A standing president (or for that matter any politician) should not be asking the school kids to "write letters on how to help him".

Now that said I have no problem with a Presidential speech to the school kiddies which promotes education, hard work, etc...  As long as it stays off the partisan trail (to either side of the spectrum) I see no harm.

This is sensitive territory though, because there are all sorts of world leaders (past and present) who try to implement a "cult of personality" such as Chavez in Venezuala, Castro in Cuba, and Jong Il in North Korea.  Now I am not saying that's what O'Bama is doing, but certainly I could see some people being wary of that.

Let's see what the speech transcripts say on Monday before casting judgement in either direction!  ;)

I wonder what these dipsy-doodles would say if Obama declared he would NOT address the schoolchildren of American?

:D

I think everyone in the mainstream media in the United States should be strung up by their pubic hair for giving these "issues" any legs to begin with.

A standing president (or for that matter any politician) should not be asking the school kids to "write letters on how to help him".





I think, given the administrations interest in getting people involved in volunteerism, education, and the grassroots political process, this was a naive attempt at engaging the kids in the political process.  Letting them think that they could actually write to the President and their views would carry weight.  If I was a child that would be my thought.  I personally don't think it is such a bad idea.

I think, given the administrations interest in getting people involved in volunteerism, education, and the grassroots political process, this was a naive attempt at engaging the kids in the political process.  Letting them think that they could actually write to the President and their views would carry weight.  If I was a child that would be my thought.  I personally don't think it is such a bad idea.


Yes, but it comes dangerously close to using the public school system as a political campaign tool.

But again let's see the script which comes out tomorrow.  Hopefully it will be nonpartisan and thus a cool experience for the kiddies.  :)

Mind you I tend to be on the other side of the aisle from O'Bama, but I am consistent in desiring to keep partisan politics out of events that are not supposed to be political conventions.

A few years ago I was at a swanky dinner, and Steve Forbes gave a very partisan speech.  At the end nearly everybody stood up and applauded, while I remained seated and quiet.  Several people came to me and asked "what did you disagree with" and I replied "Him showing up.  I came here for a pleasant dinner and fun, not a political lobbying session."

Yes, but it comes dangerously close to using the public school system as a political campaign tool.

But again let's see the script which comes out tomorrow.  Hopefully it will be nonpartisan and thus a cool experience for the kiddies.  :)

Mind you I tend to be on the other side of the aisle from O'Bama, but I am consistent in desiring to keep partisan politics out of events that are not supposed to be political conventions.

A few years ago I was at a swanky dinner, and Steve Forbes gave a very partisan speech.  At the end nearly everybody stood up and applauded, while I remained seated and quiet.  Several people came to me and asked "what did you disagree with" and I replied "Him showing up.  I came here for a pleasant dinner and fun, not a political lobbying session."


I am with you on this.  There is a fine line.  I think the Obama camp will be well aware that they are in the firing line, as well they should be, on this and it will be acceptable to all but the most rabid.

As of he last time I looked, the most totalitarian countries always had the lowest literacy rates.  Coincidence?

Personally I'm not against Obama's worksheets(except for one question I saw on the worksheets on CNN I think) or a speech to kids. The conservatives while I agree with them on cap and trade and health care they are going too extreme against Obama's speech or worlksheets to students.

www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26744.html

We know what this is about,  the justification posited is bull crap. 


Actually, the idea that he wants to give a speech does not bother me in the slightest.  As long as he is sticking to education and things of that nature, it does not bother me one little bit.  And I applaud him for it.

And while I admit to being bothered by the pamphlet that suggested putting the President's quotes on the board before every class, that would be simply aleviated by instead putting motivational quotes up by many people, not just the President's.

I think the only thing that bothered me in education and this administration was the Principal a week or so back that played a video clip that ended with a "Pledge to President Obama".

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/dust_off_that_obama_pledge_for.html

But President Obama had nothing to do with the video, so I place no blame on him for that.  But these are the kinds of things that are making people paranoid.  And in reality, it is not much different then the paranoia others had when President Bush was in office.  They see things and instead of thinking about them, they go off the deep end.

So the President wants to talk to the youth, good for him.  Hopefully, we will not have a repeat of the last instance where the President made the news while talking to children. 

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http://www.whitheouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

There's the speech.  Now maybe the people whining about it will STFU.

http://www.whitheouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

There's the speech.  Now maybe the people whining about it will STFU.


F**king Nazi.  Trying to tell our kids to succeed and study hard and all that commie propaganda. 

http://wagist.com/images/political/education.jpg



Good one. Karma for posting it.



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I just read the speech.  It is a good one, passes my test for nonpartisanship.

Anybody know if the "study plans" have been posted to the web yet? ???

Pre-K to 6th grade- http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/prek-6.pdf

7th to 12th grade - http://www.ed.gov/teachers/how/lessons/7-12.pdf

F**king Nazi.  Trying to tell our kids to succeed and study hard and all that commie propaganda. 


Dang it nowz I gotta home school my youngins cause they saw it!!!  :P

Okay, so after all the bullshyt and screaming about Obama turning the children into Socialist Nazi Communist Kenyan followers if they listened to him tomorrow, there is no response from the people who started this melee.  I thought for sure I'd be seeing commentary from whoever decided Obama was going to indoctrinate children with his motivational speech.  All I hear is deafening silence.  Is that because they realized that they look like asses or are they just gearing up for something else?

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Okay, so after all the bullshyt and screaming about Obama turning the children into Socialist Nazi Communist Kenyan followers if they listened to him tomorrow, there is no response from the people who started this melee. 


Of course not.  The melee has served its purpose: not to convince anyone of anything, but to reinforce group loyalty amongst Democrats ("Look at those crazy followers of the Elephant totem!  Fear them, for they seek power!  Donate to us to prevent it!") and Republicans ("See, them Donkey totem followers really is after yer childrens!  Fear them, for they have power!  Donate to us to save your fambly!") alike.

The people who started the melee are sitting back and laughing their faces off.

The only animal totem that matters in post-911 politics is the Seagull:  it swoops in, poops on the sunbathers, and takes all the food while the sunbathers fling the poop at each other.

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Of course not.  The melee has served its purpose: not to convince anyone of anything, but to reinforce group loyalty amongst Democrats ("Look at those crazy followers of the Elephant totem!  Fear them, for they seek power!  Donate to us to prevent it!") and Republicans ("See, them Donkey totem followers really is after yer childrens!  Fear them, for they have power!  Donate to us to save your fambly!") alike.

The people who started the melee are sitting back and laughing their faces off.

The only animal totem that matters in post-911 politics is the Seagull:  it swoops in, poops on the sunbathers, and takes all the food while the sunbathers fling the poop at each other.


I blame Obama... he should have scheduled it for a couple weeks into the school season, when their might be more newsworthy stuff going on and the news agencies could more safely ignore the neocon talking heads.

F**king Nazi.  Trying to tell our kids to succeed and study hard and all that commie propaganda. 


Yeah!  How dare he.

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Neocon Talking Heads?

Life During Wartime?
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EATONVILLE -- While some conservative parents remain outraged ahead of President Barack Obama’s planned back-to-school speech to America’s students Tuesday, the man who started the controversy said he will now let his children watch it in school.
Florida Republican Party Chairman Jim Greer said this speech is not the one he believed Obama planned to give initially, and that the president had eliminated a partisan political agenda.

In the text released by the White House, Obama encouraged the nation’s children to stay in school and develop goals, saying “What you make of your education will decide nothing less than the future of this country.�

“You can’t drop out of school and just drop into a good job,� the transcript said. “You’ve got to work for it and train for it and learn for it.�

Greer previously said he was appalled that taxpayer dollars were being spent to spread Obama’s “socialist ideology,� but after reading the speech, he will send his kids to see it in school.

“My children have been taught to have the highest respect for the presidency, and this president and all presidents,� Greer said. “After reading the text, seeing the Department of Education have told teachers they are not to lead students in the direction that they would have a week ago, my kids will be watching the president’s speech, as I hope all kids will.�

“I don’t advocate children not watching this president’s speech with this text,� Greer added.

Former First Lady Laura Bush said she supports Obama’s decision to speak to the nation’s schoolchildren, saying there is a place for the president to encourage kids to stay in school.

Some critics still said it has never been about the president talking to students, and all about him and the White House misleading parents, going directly to students with lesson plans encouraging teachers to have students write letters about how they can help the president.

Jim Greer said this speech is not the one he believed Obama planned to give initially 

I'm sure this is "belief" and not rooted in any kind of actual provable fact.

“My children have been taught to have the highest respect for the presidency, and this president and all presidents,â€� Greer said. 

But only if what he says is something I agree with, otherwise, not so much.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/09/07/barack-obamas-education-speech-the-un-socialist-indocrtination/

Why Ayn Rand and Barry Goldwater would have loved Obama's speech... because we all know what flaming liberals they were

All the brouhaha made me want to puke.  But now the parents may end up catching flack from the kids(high school age) who will wonder what is with their parents that they would object to the speech, and will slowly start to question their parents judgement, something they do quite well anyway.  Some of them will start to think their parents are a bit shrill(true dat) and start a slow swing to the left not wanting to be like them.  I am hoping anyway.  ;D 

"No matter what you want to do with your life – I guarantee that you'll need an education to do it. You want to be a doctor, or a teacher, or a police officer? You want to be a nurse or an architect, a lawyer or a member of our military? You're going to need a good education for every single one of those careers. You can't drop out of school and just drop into a good job. You've got to work for it and train for it and learn for it. . . .

But at the end of the day, the circumstances of your life – what you look like, where you come from, how much money you have, what you've got going on at home – that's no excuse for neglecting your homework or having a bad attitude. That's no excuse for talking back to your teacher, or cutting class, or dropping out of school. That's no excuse for not trying. . . .
I know that sometimes, you get the sense from TV that you can be rich and successful without any hard work -- that your ticket to success is through rapping or basketball or being a reality TV star, when chances are, you're not going to be any of those things. But the truth is, being successful is hard."

Where is the blind hatred, the Socialist - Marxist indoctrination, the evil, the "I gonna screw you all over",  that Beck and his buddies have taking about, in this speech?

Beck, Beck, anyone, anyone?

What got from the speech is that if you work hard, study, and apply yourself, you will get a half decent job one day. Nothing comes from sitting around doing nothing.

But trust Beck and pals, to read more into it, more than usual.

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But trust Beck and pals, to read more into it, more than usual.


Read? Read?  They didn't even listen to it, yet alone read it, before they flew off the handle.  Reading is something those intellectual liberal elites do.  Remember, we're coming off of 8 years of GW Bush, a man who doesn't read papers or even own books. 

Read? Read?  They didn't even listen to it, yet alone read it, before they flew off the handle.  Reading is something those intellectual liberal elites do.  Remember, we're coming off of 8 years of GW Bush, a man who doesn't read papers or even own books. 


Reading....... BAD!  Putting words in to others mouths, and yelling back at them for disagreeing with you..... OOOD!

BEHOLD..... FRANKENBECK!

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Gotta love this picture!

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