It seems like different people on this board have a different perspective on when they think culture transitioned from the '00s to the '10s.  I saw somebody a while back say it began as early as 2006 while others have said as late as 2012.  Personally I think fall 2008 is the earliest the case can be made for the '10s arriving culturally, though personally I would say fall of 2009.

So to you, what year did '10s culture begin?  What was the defining moment that signaled the arrival of the new decade?

2011. This is my decade - the decade that I am coming of age in - so I feel entitled to define it.

I may not like everything that the 2010s has had to offer, and I hope it gets better, but I do hold it in my heart because this is my youth decade.

In my eyes, 2011 or 2012 was when the 10s came fully!  :)

Officially, I'd say early 2009 was the point in time when 2010s culture first outweighed 2000s culture.  The breakthrough of YouTube, Facebook, and Wikipedia in 2006-2007, plus the release of the iPhone in June 2007 were the first hints of '10s culture, while the 2008-2009 school year was the period of significant transition that finally brought us into a new cultural decade.  There is no single "defining moment," but there are several factors confined to this short period that most caused me to feel like we had entered a new era, including:

+ The full onset of the Great Recession with the Lehman Bros. bailout, leading to a rapid increase in the unemployment rate globally.
+ Lady Gaga releases The Fame, whose lead single Just Dance fully places 2010s-style music centre stage after it reaches #1 on the iTunes download chart and, eventually the Billboard Hot 100.
+ T.I.'s Whatever You Like becomes the final crunk/snap song to make a serious impact on the charts.
+ Late 2000s icon Akon releases Freedom, an electropop album, starting a long trend of 2000s urban stars transitioning their sound into to dance/electronica territory (the most notable examples being The Black Eyed Peas, Usher, and Pitbull).
+ The introduction of Ke$ha on Flo Rida's Right Round.
+ The election of Barack Obama, putting an end to George W. Bush's eight-year reign of terror and giving America its very first black President of the United States.
+ The passage of Proposition 8 in California, an upset outcome that ultimately galvanizes the gay marriage movement and causes LGBT rights to become a more significant political topic than ever before.
+ HD television becomes standard, with many programs making the transition around this time.
+ Facebook officially becomes more popular than MySpace.
+ Pop punk and post-grunge begin their gradual exit from the mainstream, with Green Day's 21st Century Breakdown, Daughtry's Leave This Town, and Boys Like Girls' LoveDrunk being the biggest rock releases of the year, despite every one of them being less successful than their respective predecessors.  Simultaneously, electro-influenced alternative/indie bands like Cage the Elephant, MGMT, and 3OH!3 begin to overtake the aging guitar rock sound.
+ The death of Michael Jackson, a loss which shocks the world and leads to a reinvigoration of the King of Pop's influence in the rising electronic/dance music genre.
+ Rick Santelli's Tea Party Rant in February 2009, which ushers in a new era of conservative American politics in place of the discredited Bush '43 coalition.
+ The iPhone, while still far from standardization, is finally a significant presence in the mobile market.

Obviously, the 2000s influence in popular culture lingered on for a bit longer (ending conclusively in 2011 with the death of Osama Bin Laden and end of the Iraq War, plus the release of the final Harry Potter movie), but by the beginning of the 2009-2010 school year, it was no longer dominant.  The 2010s zeitgeist was already in full effect by the beginning of 2009, and the new cultural trends soon followed.  2009 may have been more primitive than the following six years up to this point, but by all general means, it was the start of the greater era we're in now.

I'd say 2009 was the first full year of 2010's culture, 2008 was the transitional year though, so while the 1st half of 2008 was still late 2000's culture, the 2nd half of that year was when early 2010's culture had really took off. So it started in 2008 while 2009 was the first full year it was in full effect.

In my eyes, 2011 or 2012 was when the 10s came fully!  :)


You're absolutely correct!

The '10s started in 2011 when these were released in that year:

https://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/4d5597f4b4627.jpg

2010 & 2011 were hardly any different pop culturally and worldly with some few exceptions. How could the 2010's culture had taken off in 2011 just because of some few irrelevant releases or just how you felt about your personal life!?

2010 & 2011 were hardly any different pop culturally and worldly with some few exceptions. How could the 2010's culture had taken off in 2011 just because of some few irrelevant releases or just how you felt about your personal life!?


In the year 2010 : 2010s pop cultural institutions were still being introduced.

In the year 2011: Game of Thrones, Funko Pop! and Siri were introduced, all of which will most likely be present in the year 2020.

You're absolutely correct!

The '10s started in 2011 when these were released in that year:

https://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/4d5597f4b4627.jpg


Do you like the 2010s?  ???

I agree that there wasn't a lot of difference between 2010 and 2011.  Fall of 2009 had quite a few changes and then the next wave of change wasn't really felt until summer 2012.

As for TV, Glee began in 2009 and the Walking Dead began in 2010.  Those two shows were HUGE in the early 2010s.  A lot of '00s mainstays like the Office for instance had past peak by that point.

Overall, it it's earliest influences started in late 2008, the decade, culturally was full swing by 2011. Late 2008 until 2011 was building up to the culture.

What was the defining moment that signaled the arrival of the new decade?

For me it would be the release of the iPad, although I might feel differently once the 2010s are old enough to look back on fully. Given that 2010 was also when smartphones stopped being a novelty, I'd say the start of the 'smartphone and tablet era' marked the start of the decade.

If we are going by school years this is how I saw it:

2007-2008 Last Core 2000's School Year

2008-2009 Core 2000's-Electropop Transition

2009-2010 Start of Electropop Era (the entire era was the transition from 00's culture & 10's culture)

2010-2011 Electropop Era

2011-2012 Ultimate Electropop School Year (the last school year with some 2000's influences still relevant)

2012-2013 Electropop-Core 10's Transition

2013-2014 Start of the Core 10's (ALL 2000's influences are now gone)

2014-2015 Core 10's

2015-2016 Core 10's

If we are going by school years this is how I saw it:
2009-2010 Start of Electropop Era (the entire era was the transition from 00's culture & 10's culture)

2010-2011 Electropop Era

2011-2012 Ultimate Electropop School Year (the last school year with some 2000's influences still relevant)


Although I'd say that the transition from 2000's culture to 2010's culture was the 2008-2009 school year, for many reasons of course, like the election of Barack Obama, the start of the electropop era music which actually began in 2008, and 6th generation gaming being discontinued after 7th generation gaming long already being in full swing. Plus around this time was probably the peak of Facebook used by high school students at least. The fashion had changed so much at the time too. For the ultimate electropop school year, that's probably leaning towards the 2010-2011 school year IMO, I found more hits during that time than 2011-2012 school year. Everything else you said I'm straight on with 100%.

Although I'd say that the transition from 2000's culture to 2010's culture was the 2008-2009 school year, for many reasons of course, like the election of Barack Obama, the start of the electropop era music which actually began in 2008, and 6th generation gaming being discontinued after 7th generation gaming long already being in full swing. Plus around this time was probably the peak of Facebook used by high school students at least. The fashion had changed so much at the time too. For the ultimate electropop school year, that's probably leaning towards the 2010-2011 school year IMO, I found more hits during that time than 2011-2012 school year. Everything else you said I'm straight on with 100%.


Well I do agree with you that 2008-2009 was a transitional year I still feel it was a bit to early for the core 10's. Now I do agree with you that 2009 was more 10's than 00's, but It was about 60% 10's and 40% 00's, so somewhat half and half leaning more toward 10's. Looking back 2010 wasn't that different. However 2011 & 2012, while they had a few 00's influences, it was pretty clear that we were now mostly in the 10's culture. So I would say 2009-2012 were 10's, with mid-late 00's influences, while 2013-today is pure 10's

For me it would be the release of the iPad, although I might feel differently once the 2010s are old enough to look back on fully. Given that 2010 was also when smartphones stopped being a novelty, I'd say the start of the 'smartphone and tablet era' marked the start of the decade.


Good point. The iPad came out in very early 2010 and completely changed society.  People forget that if you bought a computer in 2009, it was a traditional desktop or laptop without a touch screen and it probably came with Windows Vista.

Do you like the 2010s?  ???


No, but I like being up-to-date on everything. 8)

Late 2008 until 2011 was building up to the culture.


Exactly. '08 to '11 was "the very last drop" of the 2000s.

Exactly. '08 to '11 was "the very last drop" of the 2000s.


Interesting.  Most people tend to associate that era with the '10s and not the '00s.

Time will tell, but the 2008-11 era may ultimately end up being viewed as similar to the 1989-1992 culture.  That era was pretty distinct and doesn't fit squarely into either decade and there's disagreement over whether or not it represented the death throws of the '80s or the emergence of the '90s.  The case can be made for either side.

Time will tell, but the 2008-11 era may ultimately end up being viewed as similar to the 1989-1992 culture.  That era was pretty distinct and doesn't fit squarely into either decade and there's disagreement over whether or not it represented the death throws of the '80s or the emergence of the '90s.  The case can be made for either side.

Well, so far, the Great Recession era feels pretty much comfortably early 2010s, not a 2000s/2010s hybrid.  Electropop is pretty much just the first and better incarnation of mid-2010s EDM.  The beginning of the eighth generation of gaming was not that big deal because Sony and Microsoft were still the main contenders and everything's still cutscene-driven or FPS-style.  YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook have all been huge since the early 2010s and still are.  The second Disney Renaissance began either in 2009 with Princess and the Frog or 2010 with Tangled, depending on your perspective (Frozen was just the Lion King of this upswing).  Unlike hair metal, new wave, and gated-drum pop rock, which survived all the way to 1993, post-grunge, pop punk, and snap/crunk died very quickly after 2010s culture was in full swing.  The issues of the day since the onset of the Recession and election of Barack Obama have all been about social protests, not Bush's War in Iraq; not much has changed in that regard.  While you could make arguments categorizing 2009-2012 as its own, independent period, I personally don't think it has nearly as distinct identity as the Bush '41 era of 1989-1992 or millennial period of 1997-2001 and mostly just seems like the first stages of 2010s culture.

The fashion had changed so much at the time too.

How so?  The side buzz was still a few years away, and the scene influence lingered on during that time, too.  Otherwise, I'd say the early 2010s were pretty much the "neutral" era of fashion, with some people sporting hipster or scene apparel, but for the most part, there was no coherent theme and the dominant hairstyles were basically non-styled for both men and women.

I think culture is stuck in 2008/2009. Not to say that we're still 100% in 2008 (time isn't that stagnant) but 2008 felt very different than the 2004-2006/2007 era.  2008 started a lot of things. It was the beginning of the electropop era as in April of that year Katy Perry and Lady Gaga had released both I Kissed a Girl and Just Dance, respectively, and later on in that year they'd release their debut albums (Perry in June and Gaga in August. Both summer releases) under their new electropop monikers (previously, they'd used their real names and had little success). Both those singers are still very relevant today. 2007 is also the year of Britney Spear's come back. She made a new name for herself among the Katy Perry's, Kesha's And Lady Gaga's without being seen as "that old teen-pop singer from 1990-whatever" like most of them (aside from Timberlake who also has incredible staying power). The fun-for-the-whole-family little hip hop trio of Nicki Minaj, Drake and Lil Wayne also got pretty big in 2008, too. It's also when Facebook and Twitter started getting really big. I remember seeing news reports on the "new phenomenon" of Facebook and Twitter. 2009 is the year Myspace finally died out as the people I knew had stopped using it in favor of Facebook and Twitter. YouTube was big since it's inception but 2008 was a big change as it was when people started breaking through using social media. Justin Bieber (even for some reason that kid is still big today! A lot more staying power than Aaron Carter ever had!) got discovered sometime in 2007-2008 and when 2009 hit, he blew up like crazy. I remember it being a big deal he was discovered off of YouTube. This is all in the 2008-2009 era where people started getting big simply off making YouTube videos and that continues today. Also, 2007-2009 saw the rise of the smartphone. By 2009, I didn't know any kid who had a flip phone. I still have one but, according to the youths in my family, that's because I'm "old." Even my sister has a smartphone and she's only 3 years younger than me! I think even she first got the iphone in 2009. Fashion hasn't really change since 2007. All saggy skinny jeans, tight clothing, flatcaps with the stickers, etc.

I think culture is stuck in 2008/2009. Not to say that we're still 100% in 2008 (time isn't that stagnant) but 2008 felt very different than the 2004-2006/2007 era.  2008 started a lot of things. It was the beginning of the electropop era as in April of that year Katy Perry and Lady Gaga had released both I Kissed a Girl and Just Dance, respectively, and later on in that year they'd release their debut albums (Perry in June and Gaga in August. Both summer releases) under their new electropop monikers (previously, they'd used their real names and had little success). Both those singers are still very relevant today. 2007 is also the year of Britney Spear's come back. She made a new name for herself among the Katy Perry's, Kesha's And Lady Gaga's without being seen as "that old teen-pop singer from 1990-whatever" like most of them (aside from Timberlake who also has incredible staying power). The fun-for-the-whole-family little hip hop trio of Nicki Minaj, Drake and Lil Wayne also got pretty big in 2008, too. It's also when Facebook and Twitter started getting really big. I remember seeing news reports on the "new phenomenon" of Facebook and Twitter. 2009 is the year Myspace finally died out as the people I knew had stopped using it in favor of Facebook and Twitter. YouTube was big since it's inception but 2008 was a big change as it was when people started breaking through using social media. Justin Bieber (even for some reason that kid is still big today! A lot more staying power than Aaron Carter ever had!) got discovered sometime in 2007-2008 and when 2009 hit, he blew up like crazy. I remember it being a big deal he was discovered off of YouTube. This is all in the 2008-2009 era where people started getting big simply off making YouTube videos and that continues today. Also, 2007-2009 saw the rise of the smartphone. By 2009, I didn't know any kid who had a flip phone. I still have one but, according to the youths in my family, that's because I'm "old." Even my sister has a smartphone and she's only 3 years younger than me! I think even she first got the iphone in 2009. Fashion hasn't really change since 2007. All saggy skinny jeans, tight clothing, flatcaps with the stickers, etc.


Why isn't there a like button on this site lol! Props to you for this description! I felt the same way about 2008/2009 as well looking back!

How so?  The side buzz was still a few years away, and the scene influence lingered on during that time, too.  Otherwise, I'd say the early 2010s were pretty much the "neutral" era of fashion, with some people sporting hipster or scene apparel, but for the most part, there was no coherent theme and the dominant hairstyles were basically non-styled for both men and women.


I looked at different photos in my yearbook comparing the 2007-2008 school year to the 2008-2009 school year, I realized a huge attitude change in the fashion, as I started to notice more people with name brand clothes and people really started caring about what you had to wear based off what culture you followed, and by the 2009-2010 school year the fashion became real distant from the 2007-2008 school year. A lot of young teens started trying to dress up like the artists in music videos, famous athletes, or celebrities on TV.

I looked at different photos in my yearbook comparing the 2007-2008 school year to the 2008-2009 school year, I realized a huge attitude change in the fashion, as I started to notice more people with name brand clothes and people really started caring about what you had to wear based off what culture you followed, and by the 2009-2010 school year the fashion became real distant from the 2007-2008 school year. A lot of young teens started trying to dress up like the artists in music videos, famous athletes, or celebrities on TV.


That hardly sounds different from decades past.  Girls everywhere wanted to be like Avril Lavigne in the 2000s.  Unfortunately, I only have hairdos to refer to with my yearbooks because I went to a private school with uniforms, but aside from the average length of boys' hair being slightly shorter, hardly anything seemed to change between 9th grade and the years following.  2012-2013 was really when things started to enter a different direction with the side buzz, death of scene, etc.

Why isn't there a like button on this site lol! Props to you for this description! I felt the same way about 2008/2009 as well looking back!


Thanks!


I looked at different photos in my yearbook comparing the 2007-2008 school year to the 2008-2009 school year, I realized a huge attitude change in the fashion, as I started to notice more people with name brand clothes and people really started caring about what you had to wear based off what culture you followed, and by the 2009-2010 school year the fashion became real distant from the 2007-2008 school year. A lot of young teens started trying to dress up like the artists in music videos, famous athletes, or celebrities on TV.


In my experience, the fashion of late 2007 wasn't too different than 2008 onward. It definitely progressed as 2008 went on, though. The true beginning's of the 2010's culture definitely took place from April to August of 2008 whereas 2007 is more-or-less the transition period. If I hear any songs or see any videos and photos from then, half the time it'll look pretty 2000's and other times it looks more like today.


That hardly sounds different from decades past.  Girls everywhere wanted to be like Avril Lavigne in the 2000s.  Unfortunately, I only have hairdos to refer to with my yearbooks because I went to a private school with uniforms, but aside from the average length of boys' hair being slightly shorter, hardly anything seemed to change between 9th grade and the years following.  2012-2013 was really when things started to enter a different direction with the side buzz, death of scene, etc.


Didn't Rhianna make that look popular around 2009?

Didn't Rhianna make that look popular around 2009?


Sort of, but it didn't really become common for women to wear side buzzes until just recently.  Men, meanwhile, did not begin sporting side buzzes at a widespread level until 2012.

2008/2009.

Sort of, but it didn't really become common for women to wear side buzzes until just recently.  Men, meanwhile, did not begin sporting side buzzes at a widespread level until 2012.


Yeah, that dumb pompadour haircut that I see everywhere. I first noticed that when Macklemore got popular.

Most people tend to associate that era with the '10s and not the '00s.

Their remarks are subjective. Those people obviously are not aware of what the 2000s were.

Time will tell, but the 2008-11 era may ultimately end up being viewed as similar to the 1989-1992 culture.  That era was pretty distinct and doesn't fit squarely into either decade and there's disagreement over whether or not it represented the death throws of the '80s or the emergence of the '90s.  The case can be made for either side.


The early '90s (1990,1991,and 1992) were my favorite era and I know them well. The years '08 to '11 did not have much in common with that time period at all. 
2011 was quite similar to 1990 in that they act as the start to a new era and decade.

The events of the 1980s decade, as well as the last two years of the '70s, were leading up to what people saw in 1990.

The same could be said for the 2000s and the year 2011.

Let's take a look at the movies of '90:

https://monsterpopcorn.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/gremlins-2-poster.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI5MDAzNzgyMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTQ3NDYyMQ@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg

https://videovortex.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/robocop-2-poster.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Bride_of_Re-Animator.jpg

Now, what were the most popular feature films released in 2011?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/X-MenFirstClassMoviePoster.jpg

http://i.jeded.com/i/cars-2.15102.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE5MjkwODI3Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjcwMDk4NA@@._V1_SY317_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

https://areelviewonfilm.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/transformers-dark-of-the-moon.jpg

https://guydavis.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/poster-fast-five.jpg

https://thespotlightreport.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/the-hangover-part-2-movie-poster.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Breaking_Dawn_Part_1_Poster.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY2MTk3MDQ1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzI4NzA2NQ@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg


I rest my case. ;)

2010 & 2011 were hardly any different pop culturally and worldly with some few exceptions. How could the 2010's culture had taken off in 2011 just because of some few irrelevant releases or just how you felt about your personal life!?


There is no such thing as an irrelevant release. Everything serves a purpose on this earth. :)

Yeah, that dumb pompadour haircut that I see everywhere. I first noticed that when Macklemore got popular.


Yeah, the side buzz, for guys and girls, started to become more popular around 2012.

For guys, this was everywhere in 2008 and 2009.  This look is one of the big things I associate with the late '00s.  Pretty much every guy who could had that style or some variation of it.  In 2010, shorter hair started to become more popular.

http://www.hairfinder.com/hairstyles7/mens-hairstyles-blonde.jpg

Yeah, the side buzz, for guys and girls, started to become more popular around 2012.

For guys, this was everywhere in 2008 and 2009.  This look is one of the big things I associate with the late '00s.  Pretty much every guy who could had that style or some variation of it.  In 2010, shorter hair started to become more popular.

http://www.hairfinder.com/hairstyles7/mens-hairstyles-blonde.jpg


That look hasn't gone away. I still see it everywhere with the young people of today's America. It's either that or the pompadour but that look is mostly popular with the hipster crowd. On a side note, I can't believe his shirt says "Punk Rock" on it. Jesus Christ...

Fashion hasn't really change since 2007. All saggy skinny jeans, tight clothing, flatcaps with the stickers, etc.


I disagree.  Fashion has changed quite a bit since then.  Skinny jeans are no longer in style and the emo look is gone.  Logo t-shirts were still pretty popular through 2011ish.  You really started to see fashion change around 2012.  I noticed it when I went from loving American Eagle to pretty much hating everything in the store.  Most of my clothes from the late '00s I either don't wear anymore or only wear casually.

That look hasn't gone away. I still see it everywhere with the young people of today's America. It's either that or the pompadour but that look is mostly popular with the hipster crowd. On a side note, I can't believe his shirt says "Punk Rock" on it. Jesus Christ...


It must be regional differences.  I don't live in a very fashion forward part of the country, but here that look was wildly popular from 2007-09 but you don't see it very often now.  Every once and a while I will still see a younger person rocking that look but for the most part it is out of style.  Guys started ditching that hairstyle in masse in 2010 and 2011.

I disagree.  Fashion has changed quite a bit since then.  Skinny jeans are no longer in style and the emo look is gone.  Logo t-shirts were still pretty popular through 2011ish.  You really started to see fashion change around 2012.  I noticed it when I went from loving American Eagle to pretty much hating everything in the store.  Most of my clothes from the late '00s I either don't wear anymore or only wear casually.


Really? That pseudo post-2004 emo thing started dying (as a scene) around 2007/2008 but I still see kids with heavy make-up and dyed hair walking around. Same with skinny jeans; I see those everywhere. All the rap and hipster kids still wear 'em.


It must be regional differences.  I don't live in a very fashion forward part of the country, but here that look was wildly popular from 2007-09 but you don't see it very often now.  Every once and a while I will still see a younger person rocking that look but for the most part it is out of style.  Guys started ditching that hairstyle in masse in 2010 and 2011.


Possibly. Most of the fashions I started seeing in 2008/2009 still seem to be pretty popular today.

This is the "in" look where I live today.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/48/cb/7c/48cb7cbbf5410816f0cbfaa83321ddd3.jpg

http://gto-live.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Mainstreamhipstermenhair293847.jpg

Their remarks are subjective. Those people obviously are not aware of what the 2000s were.

Really, I shouldn't be responding to any of this, since it's pretty obvious you're too stubborn about your own opinion to be convinced otherwise, but I'm going to address your above argument and those following, anyway, because you're not going to persuade every single of one us with your personally biased logic, either.

Apparently the 2000s were the "Pokémon" decade by fact, so they began in 1999, and by 2011, Pokémon games were still popular with the release of Black & White (though later we had X & Y, as well as Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire).  If you didn't care about or pay attention to Pokémon, then you weren't living in the 2000s.  9/11?  Emo?  The increasing interconnectedness of society?  Completely irrelevant, Pokémon, a franchise first released in Japan in February 1996 and which hasn't disappeared since, was the primary driving force of the 2000s.  The only other things that come close are other random fads from 1999 that still had vague significance later on (i.e., Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Eminem, Dance Dance Revolution, etc.).

The early '90s (1990,1991,and 1992) were my favorite era and I know them well. The years '08 to '11 did not have much in common with that time period at all.

Okay, obviously two periods over two decades apart aren't going to be totally similar to each other, but...

2011 was quite similar to 1990 in that they act as the start to a new era and decade.

That was sort of the point he was making in the first place, that both general periods of time were the beginning of the new decade.  You're just specifically confining it to two single years because popular culture only evolves to the rhythm of your perception.

The events of the 1980s decade, as well as the last two years of the '70s, were leading up to what people saw in 1990.

The same could be said for the 2000s and the year 2011.

Let's take a look at the movies of '90:

https://monsterpopcorn.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/gremlins-2-poster.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI5MDAzNzgyMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTQ3NDYyMQ@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg

https://videovortex.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/robocop-2-poster.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Bride_of_Re-Animator.jpg

Now, what were the most popular feature films released in 2011?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/X-MenFirstClassMoviePoster.jpg

http://i.jeded.com/i/cars-2.15102.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE5MjkwODI3Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjcwMDk4NA@@._V1_SY317_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

https://areelviewonfilm.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/transformers-dark-of-the-moon.jpg

https://guydavis.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/poster-fast-five.jpg

https://thespotlightreport.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/the-hangover-part-2-movie-poster.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Breaking_Dawn_Part_1_Poster.jpg

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY2MTk3MDQ1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzI4NzA2NQ@@._V1_SX640_SY720_.jpg


I rest my case. ;)


So, basically, 1990 and 2011 both had a lot of sequels?  So what?  Every year from the past few decades is loaded with popular sequels, they're usually monkey-making vehicles that capitalize on previous successes.

If you're discussing the most significant films of 1990, then you'd absolutely have to bring up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Home Alone, Goodfellas, Pretty Woman, Ghost, and Dance with Wolves, none of which are sequels.  In fact, of 1990's top 10 highest grossing films, the only two that were sequels were Back to the Future Part III and Die Hard 2, ironically neither of which you invoked in your above post.

2011, on the other hand, was a year whose top-grossers were sequels, but even then, the only ones people truly loved were Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 and Mission Impossible:  Ghost Protocol; otherwise, the year had a lot of very popular first films, such as Captain America:  The First Avenger, Thor,  The Muppets, and Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

Regardless of the facts, bringing up 1990 and 2011's respective sequels doesn't prove anything unless you specifically point to the lack of sequels during the years preceding and following both years.  In fact, I'm going to play your game and state that 2010 was just like 1989 because both years had sequels to popular films from the last decade.

Let's take a look at some of the movies from 1989:

http://5.lunalowell.com/luna/files/2014/12/back_to_the_future1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dpd9RMjaXKg/U0yj632zC7I/AAAAAAAABcQ/vzIpoJjx50Q/s1600/the-karate-kid-part-3-movie-poster-1989-1020470197.jpg

http://assets.flicks.co.nz/images/movies/poster/97/9718db12cae6be37f7349779007ee589_500x735.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Lethal_Weapon_2_Poster.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Fly2Poster.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Food_of_the_gods_2_poster.jpg

http://nextprojection.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/twod18.jpg

http://images.moviepostershop.com//halloween-5-the-revenge-of-michael-myers-movie-poster-1020380630.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/02msleepawaycamp.jpg

In fact, I don't even need to post any more movie posters, I can just refer you to this.

Now for some of the biggest movies of 2010:

http://www.cinemafunk.com/sites/default/files/images/featured-images/toy-story-3-movie-review.jpg

http://thesmith.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/hp-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1-poster-artwork-daniel-radcliffe-rupert-grint-emma-watson.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Shrek_forever_after_ver8.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Eclipse_Theatrical_One-Sheet.jpg

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/doblaje/images/5/56/Iron_Man_2_Poster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120712032006&path-prefix=es

http://sothathappenedpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/sex-and-the-city-2-poster-artwork-sarah-jessica-parker-kim-cattrall-kristin-davis.jpg

http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2010/06/file_66612_0_reafterlifeimage1.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Jackass_3d_poster.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AulalmWiL._SX940_.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/1/10/Saw_3d_Poster.jpg

Based on all the sequels from both years, you could have easily sworn that walls were falling in Germany in 2010 and everybody was tik toking in 1989.  Clearly, 1989 and 2010 were both the beginning of a new era for everything.

It seems like different people on this board have a different perspective on when they think culture transitioned from the '00s to the '10s.  I saw somebody a while back say it began as early as 2006 while others have said as late as 2012.  Personally I think fall 2008 is the earliest the case can be made for the '10s arriving culturally, though personally I would say fall of 2009.

So to you, what year did '10s culture begin?  What was the defining moment that signaled the arrival of the new decade?


I didnt say 2006 was the first year of culture but its when it gave you sneek peaks


2010 culture began in late 2012- 2013 tho

Really, I shouldn't be responding to any of this, since it's pretty obvious you're too stubborn about your own opinion to be convinced otherwise, but I'm going to address your above argument and those following, anyway, because you're not going to persuade every single of one us with your personally biased logic, either.

It's not an opinion, but you are free to believe what you want. :)

That was sort of the point he was making in the first place, that both general periods of time were the beginning of the new decade.  You're just specifically confining it to two single years because popular culture only evolves to the rhythm of your perception.

'08 to '11 did not feel like the beginning of a new decade at all, when we were still living in them.

So, basically, 1990 and 2011 both had a lot of sequels?  So what?  Every year from the past few decades is loaded with popular sequels, they're usually money-making vehicles that capitalize on previous successes.

'90 and '11 had sequels to films that were released in different eras before them.

If you're discussing the most significant films of 1990, then you'd absolutely have to bring up Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Home Alone, Goodfellas, Pretty Woman, Ghost, and Dance with Wolves, none of which are sequels.  In fact, of 1990's top 10 highest grossing films, the only two that were sequels were Back to the Future Part III and Die Hard 2, ironically neither of which you invoked in your above post.

I was not discussing the most significant films of 1990, though. I agree with you, I should have included Back to the Future Part 3 and Die Hard 2 in my list of movies.


2011, on the other hand, was a year whose top-grossers were sequels, but even then, the only ones people truly loved were Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 and Mission Impossible:  Ghost Protocol; otherwise, the year had a lot of very popular first films, such as Captain America:  The First Avenger, Thor,  The Muppets, and Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

Exactly. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 was the epic finale to a beloved franchise that spanned a decade.

Those first films of 2011 would not have been in theaters if not for the box office results of Alvin and the Chipmunks and Iron Man.

Regardless of the facts, bringing up 1990 and 2011's respective sequels doesn't prove anything unless you specifically point to the lack of sequels during the years preceding and following both years.  In fact, I'm going to play your game and state that 2010 was just like 1989 because both years had sequels to popular films from the last decade.

Let's take a look at some of the movies from 1989:

http://5.lunalowell.com/luna/files/2014/12/back_to_the_future1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dpd9RMjaXKg/U0yj632zC7I/AAAAAAAABcQ/vzIpoJjx50Q/s1600/the-karate-kid-part-3-movie-poster-1989-1020470197.jpg

http://assets.flicks.co.nz/images/movies/poster/97/9718db12cae6be37f7349779007ee589_500x735.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/Lethal_Weapon_2_Poster.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Fly2Poster.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Indiana_Jones_and_the_Last_Crusade_A.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Food_of_the_gods_2_poster.jpg

http://nextprojection.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/twod18.jpg

http://images.moviepostershop.com//halloween-5-the-revenge-of-michael-myers-movie-poster-1020380630.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/02msleepawaycamp.jpg

In fact, I don't even need to post any more movie posters, I can just refer you to this.

Now for some of the biggest movies of 2010:

http://www.cinemafunk.com/sites/default/files/images/featured-images/toy-story-3-movie-review.jpg

http://thesmith.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/hp-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1-poster-artwork-daniel-radcliffe-rupert-grint-emma-watson.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Shrek_forever_after_ver8.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d7/Eclipse_Theatrical_One-Sheet.jpg

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/doblaje/images/5/56/Iron_Man_2_Poster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120712032006&path-prefix=es

http://sothathappenedpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/sex-and-the-city-2-poster-artwork-sarah-jessica-parker-kim-cattrall-kristin-davis.jpg

http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2010/06/file_66612_0_reafterlifeimage1.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/Jackass_3d_poster.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AulalmWiL._SX940_.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/1/10/Saw_3d_Poster.jpg

Based on all the sequels from both years, you could have easily sworn that walls were falling in Germany in 2010 and everybody was tik toking in 1989.  Clearly, 1989 and 2010 were both the beginning of a new era for everything.


You missed my point.

Films like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Ghostbusters 2 were only released five years after the originals were in theaters. During that time, Kenner Real Ghostbusters merchandise, LJN Indiana Jones items, and Karate Kid action figures by Remco were all still in stores.

Gremlins 2: The New Batch and Bride of the Re-Animator should have hit theaters in 1987,1988, or 1989, but they came out in 1990 instead.

2010 culture began in late 2012- 2013 tho


What kind of pop culture defines the 2010s for you?

By comparing the early '10s and the early '90s, I wasn't suggesting that they echo each other.  They are very different eras with different zeitgeists.  How they are similar is they have distinct cultures that don't fit squarely with either the preceding decade or the subsequent one.  Depending on who you ask, some will consider the era the death throws of the previous decade or the emergence of the later one.  You also had this in the Y2K era (1998-2001) but it was less pronounced than the early '10s or the early '90s.

'90 and '11 had sequels to films that were released in different eras before them.

So did '89 and '10, or '91 and '12, or '92 and '13, or '88 and '09, depending on your artificial perspective.  1990's association with the 80s or 90s is highly debatable; like bchris02 stated before, reasonable arguments can be made for both sides because although there was a lot of '90s stuff coming in that year like The Simpsons, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Mariah Carey, 80s trends such as gated drums in popular music, mullets and crimped curly hair, macho action flicks still being the most popular type of summer blockbusters, and ongoing 80s shows like Cheers and The Cosby Show gave the year a strong 80s atmosphere as well.  Society doesn't simply "build up" to single, isolated years roughly a decade in advance and not towards various other years simultaneously.

I was not discussing the most significant films of 1990, though. I agree with you, I should have included Back to the Future Part 3 and Die Hard 2 in my list of movies.

Well, your point was that somehow 1990 and 2011 were both the beginnings of new eras based on both years having lots of sequels to popular films from the preceding decade.  All I was pointing out was that you can make the exact same argument for any other pair of years, hence why I did the same with 1989 and 2010 to show you.

Exactly. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 was the epic finale to a beloved franchise that spanned a decade.

I thought we were discussing all of the sequels you listed?  Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was the epic finale to an acclaimed movie franchise that spanned all parts of the 80s decade.  Even if you bring up your "80s began in 1978 because of Star Wars Mania and Garfield" argument, you're forgetting that the first Harry Potter movie was not released until 2001, two years after your supposed starting point for the 2000s.

Those first films of 2011 would not have been in theaters if not for the box office results of Alvin and the Chipmunks and Iron Man.

Arbitrary, biased, associative logic.

You missed my point.

Films like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Ghostbusters 2 were only released five years after the originals were in theaters. During that time, Kenner Real Ghostbusters merchandise, LJN Indiana Jones items, and Karate Kid action figures by Remco were all still in stores.

Gremlins 2: The New Batch and Bride of the Re-Animator should have hit theaters in 1987,1988, or 1989, but they came out in 1990 instead.


This is so all over the place, it's almost not worth addressing.  All it really does is go to show how lost you are in your own agenda of decadeology, without realizing all of the contradictions in your logic.  Only five years for Last Crusade and Ghostbusters 2?  That's how long it took for Bride of Re-Animator to come out following the 1985 original.  All of the sequels you referred to besides Cars 2 came out in less time than that after their predecessor, anyway.

Good point. The iPad came out in very early 2010 and completely changed society.  People forget that if you bought a computer in 2009, it was a traditional desktop or laptop without a touch screen and it probably came with Windows Vista.


I still have Windows Vista.

Yeah, the side buzz, for guys and girls, started to become more popular around 2012.

For guys, this was everywhere in 2008 and 2009.  This look is one of the big things I associate with the late '00s.  Pretty much every guy who could had that style or some variation of it.  In 2010, shorter hair started to become more popular.

http://www.hairfinder.com/hairstyles7/mens-hairstyles-blonde.jpg


Isn't that emo? ???

This is the "in" look where I live today.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/48/cb/7c/48cb7cbbf5410816f0cbfaa83321ddd3.jpg

http://gto-live.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Mainstreamhipstermenhair293847.jpg


Isn't that the "bed head" look?

By comparing the early '10s and the early '90s, I wasn't suggesting that they echo each other.  They are very different eras with different zeitgeists.  How they are similar is they have distinct cultures that don't fit squarely with either the preceding decade or the subsequent one.  Depending on who you ask, some will consider the era the death throws of the previous decade or the emergence of the later one.  You also had this in the Y2K era (1998-2001) but it was less pronounced than the early '10s or the early '90s.


The early '90s have distinct cultures that don't fit squarely with either the '80s or the '00s? Could you please elaborate on that statement?

1990's association with the 80s or 90s is highly debatable; like bchris02 stated before, reasonable arguments can be made for both sides because although there was a lot of '90s stuff coming in that year like The Simpsons, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Mariah Carey, 80s trends such as gated drums in popular music, mullets and crimped curly hair, macho action flicks still being the most popular type of summer blockbusters, and ongoing 80s shows like Cheers and The Cosby Show gave the year a strong 80s atmosphere as well.

The '80s decade: We were living for the 1990s (1990-1999)
The '90s decade:  ''      ''      ''      ''    the 2000s (1999 - 2011)
The '00s decade:  ''      ''      ''      ''    the 2010s (2011 - ???)

Society doesn't simply "build up" to single, isolated years roughly a decade in advance and not towards various other years simultaneously.

My apologies, I should have rephrased that statement before hitting the post button.

Do you mean to tell me that you do not see a pattern here?:

https://hackskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/mariah1.jpg

1990

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Mariah_Carey_Rainbow.png

1999

https://chivethebrigade.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/super-soakers-500-0.jpg?quality=100&strip=info

1991

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/XNUAAOxy0x1TVyGj/$_59.JPG?set_id=880000500F

1999

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/NoDoubtCover.png

1992

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1999

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81B4ZvZoWoL._SY355_.jpg

1993

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk3/z/ARoAAOSwHjNV8f4a/$_1.JPG

1999

https://lunkiandsika.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/clerks-1994-original-poster.png

1994

https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/582987.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V9RDXSZGL.jpg

1999

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Toy_Story.jpg

1995

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Toy_Story_2.jpg

1999

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/thesentineltvseries1996/images/a/af/The_sentinel_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20120418022000

1996-1999

http://s2.dmcdn.net/MCT1/x240-v3G.jpg

1997

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/8/8f/IL080.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20140104230756

(Final episode of season 1)

http://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/movie/movie_poster/pokemon-the-first-movie-1999/large_bBYGORculNGzHVRKmwtb4AQF3g6.jpg

1999

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/official-furby/images/4/48/Furby3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130311215159

1998

http://static-media.fxx.com/img/FX_Networks_-_FXX/953/938/Simpsons_11_11__658839.jpg

1999

I cannot be the only one who gets it.

All I was pointing out was that you can make the exact same argument for any other pair of years, hence why I did the same with 1989 and 2010 to show you.

Yes, but Back to the Future 3 and Gremlins 2 were not in theaters in '89. Those were the last ever sequels to those franchises.

Even if you bring up your "80s began in 1978 because of Star Wars Mania and Garfield" argument, you're forgetting that the first Harry Potter movie was not released until 2001, two years after your supposed starting point for the 2000s.

If not for the The Sorcerer's Stone reaching the top of the New York Times list of best-selling fiction in August 1999, the first Harry Potter movie would not have ever been in theaters.

Arbitrary, biased, associative logic.

Your opinion.

http://new2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/5060765+_874fb3a5167ddadfd038aa55a4724f6a.png

I think it's still too early to tell, but I'll go with 2008.  Boomers and Xers are still screwed up in the head about the crash of 2008.  It wouldn't surprise me to see that kids growing up and seeing their parents lose their homes and/or half their stock market wealth in the crash, wouldn't be similarly affected.

9 people combined for 2008 & 2009!

http://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2014/10/waiting-mr-burns.gif

8 people combined for 2008 & 2009!

http://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2014/10/waiting-mr-burns.gif


I'm sorry, but 2011 was the last year of the 2000s and the beginning of the 2010s.

Closure:

http://media.syracuse.com/news/photo/2011/05/nypost-bin-ladenjpg-aebfa5e81bd7d1d2.jpg

https://onemoviefiveviews.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/cars-2-poster.jpg

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New toys, TV shows, movie franchises and video game characters introduced in that year ('10s culture):

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/59/cd/e7/59cde7fa7f183ce908afeca0b876477e.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/American.horror.story.jpg

http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Rango.jpg

https://images-eds-ssl.xboxlive.com/image?url=8Oaj9Ryq1G1_p3lLnXlsaZgGzAie6Mnu24_PawYuDYIoH77pJ.X5Z.MqQPibUVTcRY.yavzo7nYP0X88I63UeJxs_ICOvM1iX20FQwMAmM_3uK9C8DKuAPscC6Uk431Vo7NayWIZsr8zJJwD7ODBg4GQLFohaQtZJuYtC0BBg_WNpaa16zNQAIzcf7O6N7GCgokRVt_e2p1jNKl_HMdS2nTlDvzmXB6hEOJ1i3iLdwY-&format=jpg

I'm sorry, but 2011 was the last year of the 2000s and the beginning of the 2010s.


You're referring to when the core 2010's began. We're not talking about when the core 2010's begin, we're talking about when 2010's culture started coming in. Read of the title of this thread, '10's culture, not the core '10's. There was already 2010's culture coming in by 2008/2009, plain and simple, despite there still being late 2000's culture at the time.

You're referring to when the core 2010's began. We're not talking about when the core 2010's begin, we're talking about when 2010's culture started coming in. Read of the title of this thread, '10's culture, not the core '10's. There was already 2010's culture coming in by 2008/2009, plain and simple, despite there still being late 2000's culture at the time.


Question: What are your thoughts on TV shows that premiered in 2008 and finished up in 2011?

I consider "Glee" to be the show that ushered in '10s-era television and that premiered in 2009.  There might be one I am missing, but most shows I can think of that premiered in 2008 have stronger ties to the late '00s than the '10s.

People are saying 2008 because of that damn stock market crash that year.  :D  :D

The '80s decade: We were living for the 1990s (1990-1999)
The '90s decade:  ''      ''      ''      ''    the 2000s (1999 - 2011)
The '00s decade:  ''      ''      ''      ''    the 2010s (2011 - ???)


What!?!?! 1999?

The 80's (1978/1979-1992)
The 90's (1993-2002/2003)
The 00's (2003/2004-2012)
The 10's (2008-present)

I think the 00's and 10's overlapped.

People are saying 2008 because of that damn stock market crash that year.  :D  :D


I'm saying 2008 because of Lady GaGa and Katy Perry, personally. I don't think the stock market affected pop culture much at all.

I'm saying 2008 because of Lady GaGa and Katy Perry, personally. I don't think the stock market affected pop culture much at all.


But then again, it wasn't like it was all electropop as soon as Just Dance hit the airwaves.  Kanye West released "Love Lockdown" at the same time and it was a very '00s sounding song.  The electropop sound didn't become dominant until the fall of 2009.

I think you may be right about the '00s and '10s overlapping.  In 2009 you could have been scene/emo or full hipster and you would have been fashionable either way.

I consider "Glee" to be the show that ushered in '10s-era television and that premiered in 2009.


I remember seeing Glee bookbags, DVDs, t-shirts, and games in stores back in 2011 and hearing that it jumped the shark then too.

The 2000s decade sowed the seeds for the 2010s, in my opinion.

There might be one I am missing, but most shows I can think of that premiered in 2008 have stronger ties to the late '00s than the '10s

That much is true. The Knight Rider remake from around that time did not survive into the 2010s at all. It's a 2000s show in my book.

But then again, it wasn't like it was all electropop as soon as Just Dance hit the airwaves.  Kanye West released "Love Lockdown" at the same time and it was a very '00s sounding song.  The electropop sound didn't become dominant until the fall of 2009.

I think you may be right about the '00s and '10s overlapping.  In 2009 you could have been scene/emo or full hipster and you would have been fashionable either way.


That song doesn't sound 00's to me. It sounds like something I'd hear in a smartphone commercial from this year. After giving it some thought, 2008-2012 was it's own era that feels more like this decade than the last.

What!?!?! 1999?

The 80's (1978/1979-1992)
The 90's (1993-2002/2003)
The 00's (2003/2004-2012)
The 10's (2008-present)

I think the 00's and 10's overlapped.


Law and Order: SUV and the Larry David: Curb Your Own Enthusiasm HBO special were both released in 1999.

After giving it some thought, 2008-2012 was it's own era that feels more like this decade than the last.


People were gearing up the early '10s (2011-2014) in the late '00s (2008-2011). 

Law and Order: SUV and Larry David: Curb Your Own Enthusiasm HBO special were both released in 1999.


What about That 70's Show, Charmed, Real World/Road Rules Challenge, and The Powerpuff girls in 1998? Those shows lasted until 2005/2006. Still don't think the 00's began until 2004.


People were gearing up the early '10s (2011-2014) in the late '00s (2008-2011).


Can't argue with that except the late 00's is 2008-2012 if anything.

You're referring to when the core 2010's began. We're not talking about when the core 2010's begin, we're talking about when 2010's culture started coming in. Read of the title of this thread, '10's culture, not the core '10's. There was already 2010's culture coming in by 2008/2009, plain and simple, despite there still being late 2000's culture at the time.


Honestly, it's not really even worth bothering to respond to TheEarly90sGuy at this point.  He's such a dogmatic decadeologist that he'll stop at nothing to convince you when every decade began and ended, even if it means relying on confirmation bias by hoarding photos and videos of isolated fads from 1978, 1990, 1999, and 2011 to make entire statements about entire periods with a hundred times more layers than he gives credit to, not all of which line up chronologically.  I tried responding to several of his posts before in the hope that, after enough debate, if he doesn't agree with others' opinions, at least tolerates and respects them, but the fact that he still condescendingly says things like "I'm sorry, but began in " and "You're looking at it all wrong. was the start of because that's when pop culture was leading to , here's proof: <several photos and videos of merchandise, TV openings, posters, etc. from specific year, popular or obscure>," it just implies that he comes here primarily for attention, for a feeling of superiority over those from younger generations.  He's pretty much been hammering down the same dogmas over and over again for some time, and it's getting quite tiring.  If you don't agree with his posts, then you should just let him be, because responding will just cause him to write down more of the same.