There seem to be two ideas of God. One is that he's merciful and cuddly, the other that's he's like some stern, borderline abusive father who loves very conditionally and doesn't take sheesh.

Do you see him as one, the other, or both?

I think you need to put that bong away

I don't believe in either.

I think you need to put that bong away


No!  I haven't had my turn yet!

I think you need to put that bong away




No!  I haven't had my turn yet!



see it's moments like these that make me glad I am a member here...




There seem to be two ideas of God. One is that he's merciful and cuddly, the other that's he's like some stern, borderline abusive father who loves very conditionally and doesn't take sheesh.

Do you see him as one, the other, or both?



Wow only two ideas of God.... the theologians are gonna be mad at you.

Hell the fanatics are too for that abusive father thing.... .


You forgot the include a segment for those who don't believe at all...

now here's my thing. I don't believe but I know that others do. I fully respect that they have this faith that I don't buy into.

What I like about religion is the fact that people believe because it is written...it strange but wicked cool that you can follow so blindly.

What I don't like is the hypocrisy that comes with the practice of faith. I think people who truly believe in God see him as your first choice kind and loving....yet there are a lot of followers of faith who are neither. They spend a lot of time judging... Judging those who don't believe, judging those who follow a different faith and judging those who don't follow the rules written 2000 years ago that, may or may not now be irrelevant due to advances in technology and medicine. 


Just saying, using a Christan faith based idea of God. God is forgiving that's why Catholics have confession, people can be absolved of their sins- that's why there are last rites

so why do the religious (not all usually just the fanatics who give the rest of you guys a bad name anyway) why do they feel it's alright to act in an unChristian like manner....in the name of God?





Bring the pain... I can take it.

I ain't touching this one :-X

Stop taking the words right out of my brain, Snoz!!

I ain't touching this one :-X


I should learn my lesson but I never do.



Stop taking the words right out of my brain, Snoz!!


sorry....  ;D

From a pragmatic point of view, I think God is like in that Far Side cartoon where he makes the Earth in a big saucepan, then sprinkles in "Jerks" to make things interesting...as in, He created the Universe, He created evolution and stuff, now He's just sitting back and enjoying the show.  

From a pragmatic point of view, I think God is like in that Far Side cartoon where he makes the Earth in a big saucepan, then sprinkles in "Jerks" to make things interesting...as in, He created the Universe, He created evolution and stuff, now He's just sitting back and enjoying the show.  



so were just like his own little weeble world or Lego village?  I like it.  ;D

so were just like his own little weeble world or Lego village?  I like it.  ;D


Yeah, maybe God is a scientist and just wants to see what happens to us crazy beings in a big science experiment.

God is not your babysitter and not your kindergarten teacher and not Santa Claus either.
::)

Again, if a God exists, the Godfellas episode of Futurama is probably the closest expression of my opinion of what It would be like.

For you Judeo-Christian types, it's entirely consistent with the Biblical story of Job.  When you do things right, nobody knows you've done anything at all.  Thus spake god to Bender out of the whirlwind.

There seem to be two ideas of God. One is that he's merciful and cuddly, the other that's he's like some stern, borderline abusive father who loves very conditionally and doesn't take sheesh.

Do you see him as one, the other, or both?


I may be wrong but if you read the Old Testament I think you'll see a wrathful, unmerciful, iron-handed God most of the time, whereas in the New Testament -well, mostly in the Gospels- you'll possibly find that other more benign version -not in the Revelations, mind you!  ;D

Also, I would like to add that it appears to me that whether or not one believes in God, one had better accept and acknowledge the immensely powerful role that religious beliefs still play in human societies -especially if one wants to change that! 

I may be wrong but if you read the Old Testament I think you'll see a wrathful, unmerciful, iron-handed God most of the time, whereas in the New Testament -well, mostly in the Gospels- you'll possibly find that other more benign version -not in the Revelations, mind you!  ;D

Also, I would like to add that it appears to me that whether or not one believes in God, one had better accept and acknowledge the immensely powerful role that religious beliefs still play in human societies -especially if one wants to change that!   


Okay, some days I seem that God is stern and vengeful. He basically tells me "No, you can't have this." or "No, you have to wait even longer".

I'm STILL struggling to get my Drivers License and I may have to take the Written Test 10 times.

So right now, I feel God is stern.  :(

oddly, one of my favorite blogs totally featured this subject today.

http://joshreads.com/images/08/09/i080904famcirc.jpg

"Speaking of those rejected by their Creator, we have Jeffy desperately trying to get the attention of the benevolent God that he still believes to exist, despite the evidence of his own torment. It doesn’t matter how loud you shout, Jeffy! You’re always going to have to debase yourself with awful puns and wear the hideous purple union suit, because that is His inscrutable plan."

http://joshreads.com/?p=1702

I don't know about God, but his son can bust a move.






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Go Jesus go!

Go Jesus go!
it's a little early to say, but given what we've seen so far it looks like a promising year for jesus this season.

so were just like his own little weeble world or Lego village?  I like it.  ;D


Weebles I remember those!!! ;D

He's missing a few pieces in the village set.  No wonder he's frustrated.

Weebles I remember those!!! ;D

He's missing a few pieces in the village set.  No wonder he's frustrated.
apropos of nothing, we played a hippy festival last weekend and i got my car jump-started by a woman named "weebles." i guess that's sorta like "moon unit" or "sunbeam."

apropos of nothing, we played a hippy festival last weekend and i got my car jump-started by a woman named "weebles." i guess that's sorta like "moon unit" or "sunbeam."


I knew a girl back in the day who was named Sunshine.  I also went to school with a guy named Zephyr.

I knew a girl back in the day who was named Sunshine.  I also went to school with a guy named Zephyr.
I recently met a girl named Honeybee  ::)

I recently met a girl named Honeybee  ::)



I went to school with someone named Honeybell.



Cat

I went to school with someone named George.  It was amazing, haven't seen that name before. 

I went to school with someone named George.  It was amazing, haven't seen that name before. 



Wow, what a coincidence. I also went to school with a guy named George.



Cat

;D

I recently met a girl named Honeybee  ::)

Know anyone named Melissa?  Same diff.

I went to school with a girl whose maiden name was Holly Schick!


oddly, one of my favorite blogs totally featured this subject today.

http://joshreads.com/images/08/09/i080904famcirc.jpg



Bil Keane is the antichrist!
http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/03/diablotin.gif

I don't believe in either.

Ditto

I don't believe in either.
Ditto

Whenever I want to find God, I place myself in front of a mirror.

Whenever I want to find God, I place myself in front of a mirror.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9ppDdotbU

i'm gonna get in trouble.  :(

^

interestingly, both obama AND mccain had this guy as their pastor for a while, and the only reason we haven't heard about it is that neither campaign wants to bring it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9ppDdotbU

i'm gonna get in trouble.  :(




^

interestingly, both obama AND mccain had this guy as their pastor for a while, and the only reason we haven't heard about it is that neither campaign wants to bring it up.



You mean that guy is for REAL?? I was thinking it was a spoof and laughed throughout it. If it for real, then my reaction should be the same as Carlos-disgusted.



Cat

You mean that guy is for REAL?? I was thinking it was a spoof and laughed throughout it. If it for real, then my reaction should be the same as Carlos-disgusted.



Cat
i dunno, but i think it's a put-on. obviously with weirdo pastors it can be hard to tell.

I worked with both a George and a Melissa.  ;D  I know its a little late to add that comment.

I was also in classes, in the 7th grade with a kid named Donald Duck  ;D

I worked with both a George and a Melissa.  ;D  I know its a little late to add that comment.

I was also in classes, in the 7th grade with a kid named Donald Duck  ;D


If my surname was "Duck," I'd change it, but that's not an option whan you're 13.  His parents were downright cruel!  I'm trying to think of a situation in which he stated his full name and nobody laughed or said, "don't get mouthy, kid," but I can't. 
::)

If you want a name that commands respect, here's one I saw a couple of weeks ago:
Neil Toomey.

If my surname was "Duck," I'd change it, but that's not an option whan you're 13.  His parents were downright cruel!  I'm trying to think of a situation in which he stated his full name and nobody laughed or said, "don't get mouthy, kid," but I can't. 
::)

If you want a name that commands respect, here's one I saw a couple of weeks ago:
Neil Toomey.




I have come across my share of unusual names.

We've dealt with a Norman Bates and a Frederick Kruger.  Not kidding....neither of them were serial killers tho  ;D

Also, and this is the cruelest one of all (and I should know having had to suffer with a name like Tamarra for 40 years)

I came across a guy born in 77/78 whose name is Kunta Kinte White..... I mean really what were the parents thinking?

I have come across my share of unusual names.

We've dealt with a Norman Bates and a Frederick Kruger.  Not kidding....neither of them were serial killers tho  ;D

Also, and this is the cruelest one of all (and I should know having had to suffer with a name like Tamarra for 40 years)

I came across a guy born in 77/78 whose name is Kunta Kinte White..... I mean really what were the parents thinking?



About ten years ago UMass had a basketball player named Winston Smith (and he was a big brother).  Then there's the Texas Rangers outfielder named Milton Bradley.  Wikipedia reports his father was also Milton Bradley!
:D

About ten years ago UMass had a basketball player named Winston Smith (and he was a big brother).  Then there's the Texas Rangers outfielder named Milton Bradley.  Wikipedia reports his father was also Milton Bradley!
:D


I worked with a Win Smith  ;D lol names are fun...


Oh I just pulled this movie quote off of my myspace page.

It's from the movie The Island starring Ewan McGregor.

LINCOLN SIX-ECHO: What's "God"?
McCORD: Well, you know, when you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it? God's the guy that ignores you.

If my surname was "Duck," I'd change it, but that's not an option whan you're 13.  His parents were downright cruel!  I'm trying to think of a situation in which he stated his full name and nobody laughed or said, "don't get mouthy, kid," but I can't. 
::)

If you want a name that commands respect, here's one I saw a couple of weeks ago:
Neil Toomey.



One of the best bass players is Donald 'Duck' Dunn, but sometimes I feel like Donald Duck. I have to struggle, there's a cloud over my head, I'm always unlucky, everyone else takes the credit, I get angry over every little thing, but luckily I never had a 'Wardrobe Malfunction'.

I have come across my share of unusual names.

We've dealt with a Norman Bates and a Frederick Kruger.  Not kidding....neither of them were serial killers tho  ;D

Also, and this is the cruelest one of all (and I should know having had to suffer with a name like Tamarra for 40 years)

I came across a guy born in 77/78 whose name is Kunta Kinte White..... I mean really what were the parents thinking?





I knew a Janet Jackson. The poor girl-every called her "Nasty".  I also knew a John Glenn (who was a really cool guy).

I have mentioned this before but I know OF (but don't know the guy personal) a Warren Pease.

Yeah, yeah, I know we have gone off of topic so sue us.  ;D ;D ;D



Cat

I knew a Janet Jackson. The poor girl-every called her "Nasty".  I also knew a John Glenn (who was a really cool guy).

I have mentioned this before but I know OF (but don't know the guy personal) a Warren Pease.

Yeah, yeah, I know we have gone off of topic so sue us.  ;D ;D ;D



Cat


Used to be a player on The Mets named Howard Johnson. ( He always wore an orange helmet) :D
Running and ducking for cover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9ppDdotbU

i'm gonna get in trouble.  :(


I think you've just discovered "Hatha Toilet Seat Meditation"!  ;D

Lets all open up our wallets to page 12 & sing

Bringing in the dollars....
Bringing in the dollars....
We will do accounting ......
Counting out the cash..

Personally its the individuals choice whats.what

I did enjoy Jimmy Baker's lawyer telling the press."Hes curled up like a dog on the floor crying"
(Baker on not wanting to go to prison!)

Or Swaggert's tale of jerkin the gerkin to Mom & Daughter hooker team in the motel room..

Pukka Orchestra's - Goldmine in The Sky
(great justice for the weasels of religion)

You have a friend in Jesus
He's been a good friend to me
I know who to thank for all the money in my bank
Since he made me a star on TV

Jesus has been a good living
He's a well that never runs dry
I'm your heavenly host
Broadcast live coast to coast
From that goldmine in the sky

It's a gold mine
And it's all mine
Far be it from me to ask why
I'm quite content
If the lord pays the rent
On that goldmine in the sky

I've found the new testament
Was a damn good investament
Every time I read it, I cry
And Mary Magdaleenie
Drives a brand new Lambourghini
To that goldmine in the sky

It's a gold mine
Not a land mine
You'll see it before you die
Send your dollars today
And I'll show you the way
To that goldmine in the sky

When the dollar is weak
Thank god for the meek
They're never in short supply
Thousands of lungs
Are speaking in tongues
From that goldmine in the sky

So you have a friend in Jesus
And you have a friend in me
Others may say
That crime doesn't pay
Well maybe they don't watch TV

So let's praise the lord
Send what you can afford
'Cause he's just a regular guy
He'll put your soul at rest
It's time to invest
In that goldmine in the sky

It's a gold mine
Not a land mine
You'll see it before you die
Send your dollars today
And I'll show you the way
To that goldmine in the sky

It's a gold mine
And it's all mine
Far be it from me to ask why
I'm quite content
If the lord pays the rent
On that goldmine in the sky

Goldmine in the sky
Goldmine in the sky
Goldmine in the sky



Nothing beats the USA when it comes to "NUT JOBS"

Prostitution & Religion are two of the oldest businesses on the planet....