http://afp.google.com/media/ALeqM5i2I47mud8PNsjzt9ZzXr1pNh3_hA?size=l

Not a photoshop. 

Source: An Agence France-Presse photographer shot it during the Senate hearings today, and someone mirrored it here in case the AFP/Google link goes away.

When I am declared emperor, I will find the person who held up that sign, and appoint that person as Secretary of the Treasury.

(I know we already have a bailout thread, but that picture was so full of awesomely epic win that I think it deserved its own thread.)

all day I was saying a different four-letter word starting with F!
:P

all day I was saying a different four-letter word starting with F! :P


You and me both.  I really hope the Senators (R and D alike) were just playing to their respective bases in an effort to whore up votes for the election.  If they really believed that stuff, we're in more trouble than we thought.  Warren Buffett's $5B chip into the pot of Goldman Sachs (gets him 10% forever, or a chunk of the company) will help us tomorrow, but it'll be the politicians who take credit for it.

If it's any consolation, Max, the market's been too manipulated this past week for any investor (retail or institutional) to make a buck off it without inside political connections.  Both the statists and free market advocates are at last being reamed equally :)

And if that's not consolation, I think even you and I could agree that we're up to Track 14 of The Meatmen: War of the Superbikes II, which is available from both Amazon and eMusic, but this board won't let me post a link to the eMusic sample, because its title has four four-letter-woirds beginning with "F", and none of them are "Fail".  Because the Meatmen are not Fail, for they were made of Win and God, 20 years before Win and God became a meme.)

HA!

Truer words were never spoken.  Simple yet true.

all day I was saying a different four-letter word starting with F!
:P


;D I imagine a lot of people are saying that on Wall Street...  :o

You know, F-A-L-L, I'm looking forward to voting in the fall!

Sure, I remember, they're the Meatmen, and we suck!

http://i33.tinypic.com/24df1xd.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/24df1xd.jpg


they used to talk about welfare queens.  now it's time to start talking about welfare manhattan!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/10/tophat.gif

they used to talk about welfare queens.  now it's time to start talking about welfare manhattan!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/10/tophat.gif


Indeed...  Republicans only support socialism when it involves subsidizing the rich.  The sad thing is...  The Democrats haven't exactly gone against it either.

Sure, I remember, they're the Meatmen, and we suck!


Y'know, if Heart has a problem with Barracuda, then I say we outsource the music for both campaigns to Tesco Vee and friends.

John McCain: Centurions of Rome
Sarah Palin: Come on over to Mah Crib
Tom Tancredo: True Grit
Larry Craig: Tooling for Anus

Barack Obama: Razamanazz (or if you want a serious one, he's the only one who could carry Turbo Rock...)
Hillary Clinton: Lesbian Death Dirge
Bill Clinton: Blowjobs Ain't Cheatin'
Joe Biden: I went through the entire discography, and the just doesn't have enough personality to qualify for any Meatmen song.

They're gonna pass it, aren't they?  :\'(

They're gonna pass it, aren't they?  :\'(


Yeah, they keep mentioning how there's been some adjustments made to the bill.  I hate it when we have to pay for the greed of corporate losers. 8-P

It's kind of irksome that if Wall Street doesn't get bailed out in some way, though, tons of people are going to be affected anyway...you really think the CEOs of failing businesses will want to infuse their millions back into the economy to save us from this crisis?  :P

It's kind of irksome that if Wall Street doesn't get bailed out in some way, though, tons of people are going to be affected anyway...you really think the CEOs of failing businesses will want to infuse their millions back into the economy to save us from this crisis?  :P


Remember that line in Mel Brooks History of the World Part 1 where the Roman Senate is voting on whether they should build houses for the rich or help the poor.  The senators shouted f**k the poor.  No one wants to give up their cash to help the average citizen.  Reagan's trickle down theory in action, however who has to bail them out when they screw up?  Joe Shmoh from Nebraska.

Yeah, they keep mentioning how there's been some adjustments made to the bill.  I hate it when we have to pay for the greed of corporate losers. 8-P


it sucks, expecially when the bad CEOs get lots of money - i.e. Stan Oneill of Merilll Lynch and his $130mm.  Unfortunately, we have to unlock credit so everyone can get loans.

This bailout will not cure everything.  HOUSES MUST SELL, which they are not doing so right now.  Prices must continue to fall and rates MUST NOT go up.  We need a combination of low prices and low rates to entice buyers!

it sucks, expecially when the bad CEOs get lots of money - i.e. Stan Oneill of Merilll Lynch and his $130mm.  Unfortunately, we have to unlock credit so everyone can get loans.

This bailout will not cure everything.  HOUSES MUST SELL, which they are not doing so right now.  Prices must continue to fall and rates MUST NOT go up.  We need a combination of low prices and low rates to entice buyers!


Right the bail out won't get houses moving again because no one in their right mind will write a mortgage.  Not only that consumers were borrowing against the value of their home that some defaulted on.  There's not enough money in the world to fix this problem.  It's a consumer behavior problem as much as a Wall Street problem.

Y'know, if Heart has a problem with Barracuda, then I say we outsource the music for both campaigns to Tesco Vee and friends.

John McCain: Centurions of Rome
Sarah Palin: Come on over to Mah Crib
Tom Tancredo: True Grit
Larry Craig: Tooling for Anus

Barack Obama: Razamanazz (or if you want a serious one, he's the only one who could carry Turbo Rock...)
Hillary Clinton: Lesbian Death Dirge
Bill Clinton: Blowjobs Ain't Cheatin'
Joe Biden: I went through the entire discography, and the just doesn't have enough personality to qualify for any Meatmen song.

Meatmen are lightweights.  You need real hardcore for a McCain/Palin campaign song!  Too bad GG's dead!
:\'(

They're gonna pass it, aren't they?  :\'(


Your guess is as good as mine.  If I had testicles made of brass, I'd wait for tomorrow's crash, buy all the financials I could, and when Congress passes it over the weekend (after the debate, which McCain's handlers won't let him miss), I'd bank serious coin on Monday.

My testicles are unfortunately made of meat, not brass.  I will sit on my meager pile of cash and watch it all happen from afar.  If I'm very lucky, I'll return to my home, instead of a smoldering ruin after the beginning of the food riots.

You know, F-A-L-L, I'm looking forward to voting in the fall!

Sure, I remember, they're the Meatmen, and we suck!


I thought it was the word that Country Joe made popular.

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/political-pictures-henry-paulson-banks-belong-us.jpg

You know, F-A-L-L, I'm looking forward to voting in the fall!

Sure, I remember, they're the Meatmen, and we suck!
i was thinking "F-O-R-K," as in fork over your cash for the govt!

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/political-pictures-henry-paulson-banks-belong-us.jpg


Brrrrr...that sends shivers up my spine!  Those eyes, they're like, "I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti!"
:o

Those eyes, they're like, "I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti!" :o


http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8471/drevilpaulsonweblv6.jpg

Seven... hundred... billion... dollars!

You know, F-A-L-L, I'm looking forward to voting in the fall!

Sure, I remember, they're the Meatmen, and we suck!


I'M the Meatman.

I like the title of this thread, BTW.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8471/drevilpaulsonweblv6.jpg

Seven... hundred... billion... dollars!


Neh, don't think Bernicki could work as mini-me.

This bailout will not cure everything.  HOUSES MUST SELL, which they are not doing so right now.  Prices must continue to fall and rates MUST NOT go up.  We need a combination of low prices and low rates to entice buyers!


But the lower the mortgage rate, the more that Joe Sixpack thinks he can pay for the house, because he's looking at the monthly payment, not the total cost of the house.  That's a catch-22.  Japan tried it in the 90s, with the result that the Bank of Japan held rates as close to zero as possible, and commercial real estate still dropped 90% and never recovered. 

It's all water under the proverbial bridge; I really don't like Friday's reaction to the failout bill's final approval.  I've heard of buy the rumor and sell the news, but barring a massive global coordinated rate cut on Sunday (Oct. 5th), Friday (Oct. 3rd)'s action really doesn't bode well for the next week. 

So here's another picture worth $850,000,000,000 ($700 billion plus another $150 billion in pork):

After two weeks of Congressional dithering, the bailout may turn out to be...

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l395/just2quixotic/Insufficient.jpg

...too little, too late.

Pinned beneath a rock and faced with the choice of starving to death or cutting off its own arm, Congress came to a bipartisan solution -- it chose to do both.

As one economist put it last week:

"Wall Street is holding a gun to it's own head and threatening to pull the trigger!" :D

But the lower the mortgage rate, the more that Joe Sixpack thinks he can pay for the house, because he's looking at the monthly payment, not the total cost of the house.  That's a catch-22.  Japan tried it in the 90s, with the result that the Bank of Japan held rates as close to zero as possible, and commercial real estate still dropped 90% and never recovered. 

It's all water under the proverbial bridge; I really don't like Friday's reaction to the failout bill's final approval.  I've heard of buy the rumor and sell the news, but barring a massive global coordinated rate cut on Sunday (Oct. 5th), Friday (Oct. 3rd)'s action really doesn't bode well for the next week. 

So here's another picture worth $850,000,000,000 ($700 billion plus another $150 billion in pork):

After two weeks of Congressional dithering, the bailout may turn out to be...

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l395/just2quixotic/Insufficient.jpg

...too little, too late.


That picture (if, in fact, it is real, and not 'chopped) doesn't consider the possibility the nice gentleman there with the bucket is throwing fuel onto the fire, in which case he scores a win. The glass isn't half empty, it's full of debt and on its way to the ground.

Are there any "Failout" demotivational posters yet?

Ant

well, as of this writing the stock market is down 540-odd points, to 9700ish. thank god for the bailout! if it hadn't been for that, imagine how much more the stock market would have gone down!

Are there any "Failout" demotivational posters yet?


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2899655234_9a9e17db6c.jpg?v=0

Done...

http://www.marcofolio.net/images/stories/fun/imagedump/demotivational_posters/homeless.jpg

...and done!

How much are shares in SOL today?
:o

well, as of this writing the stock market is down 540-odd points, to 9700ish. thank god for the bailout! if it hadn't been for that, imagine how much more the stock market would have gone down!


Down 540 points on Monday October 6th, you say?

http://www.sethbarnes.com/blogphotos/sethbarnes/www/groundhog_day.jpg

Around here, we call that Tuesday October 7th.

Down 540 points on Monday October 6th, you say?

http://www.sethbarnes.com/blogphotos/sethbarnes/www/groundhog_day.jpg

Around here, we call that Tuesday October 7th.


Nice shot of Bill Murray.  That's what I felt like driving in Manhattan last weekend!  You finally just say, fuggit!  I gotta get where I gotta get and you become part of the problem!
:P

I'm afraid I can't say I mind much seeing Wall Street's parade being so peed upon.  The NYSE has been adulated my entire adult life as some magic money machine from the gods!  Now the S in NYSE no longer stands for Stock!

So AIG wants more money:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/08/news/companies/aig/index.htm?cnn=yes

Yet they managed to spend almost half a million on an executive retreat a few days after getting their first bailout:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/08/politicians.meltdown.aig.ap/index.html

So AIG wants more money:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/08/news/companies/aig/index.htm?cnn=yes

Yet they managed to spend almost half a million on an executive retreat a few days after getting their first bailout:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/08/politicians.meltdown.aig.ap/index.html


Did you here about that big party they throw after the bail out?  Guess someone has to pay to clean it up.  The retreat was only ONE thing. >:(

Did you here about that big party they throw after the bail out?  Guess someone has to pay to clean it up.  The retreat was only ONE thing. >:(


It's like the college kid who cons his parents out of an extra $100, he says, for books, then he cashes the check and blows it at a strip club!
::)

So AIG wants more money:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/08/news/companies/aig/index.htm?cnn=yes

Yet they managed to spend almost half a million on an executive retreat a few days after getting their first bailout:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/08/politicians.meltdown.aig.ap/index.html


Maybe we could swing a deal with AIG.  We could publicly execute the CEO in exchange for the money.  I think if the government even just proposed that deal, AIG would be too scared to ask for more money and would probably work a lot harder to put things right.

Sometimes a little intimidation isn't such a bad thing.

Maybe we could swing a deal with AIG.  We could publicly execute the CEO in exchange for the money.  I think if the government even just proposed that deal, AIG would be too scared to ask for more money and would probably work a lot harder to put things right.

Sometimes a little intimidation isn't such a bad thing.


Maybe also change what AIG stands for: Ammunition Is Guaranteed.


So AIG wants more money:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/08/news/companies/aig/index.htm?cnn=yes

Yet they managed to spend almost half a million on an executive retreat a few days after getting their first bailout:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/08/politicians.meltdown.aig.ap/index.html


440k for a picnic? Please tell me that at least 1000 people got strippers, drugs, food, lodging and entertainment for a weekend. 440k here can buy a LOT of bbq and beer... different worlds I suppose.

Ant

We could publicly execute the CEO in exchange for the money. 

It's not not capital punishment, it's enhanced revenue collection techniques!
:D

Down 540 points on Monday October 6th, you say?

http://www.sethbarnes.com/blogphotos/sethbarnes/www/groundhog_day.jpg

Around here, we call that Tuesday October 7th.
lol. fubar, i must say you've been in rare form. i dont know what's funnier, this, the furry madness, or "tonight, we trade in hell."

Maybe also change what AIG stands for: Ammunition Is Guaranteed.

440k for a picnic? Please tell me that at least 1000 people got strippers, drugs, food, lodging and entertainment for a weekend. 440k here can buy a LOT of bbq and beer... different worlds I suppose.
Ant


Up here, it would be Chicago style hot dogs, Chicago style pizza, and some Goose Island Ale, 312 preferably. :D

I accidentally caught some of Oprah this morning, and she was discussing the AIG thing with some other people I don't care about.  The rich old cow actually had a good point.  AIG is saying that they used some sort of fund for the retreat.  Well then, why the hell didn't they use that fund to bail themselves out?  She also said something about how some of the people took their pets on the retreat, and that cost like $500 extra because they got pampered too. :P

Maybe also change what AIG stands for: Ammunition Is Guaranteed.

440k for a picnic? Please tell me that at least 1000 people got strippers, drugs, food, lodging and entertainment for a weekend. 440k here can buy a LOT of bbq and beer... different worlds I suppose.

Ant

Friend of my was all P.O.'d about that bailout party.  I reassured her that corporate America pours ten times that amount down a sieve every day.  440K in a an astronomical sum such as 700B is like you have a million dollars, now give me a $20 so's I can buy a pack of Kools and a Hustler!
;D