Turns out morally upright red states buy lots more porn than degenerate smelly-hippy blue states. utah comes out on top. is there something youre not telling us, ash?

http://wonkette.com/406691/religious-conservatives-crazy-for-porn

The biggest consumer, Utah, averaged 5.47 adult content subscriptions per 1000 home broadband users; Montana bought the least with 1.92 per 1000. "The differences here are not so stark," Edelman says.

montana, i'm pretty sure, contains no people. so it makes sense they wouldnt have very many porn subscriptions.

Turns out morally upright red states buy lots more porn than degenerate smelly-hippy blue states. utah comes out on top. is there something youre not telling us, ash?

http://wonkette.com/406691/religious-conservatives-crazy-for-porn
montana, i'm pretty sure, contains no people. so it makes sense they wouldnt have very many porn subscriptions.



Honestly, I'm not the least bit surprised.  I've always suspected all these uptight conservatives were secret perverts.  Just don't tell the neighbors! 

Somewhere (I don't feel like searching for it right now), Carlos & I mentioned about seeing many, many porn shops along Route 44 in Missouri-another "red" state.



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Somewhere (I don't feel like searching for it right now), Carlos & I mentioned about seeing many, many porn shops along Route 44 in Missouri-another "red" state.



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I will vouch for this.  Along the interstate in Missouri, you see one near every truck stop.  Indiana as well.

Honestly, I'm not the least bit surprised.  I've always suspected all these uptight conservatives were secret perverts.  Just don't tell the neighbors!   


Me too.

Hey.....

Red State people need to jack off, too!

;D

I saw an article on that at Huffington Post.  Typical hypocrites.  Anti-porn and protect their bogus moral compus in public, down right opposite in private.  Some people are just so darn uptight and need to just deal with reality.  Porn happens, illicit sex happens however I think it's wrong to punish people who are comfortable with it.  Of course the ones who aren't just yell "I have sinned" and hope people forget.

Or maybe blue states just know "why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free?"

I'm sure Howard will want to move to Utah now.



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I like the fact that Wonkette points out that they're actually paying for porn.

That might have to do more with having a lower IQ than being conservative, although there obviously is a lot of overlapping...

I like the fact that Wonkette points out that they're actually paying for porn.

That might have to do more with having a lower IQ than being conservative, although there obviously is a lot of overlapping...


Or is it "Wankette"?
???

I'll tell you something---bopping is the Christian thing to do.  If God didn't want us to masturbate, he wouldn't have made our arms so long!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/07/naughty.gif

Or is it "Wankette"?
???

I'll tell you something---bopping is the Christian thing to do.  If God didn't want us to masturbate, he wouldn't have made our arms so long!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/07/naughty.gif


...that and religion has a tendency to suppress sexuality.  Better to be wanking than fiddling choir boys.  lol

...that and religion has a tendency to suppress sexuality.  Better to be wanking than fiddling choir boys.  lol


You can say that again! 

Or is it "Wankette"?
???

I'll tell you something---bopping is the Christian thing to do.  If God didn't want us to masturbate, he wouldn't have made our arms so long!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/07/naughty.gif


Maybe that's why dinosaurs are extinct...because they wanted to be!  ;D

I'm sure Howard will want to move to Utah now.



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Only if Bloomburg hasn't restored the red light district.  As I recall Guilianni was hell bent on making New York City "family friendly"

Only if Bloomburg hasn't restored the red light district.  As I recall Guilianni was hell bent on making New York City "family friendly"


Rudy booted porno places out of the tourist destinations, but there's still smut in the city.  Rudy never gave credit where it was due either.  By the early '90s there was far less demand for porn in Times Square; porn had gone mainstream. 

I remember when the first video stores were opening a decade earlier, half their business was porn.  No need to go to some skanky theater with gooey seats when you could watch blue movies right in your own living room!  Furthermore, strip clubs became an industry.  Why wade through the pervos and the dope fiends on 42nd Street when you could drive to a nice "gentleman's club" in the 'burbs?

Approaching NYC from Connecticut you see billboards for a dozen porn boutiques right off the Interstate.  That would have caused moral panic when I was a kid; now nobody but a few bluenoses gives a rat's ass. 

Boston had a notorious red light district called the Combat Zone that abutted the theater district and ran concurrent with Chinatown for several blocks along Washington Street, Kneeland, and LaGrange.  The real estate boom in the '80s is credited for killing the Combat Zone, but I also think the redirection of consumer demand was a factor. 

Rudy booted porno places out of the tourist destinations, but there's still smut in the city.  Rudy never gave credit where it was due either.  By the early '90s there was far less demand for porn in Times Square; porn had gone mainstream. 

I remember when the first video stores were opening a decade earlier, half their business was porn.  No need to go to some skanky theater with gooey seats when you could watch blue movies right in your own living room!  Furthermore, strip clubs became an industry.  Why wade through the pervos and the dope fiends on 42nd Street when you could drive to a nice "gentleman's club" in the 'burbs?

Approaching NYC from Connecticut you see billboards for a dozen porn boutiques right off the Interstate.  That would have caused moral panic when I was a kid; now nobody but a few bluenoses gives a rat's ass. 

Boston had a notorious red light district called the Combat Zone that abutted the theater district and ran concurrent with Chinatown for several blocks along Washington Street, Kneeland, and LaGrange.  The real estate boom in the '80s is credited for killing the Combat Zone, but I also think the redirection of consumer demand was a factor. 


So in conclusion it's pretty much become decentralized and more private.  Somehow I can't equate shame and secrecy with higher demand.  After all porn is porn. 

So in conclusion it's pretty much become decentralized and more private. 


Widespread privates?
???

Widespread privates?
???


No.  Let me explain it too you another way.  Why be a pervert a walk into some crappy second rate porno theater when you can do it now at home.  Less people to deal with and it's unlikely that your home will be raided.

No.  Let me explain it too you another way.  Why be a pervert a walk into some crappy second rate porno theater when you can do it now at home.  Less people to deal with and it's unlikely that your home will be raided.



I used to raid my dad's porn stash!
:P

The Mormons are now the Pornmons.

The Mormons are now the Pornmons.

Or the More-porn-mons!

I used to raid my dad's porn stash!
:P


That less embarrassing than a police raid.  Wonder why cops were so interested in a place they went themselves?  :-\\  Guess that one thing I'll never understand about the Fuzz.

I used to raid my dad's porn stash!
:P



One time my parents found a bunch of Playboy magazines in my step-brother's room. His comment was "They have good articles." The only problem with that argument was the fact that my step-brother couldn't read.



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One time my parents found a bunch of Playboy magazines in my step-brother's room. His comment was "They have good articles." The only problem with that argument was the fact that my step-brother couldn't read.



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if you stare long enough, it starts to seem like the playmates are reading the articles to you. it's awesome.

if you stare long enough, it starts to seem like the playmates are reading the articles to you. it's awesome.


They do. :o  I was gyped, I had to read the articles myself. >:(

One time my parents found a bunch of Playboy magazines in my step-brother's room. His comment was "They have good articles." The only problem with that argument was the fact that my step-brother couldn't read.



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;D

I'd go to the newsstand, slide a copy of Harper's on the counter and tell the guy, I like the nudies! Heh heh!

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/07/naughty.gif

Thing is, Playboy really did have good articles.  Hustler...nnnnot so much!

My husband was reading an article about this in the online edition of our local paper, and one person commented "all this proves is that people in Utah are too stupid to find the free porn."

;D

My husband was reading an article about this in the online edition of our local paper, and one person commented "all this proves is that people in Utah are too stupid to find the free porn."


Actually, that's probably a big part of it.

Utah's got an older demographic, meaning it's got a lower ratio of experienced Internet users to n00bs.

Younger internet users: "What, people pay for porn?  Just get the .torrent of every Playmate from the 50s to today..."
Older internet users: "How do I click web?  Ooh, it's like TV on the computer, but with more channels!  Wonder if I can get Playboy channel on this thing..."

The other big variable in the market is that UT, being a religiously-dominated state, has fewer brick-and-mortar porn shops per capita, and you can probably forget about buying Playboy at the grocery store.

Inexperienced Internet user in New York or California:  "Whoa, midgets-and-goats.com?  They don't have that at the corner store, but that's not really my thing.  Why not just buy a copy of Playboy at the corner store instead?"
Inexperienced Internet user in Utah:  "Wow, playboy.com!  You can only get the magazine in the seedy part of the big city, which is 100 miles away.  Or by subscribing to the magazine, but if I sign up online, even my mailman doesn't have to know!  No embarassing plain brown wrappers!"

Net result:  Same per-capita pr0n consumption across the board, but more of it takes place online (and is therefore trackable by credit card) in UT as compared to other states.

Actually, that's probably a big part of it.

Utah's got an older demographic, meaning it's got a lower ratio of experienced Internet users to n00bs.

Younger internet users: "What, people pay for porn?  Just get the .torrent of every Playmate from the 50s to today..."
Older internet users: "How do I click web?  Ooh, it's like TV on the computer, but with more channels!  Wonder if I can get Playboy channel on this thing..."

The other big variable in the market is that UT, being a religiously-dominated state, has fewer brick-and-mortar porn shops per capita, and you can probably forget about buying Playboy at the grocery store.

Inexperienced Internet user in New York or California:  "Whoa, midgets-and-goats.com?  They don't have that at the corner store, but that's not really my thing.  Why not just buy a copy of Playboy at the corner store instead?"
Inexperienced Internet user in Utah:  "Wow, playboy.com!  You can only get the magazine in the seedy part of the big city, which is 100 miles away.  Or by subscribing to the magazine, but if I sign up online, even my mailman doesn't have to know!  No embarassing plain brown wrappers!"

Net result:  Same per-capita pr0n consumption across the board, but more of it takes place online (and is therefore trackable by credit card) in UT as compared to other states.


Your points make a lot of sense.  However, I assumed the Internet makes up an overwhelming percentage of the porn revenue which might not be true.  I mentioned all those porn stores and "novelty" boutiques with the huge billboards on the Connecticut interstates.  Somebody must be patronizing those!

I have subscribed to a few pay porn sites in my years as an Internet user.  Unless you've got a compulsion issue, you learn quickly it ain't worth it.  I'll spare the details, but they make it easier to subscribe than to cancel!  What's more, the content isn't any more thrilling than what you can dig up for free.  Nothing new under the sun.  Like the pimps and peddlers of yore would tell you, if you can tie a guy's how-do-you-do to his wallet, you can fleece him for everything he's got and sell him diddlysquat in return!
;)

most porn, most happiness.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/ap_on_re_us/states_of_happiness

coincidence? i doubt it.

WASHINGTON – Looking for happiness — it's family-friendly communities for some, tropical paradise or the rugged West for others. A survey of Americans' well-being, conducted by Gallup in partnership with Healthways and America's Health Insurance Plans, gives high marks to Utah, which boasts lots of outdoor recreation for its youthful population.

Speaking of outdoor recreation, the islands of Hawaii took second place and Wyoming was third in the poll that rated such variables as mental, physical and economic health.

But fun outdoors obviously wasn't the only criteria — "wild, wonderful" West Virginia was ranked last among the states.

And the bluegrass state of Kentucky was 49th, with Mississippi 48th on the list.

In general, highest well-being scores came from states in the West while the lowest were concentrated in the South. The happiest congressional districts were some of the wealthiest, while the lowest scores came in some of the poorest.