Well the new stuff like everything being an autotuned dance or rap song isn't good. I would rather have an even huger 80s revival with more and more 80s style music being made along with 80s fashion. I would rather have a revival than something new that sucks.


80s fashion did come back

Mj red jackets black leather jackets
Neon

80s fashion did come back

Mj red jackets black leather jackets
Neon


I want 80s music back. I want a full on 80s revival as in bringing back the 80s and continuing it. The new things coming out suck so I'm not eager for new anymore.

I want music to sound like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksHsh4r8tJA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBISF26Kd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlVI7ZNiFlI&ob=av2e

I want 80s music back. I want a full on 80s revival as in bringing back the 80s and continuing it. The new things coming out suck so I'm not eager for new anymore.

I want music to sound like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksHsh4r8tJA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBISF26Kd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlVI7ZNiFlI&ob=av2e



The 80s did full come back music wise

Where have u been

The 80s did full come back music wise

Where have u been

Today's music is not like the 80s. It's autotuned rap and Justin Bieber style pop.

Today's music is not like the 80s. It's autotuned rap and Justin Bieber style pop.


from 2005-2010 the 80s came back in fashion and in music where have u been

Lmfao-  Fashion  zebra patterns
Katy Perry -  Last Friday night    80s theme party with  80s type theme
Lady Gaga-  Just Dance  - 80s clothes 80s everything
Heartless kanye west  808 80s drums      also kanye wearing 80s clothes
Madonna  2005  hung up
Chris Brown forever      wearing mj jackets
Hot tub time machine  a movie about the 80s
I love the 80s part 2  on  vh1

I could go on

Frankly Rhett, I don't give a damn.


Frankly Scarlett, I don't give a damn.

every decade is a mashup


The "mash up decade" refers to the uniquely 2000's trend of reviving seventies fashion one year, then fifties the next, then eighties, then sixites, then.... and not inventing anything new.

This doesn't even take into account the effects of hipsterism - ten years of upper middle class slackers having taken every retro fashion ever in a desperate race to appear morally superior to everyone else.

What I was trying to say in my last post was "will the GENERAL POPULOUS respond well to another attempt to rehash a former era?"

I've been pondering about the likelyhood of a nineties comeback alot lately (which is why I've been posting here so often,) and my answer is probably not.

80s have been retro and 90s have been nostalgic for quite sometime now.

every decade is a mashup


How is that? ???

80s fashion did come back

Mj red jackets black leather jackets
Neon


What? I don't see anybody wearing MJ jackets. ???

I want 80s music back. I want a full on 80s revival as in bringing back the 80s and continuing it. The new things coming out suck so I'm not eager for new anymore.

I want music to sound like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksHsh4r8tJA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QBISF26Kd4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlVI7ZNiFlI&ob=av2e


Yeah now this is what I'm talking about.

The "mash up decade" refers to the uniquely 2000's trend of reviving seventies fashion one year, then fifties the next, then eighties, then sixites, then.... and not inventing anything new.

This doesn't even take into account the effects of hipsterism - ten years of upper middle class slackers having taken every retro fashion ever in a desperate race to appear morally superior to everyone else.

What I was trying to say in my last post was "will the GENERAL POPULOUS respond well to another attempt to rehash a former era?"

I've been pondering about the likelyhood of a nineties comeback alot lately (which is why I've been posting here so often,) and my answer is probably not.


The '90s is just as guilty of revivalism as the '00s, it just kept a smaller focus on the late '60s and '70s, I think the '00s is most distinct fashions is emo fashion(which does look fairly distinctive) and hip-hop fashion(a lot updated from the '90s).

What? I don't see anybody wearing MJ jackets. ???


I guess you've missed a trend, about three years ago. Even before MJ died.

What? I don't see anybody wearing MJ jackets. ???


Chris Brown diddy  if you watch the Vmas and etc ull c them trying to look like MJ.
This has been going on for awhile now. And to the other poster  THE ENTIRE decade of the 80s came back in the 2000s  you just werent paying attention .  80s movies came back        most movies were set in the 80s.  Music had 808 drums and synths . Obv the 80s cant be recreated thats impossible nothing can be the same 2 times.  But yes the 80s did come back in the 2000s full force  everyone should know that if they were paying attention to pop culture . Even 80s fonts  were used on things for products .

Speaking of the 90's, I suddenly feel nostalgic for Chambawamba.

http://www.blogodisea.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/chumbawamba-thumbtumping-90s.jpg

I guess you've missed a trend, about three years ago. Even before MJ died.


Ok Now I know what you're talking about.

The '90s is just as guilty of revivalism as the '00s, it just kept a smaller focus on the late '60s and '70s

The nineties seemed to be big on "Americana"; treating the 1940's-1960's as one great era and focusing on that. But I don't remember people "overloading" on retro during the 90's, although the "swing music and muscle cars" fads seemed to die really quickly. You probably remember better than I do.

People right now seem to be have been desensitized to "retro" altogether, and I think the feeling that pop culture has been recycling too much helped produce that sentiment.

we could argue about '95 and '96 though.


I think now there is more nostalgia for around that period than the early 90's. If you look at the thread about the 2012 albums, a lot of bands and artists from that period are releasing albums this year, such as No Doubt, Alanis Morisette, Smashing Pumpkins, Matchbox 20, Dave Mathews Band, and Garbage. I've been feeling nostalgic for the summer of '96 lately. It was a happy time in my life with a lot of good memories. Now I enjoy listening to (and doing) "The Macarena". I also need to buy "Independence Day" on blu-ray.

The nineties seemed to be big on "Americana"; treating the 1940's-1960's as one great era and focusing on that. But I don't remember people "overloading" on retro during the 90's, although the "swing music and muscle cars" fads seemed to die really quickly. You probably remember better than I do.

People right now seem to be have been desensitized to "retro" altogether, and I think the feeling that pop culture has been recycling too much helped produce that sentiment.


anyone remember the boy meets world episode where its in the  60s . here is another example of how ppl were obsessed with  60s and early 70s  as this video in 1995 had a  60s 70s vibe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyQnstfscz8

Am I the only one who thinks 90s nostalgia is too soon? I mean watered down elements of the 90s carried so far into the 00s that it's not the same as 80s nostalgia in 2002.

Am I the only one who thinks 90s nostalgia is too soon? I mean watered down elements of the 90s carried so far into the 00s that it's not the same as 80s nostalgia in 2002.

Agree. Long 90's lasted 'till 2007.

Agree. Long 90's lasted 'till 2007.


I agree that the 00's were derivative of the 90's, but the 90's did have originality, had a peaceful atomsphere, and quality movies, music, and a better president, except for the very end part, which the 00's were just a cheap copy of  :P

I agree that the 00's were derivative of the 90's, but the 90's did have originality, had a peaceful atomsphere, and quality movies, music, and a better president, except for the very end part, which the 00's were just a cheap copy of  :P


I disagree.  I followed politics since 1998, and I studied a bit about politics in the early-mid 90s.  When Rap music was getting huge in the mid 90s, Bill Clinton had a huge PR press about how dark and vile rap music is and is influencing kids to do bad things.  Plus, in my preteen and early teen years I remember hearing all these news about kids committing suicide over Marilyn Manson music. Columbine incident happened at the end of the decade.  I didn't see the 90s as peaceful, if anything the 80s seemed like a much more innocent time, Cold War aside.

I disagree.  I followed politics since 1998, and I studied a bit about politics in the early-mid 90s.  When Rap music was getting huge in the mid 90s, Bill Clinton had a huge PR press about how dark and vile rap music is and is influencing kids to do bad things.  Plus, in my preteen and early teen years I remember hearing all these news about kids committing suicide over Marilyn Manson music. Columbine incident happened at the end of the decade.  I didn't see the 90s as peaceful, if anything the 80s seemed like a much more innocent time, Cold War aside.


Good point. I remember 1998 and 1999 as being quite dark with school shootings and Marylin Manson. However you must remember the 90s teen or preteen experience was not the same throughout the decade. I think it was much darker for preteens and teens the second half than in the first half. I think it would be much harder being 14 in 1999 than being 14 in 1990. The earlier 90s seemed more airy and innocent.

I didn't see the 90s as peaceful, if anything the 80s seemed like a much more innocent time, Cold War aside.

Well you know what they say.... 90s is a "darker" decade than the 80s.

Greetings to all 90s fans with some new music :):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb_zZ3xItPI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6jNeCQv2k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kww33eLc6Cs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCBIG28On0o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_05XAPR8q8

I disagree.  I followed politics since 1998, and I studied a bit about politics in the early-mid 90s.  When Rap music was getting huge in the mid 90s, Bill Clinton had a huge PR press about how dark and vile rap music is and is influencing kids to do bad things.  Plus, in my preteen and early teen years I remember hearing all these news about kids committing suicide over Marilyn Manson music. Columbine incident happened at the end of the decade.  I didn't see the 90s as peaceful, if anything the 80s seemed like a much more innocent time, Cold War aside.


I meant that the early and mid-nineties were a seemingly more peaceful time and that most of the 90's in general, save for a few isolated incidents seemed like that. I did exclude the late 90's of course (around the time numetal, marilyn manson, and preppies became popular again) but I realize I should have rephrased that.  That's when there was a backlash towards the early and mid nineties began, and a psuedo-80's culture (minus the creativity, innocence, and cocaine) returned back, more emphasis on superficiality, status, and "all about me" type of social attitude returned again and continued into the 00s.  The 80's were somewhat more innocent, but again those horrible attitudes towards materialism, hedonism were still present.  I get a feeling if you were not cool or into contemporary trends you were made fun of or bullied.  It was a very safe and sterile time, much like the 00s. 

Need more proof that the 90's are coming back? They're bringing back Furbys! FURBYS! :o 8-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=650XF8seUmM

Why would anyone bring those things back?! WHY?!

The early 90s weren't really peaceful.  You could say the culture was more 'innocent' and not as 'in your face' as the late 90s/00s, but crime rates were through the roof in the early 90s.

Need more proof that the 90's are coming back? They're bringing back Furbys! FURBYS! :o 8-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=650XF8seUmM

Why would anyone bring those things back?! WHY?!

That's so cool! I want one! :D

The early 90s weren't really peaceful.  You could say the culture was more 'innocent' and not as 'in your face' as the late 90s/00s, but crime rates were through the roof in the early 90s.


why was this

why was this


He must have refered to the Rodney King incident and the recession in the early 90s(which Grunge was fed from).  Otherwise the early 90s were probably the most innocent time to be a kid imo.  Even the music, with Mc Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Will Smith weren't cursing and in your face as the rest of the 90s were.

Need more proof that the 90's are coming back? They're bringing back Furbys! FURBYS! :o 8-P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=650XF8seUmM

Why would anyone bring those things back?! WHY?!


OMG Furbies?  :o ;D

He must have refered to the Rodney King incident and the recession in the early 90s(which Grunge was fed from).  Otherwise the early 90s were probably the most innocent time to be a kid imo.  Even the music, with Mc Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Will Smith weren't cursing and in your face as the rest of the 90s were.


oh i see  so grunge was fed from the 80s hangover

why was this


The crack epidemic had a lot to do with it.  There's also a theory that abortion becoming legal (in the 70s) caused crime to decrease later on in the 90s.


He must have refered to the Rodney King incident and the recession in the early 90s(which Grunge was fed from).  Otherwise the early 90s were probably the most innocent time to be a kid imo.  Even the music, with Mc Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Will Smith weren't cursing and in your face as the rest of the 90s were.


I'm just referring to crime rates in general, no specific event.

edit: found this
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

The crack epidemic had a lot to do with it.  There's also a theory that abortion becoming legal (in the 70s) caused crime to decrease later on in the 90s.

I'm just referring to crime rates in general, no specific event.

edit: found this
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm


Check this out, this is the crime rate between 1985-1997(biggest in 1989-1993).

1985 238,740,000 12,431,400 1,328,800 11,102,600 18,980 88,670 497,870 723,250 3,073,300 6,926,400 1,102,900
1986 240,132,887 13,211,869 1,489,169 11,722,700 20,613 91,459 542,775 834,322 3,241,410 7,257,153 1,224,137
1987 242,282,918 13,508,700 1,483,999 12,024,700 20,096 91,110 517,704 855,088 3,236,184 7,499,900 1,288,674
1988 245,807,000 13,923,100 1,566,220 12,356,900 20,680 92,490 542,970 910,090 3,218,100 7,705,900 1,432,900
1989 248,239,000 14,251,400 1,646,040 12,605,400 21,500 94,500 578,330 951,710 3,168,200 7,872,400 1,564,800
1990 248,709,873 14,475,600 1,820,130 12,655,500 23,440 102,560 639,270 1,054,860 3,073,900 7,945,700 1,635,900
1991 252,177,000 14,872,900 1,911,770 12,961,100 24,700 106,590 687,730 1,092,740 3,157,200 8,142,200 1,661,700
1992 255,082,000 14,438,200 1,932,270 12,505,900 23,760 109,060 672,480 1,126,970 2,979,900 7,915,200 1,610,800
1993 257,908,000 14,144,800 1,926,020 12,218,800 24,530 106,010 659,870 1,135,610 2,834,800 7,820,900 1,563,100
1994 260,341,000 13,989,500 1,857,670 12,131,900 23,330 102,220 618,950 1,113,180 2,712,800 7,879,800 1,539,300
1995 262,755,000 13,862,700 1,798,790 12,063,900 21,610 97,470 580,510 1,099,210 2,593,800 7,997,700 1,472,400
1996 265,228,572 13,493,863 1,688,540 11,805,300 19,650 96,250 535,590 1,037,050 2,506,400 7,904,700 1,394,200
1997 267,637,000 13,194,571 1,634,770 11,558,175 18,208 96,153 498,534 1,023,201 2,460,526 7,743,760 1,354,189
1998 270,296,000 12,475,634 1,531,044 10,944,590 16,914 93,103 446,625 974,402 2,329,950 7,373,886 1,240,754

I think that it had to do with the gang and drug war of the inner city during George H. W. Bush's term.  There was also a recession during these times.  Besides that facet of society, there was the fall of the Berlin Wall and enviromentalism, which is why I thought the early 90's seemed more peaceful.

Check this out, this is the crime rate between 1985-1997(biggest in 1989-1993).

1985 238,740,000 12,431,400 1,328,800 11,102,600 18,980 88,670 497,870 723,250 3,073,300 6,926,400 1,102,900
1986 240,132,887 13,211,869 1,489,169 11,722,700 20,613 91,459 542,775 834,322 3,241,410 7,257,153 1,224,137
1987 242,282,918 13,508,700 1,483,999 12,024,700 20,096 91,110 517,704 855,088 3,236,184 7,499,900 1,288,674
1988 245,807,000 13,923,100 1,566,220 12,356,900 20,680 92,490 542,970 910,090 3,218,100 7,705,900 1,432,900
1989 248,239,000 14,251,400 1,646,040 12,605,400 21,500 94,500 578,330 951,710 3,168,200 7,872,400 1,564,800
1990 248,709,873 14,475,600 1,820,130 12,655,500 23,440 102,560 639,270 1,054,860 3,073,900 7,945,700 1,635,900
1991 252,177,000 14,872,900 1,911,770 12,961,100 24,700 106,590 687,730 1,092,740 3,157,200 8,142,200 1,661,700
1992 255,082,000 14,438,200 1,932,270 12,505,900 23,760 109,060 672,480 1,126,970 2,979,900 7,915,200 1,610,800
1993 257,908,000 14,144,800 1,926,020 12,218,800 24,530 106,010 659,870 1,135,610 2,834,800 7,820,900 1,563,100
1994 260,341,000 13,989,500 1,857,670 12,131,900 23,330 102,220 618,950 1,113,180 2,712,800 7,879,800 1,539,300
1995 262,755,000 13,862,700 1,798,790 12,063,900 21,610 97,470 580,510 1,099,210 2,593,800 7,997,700 1,472,400
1996 265,228,572 13,493,863 1,688,540 11,805,300 19,650 96,250 535,590 1,037,050 2,506,400 7,904,700 1,394,200
1997 267,637,000 13,194,571 1,634,770 11,558,175 18,208 96,153 498,534 1,023,201 2,460,526 7,743,760 1,354,189
1998 270,296,000 12,475,634 1,531,044 10,944,590 16,914 93,103 446,625 974,402 2,329,950 7,373,886 1,240,754


Even though I have no idea what any of that means with no titles, the #s from the early 90s clearly stick out more lol.

Also, in 2010 the murder rate was as low as it's been since 1963.  Could it be because of access to information (the internet), people are more enlightened now?

Anyways, not trying to get off topic.  I'd say the 90s are easily old enough to be nostalgic about, and I would consider the early 90s retro.  A LOT has changed over the last 20 years...

The crack epidemic had a lot to do with it.  There's also a theory that abortion becoming legal (in the 70s) caused crime to decrease later on in the 90s.

I'm just referring to crime rates in general, no specific event.

edit: found this
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm



The early 90s seemed like something moms didnt want their young kids to see

He must have refered to the Rodney King incident and the recession in the early 90s(which Grunge was fed from).  Otherwise the early 90s were probably the most innocent time to be a kid imo.  Even the music, with Mc Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Will Smith weren't cursing and in your face as the rest of the 90s were.


The early 90's also had Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, 2Pac, etc. The early 90's crime rate was mainly due to the crack epidemic, and many believe the recession to be a cause. However, crime rates continued to drop during the Great Recession of the late 00's/early 10's.

The early 90's also had Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, 2Pac, etc. The early 90's crime rate was mainly due to the crack epidemic, and many believe the recession to be a cause. However, crime rates continued to drop during the Great Recession of the late 00's/early 10's.


The people you listed were more mid 90s instead of early 90s culture. The high crime was more in the inner cities. The early 90s was a very innocent and peaceful time in suburbia. The late 90s, on the other hand, was a much harder time for suburban teens and preteens aged 11/12+ given all the bullying, bomb threats, and events like Columbine.

Check this out, this is the crime rate between 1985-1997(biggest in 1989-1993).

1985 238,740,000 12,431,400 1,328,800 11,102,600 18,980 88,670 497,870 723,250 3,073,300 6,926,400 1,102,900
1986 240,132,887 13,211,869 1,489,169 11,722,700 20,613 91,459 542,775 834,322 3,241,410 7,257,153 1,224,137
1987 242,282,918 13,508,700 1,483,999 12,024,700 20,096 91,110 517,704 855,088 3,236,184 7,499,900 1,288,674
1988 245,807,000 13,923,100 1,566,220 12,356,900 20,680 92,490 542,970 910,090 3,218,100 7,705,900 1,432,900
1989 248,239,000 14,251,400 1,646,040 12,605,400 21,500 94,500 578,330 951,710 3,168,200 7,872,400 1,564,800
1990 248,709,873 14,475,600 1,820,130 12,655,500 23,440 102,560 639,270 1,054,860 3,073,900 7,945,700 1,635,900
1991 252,177,000 14,872,900 1,911,770 12,961,100 24,700 106,590 687,730 1,092,740 3,157,200 8,142,200 1,661,700
1992 255,082,000 14,438,200 1,932,270 12,505,900 23,760 109,060 672,480 1,126,970 2,979,900 7,915,200 1,610,800
1993 257,908,000 14,144,800 1,926,020 12,218,800 24,530 106,010 659,870 1,135,610 2,834,800 7,820,900 1,563,100
1994 260,341,000 13,989,500 1,857,670 12,131,900 23,330 102,220 618,950 1,113,180 2,712,800 7,879,800 1,539,300
1995 262,755,000 13,862,700 1,798,790 12,063,900 21,610 97,470 580,510 1,099,210 2,593,800 7,997,700 1,472,400
1996 265,228,572 13,493,863 1,688,540 11,805,300 19,650 96,250 535,590 1,037,050 2,506,400 7,904,700 1,394,200
1997 267,637,000 13,194,571 1,634,770 11,558,175 18,208 96,153 498,534 1,023,201 2,460,526 7,743,760 1,354,189
1998 270,296,000 12,475,634 1,531,044 10,944,590 16,914 93,103 446,625 974,402 2,329,950 7,373,886 1,240,754


crime was up more in the 80's.

The early 90's also had Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, 2Pac, etc. The early 90's crime rate was mainly due to the crack epidemic, and many believe the recession to be a cause. However, crime rates continued to drop during the Great Recession of the late 00's/early 10's.


and that's where kids had some influence.

Teen Vogue, august 2012. The Deee-Lite era all over again, with those typical early 90s flowery clothes *grins*.

There's more at http://forums.thefashionspot.com/showpost.php?p=10792063&postcount=608 .

http://i.imgur.com/LT6aFl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qc8fn.jpg


Wild West?  ??? :D

and that's where kids had some influence.


Gangsta rap is what everyone emulated

Don't think so. You know, in theory it should be a 20 year cycle, but people don't view the 2010s as being different from the 2000s, so I'd say 90s nostalgia won't happen full force until the early 2020s. By then the 90s will be 20-30 years ago and completely removed from whatever the present trends are, so I'd say by then it will be in swing. Believe it or not, I still think 2012 is pretty connected to the 90s.

Don't think so. You know, in theory it should be a 20 year cycle, but people don't view the 2010s as being different from the 2000s, so I'd say 90s nostalgia won't happen full force until the early 2020s. By then the 90s will be 20-30 years ago and completely removed from whatever the present trends are, so I'd say by then it will be in swing. Believe it or not, I still think 2012 is pretty connected to the 90s.


false  80s nostalgia is on the way out

its not a opinion its a  fact

80's are now the retro decade. Everything that's remembered as old and tacky is pretty much all 80's. 90's is the nostalgic decade that people have great memories of today and want to go back to.

false  80s nostalgia is on the way out

its not a opinion its a  fact


Even 1950s nostalgia is still a market, I'd say 80s nostalgia is only beginning, though yes, unfortunately interest is already waning a bit, because anyone under 30 has at best a very limited memory of the late 80s and obviously anyone born after 1986/87 has no memory of the 80s at all or wasn't even alive then. What's scary is even some younger old people, like say people in their 60s, I've heard talk about the 80s nostalgically.  :\'(