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Subject: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/07/06 at 6:59 pm

Red River Parish, Louisiana, school bus driver sends black students to the back of the bus, front seats are for white students only!  Coushatta school district bus driver, Delores Davis, suspended pending investigation.  School officials won't talk to press.  Story picked up briefly in national news media.  As it stands two weeks later, the incident appears to be isolated.  Maybe Davis is just out of her tiny mind.  Still, I find this creepy in conjunction with the apparent racism at hand in post-Katrina Lousiana.  Where there's smoke, there's fire, as the saying goes.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060825/NEWS01/608250331
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/08/24/back.of.the.bus.ap/index.html
>:( ::)

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Tony20fan4ever on 09/07/06 at 7:35 pm


Red River Parish, Louisiana, school bus driver sends black students to the back of the bus, front seats are for white students only!  Coushatta school district bus driver, Delores Davis, suspended pending investigation.  School officials wont't talk to press.  Story picked up briefly in national news media.  As it stands two weeks later, the incident appears to be isolated.  Maybe Davis is just out of her tiny mind.  Still, I find this creepy in conjunction with the apparent racism at hand in post-Katrina Lousiana.  Where there's smoke, there's fire, as the saying goes.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060825/NEWS01/608250331
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/08/24/back.of.the.bus.ap/index.html
>:( ::)
Bus driver Davis is disgusting. A not-so-subtle reminder that intolerance and bigotry are still alive and well in the hearts and minds of some Americans.

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Jessica on 09/07/06 at 10:56 pm

I read about this. It goes beyond disturbing. Ugh. :P

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Tanya1976 on 09/07/06 at 11:27 pm

Whew, this country is going to be insane in ten years.

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Sister Morphine on 09/07/06 at 11:28 pm


Red River Parish, Louisiana, school bus driver sends black students to the back of the bus, front seats are for white students only!  Coushatta school district bus driver, Delores Davis, suspended pending investigation.  School officials won't talk to press.  Story picked up briefly in national news media.  As it stands two weeks later, the incident appears to be isolated.  Maybe Davis is just out of her tiny mind.  Still, I find this creepy in conjunction with the apparent racism at hand in post-Katrina Lousiana.  Where there's smoke, there's fire, as the saying goes.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060825/NEWS01/608250331
http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/08/24/back.of.the.bus.ap/index.html
>:( ::)




Beat her ass with a rubber hose.

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/08/06 at 12:26 am


Whew, this country is going to be insane in ten years.



Feh, it's insane today...but I think there are more Southern whites than anyone wants to admit who think Jim Crow is the way things ought to be. Things are getting reeeeal ugly in Louisiana.  They want to rebuild New Orleans NOT for the citizens, but for hotels, casinos, and theme parks.  I think the way the feds are abusing the displaced black population may give certain whites a feeling of license.




Beat her ass with a rubber hose.

That may soon be incorporated into the new Louisiana penal code!

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Tanya1976 on 09/08/06 at 11:41 am


Feh, it's insane today...but I think there are more Southern whites than anyone wants to admit who think Jim Crow is the way things ought to be. Things are getting reeeeal ugly in Louisiana.  They want to rebuild New Orleans NOT for the citizens, but for hotels, casinos, and theme parks.  I think the way the feds are abusing the displaced black population may give certain whites a feeling of license.
That may soon be incorporated into the new Louisiana penal code!


You don't have to tell me since I've felt it  ;).

What I was referring to is the fact that whites will be in the minority in about ten years as those of color will be the majority. So either they will have to shape up or discover a deserted island all of their own.

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Ashkicksass on 09/08/06 at 11:44 am

That makes me sick.  She damm well better be fired!

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Don Carlos on 09/08/06 at 1:16 pm

Racism and prejudice, as I have said before, are alive and well in this country.  This "female dog" is prejudice, the treatment of Big Easy blacks is institutional racism.

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/08/06 at 1:40 pm


You don't have to tell me since I've felt it  ;).

What I was referring to is the fact that whites will be in the minority in about ten years as those of color will be the majority. So either they will have to shape up or discover a deserted island all of their own.

That's why white supremicists such as Pat Buchanan are calling for a halt on immigration for all non-whites.  I don't know if Spanish and Portugese people count if they're from Europe.  Pat Buchanan was pretty specific about "white, English-speaking, educated, and wealthy" immigrants only.  That's what it says at the Statue of Liberty:  "Give us your white, your English-speaking, your rich, and your educated."
::)

The white minority seemed pretty pleased with itself in South Africa.  I think that's closer to what the Right has in mind. 

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Davester on 09/09/06 at 3:19 am

  Wait a second...

    When I was in school, everyone fought to sit in the back of the bus.  It was the best place on the bus.  Could get away with things - pass the gum with the ladies...

   Seriously, this just an instance of individual stupidity rather than racial separatism.  School district probably threw her under the bus groove ;) on...

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: MaxwellSmart on 09/09/06 at 2:04 pm


   Wait a second...

    When I was in school, everyone fought to sit in the back of the bus.  It was the best place on the bus.  Could get away with things - pass the gum with the ladies...

   Seriously, this just an instance of individual stupidity rather than racial separatism.  School district probably threw her under the bus groove ;) on...

Let's hope so.  I don't mean to cast aspersion on school bus drivers, but some of the ones we had were not the most upstanding members of the community.  A couple of 'em looked like they just got out of the drunk tank that morning! It's no surprise a bus driver acted like a creep.  What disturbed me was the way everybody in the system ducked for cover.

I remember when I was at UMass one of the cafeteria workers let a racial slur fly.  An African-American student couldn't decide between two entrees, so he says "eeny-meeny-miney-moe...," and the old crone behind the counter finished the rhyme:
"Catch a n*gg*r by the toe!" 
Hell to pay. Protests for a month. Demands for her firing, and mandatory racial sensitivity courses for all white employees.  I had some contrarian opinions about the matter that got ME labelled as "racist."
She was a bout 78 years old.  I don't think she meant any malice.  That's just the way she heard it all of her life.  Like if I say, "Fi fi fo fum..." You say, "I smell the blood of an Englishmun!"  The "eeny-meeny" clean-up was already established when I was a kid.  I thought it was always "Catch a tiger by the toe" (some may know it as "Catch a fella by the toe").  I did hear a white trash kid inthe playground say it the nasty way, but I thought it was just a nasty variation on "tiger."  I didn't learn until much later that "Catch a n*gg*r by the toe" was the original going back perhaps 100 years. 

A lot of working class people in that caf worker's generation never really caught on to the absolute taboo of the word.  When the correct word was "Black," my stepbrother's grandparents still used "Negro."  That was the polite word as they learned it.  One time we had some jumping jacks (those firecrackers that bounce along the ground), and his grandmother said in this sweet Edith Bunker voice, "Oh, we used to call those 'n*gg*r chasers!'"  Then we had to stand there with poker faces as she caused us to do so many times!

But there's a difference between words and actions.  The bus driver took it upon herself to break the law and violate the civil liberties of the children of color.  If the school district does not fire her, then by default, I think they are liable for civil rights violations as well.  I have not seen the official documents governing the school district, but I'm sure the prohibition of racial discrimination is among them.  The cafeteria server had no position of authority to commit discrimination.  The bus driver did.

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: Foo Bar on 09/09/06 at 2:46 pm


I remember when I was at UMass one of the cafeteria workers let a racial slur fly.  An African-American student couldn't decide between two entrees, so he says "eeny-meeny-miney-moe...,"


For sheer comedy gold, how 'bout the time when, on Southwest Airlines, the flight attendent (on Southwest, the FAs typically goof around with the passengers during boarding) says "Eeny-meeny-miney-moe, pick a seat, we gotta go!"

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JohnLeo/2003/12/01/hey,_were_all_vicitms_here

Much like the flight attendant and you, and anyone else born after 1950/60, I also grew up with the "tiger" version on the rhyme. 

Fortunately, and in a rare departure from precedent, the courts exhibited common sense, (victimspeak translation: furthered the emotional abuse and oppression by reinforcing the racism and violence inherent 'in the system by kicking the plaintiff) by kicking the plaintiff out on her money-grubbing landshark-whoring arse.

Subject: Re: Jim Crow Rides Again!

Written By: CatwomanofV on 09/10/06 at 12:37 pm


Let's hope so.  I don't mean to cast aspersion on school bus drivers, but some of the ones we had were not the most upstanding members of the community.  A couple of 'em looked like they just got out of the drunk tank that morning! It's no surprise a bus driver acted like a creep.  What disturbed me was the way everybody in the system ducked for cover.

I remember when I was at UMass one of the cafeteria workers let a racial slur fly.  An African-American student couldn't decide between two entrees, so he says "eeny-meeny-miney-moe...," and the old crone behind the counter finished the rhyme:
"Catch a n*gg*r by the toe!" 
Hell to pay. Protests for a month. Demands for her firing, and mandatory racial sensitivity courses for all white employees.  I had some contrarian opinions about the matter that got ME labelled as "racist."
She was a bout 78 years old.  I don't think she meant any malice.  That's just the way she heard it all of her life.  Like if I say, "Fi fi fo fum..." You say, "I smell the blood of an Englishmun!"  The "eeny-meeny" clean-up was already established when I was a kid.  I thought it was always "Catch a tiger by the toe" (some may know it as "Catch a fella by the toe").  I did hear a white trash kid inthe playground say it the nasty way, but I thought it was just a nasty variation on "tiger."  I didn't learn until much later that "Catch a n*gg*r by the toe" was the original going back perhaps 100 years. 

A lot of working class people in that caf worker's generation never really caught on to the absolute taboo of the word.  When the correct word was "Black," my stepbrother's grandparents still used "Negro."  That was the polite word as they learned it.  One time we had some jumping jacks (those firecrackers that bounce along the ground), and his grandmother said in this sweet Edith Bunker voice, "Oh, we used to call those 'n*gg*r chasers!'"  Then we had to stand there with poker faces as she caused us to do so many times!

But there's a difference between words and actions.  The bus driver took it upon herself to break the law and violate the civil liberties of the children of color.  If the school district does not fire her, then by default, I think they are liable for civil rights violations as well.  I have not seen the official documents governing the school district, but I'm sure the prohibition of racial discrimination is among them.  The cafeteria server had no position of authority to commit discrimination.  The bus driver did.




I learned it as "catch a TIGER..." I can't remember how old I was the first time I heard it the other way but I do remember that I was appalled-even at a young age. That is one word that I NEVER say and I am offended when I hear people use it (and I don't care what color they are).


Cat

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