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Subject: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: RLStern on 11/27/21 at 2:59 pm
In 2000, we were in an era continuing off the late 90's, where not only every one of the main music genres were booming(Pop, Hip-Hop, Rock, Country, Gospel) were booming but their Sub-genres were too(Numetal, Teen Pop, Lyrical focused Hip Hop, etc).
Any genre you liked was booming, hence a show like TRL featuring almost every genre, sure Teen pop and Numetal were the top dogs, but every other genre was doing well.
late 2001-mid2002 we enter a transition where all the sounds are the same but a little more urban.
Then 2002/2003 and forward, the only genres dominating were Alt Rock, Hip Hop(Notably Bling) and Urban Pop.
Except for mid 2000's with Punk and late 2000's with Electropop, the decade wasn't as musically diverse as we thought it would be when entering the decade.
Watch the 2000 MTV music awards then watch 2003, 2005 or 2009, whereas 2000 has every genre dominating, the rest are only the 3.
What would I blame this on?
Two things:
Neptunes, not because they were bad, but because every artist wanted to use them, it started in 2001 with the Backstreet boys with "the Call" then NSYNC & Britney, then after Justin went solo and etc, while most songs they made were a hit, problem was other producers tried emulating them, instead of doing their own thing.
9/11 which led to more depressive music & songs with slower BPM dominating.
The best example is Britney Spear's work with Neptunes in 2001, it just didn't fit and it wasn't as successful as her first two preceding albums or her album that came out after. while the Neptunes and Britney are great, they just didn't click and "I'm a slave for you" era was a lesser success.
Subject: Re: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: JacobThePlante on 11/27/21 at 3:16 pm
um... what? If you include the full decade, it was incredibly diverse musically. Within the same decade you have boy band teen pop, emo rock, country, R&B, electro dance pop, & crunk
Subject: Re: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: RLStern on 11/27/21 at 3:29 pm
um... what? If you include the full decade, it was incredibly diverse musically. Within the same decade you have boy band teen pop, emo rock, country, R&B, electro dance pop, & crunk
Throughout the decade genre's changed, that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about at the same time, hence using years such as 97-2000, specifically 2000 where every genre was booming at same time.
Subject: Re: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: JacobThePlante on 11/27/21 at 3:39 pm
I can agree that much of the decade was oversaturated with crunk/glam rap (peaking in 2004)
Subject: Re: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: batfan2005 on 11/27/21 at 4:31 pm
I can agree that much of the decade was oversaturated with crunk/glam rap (peaking in 2004)
Mainly the first half but it started to fade in late 2005, giving way to snap/ringtone rap.
Anyhow, I'll try to break down the gengre/subgenres in chronological order, as some might overlap each other:
2000-early 2001: Y2K era boy bands/teen pop (Backstreet Boys, NSYNC)
2000-early 2002: Latin pop (Santana, Enrique Iglesias)
2000-2003-ish: Nu Metal (Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit)
2000-2005: Glam rap (Nelly, 50 Cent)
2002-2004-ish: pop punk (Avril Lavigne, Ashlee Simpson)
2003-2005/6-ish: Crunk (Lil Jon)
2004-2007/8-ish: Emo (Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco)
2005-2007: Snap (Dem Franchise Boyz, Akon, Soulja Boy)
2005-2009: R&B/hip-hop/dance pop hybrid (Chris Brown, Omarion). Also autotune like T-Pain
2006-2007: Electropop (JT, Nelly Furtado, Timberland)
Late 2008-2009: EDM (Lady Gaga)
Subject: Re: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: RLStern on 11/28/21 at 10:23 am
Mainly the first half but it started to fade in late 2005, giving way to snap/ringtone rap.
Anyhow, I'll try to break down the gengre/subgenres in chronological order, as some might overlap each other:
2000-early 2001: Y2K era boy bands/teen pop (Backstreet Boys, NSYNC)
2000-early 2002: Latin pop (Santana, Enrique Iglesias)
2000-2003-ish: Nu Metal (Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit)
2000-2005: Glam rap (Nelly, 50 Cent)
2002-2004-ish: pop punk (Avril Lavigne, Ashlee Simpson)
2003-2005/6-ish: Crunk (Lil Jon)
2004-2007/8-ish: Emo (Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco)
2005-2007: Snap (Dem Franchise Boyz, Akon, Soulja Boy)
2005-2009: R&B/hip-hop/dance pop hybrid (Chris Brown, Omarion). Also autotune like T-Pain
2006-2007: Electropop (JT, Nelly Furtado, Timberland)
Late 2008-2009: EDM (Lady Gaga)
Great list but I would fix 2000-2002, as also hip hop, as well as Alt-Pop/Country, and R&B pop thrived, I would rework it in this way:
2000-Spring 2002 aka Y2K era:
-Teen/Kids Bubblegum Pop/Boy bands(Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, A-Teens, ATC, Aaron Carter, Samantha Mumba, O-Town, Dream etc) because remember they topped charts on TRL until Spring of 2002,
-Latin Pop(Santana, Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias, Marc Anthony, 98 degrees Una Noche, etc)
-Upbeat Numetal(Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock) later during era Emo Numetal such as Linkin Park started up.
-Hip Hop(Eminem, DMX, Dr. Dre, Jay-Z, Nelly, Puff Daddy, Lil Kim)
-R&B Pop/Urban Pop(Aaliyah, Destiny's Child, Sisqo, Joe, Pink, Mya, Toni Braxton)
-Alt Pop and/or Country aka stuff you hear while shopping at Target or Macy's back during this time(Faith Hill, Macy Gray, Dido, Nelly Furtado, LeAnn Rimes, The Corrs, )
-Alt Rock(3 Doors Down, Matchbox 20)
-Pop-Rock/Metal (Michelle Branch, Sum 41, U2, Bon Jovi, Saliva, Drowning Pool, Wheatus)
I'm sure I'm missing a bunch. 2000-early 2002, and specially 2000 was a year where every genre did well.
Subject: Re: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: JacobThePlante on 11/28/21 at 2:52 pm
I noticed a big difference between Y2K/core 2000's is that Y2K was cheery and bright, core 2000's was dark and gritty
Subject: Re: Too few musical genres dominated the 2000's
Written By: RLStern on 11/28/21 at 3:10 pm
I noticed a big difference between Y2K/core 2000's is that Y2K was cheery and bright, core 2000's was dark and gritty
2 reasons, 9/11 and Recession in March 2002.
You gotta remember this is an era where people had Cell phones and Beepers at the same time whereas pre Y2K cell phones were a luxury and core 2000's completely abandoned beepers.
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