Anyone get the feeling 2010 is getting dated rather quickly ? Hipster hats , 80s neon, emo fads still lingering. Dance pop peaked in 2010 as well.

I can sense that we're starting to inch away from 2010, but I wouldn't call it "dated."

Nope i haven't noticed it. It's not showing age imo.

Yes, 2010 is definetly retro already.  ::)

Good old times. 2010 was the real last old school year, amiright? ::)

2010 seems more or less equal to 2012 pop culturally.

2010 seems more or less equal to 2012 pop culturally.


exactly

I also want to add that it's strange that 2012 still  doesn't feels similar to 2010 imo , but 10 years ago around this time, 2002 was vastly different  than 2000. I  guess it was due to everything that was happening like pop culture, 9/11, ect.

I can sense that we're starting to inch away from 2010, but I wouldn't call it "dated."


I still feel its kinda of not like Corney like 1990 was to 1996  but like  it just seems dated

2010 was 2 years ago, It is not showing it's age.

2010 seems more or less equal to 2012 pop culturally.


Yep. I personally don't see much of a difference between now and 2012.

Anyone get the feeling 2010 is getting dated rather quickly ? Hipster hats , 80s neon, emo fads still lingering. Dance pop peaked in 2010 as well.

80s neon is bigger than ever in my area in 2012, much more so than 2010. Dance pop and dance rap is all that's on the radio right now. As for emo, the last big year for emo was 2008. It wasn't really around in 2010.

It seems dated because 2010 was more alot similar to 2009 pop-culture-wise than 2011. 2011 seemed to be one of those big culture leaps where the year before it was one era and the next year it was another.

Anyone get the feeling 2010 is getting dated rather quickly ? Hipster hats , 80s neon, emo fads still lingering. Dance pop peaked in 2010 as well.


Those are all still in style. They're more popular if anything.

Emo was already long gone by 2010.

Music is slightly different. "pure" pop is starting to replace dance-pop, less rap, and dubstep and indie rock have gained more popularity with the top 40 crowd.

It seems dated because 2010 was more alot similar to 2009 pop-culture-wise than 2011. 2011 seemed to be one of those big culture leaps where the year before it was one era and the next year it was another.



^^^ THIS is what i am thinking

2008 might be a little dated, but not so much 2010.

No, not even, the 2000's and 2010's will be known in the future as a period of stagnantion.  There was more growth and technology during the 80's and 90's, then the 00's and 10's.  2000's and 2010's are just swampy and lame if you ask me.  ;D

No, not even, the 2000's and 2010's will be known in the future as a period of stagnantion. 


Yes, stagnation.  ::) Just because 2010 looks equal to 2012, it does not mean that the whole decade 'got stuck'.

It's maybe not the fashion and music style that has changed that much during the last 12 years, but technology made a big jump. I have just watched an old VHS from 2000 with commercials and it's still kind of unbelievable that a year that starts with 2XXX can seem that old. Especially when it came to cell phone commercials or computer and internet commercials.

Yes, stagnation.  ::) Just because 2010 looks equal to 2012, it does not mean that the whole decade 'got stuck'.

It's maybe not the fashion and music style that has changed that much during the last 12 years, but technology made a big jump. I have just watched an old VHS from 2000 with commercials and it's still kind of unbelievable that a year that starts with 2XXX can seem that old. Especially when it came to cell phone commercials or computer and internet commercials.



2010 just seems different  NOT THAT MUCH but like  it seems old.  This is because i feel the 2010s mid decade coming  the changes are already starting  neo 60s indie pop  taking over and dance pop fading  (it is) if you ever go on youtube videos you will notice ppl will say same old sheesh this is enough of this etcccccc etccccccccc.  Timbaland the man who started this Dance Pop trend with Sexy back  said in a 2012 interview  dance pop has gone out of control with dubstep  its becoming all the same.

2010 just seems different  NOT THAT MUCH but like  it seems old.  This is because i feel the 2010s mid decade coming  the changes are already starting  neo 60s indie pop  taking over and dance pop fading  (it is) if you ever go on youtube videos you will notice ppl will say same old sheesh this is enough of this etcccccc etccccccccc.  Timbaland the man who started this Dance Pop trend with Sexy back  said in a 2012 interview  dance pop has gone out of control with dubstep  its becoming all the same.


In a '10 interview Timbaland claims to have "invented" dubstep and he seemed to have a positive opinion about it.

In a '10 interview Timbaland claims to have "invented" dubstep and he seemed to have a positive opinion about it.


go to his 2012 interview he bashes Skrillex and deadmau

Yes, stagnation.  ::) Just because 2010 looks equal to 2012, it does not mean that the whole decade 'got stuck'.

It's maybe not the fashion and music style that has changed that much during the last 12 years, but technology made a big jump. I have just watched an old VHS from 2000 with commercials and it's still kind of unbelievable that a year that starts with 2XXX can seem that old. Especially when it came to cell phone commercials or computer and internet commercials.


I agree,  but compare the differences between 1980 - 1989, then 1990 - 1999, then 2000 - 2009.  That's why I think there hasn't been much innovation during the 00's period. 

I agree,  but compare the differences between 1980 - 1989, then 1990 - 1999, then 2000 - 2009.  That's why I think there hasn't been much innovation during the 00's period.

Are you kidding? It felt like technology moved at warp speed in the 00s. The technological differences between 1980 and 1989 were much less than the technological differences between 2000 and 2009. HDTV, more digital cable, YouTube, Social Networking sites, faster internet speeds, iPhones, and iPads is not a rise in technology? The internet was much different in 2004 and before vs. 2005 and later. In 2003 and before I used VHS and in 2004 and earlier I analog cable. iPods were another invention in the 00s. What about how Nintendo 64 was used in 2000 but Nintendo wii was used in the late 00s?

80s neon is bigger than ever in my area in 2012, much more so than 2010. Dance pop and dance rap is all that's on the radio right now. As for emo, the last big year for emo was 2008. It wasn't really around in 2010.



When you keep hearing things like ALRIGHT enough of this dance pop  ughhhh everything sounds the same on facebook posts  you know its on its last legs.  Thats another reason why i feel 2010 seems old.  Its like  2010 was the peak of dance pop it was still fresh. Teen pop from 98-2001  was pretty much buried by 2002    dance pops lifespan  has been just about 5 years now        if you wanna count the 2006 era ( Sexy back )  7 years  so this  trend has been going on for  7 years  its about time .

I agree,  but compare the differences between 1980 - 1989, then 1990 - 1999, then 2000 - 2009.  That's why I think there hasn't been much innovation during the 00's period.


The '00s is decade the internet and social media both came into their own, the sheer implementation of the information technology throughout society in the '00s was astonishing to say the least. I think most people have the opinion technology moved at an exponential speed between '00 and '09, broadband usage in the US went from only 6 percent in 2000 to over 80 percent in 2007!

The decade is almost defined by technology.

Those are all still in style. They're more popular if anything.

Emo was already long gone by 2010.

Music is slightly different. "pure" pop is starting to replace dance-pop, less rap, and dubstep and indie rock have gained more popularity with the top 40 crowd.


and don't forget stupid auto-tune.

Are you kidding? It felt like technology moved at warp speed in the 00s. The technological differences between 1980 and 1989 were much less than the technological differences between 2000 and 2009. HDTV, more digital cable, YouTube, Social Networking sites, faster internet speeds, iPhones, and iPads is not a rise in technology? The internet was much different in 2004 and before vs. 2005 and later. In 2003 and before I used VHS and in 2004 and earlier I analog cable. iPods were another invention in the 00s. What about how Nintendo 64 was used in 2000 but Nintendo wii was used in the late 00s?


Look at the 90's for example.  The technology during the 90's went from pre-windows technology, to the first version of windows to windows 98. No one having internet access in 1990 to becoming a regular thing towards 1999.  The 80's video game technology went from 4 bit to 8/16 bit.  Not to mention the numerous fresh ideas, innovations, and fads that emerged during that time period.  The 00's really expanded upon existing technology and improved it,  almost everyone had access to the internet in 2000, and almost everyone has it now.  It's simply building upon things that were already around since the late 90's and improving upon them.  What did the 00's have to offer?  Look at autotune - 90's thing, dubstep - a form of drum and bass, faster internet speeds - around in the 90's, i-phones - we had cell phones and internet in the prior to that just combined them together. To me anyone who says the 00's were such a hugely technological decade needs to rethink there assesment of the decade.

The '00s is decade the internet and social media both came into their own, the sheer implementation of the information technology throughout society in the '00s was astonishing to say the least. I think most people have the opinion technology moved at an exponential speed between '00 and '09, broadband usage in the US went from only 6 percent in 2000 to over 80 percent in 2007!

The decade is almost defined by technology.


I agree, there is alot more access to technology now then there was in the early 00's.  But is that really considered technological?

Are you kidding? It felt like technology moved at warp speed in the 00s. The technological differences between 1980 and 1989 were much less than the technological differences between 2000 and 2009. HDTV, more digital cable, YouTube, Social Networking sites, faster internet speeds, iPhones, and iPads is not a rise in technology? The internet was much different in 2004 and before vs. 2005 and later. In 2003 and before I used VHS and in 2004 and earlier I analog cable. iPods were another invention in the 00s. What about how Nintendo 64 was used in 2000 but Nintendo wii was used in the late 00s?


I agree that was something new and cool about the 00's.

Look at the 90's for example.  The technology during the 90's went from pre-windows technology, to the first version of windows to windows 98. No one having internet access in 1990 to becoming a regular thing towards 1999.  The 80's video game technology went from 4 bit to 8/16 bit.  Not to mention the numerous fresh ideas, innovations, and fads that emerged during that time period.  The 00's really expanded upon existing technology and improved it,  almost everyone had access to the internet in 2000, and almost everyone has it now.  It's simply building upon things that were already around since the late 90's and improving upon them.  What did the 00's have to offer?  Look at autotune - 90's thing, dubstep - a form of drum and bass, faster internet speeds - around in the 90's, i-phones - we had cell phones and internet in the prior to that just combined them together. To me anyone who says the 00's were such a hugely technological decade needs to rethink there assesment of the decade.


Every decade is a improvement on previous time periods or downright revivals(from tech to music to fashion), what you said really means nothing, the internet was created in the late '60s, I guess that's a "'60s" thing(by your logic). For instance, you think broad shoulder pads is '80s, think again, that was a '40s fashion staple for women, large collars from the '40s were brought back in the '70s. How the heck is dubstep, the popular brostep version, a form of drum and bass, that's a pretty ignorant thing to say, the wobble bass thing wasn't even created until around 2005/2006 at the earliest, that stuff is actually closer to glitch music and screamo than to drum and bass(Skrillex is a former emo himself), very very few things you recognized as '90s were created in the '90s.

and don't forget stupid auto-tune.


Trust me  Neo 60s is happening

Look at the 90's for example.  The technology during the 90's went from pre-windows technology, to the first version of windows to windows 98. No one having internet access in 1990 to becoming a regular thing towards 1999. 


Look at the 00's:

-2000: A human being was happy to have his bulky desktop PC and to be online (wired) that normal for everybody]
-2009: A human being is only happy if he can go online with his 5" smartphone on the subway.

-2000: cell-phones were mostly black and white or green and white (graphics like 'small' 80's computers)
-2009: cell-phones are nearly exactly like your desktop pc and more poweful than any consumer pc that came out in the early 2000's.

...and I don't want to start discussing about memory cards and harddisks.

That are HUGE develeopments. We just don't feel them that much, because most results od that development can only be seen digitally and are not 'real'.

Trust me  Neo 60s is happening


What's neo-60's?  ???

What's neo-60's?  ???


neo 60s is    the 60s part 2

Every decade is a improvement on previous time periods or downright revivals(from tech to music to fashion), what you said really means nothing, the internet was created in the late '60s, I guess that's a "'60s" thing(by your logic). For instance, you think broad shoulder pads is '80s, think again, that was a '40s fashion staple for women, large collars from the '40s were brought back in the '70s. How the heck is dubstep, the popular brostep version, a form of drum and bass, that's a pretty ignorant thing to say, the wobble bass thing wasn't even created until around 2005/2006 at the earliest, that stuff is actually closer to glitch music and screamo than to drum and bass(Skrillex is a former emo himself), very very few things you recognized as '90s were created in the '90s.


In bold - False - blanket statement.

I never implied that the internet, my loose term of the world wide web (www) was a 60's thing.  That is what you are saying I would say, to try to discredit what I say. 

Also shoulder pads have been around during different periods, but the 40's and 50's look was completely different than the 80's.

Dubstep - Dubstep takes a direct influence from Drum and Bass, the themes, drum styles (not to get to technical) all sound genetically simliar to me, dub step is slower and tries to infuse different things, but the affect/sound pattern, etc is initiallly the same to me. The wobble bass thing existed in Drum and Bass before as well.  I have no idea what glitch and screamo music is but if I hear that I will comment on it.

Auto-tune tech in songs was first implemented during in the 90s, with Cher "Believe".

Well if you want to have a discussion about technologies, when they are developed and when they are just an idea or in complete primitive form we can discuss that too.  Alot of inventions started with a root, ie, gun power tea, etc to even computers and electronics.  But it would be foolish of me to say, well the helicopter is a 1480s thing because the first designs were made then.  Because I truly don't believe that, and would never say anything that idiotic.

I still stand by what I say, unless you have something substantial to counter what I said.  I have no problem admitting I'm wrong and won't get defensive. 

In bold - False - blanket statement.

I never implied that the internet, my loose term of the world wide web (www) was a 60's thing.  That is what you are saying I would say, to try to discredit what I say. 

Also shoulder pads have been around during different periods, but the 40's and 50's look was completely different than the 80's.

Dubstep - Dubstep takes a direct influence from Drum and Bass, the themes, drum styles (not to get to technical) all sound genetically simliar to me, dub step is slower and tries to infuse different things, but the affect/sound pattern, etc is initiallly the same to me. The wobble bass thing existed in Drum and Bass before as well.  I have no idea what glitch and screamo music is but if I hear that I will comment on it.

Auto-tune tech in songs was first implemented during in the 90s, with Cher "Believe".

Well if you want to have a discussion about technologies, when they are developed and when they are just an idea or in complete primitive form we can discuss that too.  Alot of inventions started with a root, ie, gun power tea, etc to even computers and electronics. But it would be foolish of me to say, well the helicopter is a 1480s thing because the first designs were made then.  Because I truly don't believe that, and would never say anything that idiotic.

I still stand by what I say, unless you have something substantial to counter what I said.  I have no problem admitting I'm wrong and won't get defensive.


You just said autotune was a '90s thing even though it didn't become a recognized trend until the late '00s, it will mostly be associated with the late '00s-present(oh I forgot, you have a completely different standard when judging the '00s/'10s don't cha). For instance, the gated drum effect mostly associated with the late '80s was first "implemented" in the late '70s by artists like Davie Bowie. You are just plain inaccurate about the bass wobble effect, that effect was not created until 2005/2006, make up stuff if you want(better yet, post a '90s/early '00s song with the wobble bass effect), earlier dubstep was influenced by jungle and UK garage but it became it's own underground scene by the mid '00s, for example, let's compare a '90s drum n bass song to a '10s dubstep/brostep song:


made in '95
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHF5furPFzE

made in '10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIyE3EDCigE

made in '12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjHy2W1fLIU

sounds pretty different to me.

Auto-tune tech in songs was first implemented during in the 90s, with Cher "Believe".


I agree it started in 1998.

In bold - False - blanket statement.

Auto-tune tech in songs was first implemented during in the 90s, with Cher "Believe".



You..didn't happen to get that bit of information from that "Know You're Meme" video, did you? That would make you the third person I'd have to correct. Cher's 1998 single was the first single to use auto-voice correction to purposely make the voice sound weird, instead of secretly using it just to fix slightly off singing, as it had been for many years before. "Believe" neither started the technology or started the trend of using it.

You..didn't happen to get that bit of information from that "Know You're Meme" video, did you? That would make you the third person I'd have to correct. Cher's 1998 single was the first single to use auto-voice correction to purposely make the voice sound weird, instead of secretly using it just to fix slightly off singing, as it had been for many years before. "Believe" neither started the technology or started the trend of using it.


Autotune was first introduced in 1997 to pitch correct vocals without anyone noticing, in 1998, one of Cher's engineers accidentally warped her vocals and she decided to keep it that way. Eiffel 65 is the only other band in the late '90s to use autotune and a few select songs from the early '00s, it didn't become a huge pop cultural trend until T Pain started radically warping his vocals with it, it spread first into R&B and hip-hop then in '08 with the explosion of electropop/EDM. New music sounds and effects generally don't become major trends right away(like elr might think), it takes a while(maybe 8-10 years) before it becomes ubiquitous in popular music, like the synth was introduced in pop music in the late '60s but it took until the late '70s/early '80s before it became a dominant trend in popular music.

Cher's been around so long, she's been around since the mid-60s!  :o :o

Autotune was first introduced in 1997 to pitch correct vocals without anyone noticing, in 1998, one of Cher's engineers accidentally warped her vocals and she decided to keep it that way. Eiffel 65 is the only other band in the late '90s to use autotune and a few select songs from the early '00s, it didn't become a huge pop cultural trend until T Pain started radically warping his vocals with it, it spread first into R&B and hip-hop then in '08 with the explosion of electropop/EDM. New music sounds and effects generally don't become major trends right away(like elr might think), it takes a while(maybe 8-10 years) before it becomes ubiquitous in popular music, like the synth was introduced in pop music in the late '60s but it took until the late '70s/early '80s before it became a dominant trend in popular music.


Okay, one year earlier not "many", my bad. I'm just tired of people calling "Believe" the "origin of autotune" just because of some video put out by an internet meme database.

I'd argue with elr's actual argument but I have no idea what the fudge he/she is saying anymore.

Autotune was first introduced in 1997 to pitch correct vocals without anyone noticing, in 1998, one of Cher's engineers accidentally warped her vocals and she decided to keep it that way. Eiffel 65 is the only other band in the late '90s to use autotune and a few select songs from the early '00s, it didn't become a huge pop cultural trend until T Pain started radically warping his vocals with it, it spread first into R&B and hip-hop then in '08 with the explosion of electropop/EDM. New music sounds and effects generally don't become major trends right away(like elr might think), it takes a while(maybe 8-10 years) before it becomes ubiquitous in popular music, like the synth was introduced in pop music in the late '60s but it took until the late '70s/early '80s before it became a dominant trend in popular music.


I was going to say it was around longer than that with Zapp and Roger (Computer Love), but then I looked it up and found out they used something called a "talk box", which is slightly different from autotune. I learned something new about the history of music.

2010 still seems very similar to 2012 to me. But things are slowly changing. It still feels the same though as we are in the 2008-2012 era.

Autotune was invented in the 90s - that's it. Autotune was widely used and became a fad (and when people think of autotune) in the late 00s/Early 10's so far.

I was so 'out of it' and in my cave since 2007, that I can't tell you the difference between 2007 and 2012!  ;D

The technological differences between 1980 and 1989 were much less than the technological differences between 2000 and 2009.


I have to disagree with you there.  Unless you're using a Mac, you're still using the IBM PC.  If you can find a floppy drive, a DOS 3.3 floppy will boot your PC and turn it into a very fast (literally about a million times faster - 4.77 MHz clock vs. multiple cores in the GHz range) version of a computer that existed in 1981.

Thing is, in 1981, it was extraordinarly rare for a home to have a computer at all.  (If you factor in 30 years of inflation, a computer of the class of the PC cost between $5000-10000 in today's dollars.  Until the TRS-80, VIC-20, and C-64 came out a year or so later, computers were effectively prohibited from the lower class, a big stretch for the middle class, and still rare in the upper class.)  By the end of the decade, it was uncommon for a home not to have a computer. 

The personal computing revolution (to be precise, the time period from around 1977-1984 - marking the time between the introduction of the Apple ][ and the Apple Macintosh, which was the first prosumer-level machine to feature a windows/icons/mouse/pointer-based GUI), upon which everything else was built.

People who see differences between years that are just gone, must be very young.

By the end of the decade, it was uncommon for a home not to have a computer. 


If I am looking at my environment - mid class - I wouldn't say it was uncommon not to have computer. It was maybe more common than at the beginning of the 80's, but even in the 90's, a computer was a very special thing to have. Nearly no one of my friends had one at home before the late 90's.

If I am looking at my environment - mid class - I wouldn't say it was uncommon not to have computer. It was maybe more common than at the beginning of the 80's, but even in the 90's, a computer was a very special thing to have. Nearly no one of my friends had one at home before the late 90's.


and the only way families communicated back in the 80's were via pen and paper and today in 2012 you can connect with someone via Email, Skype Facebook and Twitter.

and the only way families communicated back in the 80's were via pen and paper and today in 2012 you can connect with someone via Email, Skype Facebook and Twitter.


Well, don't know about you...but we already had phones in the 80s. ::) :D ;)

People who see differences between years that are just gone, must be very young.


i am 24

Well, don't know about you...but we already had phones in the 80s. ::) :D ;)


I was referring to before twitter, skype and face to face conversations via computer.

Not really, tbh I can barely tell a difference between mid-2012 and late 2008.

The only difference I'd say is that in 2010, it still felt like there was a chance a really cool/interesting revolution would happen in pop culture. Now unfortunately, I feel pretty certain little will change until at least the 2020s.

I also want to add that it's strange that 2012 still  doesn't feels similar to 2010 imo , but 10 years ago around this time, 2002 was vastly different  than 2000. I  guess it was due to everything that was happening like pop culture, 9/11, ect.


Hmmmm I wouldn't say 2002 was VASTLY different, but it was noticeably different. Because 2000 was still quite nineties, 2002 was '90s-based' still but had a different vibe.

BTW emo is not dead, I went to Warped Tour a couple of weeks ago. Emo kids and scene hair everywhere. But it's declined a bit and many people have grown out of it.

2007 is definitely dated. You can say the same for even 2008 probably. 2010 may slowly start showing it's age but it will be more different around 2013/2014 when I believe things will really hit and become different.

It normally takes around four years for a year to start to feel a bit dated. Twitter was around in 2008 for instance, but it was 2009 that it became a household word. You can say the same with 3DTVs, Tablets, and of course the iPad, plus 2008 was the last full year in the US were TV was still being broadcast over the air, and there were noticeably more non-HD TV shows that year than even in 2009 with the mandatory switch. And of course, that symbol you see (basically the bar code consisting of little black and white squares) was practically non-existant on packaging (honestly 2010 was the year that became noticeable). In respect, I'd say that 2009 is the oldest year that still can fit in with the present. This was also before electric vehicles and car-sharing services became popular as well. But for now, I'd consider 2010 "clearance stuff."

For me, halfway 2008-now is almost exactly the same (popculture/fashionwise), except tiny details.  ::)

And in my environment, I don't see much signs of people getting tired of autotune/electropop music. The people complaining on the web about too much of it, are often people who have always hated it (like myself...).

The first half of 2008 feels different to me, like it was the last part of the 'real' 00s.

The first half of 2008 feels different to me, like it was the last part of the 'real' 00s.


Technically, we are still in the 'real' 00s because apperently a new era doesn't come til' a few years after the decade began (Ex. 1993, 2003...)  :P I just don't think this is what the 10s have in store for us.  :D

I don't see what people find THE SAME about the late 2000's and now.

Could someone explain. :-\\

I don't see what people find THE SAME about the late 2000's and now.

Could someone explain. :-\\


The fashion trends are almost identical from what I can tell.

And then pop music hasn't really changed much between 2008 and 2012. Most successful 2008 artists are still very big today. A bit more of an indie rock flavor to 2012 but I wouldn't call it a big change yet. 

We also have the same president, the same stagnant global economy, and very similar technology compared to what we had in 2009.

Really I'm having a hard time noticing many major cultural differences back to late 2008. Like others have said, early 2008 and before is when you can actually start to identify them.

Technically, we are still in the 'real' 00s because apperently a new era doesn't come til' a few years after the decade began (Ex. 1993, 2003...)  :P I just don't think this is what the 10s have in store for us.  :D


Technically, we are in a transitional era between the 00s and 10s. I agree the transitional era started in 2008. We aren't in the true 00s because the feel of today is nothing like 2005 or 2006.

The fashion trends are almost identical from what I can tell.

And then pop music hasn't really changed much between 2008 and 2012. Most successful 2008 artists are still very big today. A bit more of an indie rock flavor to 2012 but I wouldn't call it a big change yet. 

We also have the same president, the same stagnant global economy, and very similar technology compared to what we had in 2009.

Really I'm having a hard time noticing many major cultural differences back to late 2008. Like others have said, early 2008 and before is when you can actually start to identify them.


You're right about the politics being the same, and I guess you're probably right about fashion too; most of the major fashion changes just turned out to be short unimportant fads.

Music is sure different though. Its similar, but in 2008, particularily for music by men, R&B was R&B and dance was dance, and most dance music was still minimalist eighties-type stuff.  Now pop hits are all super-melody trance tunes with strings and accordians and saxaphones...

Maybe I'm seeing things in the big picture and not looking at average people. That could explain why I see things so differently than other users. Most of my observations are based on advertising or music.

Technically, we are still in the 'real' 00s because apperently a new era doesn't come til' a few years after the decade began (Ex. 1993, 2003...)  :P I just don't think this is what the 10s have in store for us.  :D


So you mean the next one would be 2013?  ???

So you mean the next one would be 2013?  ???

Yes, But like someone said, we are technically in a transitional era. We won't know for sure what decade today will identify more with until the future but it's usually the decade before it.

How do you know that we are in a transitional era if you don't know where the transition leads to?

How do you know that we are in a transitional era if you don't know where the transition leads to?


we got hints

Yes, But like someone said, we are technically in a transitional era. We won't know for sure what decade today will identify more with until the future but it's usually the decade before it.


Well,We don't know yet until a few years from now.

The only difference would be 2010 still had more rap music and leftovers of things that were popular in the early 2000s.

Anyone who doesn't see the vast cultural difference between 2002 and 2012 is blind. And please stop making statements like "we're in a transitional era right now," because we are always in a transitional era. There is no before and after. Pick any two years for comparison and everything in between is a transitional phase. Some people on this board ought to seriously reconsider how they analyze pop culture trends.

The biggest difference between 2002 and 2012 is that everything was just so much uglier back then. Cars were uglier, phones were uglier, clothes were uglier, movies and TV shows looked uglier, etc. There is definitely an aesthetic to that era, and over the course of the 2000s the trend was to make everything sleeker and nicer looking. Take a look at the evolution of the iPod. Aesthetics in 2012 are much more refined than they were 10 years ago.

It has been a gradual evolution, it always has been and it always will be. 2010 wasn't that much different than 2012, but neither was 2002 from 2000, or 1992 from 1990, 1982 from 1980, and so on. And 2014 won't be that much different than 2012.

And by the way just take a minute and ask yourself what criteria it is you use to measure change? Is it clothes? music? technology? Because the essence of clothes haven't changed since the 1950s. Shirts, pants, and hats. Music hasn't changed since the 1950s. There hasn't been a radical restructuring of pop music or any development akin to what classical music went through from 1750 to 1800 (Bach to Beethoven). Technology is the only thing that has truly witnessed a revolution over the past 50 years, yet we STILL use the same infrastructure (megabytes and gigabytes) and programming languages developed back then.

Really, what are you expecting to happen over the next few years? Be realistic.

The biggest difference between 2002 and 2012 is that everything was just so much uglier back then. Cars were uglier, phones were uglier, clothes were uglier, movies and TV shows looked uglier, etc. There is definitely an aesthetic to that era, and over the course of the 2000s the trend was to make everything sleeker and nicer looking. Take a look at the evolution of the iPod. Aesthetics in 2012 are much more refined than they were 10 years ago.


Believe it or not, I actually I think cars were sexier back then.  8) It had a certain sleek structure to it which was not too old and not too new that I found very attractive.

I also want to add that it's strange that 2012 still  doesn't feels similar to 2010 imo , but 10 years ago around this time, 2002 was vastly different  than 2000. I  guess it was due to everything that was happening like pop culture, 9/11, ect.


The shift to '00s culture happened in late 2001 and 2002.  The shift to the current culture happened in 2009.  2005 was just about as different to 2002 as 2012 is to 2009.

For me, halfway 2008-now is almost exactly the same (popculture/fashionwise), except tiny details.  ::)

And in my environment, I don't see much signs of people getting tired of autotune/electropop music. The people complaining on the web about too much of it, are often people who have always hated it (like myself...).

The first half of 2008 feels different to me, like it was the last part of the 'real' 00s.


A HUGE difference is the decline of Bieber hair for guys.  In 2008, it seemed like 85% of all guys between 13 and 25 had that hairstyle.  Today, you still see it but its rare and has almost gone the way of the bowl cut in the '90s.  Not even Bieber wears Bieber hair anymore haha.

The shift to '00s culture happened in late 2001 and 2002.  The shift to the current culture happened in 2009.  2005 was just about as different to 2002 as 2012 is to 2009.

I don't think the shift happened yet. I think in 2013 things will really change.

I see the general culture eras in 4 year spans: 2009-2012, 2005-2008, 2001-2004, and so on.

I see the general culture eras in 4 year spans: 2009-2012, 2005-2008, 2001-2004, and so on.


What about 2012-2016?  ???

I see the general culture eras in 4 year spans: 2009-2012, 2005-2008, 2001-2004, and so on.


Often, but not always. It's not thát strict. Can also be 3 or 5 years.

I wouldn't pair the (first part of) 2001 with 2004, for example. Comparing the atmosphere in the world.

The biggest difference between 2002 and 2012 is that everything was just so much uglier back then. Cars were uglier, phones were uglier, clothes were uglier, movies and TV shows looked uglier, etc. There is definitely an aesthetic to that era, and over the course of the 2000s the trend was to make everything sleeker and nicer looking.

I don't know where you live, but I think European cars looked way better back then than late 00's/early 10's ones that are fat, bulky and ugly. I like cars, not the fugly blobs that they call cars nowadays! Oh and clothes back then were better in the sense you were free to wear whatever you like. Now you've gotta be trendy or hip! We had better celebrities back then - no Justin Bieber, no Lana Del Ray, no Selena Gomez. I agree that tech looks sleeker now, but everything else looks cheesier to me.

I see the general culture eras in 4 year spans: 2009-2012, 2005-2008, 2001-2004, and so on.

I often see it as a decade (10 years)

I often see it as a decade (10 years)


10 years is only possible if you look at it on the surface. In nearly every decade the beginning of it is significally different to the last year of it. Best example is probably 1990 vs. 1999.

I don't know where you live, but I think European cars looked way better back then than late 00's/early 10's ones that are fat, bulky and ugly. I like cars, not the fugly blobs that they call cars nowadays! Oh and clothes back then were better in the sense you were free to wear whatever you like. Now you've gotta be trendy or hip! We had better celebrities back then - no Justin Bieber, no Lana Del Ray, no Selena Gomez. I agree that tech looks sleeker now, but everything else looks cheesier to me.

I agree. I think 2000s will be known for the best cars if they keep holding on to this direction they are in. Back then, the cars looked so sleek and attractive I like it a lot more than today's and it has the best looking cars from any decade in my opinion.

10 years is only possible if you look at it on the surface. In nearly every decade the beginning of it is significally different to the last year of it. Best example is probably 1990 vs. 1999.

This is how eras go:
1978-1982-1988-1992-1998-2002-2008-2012

Or another type:
1977-1983, 1983-1987 (core), 1987-1993, 1993-1997 (core), 1997-2003, 2003-2007 (core), 2007-2012

This is how eras go:
1978-1982-1988-1992-1998-2002-2008-2012

Or another type:
1977-1983, 1983-1987 (core), 1987-1993, 1993-1997 (core), 1997-2003, 2003-2007 (core), 2007-2012

What exactly happened 1998-2002 that makes it so unique?  ??? To me it has the same 90s feel all the way to 2003 when things start changing.

Here's my take. While, yes, 2012 is in the same era (autotune/dancepop/electro/synth/whatever you want to call it era) as 2010 and 2008 is, its not aged much at all, and from a glance it all would seem like the same year. There would be no need to say it was aged, but looking at it from close-up, there are some things that i've noticed this year that do show that we've progressed a little bit since 2010. For example, a lot of dancepop (which pretty much is what pop is dominated by) had a much brighter feel to it, or at least in early 2010. By late 2010, i did notice a darker turn. In 2012, there's a much (correct me if i'm wrong) darker tinge to the (dance)pop music that's out now. The days of 808 (influenced) drums and gated synths are fazing out and more organic drums and more individual synth chord lines are coming in. Also there's a HEAVY dubstep influence on music now that there wasn't nearly as much of in 2010. Another thing is the old school "Neo 60s" (as it was referred to earlier) or even Neo 80s (We Are Young by Fun is an example of this)that is peeping up (this did start in late 2010, but yall see my point).....Thats how i see it, then again i could be wrong, but thats what i notice.

In hip-hop culture, in 2010 jerking (though fazing out) was still in. (I say this bcuz early 2010 was the second semester of my senior year and we had a jerking crew  ::) ). It was nothing to see brothas in skinny jeans, bright colored t's, and maybe a plaid scarf or something. Also Hip-Hop used more a lot of gated synths and was on a more "pop-ish" road. Most r&b by 2010 had turned into what i like to call "urban-pop" and in my opinion there werent that many TRUE r&b acts that year and honestly werent that many in the previous year that werent heavily pop influenced. Now in 2012...the style now is more truly fitted (you dont see many brothas rockin the "jerkin" stuff anymore at least where i'm from). I would like to say the style now is a cross between organic and sorta kinda "blipster". In hip-hop music, while synths in 808s are still in...its not as heavily relied on. And now..its more common to hear things like looped samples (as the main part of the song) or filtered drums (Drake-type stuff). In R&B world, while a lot of the thing i referred to earlier as "Urban pop" is still hot, there are quite a few more TRUE r&b acts coming out compared to 2010.

Are skinny jeans going out of style? I hope not because they're honestly the only jeans that properly fit me ;D I'm very slender.

I actually thought they were just starting to take off/spread into the mainstream (whereas before they were considered "edgy"), but I think stores aren't selling them as much now.

Since music is the central focus of this thread, I thought this would be relevant.

Billboard 2 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES2ZW3LqDrA&feature=plcp

Billboard now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoRbXJJRd3c&list=UUFB1w45uBp2c-gDkOjWvRuQ&index=1&feature=plcp

10 years is only possible if you look at it on the surface. In nearly every decade the beginning of it is significally different to the last year of it. Best example is probably 1990 vs. 1999.


I think 1960 vs. 1969 is a better example.

Since music is the central focus of this thread, I thought this would be relevant.

Billboard 2 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES2ZW3LqDrA&feature=plcp

Billboard now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoRbXJJRd3c&list=UUFB1w45uBp2c-gDkOjWvRuQ&index=1&feature=plcp

Looking at these actually does kinda show the difference between 2010 and 2012 already. 2012 music seems more mature and less fake and more real.

What exactly happened 1998-2002 that makes it so unique?  ??? To me it has the same 90s feel all the way to 2003 when things start changing.


The 'unique' about that period: It actually did not feel 90's but also not really 00's.

If you remember the atmosphere of the mid-90's, you know what I mean and how different the late 90's/early 00's actually were in comparison to the real 90's.

Are skinny jeans going out of style? I hope not because they're honestly the only jeans that properly fit me ;D I'm very slender.

I actually thought they were just starting to take off/spread into the mainstream (whereas before they were considered "edgy"), but I think stores aren't selling them as much now.


From what I've observed, skinny jeans are still commonly worn by women, but not as much anymore by men.

The 'unique' about that period: It actually did not feel 90's but also not really 00's.

If you remember the atmosphere of the mid-90's, you know what I mean and how different the late 90's/early 00's actually were in comparison to the real 90's.

Yeah that's true. But a lot of people say "that's 90s" from 00-02 videos on YouTube. No idea why though.  :-\\

Yeah that's true. But a lot of people say "that's 90s" from 00-02 videos on YouTube. No idea why though.  :-\\


I think those comments are made by young teenagers too young to fully remember when those songs were released. ;D

I think those comments are made by young teenagers too young to fully remember when those songs were released. ;D


Certainly.

Or they just experienced the late 90's and have no clue about the earlier 90's atmosphere.

Maybe it's a bit like the 80's problem of the early 90's. We mid-80's born people think that at least 1990 or 91 was so 80's, while 1976ers might think differently about it.

Certainly.

Or they just experienced the late 90's and have no clue about the earlier 90's atmosphere.

Maybe it's a bit like the 80's problem of the early 90's. We mid-80's born people think that at least 1990 or 91 was so 80's, while 1976ers might think differently about it.


Those kids were probably born in the late '90s, they might barely remember the early '00s, heck even mid '00s. I think they "want" some of that '90s kid cred by claiming a lot of early '00s things as '90s.

Those kids were probably born in the late '90s, they might barely remember the early '00s, heck even mid '00s. I think they "want" some of that '90s kid cred by claiming a lot of early '00s things as '90s.

Yeah I hate when they do that. I was born in 95' but I fully accept the fact that I'm an 00's kid and I am proud of growing up in the 00's and remembering a bit of the late 90s and I can make a clear distinction between the 90's and the 2000s. I don't know what's so good about the 90s anyway?  ::)

I don't know what's so good about the 90s anyway?  ::)


It's the last decade that was quite 'analog' and a big amount of it was closer to the so called 'old world', where you actually had to go out to get and do stuff. 90's kids are proud to be the last ones who could experience a typical 20th century life style when they were little.

I don't know what's so good about the 90s anyway?  ::)


I've rarely hear anyone say the nineties were "great," other than the above mentioned teens. Nineties freaks in my experiece are generally pretty honest about the nineties being nostalgic for purely personal reasons, ie not being wonderful in any real sense, and for lacking alot of the flaws of the 21st century.

The nineties were mostly kind of a liberal version of the eighties. It had the eighties wealth and pop culture, mixed with alot of idealizing about a perfect yuppie paradise.

They also had great hip-hop, which has always been great, but now since time has passed they've become NOSTALGIC great hip-hop.

It was also a very down-to-earth decade. Mens fashion had very muted colors, like light brown and dark brown, and music kept a very "natural" sound, which is refreshing to look back on. Alot rock fans ignore the eighties as a era of good rock music just as much of they ignore the 2000's simply because its so glittery and synthsy. Irrational, but thats how people think.

Is 2010 starting to show its age? To me, no way. Even 2008 is still recent to me. Like a lot of people said when Lady Gaga and auto-tune culture became popular around 2008 that is when the "true" noughties was over. The latest year that I could consider dated is 2007.

As for the cultures I see it like this:

???? - 1992: Hair metal culture (sure, grunge was popular in 92, but songs like "November Rain" were too and films from 1992 such as Home Alone 2 seem a different era to 1994 films such as Ace Ventura: Pet Detective)

1993 - 1997: Core 90s culture (similar to 1992, some people have argued that 1997 was quite different because Hanson and Spice Girls were popular then but Soundgarden still had a few singles and concerts to offer with "Bleed Together" coming out in November of that year, the same month that Beavis and Butthead aired it's last episode if I remember correctly. Not to mention it wasn't until 1998 that Pokemon and the teenage sensation Britney Spears became popular which I see as good examples of millenium culture)

1998 -2002: Millenium culture (a lot of people seem to agree that 2003 was the beginning of a new era, so I don't feel the need to justify this one)

2003-2007: Core noughties culture (a lot of people seem to agree about this one too)

2008 - 2012: Recession culture (auto-tune, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber etc.)

I've rarely hear anyone say the nineties were "great," other than the above mentioned teens. Nineties freaks in my experiece are generally pretty honest about the nineties being nostalgic for purely personal reasons, ie not being wonderful in any real sense, and for lacking alot of the flaws of the 21st century.

The nineties were mostly kind of a liberal version of the eighties. It had the eighties wealth and pop culture, mixed with alot of idealizing about a perfect yuppie paradise.

They also had great hip-hop, which has always been great, but now since time has passed they've become NOSTALGIC great hip-hop.

It was also a very down-to-earth decade. Mens fashion had very muted colors, like light brown and dark brown, and music kept a very "natural" sound, which is refreshing to look back on. Alot rock fans ignore the eighties as a era of good rock music just as much of they ignore the 2000's simply because its so glittery and synthsy. Irrational, but thats how people think.


Not my experience. The 90s pop culture gets hyped a lot on the internet and I'm not just talking about people who are teenagers who pretend to be "90s kids" or who only remember 1999, 1998 at best. I've seen a lot of people talk about how great shows like Power Rangers were. And how great movies like Jurassic Park, The Lion King and anything involving Jim Carrey were.

Also, Notorious BIG (Biggie Smalls) is not only seen as nostalgic today, but also influential. Tupac also.

2010 is only a few years ago, is there a difference? Yeah a little bit but it's still we're only talking a couple years ago. The main difference I can see how pop music was more urban influenced in 2010, now it's like true pop and urban is even less popular now among pop audiences than it was in 2010. 2012 is like REALLY pop like "Call Me Maybe" and Taylor Swift's "We Are Never Getting Back Together", compared to stuff like Ke$ha back in 2010. So it is a difference, not too massive but definitely noticeable. A lot of people do still like rap but it is no longer popular among pop/top 40 audiences which now consists of mostly teen pop again. In the mid '00s top 40 was like literally almost all hip-hop!

Those kids were probably born in the late '90s, they might barely remember the early '00s, heck even mid '00s. I think they "want" some of that '90s kid cred by claiming a lot of early '00s things as '90s.


That ish is beginning to get weird like real talk.

2010 is completely different from 2012? It seems the same to me, if we were talking about 2005 and now, ok. Some people on here must be 13 or something...

2010 is completely different from 2012? It seems the same to me, if we were talking about 2005 and now, ok. SOme people on here must be 13 or something...


I was thinking that too. Maybe even under 13... I mean seriously, some people think Lady Gaga actually DEFINES the noughties?  ;D Honestly since when did 2008-2012 culture have more stake than 2003-2007 culture? Coldplay would be a better example, because, like them or not, they were popular in the early and mid noughties as well as the late, not just the end of the decade.

I was thinking that too. Maybe even under 13... I mean seriously, some people think Lady Gaga actually DEFINES the noughties?  ;D Honestly since when did 2008-2012 culture have more stake than 2003-2007 culture? Coldplay would be a better example, because, like them or not, they were popular in the early and mid noughties as well as the late, not just the end of the decade.


Shoot, I remember people calling Lizzie McGuire a 90s show...nevermind the fact that it came out in 2001.

Shoot, I remember people calling Lizzie McGuire a 90s show...nevermind the fact that it came out in 2001.


It's always irritating to me when some people call early 00's shows 90's shows. ::) Usually a clear giveaway as to how old those people are.

It's always irritating to me when some people call early 00's shows 90's shows. ::) Usually a clear giveaway as to how old those people are.


Yeah I've seen these types on youtube calling Hilary Duff songs from 2003 or 2004 "'90s music"...it's like c'mon!  ::) These are the types born in the late '90s (some even in the 2000s!) that contend they grew up in the '90s ROFL.  ;D

Yeah I've seen these types on youtube calling Hilary Duff songs from 2003 or 2004 "'90s music"...it's like c'mon!  ::) These are the types born in the late '90s (some even in the 2000s!) that contend they grew up in the '90s ROFL.  ;D


This is highly annoying.  >:( Why can't they understand that if they were sucking on a bottle in the late 90s, they know ***NOTHING*** about the 1990s? They could at least have the decency to look up release dates before claiming a song as "1990s" given that they are the I-generation after all. It's amazing that they think the 1990s sound was represented by 1998-2002+, which in fact it wasn't. A typical 1990s-sounding song would've come from a band like Soundgarden, and NOT Britney Spears, for goodness sake. People born in the mid-late 90s onwards are just ignorant pigs!

It's always irritating to me when some people call early 00's shows 90's shows. ::) Usually a clear giveaway as to how old those people are.


I know, why can't people at least LOOK up the release date if they are not sure when something came out. Before commenting "this is so 90s" for a show that started in 2001, they could check. Or is a 10 second search too difficult? Awwww you pathetic teenagers, how sad that you don't even know how to research properly. No wonder your generation is hated so much.

I know, why can't people at least LOOK up the release date if they are not sure when something came out. Before commenting "this is so 90s" for a show that started in 2001, they could check. Or is a 10 second search too difficult? Awwww you pathetic teenagers, how sad that you don't even know how to research properly. No wonder your generation is hated so much.


People born in the mid/late 90s are really in a weird position, being born in the 90s, mostly grew up in the 00s, but still aren't adults (2010s). I mean they have a computer obviously, and look it up instead of trying to be something they're not. I honestly think it's weird that they do that but I think it has a lot to do with the older people trashing the 00s. I grew up in both decades, even though I feel more of a connection with the 00s. The 00s in general wasn't that bad but pop culture wise from '03-onwards it was kind of dumb.

People born in the mid/late 90s are really in a weird position, being born in the 90s, mostly grew up in the 00s, but still aren't adults (2010s). I mean they have a computer obviously, and look it up instead of trying to be something they're not. I honestly think it's weird that they do that but I think it has a lot to do with the older people trashing the 00s. I grew up in both decades, even though I feel more of a connection with the 00s. The 00s in general wasn't that bad but pop culture wise from '03-onwards it was kind of dumb.

What? While I can agree that 2000, 2001 and 2002 were probably the best three years, I don't think 2003 onwards was "dumb" at all. I mean, I guess it depends what you were paying attention to what not, but television had great episodes of The Apprentice, The Amazing Race, Survivor, Fear Factor, American Idol, Pimp My Ride...the list goes on. If you like games, the Superstar and Makin Magic expansion packs for the original The Sims, The Sims 2 and the University and Night Life expansion packs all came out in 2003 and later. Not to mention Age of Empires III, which although II was probably better, was still pretty good. As for music, X&Y by Coldplay had some great tracks on it, and that was released in 2005. Even the cultural transitions of 2008 didn't stop Black Gives Way To Blue coming out. And even then, we are still left with LOLcats, Youtube, and two great sequels for The Fast And the Furious (2 Fast 2 Furious & Tokyo Drift).

I'd be taking that over fifties, sixties, seventies or even eighties pop culture anytime. And the tenties so far. The only decade in my books that could possibly beat 2003 onwards for the decade is the nineties.

What? While I can agree that 2000, 2001 and 2002 were probably the best three years, I don't think 2003 onwards was "dumb" at all. I mean, I guess it depends what you were paying attention to what not, but television had great episodes of The Apprentice, The Amazing Race, Survivor, Fear Factor, American Idol, Pimp My Ride...the list goes on. If you like games, the Superstar and Makin Magic expansion packs for the original The Sims, The Sims 2 and the University and Night Life expansion packs all came out in 2003 and later. Not to mention Age of Empires III, which although II was probably better, was still pretty good. As for music, X&Y by Coldplay had some great tracks on it, and that was released in 2005. Even the cultural transitions of 2008 didn't stop Black Gives Way To Blue coming out. And even then, we are still left with LOLcats, Youtube, and two great sequels for The Fast And the Furious (2 Fast 2 Furious & Tokyo Drift).

I'd be taking that over fifties, sixties, seventies or even eighties pop culture anytime. And the tenties so far. The only decade in my books that could possibly beat 2003 onwards for the decade is the nineties.


I was only 12 in '03 so I had no interest in stuff like that, IDK, 2003 IMO was the beginning of the culture shift, it just seem so fake and gimmicky, 50 cent, Iraq, everything about that time was just dumb to me, especially Nickelodeon. Back then, I was still playing games from the 90s and watching VHS tapes, but it still didn't feel like the 90s. 2002 was honestly the last year of the 00s that really felt like the 90s. But hey it is what it is.

I was only 12 in '03 so I had no interest in stuff like that, IDK, 2003 IMO was the beginning of the culture shift, it just seem so fake and gimmicky, 50 cent, Iraq, everything about that time was just dumb to me, especially Nickelodeon. Back then, I was still playing games from the 90s and watching VHS tapes, but it still didn't feel like the 90s. 2002 was honestly the last year of the 00s that really felt like the 90s. But hey it is what it is.


Hey, I agree with you about 2002 being the last year to feel like the 90s. And I still watched VHS tapes too. I taped Survivor: Pearl Islands in 2003 and watched the episodes again and again and again.

People born in the mid/late 90s are really in a weird position, being born in the 90s, mostly grew up in the 00s, but still aren't adults (2010s).


What is so weird about that position? Anybody who was born after the 1-year of a decade has at least a few months of non-adulthood in the decade after the childhood-decade. It was the same to me: Born in the 80's, grew-up in the 90's and I was not an adult until 2004 (00's).

What is so weird about that position? Anybody who was born after the 1-year of a decade has at least a few months of non-adulthood in the decade after the childhood-decade. It was the same to me: Born in the 80's, grew-up in the 90's and I was not an adult until 2004 (00's).


People never shut up about how much the 00s suck.

What is so weird about that position? Anybody who was born after the 1-year of a decade has at least a few months of non-adulthood in the decade after the childhood-decade. It was the same to me: Born in the 80's, grew-up in the 90's and I was not an adult until 2004 (00's).


Well actually, those born in the 2-year are still able to enjoy being an adult in every year of the decade after whether they were 18 on Janaury 1st or not. And of course, if your birthday is January 1st, you can be born in a 2-year and spend 100% adulthood in an era. At least those with a birthday in June or earlier are moreso 18 year olds of a 0-year than 17 year olds, given that they were still at least adults for most of the year.

People never shut up about how much the 00s suck.


Well, IMO, those people that say that are likely to be one of two kinds:

1. They were born around 1998/99. This means they don't remember the very beginning of the decade and by the time they were kids they got the Crap Age Movement of kids culture which started somewhere around 2003-2005. That's why they think it sucks, almost all of the decent kids stuff from the 00s were from the first half of the decade. The second half was the early days of Crap Age Movement which included "Madagascar", "Cars", "Ben 10" and so on and don't even get me started on all the Chipmunks nonsense. The Crap Age is still going today. For more mature culture the Crap Age Movement started a little later in 2008 when Lady Gaga appeared.

2. They were born around 1952. This means they are old fuddy-duddys and are still daydreaming nearly half a century later about being a hippie in the 1960s. In their eyes, nothing could ever compare to wearing a flower power shirt and holding up the peace sign to everyone you meet.

People never shut up about how much the 00s suck.


cuz it does

cuz it does


From about 2004 onwards for children's culture and 2007/08 onwards for adolescents & older culture I can understand.

From about 2004 onwards for children's culture and 2007/08 onwards for adolescents & older culture I can understand.


2004 wasnt even that bad  late 2004- to late 2006 was pretty good for older culture
minus snap rap  2007/2008 was horrible though minus  late 2008

But like i was saying 2010 is showing smalls signs of being  faded it just is not as much as 00s but it is

2004 wasnt even that bad  late 2004- to late 2006 was pretty good for older culture
minus snap rap  2007/2008 was horrible though minus  late 2008

But like i was saying 2010 is showing smalls signs of being  faded it just is not as much as 00s but it is


But 2010 was the reform of Soundgarden and even today the first studio album since 1996 hasn't even been released yet. Not to mention that Survivor was already enjoying it's ten year anniversary season in 2010 (Heroes vs Villians).

To be fair for the late 00s, LOLcats became mainstream then, and the first Wafflepwn "Greatest Freakout Ever" videos were uploaded in 2009 the same year Black Gives Way To Blue by Alice In Chains came out.

I was only 12 in '03 so I had no interest in stuff like that, IDK, 2003 IMO was the beginning of the culture shift, it just seem so fake and gimmicky, 50 cent, Iraq, everything about that time was just dumb to me, especially Nickelodeon. Back then, I was still playing games from the 90s and watching VHS tapes, but it still didn't feel like the 90s. 2002 was honestly the last year of the 00s that really felt like the 90s. But hey it is what it is.


I always felt that early 03 was a different world than late 03. I remember the 02-03 school year and how different it was from the summer of 03 and beyond. There was much more variety in the first half of 03 and the style of dress was more pop punk. Summer 03 and beyond had the charts filled with almost all rap and rap fashion was unfortunately the norm.

cuz it does


I agree.

I always felt that early 03 was a different world than late 03. I remember the 02-03 school year and how different it was from the summer of 03 and beyond. There was much more variety in the first half of 03 and the style of dress was more pop punk. Summer 03 and beyond had the charts filled with almost all rap and rap fashion was unfortunately the norm.


I graduated HS in 02 though I was suppose to be in 03.  I agree though that culture changed little after I left  HS. 

I always felt that early 03 was a different world than late 03. I remember the 02-03 school year and how different it was from the summer of 03 and beyond. There was much more variety in the first half of 03 and the style of dress was more pop punk. Summer 03 and beyond had the charts filled with almost all rap and rap fashion was unfortunately the norm.


I'll have to agree with you there. I was in school at the time and I remember the summer of '03 and onward having a much different vibe than early '03.

I'll have to agree with you there. I was in school at the time and I remember the summer of '03 and onward having a much different vibe than early '03.


But even late 2003 is a different world to today. Hell, even 2007 is a different era.

Now that I look back on it I actually kind of agree with you! 2010 is kinda dated, I just started high school and now I'm graduating and it feel like a while ago even if it was only 2 years ago. Music was slightly different too. There was less Indie/Alternative on the radio. It isn't hugely different but I do notice it's a little dated. 2009 seems pretty dated to me too nd you can kind of hear the difference in pop music in 2009 as well. It's more Electro-Hop based and it was mainly Hip-Hop and Autotune. The last year that truly feels old is 2007 but I agree, 2010 is starting to show it's age.

Now that I look back on it I actually kind of agree with you! 2010 is kinda dated, I just started high school and now I'm graduating and it feel like a while ago even if it was only 2 years ago. Music was slightly different too. There was less Indie/Alternative on the radio. It isn't hugely different but I do notice it's a little dated. 2009 seems pretty dated to me too nd you can kind of hear the difference in pop music in 2009 as well. It's more Electro-Hop based and it was mainly Hip-Hop and Autotune. The last year that truly feels old is 2007 but I agree, 2010 is starting to show it's age.


Early 2010? Kind of distant. Late 2010? Still seems close to me.

early 2010 is dated now but not by much

See another thing that makes 2008 2009 2010 seem less dated is the macbooks  look the same and have the
same aluminum casing  making it hard to distinguish what year its from if you saw a pic of a mac store .

early 2010 is dated now but not by much

See another thing that makes 2008 2009 2010 seem less dated is the macbooks  look the same and have the
same aluminum casing  making it hard to distinguish what year its from if you saw a pic of a mac store .


I don't agree. All of 2010, even early 2010 is as good as last month in my opinion. 2009 and 2008 seem a little while ago, but since they are less than 5 years ago, they really shouldn't. 2007 is the latest year that has any true datedness to it. 2006 and 2005 have a bit more datedness to 2007 but not much. 2004 and 2003 are really starting to age, being 8 and 9 years ago. 2002, 2001 and 2000 are just plain dated! Compare The Sims to the average 2012 game.

Talking about how 2010 is dated reminds me of the South Park episode about dated internet meems from 2010, such as Tebowing and Faith Hilling.

I'd give 2010 2 more years at least.

2010 might as well have been yesterday for me too. Summer 2009 feels like another time though, but that's mainly because I started college in Fall of '09, so everything from then until now still feels current. Back then I had the shaggier hair and was still wearing khaki shorts, American Eagle t-shirts, white gym shoes, etc. All very 2000s. In college I completely changed my appearance.

I'd give 2010 2 more years at least.


I'd say no earlier than 2015.

I'd give 2010 2 more years at least.


I'd say you're right.

Talking about how 2010 is dated reminds me of the South Park episode about dated internet meems from 2010, such as Tebowing and Faith Hilling.


Summer 2009 feels quite dated a lil bit of that wow old feeling. But it is really not that old.  Summer of 2010 shares that same aspect  but it shouldnt it still feels quite new and dated at the same time.

How is 2010 already dated? I'm sorry but I just don't see it.  :o :-\\  2 years from now, yeah, but now, no.

Does anyone think skinny jeans are to the late 00s and early 10s what acid wash jeans were to the late 80s and early 90s?

I don't know how it was in the mid/late 80s when acid wash jeans first appeared in fashion, but I imagined they raised some eye brows similar to how skinny jeans (on men) were considered quite strange if not feminine when they were new in the mid-00s. But now you don't think twice about it when you see them because they've become so mainstream. It could also mean skinny jeans will be out of style by 2014ish (1993 seems to be the last I see any acid wash in the family photos).

Does anyone think skinny jeans are to the late 00s and early 10s what acid wash jeans were to the late 80s and early 90s?

I don't know how it was in the mid/late 80s when acid wash jeans first appeared in fashion, but I imagined they raised some eye brows similar to how skinny jeans (on men) were considered quite strange if not feminine when they were new in the mid-00s. But now you don't think twice about it when you see them because they've become so mainstream. It could also mean skinny jeans will be out of style by 2014ish (1993 seems to be the last I see any acid wash in the family photos).


Yes.

Heck, I think September 24, 2012 is ALREADY showing its age too. Something really changed over night I can feel it, the vibe is totally different this morning.  ;D  :D

Heck, I think September 24, 2012 is ALREADY showing its age too. Something really changed over night I can feel it, the vibe is totally different this morning.  ;D  :D


Yeah, 'cause today is really more like 2015, isn't it?

How is 2010 already dated? I'm sorry but I just don't see it.  :o :-\\  2 years from now, yeah, but now, no.


I just don't see it either I mean 2 years? No.  ::)

Heck, I think September 24, 2012 is ALREADY showing its age too. Something really changed over night I can feel it, the vibe is totally different this morning.  ;D  :D


you woke up?  ;D

Heck, I think September 24, 2012 is ALREADY showing its age too. Something really changed over night I can feel it, the vibe is totally different this morning.  ;D  :D


I hope October will have a new vibe, because September 2012 was bad. Another September like the Green Day song.

2010 is a little different than now. Electro-pop has kinda faded out a little bit I think.

2010 is a little different than now. Electro-pop has kinda faded out a little bit I think.


yes

I don't see why so many people are against the idea of 2010 being kinda dated. Pop culturally it may be similar, but a lot of things do seem kinda dated in 2010. The economy was in much rougher shape first of all. It really didn't start truly improving until late 2010. I agree how some say late 2010 is more similar to now than early 2010. Late 2010 I was already in Highschool to where I am now. Early 2010 felt like a different universe for me in my personal life. So many changes happened that summer it's just crazy to think about. I'd say personally 2010 is a different era to me but pop culturally and worldwide, 2007 takes the place. 2010 I just started Highschool and I finished Junior High and lot's of things changed for me that year. I turned 15 as well. I discovered a lot of new things that year. So yeah, I would say it's kinda dated to me especially the early part.  :P

I don't see why so many people are against the idea of 2010 being kinda dated. Pop culturally it may be similar, but a lot of things do seem kinda dated in 2010. The economy was in much rougher shape first of all. It really didn't start truly improving until late 2010. I agree how some say late 2010 is more similar to now than early 2010. Late 2010 I was already in Highschool to where I am now. Early 2010 felt like a different universe for me in my personal life. So many changes happened that summer it's just crazy to think about. I'd say personally 2010 is a different era to me but pop culturally and worldwide, 2007 takes the place. 2010 I just started Highschool and I finished Junior High and lot's of things changed for me that year. I turned 15 as well. I discovered a lot of new things that year. So yeah, I would say it's kinda dated to me especially the early part.  :P


Personally, my problem is that as long as people exist that don't consider 1997 to be retro, there is no way the 2010 should be called dated. 1997 is a whole universe away from 2010! It's even a world away from 2003!

Personally, my problem is that as long as people exist that don't consider 1997 to be retro, there is no way the 2010 should be called dated. 1997 is a whole universe away from 2010! It's even a world away from 2003!

That's why I consider it retro.  ;D

That's why I consider it retro.  ;D


Okay. Well, some don't seem to. I can see 2010 as being more than just yesterday I suppose...

I think how successful Kesha's new song is will be a good barometer as to if 2010 is notably different from 2012/2013.

I think how successful Kesha's new song is will be a good barometer as to if 2010 is notably different from 2012/2013.

Yeah I heard it on YouTube and while it still may have electro-pop elements, it is less dance-like and it's not really fast and it's more laid back. That's what I think we will see pop music like throughout the mid 2010's too.

That's why I consider it retro.  ;D


That would make the 80's antique  ::)

Personally, my problem is that as long as people exist that don't consider 1997 to be retro, there is no way the 2010 should be called dated. 1997 is a whole universe away from 2010! It's even a world away from 2003!


1997 is retro, that was 15 years ago.

That would make the 80's antique  ::)


IMO, 1997 is the last "retro" year at the moment (15 years). The 80s are "retro" too except for 1982, 1981 and 1980 (30+ years ago) which I consider "vintage". "Antique" for me has to be before the 1920s.

Anything before the 60's is Antique to an extent.

Anything before the 60's is Antique to an extent.


exactly.

Anything before the 60's is Antique to an extent.


Hmmm...Personality by Lloyd Price was a big hit in 1959. That's somewhat an antique in your opinion? I'm just curious.

Hmmm...Personality by Lloyd Price was a big hit in 1959. That's somewhat an antique in your opinion? I'm just curious.

Yes. Anything from the 50's is antique. Not only that, but I think anytime before the 60's/70's was a disgrace to humanity because of all the Racism, Sexism, lack of freedom and World Wars that were going on at the time. Of course, today we still have those kinds of things, but thinking about the ways they treated people of a different skin color back then scares me so much, and I proudly label it as "Antique" as to think there's now way that can happen in today's society thankfully.

Yes. Anything from the 50's is antique. Not only that, but I think anytime before the 60's/70's was a disgrace to humanity because of all the Racism, Sexism, lack of freedom and World Wars that were going on at the time. Of course, today we still have those kinds of things, but thinking about the ways they treated people of a different skin color back then scares me so much, and I proudly label it as "Antique" as to think there's now way that can happen in today's society thankfully.


To be honest, that is one quality that a lot of people like about the 1990s. Not only did people get along despite differences, but it wasn't too uncommon for a white boy to be friends with a black girl for example.

To be honest, that is one quality that a lot of people like about the 1990s. Not only did people get along despite differences, but it wasn't too uncommon for a white boy to be friends with a black girl for example.

Yeah the 1990's were good for that.

Yes. Anything from the 50's is antique. Not only that, but I think anytime before the 60's/70's was a disgrace to humanity because of all the Racism, Sexism, lack of freedom and World Wars that were going on at the time. Of course, today we still have those kinds of things, but thinking about the ways they treated people of a different skin color back then scares me so much, and I proudly label it as "Antique" as to think there's now way that can happen in today's society thankfully.


As a Black person, I sure as hell don't want to go to any time before the 70s...racism still exists but it was much, much worse back then. Screw that, my ass is staying in the present.

Hmmm...Personality by Lloyd Price was a big hit in 1959. That's somewhat an antique in your opinion? I'm just curious.


Yes it would be.

Yes. Anything from the 50's is antique. Not only that, but I think anytime before the 60's/70's was a disgrace to humanity because of all the Racism, Sexism, lack of freedom and World Wars that were going on at the time. Of course, today we still have those kinds of things, but thinking about the ways they treated people of a different skin color back then scares me so much, and I proudly label it as "Antique" as to think there's now way that can happen in today's society thankfully.


I actually disagree, there's still a lot of racism today and there were a lot of people against racism back then, it was only in certain parts of the US that segregation still existed as late as the 60's. Generally speaking the 1920's onward had pretty progressive attitudes about those kind of things already.

We like to think we're moral and civilized in this day and age and that our ancestors were bigoted barbarians but the fact is, we're not really all too different from our grandparents. Animosity towards blacks and Jews just changed into animosity towards Muslims, immigrants and people of different political beliefs, that's all.  8-P

I actually disagree, there's still a lot of racism today and there were a lot of people against racism back then, it was only in certain parts of the US that segregation still existed as late as the 60's. Generally speaking the 1920's onward had pretty progressive attitudes about those kind of things already.

We like to think we're moral and civilized in this day and age and that our ancestors were bigoted barbarians but the fact is, we're not really all too different from our grandparents. Animosity towards blacks and Jews just changed into animosity towards Muslims, immigrants and people of different political beliefs, that's all.  8-P

Like I said, racism still exists today, but due to the legal actions and rights that have been formed in the 60's, it's a different world today compared to then and thank goodness for that.

Like I said, racism still exists today, but due to the legal actions and rights that have been formed in the 60's, it's a different world today compared to then and thank goodness for that.


The 1990s was the least discriminative decade in our time. It wasn't uncommon for a boy and girl (even if one was black and the other white) to be friends, even best friends...

http://blogs.newmoon.com/luna-blog/files/2011/09/boy-and-girl.jpg

...and of course this led to plenty of interracial weddings:

http://weddingnouveau.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/kim-cory-ohana-photography-header.png

But we have now gone back to the drawing board. Nowadays, girls being friends with boys is more fantasy:

http://www.7daysindubai.com/images/localpeople/ugc-images/276156/Article/images/16098007/3784527.png

And black and white people often look away from each other:

http://static.ebony.com/Caro_article-small_6235.jpg

The 1990s was the least discriminative decade in our time. It wasn't uncommon for a boy and girl (even if one was black and the other white) to be friends, even best friends...

http://blogs.newmoon.com/luna-blog/files/2011/09/boy-and-girl.jpg

...and of course this led to plenty of interracial weddings:

But we have now gone back to the drawing board. Nowadays, girls being friends with boys is more fantasy:

And black and white people often look away from each other:



True, true.  But on the other hand, in the 2010's, gayness and lesbianism have never been more popular. 

True, true.  But on the other hand, in the 2010's, gayness and lesbianism have never been more popular.


There's more of that than there used to be.

The 1990s was the least discriminative decade in our time. It wasn't uncommon for a boy and girl (even if one was black and the other white) to be friends, even best friends...

http://blogs.newmoon.com/luna-blog/files/2011/09/boy-and-girl.jpg

...and of course this led to plenty of interracial weddings:

http://weddingnouveau.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/kim-cory-ohana-photography-header.png

But we have now gone back to the drawing board. Nowadays, girls being friends with boys is more fantasy:

http://www.7daysindubai.com/images/localpeople/ugc-images/276156/Article/images/16098007/3784527.png

And black and white people often look away from each other:

http://static.ebony.com/Caro_article-small_6235.jpg

That's true. Kinda like what happened with the 80's.

The 1990s was the least discriminative decade in our time. It wasn't uncommon for a boy and girl (even if one was black and the other white) to be friends, even best friends...

http://blogs.newmoon.com/luna-blog/files/2011/09/boy-and-girl.jpg

...and of course this led to plenty of interracial weddings:

http://weddingnouveau.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/kim-cory-ohana-photography-header.png

But we have now gone back to the drawing board. Nowadays, girls being friends with boys is more fantasy:

http://www.7daysindubai.com/images/localpeople/ugc-images/276156/Article/images/16098007/3784527.png

And black and white people often look away from each other:

http://static.ebony.com/Caro_article-small_6235.jpg


The black girl being friends with white guys seems to have increased a little, at least in may little pocket of the country. And in the media, too.

You'd be hard pressed to find a black male in ads anymore, its only cute black girls now. All the better for them, I guess, but its creepy how they just kinda switched like that.

The black girl being friends with white guys seems to have increased a little, at least in may little pocket of the country. And in the media, too.

You'd be hard pressed to find a black male in ads anymore, its only cute black girls now. All the better for them, I guess, but its creepy how they just kinda switched like that.


I'm forced to agree with you.

2010? Dated?! Am I the only one who still doesn't see this...? :-\\

2010? Dated?! Am I the only one who still doesn't see this...? :-\\


I don't see it either even though it's been 2 years.

Well, I should have mentioned that 2010 has aged a little bit, but not a lot. "Dated" isn't quite the right word to describe 2010. 2010 seemed like an interesting and kind of cool year.


I think the 10s as a whole has been interesting so far. YOLO and Million Dollar Money Drop (I like the Singapore edition too).

I think if the topic was '2003 is already starting to show its age' I might agree a bit more. I just watched a documentary from 2003 and honestly, it didn't seem all that far off from 1994 or something like that, in terms of how old it looked. The technology of that time is dated, the pace of programming was a bit slower, the film usually wasn't in HD and some of the fashion was slightly different as well. You didn't see a lot of people who looked like this in 2003:

http://www.dirtyandthirty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Hipster-Girls-2-5.jpg

I think Airplanes by BOB/Hayley Williams/Eminem sounds pretty dated. It would fit in better with 2006 than with 2012.

I think Airplanes by BOB/Hayley Williams/Eminem sounds pretty dated. It would fit in better with 2006 than with 2012.


Interesting. Even 2008 seems like a different era to 2006 to an extent to me.

I think Airplanes by BOB/Hayley Williams/Eminem sounds pretty dated. It would fit in better with 2006 than with 2012.


Sometimes, I read your posts, and I just want to kill myself.

I think Airplanes by BOB/Hayley Williams/Eminem sounds pretty dated. It would fit in better with 2006 than with 2012.


That song could actually fit in with 2000, since it sounds like "Stan" by Eminem.

2010 probably won't show its age in my eyes until at least 2017, maybe 2016 at the earliest!

2010 probably won't show its age in my eyes until at least 2017, maybe 2016 at the earliest!


I'm with you on that one. I don't even think 2008 will show its age in my eyes until at least when the first half of the '10s is over.

I think Airplanes by BOB/Hayley Williams/Eminem sounds pretty dated. It would fit in better with 2006 than with 2012.

Yeah Perhaps. Same as Just a Dream by Nelly.

The 1990s was the least discriminative decade in our time. It wasn't uncommon for a boy and girl (even if one was black and the other white) to be friends, even best friends...

http://blogs.newmoon.com/luna-blog/files/2011/09/boy-and-girl.jpg

...and of course this led to plenty of interracial weddings:

http://weddingnouveau.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/kim-cory-ohana-photography-header.png

But we have now gone back to the drawing board. Nowadays, girls being friends with boys is more fantasy:

http://www.7daysindubai.com/images/localpeople/ugc-images/276156/Article/images/16098007/3784527.png

And black and white people often look away from each other:

http://static.ebony.com/Caro_article-small_6235.jpg

That makes me sad.  :( Hopefully we will see more acceptance like the 90's throughout the 2010's.

I think Airplanes by BOB/Hayley Williams/Eminem sounds pretty dated. It would fit in better with 2006 than with 2012.


Just listened to Fireflies by Owl City today. Does sound a little dated.