Feels like a dream, some of the craziest stuff happened between this time, I was thinking about how Lady Gaga was
like the Madonna of the late 2000s - early 2010s, I was thinking about Obama and how young he looked.  The neon
fashion at the time.  TAIO CRUZ lol  all the dance hits on the radio. KESHA lol  Like everything seems like a DREAM like
a dream we awoke from in 2013. Does anyone feel like this?

Oh yes, a whole different type of era. By late 2008 it felt like the 2010's decade had officially begun. Although still late 2000's culture though. Here's some photos from the time, and call me crazy, but I'm actually getting nostalgic for the pop culture of this time now when it comes to my early teen years to the beginning of my peak teen years. The pop culture since 2012 or 2013 has been completely bland af with very few exceptions though. I'm still enjoying sports every year though.

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I am in my 20s  so its not like I see this as my teen years,
but regardless this era was a dream fantasy land

Feels like a dream, some of the craziest stuff happened between this time, I was thinking about how Lady Gaga was
like the Madonna of the late 2000s - early 2010s, I was thinking about Obama and how young he looked.  The neon
fashion at the time.  TAIO CRUZ lol  all the dance hits on the radio. KESHA lol  Like everything seems like a DREAM like
a dream we awoke from in 2013. Does anyone feel like this?


I agree completely.  That was a very fun era in pop culture and in my opinion was the last pop culture era targeted towards Millennials.  In my opinion, it ended in the summer of 2012 when "Call Me Maybe" was the biggest song of the summer.  That was also the time of my life when I graduated college, got my first job, and began living on my own for the first time.  I moved from my small town in the Deep South to a large city on the east coast.  Everything about that era was exciting.

I agree completely.  That was a very fun era in pop culture and in my opinion was the last pop culture era targeted towards Millennials.  In my opinion, it ended in the summer of 2012 when "Call Me Maybe" was the biggest song of the summer.  That was also the time of my life when I graduated college, got my first job, and began living on my own for the first time.  I moved from my small town in the Deep South to a large city on the east coast.  Everything about that era was exciting.


That would be when I was halfway through high school :o making me feel like I'm on the cusp again when it comes to generations. Yeah, I noticed how the pop culture shifted throughout 2012-2013 school year in terms of what was relevant. New artists started coming out or becoming popular and Twitter got real popular at the time.

2009 and 2010 were horrible years for my personal life. But pop culturally it was kind of fun, I agree.

That would be when I was halfway through high school :o making me feel like I'm on the cusp again when it comes to generations. Yeah, I noticed how the pop culture shifted throughout 2012-2013 school year in terms of what was relevant. New artists started coming out or becoming popular and Twitter got real popular at the time.


Yeah definitely! I remember 2009-2010, 2010-2011, & 2011-2012 school years being the 'peak' of the electropop era when it came to music, fashion, politics, etc. 2012-2013, while not 100% 10's culture like today, was when things were transitioning. I remember the very beginning of that year still having that eletropop, Jersey Shore, iPod Touch, Dubstep Lady Gaga, feel to it. However by the end of the year, dubstep was transitioning into modern EDM, Lady Gaga became irrelevant, iPod Touches were a thing of the past and by then if you didn't have an iphone or Android you were probably seen as 'uncool', plus many iconic shows from that era like Jersey Shore & Teen Mom either ended or were fading from relevancy, and by then we were transitioning into the teeny bopper era of music we are in today.

I have to say it was its own era. Despite most of the electropop being awful, it was fun and catchy to listen to. I cant even tell you guys how many times I've listened to certain songs constantly  ;D. The fashion was so colorful that it was like a huge rainbow. the tech was transitioning from analog to digital. Furthermore, this was the last days when video games were diverse before FPS formula took over.


I agree completely.  That was a very fun era in pop culture and in my opinion was the last pop culture era targeted towards Millennials.  In my opinion, it ended in the summer of 2012 when "Call Me Maybe" was the biggest song of the summer.  That was also the time of my life when I graduated college, got my first job, and began living on my own for the first time.  I moved from my small town in the Deep South to a large city on the east coast.  Everything about that era was exciting.
I'm going have to agree with this. As of right now, the pop culture is on the Y/Z cusp with leaning towards the Z side. I feel that the culture will be fully Z by the 2017-18 or 2018-19 school year.

in my opinion was the last pop culture era targeted towards Millennials.


I disagree with that one. I think we are still in an era dominated by Millennials.

I disagree with that one. I think we are still in an era dimitated by Millennials.


Honestly I'm not so sure. Being a young Gen Yer I feel we are currently transitioning to the Z culture. I think we are currently in the same place when X culture was transitioning to Y culture in the year of 1999. 2015 is very similar, there has been a huge resurgence in teen pop which is definitely Z culture but there's still a few mature mainstream musicians that appeal to Y

Honestly I'm not so sure. Being a young Gen Yer I feel we are currently transitioning to the Z culture. I think we are currently in the same place when X culture was transitioning to Y culture in the year of 1999. 2015 is very similar, there has been a huge resurgence in teen pop which is definitely Z culture but there's still a few mature mainstream musicians that appeal to Y


I'd say the parallel is more like 2000. Both 2000 and 2015 have very prominent teenybopper pop culture trends, but both of them less so than their preceding year. Both 1999 and 2014 were more teenybopper and bubblegum than today.

This era sucked.  Thank you, Lady Gaga for destroying good music in the mainstream music and killing rock 'n' roll.  Now, we already got an idiot on here who is already defending this era.


People like what they like.  I could say "thank you Carly Rae Jepsen and Ariana Grande for killing good dance pop." 

This era sucked.  Thank you, Lady Gaga for destroying good music in the mainstream music and killing rock 'n' roll.  Now, we already got an idiot on here who is already defending this era.

You people on this forum are fake as fudge.  None of you have any real taste in music or culture or anything.  And you don't know anything about the 90's.  Because that was the last generation where people educated and gave a sheesh about something beside I-Phones, Social Media, memes, and the lasted flavor of the month bimbo pop star unlike this uneducated materialistic generation.    None of you millienials survive for a second in that decade.

Now this country is full of fat rich kid unfashionable hipster douchbags with no moral standards or intellect or anything.


I would survive in the '90s. I'm quite clever and resourceful compared to other kids my age. I also love '90s music and I rarely use social media.

I'd honestly be in heaven if this was 20 years ago. I have no need for all the useless technology taking over the world from the past decade, and since my general tastes would be much more in-line with everybody else, I would surely make friends a lot more easily.

I'd honestly be in heaven if this was 20 years ago. I have no need for all the useless technology taking over the world from the past decade, and since my general tastes would be much more in-line with everybody else, I would surely make friends a lot more easily.


Me too!!  :D

Late 2009-2012 era is so much cooler.  I mean come on.  You also had the 2007-2009 era, but that was so yesterday.  What about 1812-1815?  That was a cool period!

I'd say the parallel is more like 2000. Both 2000 and 2015 have very prominent teenybopper pop culture trends, but both of them less so than their preceding year. Both 1999 and 2014 were more teenybopper and bubblegum than today.


Nah, I'm going to have to agree to disagree. I think 2015 parallels 1999 more. 2014 didn't really become teenybopper until the end, just like when Britney Spears made her debut in October-ish of 1998. The only difference is the new princess of teen pop was a former country singer who slowly transitioned to pop. Also Justin Bieber and One Direction's new material sounds like the likes of NSYNC and Backstreet Boys in 1999. I can see 2016 paralleling 2000, especially since its an election year and if Jeb Bush gets elected after a recount in Florida as I predict. I've always seen a 16 year parallel. I really saw a parallel between 2008 and 1992, with Obama's campaign and election being similar to Bill Clinton; also between 2012 and 1996 with their reelections.


Late 2009-2012 era is so much cooler.

Yeah, I see those years grouped as a distinct era more than 2008-2011. 2008 for the most part fits with late 2005-2007.

TO the person who is saying I am defending this era
Im not defending this era  ( I dont even like it) MORON


I also worked for Vogue...........

Nah, I'm going to have to agree to disagree. I think 2015 parallels 1999 more. 2014 didn't really become teenybopper until the end, just like when Britney Spears made her debut in October-ish of 1998. The only difference is the new princess of teen pop was a former country singer who slowly transitioned to pop. Also Justin Bieber and One Direction's new material sounds like the likes of NSYNC and Backstreet Boys in 1999. I can see 2016 paralleling 2000, especially since its an election year and if Jeb Bush gets elected after a recount in Florida as I predict. I've always seen a 16 year parallel. I really saw a parallel between 2008 and 1992, with Obama's campaign and election being similar to Bill Clinton; also between 2012 and 1996 with their reelections.

Yeah, I see those years grouped as a distinct era more than 2008-2011. 2008 for the most part fits with late 2005-2007.


Actually, I'm pretty he was sarcastically warning that this thread is becoming too decadeologic, I guess because we've been comparing the late 2000s and early 2010s to different periods altogether?

Nah, I'm going to have to agree to disagree. I think 2015 parallels 1999 more. 2014 didn't really become teenybopper until the end, just like when Britney Spears made her debut in October-ish of 1998. The only difference is the new princess of teen pop was a former country singer who slowly transitioned to pop. Also Justin Bieber and One Direction's new material sounds like the likes of NSYNC and Backstreet Boys in 1999. I can see 2016 paralleling 2000, especially since its an election year and if Jeb Bush gets elected after a recount in Florida as I predict. I've always seen a 16 year parallel. I really saw a parallel between 2008 and 1992, with Obama's campaign and election being similar to Bill Clinton; also between 2012 and 1996 with their reelections.

Yeah, I see those years grouped as a distinct era more than 2008-2011. 2008 for the most part fits with late 2005-2007.



Late 2008 started the early 2010s tho

Late 2008 started the early 2010s tho


Exactly! '08, '09 and '10 were the very last years of the 2000s.

Look at the history of the Angry Birds for example:

https://iphonetech78.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/angry_birds_rage.png

In December of 2009,  the first Angry Birds game was first released for Apple's iOS.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bsDLNh9FPEw/TZJHYxT7QuI/AAAAAAAAAA4/fKIoLuET5F8/s1600/ABRED.jpg

The Angry Birds plush toys, shirts, and hats hit stores in 2011.

So there:

1978 (The turn of the 1980s) : Year of Star Wars Mania

1990 (The first year of the 1990s): Year of Turtlemania

1999 (The beginning of the 2000s): Year of Pokemania

2011 (The start of the 2010s) : Year of Angry Bird Mania

Exactly! '08, '09 and '10 were the very last years of the 2000s.

Look at the history of the Angry Birds for example:

https://iphonetech78.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/angry_birds_rage.png

In December of 2009,  the first Angry Birds game was first released for Apple's iOS.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bsDLNh9FPEw/TZJHYxT7QuI/AAAAAAAAAA4/fKIoLuET5F8/s1600/ABRED.jpg

The Angry Birds plush toys, shirts, and hats hit stores in 2011.

So there:

1978 (The turn of the 1980s) : Year of Star Wars Mania

1990 (The first year of the 1990s): Year of Turtlemania

1999 (The beginning of the 2000s): Year of Pokemania

2011 (The start of the 2010s) : Year of Angry Bird Mania


:D :D :D

Going to New York City back in Summer 2011 to see family for a whole week was one of the best moments of my personal life, we toured so many places, and going to the stores around Time Square and Manhattan seeing all the merchandise for Angry Birds at the time was pretty sick :o I was still addicted to Angry Birds at the time before I dazed off around early 2012, and as many have mentioned before the pop culture during the late 2008-2011 era was very colorful.

Late 2008 started the early 2010s tho


I don't think so. Many say so because of Barack Obama, but he didn't take office until Januray 2009. Also regarding Lady Gaga's debut, even though her album was released in 2008, her music didn't really hit the airwaves until early 2009. 2009 was more of her year with her hits "Just Dance", "Poker Face", and "Bad Romance".

About Angry Birds, that definitely was the Pac Man, Super Mario Bros., and Sonic the Hedgehog of that era.

I don't think so. Many say so because of Barack Obama, but he didn't take office until Januray 2009. Also regarding Lady Gaga's debut, even though her album was released in 2008, her music didn't really hit the airwaves until early 2009. 2009 was more of her year with her hits "Just Dance", "Poker Face", and "Bad Romance".

About Angry Birds, that definitely was the Pac Man, Super Mario Bros., and Sonic the Hedgehog of that era.


The pop culture icons of the 2010s (Walter White, Finn and Ty Burrell) were still springing up in 2008, 2009, and 2010. Minecraft (something we'll see more of in the 2020s) was released on the 8th of November in 2011. The 2010s began the moment our 2011 calendars went up.

I don't think so. Many say so because of Barack Obama, but he didn't take office until Januray 2009. Also regarding Lady Gaga's debut, even though her album was released in 2008, her music didn't really hit the airwaves until early 2009. 2009 was more of her year with her hits "Just Dance", "Poker Face", and "Bad Romance".

About Angry Birds, that definitely was the Pac Man, Super Mario Bros., and Sonic the Hedgehog of that era.


FALSE gaga was on TRL in 2008, and hip hop stations were playing her songs like KISS FM

Exactly! '08, '09 and '10 were the very last years of the 2000s.

Look at the history of the Angry Birds for example:

https://iphonetech78.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/angry_birds_rage.png

In December of 2009,  the first Angry Birds game was first released for Apple's iOS.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bsDLNh9FPEw/TZJHYxT7QuI/AAAAAAAAAA4/fKIoLuET5F8/s1600/ABRED.jpg

The Angry Birds plush toys, shirts, and hats hit stores in 2011.

So there:

1978 (The turn of the 1980s) : Year of Star Wars Mania

1990 (The first year of the 1990s): Year of Turtlemania

1999 (The beginning of the 2000s): Year of Pokemania

2011 (The start of the 2010s) : Year of Angry Bird Mania


I might agree with you on this one. Everything that was related to the pop culture of this decade started around 2011. Game of Thrones premiered, HBO rebranded and iPhones and iPads were getting popular. Along with having Regular Show and Adventure Time being everyone's favorite cartoons nowadays.

2010 was a 2000s year?  Not in the least.  Everything that represented the 2000s, including things strictly confined to the late 2000s, was obsolete by that point.  iPhones were now seriously popular, tablets were first released on the market, MySpace was no longer popular, and HD video was standard.  Obama was now on his second year in office and David Cameron replaced Gordon Brown as the Prime Minister of the UK.  Pop punk and post-grunge fell out of mainstream favor and electropop was fully established.  2000s icons like Usher and Rihanna were now recording straight-up electronic dance music.  For the most part, 2011 is not that different from 2010.

Just because you have "___mania" for one specific object of popular culture does not mean an entirely new decade begins overnight.  Angry Birds has not even been that popular for a few years now, not to mention it was originally released in 2009, even if it peaked in 2011.  Personally, I would argue that the most significant developments of 2011 were the onslaught of political occurrences in the Middle East, including the Arab Spring, crisis in Libya, death of Osama Bin Laden, and formal end to the Iraq War, but even those aren't enough to justify the beginning of an entirely new decade alone unless you're from the Middle East or have deep connections to the military.

I won't ramble on about this argument too much, since defining the boundaries of a decade's culture is a completely arbitrary process, but I still don't understand how you can hinge an entire greater era of popular culture as a whole on the popularity of one fad.  In the same way, it's pretty ridiculous to say the 80s began when Star Wars came out, especially since Saturday Night Fever was released roughly half a year after it hit theaters.  True, the Star Wars franchise has had a gigantic and everlasting impact on popular culture, but the point is the 70s did not die in 1978 just because everybody was talking about it; Jimmy Carter was only on his second year in office, disco peaked that year, and new wave only just started to attain mainstream attention towards the end of the year, not peaking until the early-mid 80s.

I'm nostalgic for 2008-2010 but not anything after 2010. Honestly, not much has changed since 2011. 2010 was the last year before I noticed any real change or difference from today.

I don't think so. Many say so because of Barack Obama, but he didn't take office until Januray 2009. Also regarding Lady Gaga's debut, even though her album was released in 2008, her music didn't really hit the airwaves until early 2009. 2009 was more of her year with her hits "Just Dance", "Poker Face", and "Bad Romance".

About Angry Birds, that definitely was the Pac Man, Super Mario Bros., and Sonic the Hedgehog of that era.

That is not true. Don't ask me how I remember this, but I strictly remembering hearing her song "Just Dance" on the radio in October-November of 2008 and asking "Who sings this?"

2010 was a 2000s year?  Not in the least.  Everything that represented the 2000s, including things strictly confined to the late 2000s, was obsolete by that point.  iPhones were now seriously popular, tablets were first released on the market, MySpace was no longer popular, and HD video was standard.  Obama was now on his second year in office and David Cameron replaced Gordon Brown as the Prime Minister of the UK.  Pop punk and post-grunge fell out of mainstream favor and electropop was fully established.  2000s icons like Usher and Rihanna were now recording straight-up electronic dance music.  For the most part, 2011 is not that different from 2010.

Just because you have "___mania" for one specific object of popular culture does not mean an entirely new decade begins overnight.  Angry Birds has not even been that popular for a few years now, not to mention it was originally released in 2009, even if it peaked in 2011.  Personally, I would argue that the most significant developments of 2011 were the onslaught of political occurrences in the Middle East, including the Arab Spring, crisis in Libya, death of Osama Bin Laden, and formal end to the Iraq War, but even those aren't enough to justify the beginning of an entirely new decade alone unless you're from the Middle East or have deep connections to the military.

I won't ramble on about this argument too much, since defining the boundaries of a decade's culture is a completely arbitrary process, but I still don't understand how you can hinge an entire greater era of popular culture as a whole on the popularity of one fad.  In the same way, it's pretty ridiculous to say the 80s began when Star Wars came out, especially since Saturday Night Fever was released roughly half a year after it hit theaters.  True, the Star Wars franchise has had a gigantic and everlasting impact on popular culture, but the point is the 70s did not die in 1978 just because everybody was talking about it; Jimmy Carter was only on his second year in office, disco peaked that year, and new wave only just started to attain mainstream attention towards the end of the year, not peaking until the early-mid 80s.


I agree 100%

2010 was a 2000s year?  Not in the least.  Everything that represented the 2000s, including things strictly confined to the late 2000s, was obsolete by that point.  iPhones were now seriously popular, tablets were first released on the market, MySpace was no longer popular, and HD video was standard.  Obama was now on his second year in office and David Cameron replaced Gordon Brown as the Prime Minister of the UK.  Pop punk and post-grunge fell out of mainstream favor and electropop was fully established.  2000s icons like Usher and Rihanna were now recording straight-up electronic dance music.  For the most part, 2011 is not that different from 2010.

Just because you have "___mania" for one specific object of popular culture does not mean an entirely new decade begins overnight.  Angry Birds has not even been that popular for a few years now, not to mention it was originally released in 2009, even if it peaked in 2011.  Personally, I would argue that the most significant developments of 2011 were the onslaught of political occurrences in the Middle East, including the Arab Spring, crisis in Libya, death of Osama Bin Laden, and formal end to the Iraq War, but even those aren't enough to justify the beginning of an entirely new decade alone unless you're from the Middle East or have deep connections to the military.

I won't ramble on about this argument too much, since defining the boundaries of a decade's culture is a completely arbitrary process, but I still don't understand how you can hinge an entire greater era of popular culture as a whole on the popularity of one fad.  In the same way, it's pretty ridiculous to say the 80s began when Star Wars came out, especially since Saturday Night Fever was released roughly half a year after it hit theaters.  True, the Star Wars franchise has had a gigantic and everlasting impact on popular culture, but the point is the 70s did not die in 1978 just because everybody was talking about it; Jimmy Carter was only on his second year in office, disco peaked that year, and new wave only just started to attain mainstream attention towards the end of the year, not peaking until the early-mid 80s.


I never said the '80s began the moment that Star Wars came out. You're putting words in my mouth now.

Everything that actually stayed in the '80s was introduced in the 1970s, it's a fact. Humanity was headed for the year 1990 from 1978 to December 31, 1989.

Here is some evidence to support my claim that '78 and '79 were the first two years of the 1980s.


https://comicsource.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ga780818.gif

The first Garfield strip was published on June 19, 1978.

https://theheylady.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/garfield2.jpg

Garfield merchandise was everywhere in the spring of 1990.

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The show Diff'rent Strokes first aired on NBC in the fall of 1978.

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Gary Coleman guest starred on 227 (in its NBC days) in January of 1990.

I never said the '80s began the moment that Star Wars came out. You're putting words in my mouth now.

You pretty much contradict that statement here:

Here is some evidence to support my claim that '78 and '79 were the first two years of the 1980s.

I didn't infer that you thought May 25, 1977 was the beginning of the 70s; my main point was that it wouldn't make sense to say that the 70s ended and 80s began in 1978 just because of Star Wars-mania.  1978 was also the year that disco was at its most popular, when guys wanted to be like John Travolta and women looked up to Donna Summer and Olivia Newton-John.  Star Wars may have set the stage for much of the popular culture that would emerge in the 1980s (same goes with the Atari 2600 and new wave, both of which also first emerged in 1977), but the dominant culture was very much still quintessentially 1970s.  Mania for Saturday Night Fever coexisted with mania for Star Wars.  I would accept arguments as early as late 1979 for the 70s ending and 80s beginning, since that's when disco truly died, video games became widespread, new wave was well-established, Rapper's Delight came out, and Russia invaded Afghanistan, but 1978 is way too early, even with the handful of elements that year that were ahead of their time.

https://comicsource.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ga780818.gif

The first Garfield strip was published on June 19, 1978.

https://theheylady.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/garfield2.jpg

Garfield merchandise was everywhere in the spring of 1990.

Garfield is pretty much in the same category as Star Wars, having first been introduced in the late 70s and been popular all of the 1980s, but still being relevant to this day.  I'd personally point to The Far Side as the quintessential comic of the 1980s, since it debuted literally on January 1, 1980, declined in the early 90s, and finally ended at the midway point through the 1990s.  While the strip is not as famous as Garfield, it still represents the 80s more directly.

Nah, I'm going to have to agree to disagree. I think 2015 parallels 1999 more. 2014 didn't really become teenybopper until the end, just like when Britney Spears made her debut in October-ish of 1998. The only difference is the new princess of teen pop was a former country singer who slowly transitioned to pop. Also Justin Bieber and One Direction's new material sounds like the likes of NSYNC and Backstreet Boys in 1999. I can see 2016 paralleling 2000, especially since its an election year and if Jeb Bush gets elected after a recount in Florida as I predict. I've always seen a 16 year parallel. I really saw a parallel between 2008 and 1992, with Obama's campaign and election being similar to Bill Clinton; also between 2012 and 1996 with their reelections.

Yeah, I see those years grouped as a distinct era more than 2008-2011. 2008 for the most part fits with late 2005-2007.
Who Taylor Swift? I know you aren't talking about Ariana Grande since she was never a country act.

FALSE gaga was on TRL in 2008, and hip hop stations were playing her songs like KISS FM
Yeah "Just Dance" was popular in late 2008.

Who Taylor Swift? I know you aren't talking about Ariana Grande since she was never a country act.

yes Taylor is who batfan was referring to!

You pretty much contradict that statement here:

I didn't infer that you thought May 25, 1977 was the beginning of the 70s; my main point was that it wouldn't make sense to say that the 70s ended and 80s began in 1978 just because of Star Wars-mania.  1978 was also the year that disco was at its most popular, when guys wanted to be like John Travolta and women looked up to Donna Summer and Olivia Newton-John.  Star Wars may have set the stage for much of the popular culture that would emerge in the 1980s (same goes with the Atari 2600 and new wave, both of which also first emerged in 1977), but the dominant culture was very much still quintessentially 1970s.  Mania for Saturday Night Fever coexisted with mania for Star Wars.  I would accept arguments as early as late 1979 for the 70s ending and 80s beginning, since that's when disco truly died, video games became widespread, new wave was well-established, Rapper's Delight came out, and Russia invaded Afghanistan, but 1978 is way too early, even with the handful of elements that year that were ahead of their time.

Garfield is pretty much in the same category as Star Wars, having first been introduced in the late 70s and been popular all of the 1980s, but still being relevant to this day.  I'd personally point to The Far Side as the quintessential comic of the 1980s, since it debuted literally on January 1, 1980, declined in the early 90s, and finally ended at the midway point through the 1990s.  While the strip is not as famous as Garfield, it still represents the 80s more directly.


Yes, but you are missing my point. The pop cultural institutions (CHiPs TV show, The Love Boat TV Show, The Little House on the Prairie TV show) that stayed in the actual 1980s years were introduced already by the time 1978 swung around.
So, basically, society was headed for 1990 the minute 1978 rolled around.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YiYT0s8v9tg/T7ewuuQlk2I/AAAAAAAABog/WY_JRxH0hj0/s1600/img452.jpg

In 1978, word got out that a Star Wars sequel (Empire Strikes Back) was on its way.

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In 1990, the first ever Star Wars trilogy box-set was sold in stores.

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In 1978, Kenner Star Wars figures were new to stores.

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Then, in 1990, exclusive Star Wars PVC figurines were released at Disney theme parks everywhere. Of course, they had a striking resemblance to the Kenner figures produced in the '70s. Coincidence, I think not!

Yes, but you are missing my point. The pop cultural institutions (CHiPs TV show, The Love Boat TV Show, The Little House on the Prairie TV show) that stayed in the actual 1980s years were introduced already by the time 1978 swung around.


But that doesn't mean the 80's began in 1978

But that doesn't mean the 80's began in 1978


First of all, do you know what the '80s were? Everything that came out of the actual '80s years was for the 1990s (specifically, the start of the year 1990). If 1978 never happened, there would not be any Diff'rent Strokes reruns playing on the FOX Network from 1990 to the fall of 1991 when The Montel Williams Show premiered; humanity would still be stuck in the 1970s.

So when do you believe the '80s began? Please don't say 1980. There are enough people that think inside the box on this planet.

I'm nostalgic for 2008-2010 but not anything after 2010. Honestly, not much has changed since 2011. 2010 was the last year before I noticed any real change or difference from today.


It seems that whatever people's views of the 2010s and how they correlate to the present, it always leads to my gut feeling of how 2016 is going to be very changeful. Considering that popular culture changes every 3-5 years, it makes sense that next year we will see something new. I really, REALLY hope that my hunch is true. It's time for a drastic change. I need something completely fresh, cutting-edge, and radically new and original.

First of all, do you know what the '80s were? Everything that came out of the actual '80s years was for the 1990s (specifically, the start of the year 1990). If 1978 never happened, there would not be any Diff'rent Strokes reruns playing on the FOX Network from 1990 to the fall of 1991 when The Montel Williams Show premiered; humanity would still be stuck in the 1970s.

So when do you believe the '80s began? Please don't say 1980. There are enough people that think inside the box on this planet.


Well I'll be honest I am not an expert on 80's culture. However if it were my guess it would be somewhere around 1981 or 1982. Reasons being is that Disco was pretty much dead at that point & New Wave was entering its peak, Reagan was now President and his trademark policy of Supply Side Economics were now in place, we were now in the peak of Star Wars Mania, 70's fashion evolved into 80's fashion around this time, MTV was launched, & we were at the peak in popularity of the Atari 2600. However I think there were still a bit of 70's influence as late as 1984, but at that point we were in the most part in the 80's, culturally wise

But that doesn't mean the 80's began in 1978


80's began on December 31st, 1979.

80's began on December 31st, 1979.
I would say the day after.

Yes, but you are missing my point. The pop cultural institutions (CHiPs TV show, The Love Boat TV Show, The Little House on the Prairie TV show) that stayed in the actual 1980s years were introduced already by the time 1978 swung around.
So, basically, society was headed for 1990 the minute 1978 rolled around.

What are you even trying to say, that anything produced in the 70s that still existed in some form during part of the 80s automatically counts as 80s culture?  The Little House on the Prairie television show premiered way back in 1974 (just one month after Nixon's resignation) and ended in early 1983, before most people even knew what hair metal and Madonna were.  CHiPS also ended in early 1983, like LHotP and the Star Wars Trilogy.  The Love Boat's run was confined more to the 80s than the 70s, but still it ended well before the decade's end, and certainly well before your arbitrary milestone of 1990.  I understand that some of these late 70s introductions were still frequently seen in stores by 1990, but that doesn't mean the year 1990 was like the climax of their popularity or when they suddenly died out.

If we're going by your definition, then the 90s must have begun in 1986, the moment Walk This Way climbed up the charts and also when the NES got a wide release in the United States.  Sure, the Cosby Show, Michael Jackson, Madonna, hair metal, new wave, etc. were all still completely in their peak, but since the seeds of the hip hop movement and Nintendo vs. Sega wars were planted, it must not have been the 80s anymore!  The 90s, I suppose, ended in 1995, when DVD's were first invented, PlayStation was introduced to America, pop punk and post-grunge was popular, and everybody was buying a Windows '95 and hooking up to the Internet, since all of those things "led up" to 2009.

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In 1978, word got out that a Star Wars sequel (Empire Strikes Back) was on its way.

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In 1990, the first ever Star Wars trilogy box-set was sold in stores.

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In 1978, Kenner Star Wars figures were new to stores.

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Then, in 1990, exclusive Star Wars PVC figurines were released at Disney theme parks everywhere. Of course, they had a striking resemblance to the Kenner figures produced in the '70s. Coincidence, I think not!


This is just a very contrived way of connecting 1978 with your favorite year in history.  If we're on the subject of Star Wars, what about things such as the Droids and Ewoks cartoons from 1985/1986, Star Tours's grand opening in 1987, or the Special Edition theatrical rereleases of the original Star Wars Trilogy in early 1997?  Or even the release of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace, whose hype would not have been possible without the original trilogy?

80's began on December 31st, 1979.


Dallas was already on the air by then.

80's began on December 31st, 1979.

Dallas was already on the air by then.
First broadcast on April 2nd 1978. (I was there!)

What are you even trying to say, that anything produced in the 70s that still existed in some form during part of the 80s automatically counts as 80s culture? 

Bingo! Everything produced in the '80s wasn't for the 1980s, you know. If that were the case then Jem (reruns were aired on USA Network in 1990), Miami Vice (last episode was shown on USA Network in 1990) and the NES (Super Mario Brothers 3 was first sold in North America on February 12, 1990) would have disappeared the minute 1990 came around. 

If we're going by your definition, then the 90s must have begun in 1986, the moment Walk This Way climbed up the charts and also when the NES got a wide release in the United States.  Sure, the Cosby Show, Michael Jackson, Madonna, hair metal, new wave, etc. were all still completely in their peak, but since the seeds of the hip hop movement and Nintendo vs. Sega wars were planted, it must not have been the 80s anymore!  The 90s, I suppose, ended in 1995, when DVD's were first invented, PlayStation was introduced to America, pop punk and post-grunge was popular, and everybody was buying a Windows '95 and hooking up to the Internet, since all of those things "led up" to 2009.

The '90s actually began the minute that 1990 rolled around. While we living in 1990, all of the following turned up: baggy jeans, Entertainment Weekly magazines, Cross Colors (one of the first ever hip-hop clothing lines), Law and Order and the world's first CD-based GPS car navigation system. So, '00s magazines, styles, shows and other items were introduced to us from the very minute the '90s started.

This is just a very contrived way of connecting 1978 with your favorite year in history.

Not at all.

How did this thread go from discussing the 2008-2011 era to talking about how the '70s turned into the '80s turned into the '90s?

How did this thread go from discussing the 2008-2011 era to talking about how the '70s turned into the '80s turned into the '90s?


Well, the discussion about Angry Birds Mania having started the true 2010s led to comparisons for previous decades, with Star Wars Mania in '78 marking the beginning of the 80s and Turtlemania marking the beginning of the 90s.  At this point, I'm not going to try to argue further, because this "culture produced in one decade is always for the next decade" logic is making my head spin.  It's one thing to focus on the dominant trends of the moment, but it's totally another to define a decade's boundaries based solely on the existence of things that would still be popular two decades later.

I didn't have a smartphone in 2010 but was angry birds that big? No way that it is comparable to the Pokemon craze of 1999 for example.

I didn't have a smartphone in 2010 but was angry birds that big? No way that it is comparable to the Pokemon craze of 1999 for example.


Angry Birds was significant, but you are right, it wasn't near as big as the 1999 Pokemon sensation.  Words with Friends was also a big deal back during that era.

I'd argue that Angry Birds were roughly as popular in 2011 as Pokemon was in 1999, but that the latter felt larger, due to having a much more extensive universe and line of products. Whereas Angry Birds was little more than a popular phone app with some generic spin-off merchandise, Pokemon was a gigantic franchise with 151 different identifiable creatures, plus an extremely popular anime and card game complimenting the original games. Angry Birds is more similar to Pac-Man in its period of fame, having only spawned one major title, plus a few re-skinnings, but falling off very quickly afterwards. Although the advent of Yu-Gi-Oh! in 2001 effectively killed off Pokemania, the Pokemon franchise has still managed to remain extremely successful to this day thanks to its extensive merchandising empire and diverse array of spin-off games and new generations of creatures.

How did this thread go from discussing the 2008-2011 era to talking about how the '70s turned into the '80s turned into the '90s?


TheEarly90sGuy probably thought it was a good idea, since he was really into the 90s.

TheEarly90sGuy probably thought it was a good idea, since he was really into the 90s.

He's mainly an early 90s guy! ;)  He's not a big of a fan of the mid-late 90s.

He's mainly an early 90s guy! ;)  He's not a big of a fan of the mid-late 90s.


He's especially in love with the year 1990, in particular.

He's especially in love with the year 1990, in particular.
This. Every-time he talks about the early 90s, that year is mentioned often. Moreover, whenever any of us even speak about that time period, he calls us out and say we're wrong and put his opinions as facts. I'm sure everyone has their own perspective of the early 90s and they're definitely not going by Early90sGuy's logic either.


He's mainly an early 90s guy! ;)  He's not a big of a fan of the mid-late 90s.
Or the 2000s and today. He basically despises everything 1993 and after.

He's especially in love with the year 1990, in particular.


I'm sorry you missed out.

The '80s decade was leading up to the 'most excellent' year 1990 all along, so,yes, it is one of the most important years of the 20th Century.  Everything came full circle in that year.


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Yeah, 1990 was kind of a big deal.

This. Every-time he talks about the early 90s, that year is mentioned often.

The '90s: A time when humanity was slowly leaving 1990 (thought of as the '80s on steriods from one of my friends) and getting to 1999.

  1999



Moreover, whenever any of us even speak about that time period, he calls us out and say we're wrong and put his opinions as facts.


How can you know about that time period when you weren't even of age to see it for what it was?