keeping it Grant... even Republicans don't seem to want it.

80% favor keeping Grant

Only if we bring back the $2 bill, this time with Jimmy Carter on it!
:D

Why not a fifty dollar bill, with Roger Taylor, from Duran Duran , instead?

;D

Why not a fifty dollar bill, with Roger Taylor, from Duran Duran , instead?

;D


That's a proposal I could get behind. 

Only if we bring back the $2 bill, this time with Jimmy Carter on it!
:D



The $2 bill is still being printed.



Cat

The $2 bill is still being printed.



Cat


I think technically they haven't printed any in a decade, they just dole them out so slowly they can print a decade's worth in a week and then cost off the stored up bills for ages.  Almost all the $2 bills I see are 1977 series.

The Woz story about handing out $2 bills is the best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_two-dollar_bill
In response to a comment received from a visitor to his website, Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple Computers, discussed an experience he faced while attempting to use $2 bills at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas. A common practice of Wozniak's was to legally purchase $2 bills in uncut sheets, then have the sheets perforated and adhered into pads, similar to a stationery  notepad. Wozniak recounts how he had tipped a casino waitress using some $2 bills torn from his custom-made bill pads, only to be questioned by casino security, and eventually the Secret Service, regarding the irregular perforated edges on the otherwise genuine bills.

I think technically they haven't printed any in a decade, they just dole them out so slowly they can print a decade's worth in a week and then cost off the stored up bills for ages.   Almost all the $2 bills I see are 1977 series.

The Woz story about handing out $2 bills is the best.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_two-dollar_bill
In response to a comment received from a visitor to his website, Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple Computers, discussed an experience he faced while attempting to use $2 bills at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas. A common practice of Wozniak's was to legally purchase $2 bills in uncut sheets, then have the sheets perforated and adhered into pads, similar to a stationery  notepad. Wozniak recounts how he had tipped a casino waitress using some $2 bills torn from his custom-made bill pads, only to be questioned by casino security, and eventually the Secret Service, regarding the irregular perforated edges on the otherwise genuine bills.



The 2003 series is the latest.

http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/currency/denominations.shtml


Go all the way to the bottom of the page.



Cat

Reagan on the $50 bill?  I bet alot of people would be misplacing them ;D

There's no reason to pur a different president on the $50, the one on there is OK as it is.

Now... We really do need a bill higher than a $100 bill.  Maybe reintroduce a $500 bill and put Ronnie on that one.  8)

You know what? Even though my dad never voted for him, as far as I'm concerned that if for nothing else, this speech made Reagan deserving of a spot on our currency:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtYdjbpBk6A&feature=related

Only if we bring back the $2 bill, this time with Jimmy Carter on it!
:D


Good idea Max.

While they are at it, they can make a $3 bill with Barney Frank on it.  ;D

Good idea Max.

While they are at it, they can make a $3 bill with Barney Frank on it.  ;D


What about the design on the back?
???

What about the design on the back?
???
They could have a picture of the Blue Oyster Bar from Police Academy.  :D

I'm not a fan of Reagan, but he was certainly a better president than Grant.

So, I'd actually support Reagan being on this bill.

Reagan?  How about a 1/3 of a dollar bill, after all he was only about that as a President.  He was the face of the party, not the brains. He was an actor who played a part, and won the hearts of those who really weren't paying attention to the script.


I'm not a fan of Reagan, but he was certainly a better president than Grant.

So, I'd actually support Reagan being on this bill.



Being President isn't criteria for being on the bill.  Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton never held the office.  I can't see removing anyone.  Mint a new coin or something, but no removal.

Don't forget the inscription (in purple crayon):

This note is legal tender for all debts oil sheiks, Chinese banks, and crony campaign contributors.

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/15/tard.gif

Reagan?  How about a 1/3 of a dollar bill, after all he was only about that as a President.  He was the face of the party, not the brains. He was an actor who played a part, and won the hearts of those who really weren't paying attention to the script.


Being President isn't criteria for being on the bill.  Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton never held the office.  I can't see removing anyone.  Mint a new coin or something, but no removal.


Well, I mean, if we're simply going by value to our heritage as the criteria for putting faces on bills, then replace Grant with Thomas Paine.

Well, I mean, if we're simply going by value to our heritage as the criteria for putting faces on bills, then replace Grant with Thomas Paine.



I don't think anyone should be removed, even Jefferson, the slave owning child rapist.  If they want to honor someone on a bill or coin they should produce one without dishonoring someone by removing them.

A thought came to me and I checked, I was right.  The idea to take Grant off was from a southern rep.  I wonder what made him choose Grant?  ::)

I don't think anyone should be removed, even Jefferson, the slave owning child rapist.  If they want to honor someone on a bill or coin they should produce one without dishonoring someone by removing them.

A thought came to me and I checked, I was right.  The idea to take Grant off was from a southern rep.  I wonder what made him choose Grant?   ::)


Well, Jefferson indisputably contributed more to our country than most other presidents.  The same can't be said of Grant.  Grant is also the president held in the lowest opinion of historians (American and worldwide) that still appears on a commonly used bill.  If there was any cultural reason to replace him, this would be a lot of the reasoning behind it.

Now, admittedly, I know this Representative had his own reasons.

I don't think anyone should be removed, even Jefferson, the slave owning child rapist.  If they want to honor someone on a bill or coin they should produce one without dishonoring someone by removing them.

A thought came to me and I checked, I was right.  The idea to take Grant off was from a southern rep.  I wonder what made him choose Grant?   ::)


It is also the "southern school" of historiography that has given Grant a bad rep, and not just because he was the winning general.  He also did a good deal to enforce the civil rights laws of the time, and the reconstruction act.

I don't think anyone should be removed, even Jefferson, the slave owning child rapist.  


Well, you gotta view Tommy Jeff in the right historical context.  In his time, it was legal to own slaves and, uh, it wasn't really "rape" if you, like, owned the child and whatnot...

:-\\

It is also the "southern school" of historiography that has given Grant a bad rep, and not just because he was the winning general.  He also did a good deal to enforce the civil rights laws of the time, and the reconstruction act.


Yes.  I do think he gets a bad rap, he wasn't a great Pres, but he wasn't the all consuming disaster some would like to think. 



Well, you gotta view Tommy Jeff in the right historical context.  In his time, it was legal to own slaves and, uh, it wasn't really "rape" if you, like, owned the child and whatnot...

:-\\


You got me on that one

It is also the "southern school" of historiography that has given Grant a bad rep, and not just because he was the winning general.  He also did a good deal to enforce the civil rights laws of the time, and the reconstruction act.


It goes beyond that though.  He was pretty shockingly corrupt and inept.

"During Reconstruction, Grant remained in charge of the Army and implemented the Congressional plans to reoccupy the South and hold new elections in 1867 with black voters that gave Republicans control of the Southern states. Enormously popular in the North after the Union's victory, he was elected to presidency in 1868. Reelected in 1872, he became the first president to serve two full terms since Andrew Jackson did so forty years earlier. As president, he led Reconstruction by signing and enforcing civil rights laws and fighting Ku Klux Clan violence. He helped rebuild the Republican Party in the South, an effort which resulted in the election of African Americans to Congress and state governments for the first time. Despite these civil rights accomplishments, Grant's presidency was marred by economic turmoil and multiple scandals. His response to the Panic of 1873 and the severe depression that followed was heavily criticized. His low standards in Cabinet and federal appointments; lack of accountability; generated corruption and bribery in seven government departments. In 1876, his reputation was severely damaged by the graft trials of the Whiskey Ring. He left office at the low point of his popularity."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant
Grant was somewhat like Lincoln in that he made several steps toward social progress, but his handling of economic affairs was very lacking.  Grant also had the additional drawback of not properly handling corruption in his administration.

It goes beyond that though.  He was pretty shockingly corrupt and inept.

"During Reconstruction, Grant remained in charge of the Army and implemented the Congressional plans to reoccupy the South and hold new elections in 1867 with black voters that gave Republicans control of the Southern states. Enormously popular in the North after the Union's victory, he was elected to presidency in 1868. Reelected in 1872, he became the first president to serve two full terms since Andrew Jackson did so forty years earlier. As president, he led Reconstruction by signing and enforcing civil rights laws and fighting Ku Klux Clan violence. He helped rebuild the Republican Party in the South, an effort which resulted in the election of African Americans to Congress and state governments for the first time. Despite these civil rights accomplishments, Grant's presidency was marred by economic turmoil and multiple scandals. His response to the Panic of 1873 and the severe depression that followed was heavily criticized. His low standards in Cabinet and federal appointments; lack of accountability; generated corruption and bribery in seven government departments. In 1876, his reputation was severely damaged by the graft trials of the Whiskey Ring. He left office at the low point of his popularity."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant
Grant was somewhat like Lincoln in that he made several steps toward social progress, but his handling of economic affairs was very lacking.  Grant also had the additional drawback of not properly handling corruption in his administration.


He, himself, wasn't corrupt, historians agree on that, but he was inept in regards to the people he appointed to positions of public trust. When the depression came Grant lost everything he had, unlike our recently past president who made out like the bandit he is.

He, himself, wasn't corrupt, historians agree on that, but he was inept in regards to the people he appointed to positions of public trust. When the depression came Grant lost everything he had, unlike our recently past president who made out like the bandit he is.


Grant liked a nip at the bottle now and again, which got to be a problem.
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/12/drunken_smilie.gif

Grant liked a nip at the bottle now and again, which got to be a problem.
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/12/drunken_smilie.gif


When he was in the army, but never around his wife.

Reagan?  How about a 1/3 of a dollar bill, after all he was only about that as a President.  He was the face of the party, not the brains. He was an actor who played a part, and won the hearts of those who really weren't paying attention to the script.


Being President isn't criteria for being on the bill.  Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton never held the office.  I can't see removing anyone.  Mint a new coin or something, but no removal.


"Ben Franklin, the only president never to be president!"

--Firesign Theater

I think technically they haven't printed any in a decade, they just dole them out so slowly they can print a decade's worth in a week and then cost off the stored up bills for ages.   Almost all the $2 bills I see are 1977 series.


Nope, a lot more recently then that.  This from Wikipedia:

The most significant evidence of the $2 bill's reawakening would be that, in 2005 alone, 61 million $2 bills were printed by the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing. This is more than twice the number of $2 bills that were printed annually between 1990 and 2001.

Personally, I always loved them.  Whenever I go to the bank I always ask for $2 bills, $1 coins and 50 cent pieces.  I love spending them, and seeing the reaction of others when I do so.  In fact, it was not unusual to see me with over 100 of them, and rolls of dollar coins.

The only reason they are not in use more often is that most businesses arrange their change drawers without a space for them.  And since the banks do not give them out unless asked, many are still trying to get rid of their stockpiles from decades ago.  But in some regions they are very common.  I know that I brought over $200 worth to Okinawa in 1988, and I saw that many were still in circulation 2 years later when I returned.