Drew Barrymore wrote one at age 14.
Miley Cyrus wrote one at the age of 15 or 16.
Linsey Lohan wrote one & I believe Paris Hinton also wrote one.

Now, the newest is Bristol Palin at the age of 20.  ::) 

I was always under the impression that memoirs or autobiographies were written when people hit their mid-life crisis or they hit a certain age of maturity where they look back at their lives reflect how they could have done things better or differently.

So, these kids (and yes they are KIDS) think that they have hit that certain age of maturity? Maybe they are going through a mid-life crisis. (Actually, I think their lives are IN crisis but that is another issue.) Do they not think that there will be more to come? I know, they will probably write another one in another couple of years. (I use the term "write" loosely because I'm sure all of these people did not write the books themselves but used a ghostwriter.)


Thoughts? Comments?


Cat

I don't think they are.  Their agents get someone to write them and make a quick short buck. They tend to be irrelevant.

I don't think they are.  Their agents get someone to write them and make a quick short buck. They tend to be irrelevant.


Only "tend"?  You are MUCH to kind

Two words:  Anne Frank

Two words:  Anne Frank



Anne Frank did NOT write memoirs or an autobiography. She wrote a diary which was published posthumously.



Cat

Anne Frank did NOT write memoirs or an autobiography. She wrote a diary which was published posthumously.



Cat


Exactly.  No comparison. 

No one should write anything ... unless they have something interesting to say!  .... and those punks, previously mentioned, don't qualify!

Two words:  Anne Frank


Whaaa? Bristol Palin ain't no Anne Frank!  Although...I wouldn't complain if she and her family got sequestered in an attic and nobody heard of them again!
:-\\

I got a Beach Boys song in my head.  I don't think much  of a memoirs can be made that soon. 

Haven't heard from LB lately on this thread,  Wonder why?

My life is as plain as white bread. I don't think anyone would read my biography!  :P

Let's see. I was born in '88 and then I went to school and then blah blah blah.

Sure, like everyone my life isn't perfect, but compared to other peoples' it's pretty boring. http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/juul.gif

Justin Bieber is 17, and had a theatrical film ABOUT HIS LIFE.

17

When I was 17, I was failing high school.  He's making billions of dollars lol

Justin Bieber is 17, and had a theatrical film ABOUT HIS LIFE.

17

When I was 17, I was failing high school.  He's making billions of dollars lol


Does "My Summer Vacation" count as a memoir?
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I can see thousands of people reading my book  ::)    blaming my mom for breaking my Pick- N- Save toys sounds funny though.  Good for a little psychology  story.

I couldn't publish an honest memoir until certain family members are dead.  I'm thinking of hastening the process!
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I think you should wait until you're at least 30 to write a memoir, just an opinion.

I think you should wait until you're at least 30 to write a memoir, just an opinion.


50(at least)

I couldn't publish an honest memoir until certain family members are dead.  I'm thinking of hastening the process!
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That would certainly increase the sales. ;D

My life is as plain as white bread. I don't think anyone would read my biography!  :P

Let's see. I was born in '88 and then I went to school and then blah blah blah.

Sure, like everyone my life isn't perfect, but compared to other peoples' it's pretty boring. http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/06/juul.gif


Doesn't look like you had a interesting life.

Justin Bieber is 17, and had a theatrical film ABOUT HIS LIFE.

17

When I was 17, I was failing high school.  He's making billions of dollars lol


What about Selena Gomez?

Does "My Summer Vacation" count as a memoir?
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/12/glasses9.gif



The first day on my vacation, I woke up
Then I went downtown to look for a job
Then I hung out in front of the drugstore

The second day on my
Summer vacation, I woke up
Then I went downtown to look for a job
Then I hung out in front of the drugstore

The third day on my summer vacation
I woke up
Then I went downtown to look for a job

Then I got a job
Keeping people from hanging out
In front of the drugstore

The fourth day on my...




Cat

I think you should wait until you're at least 30 to write a memoir, just an opinion.


Unless you're living in a war zone or dying of a terminal illness.

Unless you're living in a war zone or dying of a terminal illness.


Well that would change a lot of things wouldn't it?  ;D

50(at least)


Okay we'll average it out with 35 or 40!  ;)

Or why not wait till you're 5?

Or why not wait till you're 5?


5? Unless you're a genius at 5, no one will want to hear your short 'life' story.  ;D

5? Unless you're a genius at 5, no one will want to hear your short 'life' story.  ;D


How about the moment you came out the womb? ;D

How about the moment you came out the womb? ;D


How about when you were in the womb?  :D ;D

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Or why not wait till you're 5?


...and then mummsy changed my nappies.  Boy, did they stick, all that ghastly formula she fed my.  And then a new nappie, more of that stuff, and a bit of sleep.  And then...

And the "big three" about whom this thread was started could hardly say much more of any interests, each being
AIR HEADS

Well that would change a lot of things wouldn't it?  ;D


All rules of the game would go out the window!  :o

How about when you were in the womb?  :D ;D

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsdOiFRIz-V-R8hSAox-yunKG_qQsTV0kbZeeHymgoZ4Gvhl9d


What about writing memoirs of your past life?  :D

How about when you were in the womb?  :D ;D

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRsdOiFRIz-V-R8hSAox-yunKG_qQsTV0kbZeeHymgoZ4Gvhl9d


nothing but just kicking and screaming.

What about writing memoirs of your past life?  :D



What past life? You're just a small tiny sperm.

What past life? You're just a small tiny sperm.



You have no idea what a past life is. I for one, have lived many times. Don't know for sure how many past lives I have had.



Cat

You have no idea what a past life is. I for one, have lived many times. Don't know for sure how many past lives I have had.



I was Caligula's pool boy!
:-[

You have no idea what a past life is. I for one, have lived many times. Don't know for sure how many past lives I have had.



Cat


I have never had a past life,I always lived 1 life and 1 life only.

I have never had a past life,I always lived 1 life and 1 life only.



Somehow I believe that.



Cat

Howard was Caligula.
:-\\

You have no idea what a past life is. I for one, have lived many times. Don't know for sure how many past lives I have had.



Cat


I read somewhere I was a brutal and bloody warrior from medieval times. That could explain my thirst for vengeance and my explosive anger problems during my teen years!  :-\\

What about writing memoirs of your past life?  :D



I believe in past life, but finding a trustworthy past life reader is hard.

I have never had a past life,I always lived 1 life and 1 life only.


If you did have a past life God would've erased your memory so you would have no memory of it. So I guess you can't be too sure.  :(

what is a past life?   

what is a past life?     


See "reicarnation"

Somehow I believe that.



Cat


Why would I want to live a past life? ???

Howard was Caligula.
:-\\


You mean in the film?

If you did have a past life God would've erased your memory so you would have no memory of it. So I guess you can't be too sure.  :(


I was just a baby in my past life then I grew up.

Two words:  Anne Frank



Cat is right, that is a diary and wasn't meant to be read, but shows a rare depth.  It is all the more reason they should be ashamed to call the self-centered drivel "memoirs"

Drew Barrymore wrote one at age 14.
Miley Cyrus wrote one at the age of 15 or 16.
Linsey Lohan wrote one & I believe Paris Hinton also wrote one.

Now, the newest is Bristol Palin at the age of 20.  ::)  

I was always under the impression that memoirs or autobiographies were written when people hit their mid-life crisis or they hit a certain age of maturity where they look back at their lives reflect how they could have done things better or differently.

So, these kids (and yes they are KIDS) think that they have hit that certain age of maturity? Maybe they are going through a mid-life crisis. (Actually, I think their lives are IN crisis but that is another issue.) Do they not think that there will be more to come? I know, they will probably write another one in another couple of years. (I use the term "write" loosely because I'm sure all of these people did not write the books themselves but used a ghostwriter.)


Thoughts? Comments?


Cat

From a literary standpoint it's absurd for someone of that age to write their memoirs, but the cynic in me says that from a business standpoint not only is it a sound decision, but it almost seems like would be a BAD decision for them NOT to.

This isn't about them feeling that they've reached a certain level of maturity. The celebrities you named have agents who know that in all likelihood they might be good for 20, maybe 25 minutes of fame tops so they're trying to grab as much dough as they can while they can.

How else could you explain this?  :o :o :o

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You mentioned Bristol Palin as an example. Aside from being Sarah Palin's daughter, what else could she be famous for? Although you can never be certain about these things, it's probably a safe bet that in another 5 years Bristol Palin will fade into complete obscurity. I mean, what's Amy Carter up to these days? I thought so.

And if Bristol Palin waited until she was 50 to write her memoirs, would anyone buy it? Would anyone care by then? So why shouldn't she write her memoirs right now while she still has the public eye? Of course it'll be a lame book and I have zero interest in reading it but the sad thing is, so many people in this country have such a big boner for celebrity gossip that it'll probably fly off the shelves of Barnes & Noble.

And Bristol Palin knows this, or at least her agent does.  :P

I was just a baby in my past life then I grew up.


That's not your past life, that is your childhood.  Reincarnation is the belief that you were someone else before you were born as Howard.  It's the idea that someone from the past died and their spirit was reborn as you.

From a literary standpoint it's absurd for someone of that age to write their memoirs, but the cynic in me says that from a business standpoint not only is it a sound decision, but it almost seems like would be a BAD decision for them NOT to.





That is if you believe making a buck is the being and end all.  The problem is this drivel will follow them all of their days, and lives change.  What is written is these books will for good or ill follow them, and in all probability strain their credibility.

That's not your past life, that is your childhood.   Reincarnation is the belief that you were someone else before you were born as Howard.  It's the idea that someone from the past died and their spirit was reborn as you.


I was never reincarnated.

That is if you believe making a buck is the being and end all.  The problem is this drivel will follow them all of their days, and lives change.  What is written is these books will for good or ill follow them, and in all probability strain their credibility.


If I've got a billion dollars, why would I give a wet slap about credibility?

Memoirs:

Seven a.m. wakin' up in the mornin,
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs,
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal,
Seein' everything, the time is goin',
Tickin' on and on, everybody's rushin',
Gotta get down to the bus stop,
Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends...

OK, I skipped a few parts where I played dungeons and dragons in the classrooms of non-fundie teachers.  And the video games.  And the computer programming.  And when I got to college, the drinking.  And the video games.  And the computer programming.  And being able to walk to class instead of getting down to the bus stop or worrying about whether to kick in the front seat or sit in the back. 

Some time after I wrote my memoirs at 20, I got a day job.

Fun, fun, fun, fun.

If I've got a billion dollars, why would I give a wet slap about credibility?

Memoirs:

Seven a.m. wakin' up in the mornin,
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs,
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal,
Seein' everything, the time is goin',
Tickin' on and on, everybody's rushin',
Gotta get down to the bus stop,
Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends...

OK, I skipped a few parts where I played dungeons and dragons in the classrooms of non-fundie teachers.  And the video games.  And the computer programming.  And when I got to college, the drinking.  And the video games.  And the computer programming.  And being able to walk to class instead of getting down to the bus stop or worrying about whether to kick in the front seat or sit in the back. 

Some time after I wrote my memoirs at 20, I got a day job.

Fun, fun, fun, fun.


That's Rebecca Black's memoir.

And the "big three" about whom this thread was started could hardly say much more of any interests, each being
AIR HEADS


Who you callin' "Airhead"?  And what does Thomas Dolby have to do with this?

Ll4N_pvoSXI

Besides, they'd never get the reference because it came out a decade before they were even born.

(The chocolate bar mold I could do.  Building a robot capable of doing what a bunch of black-suited Kabuki players could do would take a while.)

I was never reincarnated.


me neither

That is if you believe making a buck is the being and end all.  The problem is this drivel will follow them all of their days, and lives change.  What is written is these books will for good or ill follow them, and in all probability strain their credibility.



If I've got a billion dollars, why would I give a wet slap about credibility?

^What he said.

I mean, you and I may not necessarily believe that making a buck is the being and end all, but do you think Miley Cyrus and/or Bristol Palin give a rat's behind about their credibility? Did they ever have any credibility to begin with? It's not as if these are brilliant, talented artists who have any concern about whether or not they are perceived as being "sellouts."

Now more than ever we live in the age of disposable celebrities, who know that their time in the limelight is limited and so (as I said earlier) they are trying to make as much money as they possibly can while they have the opportunity. And unfortunately it's working.  :-\\

I was never reincarnated.


First, How do you know?  Second, I suppose you're right

Cat tells me that in a previous life I was an Irish fisherman or sailor, probably lost at sea.  That's why I love sailing, love my Guinness, and will not drink that Orange whiskey.  Three hussahas for Grace O'Malley, up the rebels

Now more than ever we live in the age of disposable celebrities, who know that their time in the limelight is limited and so (as I said earlier) they are trying to make as much money as they possibly can while they have the opportunity. And unfortunately it's working.  :-\\


Yeah!  Not like back in the good old days :)

Any minute now, Pop Will Eat Itself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdfNh6P_A3g

You don't have to have integrity,
You don't have to have ability,
So listen kiddies, it's true what they say,
You don't need respectability!

 - PWEI, Hit the High-Tech Groove, 1987, sampling Mel and Kim's Respectable and Whistle's Just Buggin' (Nothing Serious).  You'll also recognize the intro from Just Buggin from multiple late-80s dance tracks.

Write such great journal entries that after you die, your family will publish them as your posthumous memoir.

Ezekiel Jedidiah Winslow:  Memoirs of a no-count drunken sonofabitch who left us nothing but this here guitar and an empty bottle of booze...

See, that way, when you die of liver failure under the pool table with nothing to your name but another appointment with your parole officer, your kids will be able to sell your twisted story to Oprah (or whoever) for a cool million!
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First, How do you know?  Second, I suppose you're right

Cat tells me that in a previous life I was an Irish fisherman or sailor, probably lost at sea.  That's why I love sailing, love my Guinness, and will not drink that Orange whiskey.  Three hussahas for Grace O'Malley, up the rebels


I don't know what I was during my reincarnation.

You have no idea what a past life is. I for one, have lived many times. Don't know for sure how many past lives I have had.



Cat


The last time around, I was a worm.  :-\\

The last time around, I was a worm.  :-\\





I know I was a cat in at least one-if not many of them.  ;)




Cat

I was just a sperm zygote in my past life.

The last time around, I was a worm.  :-\\




What were you doing as a worm? ???

I don't know what I was during my reincarnation.


Not a surprise.

In my case, Cat may be right, because I always wanted to be on the water and took to whatever craft I encountered.  My first sail was a solo on a one person little boat.  I easily beat to windward (sailed into the wind - ask if you want the details) and "ran" back, sailing before the wind.  Seen many a sailboat owner have trouble beating to windward.  To me, it just comes (super?)naturally

First the question is, did they really write their memoirs, or is someone else simply writing up a bio? Second, how many of these early bios end up at the dollar stores?


plenty of them.

Not just no, but HECK NO!  There are people who have written them in their later tees who shouldn't have written them THEN, either!  Honestly, there are people who have written "memoirs" who NEVER should have and others who never did that I wish would have!

Whaaa? Bristol Palin ain't no Anne Frank!  Although...I wouldn't complain if she and her family got sequestered in an attic and nobody heard of them again!
:-\\


This post deserves karma  ;D

5? Unless you're a genius at 5, no one will want to hear your short 'life' story.  ;D


Mattie Stephanik is an exception to the rule.  The kid was wise beyond his years


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I don't think they are.  Their agents get someone to write them and make a quick short buck. They tend to be irrelevant.


I'm inclined to agree.  Either the books were generated by publicists or they were commissioned by publishers to boost sales

You have no idea what a past life is. I for one, have lived many times. Don't know for sure how many past lives I have had.



Cat


I'm pretty sure I've had at least one past life.

Not just no, but HECK NO!  There are people who have written them in their later tees who shouldn't have written them THEN, either!  Honestly, there are people who have written "memoirs" who NEVER should have and others who never did that I wish would have!


I think I disagree with Drew Barrymore being included with Miley, Paris, Lindsay and Bristol. By 14 Drew had a full fledged career and was successfully overcoming a drinking problem and working on reinventing herself. Plus there's the whole Barrymore legacy thing so yeah Drew can write her memoir at 14 the others need to work on fixing themselves before "opening" up to the world.

I think I disagree with Drew Barrymore being included with Miley, Paris, Lindsay and Bristol. By 14 Drew had a full fledged career and was successfully overcoming a drinking problem and working on reinventing herself. Plus there's the whole Barrymore legacy thing so yeah Drew can write her memoir at 14 the others need to work on fixing themselves before "opening" up to the world.


She's not even from the same era as those girls, Lol.

I like Drew a lot. I'll admit, she's not perfect and some of the troubles she went through during the late 80s and early 90s was of her own doing, but she decided she was stronger than her transgressions and she picked herself up.

Despite her being very wild during that time, she seems geniunely humble and smart. She was also strong enough to overcome her drinking problem, which is hard for any alcoholic.

Casey Anthony is said to have a book deal

Casey Anthony is said to have a book deal


Now there is a book I will never read.

Casey Anthony is said to have a book deal


Who knows? It could be an interesting read.

I think I disagree with Drew Barrymore being included with Miley, Paris, Lindsay and Bristol. By 14 Drew had a full fledged career and was successfully overcoming a drinking problem and working on reinventing herself. Plus there's the whole Barrymore legacy thing so yeah Drew can write her memoir at 14 the others need to work on fixing themselves before "opening" up to the world.



When I first started this thread, I wasn't too sure to include Drew in the lot. Her story was a bit different. It wasn't so much of her memoirs as it is telling about her struggle. She definitely had SOMETHING to say-unlike these other bimbos.



Cat

When I first started this thread, I wasn't too sure to include Drew in the lot. Her story was a bit different. It wasn't so much of her memoirs as it is telling about her struggle. She definitely had SOMETHING to say-unlike these other bimbos.



Cat


Thats good to hear read  :)




Casey Anthony is said to have a book deal


Should I know who that is?  :-\\

Should I know who that is?  :-\\



Are you not paying attention to your own news?

I don't know all the details but here's a link to the wiki page about her.

Are you not paying attention to your own news?

I don't know all the details but here's a link to the wiki page about her.


Oh her. To be honest I haven't been following the story/case.

I've only been watching dvr stuff for months because I'm perpetually at 9% and have no room/time for anything else

Oh her. To be honest I haven't been following the story/case.

I've only been watching dvr stuff for months because I'm perpetually at 9% and have no room/time for anything else


I only know about her because of facebook

I only know about her because of facebook
I saw the response to the verdict but didn't really commit her name to my mental rolodex.  Just a dime a dozen of moms who's murdered her kid and got away with it....sadly it happens too often