So, it's in the dictionary..it's still a hideous word.
What he actually means is "remember".


No, the article states Memorialize, and I agree with that.

Memorialize: To provide a memorial for; give honors for those who are dead
Remember: To retain in the memory

Yes, Memorialize fits the idea much more closely.


PSAthiests?

PPS The "t - e - h" filter is an odd one: it seems to think that any word with t.e.h. in has "the" misspelt, rather than only the definite article...


And that is what the group is calling itself.  And that is also what their lawyer addresses them as.

And I agree about the spell check.  It is strange that it catches some errors like that which is not in error, then ignores others which are much more ovbious.  :)

And that is what the group is calling itself.  And that is also what their lawyer addresses them as.

Are Athiests people who don't believe there's a Dog?

...you obviously didn't click the link, then.

What often puzzles me is how some items in the news are simply not talked about.  Here are a few things that I have been tracking:


You know what you need? You need your own radio talk show so you can talk about all these important stories the main stream media ignores!
;)

Are Athiests people who don't believe there's a Dog?


Maybe if they're dyslexic.

You know what you need? You need your own radio talk show so you can talk about all these important stories the main stream media ignores!
;)


Why?  I have everybody in here that I can rant and rave at.

Maxwell, want to hear my theories about the link between pedophile prieses and flouride in the water?  :D

In all honesty, the wonder is that none of these ever seems to have been brought up, by anybody.  Some are rather trivial I know, but a lot of things that are even more trivial are brought up and treated like life and death topics.

I knew about the Antillies article a while back, but I did not think it would be appropriate to bring up in a discussion about abortion.  After all, the topic of legalization/restricting that in the US is a totally seperate issue from a politician wanting them to be mandatory in certain instances.  One is a moral issue that changes from person to person, while the other should be outright condemned by everybody.  It is closer to being a euthenasia topic then an abortion one.

Maxwell, want to hear my theories about the link between pedophile prieses and flouride in the water?   :D

Well, there'd probably be fewer paedophile priests if they put bromide in the water instead ;)


Maybe if they're dyslexic.

Do I have to spell it out: "athiest" is "atheist" spelt wrong.  That's why I gave the link to Martin's excellent athiests page.  Would you call yourself a Christain, then?

I think the atheists in Utah are pretty insensitive to the idea of honoring fallen law enforcement officers with crosses...I wonder what they think of our armed forces having crosses marking WW2 fallen soldiers, like there is in Normandy.....If the atheists don't like it, they can ignore the crosses. Why make such a big stink over honoring fallen heroes with a cross, especially if they are Christians?

I think the atheists in Utah are pretty insensitive to the idea of honoring fallen law enforcement officers with crosses...I wonder what they think of our armed forces having crosses marking WW2 fallen soldiers, like there is in Normandy.....If the atheists don't like it, they can ignore the crosses. Why make such a big stink over honoring fallen heroes with a cross, especially if they are Christians?


*highlight is mine*

This is something I agree with.  As long as a cross is appropriate for the person who died, I find absolutely nothing wrong with it.

And a small point, not all soldiers are honored with a cross.  If the person who dies is Jewish, they get a Star Of David.  If they are Islamic, they get a crescent moon.  Since then, the standard headstone has changed design, and now the symbols are either attached with a plate, or carved into a "classical" headstone design.

Here is a picture from the cemetary at Normandy.  You can see 2 headstones for fallen Jewish soldiers, but they are can be hard to see surrounded by crosses.

*Note the stone placed on the cross in the foreground.  This is a jewish tradition, and is commonly remembered as being shown in the final scene of Schindler's List.  At the end of the movie, the actors and surviving "Schindler's Jews" and their families were seen placing stones on the tomb of Oscar Schindler.*

Not so much "especially" if they are Christians, but *only* if they are would probably be a better way of putting it, IMO.

...and I will admit that atheists objecting to crosses on the basis that other faiths might not like it does leave a bit of a sour taste in the mouth.

...and I will admit that atheists objecting to crosses on the basis that other faiths might not like it does leave a bit of a sour taste in the mouth.


I agree there.  Unless you are so fundamentalist that you have no tollerance for any religion, I can not see any problems.  And if somebody was that intollerant, then there would never be any pleasing them in the first place.

I have known "real athiests" in the past, and to most of them, they find religion silly and largely ignore it.  It is not their belief, so they do not care as long as it does not directly involve them.

The group that is doing this is what I call "Born Again Atheist".  They are trying to spread their religion in a fundamentalist way, trying to force everybody to view "God" in their way.  The fact that they do not have a "God" makes no difference.  They are still desciples for no god, preaching the advantages of no god, and trying to get people to convert to the faith of having no god.

I dated a gal for a while that was like that.  One of the realizations that she was nuts is that in her house I saw all these books on Wicca, Islam, and other religions.  The only religion that was forbidden to be discussed was Christianity.  She claimed to be an "Atheist Wiccan", whatever that is.  I think she was just crazy and confused.

And the funny thing is, she later became a Mormon.  :D

She claimed to be an "Atheist Wiccan", whatever that is.  I think she was just crazy and confused.

I think you're probably right...


And the funny thing is, she later became a Mormon.   :D

I think you might have used one too many "m"s ;)

Ok, I hate to be a stinker, but I read this as "Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was awarded the Inspirational Leadership Award by Jim Randles, National Commander for the Military Order of the Purple Heart." It was the Inspirational Leadership Award, not the Purple Heart, she received.


Yeah, I think Mushroom was confused about this part. If you follow the link on that first page he posted, it explains:

http://www.clinton.senate.gov/news/statements/details.cfm?id=251629&&

Hillary Clinton received the Purple Heart INSPIRATIONAL LEADERSHIP AWARD, which is awarded to civilian politicians in recognition of their support of the military:

"Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was awarded the Inspirational Leadership Award by Jim Randles, National Commander for the Military Order of the Purple Heart (MOPH). Also present for the award ceremony was Richard Weeks, New York State Commander, MOPH, who is from Albany, New York. One Member of Congress is chosen for this award each year. Senator Clinton is the first woman to receive this honor."

The Inspirational Leadership Award is separate from the actual Purple Heart medal, which is awarded for military service:

"The Order of the Purple Heart for Military Merit, commonly known as the Purple Heart, is the oldest military decoration in the world in present use. The Purple Heart is awarded in the name of the President of the United States to members of the Armed Forces who are wounded in conflict with an enemy force, or while held by an enemy force as a prisoner of war, and posthumously to the next of kin of members of the Armed Forces who are killed in conflict with an enemy force, or who die of a wound received in conflict with an enemy force. There are over 1,535,000 recipients of the Purple Heart Medal, approximately 550,000 of whom are still living."

I dated a gal for a while that was like that.  One of the realizations that she was nuts is that in her house I saw all these books on Wicca, Islam, and other religions.  The only religion that was forbidden to be discussed was Christianity.  She claimed to be an "Atheist Wiccan", whatever that is.  I think she was just crazy and confused.

Do a little research before you shoot your mouth off.

Lots of Wiccans consider themselves Atheist. In Wicca some people worship the Roman pantheon, some the Indian, some the Celtic or Norse, or some people choose to focus on the God and the Goddess(Lord and the Lady), and some people see these deities as purely symbolic.  They don't literally believe in them hence, they are atheists.

I can't believe you said that considering how you always lecture us on knowing our facts.. :D

Do a little research before you shoot your mouth off.

I can't believe you said that considering how you always lecture us on knowing our facts.. :D


Remember, I said she was crazy.  Religion was not anything I normally asked about back then when I was dating somebody.  She was raised Baptist, and was always going on and on about how evil Christanity was.  But she would talk about Islam, or some other religion and that was perfectly OK.

As I said, she was not Atheist, simply anti-Christian.  In fact, I think her biggest problem after we broke up is that I started to date a girl that was Christian.  In her definition, Atheist" meant "Anti-Christian".

And several of our friends were genuine Wiccans.  They all thought she was crazy too.  2 of them were leaders of a local Coven, and the wife even sang at my fiance's funeral.  They certainly had no problems with Christians.

Myself, I do not see why a real atheist would have a problem with somebody else having a religion, as long as they did not try to force it on them.  I do not believe in "The Great Bird God", but I would not get mad if somebody started to tell me about him/her/it.