Apparently, he is now distributing "free books" about the theory of evolution, and just how bad it is.

::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0oBuhTLRI

Set phaser for hilarity!!!!!

;D

By the way, God's proof that Creationism, is the right theory, is the bananas!  ;D

Seriously, bananas!

It fits.... because he is bananas!  

Oh and check out, the Nightline Debate.

It's entertaining!

;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh3oIo6pvLM&feature=PlayList&p=CFD8B1CDB677CC7A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

Um....you meant Kirk right?  ???

He probably should have done his preaching in the 80s when he had more influence on teenage girls--- now he's just a sad....

the combination of the music and the image moving behind him is hypnotic....oh no its PROPAGANDA! MAKE IT STOP!!!  ::)

I wonder if Kirk Cameron realizes that Darwin made several references to a "Creator" in that book.  Certainly Darwin believed in natural selection, but also believed in a deity at the time of his writing "On the Origin of Species".  I believe it was afterwards that he decided he was undecided about religion.

Um....you meant Kirk right?  ???


Sorry, my bad!

;D

I wonder if Kirk Cameron realizes that Darwin made several references to a "Creator" in that book.  Certainly Darwin believed in natural selection, but also believed in a deity at the time of his writing "On the Origin of Species".  I believe it was afterwards that he decided he was undecided about religion.


Heaven forbid, if you Athetist, Agnogist, or undecided about religion. Because then..... You are EVIL!

::)

He (Kirk) is also in the Left Behind series, I have seen trailers for it, and dear God, it's as cheesy as heck!

;D

I'll just take my Jack T. Chick Tract Comic, thank you very much....

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Look how campy this is....

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And as for Kirk...I think he's gone a little too fundamentalist even for my blood. And I hope "Kirk" comes to DVD.

Well...since I can't help it, here's Part Two of that Evolution Tract (And can someone please tell me how many pics I can have per post)?

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Part Three will be coming extremely shortly....

Now this is where it starts to become like what Kirk would say....

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Part 4 is next....

Here's Part 4....(I'm either bored or tired today...probably both)!

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...I had to do more since this tract is 22 pages. Does anyone believe in Evolution?

I'll just take my Jack T. Chick Tract Comic, thank you very much....

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Look how campy this is....

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And as for Kirk...I think he's gone a little too fundamentalist even for my blood. And I hope "Kirk" comes to DVD.


Wow, those comic strips are just wow....  ::)  I can't believe that someone made those strips...  ::)

^Well, Jack Chick did!

And coming from a Christian...I disagree on how he trashes the Catholics and only using the King James Version!

Does anyone believe in Evolution?


I accept that the theory of evolution is true.

Unfortunately evolution is dying and we're going back to the era when religion dominated the earth. A majority don't believe in evolution anymore; they believe in christian creationism.

I accept that the theory of evolution is true.

* for certain values of the word "true"

There is currently no better explanation for the world we see around us - if one were to show up, I'd be happy to take that as "true".  However imagining a petty, vindictive, spiteful, prurient yet at the same time wise and loving creator doesn't seem to me to be a better explanation.

What pisses me off about idiots like Kirk Cameron (& Jack Chick) is not so much that they don't believe in evolution so much as the lies they tell about what science and evolutionary theory actually are.  Either they are utterly moronic in not understanding some incredibly simple statements, or they know perfectly well but are intentionally lying so as to maintain their positions of authority, power and, let's face it, wealth.

Kirk Cameroon is a complete weiner.  I am amazed that people actually buy his schlock "Left Behind" tapes.

Does anybody know if his sister Candace is a Kirk follower?  Would be a pity because otherwise she would be good party material.    :P

However imagining a petty, vindictive, spiteful, prurient yet at the same time wise and loving creator doesn't seem to me to be a better explanation.

Not all of us believe that.  Just the loudmouthed ones.

What pisses me off about idiots like Kirk Cameron (& Jack Chick) is not so much that they don't believe in evolution so much as the lies they tell about what science and evolutionary theory actually are.  Either they are utterly moronic in not understanding some incredibly simple statements, or they know perfectly well but are intentionally lying so as to maintain their positions of authority, power and, let's face it, wealth.


I vote for the latter explanation, although I don't think Kirk Cameron or Jack Chick make a lot of money off of it.  Quite frankly, I read Jack Chick's stuff to get a good LOL going.  I totally love the one where he explains gay people.


Does anybody know if his sister Candace is a Kirk follower?  Would be a pity because otherwise she would be good party material.    :P


She is, or so I heard.

*ETA*  Yes, she is.  Go to her website and dig around.

http://www.candacecameronbure.net/

I accept that the theory of evolution is true.


ditto

Unfortunately evolution is dying and we're going back to the era when religion dominated the earth. A majority don't believe in evolution anymore; they believe in christian creationism.

Not really, a higher percentage of people believe in evolution in America now than did a few decades ago.  Evolution is increasing in popularity, not decreasing.  I suppose you could say that people are evolving.  ;)

By the same token, the fastest growing demographic is of atheists/agnostics and the non-religious.

If anything, religion is dying -- at least in most of the First World.

* for certain values of the word "true"



But of course.  I suppose I was trying to avoid saying I "believed" in evolution.

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/

omfng, what a crock of sheesh (the intro). It's like Terrance and Philip explaining religion, except without the humor.


I vote for the latter explanation, although I don't think Kirk Cameron or Jack Chick make a lot of money off of it.  Quite frankly, I read Jack Chick's stuff to get a good LOL going.  I totally love the one where he explains gay people.

Got a link to that? I could use t-e-h lulz now.

Ant

http://www.wayofthemaster.com/

omfng, what a crock of sheesh (the intro). It's like Terrance and Philip explaining religion, except without the humor.

Got a link to that? I could use t-e-h lulz now.

Ant


Took me a minute.  I was too busy LOL'ing over the others.  This one tells how the homersexuals are indoctrinating the youth of America.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1052/1052_01.asp

Here's one about Muslims.  Nice little jab about airports in there.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1054/1054_01.asp

Here's Part 4....(I'm either bored or tired today...probably both)!

...I had to do more since this tract is 22 pages. Does anyone believe in Evolution?


Yeah, I do!

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(Serously.  If there's a Creator, it endowed our species with powers of reasoning and observation.  It'd be an insult not to use them.  If there's no Creator, then my fellow humans, dumb as we may be, are still the most intelligent animals I've ever encountered, and it'd be just as big an insult to them.)

But this is awesomely hilarious!  Are you scanning these in yourself (in which case, thanks!), or do you have a link to the original?

Seriously, it's like a Jack Chick tract (OK, so it is a Chick Tract, but with different artwork), but without the morbid creepiness of the originals.  I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but please, MOAR!

Side note:  The best thing about Chick Tracts is that they're all available - legitimately - for free, on the web, by the publisher.  I think Jack Chick is a nut.  I think he's an embarassment to religious and rational folk alike.  But I gotta applaud him for his decision to place all of his stuff on the web for free.  (When I was in college, we had to collect 'em from street-preacher fundies on a regular basis, and I still never had a complete set!)

Foo Bar:

http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlist.asp

Enjoy.  I just wasted two hours howling at them.

Foo Bar:

http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlist.asp

Enjoy.  I just wasted two hours howling at them.


Two hours of your life you'll never get back... nor will you want to! 

Seriously, the old-school Chick Tracts feature really good artwork.  It's a shame someone so talented was working on something so full of fail.  On the other hand, the artist's sincerity shines through -- on anything about which the artist was any less fanatical, the talent would have been wasted.

Holy- and I do mean holy-baloney!  At least he's well spoken.

When I first saw this video, i thought..oh man i gotta send this to friends!  BUT I think iI have a few that will respond with , "Thanks!  I feel the same way!  Wanna go protest next week?"

Wow.  I'm glad he's busy- I thought he was dead.  Kirk, that is.

Took me a minute.  I was too busy LOL'ing over the others.  This one tells how the homersexuals are indoctrinating the youth of America.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1052/1052_01.asp


Wonder what happens if you fill out the pledge with NO I don't accept jesus as my savior  ;D

Unfortunately evolution is dying and we're going back to the era when religion dominated the earth. A majority don't believe in evolution anymore; they believe in christian creationism.


I would not say "Christian", as much as "Judeo-Christian-Islamic" creationism.

I have talked to a lot of people, and I have met far more Muslims that accept "pure creationsim" then most Christians.  And the same goes for Fundamentalist Jews I have met.

I happen to like the guy, he seems very genuine and overall nice. His movies might not be the highest budget films, but they do draw audiences. His most recent film, Fireproof...is a good marriage tool for those with struggling marriages. It may not be for everyone...but it has helped some.

Two hours of your life you'll never get back... nor will you want to! 

Seriously, the old-school Chick Tracts feature really good artwork.  It's a shame someone so talented was working on something so full of fail.  On the other hand, the artist's sincerity shines through -- on anything about which the artist was any less fanatical, the talent would have been wasted.


Yeah, I'd be more down with his tracts if he didn't go into the, "OMG, y'all are sinners!" spiel.  Maybe he should concentrate on what the New Testament actually says rather than what the Old Testament focuses on.


Wonder what happens if you fill out the pledge with NO I don't accept jesus as my savior  ;D


Apparently you get tossed into a lake of fire. :D

Yeah, I'd be more down with his tracts if he didn't go into the, "OMG, y'all are sinners!" spiel.  Maybe he should concentrate on what the New Testament actually says rather than what the Old Testament focuses on.

Apparently you get tossed into a lake of fire. :D


mmm toasty!  ;D

Here's one about Muslims.  Nice little jab about airports in there.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1054/1054_01.asp


Isn't that little girl Punky Brewster?  And if so, why does Henry now have an eye patch?  ;D

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Checked this out, songs for the luck warm Church!

;D

Blest Be The Tie That Doesn't Cramp
My Style

Pillow of Ages, Fluffed for Me

I Surrender Some

I'm Fairly Certain That My Redeemer Lives

Sit Up, Sit Up For Jesus

Take My Life and Let Me Be

What An Acquaintance We Have In Jesus

Where He Leads Me, I Will Consider Following

He's Quite a Bit To Me

Oh, How I Like Jesus

Fill My Spoon, Lord

It Is My Secret What God Can Do

How to botch an alter call.

A few keys for those who don't want people saved in their altar calls)

Present an unbalanced message. Only let them see the heart-warming part of God’s character. Preach God’s love but leave out His holiness and justice. That way they’ll think He’ll let them into heaven no matter what.
Don’t mention repentance until they’re repeating a “sinner’s prayer.� Just get them to say, “I repent of all my sins� while they’re echoing you. They won’t know what they’re saying and they won’t count the cost.

Above all else, be dignified. Don’t get heart to heart with the people. They would get something out of what you said.

Skim over the gospel and push the prayer. Pretend the lost naturally understand what Christ has done for them.

Preach Jesus as a life enhancer not a life rescuer. Tell them how Jesus can improve their life but don’t show them Jesus as the only One who can save them from Hell. People will think if they reject Him they’re only losing out on a spiritual high.

Try to please the people instead of convert them. Tell them what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear.

Compromise the message to speed up the process. The Christians who have heard it a hundred times before will be pleased with that. The quicker they get out the quicker they can get to the restaurant.

Give them the impression that God is so good He won’t send anyone to hell. Don’t present the whole counsel of God or they might realize He is so good that He’ll see to it that justice is served and that all unrepentant sinners will be punished in the fire that is not quenched.

Speak to sinners as though they were saints. They’ll think they’re God’s children instead of the enemies of God they’ve made themselves into because of their sin. You’ll give them false assurance and mislead them.

Don’t mention sin or man’s guilt. Resist the urge to explain what Christ came to deliver us from. Don’t show them their need for the Savior. Otherwise it may all make sense.

Don’t look to the Bible for the substance of your altar call. Only mimic other preachers with large congregations.

Tell the lost not to feel bad about their sins. That way you will work against the Holy Spirit who’s convicting them

Whatever you do, never mention Judgment Day. Your audience might take spiritual matters seriously.

Tell them Jesus is the only way to heaven but don’t explain why. They may think it’s nothing more than fear tactics and leave offended instead of enlightened.

Confuse the call. This is a great way to botch up an altar call. Don’t let people know you’re asking them to commit their life to Christ. Be vague and general in what you’re saying. Neglect to mention following Christ in your evangelistic altar calls and say things like, “If you don’t feel you’re as close to God as possible raise your hand,� “If you feel lonely come to the front for prayer,� “If you want more of God this is your time,� and, “If you have struggles and need the answer come down.� Just get them to raise a hand. That way no one will be able to count the cost and you’ll even get saints to respond to salvation altar calls, making the results look more successful.

Only give them half the story. Tell them Jesus died to forgive everyone but overlook the fact that they must personally receive Him to partake of that forgiveness.

Present the truth as though it isn’t. Be so funny when you share Christ that you belittle the seriousness of the matter.

Preach forgiveness without repentance. That way no one will know how to be forgiven.

Be unbiblical. Present repentance and faith as an offer instead of how God does as a command (Acts 17:30).

Let them think next Sunday is the day of salvation. Don’t make them feel it’s urgent to respond today.

Never warn of hell. Dangle heaven in front of their nose but rarely mention hell, certainly not as much as Jesus did.

Only do altar calls inside the church. Never take the gospel where sinners congregate. The lost might get saved.

Use churchy terms. Use words like, “saved,� “repent,� and “born again,� without any explanation. That way your hearers won’t comprehend what you’re saying. If they can’t understand it, it’s probable they won’t be changed by it.

Give false assurance of salvation to unsaved Christians. Assure church folk that they are saved even if they bear no fruit. So that you don’t offend the unsaved pew warmers never quote 2 Corinthians 13:5: “Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith.� You could lose some financial supporters and have to depend on God.

Never mention the wrath of God. If you mention it, people might be awakened to flee to Jesus who “saves us from the wrath to come.� ( 1 Thess. 1:10)

Study how the apostles preached and witnessed and do the opposite. Don’t explain Jesus’ suffering death on the cross. Otherwise they may think of running to Him for forgiveness. Don’t speak of His burial or resurrection or they might realize He is God. Refrain from commenting about the hundreds of eyewitnesses who saw Jesus after He rose from the dead. That way they can go on thinking He’s a fairy tale. Overlook talk of the messianic prophecies Jesus fulfilled or they might realize that the Bible is true. If they see it’s the truth they may see that following Christ is the logical decision. And whatever you do, avoid what the apostles did when it came time to call people to obey the gospel. Don’t tell them to trust Christ and live for Him. That is too accurate. If they know how to get saved your altar call will be a success.

Put more emphasis on the “sinner’s prayer� then on repentance and faith. Satan will smile over your departure from Biblical instruction. We are never taught to use a ‘sinner’s prayer’ throughout the entire Bible. If you decide to use it and put more emphasis on the technique than on what we’re commanded to preach: faith and repentance you’ll certainly botch things up. A ‘sinner’s prayer’ doesn’t equal salvation, only faith in Christ and repentance toward God do.

Let Christians think you’re the only one who can do it right. Always leave the impression that they should only invite friends to church and never actually witness themselves. It will keep you in business and the lost unsaved.

Don’t let the lost know they are. Disregard subjects like Judgment Day, God’s holiness, man’s sinfulness and justice. That way the lost can continue to think they’re “good enough� to get into heaven.

Rely upon psychological techniques to manipulate people into responding to the altar call. Don’t rely upon the Holy Spirit or they may actually get saved.

Make sure you’re the main attraction. Remember the goal in botching up an altar call is for people to leave and say, “What a wonderful preacher,� instead of, “What a wonderful Savior.� Draw all possible attention to how great a speaker and person you are. Otherwise people might see Christ in your preaching and get saved.

Don’t focus upon Jesus. Finally, the best way to botch up an altar call is not to preach the gospel. Just get people to lift up a hand and pray a prayer with you. Resist the urge to speak of the only One who could save them.
Sometimes the best way to get a point across is to put it in a different light. You now know a few ways to botch up an altar call. Please do not employ them. Do the opposite. You may already do some of them. Don’t let pride keep you from changing and doing things in a Biblical fashion. The bottom line is how true we are to Christ and His word. Effectively reaching the lost is our purpose. Let nothing hold you back from that agenda. May God bless you as you seek to win people to Christ in Bible clubs, churches, conferences, on the street witnessing encounters, at your school, and at your workplace.

Adapted from Becoming an Emissary for God by Allen Atzbi

Some of the stuff, on the site is wacky!

;D

He was preaching back in the 80's.  Remember his fit about Julie (the Babysitter/love interest) having been in Playboy?  Kirk has no sense of reality, the older he gets the smaller his world and mind become.

He was preaching back in the 80's.  Remember his fit about Julie (the Babysitter/love interest) having been in Playboy?  Kirk has no sense of reality, the older he gets the smaller his world and mind become.


agreed! yeah didn't she get fired and his (future) wife got hired

Yeah, I do!

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(Serously.  If there's a Creator, it endowed our species with powers of reasoning and observation.  It'd be an insult not to use them.  If there's no Creator, then my fellow humans, dumb as we may be, are still the most intelligent animals I've ever encountered, and it'd be just as big an insult to them.)

But this is awesomely hilarious!  Are you scanning these in yourself (in which case, thanks!), or do you have a link to the original?

Seriously, it's like a Jack Chick tract (OK, so it is a Chick Tract, but with different artwork), but without the morbid creepiness of the originals.  I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing, but please, MOAR!

Side note:  The best thing about Chick Tracts is that they're all available - legitimately - for free, on the web, by the publisher.  I think Jack Chick is a nut.  I think he's an embarassment to religious and rational folk alike.  But I gotta applaud him for his decision to place all of his stuff on the web for free.  (When I was in college, we had to collect 'em from street-preacher fundies on a regular basis, and I still never had a complete set!)



Like I said before...The Chick Tracts that I disagree on are the ones that slander Catholics, like this one....

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0082/0082_01.asp

I just like looking at them...especially the ones that have the guys go to hell (yeah, I can be that cruel). But look at the first one, does that guy look like David Seville?

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0001/0001_01.asp

I would not say "Christian", as much as "Judeo-Christian-Islamic" creationism.

I have talked to a lot of people, and I have met far more Muslims that accept "pure creationsim" then most Christians.  And the same goes for Fundamentalist Jews I have met.


This is true.  Many Islamic nations are more adherent to creationism than Christian ones.  Even Turkey (one of the most secular Islamic-majority nations) has a higher percentage of creationist believers among their population than ours.

I happen to like the guy, he seems very genuine and overall nice. His movies might not be the highest budget films, but they do draw audiences. His most recent film, Fireproof...is a good marriage tool for those with struggling marriages. It may not be for everyone...but it has helped some.

Agreed. The Fireproof movie has helped some marriages.

And his "Left Behind" movies, altho a little bit cheesy, were quite good. I am glad his did those.

I haven't read nor seen his "free books" about the theory of evolution, and just how bad it is.", so I can't comment on that.

I haven't read nor seen his "free books" about the theory of evolution, and just how bad it is.", so I can't comment on that.


He didn't write the book.  He is just redistributing copies of Darwin's "On the Origin of Species", but with a special forward by Ray Comfort.

Like I said before...The Chick Tracts that I disagree on are the ones that slander Catholics, like this one....


Hey, it's all about the fanatacism: The smaller the actual difference of opinion, the greater the vehemence with which one's own position must be advanced.  (The preceding aphorism also completely explains academia and office politics, by the way.)


I just like looking at them...especially the ones that have the guys go to hell (yeah, I can be that cruel). But look at the first one, does that guy look like David Seville?


(He does now!)  Lulz!

I've done many a thing worthy of eternal burnination (all have laughed at things that they shouldn't have, and fallen short of the glory of Mod!) -- but playing D&D wasn't one of 'em.  So I gotta go with the Dungeons and Dragons one.  Ah, memories of my misspent youth. 

Huffington Post says what we only wish we could say. :)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/24/kirk-cameron-defends-his-_n_299084.html

So I gotta go with the Dungeons and Dragons one.  Ah, memories of my misspent youth. 

I remember seeing that one years ago, and thinking it was intended as a spoof.  I'd love to be in a position to debate with Chick about why he feels the need to lie so viciously and gratuitously about something he obviously finds threatening.

I remember seeing that one years ago, and thinking it was intended as a spoof.  I'd love to be in a position to debate with Chick about why he feels the need to lie so viciously and gratuitously about something he obviously finds threatening.


"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
  - C.S. Lewis, one of Christianity's only apologists for whom I have any respect at all.

Fanatics - be they religious or political - are neophobes at best, and clinical paranoids at worst.

If Dirk Rightman isn't terrified about the Democrats' Death Panels and their plans for his sweet old grandma, if Liberella Moonflower isn't terrified about BlackwaterXe's Genocide Squads, if Slim Straighty isn't terrified about them homerseckshuules (my God, they even managed to recruit God-fearin' folks like Larry Craig!), if Mrs. Stepford isn't terrified about them perverts, drunks, and toxic chemicals in her organic produce that could kill her children...

...then they might have to think for themselves.  The powers that be just can't have that, but more importantly, most people don't want to think for themselves.  They want to be told what to think, be congratulated on how smart they were for agreeing with the person who reminded them of everything they'd always believed, and live in their reality-tunnels for the rest of their lives.

For further information, consult the works of the late Robert Anton Wilson, specifically, The Illuminatus! Trilogy, and the discussions on homo neophobus vs homo neophilus.

Well, look at it this way.  At least he's not shooting heroin and knocking over convenience stores ala Core Feldman, Dana Plato, and Leif Garrett!
:P