Eminem, Jay-Z, Lil' Wayne, and Nicki Minaj is about the only real hip-hop we still hear on Top 40 radio these days.  I don't count crossover stuff like Taio Cruz, Flo-Rida, Nelly, Pitbull, etc real hip hop as they have evolved significantly away their roots, enough that they sound out of place on an urban radio station.  How soon do you think we are to a complete disappearance of classic '00s style hip-hop from mainstream radio?  I personally think 2011 could be the final year of the rap era.  The ultimate direction of pop music is away from hip-hop but music tastes must be slowly molded, which is why I think there has been so much urban influenced electro-pop...to ensure a smooth transition.  2009 was very heavy on urban electro-pop which became significantly less urban in 2010 as a new wave of teen pop took the spotlight.  What does everybody else think?

The "Rap Era" has been over for a while really.  The era started to end in 2006 and the first half of 2007, when the first hints of the current Dance-Pop started to surface, Pop-Emo hit it's peak, and Rap albums sales went down the toilet.  The Teen Pop you mention also got it's start in this time too (see: High School Musical and Hannah Montana).  It then underwent a sudden revival in the second half of 2007 and the first half of 2008 (the era of "Crank That", "Low", and "Lollipop") and started to peter in the year's second half.

Much of today's popular rap music incorporates a humongous amount of pop influence, you're right about that.  Even the local hip-hop/R&B station around here has started playing pop music like Lady Gaga.  This also goes neatly with so many pop songs having a token rap verse.  The end result is that Rap music still has a mainstream presence, but it's been increasingly moving in a decidedly "non-Rap" direction, if that makes any sense.  In any case, I'd say right now rap music seems to be moving in two different directions:

1. The dancey pop-rap favored by rappers like Flo Rida
2. The more introspective rap favored by rappers like B.o.B. and Eminem

Both trends have made it to the Top Ten this year.  Occasionally the lower end of the Top 40 gets stuff like "Teach Me How To Dougey" that are leftovers of the mid-00s Snap era, but those are only played on the same urban stations increasingly playing pop music.  In any case, it'll be interesting to see which path the genre takes.  For what it's worth, I'll take the Rap music of 2010 over the Rap of 2006 or 2007.  Say what you will, I'll take songs like "Club Can't Handle Me" and "Airplanes" over "Laffy Taffy" or "Grillz".

I remember the old school rap started in the late 70's and it continued in the 80's.

Rap is still huge right now, I don't know what you're all talking about?  ???
Sure, one day it'll fade from the spotlight, but it might actually still be huge during the 2010's. I'm guessing by the 2020's people will be so sick of it that rock will start to come back; now that'll be cool!  8)

It's been the dominant music in pop culture since about 2002.

I remember the old school rap started in the late 70's and it continued in the 80's.


Yup, rap sure started in the 70's, but I don't think it really rose to the mainstream until about the mid-80s or so.

Rap is still huge right now, I don't know what you're all talking about?  ???
Sure, one day it'll fade from the spotlight, but it might actually still be huge during the 2010's. I'm guessing by the 2020's people will be so sick of it that rock will start to come back; now that'll be cool!  8)

It's been the dominant music in pop culture since about 2002.


It's not dominant in pop culture anymore, there certainly has been a decrease in the popularity(and dominance) of rap music for the past few years. Sure it is still kind of popular but it's lost the dominance it had in mainstream music in the 00's. But I think rap music will still be popular(but different style) in mainstream music for some time(maybe 10-15 years). I don't know if it will ever again be so dominant like it was during the 00's(esp. '03 to '07). The 00's style bling bling/ringtone/crunk rap era is over though.

I long for the days when the big rap action was Snoop Doggy Dogg doing "Nuthin but a G-Thang" and "Gin and Juice". And also rap classics like "Colors" and "Fight Da Power"...

That was REAL rap, not this 'shawty got a groove thang, shawty shake your poon tang' stuff that we hear these days.

Yup, rap sure started in the 70's, but I don't think it really rose to the mainstream until about the mid-80s or so.


and the funk group Fatback had a hit entitled King Curtis in 1979 which was a rap hit.

I long for the days when the big rap action was Snoop Doggy Dogg doing "Nuthin but a G-Thang" and "Gin and Juice". And also rap classics like "Colors" and "Fight Da Power"...

That was REAL rap, not this 'shawty got a groove thang, shawty shake your poon tang' stuff that we hear these days.



that's ridiculous rap. ::)

that's ridiculous rap. ::)


Yeah its been a long time since we had the street-authentic, hard core rap from the likes of Snoop, Dre, NWA, and Public Enemy.

Back in those days, men were men, and women were biches and hoes.  ;)

How I long to the original stuff like Gin and Juice...

Later on that day
My homie Doctor Dre came through
With a gang of Tanqueray
And a fat ass J
Of come bubonic chronic
that made me choke
This ain't no joke
I had to back up off of it
And sit my cup down
Tanqueray and chronic
Yeah I'm F-ed up now
But it ain't no stoppin
I'm still poppin
Dre got some biches from the city of compton
To serve me,
Not with a cherry on top
Cause when I b*** my n**,
I'm raisin' up off the cot
Dont get upset girl,
That's just how it goes
I don't love you hoes,
I'm out the door
Rollin' down the street
Smokin' Indo
Sippin' on gin and juice
Laid back

Rap is still huge right now, I don't know what you're all talking about?  ???
Sure, one day it'll fade from the spotlight, but it might actually still be huge during the 2010's. I'm guessing by the 2020's people will be so sick of it that rock will start to come back; now that'll be cool!  8)

It's been the dominant music in pop culture since about 2002.


It became dominant sometime in the '01-02 timeframe, peaked in '05-'07 and started to really lose that dominance in '09.  Unlike most people who grew up with hip-hop in the '90s, I personally didn't mind the crunk/glam/ringtone rap of the '00s.  I also liked the more upbeat direction it appeared to be headed in '08 and '09.  Then Justin Bieber came on the scene and changed everything.

In my area, you don't hear much rap on the radio anymore (our hip-hop/r&b station just changed to a top 40).  About the only place they are still playing it is in nightclubs.  On the radio, its all garbage like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Taylor Swift, Enrique Iglesias, etc.  Many songs still have a rap verse thrown in but it has little resemblance to '90s or even '00s rap.  I personally would take "Crank Dat Soulja Boy" any day over Bieber's high pitched voice singing "U Smile, I Smile."

It became dominant sometime in the '01-02 timeframe, peaked in '05-'07 and started to really lose that dominance in '09.  Unlike most people who grew up with hip-hop in the '90s, I personally didn't mind the crunk/glam/ringtone rap of the '00s.  I also liked the more upbeat direction it appeared to be headed in '08 and '09.  Then Justin Bieber came on the scene and changed everything.

In my area, you don't hear much rap on the radio anymore (our hip-hop/r&b station just changed to a top 40).  About the only place they are still playing it is in nightclubs.  On the radio, its all garbage like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Taylor Swift, Enrique Iglesias, etc.  Many songs still have a rap verse thrown in but it has little resemblance to '90s or even '00s rap.  I personally would take "Crank Dat Soulja Boy" any day over Bieber's high pitched voice singing "U Smile, I Smile."


I would rather listen to Justin Bieber than 00's rap about bling bling and hoe hoes!

But I won't count it against you for having an opinion.  :o

Back in the early 80's rapping was about having fun,looking at hot women,going to parties and fun dancing.

It became dominant sometime in the '01-02 timeframe, peaked in '05-'07 and started to really lose that dominance in '09.  Unlike most people who grew up with hip-hop in the '90s, I personally didn't mind the crunk/glam/ringtone rap of the '00s.  I also liked the more upbeat direction it appeared to be headed in '08 and '09.  Then Justin Bieber came on the scene and changed everything.

In my area, you don't hear much rap on the radio anymore (our hip-hop/r&b station just changed to a top 40).  About the only place they are still playing it is in nightclubs.  On the radio, its all garbage like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Taylor Swift, Enrique Iglesias, etc.  Many songs still have a rap verse thrown in but it has little resemblance to '90s or even '00s rap.  I personally would take "Crank Dat Soulja Boy" any day over Bieber's high pitched voice singing "U Smile, I Smile."


I see a few distinct directions music is going(and might be heading later in the decade), the trancey euro style(Rihanna's new song, David Guetta), trashy electropop/rap(Ke$ha, Far East Movement), the disneypop you hate so much(Justin Bieber), left-field indie music, and alternative introspective rap/pop. Miley Cyrus hasn't seemed that popular in 2010 actually, but 2010 is Bieber-mania.

Rap/hip-hop is homogenizing with other pop styles.
8)

Rap/hip hop does seem to be waning in the mainstream. I blame oversaturation, and people getting tired of the played out "gangsta" image and the bling and "spinnaz". If 50 Cent were to come onto the scene today, he'd be nowhere near as big. I think more mature Kid Cudi-esqe alt-hop will become prominent in the 2010s, maybe as a reaction against 00s glam rap and gangsta rap.

Top 40 pop seems to be very gradually moving from the hip hop influences it had throughout the 90s and 00s back into a "whiter" sound. I think by 2013 the transition will be complete and there will be little to no hip hop influence in pop music.

Either way it will be interesting to see. I think 2010s music will be very different from 2000s music.

It became dominant sometime in the '01-02 timeframe, peaked in '05-'07 and started to really lose that dominance in '09.  Unlike most people who grew up with hip-hop in the '90s, I personally didn't mind the crunk/glam/ringtone rap of the '00s.  I also liked the more upbeat direction it appeared to be headed in '08 and '09.  Then Justin Bieber came on the scene and changed everything.

In my area, you don't hear much rap on the radio anymore (our hip-hop/r&b station just changed to a top 40).  About the only place they are still playing it is in nightclubs.  On the radio, its all garbage like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Taylor Swift, Enrique Iglesias, etc.  Many songs still have a rap verse thrown in but it has little resemblance to '90s or even '00s rap.  I personally would take "Crank Dat Soulja Boy" any day over Bieber's high pitched voice singing "U Smile, I Smile."


I think you overrate Justin Bieber and his influence on the music scene.  All the trends going on in music right now were already underway before he popped on the scene.  Heck, Bieber himself is just an updated, solo, poppier version of the Jonas Brothers, the previous pretty boys that tween girls couldn't get enough of.  In any case, his influence with anyone beyond, say, junior high school girls, is quite minimal.  Then again, I'm saying this from a college student perspective, where Justin Bieber is completely irrelevant.


I see a few distinct directions music is going(and might be heading later in the decade), the trancey euro style(Rihanna's new song, David Guetta), trashy electropop/rap(Ke$ha, Far East Movement), the disneypop you hate so much(Justin Bieber), left-field indie music, and alternative introspective rap/pop. Miley Cyrus hasn't seemed that popular in 2010 actually, but 2010 is Bieber-mania.


Justin Bieber isn't actually from Disney.  Pop music from Disney itself is on the decline.  Miley Cyrus and Jonas Brothers (seems like they've largely disappeared from the music scene like their Hanson brothers ancestors) are being cast aside in favor of non-Disney Justin Bieber.  However, his target audience is exactly the same and so that tween pop style music Disney started isn't going away anytime soon.  Aside from that, you are definitely right about the various directions of music.  Personally, I think the first two trends you mention ("trancey euro style", "trashy electropop/rap) will define the early 2010s, but won't have much a place in the mid-10s.  We'll see how things turn out though.  Interesting times my friend!

Probably...

Who do you have, Kanye West? 50 Cent? These guys are Hip-Hop...not Rap.

I think Hip-Hop killed Rap, like Disco tried to kill Rock but Disco basically committed suicide in 1980.

Probably...

Who do you have, Kanye West? 50 Cent? These guys are Hip-Hop...not Rap.

I think Hip-Hop killed Rap, like Disco tried to kill Rock but Disco basically committed suicide in 1980.


Well I don't know if it was suicide.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQfCcsqQ0E

Rap isn't dead but the crunk era is essentially over. Rappers traded in their sagging pants, grillz, and bling for tight pants and neon.

Rap isn't dead but the crunk era is essentially over. Rappers traded in their sagging pants, grillz, and bling for tight pants and neon.


I hope they are gonna keep the bling-bling pimp cups though.

Well I don't know if it was suicide.   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpQfCcsqQ0E


Burn,Baby Burn Disco Inferno. ;D

I think Hip-Hop killed Rap, like Disco tried to kill Rock but Disco basically committed suicide in 1980.

not quite in 1982 there was a group called Secret Weapon's Must be The Music,almost like fun rap.

I think you overrate Justin Bieber and his influence on the music scene.  All the trends going on in music right now were already underway before he popped on the scene.  Heck, Bieber himself is just an updated, solo, poppier version of the Jonas Brothers, the previous pretty boys that tween girls couldn't get enough of.  In any case, his influence with anyone beyond, say, junior high school girls, is quite minimal.  Then again, I'm saying this from a college student perspective, where Justin Bieber is completely irrelevant.

Justin Bieber isn't actually from Disney.  Pop music from Disney itself is on the decline.  Miley Cyrus and Jonas Brothers (seems like they've largely disappeared from the music scene like their Hanson brothers ancestors) are being cast aside in favor of non-Disney Justin Bieber.  However, his target audience is exactly the same and so that tween pop style music Disney started isn't going away anytime soon.  Aside from that, you are definitely right about the various directions of music.  Personally, I think the first two trends you mention ("trancey euro style", "trashy electropop/rap) will define the early 2010s, but won't have much a place in the mid-10s.  We'll see how things turn out though.  Interesting times my friend!


The difference is the Jonas Brothers had little success on top 40 radio (they were big hits on Radio Disney and the Disney Channel) as opposed to Bieber who is played once per hour on most top 40 stations.  Bieber didn't invent the Disney-pop sound, but he brought that sound to mainstream top 40.  Other artists, such as Katy Perry who was decent and more mature when she came on the scene in 2008, have resorted to tween pop because that seems to be the trend right now.  I would almost say the "trashy electropop/rap", most notably defined by Ke$ha and Lady Gaga, is already being pushed aside, or at least losing influence.  I can only hope this trend is as short lived as the boy bands of the 1998-2000 era was.

End of the rap era?

...can I just say please!

End of the rap era?

...can I just say please!


yes you can.

The second half of 2008 00's bling-rap went away. Thats when Lady GaGa came onto the scene in the second half of 2008 I think.

I'd like to go back to the early 80's when rap was fun and just about having a good time partying. That was my era.

I'd like to go back to the early 80's when rap was fun and just about having a good time partying. That was my era.


Yep.  I loved those guys rapping about big screen TV's, blunts, 40's and biches.  8)

Yep.  I loved those guys rapping about big screen TV's, blunts, 40's and biches.   8)


Not that era,1980-1985,you remember Secret Weapon's Must Be The Music? ???

Not that era,1980-1985,you remember Secret Weapon's Must Be The Music? ???


That was good stuff too...  :)

Then you also have The 80's rap group Funky Four + 1 "That's The Joint" (1981)

http://www.last.fm/music/Funky+Four+Plus+One/+videos/+1-RPzTIwLXsfQ

This here was real party music,guys back in those days just wanted to party and have fun,no talking about pimps and hoes and F'in and stuff,this was our rap music.

Then you also have The 80's rap group Funky Four + 1 "That's The Joint" (1981)

http://www.last.fm/music/Funky+Four+Plus+One/+videos/+1-RPzTIwLXsfQ

This here was real party music,guys back in those days just wanted to party and have fun,no talking about pimps and hoes and F'in and stuff,this was our rap music.


I always wondered why they were not called The Funky Five.

Don;t forget the Sugarhill Gang too.  Rappers Delight was rap at its most classic.  :)

I always wondered why they were not called The Funky Five.

Don;t forget the Sugarhill Gang too.  Rappers Delight was rap at its most classic.   :)


The Sugarhill gang was popular around 1980 and 1981,remember the song 8th Wonder? ??? http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoaft_BD.html

The Sugarhill gang was popular around 1980 and 1981,remember the song 8th Wonder? ??? http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoaft_BD.html


Apache is another good song by them.

http://www.last.fm/music/Sugarhill+Gang/_/Apache

good song from 1981.

http://www.last.fm/music/Sugarhill+Gang/_/Apache

good song from 1981.


Blondie did a rap in 1981's Rapture too.  :)

or how about rap songs telling you not to do drugs like Grandmaster Flash White Lines (Don't Do It) 1983.

http://www.last.fm/music/Grandmaster+Flash/_/White+Lines+(Don't+Do+It)

It became dominant sometime in the '01-02 timeframe, peaked in '05-'07 and started to really lose that dominance in '09.  Unlike most people who grew up with hip-hop in the '90s, I personally didn't mind the crunk/glam/ringtone rap of the '00s.   I also liked the more upbeat direction it appeared to be headed in '08 and '09.  Then Justin Bieber came on the scene and changed everything.

In my area, you don't hear much rap on the radio anymore (our hip-hop/r&b station just changed to a top 40).  About the only place they are still playing it is in nightclubs.  On the radio, its all garbage like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Taylor Swift, Enrique Iglesias, etc.  Many songs still have a rap verse thrown in but it has little resemblance to '90s or even '00s rap.  I personally would take "Crank Dat Soulja Boy" any day over Bieber's high pitched voice singing "U Smile, I Smile."
I could tolerate rap until like late 2005 when like "Laffy Taffy" and "Grillz" came out. I haven't cared for it rap in the past 5 1/2 years.

I could tolerate rap until like late 2005 when like "Laffy Taffy" and "Grillz" came out. I haven't cared for it rap in the past 5 1/2 years.


I couldn't stand rap already in 2000.  ::)

I prefer 80's rap old school style.

Gangsta rap has been hit especially hard recently. I think the newer rappers like Kid Cudi and B.o.B are making it look really dated and stupid.

Gangsta rap has been hit especially hard recently. I think the newer rappers like Kid Cudi and B.o.B are making it look really dated and stupid.


I think the gangsta style took it's first hit in 2007 when Soulja Boy and similar rappers appeared but now(in 2010) it is like nonexistent in pop culture.

I prefer 80's rap old school style.


Anything is better than 10's music, even 90's music is better than 00's and early 10's music!  :o

First half 2000s rap was pretty good to me, second half was mostly trash. I listen to a mix of rock, r&b/rap and pop mostly.

I remember and like all these songs, they take me back to high school. This is all good stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO2wA0Te0wM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ9_TKayu9s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjIvu7e6Wq8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVucWRs-eWA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYHDfJDPDc&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyWDhB_QeI&ob=av3e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntf3d4CORi4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJcT4PP80I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwA742VJ-7c


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4uRZ1UYKio

yeah even In da Club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm8PH4xAss&ob=av3e

For r&b this is near the top for the '00s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju8Hr50Ckwk&ob=av3n

Anything is better than 10's music, even 90's music is better than 00's and early 10's music!  :o


I enjoy hearing the sounds of Sugarhill Gang,Kurtis Blow,Grandmaster Flash and General Caine.

Anything is better than 10's music, even 90's music is better than 00's and early 10's music!  :o
Yeah but its only been 1 year in 10's music so far. I didn't have a problem with 2001-mid 2005 music. Even mid 2005-mid 2007 music is tolerable minus the ringtone rap crap that was hot in late 2005/early 2006 and the 2007 ringtone rap. Any music past the summer of 2007 I probably won't like it.

I think 2010 has been an improvement over 00s music. The electro and dance stuff is a refreshing change.

So what I think will happen is after 2011 or 2012, rap will move back underground. You'll still have the occasional rap hit here and there, but it will not be a huge force like it was in the 90s and 00s. Sometime in the late 2010s-early 2020s the black community will probably come up with a new genre to replace it.

As I mentioned before the gangsta era of rap is played out and dated. Don't expect that to return any time soon. 10s rap will be a rejection of the gangsta era.

I think 2010 has been an improvement over 00s music. The electro and dance stuff is a refreshing change.

So what I think will happen is after 2011 or 2012, rap will move back underground. You'll still have the occasional rap hit here and there, but it will not be a huge force like it was in the 90s and 00s. Sometime in the late 2010s-early 2020s the black community will probably come up with a new genre to replace it.

As I mentioned before the gangsta era of rap is played out and dated. Don't expect that to return any time soon. 10s rap will be a rejection of the gangsta era.




I actually agree with you, music has gotten somewhat better, but there are still some pretty bad songs on the radio currently.
In the future, the 80's, 90's, 00's, and 10's will be known as the era of rap! :)

As I mentioned before the gangsta era of rap is played out and dated. Don't expect that to return any time soon. 10s rap will be a rejection of the gangsta era.

So I guess the only way to hear the Gangsta Rap is online radio.

I actually agree with you, music has gotten somewhat better, but there are still some pretty bad songs on the radio currently.
In the future, the 80's, 90's, 00's, and 10's will be known as the era of rap! :)
Say What? Rap didn't become popular till like the late 80's. In the 90's rap didn't dominate. I would agree 2003-mid 2008 might be remembered as say an era when rap was dominant. In 2010 its not dominant anymore.

I think 2010 has been an improvement over 00s music. The electro and dance stuff is a refreshing change.

So what I think will happen is after 2011 or 2012, rap will move back underground. You'll still have the occasional rap hit here and there, but it will not be a huge force like it was in the 90s and 00s. Sometime in the late 2010s-early 2020s the black community will probably come up with a new genre to replace it.

As I mentioned before the gangsta era of rap is played out and dated. Don't expect that to return any time soon. 10s rap will be a rejection of the gangsta era.

Gangsta Rap? When I think of Gangsta Rap I think of Death Row(1992-1996 style) with Snoop Dogg, Tupac, and Dr. Dre. I think of East Coast Gangsta Rap like DMX back in the late 90's. Gangsta Rap hasn't been alive and well for over a decade.

Gangsta Rap hasn't been alive and well for over a decade.


Yeah once those guys stopped shooting each other the genre was pretty much dead.  Heck, even Snoop stopped smoking chronic.  :-\\

Gangsta Rap? When I think of Gangsta Rap I think of Death Row(1992-1996 style) with Snoop Dogg, Tupac, and Dr. Dre. I think of East Coast Gangsta Rap like DMX back in the late 90's. Gangsta Rap hasn't been alive and well for over a decade.


Yeah but its influence lingered on well into the 00s.

Say What? Rap didn't become popular till like the late 80's. In the 90's rap didn't dominate. I would agree 2003-mid 2008 might be remembered as say an era when rap was dominant. In 2010 its not dominant anymore.


It's more of what they call it "dance" music.

It's more of what they call it "dance" music.


Most of the music videos went from bling bling and girls shakin that pa tang ga tang to having strobe lights and lady gaga rejects.

Yeah this is definitely not the rap era anymore. It's like the glam dance era, very gay oriented music on the charts right now.

Most of the music videos went from bling bling and girls shakin that pa tang ga tang to having strobe lights and lady gaga rejects.


and back then you didn't have that sort of stuff,rap was all about parties,having fun and enjoying yourself,It was more of a PG kind of rap.

Yeah this is definitely not the rap era anymore. It's like the glam dance era, very gay oriented music on the charts right now.


I wouldn't agree about today's music being gay oriented.  Lady Gaga and Ke$ha are the only real gay-centric popular artists right now and they are not what they were six months ago.  BPM on satellite radio is the "gay" station and today's CHR has a lot more in common with Radio Disney than it does BPM.

I wouldn't agree about today's music being gay oriented.  Lady Gaga and Ke$ha are the only real gay-centric popular artists right now and they are not what they were six months ago.  BPM on satellite radio is the "gay" station and today's CHR has a lot more in common with Radio Disney than it does BPM.


I'd say Katy Perry and Rihanna are too, also even stuff like Taio Cruz probably appeals to gays.

I wouldn't agree about today's music being gay oriented.  Lady Gaga and Ke$ha are the only real gay-centric popular artists right now and they are not what they were six months ago.  BPM on satellite radio is the "gay" station and today's CHR has a lot more in common with Radio Disney than it does BPM.


Ke$ha is gay centric? ???

Ke$ha is gay centric? ???


She's gay? ???

She's gay? ???


I don't think so.  Maybe she's a lesbian though. 

I don't think so.  Maybe she's a lesbian though. 


Could be a heterosexual lesbian?
???

Well here in Picksburgh we have our own new-generation rapper, Whiz Kalifa.

http://rapfix.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/wiz-mugshot_575.jpg

In true rap tradition, Whiz got arrested the other day due to a massive amount of purple smoke emanating from his tour bus. 

http://rapfix.mtv.com/2010/11/09/wiz-khalifa-arrest-weed-snoop-dogg-fan-react/

Could be a heterosexual lesbian?
???


maybe she likes butch bull dykes.

Well here in Picksburgh we have our own new-generation rapper, Whiz Kalifa.

http://rapfix.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/wiz-mugshot_575.jpg

In true rap tradition, Whiz got arrested the other day due to a massive amount of purple smoke emanating from his tour bus. 

http://rapfix.mtv.com/2010/11/09/wiz-khalifa-arrest-weed-snoop-dogg-fan-react/


purple smoke?

purple smoke?


Purple haze...  Reefer smoke.  :o

Purple haze...  Reefer smoke.  :o


Oh, is that what it reefers to?
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/01/bandit.gif

Back in the 80's rap era,you didn't have people smoking reefers,you sung about "not doing drugs" and that was their point.

Back in the 80's rap era,you didn't have people smoking reefers,you sung about "not doing drugs" and that was their point.



Yep those guys were cool.  They rapped about good times and you could be sober at the same time.  :)

Yep those guys were cool.  They rapped about good times and you could be sober at the same time.   :)



and there were no explicit lyrics with the f word or n word.

I'd say Katy Perry and Rihanna are too, also even stuff like Taio Cruz probably appeals to gays.


I forgot about Rihanna's gay appeal.  She had a song this summer called "Te Amo" that didn't get much airplay but it was about a lesbian affair.

I forgot about Rihanna's gay appeal.  She had a song this summer called "Te Amo" that didn't get much airplay but it was about a lesbian affair.



Thank God,she's not lesbian.

Rap is definitely NOT the dominate genre of music anymore, the dominate style is clear as being the electro/techno party pop stuff, the mainstream scene here in the US right now is dominated by Katy Perry, Ke$ha, Lady GaGa, Rihanna, Taio Cruz, Mike Posner, Far East Movement all that stuff really sounds the same. Snap music just doomed the hip-hop genre, people that didn't mind rap when it was most popular in the early to mid '00s got driven away by the gimmicky one hit wonders of 2005-2007. Everybody said screw this junk and went all techno.

I'll be fine as long as there's no John Denver revival!
8-P

Snap music just doomed the hip-hop genre, people that didn't mind rap when it was most popular in the early to mid '00s got driven away by the gimmicky one hit wonders of 2005-2007. Everybody said screw this junk and went all techno.



I still think "Crank Dat"- Souja Boy was the final nail in rap's coffin as far as its popularity in the mainstream. That song was the "Cherry Pie" of rap.

I still think "Crank Dat"- Souja Boy was the final nail in rap's coffin as far as its popularity in the mainstream. That song was the "Cherry Pie" of rap.


Soulja Boy is probably the worst rapper of all time.

I'll be fine as long as there's no John Denver revival!
8-P


John Denver and rap do not mix.

I still think "Crank Dat"- Souja Boy was the final nail in rap's coffin as far as its popularity in the mainstream. That song was the "Cherry Pie" of rap.


I disagree.  Rap remained popular through 2008 and 2009. If anything, that "Ice Cream Paint Job" song could be considered the final nail in the coffin. That was the last of the ringtone rap songs to have major influence.

I disagree.  Rap remained popular through 2008 and 2009. If anything, that "Ice Cream Paint Job" song could be considered the final nail in the coffin. That was the last of the ringtone rap songs to have major influence.


And that was a much smaller hit than It's Goin Down, Party Like A Rockstar, This is Why I'm Hot, or Crank That. I don't know why that stuff kept hitting number 1 in 2006-2007... One notable rapper I'd classify in the ringtone category that's still left would be that Waka Flocka Flame guy though he like Dorrough or whatever is only moderately popular mostly only played on urban radio these days while the above rappers were crossing over to multiple formats.

True, 2008 was still pretty rap-heavy, but slightly less than 2003-2007. 2009 is when I first noticed a decline though...that's when the electropop sound started catching on and overall expoure of rap lessened. Its presence was dramatically reduced in 2010, especially with eurodance-pop becoming big alongside electro. Lil Wayne still gets a fair amount of airplay and exposure, but he's the only 00s-style rapper that still does. And Eminem too, I guess. Most of the new rap coming out is of the Kid Cudi, B.o.B variety.

True, 2008 was still pretty rap-heavy, but slightly less than 2003-2007. 2009 is when I first noticed a decline though...that's when the electropop sound started catching on and overall expoure of rap lessened. Its presence was dramatically reduced in 2010, especially with eurodance-pop becoming big alongside electro. Lil Wayne still gets a fair amount of airplay and exposure, but he's the only 00s-style rapper that still does. And Eminem too, I guess. Most of the new rap coming out is of the Kid Cudi, B.o.B variety.


I'd say 2008 is the last year rap was the clear top genre, when Wayne and T.I. dominated the year.

True, 2008 was still pretty rap-heavy, but slightly less than 2003-2007. 2009 is when I first noticed a decline though...that's when the electropop sound started catching on and overall expoure of rap lessened. Its presence was dramatically reduced in 2010, especially with eurodance-pop becoming big alongside electro. Lil Wayne still gets a fair amount of airplay and exposure, but he's the only 00s-style rapper that still does. And Eminem too, I guess. Most of the new rap coming out is of the Kid Cudi, B.o.B variety.


What about Nicki Minaj?  She is a very '00s style rapper and she is bigger than Lil' Wayne and Eminem right now, and she is also new on the scene while Lil' Wayne and Eminem are established '00s artists.

I dunno...her highest Billboard 200 charting so far is #14.

Eh it's more that's she's had a lot of features and buzz. But yeah her solo chart success hasn't really been all that impressive yet (her biggest solo is Your Love by far and that was a decent sizable hit though not a blockbuster), but she's one of the most talked about rappers of the year. The biggest song she was in has to be "Bedrock" which was huge. I'm not a big Lil Wayne fan but Bedrock was good. Probably because she's new and female and there haven't been too many female rappers lately. I'd say I like Nicki she's alright, she's a bit overrated but not terrible, she has some good lines (unlike ringtone rappers), Your Love was good and her verse saves Bottoms Up.

I disagree.  Rap remained popular through 2008 and 2009. If anything, that "Ice Cream Paint Job" song could be considered the final nail in the coffin. That was the last of the ringtone rap songs to have major influence.


And I think "funky rap" might have died out in the early-mid 1980's.

Eh it's more that's she's had a lot of features and buzz. But yeah her solo chart success hasn't really been all that impressive yet (her biggest solo is Your Love by far and that was a decent sizable hit though not a blockbuster), but she's one of the most talked about rappers of the year. The biggest song she was in has to be "Bedrock" which was huge. I'm not a big Lil Wayne fan but Bedrock was good. Probably because she's new and female and there haven't been too many female rappers lately. I'd say I like Nicki she's alright, she's a bit overrated but not terrible, she has some good lines (unlike ringtone rappers), Your Love was good and her verse saves Bottoms Up.


I hate that song, 'Bedrock'. And I have nothing against Lil' Wayne and Nicki Minaj.

That song was everywhere in 2009 and whenever it came on I had to turn off the radio.

I hate that song, 'Bedrock'. And I have nothing against Lil' Wayne and Nicki Minaj.

That song was everywhere in 2009 and whenever it came on I had to turn off the radio.


Whaddya mean?  I love that song, 'Bedrock'. And I wasn't even that into Jim Thirlwell.

That song was nowhere in 1990 and whenever it came on I had to turn up the radio.

(Aaw, crap.  I'm having a sudden attack of the olds again today.  But the fan-made video warps an already twisted song even further off the deep end.)

When was the beginning of the rap era? ???

When was the beginning of the rap era? ???


I'd say about the late 80's.

Rap didn't become 'popular' until about 1988 I'd say. Sure, you'd hear it here and there in the early and mid 80's, but I'd say when Mtv had Yo Mtv raps; that was when rap became legit!  ;D 8)

I'd say about the late 80's.

Rap didn't become 'popular' until about 1988 I'd say. Sure, you'd hear it here and there in the early and mid 80's, but I'd say when Mtv had Yo Mtv raps; that was when rap became legit!  ;D 8)




I remember rap artists such as The Sugarhill Gang and Grandmaster Flash breaking big in metropolitan radio markets in my childhood.  Rap was a discrete pop music genre by 1981, though maybe not in the cornfields of Kansas.  MTV played videos by old-school rappers such as Run-DMC and Kurtis Blow starting in 1983, if memory serves.  The network was slow to realize the full commercial potential of rap/hip-hop, so "Yo MTV Raps" didn't premiere until 1988.  In its early days, MTV only played a few African-American artists -- Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie -- because they assumed cable TV would remain a white suburban service and white kids wouldn't be interested in music by Black kids.  It wasn't true in the '80s.  It wasn't true in the '50s either!  My parents used to tune into "Negro" radio stations to hear Ruth Brown and Little Richard.  I still don't understand how the music industry could have been so shortsighted when they were gearing up MTV in 1980-1981. 

In its White bias, MTV did make stars out of New Wave artists, such as A Flock Of Seagulls, Duran Duran, The Fixx, and Depeche Mode.  I preferred New Wave to Rap, but Rap proved to be much more enduring among the MTV/commercial radio audience.  New Wave was passe by 1987.  Depeche Mode was an exception.  They saw their greatest worldwide success after 1987 (and they would never consider themselves "New Wave.")

I remember rap artists such as The Sugarhill Gang and Grandmaster Flash breaking big in metropolitan radio markets in my childhood.  Rap was a discrete pop music genre by 1981, though maybe not in the cornfields of Kansas.  MTV played videos by old-school rappers such as Run-DMC and Kurtis Blow starting in 1983, if memory serves.  The network was slow to realize the full commercial potential of rap/hip-hop, so "Yo MTV Raps" didn't premiere until 1988.  In its early days, MTV only played a few African-American artists -- Diana Ross, Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie -- because they assumed cable TV would remain a white suburban service and white kids wouldn't be interested in music by Black kids.  It wasn't true in the '80s.  It wasn't true in the '50s either!  My parents used to tune into "Negro" radio stations to hear Ruth Brown and Little Richard.  I still don't understand how the music industry could have been so shortsighted when they were gearing up MTV in 1980-1981. 

In its White bias, MTV did make stars out of New Wave artists, such as A Flock Of Seagulls, Duran Duran, The Fixx, and Depeche Mode.  I preferred New Wave to Rap, but Rap proved to be much more enduring among the MTV/commercial radio audience.  New Wave was passe by 1987.  Depeche Mode was an exception.  They saw their greatest worldwide success after 1987 (and they would never consider themselves "New Wave.")



Wow, the 80s sure was the beggining of the rap era. Yo yo!  8)

I like 80s rap. It was fun, (relatively) clean, and was ANTI-drug and violence. Then gangsta rap came along and....yeah.

I'd say about the late 80's.

Rap didn't become 'popular' until about 1988 I'd say. Sure, you'd hear it here and there in the early and mid 80's, but I'd say when Mtv had Yo Mtv raps; that was when rap became legit!  ;D 8)




No,It was way before your era,I think it was 1974,The funk group Fatback had a hit single "King Tim III" and that was considered rap in a way.

Don't forget the funky rap group in 1981 had a hit "That's The Joint".

I like 80s rap. It was fun, (relatively) clean, and was ANTI-drug and violence. Then gangsta rap came along and....yeah.
I look at rap made from 1986-1993 as "middle class sounding" where everyone can listen to it now like Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince, Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Run DMC,  LL Cool J, Rakim, Naughty by Nature, Salt "N" Pepa, PM Dawn and maybe even stuff like Das EFX, Brand Nubian, or Nice and Smooth. Stuff like the "Beastie Boys" or "Public Enemy" could be lumped in with this group to but they were edgier in different ways. By 1994 it was gangsta rap that was hot with Tupac and Biggie which I could take or leave that lasted till Tupac got killed in September of 1996 I think. The 1997-1998 rap music was pretty good with stuff like "The Lox", Foxy Brown & Jay-Z, Busta Ryhmes, DMX, and Big Pun. Of course the 1997-1998 period is known in some Hip-Hop's core observers eyes as the "shiny suit era of hip-hop" with Puff Daddy and Mase and their sampled-filled 80's songs especially with Puffy back then.

I think though 1992/1993 was a combo I think of the old school(middle class sounding rap) that I described above and the East/West Coast Gangsta Rap that blew up in 1994 because of stuff like Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre(i.e. Dre's Chronic album) was big in 1993 and I think Snoop Dogg's album "Doggystyle" that was released in 1992 I think that was big. Also Ice-T was pretty big in 1992 with the infamous track "Cop Killer" that drew outrage from Washington DC politicians at the time I think. I mean in 1994 a track like "Pop Goes The Weasel(The Weasel goes Pop)" by 3rd bass wouldn't have been big.

Interestingly enough the rap group "NWA" was big in 1989 and were gangsta rap but gangsta rap really wasn't popular  till '92.

Spoony G did "Spoonin' Rap" in 1979 and "Monster Jam" in 1980 too.

Spoony G did "Spoonin' Rap" in 1979 and "Monster Jam" in 1980 too.


And don't forget Prince Charles And The City Band (Cash,Cash Money) in 1981.

Spoony G did "Spoonin' Rap" in 1979 and "Monster Jam" in 1980 too.


Good stuff. ;)

I look at rap made from 1986-1993 as "middle class sounding" where everyone can listen to it now like Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince, Queen Latifah, MC Lyte, Run DMC,  LL Cool J, Rakim, Naughty by Nature, Salt "N" Pepa, PM Dawn and maybe even stuff like Das EFX, Brand Nubian, or Nice and Smooth. Stuff like the "Beastie Boys" or "Public Enemy" could be lumped in with this group to but they were edgier in different ways. By 1994 it was gangsta rap that was hot with Tupac and Biggie which I could take or leave that lasted till Tupac got killed in September of 1996 I think. The 1997-1998 rap music was pretty good with stuff like "The Lox", Foxy Brown & Jay-Z, Busta Ryhmes, DMX, and Big Pun. Of course the 1997-1998 period is known in some Hip-Hop's core observers eyes as the "shiny suit era of hip-hop" with Puff Daddy and Mase and their sampled-filled 80's songs especially with Puffy back then.

I think though 1992/1993 was a combo I think of the old school(middle class sounding rap) that I described above and the East/West Coast Gangsta Rap that blew up in 1994 because of stuff like Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre(i.e. Dre's Chronic album) was big in 1993 and I think Snoop Dogg's album "Doggystyle" that was released in 1992 I think that was big. Also Ice-T was pretty big in 1992 with the infamous track "Cop Killer" that drew outrage from Washington DC politicians at the time I think. I mean in 1994 a track like "Pop Goes The Weasel(The Weasel goes Pop)" by 3rd bass wouldn't have been big.

Interestingly enough the rap group "NWA" was big in 1989 and were gangsta rap but gangsta rap really wasn't popular  till '92.





Yerah 1979-1991 was old school rap era, 1992-1997 was the gangsta rap era, then 1998-2008 was glam rap (which shares aspects with gangsta rap) era and 2008+ is like the Indie-rap era.

And don't forget Prince Charles And The City Band (Cash,Cash Money) in 1981.



Good stuff. ;)


Yeah those were the days.  No "shawties" or bangin' back in those days.  :)

Yerah 1979-1991 was old school rap era, 1992-1997 was the gangsta rap era, then 1998-2008 was glam rap (which shares aspects with gangsta rap) era and 2008+ is like the Indie-rap era.
I think it was 1992-1996 was the gangsta rap era. and 1997-2008 maybe the glam rap era although some of the 1997-2002 rap was Pop/R&b influenced like the rappers "Eve" or "Loon" or songs like "What's Luv", All I Have(LL Cool J w/Jennifer Lopez), Luv U Better(LL Cool J), I'm Real(Ja Rule featuring Jennifer Lopez)  and Ja Rule and Ashanti collaborations. Other songs from that period were pure glam rap like "Big Pimpin"(Jay-Z)  or stuff like Nelly's early works. 2003-mid 2008 was club influenced glam rap like wether it be 50 Cent, crunk,  ringtone or like Lil Wayne. Kanye West was alot less glam rap than the other rappers in that period(2003-mid 2008.)

And don't forget Prince Charles And The City Band (Cash,Cash Money) in 1981.


If you're gonna talk about that, I gotta tell you, "It's good to be the king!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOFHk9KF7pk

Yeah those were the days.  No "shawties" or bangin' back in those days.  :)


That was rap before rap became crap.

If you're gonna talk about that, I gotta tell you, "It's good to be the king!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOFHk9KF7pk


Mel Brooks had some good singing chops.

The new Soulja Boy song sounds straight out of 2007.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbGJCT3R154

It will be interesting to see if this makes it onto Top 40 radio.  It would have been a #1 hit three years ago.

Highest charting was #57 on the Hip hop/R&B chart.

What is interesting is his change in clothes since 2007 though. lol

Wow that song is really dumb but it's Soulja Boy so that's to be expected. If you want an example of 2007 style music that's still semi popular that Waka Floka Flame guy would be my best example with "No Hands". Soulja Boy has waned in popularity even on urban radio since 2009 even.

The new Soulja Boy song sounds straight out of 2007.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbGJCT3R154

It will be interesting to see if this makes it onto Top 40 radio.  It would have been a #1 hit three years ago.


Perfect example of a 00's holdover in the 10's, probably doesn't mean much to the current mainstream music culture.

The new Soulja Boy song sounds straight out of 2007.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbGJCT3R154

It will be interesting to see if this makes it onto Top 40 radio.  It would have been a #1 hit three years ago.



If he could put a little funky beat into his music,It would sound a little better.

Perfect example of a 00's holdover in the 10's, probably doesn't mean much to the current mainstream music culture.


Never heard of this song or heard it on the radio till I saw it here. I know "Pretty Boy Swag" was a moderate hit on urban radio earlier this year though far from huge.

For better or for worse, the Rap music that was mainstream from about 2002-2007 has faded away. When I turn on to Top 40 radio, I don't hear 50 Cent or Lil Jon, but rather Lady Gaga and Rihanna. It's pretty obvious Electro-pop has taken over and will most likely define the mainstream music of the early 10's.

For better or for worse, the Rap music that was mainstream from about 2002-2007 has faded away. When I turn on to Top 40 radio, I don't hear 50 Cent or Lil Jon, but rather Lady Gaga and Rihanna. It's pretty obvious Electro-pop has taken over and will most likely define the mainstream music of the early 10's.


Amazing that euro-pop pioneers such as Akon, Rihanna, and the Black Eyed Peas got their start in hip-hop and r&b.  Akon today sounds nothing like he did in 2004 when he busted on the scene with "Locked Up."  Wacka Flocka Flame, Soulja Boy, and Nicki Minaj are pretty much that last major '00s style holdovers still on Top 40.  Anybody who follows radio should notice that the very popular "Rhythmic Top 40" format of the '00s playing hip-hop and pop crossovers is going the way of the dodo.  This makes me wonder whats going to become of urban radio stations in a couple years when hip-hop as we have known it is gone completely.

Amazing that euro-pop pioneers such as Akon, Rihanna, and the Black Eyed Peas got their start in hip-hop and r&b.  Akon today sounds nothing like he did in 2004 when he busted on the scene with "Locked Up."  Wacka Flocka Flame, Soulja Boy, and Nicki Minaj are pretty much that last major '00s style holdovers still on Top 40.  Anybody who follows radio should notice that the very popular "Rhythmic Top 40" format of the '00s playing hip-hop and pop crossovers is going the way of the dodo.  This makes me wonder whats going to become of urban radio stations in a couple years when hip-hop as we have known it is gone completely.


Agreed about Akon, he completely changed his sound in 2008.

Amazing that euro-pop pioneers such as Akon, Rihanna, and the Black Eyed Peas got their start in hip-hop and r&b.  Akon today sounds nothing like he did in 2004 when he busted on the scene with "Locked Up."  Wacka Flocka Flame, Soulja Boy, and Nicki Minaj are pretty much that last major '00s style holdovers still on Top 40.  Anybody who follows radio should notice that the very popular "Rhythmic Top 40" format of the '00s playing hip-hop and pop crossovers is going the way of the dodo.  This makes me wonder whats going to become of urban radio stations in a couple years when hip-hop as we have known it is gone completely.
Rihanna R&B? She had more of a dancehall-pop sound when she burst onto the scene in August of 2005 with her song "Pon De Replay". Yes she got play on a urban radio station by where I live(Power 105.1, a New York City Radio Station) with "Pon De Replay"

Yeah I know will urban stations that play hip-hop go the way of rock stations the way the number of rock stations has dwindled since the start of the 00's?

As for Akon I liked "Locked Up". That was a pretty tight track.

Lastly, Nicki Minaj has alot more in common with Foxy Brown and Lil Kim than Soulja Boy and Foxy and Lil Kim who were artist that in the late 90's/early 00's. Foxy was only really popular in 1997-1998 with that said. Nicki Minaj is from NYC(she grew up there) but she moved to Atlanta later in life I think.

Nicki has her style and personality I think, she's kinda like the GaGa of hip-hop. I wouldn't compare her to the likes of Waka Flocka and Soulja certainly.

While we're on the subject of 00s Rap, I found this amazing piece of satire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImK3gP2x0ig

The Boondocks is a show on Adult Swim that pokes fun at many of the elements of modern day "black culture."  This was a joke song that appeared a lot in Seasons 1 and 2 (2005-2007) that was meant to be a satire of mainstream Rap music in the mid-00s.  The thing is, this song was almost TOO accurate.  It wouldn't have sounded out of place at all on Hip-Hop radio back in 2006.  This was when you knew Rap had nowhere to go but down: when there is almost zero difference between satirical songs making fun of 00s Rap and 00s Rap itself.

Most people here probably don't know the show, but The Boondocks is a good candidate for a nice time capsule of the 00s as far as black culture goes.  Obama, Hurricane Katrina, Pimp My Ride, autotune, Usher, hell even Soul Plane, they all show up at some point and are promptly satired.  The only show that makes a better time capsule is South Park.

While we're on the subject of 00s Rap, I found this amazing piece of satire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImK3gP2x0ig

The Boondocks is a show on Adult Swim that pokes fun at many of the elements of modern day "black culture."  This was a joke song that appeared a lot in Seasons 1 and 2 (2005-2007) that was meant to be a satire of mainstream Rap music in the mid-00s.  The thing is, this song was almost TOO accurate.  It wouldn't have sounded out of place at all on Hip-Hop radio back in 2006.  This was when you knew Rap had nowhere to go but down: when there is almost zero difference between satirical songs making fun of 00s Rap and 00s Rap itself.

Most people here probably don't know the show, but The Boondocks is a good candidate for a nice time capsule of the 00s as far as black culture goes.  Obama, Hurricane Katrina, Pimp My Ride, autotune, Usher, hell even Soul Plane, they all show up at some point and are promptly satired.  The only show that makes a better time capsule is South Park.


I agree I mean I remember "Ms. New Booty" from 06 this is like the same thing almost rofl.

While we're on the subject of 00s Rap, I found this amazing piece of satire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImK3gP2x0ig

The Boondocks is a show on Adult Swim that pokes fun at many of the elements of modern day "black culture."  This was a joke song that appeared a lot in Seasons 1 and 2 (2005-2007) that was meant to be a satire of mainstream Rap music in the mid-00s.  The thing is, this song was almost TOO accurate.  It wouldn't have sounded out of place at all on Hip-Hop radio back in 2006.  This was when you knew Rap had nowhere to go but down: when there is almost zero difference between satirical songs making fun of 00s Rap and 00s Rap itself.

Most people here probably don't know the show, but The Boondocks is a good candidate for a nice time capsule of the 00s as far as black culture goes.  Obama, Hurricane Katrina, Pimp My Ride, autotune, Usher, hell even Soul Plane, they all show up at some point and are promptly satired.  The only show that makes a better time capsule is South Park.
Obama is not really 00's culture he's part of early 2010's culture in my opinion.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/12/10/2010-12-10_eminems_grammys_kanyes_acclaim_lil_wayne_on_obamas_ipod_is_hip_hop_victim_of_its.html

Obama is not really 00's culture he's part of early 2010's culture in my opinion.


Obama (and the recession he inherited) is a staple of late '00s culture.  Many rap songs about him were popular in the second half of 2008, most notably Young Jeezy - My President.

Rap/hip hop does seem to be waning in the mainstream. I blame oversaturation, and people getting tired of the played out "gangsta" image and the bling and "spinnaz". If 50 Cent were to come onto the scene today, he'd be nowhere near as big. I think more mature Kid Cudi-esqe alt-hop will become prominent in the 2010s, maybe as a reaction against 00s glam rap and gangsta rap.

Top 40 pop seems to be very gradually moving from the hip hop influences it had throughout the 90s and 00s back into a "whiter" sound. I think by 2013 the transition will be complete and there will be little to no hip hop influence in pop music.

Either way it will be interesting to see. I think 2010s music will be very different from 2000s music.


No, Shiv I was in High School in the mid 90's and I don't remember Hip-Hop being popular then as it was in the core 00's(2003-early 2006 and 2007-mid 2008.) Yes 1998 hip-hop was everywhere because of Puff Daddy's popularity.

No, Shiv I was in High School in the mid 90's and I don't remember Hip-Hop being popular then as it was in the core 00's(2003-early 2006 and 2007-mid 2008.) Yes 1998 hip-hop was everywhere because of Puff Daddy's popularity.


Agreed, however Puff Daddy popularity IMO was mainly due to Biggie's death and that remake of "Every Breathe You Take"

Agreed, however Puff Daddy popularity IMO was mainly due to Biggie's death and that remake of "Every Breathe You Take"


I thought that was a good remake.

Agreed, however Puff Daddy popularity IMO was mainly due to Biggie's death and that remake of "Every Breathe You Take"


For that matter, Biggie's fame was largely amplified by his own death too.

Most rap heard nowadays is fused with R&B/Dance.  And as always, it's still more popular in the US, than it is in Canada.  You guys have officially stolen Drake away from us lol

But you'll never get Kardinall Offishall.  Somehow his 2010 Akon duet 'Body Bounce' (which placed at #50 in the Top 50 songs in Canada of 2010) missed the US chart completely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKvC0cLkoKU

Can anyone tell me when rap used to be "fun music",partying and oogling at women? ???

Can anyone tell me when rap used to be "fun music",partying and oogling at women? ???


Well in '79 we had the Sugarhill Gang.

Can anyone tell me when rap used to be "fun music",partying and oogling at women? ???


before 1993

Well in '79 we had the Sugarhill Gang.


It's like you want to go back into a time machine,I dread today's rap,It's just awful noise. :P

Eminem is still super big.
Rap vocals with electronic beats is the way to success nowadays.