From now on, any venting about the Beckster, and stuff will be combined into one thread.

To prevent over crowding, and stuff.

Just to give everyone, a heads up, and all.

I don't listen to him anymore!

Unfortunately, Glenn Beck still has people who do.

::)

Beck's "Planet of the Apes" remark was certainly in bad taste, but what gets me is calling the union movement a special interest when it represents the interests of the vast majority of americans.

Beck's "Planet of the Apes" remark was certainly in bad taste, but what gets me is calling the union movement a special interest when it represents the interests of the vast majority of americans.
I think Glenn Beck meant and I could be mistaken is that the union is a hige special interest for the democratic party.

No the unions aren;t big in private business but in most state governments or government-related services they are I think(i.e. public sector) For example here in New Jersey where I live the public works unions with state government and teachers are a big interest. Also, the public works unions are pretty much tied to the Democratic Party in New Jersey.

but what gets me is calling the union movement a special interest when it represents the interests of the vast majority of americans.


Not really...  In theory, unions are supposed to serve the interests of the common worker, but what typically happens is that union management becomes yet another bureaucracy that siphons money from the people they supposedly represent for their own profit.

Also, unions make it far less enticing for companies to move to an area when they know they don't have to deal with the same obstacles in other areas.  They also encourage multinational corporations to outsource more.  Unions are also a large part of why GM is falling.

What typically works better for the interests of a working class is for the government to set specific labor laws that protect all workers across the board.  This way, workers are no longer dependent on unions to protect them.

Not really...  In theory, unions are supposed to serve the interests of the common worker, but what typically happens is that union management becomes yet another bureaucracy that siphons money from the people they supposedly represent for their own profit.

Also, unions make it far less enticing for companies to move to an area when they know they don't have to deal with the same obstacles in other areas.  They also encourage multinational corporations to outsource more.  Unions are also a large part of why GM is falling.

What typically works better for the interests of a working class is for the government to set specific labor laws that protect all workers across the board.  This way, workers are no longer dependent on unions to protect them.


While there is some truth to what you say, it is something of an exaggeration.  Mostly it depends on the union.  Mine (the AFT) was very representative.  As to outsourcing, sure, high wages encourage it, but should workers accept low wages to prevent it?  That has been tried, as in the New  England textile industry.

We have labor laws going back to the National Labor Relations act, followed by Taft-Hartly and Landrum-Griffin.  So workers can't rely on Gov't to protect them, especially when repubs are in power.

While there is some truth to what you say, it is something of an exaggeration.  Mostly it depends on the union.  Mine (the AFT) was very representative.  As to outsourcing, sure, high wages encourage it, but should workers accept low wages to prevent it?  That has been tried, as in the New  England textile industry.

We have labor laws going back to the National Labor Relations act, followed by Taft-Hartly and Landrum-Griffin.   So workers can't rely on Gov't to protect them, especially when repubs are in power.


Alan Greenspan always said we need worker insecurity to keep corporate profits high.  Of course, General Motors did not go bankrupt when 1/3 of the workforce -- including all auto workers -- was unionized.  The heydey for GM was under Eisenhower, you know, Ike the commie!  Corporate taxes were far higher and the top marginal income tax rate was over 90%.  The CEO of GM would have been delighted to pay 28%, but in 1955, he wasn't exactly missing any meals!

Now union workers are 7% of the private sector -- even lower than the national unemployment rate, which stands officially at 9.5%.  Hmmmm...

Anyway, there is no point in starting a silly Glenn Beck thread.  His show is silly from start to finish every night.
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Alan Greenspan always said we need worker insecurity to keep corporate profits high.  Of course, General Motors did not go bankrupt when 1/3 of the workforce -- including all auto workers -- was unionized.  The heydey for GM was under Eisenhower, you know, Ike the commie!  Corporate taxes were far higher and the top marginal income tax rate was over 90%.  The CEO of GM would have been delighted to pay 28%, but in 1955, he wasn't exactly missing any meals!

Now union workers are 7% of the private sector -- even lower than the national unemployment rate, which stands officially at 9.5%.  Hmmmm...

Anyway, there is no point in starting a silly Glenn Beck thread.  His show is silly from start to finish every night.
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Good points.  The GB thread is to consolidate all the threads that Penny Wise has be regaling us with of the past months.

Beck's ALWAYS says silly sheesh! :D

I present to everyone......

When Glenn Beck Met Bill O'Reilly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/12/glenn-beck-gay-marriage-n_n_679691.html

It's time to sing along with Jamie....

Can you feel the love tonight?

;D

It's coming, Glenn Beck's big moment!  August 28!

Wooooot.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100817/cm_yblog_upshot/glenn-becks-8-28-rally-scheduled-on-anniversary-of-i-have-a-dream-speech-to-draw-counterprotests

Beck's "Planet of the Apes" remark was certainly in bad taste, but what gets me is calling the union movement a special interest when it represents the interests of the vast majority of americans.



Not really...  In theory, unions are supposed to serve the interests of the common worker, but what typically happens is that union management becomes yet another bureaucracy that siphons money from the people they supposedly represent for their own profit.

Also, unions make it far less enticing for companies to move to an area when they know they don't have to deal with the same obstacles in other areas.  They also encourage multinational corporations to outsource more.  Unions are also a large part of why GM is falling.

What typically works better for the interests of a working class is for the government to set specific labor laws that protect all workers across the board.  This way, workers are no longer dependent on unions to protect them.



While there is some truth to what you say, it is something of an exaggeration.  Mostly it depends on the union.  Mine (the AFT) was very representative.  As to outsourcing, sure, high wages encourage it, but should workers accept low wages to prevent it?  That has been tried, as in the New  England textile industry.

We have labor laws going back to the National Labor Relations act, followed by Taft-Hartly and Landrum-Griffin.   So workers can't rely on Gov't to protect them, especially when repubs are in power.


I'm with Mac on this one. I was a Teamster for 5 years and yeah, I didn't feel like they were exactly representing us. Every time YRC asked for any kind of concession that had to be put to a vote, the union was always enthusiastically behind it. And as far as unions representing "the interests of the vast majority of the American people?" Please. The only people whose interests the Teamsters represented were those who had been in the union for 20 years or more. The rest of us could just F.O.A.D. for all they cared, and they let us know it.

It's possible that I might get called back off layoff in the next few years, but there's no way I'm going back there.

I won't say I'll never work for a union again, but I'm highly skeptical and, to be honest, rather jaded by the whole experience.

Is it just me, but did Jiminy Glick disappear at the same time Glen Beck got big?

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Tomorrow, Glenn Beck has something important to say, about restoring hope, or something like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMGpBCllHWs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvgxm2AE7w&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyelsFssm8Y&feature=related

I can hardly wait, can you?

::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m05VSyHoQ4


Don't forget to sign the petition.


Cat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m05VSyHoQ4


Don't forget to sign the petition.


Cat


This makes me sick.  I've always thought Glenn Beck was a lunatic, but this is just above and beyond.

This is the feel good song of the summer!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-dmNx42f54

Even the Tea Party has their own song.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhElvDArWw4&feature=related

Even the Tea Party has their own song.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhElvDArWw4&feature=related



I thought THIS is their song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHKzn8aHyXg



Cat

I thought THIS is their song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHKzn8aHyXg



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Plus one for you!

Plus one for you!



Right back at ya.



Cat

Right back at ya.



Cat


Thanks!

Who's going to 8/28?  Can you get a GB autograph for me?
???

GB and MLK both talk about "freedom."  I don't think they reckon "freedom" in the same way.  For GB, "freedom" means "freedom" for giant multinational corporations to bugger us until we can't stand up!
:-X

An interesting chart that compares Beck and MLK. 

http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/vfs/2010/08/Beck-MLK_flow-chart.jpg

C-SPAN covered the Beckocalypse today.  I saw as much as I could stomach.  It was a miasma of shallow religiosity and duck-billed platitudes about American individualism.  Ho hum.
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Of course, Dr. Alveda King, MLK's homophobic niece was flapping her gums over there too.  

She once called gay marriage "genocide."  You can kill the non-existent.  Whaaa?
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This time the apple didn't just fall far from the tree, it fell in another orchard altogether!

What does the "C" in C-SPAN stand for again?  Conservative? Corporate?  Crazy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y67TMzpc7NM

Any faith I had in the American public is being sorely tried.  Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin....hundreds of thousands@  I am staying close to the border and keeping my passport current.  This is getting ugly.

Any faith I had in the American public is being sorely tried.  Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin....hundreds of thousands@  I am staying close to the border and keeping my passport current.  This is getting ugly.


This is the way a republic dies.

Not with a bang,
but with an embarrassing flatulent peal!

(my apologies to T.S.)
:-[

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/8/28/0a8a06d5-9f41-4991-9cae-eecf98f27ded.jpg

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/3426/mlk3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2YTaz.jpg

PROTIP: Streaming an entire event to the Intertubes with letterboxing for 4:3 screens is an open invitation to Screengrabbery and Photoshoppery.

And I'll just leave this here.  And pay no attention to 12:44:35 PM.

^Nice signs.  I never did go in for any of that mace rixing!  What's that say? Pass me another beer!
:D

Seriously, the guy is a total TOOL!  I mean, I know plenty of total tools, but they don't get an audience of 14 million.

He's like a cross between Joe McCarthy and Liberace.  Where does this guy get off!  It's a John Waters movie if you throw Sarah Palin in there...

He cares! He's emotional! He cries! He's sensitive!  

That's something Rush Limbaugh never figured out.  Beck can do it.  He's a total psychopath.  In other words, I have seen total psychopaths breakdown for selfish reasons and cry on cue.  They look a lot like Glenn Beck when they do it!  Anyway, the
Mr. Waterworks routine helps rein in the ladies.  Guys liked Rush.  Glenn is turning out to be a grandparents and moms phenomenon.  
:o

We watched the Glenn Beck show yesterday for as long as we could stomach it (about 10 minutes if that long). He had a bunch of teenagers in his audience and was "teaching" them about the Constitution & Declaration of Independence. It really made me sick because he was feeding them LIES about the mortar that holds our country together. So, you have to get the young, feed them a bunch of b.s. and then we have the next generation of ignorant people to follow these @$$holes.



Cat

For reason the rally reminds me of this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkRJQOITi-4

;D

Seen clips of Palin and Beck's speech....

My verdict?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

Seen clips of Palin and Beck's speech....

My verdict?

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......





You betcha.  ;) ;) ;)




Cat

And interesting quote from Beck about the rally.....

"It was not my intention to select 8-28 because of the Martin Luther King tie. It is the day he made that speech. I had no idea until I announced it," he said on his radio show in June, soon after the announcement of the rally.

"Whites don't own Abraham Lincoln. Blacks don't own Martin Luther King. Those are American icons, American ideas, and we should just talk about character, and that's really what this event is about. It's about honoring character," Beck said.

Sure, whatever, Glenn.

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We should keep this quote, however more in mind....

"Patriotism is the last vestige of a scoundrel."

-  Samuel Johnson

Glenn Beck's speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47V-dpiLM78&feature=related

Martin Luther King Jr.'s speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZLvSnr6s50&feature=related

I'll take Martin Luther King Jr.'s speech, over yours any day of the week, Glenn.

::)

Sarah Palin's speech from the rally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujba23mZ-0I&feature=related

Bob Herbert today:

America Is Better Than This
By BOB HERBERT
Published: August 27, 2010

America is better than Glenn Beck. For all of his celebrity, Mr. Beck is an ignorant, divisive, pathetic figure. On the anniversary of the great 1963 March on Washington he will stand in the shadows of giants — Abraham Lincoln and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Who do you think is more representative of this nation?

Consider a brief sampling of their rhetoric.

Lincoln: “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”

King: “Never succumb to the temptation of becoming bitter.”

Beck: “I think the president is a racist.”

...

Beck is a provocateur who likes to play with matches in the tinderbox of racial and ethnic confrontation. He seems oblivious to the real danger of his execrable behavior. He famously described President Obama as a man “who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture.”

...


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/28/opinion/28herbert.html


Cat

I agree with the foregoing posts.

Beck told Forbes magazine he doesn't "give a flying crap" about politics and he is in it for money.

I wish it were that simple.  Then Beck could be merely cynical.  But there's something else.  Our schools do not teach Lincoln or MLK beyond a few cursory reasons they are "American icons."  Therefore, it is easy for propagandists -- such as Beck -- to confound the people as to what either man stood for.  "Social justice" and "economic justice" are unpatriotic in Beck's book.  He is quite explicit in his intent to seize MLK and Lincoln for the right-wing.  Beck will take quotes out of context in order to trick the ignorant into thinking MLK would have approved of cutting foodstamps in order to give tax breaks to oil billionaires, and the ill-educated public will believe it.

Beck would say I'm just one of those liberal elites ("elite" even though he's got fifty million dollars and I've got diddley-squat), and I think Jack and Diane from the Heartland are "dummies."  I don't.  There is a difference between stupidity and a lack of education.  I'm the first to say I should know far more about history than I do.  Realizing it is half the battle.  

Economic royalists such as the Koch Brothers, who funded Beck's shindig, don't want Jack and Diane to have the education necessary to smell B.S. when propagandists such as Beck and Hannity shovel it out.  If you're from a rich family, you get to go to a 40K/year prep school and get a real education.  If you are from a poor family, you get NCLB education, which is little more than rote memorization of prescribed facts and figures for the big test.  The last thing the criminal class of counterrevolutionary* royalists want is for hoi poloi such as you and me to understand their nefarious schemes.

::)

* They (and by they I mean them) are against the ideals of the American Revolution.  Joe Stalin was all for the working man too, you know!

Apparently, Glenn Beck wants us to read The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis.

I'll get right on the way of readin it, Glenn.

::)

Apparently, Glenn Beck wants us to read The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis.

I'll get right on the way of readin it, Glenn.

::)


More like the screwy-tape letters in Beck's case.  Good effing grief!

"Wormwood and Screwtape live in a peculiarly morally reversed world, where individual benefit and greed are seen as the greatest good, and neither demon is capable of comprehending or acknowledging true human virtue when he sees it." (Wikipedia)

Hmmm...sound familiar, Glenn?
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Don't let Beck sour you on C.S. Lewis.  the un-Christian Christian Right keeps trying to marry Ayn Rand to Jesus Christ, but the differences are irreconcilable!  

Congratulations Maxwell!  Your post in this thread falls on the one-year anniversary of the birth of a meme.  That's right, it was on August 31, 2009, that someone first asked "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990?"  Never mind that Wikileaks douchebag, I just want to see Glenn Beck adequately address the question.


Don't let Beck sour you on C.S. Lewis.  the un-Christian Christian Right keeps trying to marry Ayn Rand to Jesus Christ, but the differences are irreconcilable!  


And now for something completely different.

Consider the two phrases "This post is dedicated to my parents, Ayn Rand, and God." vs. "This post is dedicated to my parents, Ayn Rand and God."

That, children, is why we the House of Foo follows the Chicago Manual of Style, for we support Oxford Comma, and the heathens who wrote the American Press do not.  Either that, or the head honcho behind the AP Style Guide thinks I had a really interesting childhood.

Congratulations Maxwell!  Your post in this thread falls on the one-year anniversary of the birth of a meme.  That's right, it was on August 31, 2009, that someone first asked "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990?"  Never mind that Wikileaks douchebag, I just want to see Glenn Beck adequately address the question.

And now for something completely different.

Consider the two phrases "This post is dedicated to my parents, Ayn Rand, and God." vs. "This post is dedicated to my parents, Ayn Rand and God."

That, children, is why we the House of Foo follows the Chicago Manual of Style, for we support Oxford Comma, and the heathens who wrote the American Press do not.  Either that, or the head honcho behind the AP Style Guide thinks I had a really interesting childhood.


Or as the caption on a popular t-shirt read:

"God is dead."
--Nietzsche

"Nietzsche is dead"
--God

:-\\

A couple of questions, Mr. Beck.

1)  Which God do you want us to turn back to?  Last time I checked, America is filled with dozen's of religions, some may not even worship the same concept of God.

2)  Does this mean your speech apply only to Conservatives, and no one else?

3)  So this mean you want a return to Colonial America?

4)  Were you high when heard this voice?

and finally....

5) Are you really for real, Glenn?

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A couple of questions, Mr. Beck.

1)  Which God do you want us to turn back to?  Last time I checked, America is filled with dozen's of religions, some may not even worship the same concept of God.

Go live in South Korea you Godless commies!

2)  Does this mean your speech apply only to Conservatives, and no one else?

Ask Dr. Laura!

3)  So this mean you want a return to Colonial America?

Noooo!  The British, the French, and the Spanish are all a bunch of socialist turncoats.  We just want tax cuts for the rich and for minorities to shut the hell up and go away if they can't get on like white Republicans!

4)  Were you high when heard this voice?

If I tell you, you'll ask for my connection.  I keep that secret!

and finally....

5) Are you really for real, Glenn?

I'm only in it for the money!

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Go live in South Korea you Godless commies!

Ask Dr. Laura!

Noooo!  The British, the French, and the Spanish are all a bunch of socialist turncoats.  We just want tax cuts for the rich and for minorities to shut the hell up and go away if they can't get on like white Republicans!

If I tell you, you'll ask for my connection.  I keep that secret!

I'm only in it for the money!

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Oddly enough, those are the answers I expect him to answer with!

;D

You get a plus one, for the post!

Glenn Beck's way--Christianity influenced USA--is the way of the future. Secularism and Liberalism are dead in every sense.
We will be the Christian United States within this century. You will see the end of all forms of government aid programs, abortions rendered illegal, evolution being thrown out of school books. The wave is coming. Glennbeckistan is on it's way, fast.

Glenn Beck's way--Christianity influenced USA--is the way of the future. Secularism and Liberalism are dead in every sense.
We will be the Christian United States within this century. You will see the end of all forms of government aid programs, abortions rendered illegal, evolution being thrown out of school books. The wave is coming. Glennbeckistan is on it's way, fast.


I am so glad, that I live in Canada, and not Glennbeckistan.

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I am so glad, that I live in Canada, and not Glennbeckistan.

::)


I just really fear that that is what my country is turning into.

He seems to think he is the new messiah sent to avenge and chasten us and yet his delivery is equal measures Joe McCarthy and Barney!
:D

He seems to think he is the new messiah sent to avenge and chasten us and yet his delivery is equal measures Jo McCarthy and Barney!
:D


Let's sing along with Barney and Glenn Beck!

You hate God, I hate you, you are a scumbag as plain as it can be.....

;D  :D

He seems to think he is the new messiah sent to avenge and chasten us and yet his delivery is equal measures Jo McCarthy and Barney!
:D



http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_I3EDOcZb0Es/THbSU_dv5rI/AAAAAAAAA8M/YGQj4Lrftqk/s400/Barney+Frank.jpg

:D ;D ;D ;D


Man, that looks like a mug shot.  :D ;D ;D ;D



Cat

No, not Barney Frank, Barney no Frank.  He 'ad an accident!
;)

I Found Jesus and Jesus Found Me Wanting

That's the title to my new Christian Country hit, don't cop it!

No, not Barney Frank, Barney no Frank.  He 'ad an accident!
;)

I Found Jesus and Jesus Found Me Wanting

That's the title to my new Christian Country hit, don't cop it!


No, that's a rule 34 invocation on Barney Frank and Jesus.  Don't let Rick Santorum hear about it or he'll want to be part of the Photoshop too.  Not that he has much choice.

No, that's a rule 34 invocation on Barney Frank and Jesus.  Don't let Rick Santorum hear about it or he'll want to be part of the Photoshop too.  Not that he has much choice.


FrankenJesus?
???

FrankenJesus?
???


Just the warm-up act.

Religion, Politics, and Economics: The Congressional Centipede.

Oh, the DK's already did "FrankenChrist."  I was thinking of Al Franken as the new messiah!
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