of the sudden when Call of Duty Blacks Ops got big in 2010 it had shifted over. The only 7th generation gaming console I'd say defined 2000's culture the most would be the Wii, and for handheld devices the DS and PSP. The XBOX 360 and PS3 I'd consider it to be late 00's/early 10's culturally in terms of max popularity. I agree with you that 6th generation gaming was mostly an early 2000's thing, but when it comes to the games it also gave us some key mid 2000's titles as well. Anything from the XBOX, PS2, Gamecube, or Gameboy Advance comes to mind. What's confusing is that IMO if we consider core 2000's culture to be from 2004-2007, then throughout that span it was mostly a transition from 6th generation to 7th generation.

7th generation while it started in the mid 2000's, I consider as a late 2000's/early 2010's thing overall, because the 1st half of it from 2007-2009 the Wii had the most popular titles, and during the 2nd half from 2010-2013 the XBOX 360 and PS3 had the most popular titles. I remember how all of the sudden when Call of Duty Blacks Ops got big in 2010 it had shifted over. The only 7th generation gaming console I'd say defined 2000's culture the most would be the Wii, and for handheld devices the DS and PSP. The XBOX 360 and PS3 I'd consider it to be late 00's/early 10's culturally in terms of max popularity. I agree with you that 6th generation gaming was mostly an early 2000's thing, but when it comes to the games it also gave us some key mid 2000's titles as well. Anything from the XBOX, PS2, Gamecube, or Gameboy Advance comes to mind. What's confusing is that IMO if we consider core 2000's culture to be from 2004-2007, then throughout that span it was mostly a transition from 6th generation to 7th generation.

This.

I would consider Xbox 360 and PS3's continuing popularity in the early '10s to be a holdover from '00s culture, kind of how the NES entertainment system, an '80s console, remained relevant in the early '90s, even after the SNES was released.  Nintendo 64 was still getting games until 2001, but I would say that was a true '90s console. 

Now I will admit that the XBOX 360 and PS3 were more relevant in the '10s than either of those consoles were in their decades, but I really cant dismiss how much 7th gen consoles changed gaming during the second half of the '00s as well as what they did to PC gaming.  This was a revolution that completely changed video games and most of it happened prior to 2010.  Also, games like Guitar Hero, Rockband, etc were a HUGE part of '00s culture and declined going into the '10s, and they were primarily on the 7th gen consoles.

Plus, half of the '00s were in a 7th-gen world (2005-2009) so you can't dismiss their impact in '00s culture.

I will concede that 7th-gen was a very strong holdover from the '00s into the '10s, but their primary impact was in the '00s.

2006, in my opinion, is early enough that plenty of early '00s trends were still around.  The mid '00s were in full force and the late '00s were starting to be foreshadowed.  I really can't see placing the quintessential year of the '00s any earlier than 2006.  I still go with 2007 for reasons I have already explained.


Wait a sec, wouldn't that mean it wouldn't make sense for any year LATER than 2006 to be the quintessential 2000s year?  I know you basically see the early 2000s in general as the era of 90s holdovers, but you can't underestimate the importance of early 2000s things like Eminem, The Neptunes' golden age, 6th generation video games, and post-9/11 paranoia and patriotism.  Plenty of things came out in 2000-2003 that are undoubtedly 2000s instead of late 90s.


I would consider Xbox 360 and PS3's continuing popularity in the early '10s to be a holdover from '00s culture, kind of how the NES entertainment system, an '80s console, remained relevant in the early '90s, even after the SNES was released.  Nintendo 64 was still getting games until 2001, but I would say that was a true '90s console.

The NES in the 90s was only truly significant in 1990 and early 1991.  Come June 1991, when Sonic the Hesgehog arrived in stores, as well as the SNES two months later, and the gaming industry was already very much in its 4th generation, Sega/Nintendo era, during the months leading up to the Holiday Season of 1991.  There were still games made for the NES, but it's glory days were long gone by that point.  The system's real peak was 1988 to 1990.

Now I will admit that the XBOX 360 and PS3 were more relevant in the '10s than either of those consoles were in their decades, but I really cant dismiss how much 7th gen consoles changed gaming during the second half of the '00s as well as what they did to PC gaming.  This was a revolution that completely changed video games and most of it happened prior to 2010.

Well, they may have dramatically transformed gaming while it was still the 2000s, but again, I see them far more as bridging gaming directly into the 2010s, thus making the industry less identifiably 2000s.  In my opinion, we're STILL stuck in the same era of gaming as we were in 2007, despite the beginning of the eighth generation of gaming.

2001 and 2004, on the other hand, were revolutionary years in gaming in themselves, but unlike 2007, which paved the way for 2010s video games, the releases from '01 and '04 more directly helped shape the gaming industry as it was specifically in the 2000s.  2001 had the launch of the Game Boy Advance, original XBOX, and GameCube, as well as several popular titles like Super Smash Bros. Melee, Pikmin, Tony Hawk's Pri Skater 3, and Halo:  Combat Evolved.  2004 saw the release of several GIGANTIC PC titles, including Half-Life 2, The Sims 2, and World of Warcraft; the year also produced the Nintendo DS, GTA: San Andreas, Halo 2, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, and MGS3: Snake Eater, among other things.  All of these titles are distinctly 2000s, but they also very much separated the 2000s gaming industry from its late 90s incarnation.

Also, games like Guitar Hero, Rockband, etc were a HUGE part of '00s culture and declined going into the '10s, and they were primarily on the 7th gen consoles.

True, Guitar Hero and Rock Band were cornerstone to 2000s gaming.  However, rhythm games were already pretty significant during the first half of the 2000s, thanks to the success of Dance Dance Revolution.  It may not have achieved quite the same level of success as Guitar Hero and Rock Band, which appealed far more to gaming's core audience, but it still made a huge impact on the 2000s culture in general, holding out through the end of the 2000s thanks to the Hottest Party games on the Wii.  DDR spawned more than a handful of other music game franchises, such as In the Groove, Karaoke Revolution, Donkey Konga, Pump It Up, Dance Praise, and Boogie, as well as even a Mario-themed DDR Mix on the GameCube.  Most of these inspired products came out before Guitar Hero and Rock Band truly caught on.  In a sense, DDR was just as important to 2000s culture as Guitar Hero and Rock Band (both knock-offs, by the way, of GuitarFreaks, also developed by DDR studio Bemani), since it revived some interest in arcades again and reached out to a diverse range of people, including non-gamers and females.  It was so significant, in fact, that several schools across the country began integrating DDR into their P.E. programs, since it was one of the only video games that was actually HEALTHY for you to play.  To be fair, I'm speaking as a hardcore fan of Dance Dance Revolution, but its presence was DEFINITELY felt throughout the 2000s decade.

Plus, half of the '00s were in a 7th-gen world (2005-2009) so you can't dismiss their impact in '00s culture.

Not so much 2005 or most of 2006.

I will concede that 7th-gen was a very strong holdover from the '00s into the '10s, but their primary impact was in the '00s.


I don't know, 2011 was a pretty significant year in 7th generation gaming with titles like Batman: Arkham City and Minecraft (official release).  The fastest selling 7th Generation title that wasn't attached to the Wii was Grand Theft Auto V, which ironically came out at the end of the generation, just months before then XBOX One and PS4 hit shelves.

I think in 2019 we will have a lot better perspective on what belongs with the '00s and what belongs with the '10s.  I stand by 7th-gen gaming belonging primarily with the '00s, even though it remained popular well into the '10s.  I think we have yet to see the next shift in gaming that will come to define the '10s.  You are right in that the current 8th-gen is basically still the same era but with better graphics.

I think in 2019 we will have a lot better perspective on what belongs with the '00s and what belongs with the '10s.  I stand by 7th-gen gaming belonging primarily with the '00s, even though it remained popular well into the '10s.


I don't know, it just seems like a really sizable amount of 2007 culture is still highly relevant today.  We're still heavily dependent on Facebook and YouTube, gaming from 2007 feels extremely similar to stuff coming out now, indie rock still reigns supreme in music enthusiast communities, and we're still in the Web 2.0 era.  Considering the 2010s are over halfway over now, I think it's pretty safe to say that 2007 strongly bridged the 2000s with the 2010s.

I don't know, it just seems like a really sizable amount of 2007 culture is still highly relevant today.  We're still heavily dependent on Facebook and YouTube, gaming from 2007 feels extremely similar to stuff coming out now, indie rock still reigns supreme in music enthusiast communities, and we're still in the Web 2.0 era.  Considering the 2010s are over halfway over now, I think it's pretty safe to say that 2007 strongly bridged the 2000s with the 2010s.


The primary ingredients of pop culture; music, fashion, tv/movies, etc has changed a lot since the late 2000s.  Technology has as well when you consider the smartphone/tablet revolution.

I couldn't (nor would I want to) wear the clothes or do my hair the way I did it in 2007.  Music is very, very different.  I live in a small town and indie rock is hard to come by here so I am not sure how much it has changed, but Top 40 has come a long ways.

However, I will agree with you that the way we use the Internet (Web 2.0) and gaming are two things today that are still very similar to the mid '00s yet very different from the early '00s.  I have said somewhere else that the technology revolution that began in 1991 and brought us to 2008 was one long era that completely changed the way we live our lives.  Since 2008, it doesn't seem like things are moving as fast as they did from 1991 to 2008.  There have been advancements, such as the tablet revolution, but through most of the '90s and '00s you had to invest a huge amount of money in technology in order to keep up.  Today, that isn't really the case anymore.  What we have is "good enough" for most people.  The next frontier is the Internet of things, gigabit, and cloud computing, but I don't see that changing our lives as much as the PC revolution did in the '90s and broadband connectivity did in the '00s.  It will be more evolutionary, not revolutionary.

Plus, half of the '00s were in a 7th-gen world (2005-2009) so you can't dismiss their impact in '00s culture.

I will concede that 7th-gen was a very strong holdover from the '00s into the '10s, but their primary impact was in the '00s.

Nope, only Wii and XBOX 360 had big impact in the 00s. The generation overall was at it's peak in the early 10s, probably the VERY early 10s.

I think in 2019 we will have a lot better perspective on what belongs with the '00s and what belongs with the '10s.  I stand by 7th-gen gaming belonging primarily with the '00s, even though it remained popular well into the '10s.  I think we have yet to see the next shift in gaming that will come to define the '10s.  You are right in that the current 8th-gen is basically still the same era but with better graphics.


As I've mentioned earlier, I think Nintendo will change a lot by the late 2010s, due to the death of Satoru Iwata (a key part of the company's heart and tenacity), their upcoming entrance into the mobile market, and the pending NX project.  I doubt Sony and Microsoft will evolve much, however.


The primary ingredients of pop culture; music, fashion, tv/movies, etc has changed a lot since the late 2000s.  Technology has as well when you consider the smartphone/tablet revolution.

I couldn't (nor would I want to) wear the clothes or do my hair the way I did it in 2007.  Music is very, very different.  I live in a small town and indie rock is hard to come by here so I am not sure how much it has changed, but Top 40 has come a long ways.

Yeah, music has changed drastically ever since the 2009-2010 school year and has only gotten further away from where it was in the 2000s.  I still think most of the key 2000s releases were from the first half of the decade, however.  Identifiable 2007 fashions like emo and scene are long gone, but a sizable amount of people had pretty neutral, understated fashion as well, not to mention hipster influences were already starting to creep in at that point.

However, I will agree with you that the way we use the Internet (Web 2.0) and gaming are two things today that are still very similar to the mid '00s yet very different from the early '00s.  I have said somewhere else that the technology revolution that began in 1991 and brought us to 2008 was one long era that completely changed the way we live our lives.  Since 2008, it doesn't seem like things are moving as fast as they did from 1991 to 2008.  There have been advancements, such as the tablet revolution, but through most of the '90s and '00s you had to invest a huge amount of money in technology in order to keep up.  Today, that isn't really the case anymore.  What we have is "good enough" for most people.  The next frontier is the Internet of things, gigabit, and cloud computing, but I don't see that changing our lives as much as the PC revolution did in the '90s and broadband connectivity did in the '00s.  It will be more evolutionary, not revolutionary.

Indeed, popular culture has not evolved very quickly since 2008.  2007 is now as close to present day as 1999, 1998 for the first several months.  I'm still begging for something truly groundbreaking again, something that actually inspires thought and creativity like the innovations from the 90s, as opposed to just turning us all into one-dimensional, politically correct sheep.

All this in mind, 2004, I think, best represents the part of the analog-digital transition that took place in the 2000s, with sites like MySpace and things like iPods, flip-phones, and iTunes quickly growing in popularity, yet DVD's still in their prime and people still integrating a solid balance between active hobbies and digital technology.  Online video games like World of Warcraft and Halo 2 were quickly establishing themselves, yet the living room nature of gaming was still alive and well.  2007 is much more skewed towards the digital side, especially with video rentals and mall culture on the decline, though iPhones and tablets were not yet a craze.

Indeed, popular culture has not evolved very quickly since 2008.  2007 is now as close to present day as 1999, 1998 for the first several months.  I'm still begging for something truly groundbreaking again, something that actually inspires thought and creativity like the innovations from the 90s, as opposed to just turning us all into one-dimensional, politically correct sheep.


It depends on what aspect of popular culture you are talking about.  Technology has evolved slowly since 2008.  There really hasn't been anything revolutionary other than maybe the iPad.  Everything else has been simply evolved versions of what we already had.  Music and fashion however have changed.

When I look back at 2008, I think scene and emo, not hipsters.  I didn't start hearing about the hipster fad until 2009 and that point it was only online.  It wasn't until 2011 that I became familiar with it in person.

2008 was the height of the materialistic culture that prevailed just before the recession.  Some of that has come back but its nowhere near what it was then.



All this in mind, 2004, I think, best represents the part of the analog-digital transition that took place in the 2000s, with sites like MySpace and things like iPods, flip-phones, and iTunes quickly growing in popularity, yet DVD's still in their prime and people still integrating a solid balance between active hobbies and digital technology.  Online video games like World of Warcraft and Halo 2 were quickly establishing themselves, yet the living room nature of gaming was still alive and well.  2007 is much more skewed towards the digital side, especially with video rentals and mall culture on the decline, though iPhones and tablets were not yet a craze.


The early 2000s were significant musically.  You had Eminem, 50 Cent, Avril Lavigne, Evanescence to name a few that made big impacts.  You can't underestimate though what the late '00s had to offer.  Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Akon, Kanye West, T.I., Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Beyonce, Kelly Rowland, the Black Eyed Peas, and Timbaland all made a huge impact.

The one thing I will give 2004 props for is PC gaming.  That year was the absolute peak of the genre and it has not since and maybe never will see another year like it.

Digital downloads actually didn't overtake CDs in overall sales globally until this year.  In the United States, this happened in 2011, well after 2004.  Digital downloads for most people, including myself, were a late '00s thing.  In 2004 I was still buying CDs and most people I knew were as well.  If you didn't want to buy a CD, you had Limewire.  iTunes at the time still DRMed their songs, limiting them to one device which turned a lot of people off.

I don't know, maybe its just that I don't look back on the early 2000s with the same fondness that I view the late '00s with.  I am baffled how many people simply ignore the late '00s or group it with the '10s, not acknowledging the era for what it was and what it contributed to the culture and experience of the '00s.

As I've mentioned earlier, I think Nintendo will change a lot by the late 2010s, due to the death of Satoru Iwata (a key part of the company's heart and tenacity), their upcoming entrance into the mobile market, and the pending NX project.  I doubt Sony and Microsoft will evolve much, however.

Yeah, music has changed drastically ever since the 2009-2010 school year and has only gotten further away from where it was in the 2000s.  I still think most of the key 2000s releases were from the first half of the decade, however.  Identifiable 2007 fashions like emo and scene are long gone, but a sizable amount of people had pretty neutral, understated fashion as well, not to mention hipster influences were already starting to creep in at that point.

Indeed, popular culture has not evolved very quickly since 2008.  2007 is now as close to present day as 1999, 1998 for the first several months.  I'm still begging for something truly groundbreaking again, something that actually inspires thought and creativity like the innovations from the 90s, as opposed to just turning us all into one-dimensional, politically correct sheep.

All this in mind, 2004, I think, best represents the part of the analog-digital transition that took place in the 2000s, with sites like MySpace and things like iPods, flip-phones, and iTunes quickly growing in popularity, yet DVD's still in their prime and people still integrating a solid balance between active hobbies and digital technology.  Online video games like World of Warcraft and Halo 2 were quickly establishing themselves, yet the living room nature of gaming was still alive and well.  2007 is much more skewed towards the digital side, especially with video rentals and mall culture on the decline, though iPhones and tablets were not yet a craze.


Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of mobile gaming. I certainly would not want it to replace console gaming. But yeah, I do agree that the inventions of the 2010s have been pretty shallow. App culture is getting old, and I'm honestly not interested in the newest smartphone.

It depends on what aspect of popular culture you are talking about.  Technology has evolved slowly since 2008.  There really hasn't been anything revolutionary other than maybe the iPad.  Everything else has been simply evolved versions of what we already had.  Music and fashion however have changed.

When I look back at 2008, I think scene and emo, not hipsters.  I didn't start hearing about the hipster fad until 2009 and that point it was only online.  It wasn't until 2011 that I became familiar with it in person.

2008 was the height of the materialistic culture that prevailed just before the recession.  Some of that has come back but its nowhere near what it was then.


The early 2000s were significant musically.  You had Eminem, 50 Cent, Avril Lavigne, Evanescence to name a few that made big impacts.  You can't underestimate though what the late '00s had to offer.  Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Akon, Kanye West, T.I., Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Beyonce, Kelly Rowland, the Black Eyed Peas, and Timbaland all made a huge impact.

The one thing I will give 2004 props for is PC gaming.  That year was the absolute peak of the genre and it has not since and maybe never will see another year like it.

Digital downloads actually didn't overtake CDs in overall sales globally until this year.  In the United States, this happened in 2011, well after 2004.  Digital downloads for most people, including myself, were a late '00s thing.  In 2004 I was still buying CDs and most people I knew were as well.  If you didn't want to buy a CD, you had Limewire.  iTunes at the time still DRMed their songs, limiting them to one device which turned a lot of people off.

I don't know, maybe its just that I don't look back on the early 2000s with the same fondness that I view the late '00s with.  I am baffled how many people simply ignore the late '00s or group it with the '10s, not acknowledging the era for what it was and what it contributed to the culture and experience of the '00s.


I actually do think the late 00s are pretty distinctive from the 2010s (with the exception of 2010). I remember stores like Borders and Circut City were still around.. Also, it wasn't unusual to find a DVD store and/or a CD store in the mall. I remember the mall in my area still had a game store (forgot the name) in 2008 that sold new and old games and consoles, and now there's only freaking Game Stop (which has absolutely no variety). Honestly, things have been getting duller in the 2010s. I guess the 2010s will be seen as the adolescence of the 21st century, haha.

I would disagree with people saying technology innovation is weak in the 2010's. Firstly, compare a popular cell phone from 2010 to now, huge difference. Back in the very early 2010s Blackberries and slider phones were mostly used. Also, tablets became popular through this decade. As well as the evolution of PC laptops to touchscreen devices and convertables. Both mobile and desktop processors are way more powerful and SSDs are way cheaper, more common and have bigger space than in 2010. New apps are also popular and Facebook became something "uncool" that everyone's parents have at least for teens. Also, Microsofts Hololens is in the works. Virtual Reality is already here and I own a VR headset. Never would I have imagined my 2010 self eventually having virtual reality. VR was a pipe dream in 2010 yet today I use it. Smartwatches are also popular. Google Glass has been invented. So many things in technology are being made this decade. We have so much more robots and voice assistants now. More innovations than the 2000s in my opinion.

When I look back at 2008, I think scene and emo, not hipsters.  I didn't start hearing about the hipster fad until 2009 and that point it was only online.  It wasn't until 2011 that I became familiar with it in person.

Indie rock was really flourishing in 2007, and hipster fashion was starting to become popular in certain parts of society, even though it hadn't yet overtaken scene or emo.

The early 2000s were significant musically.  You had Eminem, 50 Cent, Avril Lavigne, Evanescence to name a few that made big impacts.  You can't underestimate though what the late '00s had to offer.  Lil Wayne, T-Pain, Akon, Kanye West, T.I., Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Beyonce, Kelly Rowland, the Black Eyed Peas, and Timbaland all made a huge impact.

Kanye West, Akon, Lil' Wayne, Beyoncé, the Black Eyed Peas, Kelly Rowland and Timbaland were all significant figures in 2004, even though some wouldn't peak until a little later.  Kanye West's The College Dropout is arguably the definitive hip hop album of 2004.  Beyoncé had the hit singles Me, Myself & I and Naughty Girl in 2004, not to mention her material with Destiny's Child later that year with Lose My Breath and Soldier.  The Black Eyed Peas became huge in 2003 when they released Elephunk, and the summer 2004 hit Let's Get It Started was one of the biggest anthems of the decade.  Akon's Trouble album was huge in 2004 thanks to Locked Up.  Lil' Wayne and T.I. both had top 15 hits in 2004 (Go DJ and Bring 'Em Out, respectively), even though their height was the late 2000s.  Timbaland may have been most popular from late 2006 to mid-2008, but he had already been a significant urban producer since 1996, with much of his success carrying into the first half of the 2000s, especially his work with Missy Elliott.

I refuse to call Katy Perry and especially Lady Gaga 2000s artists, at least in general.  Lady Gaga was basically the face of the death of 2000s music, dismantling snap/urban/Timbaland and replacing it with electropop, which laid the foundation for 2010s pop music; her bright, flashy, and eccentric image was also completely different from the urban and Avril Lavigne-influenced looks that dominated the 2000s.  Katy Perry's One of the Boys album is reasonably 2000s-styled, I guess, but even the song Hot n Cold is heading in the direction of early 2010s electropop; otherwise, Katy Perry is predominantly a 2010s artist, having dominated the charts with both her albums so far and tying Michael Jackson's Bad for most #1 singles from a single album.  The point is, even her original breakthrough was a sign that we were definitely beyond the core 2000s, even though the album itself is much more late 2000s than early 2010s.

On the other hand, the second half of the 2000s lacked a lot of music acts that were extremely vital to 2000s music in general.  Ja Rule disappeared after 2004, Nelly was unsuccessful in-between 2005's Grillz and 2010's Just a Dream, blink-182 broke up in 2005 (having just scored one of their most popular hits in 2004 with I Miss You), Creed disbanded in 2004 (it would reform years later without Scott Stapp), Jimmy Eat World didn't come out with much after Bleed American, and System of a Down went on hiatus beginning in 2006.  Even by the latter half of 2006, Lil' Jon disappeared as the dominant producer in urban music, though he did produce a hit song in 2007 with Baby Bash's Cyclone.

Digital downloads actually didn't overtake CDs in overall sales globally until this year.  In the United States, this happened in 2011, well after 2004.  Digital downloads for most people, including myself, were a late '00s thing.  In 2004 I was still buying CDs and most people I knew were as well.  If you didn't want to buy a CD, you had Limewire.  iTunes at the time still DRMed their songs, limiting them to one device which turned a lot of people off.

A lot of people were already pirating their music if they weren't using online purchasing services.  The CD peaked at the turn of the century and has been on a downward spiral ever since.  iTunes was a vital accompaniment to the iPod, which was popular in the late 2000s but which had its original breakthrough in the mid-2000s.  In my family, at least, we had been using iTunes extensively since 2004.

I don't know, maybe its just that I don't look back on the early 2000s with the same fondness that I view the late '00s with.  I am baffled how many people simply ignore the late '00s or group it with the '10s, not acknowledging the era for what it was and what it contributed to the culture and experience of the '00s.


I mostly prefer the early 2000s, in large part because rock and hip hop were much better back then and gaming was much more diverse.  To be honest, the late 2000s were a much more interesting time than now, but considering we haven't really progressed much innovatively since 2007, it feels as though that year can be easily associated with the present, at least certainly much more than 1998/1999.


I would disagree with people saying technology innovation is weak in the 2010's. Firstly, compare a popular cell phone from 2010 to now, huge difference. Back in the very early 2010s Blackberries and slider phones were mostly used. Also, tablets became popular through this decade. As well as the evolution of PC laptops to touchscreen devices and convertables. Both mobile and desktop processors are way more powerful and SSDs are way cheaper, more common and have bigger space than in 2010. New apps are also popular and Facebook became something "uncool" that everyone's parents have at least for teens. Also, Microsofts Hololens is in the works. Virtual Reality is already here and I own a VR headset. Never would I have imagined my 2010 self eventually having virtual reality. VR was a pipe dream in 2010 yet today I use it. Smartwatches are also popular. Google Glass has been invented. So many things in technology are being made this decade. We have so much more robots and voice assistants now. More innovations than the 2000s in my opinion.

The majority of things you listed were already invented by 2007; aside from its slower performance and smaller size, the original iPhone from 2007 is surprisingly similar to the devices we have today.  The vast bulk of technological change over the past eight years has just been the further establishment of these 2007 technologies, to the point where they now completely consume our lives.  It has yet to be seen whether the Google Glass will be a success.  In 1999, the Internet was slow and not even fully established, most TV's were huge, multimedia devices were completely primitive, VHS tapes were still more popular than DVD's, most animated movies were 2D-animated, and cell phones were still just seen as phones.  It was still very much the living room era, whereas by 2007, digital media was already a huge part of people's lives, albeit not to the mind-numbing extreme that it is today.

As of me writing this, Star Wars Episode VII has a 99% on Rotten Tomatoes based on 90 reviews so far.  Prepare for a new best-grossing movie of all time, as well as an imminent shift in 2010s cinema.

Speaking of Star Wars, try beating $1 billion, domestically, in order to beat Gone With The Wind in 1939/1940.  :o

I actually do think the late 00s are pretty distinctive from the 2010s (with the exception of 2010). I remember stores like Borders and Circut City were still around.. Also, it wasn't unusual to find a DVD store and/or a CD store in the mall. I remember the mall in my area still had a game store (forgot the name) in 2008 that sold new and old games and consoles, and now there's only freaking Game Stop (which has absolutely no variety). Honestly, things have been getting duller in the 2010s. I guess the 2010s will be seen as the adolescence of the 21st century, haha.


Well, it does seem like it. They do have more sophisticated technology than any other decade.

Pardon the bump, but does anybody else feel society is just starting to transition into the cultural late 2010s? Just recently, the first mobile Nintendo app got released, the Powerpuff Girls revival premiered on Cartoon Network, Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is been officially on, the DC Extended Universe is just taking off with Batman vs. Superman and DC's Legends of Tomorrow, and we're now very close to knowing exactly who the nominees are going to be in the upcoming American presidential election. Pretty soon, we'll find out more about the Nintendo NX, Pokémon GO will be released, somebody new will inhabit the White House, and presumably some significant new shows will premiere in autumn. Not to mention, the final Hunger Games movie came out near the end of 2015, as did the first installment of the Star Wars sequel trilogy. It's too early to be official about anything, but it'll definitely be interesting to see what the coming year will have in store.

Pardon the bump, but does anybody else feel society is just starting to transition into the cultural late 2010s? Just recently, the first mobile Nintendo app got released, the Powerpuff Girls revival premiered on Cartoon Network, Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe is been officially on, the DC Extended Universe is just taking off with Batman vs. Superman and DC's Legends of Tomorrow, and we're now very close to knowing exactly who the nominees are going to be in the upcoming American presidential election. Pretty soon, we'll find out more about the Nintendo NX, Pokémon GO will be released, somebody new will inhabit the White House, and presumably some significant new shows will premiere in autumn. Not to mention, the final Hunger Games movie came out near the end of 2015, as did the first installment of the Star Wars sequel trilogy. It's too early to be official about anything, but it'll definitely be interesting to see what the coming year will have in store.


I think the cultural late 2010s would start during Election Day of 2016. Since that's when a new president would get elected by then, and people would already say goodbye to Obama's presidency. Right now, we're in the transition from the cultural mid 2010s to late 2010s.

I think the cultural late 2010s would start during Election Day of 2016. Since that's when a new president would get elected by then, and people would already say goodbye to Obama's presidency. Right now, we're in the transition from the cultural mid 2010s to late 2010s.


Actually, I think the 2016-2017 school year as a whole will be the transition from mid 2010's to late 2010's culture. I don't think the transition has started yet. It still feels strictly mid 2010's right now. History says this too, because 2008-2009 was the transition from late 2000's to early 2010's culturally which was Obama's election and presidency, and 2000-2001 was the transition from late 90's to early 2000's culturally since it was George Bush's election and inauguration during that time. The transition into late 2010's culture should be complete by Summer or Fall 2017.

Actually, I think the 2016-2017 school year as a whole will be the transition from mid 2010's to late 2010's culture. I don't think the transition has started yet. It still feels strictly mid 2010's right now. History says this too, because 2008-2009 was the transition from late 2000's to early 2010's culturally which was Obama's election and presidency, and 2000-2001 was the transition from late 90's to early 2000's culturally since it was George Bush's election and inauguration during that time. The transition into late 2010's culture should be complete by Summer or Fall 2017.


Well, we're still in early 2016. So, I suppose the summer of 2016 would be the start of the transition.

Based on what I've seen so far in 2016, I think I'm going to be a huge fan of the late 10s. That's not my Clinton avatar speaking LOL The movies are great, the TV shows are great, amd the music is getting better. I went clothes shopping and liked the Summer 2016 clothes the stores were selling, I wanted to buy everything! The technologies on the horizon are very exciting. The #dominatiom continues.

Based on what I've seen so far in 2016, I think I'm going to be a huge fan of the late 10s. That's not my Clinton avatar speaking LOL The movies are great, the TV shows are great, amd the music is getting better. I went clothes shopping and liked the Summer 2016 clothes the stores were selling, I wanted to buy everything! The technologies on the horizon are very exciting. The #dominatiom continues.

2016 has been boring for me so far.

2016 has been boring for me so far.


Me too, but I already said it a million times.

I'd only look forward to the late 2010s for the hope that there will be something that'll totally catch me off guard in a positive way. As much as I try to be open-minded, there are just so few things I appreciate about the mid-2010s. Only some of the movies and legal progressive victories have been pros of this insidious period. If only there was something to spark the imagination again, as opposed to simplifying the human experience as much as possible.

2016 has been boring for me so far.


No it hasn't. You heard One Dance by Drake and thought it was the greatest song ever.

No it hasn't. You heard One Dance by Drake and thought it was the greatest song ever.


lol. But in all seriousness, it's not like she'll enjoy 2016 just by one song.

As of me writing this, Star Wars Episode VII has a 99% on Rotten Tomatoes based on 90 reviews so far.  Prepare for a new best-grossing movie of all time, as well as an imminent shift in 2010s cinema.


99%?!?!?!?!?!?!? We got ourselves a new best movie of all time upon us! And in the late 2010s in terms of cinema we'd be getting the phase 3 Marvel Cinematic movies. Movie success this decade overall have been pretty crazy.

99%?!?!?!?!?!?!? We got ourselves a new best movie of all time upon us! And in the late 2010s in terms of cinema we'd be getting the phase 3 Marvel Cinematic movies. Movie success this decade overall have been pretty crazy.


We also had Zootopia with 99%! (and the only negative review was "lol this one joke in the middle wasn't funny 2.4 out of 5 stars") People still talking sh*t about 2010s movies. I don't know what era they're comparing it to.

Is Zootopia still 99%!? Star Wars has been bumped down to 92%.

Is Zootopia still 99%!? Star Wars has been bumped down to 92%.


It's at 98%. Still insanely high, though!

It's at 98%. Still insanely high, though!


Haha, that's crazy! How long has it been out for now?

Haha, that's crazy! How long has it been out for now?


Since March 4. But its most recent box office ranking was #4!

Since March 4. But its most recent box office ranking was #4!


That's still a pretty long time for a movie to stay up and a number 4 at that! I haven't seen it but would you say it lives up to the hype? If so, I might check it out.

That's still a pretty long time for a movie to stay up and a number 4 at that! I haven't seen it but would you say it lives up to the hype? If so, I might check it out.


To me, yes, it absolutely does! It's undeniably the best picture in the entire 55-film Walt Disney Animated Canon and is far more creative than you'd expect a movie about a city of anthropomorphic animals (i.e., Chicken Little *shudders*) to be.

To me, yes, it absolutely does! It's undeniably the best picture in the entire 55-film Walt Disney Animated Canon and is far more creative than you'd expect a movie about a city of anthropomorphic animals (i.e., Chicken Little *shudders*) to be.


I think most things are better than Chicken Little. :P What a terrible movie that was... But if this one's really as good as everyone says I'd be sure to check it out! I just hope that one not-as-funny joke in the middle (like that reviewer said. It's clearly the most important part of the whole story) doesn't spoil the entire movie. ;D

We also had Zootopia with 99%! (and the only negative review was "lol this one joke in the middle wasn't funny 2.4 out of 5 stars") People still talking sh*t about 2010s movies. I don't know what era they're comparing it to.


I don't understand why people hating on 2010's movies. With the success of so many big movies out there I can't help but praise this decade. Also giving something 2.4 out of 5 stars is just crazy. Some reviewers even give negative reviews sometimes in order to get more views/traffic on their site. At least that's how it is in game reviews anyways. Not sure if it's like that for movies.

As for Zootopia I'm just happy that Disney's Revival era can still go on. In fact a lot of Disney related things seem to be doing well. Their Jungle Book movie has crazy success. Zootopia has crazy success. Marvel Cinematic universe also has crazy success. And so did Star Wars Episode 7. Success all around.

I don't understand why people hating on 2010's movies. With the success of so many big movies out there I can't help but praise this decade. Also giving something 2.4 out of 5 stars is just crazy. Some reviewers even give negative reviews sometimes in order to get more views/traffic on their site. At least that's how it is in game reviews anyways. Not sure if it's like that for movies.

As for Zootopia I'm just happy that Disney's Revival era can still go on. In fact a lot of Disney related things seem to be doing well. Their Jungle Book movie has crazy success. Zootopia has crazy success. Marvel Cinematic universe also has crazy success. And so did Star Wars Episode 7. Success all around.


I watched Jungle Book, it was great! :D Deadpool was a good movie too. We also got Kung Fu Panda 3 which I've yet to watch.  And in the next month we're getting another Captain America! This year is so hype for movies. It might even top 2014 for me, the year that had Boyhood, Guardians of The Galaxy and Interstellar  :o

I watched Jungle Book, it was great! :D Deadpool was a good movie too. We also got Kung Fu Panda 3 which I've yet to watch.  And in the next month we're getting another Captain America! This year is so hype for movies. It might even top 2014 for me, the year that had Boyhood, Guardians of The Galaxy and Interstellar  :o
I was spellbound with "Boyhood", I walk out wanting to be the Oscars winning film, but it turned out not to be.

I was spellbound with "Boyhood", I walk out wanting to be the Oscars winning film, but it turned out not to be.

I didn't like that movie.

I didn't like that movie.


Why do you hate good things?

Why do you hate good things?

Haha well in the case of the movie, I felt like it didn't have a real plot and no real hook to it. I know it's because it's a documentary-style film, but still. It was also too long. The only cool thing about it was the production of the film.

Anybody aware of this show called "DC's Legend's of Tomorrow"? The series is still pretty new, obviously from the same universe as "Arrow", "The Flash", and "Supergirl" and it looks pretty interesting from what I see. Familiar characters who I grew up with like Firestorm, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, and White Canary are in the show which sounds pretty badass.

Anybody aware of this show called "DC's Legend's of Tomorrow"? The series is still pretty new, obviously from the same universe as "Arrow", "The Flash", and "Supergirl" and it looks pretty interesting from what I see. Familiar characters who I grew up with like Firestorm, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, and White Canary are in the show which sounds pretty badass.


I'm ashamed to say I still haven't watched The Flash / Arrow, my friends keep raving about them and I feel very out of the loop  :-[

Edit: Jordan what's your opinion on Blink-182's new single?

I'm ashamed to say I still haven't watched The Flash / Arrow, my friends keep raving about them and I feel very out of the loop  :-[

Edit: Jordan what's your opinion on Blink-182's new single?


It's very 'ehh'. I wanted it be a lot faster but it's lacking the hooks 'n' licks that made Cheshire to TOYPJ really good. Mark and Matt can do much better than this and I saw AK3 band in the day and have their early CD's so I know they can make good Emo-Pop Punk.

I'm ashamed to say I still haven't watched The Flash / Arrow, my friends keep raving about them and I feel very out of the loop  :-[


Awesome gif you got on the bottom! and I'm in the category of your friends raving about the shows  :)  so you better get on Netflix and catch up with the two!

Awesome gif you got on the bottom! and I'm in the category of your friends raving about the shows  :)  so you better get on Netflix and catch up with the two!

I love shows with hype, those are the best kind.  ;D


It's very 'ehh'. I wanted it be a lot faster but it's lacking the hooks 'n' licks that made Cheshire to TOYPJ really good. Mark and Matt can do much better than this and I saw AK3 band in the day and have their early CD's so I know they can make good Emo-Pop Punk.


They're going to release their full album tomorrow. Another reason why 2016 is the greatest year.

I don't know much about band members, but I heard a lot of people saying it's not going to be the same without this Tom dude. Tom apparently was too busy looking for aliens to help song write for the album.

They're going to release their full album tomorrow. Another reason why 2016 is the greatest year.

I don't know much about band members, but I heard a lot of people saying it's not going to be the same without this Tom dude. Tom apparently was too busy looking for aliens to help song write for the album.


No? ??? It comes out in July!

Yeah, Tom Delonge is not on this album because he'd rather sing for Angels and Airwaves and look for aliens because he thinks they communicate with him and crap.

No? ??? It comes out in July!

Yeah, Tom Delonge is not on this album because he'd rather sing for Angels and Airwaves and look for aliens because he thinks they communicate with him and crap.


Haha wow, I had no idea they were serious about "Aliens Exist" from Enema! :D

Haha wow, I had no idea they were serious about "Aliens Exist" from Enema! :D


No kidding! Tom's been talking about having his phone tapped by the gov't 'cause apparently he knows "secrets no one else knows" and recently he's been blabbing his mouth about how they've contacted him and possible UFO sightings. He's dead serious about aliens and everything! Funny thing is, it's actually one of the reasons he's not on the new blink album. He'd rather hunt for aliens...

No? ??? It comes out in July!

Yeah, Tom Delonge is not on this album because he'd rather sing for Angels and Airwaves and look for aliens because he thinks they communicate with him and crap.


Oh, I thought it was tomorrow.  :( Instead it's coming out on Canada Day.

Oh, I thought it was tomorrow.  :( Instead it's coming out on Canada Day.


Yeah... Canada day... ::)

I hope the rest of the songs are better than this one. It's too slow and not hooky enough.

Yeah... Canada day... ::)

I hope the rest of the songs are better than this one. It's too slow and not hooky enough.


I liked it, but it could be better, so here's to hoping.

I liked it, but it could be better, so here's to hoping.


Maybe blink-182 can save the 2010's!

Maybe blink-182 can save the 2010's!


They might ruin it too though. I mean, after an early 2000s revival comes a mid-2000s revival  :-\\

It was a fun time to be alive.

It was a fun time to be alive.
would you say it was the greatest?

They might ruin it too though. I mean, after an early 2000s revival comes a mid-2000s revival  :-\\


True... Maybe 2016 will be different! Maybe it will lead to an early 00's revival that doesn't bother with the real 00s! :D


It was a fun time to be alive.


The late 2010's haven't happened yet... ???

would you say it was the greatest?


Yes.

True... Maybe 2016 will be different! Maybe it will lead to an early 00's revival that doesn't bother with the real 00s! :D

The late 2010's haven't happened yet... ???


;D

True... Maybe 2016 will be different! Maybe it will lead to an early 00's revival that doesn't bother with the real 00s! :D

The late 2010's haven't happened yet... ???

An early 00's revival, sign me up!

It was a fun time to be alive.


We haven't been to the late 2010s yet.

An early 00's revival, sign me up!


Feels more like a late 90s revival, especially with that Meghan Trainer song on the radio,  the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Hey Arnold! movies.

CAPTAIN AMERICA CIVIL WAR WITH 98% ON RT WITH 54 REVIEWS AND I JUST CAN'T ANYMORE

http://i.imgur.com/neu08oe.gif

The hipster culture we have in the 2010's is the only thing I like about the decade. It's the only thing that makes the decade have some form of identity and culture.

The hipster culture we have in the 2010's is the only thing I like about the decade. It's the only thing that makes the decade have some form of identity and culture.


You're welcome. - Hipster since 2008. Thick rimmed glasses without the lens and all.

Edit: that's if by "hipster culture" you mean "urban culture". That's my thing.  ;D

I'm sorry but I'm not a fan of anything hipster related at all. Hipster fashion is not for me! I'd take urban, country, or sports culture and fashion any day.

The hipster culture we have in the 2010's is the only thing I like about the decade. It's the only thing that makes the decade have some form of identity and culture.


I don't really think having an identity for the sake of having an identity is a good thing. Personally I cannot find any type substance within the 2010's hipster culture. Especially when compared to previous cultural trends like the hippies or grunge. Heck I'd even take disco and hair metal over the hipster trend. But hey, that's just me .  8)

I don't really think having an identity for the sake of having an identity is a good thing. Personally I cannot find any type substance within the 2010's hipster culture. Especially when compared to previous cultural trends like the hippies or grunge. Heck I'd even take disco and hair metal over the hipster subculture. But hey, that's just me .  8)

Yeah but I still like the hipster culture. It's the only thing I enjoy. I wish there was more of it in music though. These days all you hear on the radio is Rihanna's Work and Fifth Harmony's Work from Home.

I was a sort of proto hipster, since I was all about urban bike riding, metrosexual fashion, and eating out at ethnic restaurants, drinking coffee from local coffee shops and going to farmer's markets around 2007-2011 or so. Unfortunately when I moved out into the suburbs, most of that had to end  :\'(

Also the change in definition of hipster through the years is interesting. In the mid/late-2000s, being emo/scene was "hipster", then in the early 10s it was what I described above (along with beards, shirts with sarcastic comments, thrift/vintage shop clothing etc.), and now in the mid-10s it's become about manbuns, floral shirts and flip flops with socks.

I'm sorry but I'm not a fan of anything hipster related at all. Hipster fashion is not for me! I'd take urban, country, or sports culture and fashion any day.


I'm not into hipster fashion either.

Joss Whedon's visceral understanding of cinematic geometry and his symphonic flair for choreographing movement allowed that marquee set-piece to galvanize the separate threads of the Marvel Cinematic Universe into a unified whole.

You're welcome. - Hipster since 2008. Thick rimmed glasses without the lens and all.

Edit: that's if by "hipster culture" you mean "urban culture". That's my thing.  ;D


Thick rimmed glasses with the lenses popped out? What are you: a 1995-2003 Emo kid?


I was a sort of proto hipster, since I was all about urban bike riding, metrosexual fashion, and eating out at ethnic restaurants, drinking coffee from local coffee shops and going to farmer's markets around 2007-2011 or so. Unfortunately when I moved out into the suburbs, most of that had to end  :\'(

Also the change in definition of hipster through the years is interesting. In the mid/late-2000s, being emo/scene was "hipster", then in the early 10s it was what I described above (along with beards, shirts with sarcastic comments, thrift/vintage shop clothing etc.), and now in the mid-10s it's become about manbuns, floral shirts and flip flops with socks.


I think 2008 was the start of the hipster transition from faux-Emo/Scene to whatever-you-call-it hipsters of today. Look at this photo below, you see elements of both scene kids and modern day hipsters:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MzYedzF3mS0/UJ2PtZm-MII/AAAAAAAAAAc/hW1F4mcRdws/s1600/Hypebeast2008BIG.jpg

The way he's dressed... It's like a barf bag of awful...


Feels more like a late 90s revival, especially with that Meghan Trainer song on the radio,  the Powerpuff Girls reboot and the Hey Arnold! movies.


Late 90's/early 00's same thing. Also, no, Meghan Trainer doesn't sound 90's at all! >:(

Plus, Powerpuff Girls and Hey Arnold are totally early 00's things, too. When do you think their movies came out? ;)


I'm not into hipster fashion either.


Me neither. Hipsters look like dorks.


Joss Whedon's visceral understanding of cinematic geometry and his symphonic flair for choreographing movement allowed that marquee set-piece to galvanize the separate threads of the Marvel Cinematic Universe into a unified whole.


Yeah, ok, the movies are somewhat decent but they're no match for the original Spider-Man from 2002.

Thick rimmed glasses with the lenses popped out? What are you: a 1995-2003 Emo kid?

I think 2008 was the start of the hipster transition from faux-Emo/Scene to whatever-you-call-it hipsters of today. Look at this photo below, you see elements of both scene kids and modern day hipsters:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MzYedzF3mS0/UJ2PtZm-MII/AAAAAAAAAAc/hW1F4mcRdws/s1600/Hypebeast2008BIG.jpg

The way he's dressed... It's like a barf bag of awful...

Late 90's/early 00's same thing. Also, no, Meghan Trainer doesn't sound 90's at all! >:(

Plus, Powerpuff Girls and Hey Arnold are totally early 00's things, too. When do you think their movies came out? ;)

Me neither. Hipsters look like dorks.

Yeah, ok, the movies are somewhat decent but they're no match for the original Spider-Man from 2002.


No, thick rimmed glasses are 60s, not 90s.

No one dressed like that, what the hell is that. Other than bandana, I can't say I ever saw those other clothing items.

Meghan Trainor's rêvent song sounds like Y2K era pop and it's awful.

I don't think I've ever seen a great Spiderman movie. Good, yeah, but not great. B-list. Civil War might change that.  ;)

No, thick rimmed glasses are 60s, not 90s.

No one dressed like that, what the hell is that. Other than bandana, I can't say I ever saw those other clothing items.

Meghan Trainor's rêvent song sounds like Y2K era pop and it's awful.

I don't think I've ever seen a great Spiderman movie. Good, yeah, but not great. B-list. Civil War might change that.  ;)


Sorry, but they are also 90's! >:(

You sure? Here's some real life photos of 2008 hipsters:

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/images/2008/01/28/dsc01563.jpg

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/images/2007/03/21/img_3245.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/julia60476/Hipster2SMD.jpg

Oh gross. Meghan Trainor is one of the worst artist of today.

B-LIST!? DID YOU JUST CALL THE FIRST SPIDER-MAN A B-LIST MOVIE!?!?!?! HOW DARE YOU! >:(

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/images/2007/03/21/img_3245.jpg


This photo looked like it came from the 70s, but with modern clothing.

This photo looked like it came from the 70s, but with modern clothing.


Yeah, it kinda does. I guess they took the photo with an older camera.

I can't say I saw anyone dressed like that ever, much less seen 5 people in one photo dressed in the same weird way.

I can't say I saw anyone dressed like that ever, much less seen 5 people in one photo dressed in the same weird way.


Neither did I but I looked it up and apparently this was a huge thing in New York. I gotta say, hipsters have not improved their look at all. They've gone from one awful to another. 8-P

Thick rimmed glasses with the lenses popped out? What are you: a 1995-2003 Emo kid?

I think 2008 was the start of the hipster transition from faux-Emo/Scene to whatever-you-call-it hipsters of today. Look at this photo below, you see elements of both scene kids and modern day hipsters:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MzYedzF3mS0/UJ2PtZm-MII/AAAAAAAAAAc/hW1F4mcRdws/s1600/Hypebeast2008BIG.jpg

The way he's dressed... It's like a barf bag of awful...

Late 90's/early 00's same thing. Also, no, Meghan Trainer doesn't sound 90's at all! >:(

Plus, Powerpuff Girls and Hey Arnold are totally early 00's things, too. When do you think their movies came out? ;)

Me neither. Hipsters look like dorks.

Yeah, ok, the movies are somewhat decent but they're no match for the original Spider-Man from 2002.

That picture is stereotypical 2010s fashion.

That picture is stereotypical 2010s fashion.


Do people still wear those dumb glasses?

That picture is stereotypical 2010s fashion.


LOL on what planet. I'm going to go downtown tomorrow and take pictures of real hipsters, it's even worse than that.

LOL on what planet. I'm going to go downtown tomorrow and take pictures of real hipsters, it's even worse than that.


Just take some photos of barf bags. It's the same thing.

That picture is stereotypical 2010s fashion.


Really? I don't really notice this look anymore. Last time I saw it was around 2010 or 2011. Core 2010s fashion is more along the lines of this:

http://data.whicdn.com/images/106999896/large.jpg

http://cdn11.lbstatic.nu/files/looks/large/2014/04/23/3714126_4.jpg?1398233110

https://thefashiontag.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/men-styles-undercut.jpg

Can't stand it.  8-P

Really? I don't really notice this look anymore. Last time I saw it was around 2010 or 2011. Core 2010s fashion is more along the lines of this:

http://data.whicdn.com/images/106999896/large.jpg

http://cdn11.lbstatic.nu/files/looks/large/2014/04/23/3714126_4.jpg?1398233110

https://thefashiontag.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/men-styles-undercut.jpg

Can't stand it.  8-P


They look like walking barf bags. Planet of the barf bags!

Really? I don't really notice this look anymore. Last time I saw it was around 2010 or 2011. Core 2010s fashion is more along the lines of this:

http://data.whicdn.com/images/106999896/large.jpg

http://cdn11.lbstatic.nu/files/looks/large/2014/04/23/3714126_4.jpg?1398233110

https://thefashiontag.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/men-styles-undercut.jpg

Can't stand it.  8-P

The early 2010s are just as much 2010s as the mid 2010s are. And that type of fashion defined the early 10's which means it defines the 2010s as a whole.

Here's another pic defining 10's fashion.
https://images.rapgenius.com/8f0b9cc751425bbc88766a5c07a3369c.1000x563x1.jpg

Do people still wear those dumb glasses?

I think those glasses were popular in the early 10s.

Really, all of the fashion from the early 10s I associate with the 2010s overall. The early 2010s are the most defining part of the decade and the part everyone will look back on. That's why I associate the early 2010s as the main culture of the 2010s. Just like I associate the early 2000s as the main culture of the 2000s because it is most memorable.

I never saw anyone dress like that... Not in the early 10s, not in 2008, not ever. I feel like I missed out. I totally would've been into that.

I think those glasses were popular in the early 10s.

Really, all of the fashion from the early 10s I associate with the 2010s overall. The early 2010s are the most defining part of the decade and the part everyone will look back on. That's why I associate the early 2010s as the main culture of the 2010s. Just like I associate the early 2000s as the main culture of the 2000s because it is most memorable.


Yeah, I can see that. The last time I saw those glasses would be 2011-ish.

The early 00's are definitely the most memorable part of the 2000's for sure! They were so colorful and exciting.


I never saw anyone dress like that... Not in the early 10s, not in 2008, not ever. I feel like I missed out. I totally would've been into that.


Missed out...?? I think you should count yourself lucky!!

Guys... I know us early 10s teens were crazy party animals and all but this...

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/images/2008/01/28/dsc01563.jpg

Is an 80s throwback party, not regular hipster fashion. I mean he even has an NES controller wrapped around his neck.

Nice try, you wanted me to think I missed out on a GOAT trend and think I wouldn't notice. OR you saw a dude dressing like that but he was just going to a party because everyone in the early 10s was partying all the time. It was not intentional fashion.

Guys... I know us early 10s teens were crazy party animals and all but this...

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/images/2008/01/28/dsc01563.jpg

Is an 80s throwback party, not regular hipster fashion. I mean he even has an NES controller wrapped around his neck.

Nice try, you wanted me to think I missed out on a GOAT trend and think I wouldn't notice. OR you saw a dude dressing like that but he was just going to a party because everyone in the early 10s was partying all the time. It was not intentional fashion.


What!? How's that an 80's party? They don't look even remotely 80's!!

That photo is from some show for some crappy indie rock band. Seriously chek it:

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/2008/01/modern-hipster.html

Also, it seems hipster were pretty well known in some areas roughly around '08. Look at this photo!

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/JKHUYSMAN/hipsterjockcomic.jpg

Look at this blogpost, too!

http://www.ihateyourfashion.com/2008/06/wicker-park-hipster-painfully-unaware.html

From 2008:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t165/ihateyourfashion/72.jpg

Hipsters have been around for quite a while now! :o

I found even more from, not 2008, but 2007! :o

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/12/24/20/2F99B8F600000578-3373601-image-a-5_1450987530829.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3373601/Mast-Brothers-melted-chocolatier-s-products-make-bean-bar-products-fire-hipster-transformation.html

http://www.beautynewsnyc.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/williamsburg1.jpg

http://www.beautynewsnyc.com/city-pulse/the-hipster-never-died-williamsburg-the-musical/

Those are the hipsters I'm more familiar with  ;D Yeah, I think it was around 2008 that hipster more or less became a word to insult upper-middle class urbanites.

In that 80s throwback photo you linked, it says in the comments that that's how people dressed 1989-1991, so yeah it's late 80s party.The point of a throwback party is to make it more outlandish. You don't wanna wear something boring to a party.

Lady Gaga will make a huge comeback!

Lady Gaga will make a huge comeback!


Do you mean to say Beysus? The early 2000s throwback is in full swing.

Lady Gaga will make a huge comeback!

I see her coming back, but I don't see her being popular. When she came back in 2013 nobody really cared about her anymore.

Do you mean to say Beysus? The early 2000s throwback is in full swing.

I wish! I haven't noticed any early 00's throwback yet.

Do you mean to say Beysus? The early 2000s throwback is in full swing.


Don't you mean Beyoncé?

I see her coming back, but I don't see her being popular. When she came back in 2013 nobody really cared about her anymore.


I agree.

Don't you mean Beyoncé?


You don't say YHWH's name why would you say Beysus's name  >:( Sacrilege.

You don't say YHWH's name why would you say Beysus's name  >:( Sacrilege.


I'm sorry! Sorry!! I'm so sorry!!! Sorry!!!!!!

Those are the hipsters I'm more familiar with  ;D Yeah, I think it was around 2008 that hipster more or less became a word to insult upper-middle class urbanites.

In that 80s throwback photo you linked, it says in the comments that that's how people dressed 1989-1991, so yeah it's late 80s party.The point of a throwback party is to make it more outlandish. You don't wanna wear something boring to a party.


That seems to be the case but a lot of those articles/photos are also from 2007. Hipster subculture (that's not being scene/faux-emo) seems a lot older than I thought. I guess technically it's also a 00's thing, huh? ::)

???

That is not 1989-1991 at all! I remember people dressing in funny colors and wearing funny shoes but nobody every dressed like that!

Look, here's another one

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/2007/03/hipsters_dont_d.html

People serious dressed like this back then! Seems like it was actually a thing!


Do you mean to say Beysus? The early 2000s throwback is in full swing.


Beyonce isn't even that early 00's. Now Kelly Rowland, on the other hand, is totally early 00's. Remember that song Stole? It's this RnB-Rock song that's angsty like Papa Roach and it's even got record scratches and everything.

Sorry, but they are also 90's! >:(

You sure? Here's some real life photos of 2008 hipsters:

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/images/2008/01/28/dsc01563.jpg

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/images/2007/03/21/img_3245.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p114/julia60476/Hipster2SMD.jpg

Oh gross. Meghan Trainor is one of the worst artist of today.

B-LIST!? DID YOU JUST CALL THE FIRST SPIDER-MAN A B-LIST MOVIE!?!?!?! HOW DARE YOU! >:(


the first photo looks like a cover of a 90's boy band.

Do people still wear those dumb glasses?


Sasha Banks does.

They look like walking barf bags. Planet of the barf bags!


;D

That seems to be the case but a lot of those articles/photos are also from 2007. Hipster subculture (that's not being scene/faux-emo) seems a lot older than I thought. I guess technically it's also a 00's thing, huh? ::)

???

That is not 1989-1991 at all! I remember people dressing in funny colors and wearing funny shoes but nobody every dressed like that!

Look, here's another one

http://danielhernandez.typepad.com/daniel_hernandez/2007/03/hipsters_dont_d.html

People serious dressed like this back then! Seems like it was actually a thing!

Beyonce isn't even that early 00's. Now Kelly Rowland, on the other hand, is totally early 00's. Remember that song Stole? It's this RnB-Rock song that's angsty like Papa Roach and it's even got record scratches and everything.


You're supposed to look ridiculous! It's an 80s party, it doesn't have to be accurate :P

That guy is also definitely at an 80s party. He has an early 80s moustache with late 80s clothing.

Kelly Wholand hasn't released any album that has 94 on Metacritic. Beysus has.

I'm sorry! Sorry!! I'm so sorry!!! Sorry!!!!!!


https://lilyincanada.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/tumblr_lare62ddae1qb1hjto1_500.jpg

You're supposed to look ridiculous! It's an 80s party, it doesn't have to be accurate :P

That guy is also definitely at an 80s party. He has an early 80s moustache with late 80s clothing.

Kelly Wholand hasn't released any album that has 94 on Metacritic. Beysus has.


It should totally be accurate! How dare they spit upon the 80's! >:(

The article said they're "hipsters" though. If it says they're hipsters than they're probably hipsters. ;)

I'm not even really into this type of music but even I know that Kelly Rowland's debut is much better than Beyonce's debut. With Stole you can see that Kelly was branching out and trying to latch on to the Nu Metal angstyness of the times without being Nu Metal herself.


https://lilyincanada.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/tumblr_lare62ddae1qb1hjto1_500.jpg


You Canadians are so forgiving. ::) My uncle isn't like this, though. He's a rude dude.

It should totally be accurate! How dare they spit upon the 80's! >:(

The article said they're "hipsters" though. If it says they're hipsters than they're probably hipsters. ;)

I'm not even really into this type of music but even I know that Kelly Rowland's debut is much better than Beyonce's debut. With Stole you can see that Kelly was branching out and trying to latch on to the Nu Metal angstyness of the times without being Nu Metal herself.

You Canadians are so forgiving. ::) My uncle isn't like this, though. He's a rude dude.


Well I don't think hipster was well defined then. Probably just neo-hippies.

Have you listened to the new Gospel LEMONADE? Neither have I. It's not on Spotify yet.  :\'(

http://puu.sh/oywhk/c4702f62db.gif

Oh man, then we have Views From The 6ix by Drake. The late 10s are having an epic precursor.

Well I don't think hipster was well defined then. Probably just neo-hippies.

Have you listened to the new Gospel LEMONADE? Neither have I. It's not on Spotify yet.  :\'(

http://puu.sh/oywhk/c4702f62db.gif

Oh man, then we have Views From The 6ix by Drake in a few weeks. The late 10s are having an epic precursor.


That's what I was thinking, too. This is where it started going from dorky faux-Emo kids to dorks with beards.

Nope, but have you heard blink-182's new teaser for the song "Built This Pool"? Listen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMeLGOHfNI

I hope the whole album sounds more like this than Bored to Death. I also hope the late 10's are more about Sum and blink since they should both be coming out with new albums this year. Do I smell a comeback? Well, I am not holding my breath but it would be nice.

https://lilyincanada.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/tumblr_lare62ddae1qb1hjto1_500.jpg


Those are a lot of sorry-s!  :o

It should totally be accurate! How dare they spit upon the 80's! >:(

The article said they're "hipsters" though. If it says they're hipsters than they're probably hipsters. ;)

I'm not even really into this type of music but even I know that Kelly Rowland's debut is much better than Beyonce's debut. With Stole you can see that Kelly was branching out and trying to latch on to the Nu Metal angstyness of the times without being Nu Metal herself.

You Canadians are so forgiving. ::) My uncle isn't like this, though. He's a rude dude.


There are more rude people than your uncle.  :D

There are more rude people than your uncle.  :D


That is true. I'm sure Canada has lots of rude people. ;D

That's what I was thinking, too. This is where it started going from dorky faux-Emo kids to dorks with beards.

Nope, but have you heard blink-182's new teaser for the song "Built This Pool"? Listen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqMeLGOHfNI

I hope the whole album sounds more like this than Bored to Death. I also hope the late 10's are more about Sum and blink since they should both be coming out with new albums this year. Do I smell a comeback? Well, I am not holding my breath but it would be nice.


Damn that's awesome  :D Another album to be excited over. Would you say 2016 is on its way to be honorary early 2000s?

Damn that's awesome  :D Another album to be excited over. Would you say 2016 is on its way to be honorary early 2000s?


Not yet. If by the end of 2016 blink and Sum release albums that are actually really good, big hits and bring back old school Pop Punk then maybe but that honor might go to 2017 if it's even better. 

Not yet. If by the end of 2016 blink and Sum release albums that are actually really good, big hits and bring back old school Pop Punk then maybe but that honor might go to 2017 if it's even better.


Sum 41? Didn't Deryck get completely wasted? Poor guy  :(

Sum 41? Didn't Deryck get completely wasted? Poor guy  :(


Yeah, he had liver failure and was in the hospital. Now he's completely sober, Dave is back in the band and they're finishing up an album. Here's hoping it's good Pop Punk about naked dudes and pools like blink-182 is doing. 

Looks like Views From The 6ix is a trash album  :\'( shame, I liked One Dance, but it's apparently the only good song on it.

Sticking with Beysus.

I'm thinking of cutting my hair to fit in with the hip, tough crowd!

I'm thinking of cutting my hair to fit in with the hip, tough crowd!


Get an undercut they look 🔥

Blink 182 and Calvin Harris make for a decent Friday.

That is true. I'm sure Canada has lots of rude people. ;D


I'm sure New York has some too.

I'm thinking of cutting my hair to fit in with the hip, tough crowd!


cutting it all off? :o

I'm sure New York has some too.


Trump supporters from NYC are some of the rudest.

I'm thinking of cutting my hair to fit in with the hip, tough crowd!


The only time "tough" and "2010's" go together is if "not" is inbetween them.


I'm sure New York has some too.


Oh, definitely. New York can be super rude, especially downtown.

I'm thinking of cutting my hair to fit in with the hip, tough crowd!

WWaLxFIVX1s
Don't do it.
http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/crying-waterfalls.gif

I'm thinking of cutting my hair to fit in with the hip, tough crowd!


Even the "tough" crowd tries look like hipsters in this wacky decade.  :o

The only time "tough" and "2010's" go together is if "not" is inbetween them.

Oh, definitely. New York can be super rude, especially downtown.


today's people have hardly any patience.  ::)

Even the "tough" crowd tries look like hipsters in this wacky decade.  :o


http://www.menshairstylestoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Undercut-Haircut14-Pompadour-Undercut.jpg

"Yo, U wanna mess wit me, sun!?"


today's people have hardly any patience.  ::)


I agree. They're too busy staring at their phones and getting instant gratification that they've forgotten what it means to be patient. ::)

My bus driver the other week had an undercut, some short facial hair and those giant plugs earings. He looked badass. Still the only bus driver I recognize. 

My bus driver the other week had an undercut, some short facial hair and those giant plugs earings. He looked badass. Still the only bus driver I recognize.


I wouldn't wanna get on that guys bus. ::)

I wouldn't wanna get on that guys bus. ::)


He looked like he should be driving a motorcycle  :o

He looked like he should be driving a motorcycle  :o


Don't hipsters drive those stupid little devices? They're like segways without handles.

Don't hipsters drive those stupid little devices? They're like segways without handles.


Yeah but he's a badass hipster.

Also I think that was a fad. I don't see them anymore.

Yeah but he's a badass hipster.

Also I think that was a fad. I don't see them anymore.


The only time "badass" and "hipster" go together in a sentence is if "not" is in between them.

I saw one last week!!

http://www.menshairstylestoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Undercut-Haircut14-Pompadour-Undercut.jpg

"Yo, U wanna mess wit me, sun!?"

I agree. They're too busy staring at their phones and getting instant gratification that they've forgotten what it means to be patient. ::)


I'm with you on that one, I ride the buses every day to and from work.

I'm with you on that one, I ride the buses every day to and from work.


I have a car. ;D

2016 could be the best year of the 2010's. One of the bands I grew up with, Belvedere, just released a new album called "Revenge of the 5th" and it's super good Skate Punk just like what I used to listen to. It's sounds just like their 1998-2002 albums! Those are the best ones but it's close to being just as good. I really hope blink-182 and Sum 41 pull through with some good sh!t this year...

2016 feels the same as 2014 and 2015. I don't know where people are sensing this change.

2016 feels the same as 2014 and 2015. I don't know where people are sensing this change.


2016 has been legendary so far. I agree the vibe is the same as 2015, just everything isn't tra$h anymore.

2016 feels the same as 2014 and 2015. I don't know where people are sensing this change.


I gave my reasons.


2016 has been legendary so far. I agree the vibe is the same as 2015, just everything isn't tra$h anymore.


2016 has the potential to be legendary. I have my fingers crossed for something good!

2016 feels the same as 2014 and 2015. I don't know where people are sensing this change.


2016 isn't super different from the previous two years, but I think considerable change is on its way. Soon, Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will begin, a new President of the United States will be elected, the Nintendo NX will hit stores, and technology like virtual reality and self-driving cars might start to grow more popular.

2016 isn't super different from the previous two years, but I think considerable change is on its way. Soon, Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will begin, a new President of the United States will be elected, the Nintendo NX will hit stores, and technology like virtual reality and self-driving cars might start to grow more popular.

I still think the change is gonna happen in 2017 though. I remember people thought everything would change in 2012 and it didn't, 2013 was actually the changing year. I feel the same will happen this time. The NX is gonna be released in March 2017 I heard. The president won't be in office until 2017 too I'm correct. But you may be right. No one knows for sure haha.

2016 could be the best year of the 2010's. One of the bands I grew up with, Belvedere, just released a new album called "Revenge of the 5th" and it's super good Skate Punk just like what I used to listen to. It's sounds just like their 1998-2002 albums! Those are the best ones but it's close to being just as good. I really hope blink-182 and Sum 41 pull through with some good sh!t this year...


I checked out the song "Hairline", It sounds pretty sweet!  :D Never heard of the band before, but from what I've heard, they're pretty good!

I checked out the song "Hairline", It sounds pretty sweet!  :D Never heard of the band before, but from what I've heard, they're pretty good!


Nice! The whole album is on Bandcamp is you wanna check it out: https://belvedere.bandcamp.com/album/the-revenge-of-the-fifth

I'd recommend their first three albums (Because No One Stopped Us, Angels Live in my Town and Twas Hell Said Former Child) too so you can get a good feel of the band's sound.

Here's some old school favs I'd skate to:

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2016 feels the same as 2014 and 2015. I don't know where people are sensing this change.


Me neither dude. At least when it comes to popular music. Though, to be fair, we're barely in May now. I don't think we can expect any signs of change until at least the fall of this year. And even then, it'll probably only be the first signs, if any at all.

2016 isn't super different from the previous two years, but I think considerable change is on its way. Soon, Phase 3 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe will begin, a new President of the United States will be elected, the Nintendo NX will hit stores, and technology like virtual reality and self-driving cars might start to grow more popular.


Hopefully the hipster trend will finally begin to decline, as well. Though it probably won't be 100% dead until late 2017/early 2018. Movies and T.V. may remain the same for the rest of the decade, as much as I hate to admit. Not sure about music though.

I still think the change is gonna happen in 2017 though. I remember people thought everything would change in 2012 and it didn't, 2013 was actually the changing year. I feel the same will happen this time. The NX is gonna be released in March 2017 I heard. The president won't be in office until 2017 too I'm correct. But you may be right. No one knows for sure haha.


2012 was a very changeful year, so they weren't wrong.  ???

I think the first signs of late 10s culture are already here, we just don't know it, because we don't know what late 10s culture is. But there's some interesting things happening, such as tablet sales taking a nosedive to the point some analysts are calling it a fad, and Intel has pulled out the mobile market. Maybe smart watches might be important in the late 10s? Maybe home automation will take off in the late 10s, it's already been around for a while. Who knows.

I still think the change is gonna happen in 2017 though. I remember people thought everything would change in 2012 and it didn't, 2013 was actually the changing year. I feel the same will happen this time. The NX is gonna be released in March 2017 I heard. The president won't be in office until 2017 too I'm correct. But you may be right. No one knows for sure haha.


You're 100% right. The same seasons a brand new president gets elected and inaugurated has historically been huge transition years for the pop culture. Even with many other stuff as well including fashion or music. Late 2016-mid 2017 will most likely be the mid 2010's to late 2010's transition culturally. Just like how late 2000-mid 2001 or late 2008-mid 2009 were very transitional due to Bush or Obama coming in office, and everything else pop culturally (music, fashion, TV, internet, gaming, etc.) tends to always suddenly change around the same time.

You're 100% right. The same seasons a brand new president gets elected and inaugurated has historically been huge transition years for the pop culture. Even with many other stuff as well including fashion or music. Late 2016-mid 2017 will most likely be the mid 2010's to late 2010's transition culturally. Just like how late 2000-mid 2001 or late 2008-mid 2009 were very transitional due to Bush or Obama coming in office, and everything else pop culturally (music, fashion, TV, internet, gaming, etc.) tends to always suddenly change around the same time.


That's true. Late 2012/Early 2013 was a big shift as well even though the president stayed the same.

That's true. Late 2012/Early 2013 was a big shift as well even though the president stayed the same.


Yep, that was the transition from early 2010's to mid 2010's culture. There were mid 2010's influences as early as Spring 2012 though.

2012 was a very changeful year, so they weren't wrong.  ???

I think the first signs of late 10s culture are already here, we just don't know it, because we don't know what late 10s culture is. But there's some interesting things happening, such as tablet sales taking a nosedive to the point some analysts are calling it a fad, and Intel has pulled out the mobile market. Maybe smart watches might be important in the late 10s? Maybe home automation will take off in the late 10s, it's already been around for a while. Who knows.

2012 wasn't changeful, it felt like 2011. 2013 is when I noticed change. Nothing changed during 2012, so they were wrong.

2012 wasn't changeful, it felt like 2011. 2013 is when I noticed change. Nothing changed during 2012, so they were wrong.


Naw, I remember the party I went to when Bams got reelected. The music, the fashion, just pop culture and world events in general, mid-2010s culture had already overtaken early 10s culture by November 6, 2012.

Naw, I remember the party I went to when Bams got reelected. The music, the fashion, just pop culture and world events in general, mid-2010s culture had already overtaken early 10s culture by November 6, 2012.


Not that early, that was still in the transitional period. I wouldn't mind Summer or Fall 2013 being the point where mid 2010's culture officially took over early 2010's. Fall 2012-Spring 2013 was transitional, or half early 2010's and half mid 2010's. I agree that 2012 was not exactly like 2011, especially here in the US. 2012 was still an early 2010's year but it was the elderly early 2010's year. Mid 2010's influences started coming in the moment 2012 hit. 2012 no longer felt like the peak of early 2010's culture like 2010 or 2011 did. 2009 was the baby of early 2010's culture.

Not that early, that was still in the transitional period. I wouldn't mind Summer or Fall 2013 being the point where mid 2010's culture officially took over early 2010's. Fall 2012-Spring 2013 was transitional, or half early 2010's and half mid 2010's. I agree that 2012 was not exactly like 2011, especially here in the US. 2012 was still an early 2010's year but it was the elderly early 2010's year. Mid 2010's influences started coming in the moment 2012 hit. 2012 no longer felt like the peak of early 2010's culture like 2010 or 2011 did. 2009 was the baby of early 2010's culture.


Hey, I said overtook, not that early 10s vibes were dead :P I agree that the transition period ends summer/fall 2013 or so, when the greatest show ever Breaking Bad had its epic finale.

Late 2012 is also when the Nexus 7 and iPad 3 came out. That's when I remember tablets truly taking off.

Summer 2012 when the Galaxy S3 came out is also a when Android became a bigger competitor. Another thing to mention is netbooks also died in 2012 and ultrabooks took their place. 2012 is also when the dreaded DLC season pass concept truly took off, when Call of Duty Black Ops 2 was announced to have one.

Hey, I said overtook, not that early 10s vibes were dead :P I agree that the transition period ends summer/fall 2013 or so, when the greatest show ever Breaking Bad had its epic finale.

Late 2012 is also when the Nexus 7 and iPad 3 came out. That's when I remember tablets truly taking off.

Summer 2012 when the Galaxy S3 came out is also a when Android became a bigger competitor.

I still think 2013 was the transitional year. The music from January and December 2013 sound very different. The music from January and December 2012 sound very similar. Also 2013 we saw the first generation of smartwatches come out like the first Samsung smartwatch. Tablets and smartphones were already big in 2012. I didn't notice any hints of the mid 2010s in 2012. The first true, full mid 2010s year was 2014.

I still think 2013 was the transitional year. The music from January and December 2013 sound very different. The music from January and December 2012 sound very similar. Also 2013 we saw the first generation of smartwatches come out like the first Samsung smartwatch. Tablets and smartphones were already big in 2012. I didn't notice any hints of the mid 2010s in 2012. The first true, full mid 2010s year was 2014.


Smart watches never really took off until the Moto360 in 2014 from what I remember, and the Apple Watch after it (and in the grand scheme of things, it has been a flop technology for the most part, not pop culturally significant). Samsung watches run on Tidal and are only compatible with Samsung phones, I don't remember anyone even wanting it  ;D

Naw, by late 2012 no one played dubstep at clubs anymore and a lot of electropop was out. No one was shuffling for Obama. In orientation week 2012 (summer 2012) they still played a f*ckton of LMFAO, Katy Perry, Kesha, Lady Gaga and of course the Gangnam Style.

Trust me I know all the dance trends of 2012. That's when I hit legal drinking age LOL

Also fashion (for men) changed a lot towards the end of 2012. In winter 2012, it became unfashionable to wear clothes that had brands on them, bye bye to American Eagle and Canada Goose, in came H&M and the peacoats.

Smart watches never really took off until the Moto360 in 2014 from what I remember, and the Apple Watch after it (and in the grand scheme of things, it has been a flop technology for the most part, not pop culturally significant). Samsung watches run on Tidal and are only compatible with Samsung phones, I don't remember anyone even wanting it  ;D

Naw, by late 2012 no one played dubstep at clubs anymore and a lot of electropop was out. No one was shuffling for Obama. In orientation week 2012 (summer 2012) they still played a f*ckton of LMFAO, Katy Perry, Kesha, Lady Gaga and of course the Gangnam Style.

Trust me I know all the dance trends of 2012. That's when I hit legal drinking age LOL

Also fashion (for men) changed a lot towards the end of 2012. In winter 2012, it became unfashionable to wear clothes that had brands on them, bye bye to American Eagle and Canada Goose, in came H&M and the peacoats.

Electropop never fully died out. There are still electro pop songs today even though it's less popular. In 2012 electropop was still huge then it declined in 2013. It may have been slightly different in the U.S. because they had an election in 2012. But for me 2012 was just another year. I honestly hated 2012, it was the worst year of my life for my personal life.

Electropop never fully died out. There are still electro pop songs today even though it's less popular. In 2012 electropop was still huge then it declined in 2013. It may have been slightly different in the U.S. because they had an election in 2012. But for me 2012 was just another year. I honestly hated 2012, it was the worst year of my life for my personal life.


I'm in Ontario  ;D Still went to that Obama party the PoliSci kids were having LOL Will definitely go to the Clinton one too.

Party wasn't that great though. The watching the results come in "party" (if you can call it that) was more fun. 2008 Obama party was the epic one.

What did you hate about 2012 though  :o I know you said 2013 was your favourite.

I have a car. ;D


I've been taking public transportation for almost 30 years.

Electropop never fully died out. There are still electro pop songs today even though it's less popular. In 2012 electropop was still huge then it declined in 2013. It may have been slightly different in the U.S. because they had an election in 2012. But for me 2012 was just another year. I honestly hated 2012, it was the worst year of my life for my personal life.


Ah your junior year of high school must have sucked too  :P same here but that would have been 2013 for me.

I've been taking public transportation for almost 30 years.


I had a car when I was 18/19 but I had to sell it. Too expensive.  :\'( Insurance is like $300/mo here. F that.

I have to wait till I'm 25 for it to come down to something reasonable. Until then, my $130/mo bus pass will suffice.

I've been taking public transportation for almost 30 years.


Not me! Got my car as soon as I could!


I had a car when I was 18/19 but I had to sell it. Too expensive.  :\'( Insurance is like $300/mo here. F that.

I have to wait till I'm 25 for it to come down to something reasonable. Until then, my $130/mo bus pass will suffice.


I'd rather have a car than take public transportation... 8-P

...F*ckin' VTA...

Not me! Got my car as soon as I could!

I'd rather have a car than take public transportation... 8-P

...F*ckin' VTA...


I think I might just use public transport forever. I'd rather save all that money and go on a big vacation every year. Preferably though, it's best to live walking distance to work  ;D

I think I might just use public transport forever. I'd rather save all that money and go on a big vacation every year. Preferably though, it's best to live walking distance to work  ;D


Man, I don't ever wanna take the bus again! It's too crowded and the people smell bad... 8-P

Man, I don't ever wanna take the bus again! It's too crowded and the people smell bad... 8-P


People always say people on the bus are smelly but I never really noticed it, except smokers, or worse, smokers who ate a mint.

People always say people on the bus are smelly but I never really noticed it, except smokers, or worse, smokers who ate a mint.


I've noticed it all the time and if it's not the smell it's dumb teenagers taking up space.

I've noticed it all the time and if it's not the smell it's dumb teenagers taking up space.


Why do you hate teenagers so much  ;D

I agree though, I avoid using the bus between 2:30-4 to avoid the high schoolers. They're very loud and laugh obnoxiously. By themselves they're okay.

Why do you hate teenagers so much  ;D

I agree though, I avoid using the bus between 2:30-4 to avoid the high schoolers. They're very loud and laugh obnoxiously.


Because they always take up space where they shouldn't be. "Yo dogg what it iz smartphone smartphone yo c dem stairs ova heair? hold on my smartphone iz ringing i h8 2 intrupt da convo but i gott cehk my text. yo anyway yo yo letz stand infront of dem stairs n not let outhaz pass cuz we iz self-centrred morans." ::)

And some of them are rude, too. Good thing I'm a lot ruder and don't put up with their bullsh!t. 

Because they always take up space where they shouldn't be. "Yo dogg what it iz smartphone smartphone yo c dem stairs ova heair? hold on my smartphone iz ringing i h8 2 intrupt da convo but i gott cehk my text. yo anyway yo yo letz stand infront of dem stairs n not let outhaz pass cuz we iz self-centrred morans." ::)

And some of them are rude, too. Good thing I'm a lot ruder and don't put up with their bullsh!t.


You're evil lol.

You're evil lol.


What makes you say that? ::)

What makes you say that? ::)


You're a evil one ,Mr. Jordan
You really are a peel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You promote like a shill,
Mr. Jordan!


Sorry I was just watching How the Grinch Stole Christmas.

You're a evil one ,Mr. Jordan
You really are a peel.
You're as cuddly as a cactus,
You promote like a shill,
Mr. Jordan!


Sorry I was just watching How the Grinch Stole Christmas.


As cuddly as a cactus? Tell that to all the sexy women who flirt with me everyday. I am a stud, my friend. A stud. 8)

As cuddly as a cactus? Tell that to all the sexy women who flirt with me everyday. I am a stud, my friend. A stud. 8)


Rrriiiiggghhhhtttt. And I'm Batman!  ::)

Rrriiiiggghhhhtttt. And I'm Batman!  ::)


Faulty comparison, Toon. ;)

Faulty comparison, Toon. ;)


Them fightin' words.  >:(

Them fightin' words.  >:(


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Can't wait until late this year. Whatever happens within a few months will influence on how things will be like within the future.

Can't wait until late this year. Whatever happens within a few months will influence on how things will be like within the future.


You must specifically be talking about the upcoming blink and Sum releases, right?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_V4w18ZWaPas/TKS7DMF-YPI/AAAAAAAAGvQ/MvoXQYL61i8/s1600/Boxing-Fisticuffs-Kensington-Park-Toronto-01.jpg


A fight more epic than DBZ fights.

A fight more epic than DBZ fights.


Indeed, so. 8)

You must specifically be talking about the upcoming blink and Sum releases, right?


The election. Didn't even know that the Blink and Sum releases will have such a great effect.

The election. Didn't even know that the Blink and Sum releases will have such a great effect.


I hope they do and bring Pop Punk back in full force.

Not me! Got my car as soon as I could!

I'd rather have a car than take public transportation... 8-P

...F*ckin' VTA...


Have you ever taken a bus or train? ???

Man, I don't ever wanna take the bus again! It's too crowded and the people smell bad... 8-P


How the hell do you think I feel?  ::)

People always say people on the bus are smelly but I never really noticed it, except smokers, or worse, smokers who ate a mint.


and one bus that I take reeks of weed. 8-P

I've noticed it all the time and if it's not the smell it's dumb teenagers taking up space.


I know how you feel, been there done that! ::)

Because they always take up space where they shouldn't be. "Yo dogg what it iz smartphone smartphone yo c dem stairs ova heair? hold on my smartphone iz ringing i h8 2 intrupt da convo but i gott cehk my text. yo anyway yo yo letz stand infront of dem stairs n not let outhaz pass cuz we iz self-centrred morans." ::)

And some of them are rude, too. Good thing I'm a lot ruder and don't put up with their bullsh!t.


I know just what you mean.  ::)

Have you ever taken a bus or train? ???


Yeah, I take the bus when my car breaks down and my wife is using her's. This rarely happens so I'm often not on the bus.


How the hell do you think I feel?  ::)


I totally get ya', man. Damn kids!


I know how you feel, been there done that! ::)


These teenagers have no manners, huh?


I know just what you mean.  ::)


Yep. I dunno how stupid someone has to be to take up the space in front of the stairs when there's other places to talk. The bench is over there, let people get on with their day. ::)

These teenagers have no manners, huh?

They don't understand etiquette these days, wait for someone to get off before YOU step on. ::)

I have a feeling that the Late 2010's will be the best part of the decade and the 2020's will be a huge improvement over this one.

I hope you're right.

Going to see the movie on Tuesday.

Going to see the movie on Tuesday.


which film?

which film?


Captain America Civil War.

LOL you cant compare the early 2000s teen pop  to  SWING movement that was failed.

Early 2000s will come back trust me.


The early 2000s already came back a little while ago. Everybody on the Internet is already nostalgic for it. I mean, you can look at Buzzfeed and look at all their nostalgia articles. Most of them are based on the early 2000s.

The early 2000s already came back a little while ago. Everybody on the Internet is already nostalgic for it. I mean, you can look at Buzzfeed and look at all their nostalgia articles. Most of them are based on the early 2000s.


They are? I tried to look for some but couldn't find any, except for "Early 2000s teens" stuff that includes 2007 things.

They are? I tried to look for some but couldn't find any, except for "Early 2000s teens" stuff that includes 2007 things.


On Google, it's more specific if you looked up the early 2000s.

Early 2000s nostalgia has been around for 5 years if you count those kids calling it "the 90s" even i it really isn't. That's not the right recognition the early 2000s deserve.

Early 2000s nostalgia has been around for 5 years if you count those kids calling it "the 90s" even i it really isn't. That's not the right recognition the early 2000s deserve.


Well sadly, that's what the early 2000s has for its reputation. Although, I wish the early 2000s wasn't confused with the whole 90s.

Well sadly, that's what the early 2000s has for its reputation. Although, I wish the early 2000s wasn't confused with the whole 90s.

The early 2000s are different than the late 90s. They're separate. I associate the early 2000s with the 2000s decade.

On Google, it's more specific if you looked up the early 2000s.


Yeah, if I search "Early 2000s buzzfeed", I get this article about being an early 2000s teen

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/59-things-youll-only-understand-if-you-were-a-teenager-in-th

And most the stuff is 2002-2007. Like, I can relate to it better than Jordan can LOL.

The early 2000s are different than the late 90s. They're separate. I associate the early 2000s with the 2000s decade.


2000 is the only year from the early 2000's that are related to the late 90's, but 2001-2003 are more related to the 2000's, since those were the years that mainly represented early 2000's culture.

Captain America Civil War.


Hopefully I get to see this epic movie tonight!  :D

I've always dreamed of Iron Man and Captain America getting into a huge fight one day, seeing all the mini arguments and fights they'd get into during the Avengers movies.

Captain America Civil War.
It is on my list to be seen...

...but I have heard something unusual about it.

2000 is the only year from the early 2000's that are related to the late 90's, but 2001-2003 are more related to the 2000's, since those were the years that mainly represented early 2000's culture.


Why are you throwing shade at 2000 again. It's essential to the early 2000s! I won't stand for my favourite 2000s year being bullied like this.

You can't have the early 2000s without NSYNC, Mario Party 2, Pokemon Stadium, Pokemon Cards, Pokemon Gold, Pokemon Rap, Pokemon Movie 2000, and Digimon.

Why are you throwing shade at 2000 again. It's essential to the early 2000s! I won't stand for my favourite 2000s year being bullied like this.


Yes! 2000 is early 00's 100%. 2000, 2001 and 2002 are the essential years. I also just cannot stand for this. Proof? We were listening to New Found Glory's s/t in 2000. 2002 comes around and they release Sticks and Stones and it sounds just like the sequel to that album. 8) 2003 is the not-as-good-but-what-else-ya-got early 00s year. Everything else is the real 00's, which began in 2004. 2000-2002 are their own thing with all their frosted tips and chain wallets. ;)

Hopefully I get to see this epic movie tonight!  :D

I've always dreamed of Iron Man and Captain America getting into a huge fight one day, seeing all the mini arguments and fights they'd get into during the Avengers movies.


I'm just happy to see a Spiderman movie that will actually be good. ;D

I'm just happy to see a Spiderman movie that will actually be good. ;D


>:(

Yes! 2000 is early 00's 100%. 2000, 2001 and 2002 are the essential years. I also just cannot stand for this. Proof? We were listening to New Found Glory's s/t in 2000. 2002 comes around and they release Sticks and Stones and it sounds just like the sequel to that album. 8) 2003 is the not-as-good-but-what-else-ya-got early 00s year. Everything else is the real 00's, which began in 2004. 2000-2002 are their own thing with all their frosted tips and chain wallets. ;)

In my opinion, the early 2000s are "the real 00's". They feel more real 00's that the late 00's which feel more 10's.

In my opinion, the early 2000s are "the real 00's". They feel more real 00's that the late 00's which feel more 10's.


I disagree. I think the late 00s feel more like the real 00s. The early 00s don't even feel like 00's years.

In my opinion, the early 2000s are "the real 00's". They feel more real 00's that the late 00's which feel more 10's.


I have to say Slim, I can actually get by this real easy. Glad you're not the only one who wishes people would focus more on the early & mid 2000's when it comes to 2000's culture. So many people focus on the second half of the 2000's only and forget what happened throughout the earlier half.

I have to say Slim, I can actually get by this real easy. Glad you're not the only one who wishes people would focus more on the early & mid 2000's when it comes to 2000's culture. So many people focus on the second half of the 2000's only and forget what happened throughout the earlier half.

Yeah exactly! The first half was the best part of the decade, I really wish more people focused on it.

I disagree. I think the late 00s feel more like the real 00s. The early 00s don't even feel like 00's years.

We're complete opposites then.  ;D

I disagree. I think the late 00s feel more like the real 00s. The early 00s don't even feel like 00's years.

late 2001-2003 feel like 2000s years to me.... Bush being in office 6th, gen gaming, Yu gi oh, reality tv being popular, LOTR, Harry Potter, etc.

I have to say Slim, I can actually get by this real easy. Glad you're not the only one who wishes people would focus more on the early & mid 2000's when it comes to 2000's culture. So many people focus on the second half of the 2000's only and forget what happened throughout the earlier half.

Yup they mainly focus on late 2006-2009, and when people say ''00s kid'' they'll ALWAYS gonna bring up these years, which annoys and SICKENS me! >:( >:( >:(

Yup they mainly focus on late 2006-2009, and when people say ''00s kid'' they'll ALWAYS gonna bring up these years, which annoys and SICKENS me! >:( >:( >:(

Yes! It's like people forget the 2000s existed. I once saw this YouTube video called "90s kids vs. 2000s kids" and they were talking about so many 10's things like smartphones, tablets, Drake, "YOLO", etc. It got me so mad. Then the early 2000s kids call it the 90s. The mid 00's are then completely forgotten. It's sad how the decade I grew up in doesn't get any real recognition and people act like it never existed.

Yes! It's like people forget the 2000s existed. I once saw this YouTube video called "90s kids vs. 2000s kids" and they were talking about so many 10's things like smartphones, tablets, "swag", etc. It got me so mad. Then the early 2000s kids call it the 90s. The mid 00's are then completely forgotten. It's sad how the decade I grew up in doesn't get any real recognition and people act like it never existed.

It's cause the decade we grew up in lacked a STRONG identity, it's like there were 3 2000s. ;D

Yes! It's like people forget the 2000s existed. I once saw this YouTube video called "90s kids vs. 2000s kids" and they were talking about so many 10's things like smartphones, tablets, Drake, "YOLO", etc. It got me so mad. Then the early 2000s kids call it the 90s. The mid 00's are then completely forgotten. It's sad how the decade I grew up in doesn't get any real recognition and people act like it never existed.


2000s seem to be nothing more than an extension of other decades to people. Early 2000s is just a faux-'90s. And late '00s is just the '10s before 2010. I usually prefer to see the 2000s (2000-2009) separately. I'll mention how the culture was a bit similar to the 1990s or 2010s, but I like to see 2000-2004 as early '00s and not late '90s and 2006-2009 as late '00s and not early '10s.

Also when people talk about '90s kids vs '00s it can be funny when they mention things like Smartphones or Social Media. These things didn't get really popular until the '10s, but I guess they see the late '00s and the '10s as the same thing.

I'm glad I'm an early 2000s kid and a late 2000s teen, and that people forget the mid-2000s because I want to forget them too :P

Nah jk. I see what you guys mean. Everything pre-2006 is called "Early 2000s" like its not the real 2000s yet.

In my opinion, the early 2000s are "the real 00's". They feel more real 00's that the late 00's which feel more 10's.


I'll rather say the core 2000s, since saying the real 2000s doesn't make that much sense.

It's cause the decade we grew up in lacked a STRONG identity, it's like there were 3 2000s. ;D


Well to be fair, the mid 2000s were like the early 2000s. They both had similar things pop-culture wise.

I'm glad I'm an early 2000s kid and a late 2000s teen, and that people forget the mid-2000s because I want to forget them too :P

Nah jk. I see what you guys mean. Everything pre-2006 is called "Early 2000s" like its not the real 2000s yet.


Saying real '00s can be hard for most people. As the first half can't be real '00s since it's just a late '90s extension. And the second can't be real '00s if it's basically an early extension to the early '10s. This logic is really annoying. I mainly see this type of logic on Youtube sections and maybe Buzzfeed. Not anywhere else thankfully.

Saying real '00s can be hard for most people. As the first half can't be real '00s since it's just a late '90s extension. And the second can't be real '00s if it's basically an early extension to the early '10s. This logic can really annoying. I mainly see this type of logic on Youtube sections and maybe Buzzfeed. Not anywhere else thankfully.

2000- most of 2001 can only be seen as an extension of the VERY late 90s. Late 2001-2003 were similar to the very late 90s, but those years we're definitely 00s years.

To me 2000-2003 are similar to the late 1990s, but can be seen as actual 2000s years. But this is just me.

2000- most of 2001 can only be seen as an extension of the VERY late 90s. Late 2001-2003 were similar to the very late 90s, but those years we're definitely 00s years.

Even 2000 and 2001 are part of the 00's. 1999 also had some 00's culture. despite being a 90s year. I lump the Y2K era with the 00's, not the 90s.

Even 2000 and 2001 are part of the 00's. 1999 also had some 00's culture. despite being a 90s year. I lump the Y2K era with the 00's, not the 90s. I don't want the 90s to be associated with the 00's at all.


Considering how Y2K = 2000 it makes sense to associate it with the 2000s. But in all honesty I don't even bother with the Y2K era name anymore. It's not an officially defined era and it can get very opinionated as everyone is giving different spans on they think it begins or ends. I just say late 1990s/early 2000s as you can't really argue on what is late 1990s/early 2000s (numerically/culturally) and what isn't. But hey this is just me. Each his own.

Kind of wondering what early 10's pop cultural things will still be around by the time we reach 2019. Would be very surprised if this decade was consistent all the way through. Wonder if the 2020s will be the same as well.

Kind of wondering what early 10's pop cultural things will still be around by the time we reach 2019. Would be very surprised if this decade was consistent all the way through. Wonder if the 2020s will be the same as well.

I do have a feeling it will be more consistent. At least more than the 00's. So far the changes have been very steady and more gradual in the 10's.

Even 2000 and 2001 are part of the 00's. 1999 also had some 00's culture. despite being a 90s year. I lump the Y2K era with the 00's, not the 90s.


Yeah, I see it that way as well. 1998/1999 are "early 2000s expansion pack" years to me  ;D

Here's some great pop culture we have right now!!!!

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I have no idea what's going on in that video but it looks super cool  :o

Here's some great pop culture we have right now!!!!

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All that 2010s enjoyment wrapped in a 1 minute video.

I have no idea what's going on in that video but it looks super cool  :o


FXX channel is underrated, and awesome! I was watching Archer on there last night and marathons of action & comedy movies always come on the channel everyday. It even shows Simpsons reruns 5 times a week as well. I'm enjoying everything this channel offers while it lasts. Of course, it's a sister channel to FX duh.

http://www.fxnetworks.com/schedule/2016-05-08/Eastern?

FXX channel is underrated, and awesome! I was watching Archer on there last night and marathons of action & comedy movies always come on the channel everyday. It even shows Simpsons reruns 5 times a week as well. I'm enjoying everything this channel offers while it lasts. Of course, it's a sister channel to FX duh.

http://www.fxnetworks.com/schedule/2016-05-08/Eastern?


Aren't most of these available on Netflix? You should definitely How I Met Your Mother. That show is one of my 2000s favourites!  :D

Aren't most of these available on Netflix? You should definitely How I Met Your Mother. That show is one of my 2000s favourites!  :D


True, maybe for How I Met Your Mother, but not the movies or other shows from what I know of, and you're looking at the FX channel section. I'm specifically talking about "FXX" or "F double X" which is in the middle of the page. It's a badass channel. Just look through schedule throughout the week. However, FX itself has some badass movies too. I'd just switch around from both FX and FXX then you'll be set up right there.

True, maybe for How I Met Your Mother, but not the movies or other shows from what I know of, and you're looking at the FX channel section. I'm specifically talking about "FXX" or "F double X" which is in the middle of the page. It's a badass channel. Just look through schedule throughout the week. However, FX itself has some badass movies too. I'd just switch around from both FX and FXX then you'll be set up right there.


Damn, i didn't see that, those are pretty badass. Are you going to watch Puss In Boots tho?  ;D

Damn, i didn't see that, those are pretty badass. Are you going to watch Puss In Boots tho?  ;D


lol naww bruh, I saw that on the schedule too. I'm about to see Captain America Civil War in less than T-minus 2 hours  :o

lol naww bruh, I saw that on the schedule too. I'm about to see Captain America Civil War in less than T-minus 2 hours  :o


Don't spoil it!  ;D

late 2001-2003 feel like 2000s years to me.... Bush being in office 6th, gen gaming, Yu gi oh, reality tv being popular, LOTR, Harry Potter, etc.


6th gaming and reality TV was there in 2000. I bought the PS2 at launch. ;) Everything else still felt like things of the late 90s to me. LOTR and the first Harry Potter movies felt a lot different than the real 00s films.


We're complete opposites then.  ;D


I guess so. ;D


To me 2000-2003 are similar to the late 1990s, but can be seen as actual 2000s years. But this is just me.


Yeah, I see it that way as well. 1998/1999 are "early 2000s expansion pack" years to me  ;D


Toon, Slowpoke, I like you guys. You both keep saying stuff like this and you both might become some of my top favorite posters. I am glad more people are speaking the honest truth. 8)

6th gaming and reality TV was there in 2000. I bought the PS2 at launch. ;) Everything else still felt like things of the late 90s to me. LOTR and the first Harry Potter movies felt a lot different than the real 00s films.

I guess so. ;D

Toon, Slowpoke, I like you guys. You both keep saying stuff like this and you both might become some of my top favorite posters. I am glad more people are speaking the honest truth. 8)

So you forgive me for the things I said about Spiderman?  ;D

So you forgive me for the things I said about Spiderman?  ;D


You keep this up then yes. ;)

Also, All Killer No Filler > Chuck.

You keep this up then yes. ;)

Also, All Killer No Filler > Chuck.


I like them both. But I was thinking about this, and to me, Does This Look Infected? sounds way closer to Chuck than All Killer No Filler. (especially The Hell Song, Over My Head, and Still Waiting). That's probably why I didn't think Chuck was such a massive departure for Sum 41.

I like them both. But I was thinking about this, and to me, Does This Look Infected? sounds way closer to Chuck than All Killer No Filler. (especially The Hell Song, Over My Head, and Still Waiting). That's probably why I didn't think Chuck was such a massive departure for Sum 41.


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I... I... I don't know what to say. I listen to Half Hour/AKNF/DTLI back to back every time and, to me, it's so much closer to All Killer than it is too Chuck! Chuck sounds like lame Nu Metal meets My Chemical Romance whereas DTLI is Pop Punk with rapping and minor key metal riffs with songs that are either similar to Green Day, The Offspring and especially Strung Out. DTLF was all bang, bang, bang, no bullsh!t. The album didn't slow down until the very end of Hooch. The whole thing is speedy and in your face. Chuck takes it's time and only speeds up on a couple of songs. It's not even a Pop Punk album.

Ignoring the intro, Chuck doesn't really get slow until Slipping Away, and in the end with 88, and I love those songs no matter how slow they are :P

Ignoring the intro, Chuck doesn't really get slow until Slipping Away, and in the end with 88, and I love those songs no matter how slow they are :P


Some Say is the 5th song on the album and it's super slow. Chuck isn't very fast all the way through. Aside from the bootleg version of Metallica's Battery, it's lame mid paced Nu Metal meets mid 00s rock. You should listen to Strung Out's Twisted by Design if you want something to compare DTLF to. ;) It's also still predominately a Pop Punk album and much, much closer to AKNF with it's snotty in your face vibe and rapping. You see, they still had spiky hair when that album came out. This is before Deryck dated Paris Hilton. After Paris Hilton, he wore his hair down and started playing all slow and crap. Pieces? Come on, give me a break.

Kind of wondering what early 10's pop cultural things will still be around by the time we reach 2019. Would be very surprised if this decade was consistent all the way through. Wonder if the 2020s will be the same as well.


Yeah, I remember around 2013/2014ish, I thought that late 2010s would be very different. Kind of like how late 90s culture was very different from 1993/1994. But now that it's 2016, I have my doubts. I think the late 2010s will be different from the mid 2010s, to a certain extent, but it will still have things that tie to the previous parts of the decade.

In that regard, the 2010s are transitioning more like the 80s. The 80s were a pretty consistent decade. Sure, the early, mid, and late portions were fairly distinguishable, but they all felt apart of the same decade. And even then, those years still had stuff that tied to the other parts of the decade. I think it will be the same with the 2010s.

When we reach late 2018/2019, we may see some newer trends emerge, though they probably will become more significant in the early 2020s. Kind of like how New Jack Swing was introduced in the late 80s, but truly peaked around the early 90s. I hope 2021 will be like the new 1991, in which we will see a huge shift in pop culture. And I really hope whatever shift occurs in the 2020s, will greatly improve pop culture.

I don't mean any disrespect towards anyone who likes the 2010s, but I hope the 2020s reaches out to to many different types of people, so that there's something for everyone.

Some Say is the 5th song on the album and it's super slow. Chuck isn't very fast all the way through. Aside from the bootleg version of Metallica's Battery, it's lame mid paced Nu Metal meets mid 00s rock. You should listen to Strung Out's Twisted by Design if you want something to compare DTLF to. ;) It's also still predominately a Pop Punk album and much, much closer to AKNF with it's snotty in your face vibe and rapping. You see, they still had spiky hair when that album came out. This is before Deryck dated Paris Hilton. After Paris Hilton, he wore his hair down and started playing all slow and crap. Pieces? Come on, give me a break.


Some Say isn't really slow, it's more medium :P I legit can't hate Pieces despite its pace. Too many good memories with that song  ;D

Some Say isn't really slow, it's more medium :P I legit can't hate Pieces despite its pace. Too many good memories with that song  ;D


It's still slow compared to every song off of DTLF which retains their AKNF Pop Punk sound while taking ques from Strung Out with a good amount of Green Day and The Offspring than Chuck which is what happens when you listen to Linkin Park but you also happen to enjoy a bit of My Chemical Romance. :P Pieces is super lame. All he does is whine and whine. On AKNF and DTLF he wasn't whining about anything. There were songs about f*cking around like All Messed Up and Heart Attack. Even Hooch they sing about not wanting to be a part of the "in crowd" like they did on Fat Lip. DTFL is basically the sequel to AKNF, man. 8)

6th gaming and reality TV was there in 2000. I bought the PS2 at launch. ;) Everything else still felt like things of the late 90s to me. LOTR and the first Harry Potter movies felt a lot different than the real 00s films.

I guess so. ;D

Toon, Slowpoke, I like you guys. You both keep saying stuff like this and you both might become some of my top favorite posters. I am glad more people are speaking the honest truth. 8)


They actually started filming the LOTR trilogy (which was all filmed back to back) around late 1999.  I think the first Harry Potter movie was filmed sometime between late 2000/early 2001. But yeah, they definitely feel more retro.

They actually started filming the LOTR trilogy (which was all filmed back to back) around late 1999.  I think the first Harry Potter movie was filmed sometime between late 2000/early 2001. But yeah, they definitely feel more retro.


Back in 1999, huh? Wow! I thought it was a bit later than that! I'd say all the LOTR movies and the first two (maybe even the third one) Harry Potter movies feel pretty old and not very 00's like.

Back in 1999, huh? Wow! I thought it was a bit later than that! I'd say all the LOTR movies and the first two (maybe even the third one) Harry Potter movies feel pretty old and not very 00's like.


Yep, though they completed filming around 2003. It's kind of funny. Looking at the first two Harry Potter movies, they feel like their from a completely different era from the later movies. Even when they are compared to the third movie. Though this could also be contributed to the change in directors. Chris Columbus, who was the same guy who directed the first two Home Alone movies, also directed the first two Harry Potter movies.

Yep, though they completed filming around 2003. It's kind of funny. Looking at the first two Harry Potter movies, they feel like their from a completely different era from the later movies. Even when they are compared to the third movie. Though this could also be contributed to the change in directors. Chris Columbus, who was the same guy who directed the first two Home Alone movies, also directed the first two Harry Potter movies.


Haha, I shouldn't be surprised. Those movies are long! My attention span can't handle it! Even though it finished filming in 2003, the last one also feels pretty old. That makes sense with the change of directors but even the way it's filmed and the promotional pictures of the first two look super old compared to all the other movies. Hell, they're also the only Harry Potter movies to have an accompanying PS1 game! ;D

It's still slow compared to every song off of DTLF which retains their AKNF Pop Punk sound while taking ques from Strung Out with a good amount of Green Day and The Offspring than Chuck which is what happens when you listen to Linkin Park but you also happen to enjoy a bit of My Chemical Romance. :P Pieces is super lame. All he does is whine and whine. On AKNF and DTLF he wasn't whining about anything. There were songs about f*cking around like All Messed Up and Heart Attack. Even Hooch they sing about not wanting to be a part of the "in crowd" like they did on Fat Lip. DTFL is basically the sequel to AKNF, man. 8)


Well, ignoring pace, I still feel like a lot of songs off DTLI could've been on Chuck. Lyrically, pace-wise, style-wise, they sound like a lot of songs off Chuck, even if Chuck has a few songs that are slow here and there. If they put a song like Over My Head or Still Waiting in Chuck instead of DTLI, I don't think anyone would even notice :P

Well, ignoring pace, I still feel like a lot of songs off DTLI could've been on Chuck. Lyrically, pace-wise, style-wise, they sound like a lot of songs off Chuck, even if Chuck has a few songs that are slow here and there. If they put a song like Over My Head or Still Waiting in Chuck instead of DTLI, I don't think anyone would even notice :P


You do? Most of the lyrics are about the same things as the first one except just a bit more serious with songs like Hell Song, Still Waiting and Billy Spleen and even though they're serious, the songs are still snotty and loud (think Thanks For Nothing. That songs your standard rebellious Pop Punk song right there) unlike Chuck which tries to hard and tones it down. Even the faster songs off of Chuck aren't straight to the point like DTLF is. To me, Over My Head sounds too much like a Pop Punk song written in a minor key. If you take a couple of notes and moved them up a semi-tone, it'd sound like a song off of AKNF. Still Waiting also sounds like a Strung Out/Offspring hybrid with the chorus being metallic like a Twisted by Design song but the verses being of that Offspring-steal-from-Bad-Religion style. The songs off DTLF are too fast, no bullsh!t and take too much from Epi-fat skate bands to be on the same album as Chuck. I am listening to Chuck right now (ew) and I could not fit any DTLF songs on it because of how straight radio rock it tries to be. :P :P :P

Over My Head sounds about as upbeat as Open Your Eyes in Chuck, which is not much ;D I don't know about the minor key stuff, but I can't imagine those who like DTLI are going too different from those who like Chuck, just going by the lyrics. Most the songs are loud teen-angst rock songs with attitude.

Over My Head sounds about as upbeat as Open Your Eyes in Chuck, which is not much ;D I don't know about the minor key stuff, but I can't imagine those who like DTLI are going too different from those who like Chuck, just going by the lyrics. Most the songs are loud teen-angst rock songs with attitude.


Over My Head sounds a lot more than upbeat than that. :P Like, really, the riffs and song writing of Over My Head is straight up Pop Punk set in a minor key. It's like they wrote a Pop Punk song that sounded like AKNF and put it in a minor key to make it a bit heavier. Actually, yeah, there are a lot of people who don't like anything Chuck onward and will say AKFN and DTLF are the only good ones. ;) But DTLF only has one political song, most of the songs are about drinking too much, being paranoid and telling off your parents. Chuck is all about how much of a big mean man George Dubya is. ;D Just listening to Chuck, it tries to hard to add different slow parts in the songs. The songwriting is pretty different and even Deryck's vocals sound rougher than they do on the previous records. :P :P :P

"Heated" debates about Sum 41 are the best. :D

Over My Head sounds a lot more than upbeat than that. :P Like, really, the riffs and song writing of Over My Head is straight up Pop Punk set in a minor key. It's like they wrote a Pop Punk song that sounded like AKNF and put it in a minor key to make it a bit heavier. Actually, yeah, there are a lot of people who don't like anything Chuck onward and will say AKFN and DTLF are the only good ones. ;) But DTLF only has one political song, most of the songs are about drinking too much, being paranoid and telling off your parents. Chuck is all about how much of a big mean man George Dubya is. ;D Just listening to Chuck, it tries to hard to add different slow parts in the songs. The songwriting is pretty different and even Deryck's vocals sound rougher than they do on the previous records. :P :P :P

"Heated" debates about Sum 41 are the best. :D


It doesn't sound upbeat at all, it talks about dying!  ;D I mean, it gets me pumped but so do a lot of the Chuck songs. The tone of DTLI is a lot more serious than AKNF to me. The songs in AKNF seem to be more about day to day life and girls, while DTLI has a lot of those sad/attitude songs. I agree with you about Chuck being filled with political songs though, that does make it a product of 2004. Still, though, the tone of the album is only slightly more sad compared to DTLI. I'd be surprised anyone who got into Sum 41 in the DTLI era could hate Chuck. I mean, with AKNF or HHoP I could understand, and if you thought DTLI was their one off "dark, mature" album but instead realize their direction has changed forever, but with DTLI, I just can't see it.  ;D

Yeah! Sum 41 is awesome!  :D

including their mid 2000s stuff :P

It doesn't sound upbeat at all, it talks about dying!  ;D I mean, it gets me pumped but so do a lot of the Chuck songs. The tone of DTLI is a lot more serious than AKNF to me. The songs in AKNF seem to be more about day to day life and girls, while DTLI has a lot of those sad/attitude songs. I agree with you about Chuck being filled with political songs though, that does make it a product of 2004. Still, though, the tone of the album is only slightly more sad compared to DTLI. I'd be surprised anyone who got into Sum 41 in the DTLI era could hate Chuck. I mean, with AKNF or HHoP I could understand, and if you thought DTLI was their one off "dark, mature" album but instead realize their direction has changed forever, but with DTLI, I just can't see it.  ;D

Yeah! Sum 41 is awesome!  :D

including their mid 2000s stuff :P


It's about being hungover, though. ;D DTLI has a lot of attitude but it's not really sad, it's more angry and snotty. It's a bit more serious than AKNF but it's not that big of a change, at least to me, because even though some of the focus is on serious topics, it still goes out of it's way to be snotty and loud. There aren't any songs about girls (wait there is! A.N.I.C.! :D) but there are tons of songs about day to day life, not fitting in and hating your parents. Standard Pop Punk topics! :D I dunno, I just listened to Chuck and I'm now listening to DTLI and DTLI feels much more like a Pop Punk album that takes heavily from The Offspring, Green Day and Strung Out. Chuck tries to be too hard to be radio-Metal (if you ask me, it's sound is a lot closer to Underclass Hero ;)) whereas DTLI retains the Pop Punk and adds a heavy sound to it. Really! A lot of people. I remember this site I was on posted news about the 10th anniversary DTLI shows and everyone said "This is the last Sum 41 album I liked." A lot of people even say "AFNK and DTLI are tied for their best." I got into them before Half Hour came out and I of course think DTLI is the last good one. :P :D

You know, Chuck isn't really a terrible, terrible album. It's just not good. Underclass Hero, however, terrible. 8-P Half Hour to Infected are their best. ;)

Back in 1999, huh? Wow! I thought it was a bit later than that! I'd say all the LOTR movies and the first two (maybe even the third one) Harry Potter movies feel pretty old and not very 00's like.

The 00's are old now though.

It's about being hungover, though. ;D DTLI has a lot of attitude but it's not really sad, it's more angry and snotty. It's a bit more serious than AKNF but it's not that big of a change, at least to me, because even though some of the focus is on serious topics, it still goes out of it's way to be snotty and loud. There aren't any songs about girls (wait there is! A.N.I.C.! :D) but there are tons of songs about day to day life, not fitting in and hating your parents. Standard Pop Punk topics! :D I dunno, I just listened to Chuck and I'm now listening to DTLI and DTLI feels much more like a Pop Punk album that takes heavily from The Offspring, Green Day and Strung Out. Chuck tries to be too hard to be radio-Metal (if you ask me, it's sound is a lot closer to Underclass Hero ;)) whereas DTLI retains the Pop Punk and adds a heavy sound to it. Really! A lot of people. I remember this site I was on posted news about the 10th anniversary DTLI shows and everyone said "This is the last Sum 41 album I liked." A lot of people even say "AFNK and DTLI are tied for their best." I got into them before Half Hour came out and I of course think DTLI is the last good one. :P :D

You know, Chuck isn't really a terrible, terrible album. It's just not good. Underclass Hero, however, terrible. 8-P Half Hour to Infected are their best. ;)


It is? I thought it was about being useless LOL I can see what you mean by Chuck being more of a radio metal song and DTLI being a pop punk song, I can agree with that. Chuck is a bit louder (vocally) than their previous stuff. I still think the "tone" of DTLI and Chuck are not all the different though. If I imagine the type of people that would listen to each album, I'd imagine they'd be the same kind of people, teenagers with attitude problems haha  ;D

What did they say for the 10th anniversary of Chuck?

I haven't listened to Underclass Hero  :( After Deryck got married to Avril, even though it was a match made in heaven to me, both of them just dropped off the map for me  ;D

The 00's are old now though.


Well, it's not like people would think the 2000s are really old. Especially Jordan, since he only likes 2000-2002.

Back in 1999, huh? Wow! I thought it was a bit later than that! I'd say all the LOTR movies and the first two (maybe even the third one) Harry Potter movies feel pretty old and not very 00's like.

The LOTR trilogy felt 00s to me..... it felt nothing like the late 90s blockbusters.

6th gaming and reality TV was there in 2000. I bought the PS2 at launch. ;) Everything else still felt like things of the late 90s to me. LOTR and the first Harry Potter movies felt a lot different than the real 00s films.

I guess so. ;D

Toon, Slowpoke, I like you guys. You both keep saying stuff like this and you both might become some of my top favorite posters. I am glad more people are speaking the honest truth. 8)




2000 and the first half of 2001 was still mainly 5th gen...

6th gaming and reality TV was there in 2000. I bought the PS2 at launch. ;) Everything else still felt like things of the late 90s to me.

So...Bush being in office and 9/11,still felt late 90s to you? ??? come on man....

It is? I thought it was about being useless LOL I can see what you mean by Chuck being more of a radio metal song and DTLI being a pop punk song, I can agree with that. Chuck is a bit louder (vocally) than their previous stuff. I still think the "tone" of DTLI and Chuck are not all the different though. If I imagine the type of people that would listen to each album, I'd imagine they'd be the same kind of people, teenagers with attitude problems haha  ;D

What did they say for the 10th anniversary of Chuck?

I haven't listened to Underclass Hero  :( After Deryck got married to Avril, even though it was a match made in heaven to me, both of them just dropped off the map for me  ;D


Haha, I could see it being about that but nah, it's about drinking too much and being hungover. The tone of Chuck is too political for me to think of them as the same. DTLF still sounds like it was written by a bunch of slackers. Though, teenagers with attitude problems definitely listened to AKNF, too. When I think of the kids who'd listen to Chuck, I think of lame mid 00s faux-Emo MySpace kids. :P

Nothing because there was no article about it since they didn't do a 10th anniversary tour for Chuck.

Good. That album is awful! You've spared yourself a terrible listen.


The LOTR trilogy felt 00s to me..... it felt nothing like the late 90s blockbusters.


Doesn't feel very 00s to me. Feels more of the early 00s than the real 00s.


2000 and the first half of 2001 was still mainly 5th gen...


2000 was both but 2001 wasn't mainly 5th since the N64 pretty much dropped off the map after Christmas 2000. Still, the 5th gen truly concludes in 2003.


So...Bush being in office and 9/11,still felt late 90s to you? ??? come on man....


I didn't care about those things and continued doing what I was doing. Despite those events, things still felt the same to me.

Doesn't feel very 00s to me. Feels more of the early 00s than the real 00s.


How many times do I have to say it. The early 00's are the real 00's. LOTR feels very 00's to me.

How many times do I have to say it. The early 00's are the real 00's. LOTR feels very 00's to me.


Say it 'til your face turns blue. Won't change my mind.

How many times do I have to say it. The early 00's are the real 00's. LOTR feels very 00's to me.

early 00s weren't core tho.....

Doesn't feel very 00s to me. Feels more of the early 00s than the real 00s.

2000 was both but 2001 wasn't mainly 5th since the N64 pretty much dropped off the map after Christmas 2000. Still, the 5th gen truly concludes in 2003.

I didn't care about those things and continued doing what I was doing. Despite those events, things still felt the same to me.

Give me some examples on how LOTR doesn't feel 00s to you...


and no, 2000 wasn't both; PS2 didn't peak until latter part of 2001. 2001 was both 5th and 6th.... not everyone gets consoles at launch. Only time I did was Christmas of 2013 when I got PS4 and october 2001 when I got GBA.


and lastly your views on that are very subjective. ;) ;D

Give me some examples on how LOTR doesn't feel 00s to you...


and no, 2000 wasn't both; PS2 didn't peak until latter part of 2001. 2001 was both 5th and 6th....


and lastly your views on that are very subjective. ;) ;D


The movies were big things in the early 00s so when I think of the LOTR trilogy, I don't think of the real 00s. They're pretty unique because there aren't too many 20 hour long fantasy movies. 

Yes it was. The Dreamcast was already out and the PS2 came out in 2000 and broke sales records at launch. 2000 definitely was both.

Most things are. ;)

The movies were big things in the early 00s so when I think of the LOTR trilogy, I don't think of the real 00s. They're pretty unique because there aren't too many 20 hour long fantasy movies. 

Yes it was. The Dreamcast was already out and the PS2 came out in 2000 and broke sales records at launch. 2000 definitely was both.

Most things are. ;)


6th generation gaming wasn't in full effect until the 2001-2002 season, and like Eric said, not everybody gets video games and consoles right at the launch. A generation of the video game industry doesn't start until all of the consoles and handhelds for that generation are released. Saying that 2000 was a 6th generation year is like saying 2004 & 2005 were 7th generation years because of the Nintendo DS and XBOX 360, when there were no where near enough games released for the consoles yet at the time for it to fully establish its culture. Sorry Jordan, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one.

The movies were big things in the early 00s so when I think of the LOTR trilogy, I don't think of the real 00s. They're pretty unique because there aren't too many 20 hour long fantasy movies.


But they still defined the 2000s movie-wise. Even after 2003, people would still go and watch Lord of the Rings excessively until 2007 or something like that.

Yes it was. The Dreamcast was already out and the PS2 came out in 2000 and broke sales records at launch. 2000 definitely was both.


But that doesn't mean the 6th generation was on gear in 2000. I would say the 2001, since that was when the Gamecube and Xbox was released. All of those consoles were still available at the time.

6th generation gaming wasn't in full effect until the 2001-2002 season, and like Eric said, not everybody gets video games and consoles right at the launch. A generation of the video game industry doesn't start until all of the consoles and handhelds for that generation are released. Saying that 2000 was a 6th generation year is like saying 2004 & 2005 were 7th generation years because of the Nintendo DS and XBOX 360, when there were no where near enough games released for the consoles yet at the time for it to fully establish its culture. Sorry Jordan, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one.


Yes, it was fully established by late 2001 but that doesn't mean 2000 isn't of the 6th generation era. There isn't a hard-set rule to this but I'd say a video game generation begins when the first console of that generation is released, not when all the consoles are released. That's just when the full establishment of the generation starts. 2004 is iffy 'cause it's a handheld but 2005 is definitely the start of something new with the 360.


But they still defined the 2000s movie-wise. Even after 2003, people would still go and watch Lord of the Rings excessively until 2007 or something like that.


Based off what? ??? People still watch LOTR today. The Hobbit came out this decade, too, so clearly the franchise is still very successful.


But that doesn't mean the 6th generation was on gear in 2000. I would say the 2001, since that was when the Gamecube and Xbox was released. All of those consoles were still available at the time.


It had already begun and people were buying the 6th generation consoles. The PS2 was a big thing during the 2000 Christmas holiday season.

Haha, I could see it being about that but nah, it's about drinking too much and being hungover. The tone of Chuck is too political for me to think of them as the same. DTLF still sounds like it was written by a bunch of slackers. Though, teenagers with attitude problems definitely listened to AKNF, too. When I think of the kids who'd listen to Chuck, I think of lame mid 00s faux-Emo MySpace kids. :P

Nothing because there was no article about it since they didn't do a 10th anniversary tour for Chuck.

Good. That album is awful! You've spared yourself a terrible listen.

Doesn't feel very 00s to me. Feels more of the early 00s than the real 00s.

2000 was both but 2001 wasn't mainly 5th since the N64 pretty much dropped off the map after Christmas 2000. Still, the 5th gen truly concludes in 2003.

I didn't care about those things and continued doing what I was doing. Despite those events, things still felt the same to me.


Wait, if the song is about alcohol then that's even worse than general moping  :o especially with Deryck's alcohol problem. Although I guess it wasn't well known back then.

They're a Canadian band! No Myspace here, MSN was king until 2010!  :P I remember I used to have some of the lyrics as MSN status messages from time to time  ;D

LOTR is the first movie I remember watching on DVD. It was at my uncle's house (the Costanza one), and he was a huge LOTR fan and tried to get me to watch it. I fell asleep halfway in the middle. He kept waking me up even though I lost the plot 15 minutes in. I feel like I should read the books first before watching it. I could tolerate a long book, but long movies, oh they better be interesting from the get go.

It had already begun and people were buying the 6th generation consoles. The PS2 was a big thing during the 2000 Christmas holiday season.


But that doesn't mean the PS2 was in its time during 2000. People would usually play their PS2s during late 2000-early 2013.

Wait, if the song is about alcohol then that's even worse than general moping  :o especially with Deryck's alcohol problem. Although I guess it wasn't well known back then.

They're a Canadian band! No Myspace here, MSN was king until 2010!  :P I remember I used to have some of the lyrics as MSN status messages from time to time  ;D

LOTR is the first movie I remember watching on DVD. It was at my uncle's house (the Costanza one), and he was a huge LOTR fan and tried to get me to watch it. I fell asleep halfway in the middle. He kept waking me up even though I lost the plot 15 minutes in. I feel like I should read the books first before watching it. I could tolerate a long book, but long movies, oh they better be interesting from the get go.


It's about partying too much, dude. :P You know Machine Gun? Same topic! Deryck didn't have an alcohol problem back then, that happened after his divorce.

You guys totally did have MySpace! I saw a ton of Canadian profiles on the site back then! MSN was pretty big in the US but AIM was king.

Haha... The Costanza one... ;D Oh man, I cannot sit through those movies in one go. I get too anxious and have to move around. It's taken me a week to finish them fully each... I agree, they need to be interesting right away or else I'm gonna lose focus.

The movies were big things in the early 00s so when I think of the LOTR trilogy, I don't think of the real 00s. They're pretty unique because there aren't too many 20 hour long fantasy movies. 

Yes it was. The Dreamcast was already out and the PS2 came out in 2000 and broke sales records at launch. 2000 definitely was both.

Most things are. ;)

Dreamcast made no impact, and the PS2 hardly had games at launch, but it did break sales though... So gaming wise it WAS still 5th gen year!!!

But that doesn't mean the PS2 was in its time during 2000. People would usually play their PS2s during late 2000-early 2013.

You mean late 2001.

You mean late 2001.


Well, the Playstation 2 was released during October 2000 in North America. Hell, there was a lot of people going out to buy the thing on the release date. So, it's possible to say that the PS2 was popular in its release season.

It's about partying too much, dude. :P You know Machine Gun? Same topic! Deryck didn't have an alcohol problem back then, that happened after his divorce.

You guys totally did have MySpace! I saw a ton of Canadian profiles on the site back then! MSN was pretty big in the US but AIM was king.

Haha... The Costanza one... ;D Oh man, I cannot sit through those movies in one go. I get too anxious and have to move around. It's taken me a week to finish them fully each... I agree, they need to be interesting right away or else I'm gonna lose focus.


Are we talking about the same song? I'm talking about Over My Head, Better Off Dead. The lyrics are actually way more depressing than I initially thought. Reading it, it's very dark  :o

Kids had it, but it wasn't as huge in the US thankfully. I think 40-50% of kids had it at its peak in 2006. By 2007, Facebook overtook it. Even with Facebook though, only 75-80% of kids ever had it by the time I graduated in 2010. My circle of nerdy friends especially hated it, they thought it was for socialite plebeians and refused to make an account. I LMAO'd when throughout 2012-Present, a lot of them are making Facebook accounts. MSN though... That was Queen throughout, 1999-2010. Everyone had it, even the nerds, 100% adoption. Even now, when I ask people for their emails, I notice younger people usually give their Gmail, while older people give their MSN  ;D

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Especially when I go to the theatres I find myself wishing they had commercial breaks or something LOL

Well, the Playstation 2 was released during October 2000 in North America. Hell, there was a lot of people going out to buy the thing on the release date. So, it's possible to say that the PS2 was popular in its release season.


The PS2 hype was huge and a lot of people got it day one, I remember that. PS2 was backwards compatible, so it was easy to sell your PS1 so you can afford a PS2. But culturally, N64 was still huge in early 2001 when Pokémon Stadium 2 came out. That game had massive hype and sales in my neighbourhood. I remember daydreaming in class thinking about how epic the game was going to be  ;D Other notable releases were Mario Party 3, Paper Mario 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day.

By 2002, I'd say we were in pure (or close to pure) 6th gen era, at least in my neighbourhood. My brother got a Gamecube for his 8th birthday in March 2002 (I was 9), with Super Smash Bros. Melee and Luigi's Mansion. My house was like a massive party that entire March Break, everyone wanted to come over to play Smash. 

By 2002, I'd say we were in pure (or close to pure) 6th gen era, at least in my neighbourhood. My brother got a Gamecube for his 8th birthday in March 2002 (I was 9), with Super Smash Bros. Melee and Luigi's Mansion. My house was like a massive party that entire March Break, everyone wanted to come over to play Smash.


That makes sense. 2002 had a lot of good sh*t pop culturally looking back. 2002 was like a hyped up party year for a lot of video games, TV, and sports in general. 2002 was like the Saturday of the 2000's decade.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.

Are we talking about the same song? I'm talking about Over My Head, Better Off Dead. The lyrics are actually way more depressing than I initially thought. Reading it, it's very dark  :o

Kids had it, but it wasn't as huge in the US thankfully. I think 40-50% of kids had it at its peak in 2006. By 2007, Facebook overtook it. Even with Facebook though, only 75-80% of kids ever had it by the time I graduated in 2010. My circle of nerdy friends especially hated it, they thought it was for socialite plebeians and refused to make an account. I LMAO'd when throughout 2012-Present, a lot of them are making Facebook accounts. MSN though... That was Queen throughout, 1999-2010. Everyone had it, even the nerds, 100% adoption. Even now, when I ask people for their emails, I notice younger people usually give their Gmail, while older people give their MSN  ;D

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Especially when I go to the theatres I find myself wishing they had commercial breaks or something LOL


The song deals with those times when you can't remember what you did the night before. "It's not about being fudgeed up or drunk," Whibley told MTV. "It's more about the aftermath when you're hearing everything you've just done the night before, and you're like, 'Ah, fudge, I'm better off dead.' I don't regret any of the things I do and I don't mind doing them, I just hate hearing about it. Being told every morning, 'Dude, what did you do last night?' drives me nuts."

Yes, we are talking about the same song. It's not very dark if you learn the true meaning.

I use my AOL.... ::) I remember in the mid 00s, it was all about MySpace. It was so weird. In the 90's and early 00s, it was all about angelfire, tripod and geocities. In 2004-onward "visit us on MySpace!!" and, soon enough, all the kids made their own personal profiles and it was huge! MSN was a big thing here, too, but it was second to Yahoo IM and AIM in the early 00s. In the mid 00s, I don't remember much AIM. I've never had a Facebook. ;D

Me too! If the movie isn't good or interesting right off the bat, I just can't sit still.


The PS2 hype was huge and a lot of people got it day one, I remember that. PS2 was backwards compatible, so it was easy to sell your PS1 so you can afford a PS2. But culturally, N64 was still huge in early 2001 when Pokémon Stadium 2 came out. That game had massive hype and sales in my neighbourhood. I remember daydreaming in class thinking about how epic the game was going to be  ;D Other notable releases were Mario Party 3, Paper Mario 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day.

By 2002, I'd say we were in pure (or close to pure) 6th gen era, at least in my neighbourhood. My brother got a Gamecube for his 8th birthday in March 2002 (I was 9), with Super Smash Bros. Melee and Luigi's Mansion. My house was like a massive party that entire March Break, everyone wanted to come over to play Smash. 


This. PS2 hype was huge right off the bat. I bought it at launch and thousands of people were lined up. N64 had flop after flop in 2001, though. Even Pokemon Stadium 2 was a flop. The PS1 still had steady success in 2000-2002.

Close, but many still played their PS1's until 2003 so it held on for a bit. It's like how the PS2 still held on even after the PS3 came out.


That makes sense. 2002 had a lot of good sh*t pop culturally looking back. 2002 was like a hyped up party year for a lot of video games, TV, and sports in general. 2002 was like the Saturday of the 2000's decade.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


Yes. 2002, along with 2000 and 2001, were the Xtreme spiky haired party days of the 00's.

That makes sense. 2002 had a lot of good sh*t pop culturally looking back. 2002 was like a hyped up party year for a lot of video games, TV, and sports in general. 2002 was like the Saturday of the 2000's decade.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


Well you were at least accurate on what you said. Since Slowpoke was talking about how 6th generation gaming was in its prime in 2002.

I use my AOL.... ::) I remember in the mid 00s, it was all about MySpace. It was so weird. In the 90's and early 00s, it was all about angelfire, tripod and geocities. In 2004-onward "visit us on MySpace!!" and, soon enough, all the kids made their own personal profiles and it was huge! MSN was a big thing here, too, but it was second to Yahoo IM and AIM in the early 00s. In the mid 00s, I don't remember much AIM. I've never had a Facebook. ;D


People were still using AIM during the mid 2000s. After that, people stopped using it and went on either Yahoo IM or MSN Messenger more.

That makes sense. 2002 had a lot of good sh*t pop culturally looking back. 2002 was like a hyped up party year for a lot of video games, TV, and sports in general. 2002 was like the Saturday of the 2000's decade.

Edit: oops, wrong thread.


Unfortunately, that would be the last time I ever had that much fun with the Gamecube (well, until Double Dash came out). Most games that came afterwards were disappointment after disappointment  :( Especially Mario Party 4, which was a huge step down from 3. But I still ha fun in 2002, but more on the cartoon and TV show side of things, and of course Yu-Gi-Oh  :D

Edit: I forgot to mention Sonic Adventure 2 Battle though. That game was amazing!

People were still using AIM during the mid 2000s. After that, people stopped using it and went on either Yahoo IM or MSN Messenger more.


I don't remember this. The amount of AOL users dropped heavily by the mid 00's. Yahoo IM and MSN, however, were very popular from beginning to end of the decade.

I don't remember this. The amount of AOL users dropped heavily by the mid 00's. Yahoo IM and MSN, however, were very popular from beginning to end of the decade.


I was talking about AIM users. Those people who probably didn't have AOL Desktop installed, since it was worthless after 2003. Seriously, AOL Desktop was only good when dial-up internet was the norm.

I was talking about AIM users. Those people who probably didn't have AOL Desktop installed, since it was worthless after 2003. Seriously, AOL Desktop was only good when dial-up internet was the norm.


I don't remember AIM users being all that common after 2003 but I agree; AOL Desktop was totally useless after broadband took over.

I don't remember AIM users being all that common after 2003 but I agree; AOL Desktop was totally useless after broadband took over.


I guess it's because you didn't use AIM after 2003.

The song deals with those times when you can't remember what you did the night before. "It's not about being fudgeed up or drunk," Whibley told MTV. "It's more about the aftermath when you're hearing everything you've just done the night before, and you're like, 'Ah, fudge, I'm better off dead.' I don't regret any of the things I do and I don't mind doing them, I just hate hearing about it. Being told every morning, 'Dude, what did you do last night?' drives me nuts."

Yes, we are talking about the same song. It's not very dark if you learn the true meaning.

I use my AOL.... ::) I remember in the mid 00s, it was all about MySpace. It was so weird. In the 90's and early 00s, it was all about angelfire, tripod and geocities. In 2004-onward "visit us on MySpace!!" and, soon enough, all the kids made their own personal profiles and it was huge! MSN was a big thing here, too, but it was second to Yahoo IM and AIM in the early 00s. In the mid 00s, I don't remember much AIM. I've never had a Facebook. ;D

Me too! If the movie isn't good or interesting right off the bat, I just can't sit still.

This. PS2 hype was huge right off the bat. I bought it at launch and thousands of people were lined up. N64 had flop after flop in 2001, though. Even Pokemon Stadium 2 was a flop. The PS1 still had steady success in 2000-2002.

Close, but many still played their PS1's until 2003 so it held on for a bit. It's like how the PS2 still held on even after the PS3 came out.

Yes. 2002, along with 2000 and 2001, were the Xtreme spiky haired party days of the 00's.


LOL it sounds like a suicide song, what the hell  ;D Talk about over dramatic.

How was Pokémon Stadium 2 a flop?  :o It wasn't as popular as the first but it was still huge and relevant.

I guess it's because you didn't use AIM after 2003.


Yes and no. I remember meeting new people and they'd ask for my email, AIM, Yahoo IM or MSN, right? In the mid 00's, they still asked for all of those except AIM. That got replaced with "omg u got a myspace X3"


LOL it sounds like a suicide song, what the hell  ;D Talk about over dramatic.

How was Pokémon Stadium 2 a flop?  :o It wasn't as popular as the first but it was still huge and relevant.


Well, yeah, it's Pop Punk. It has to be over dramatic. :P

All games released after the Christmas 2000 season were flops. The PS1 steadily survived on, however. 8) Sony > Nintendo

Yes and no. I remember meeting new people and they'd ask for my email, AIM, Yahoo IM or MSN, right? In the mid 00's, they still asked for all of those except AIM. That got replaced with "omg u got a myspace X3"


Eh. There's still people who used AIM until 2007/8, since that's when AIM was in its last legs.


All games released after the Christmas 2000 season were flops. The PS1 steadily survived on, however. 8) Sony > Nintendo


That still lives on to this day.

Yes and no. I remember meeting new people and they'd ask for my email, AIM, Yahoo IM or MSN, right? In the mid 00's, they still asked for all of those except AIM. That got replaced with "omg u got a myspace X3"

Well, yeah, it's Pop Punk. It has to be over dramatic. :P

All games released after the Christmas 2000 season were flops. The PS1 steadily survived on, however. 8) Sony > Nintendo


But this is the other kind of over dramatic! The one you're supposed to hate!  ;D

PS1 died in 2000. N64 died in mid-2001. All those games that sold well afterwards were bought for the PS2. Remember when I thought Spider-Man was an N64/PS2 game? I thought that because I remember my friend playing Spider-Man on his PS2! That's the game he got at launch. He's like "these graphics are sick! It's way better than the N64!", and I got all defensive and said "it looks the same to me". Turns out I wasn't being defensive, I was right! They do look the same!  >:(

All games released after the Christmas 2000 season were flops. The PS1 steadily survived on, however. 8) Sony > Nintendo


You were probably growing out of Nintendo by the time the original Playstation came out. I could easily see your core childhood being spent during the NES and SNES eras. However, the Nintendo 64 was the most mature Nintendo console in the history of the franchise that appealed to the most demographic, so maybe you found mature games you could enjoy on both the N64 and PS1.

But this is the other kind of over dramatic! The one you're supposed to hate!  ;D

PS1 died in 2000. N64 died in mid-2001. All those games that sold well afterwards were bought for the PS2. Remember when I thought Spider-Man was an N64/PS2 game? I thought that because I remember my friend playing Spider-Man on his PS2! That's the game he got at launch. He's like "these graphics are sick! It's way better than the N64!", and I got all defensive and said "it looks the same to me". Turns out I wasn't being defensive, I was right! They do look the same!  >:(


No way, this rules. I could never say bad things about Does This Look Infected. It's over dramatic like a New Found Glory song. It's not poetic or anything.

No way! The PS1 died in 2003! The N64 died in 2000. The PS1 was much, much mightier than the N64 and it lasted a lot longer. ;) Your friend is right, Spider-Man on the PS1 looks waaayyyyy better than the N64 Spider-Man. The N64 version was so bad that you didn't even get proper cutscenes. Instead, you got stupid still frame comics to look at.


You were probably growing out of Nintendo by the time the original Playstation came out. I could easily see your core childhood being spent during the NES and SNES eras. However, the Nintendo 64 was the most mature Nintendo console in the history of the franchise that appealed to the most demographic, so maybe you found mature games you could enjoy on both the N64 and PS1.


I guess? I liked the PS1 a lot more than the N64.