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It’s not every time that a year ending in “9” kicks off an age, but I hold the firm view that 1999 was the first ever year of the 2000s. I know that not everyone on here is familiar with what the 21st century is. The Y2K era sandwiched between the 1990s and core 2000s was a little bit like the late 90s and part core 2000s in one. A unique era, if I must say so myself. 1999 saw the premieres of The Sopranos, Law and Order Special Victims Unit, WWE Smackdown, Spongebob Squarepants, and Family Guy. The Matrix (Keanu made it big time as an actor), Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace (first prequel film of the Star Wars series), American Pie (the most talked about teen film), Toy Story 2 (Toy Story was a little dated for the first time), and Austin Powers The Spy Who Shagged Me (the most quoted film of recent times) were all in theaters. The Latin explosion happened in that year. Who could forget Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Enrique Iglesias, and Ricky Martin? Lastly, the Pokèmon Trading Card Game outsold Furby, Tamagotchi, and Power Rangers for the first time. Jncos, FUBU, Enyce, butterfly clips, and chokers were everything to Millennials, some Xennials, and Gen Xers. It’s hard to ignore the 2000s influences in this year. What are your thoughts on 1999?

Culturally I see 1999 as the very start of 2000’s culture. I know some may jump down my throat, but honestly what started in late 1998-1999 progressed into the early 2000’s.

Culturally I see 1999 as the very start of 2000’s culture. I know some may jump down my throat, but honestly what started in late 1998-1999 progressed into the early 2000’s.


Exactly.

1969: Debut of The Brady Bunch (a 70s show)

1978: Debut of Different Strokes and Dallas (both 80s shows)

1990: Debut of Beverly Hills 90210 and Law and Order (both 90s shows)

1999: Debut of The Sopranos and Family Guy (both 2000s shows)

Exactly.

1969: Debut of The Brady Bunch (a 70s show)

1978: Debut of Different Strokes and Dallas (both 80s shows)

1990: Debut of Beverly Hills 90210 and Law and Order (both 90s shows)

1999: Debut of The Sopranos and Family Guy (both 2000s shows)


Yeah and even outside of TV shows I feel like music and pop culture was just changing. Everything and everyone was excited for the millennium by 1998-1999. Fashion was changing and the world was optimistic.

I disagree. 1999 was more '90s culturally than '00s.

The Y2K era was mostly before 9/11 and mostly before the Dot.com bubble burst.

I disagree. 1999 was more '90s culturally than '00s.

The Y2K era was mostly before 9/11 and mostly before the Dot.com bubble burst.


How was 1999 more ‘90s culturally? Please explain.

I disagree. 1999 was more '90s culturally than '00s.

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1999 was a special year where it wasn't the 90s or the 2000s like the year 2000.

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I know. It's already started ;D.

I disagree. 1999 was more '90s culturally than '00s.

The Y2K era was mostly before 9/11 and mostly before the Dot.com bubble burst.


Dot com bubble burst happened from 1997-2000 tho. I don’t think Britney Spears, Nsync, Eminem, teen pop, etc is culturally 90’s at all. In 1999 grunge was dead, gangsta rap was dying/dead for the most part (dr dre’s 2001 did well), southern hip hop was becoming more forefront and 90’s fashion was pretty dated by 1999-2000. It was all about sleek fashion, flair jeans instead of “mom jeans”, low rise pants (thanks to Mariah Carey and Britney Spears and millennium fashion was in.

Dot com bubble burst happened from 1997-2000 tho. I don’t think Britney Spears, Nsync, Eminem, teen pop, etc is culturally 90’s at all. In 1999 grunge was dead, gangsta rap was dying/dead for the most part (dr dre’s 2001 did well), southern hip hop was becoming more forefront and 90’s fashion was pretty dated by 1999-2000. It was all about sleek fashion, flair jeans instead of “mom jeans”, low rise pants (thanks to Mariah Carey and Britney Spears and millennium fashion was in.


Britney, *NSYNC, and Eminem are musicians that Millennials adore. Grunge and gangsta rap were gone by 1999.

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Who is they?

Dot com bubble burst happened from 1997-2000 tho. I don’t think Britney Spears, Nsync, Eminem, teen pop, etc is culturally 90’s at all. In 1999 grunge was dead, gangsta rap was dying/dead for the most part (dr dre’s 2001 did well), southern hip hop was becoming more forefront and 90’s fashion was pretty dated by 1999-2000. It was all about sleek fashion, flair jeans instead of “mom jeans”, low rise pants (thanks to Mariah Carey and Britney Spears and millennium fashion was in.

What are you talking about? The Dot.com bubble burst happened in 2001.

Do you know what burst means lol?

What are you talking about? The Dot.com bubble burst happened in 2001.

Do you know what burst means lol?


Yes due to progressive internet usage and the  abundant usage of money allocated towards  internet related companies after global wide spread internet in 1995. The dot com bubble started in 1995-1997 and bursted in April of 2000 through 2002. 9/11 also contributed towards the recession in 2002 which was quickly recovered. This had no effect on pop culture nor did it have an affect on the overall environment/atmosphere of the late 90’s- early 2000’s the way that the 2008 housing bubble did. It had little to no affect on your average everyday Joe either. The recession was mild and lasted 8 months. The 90’s were dead by late 1998-1999.

Yes due to progressive internet usage and the  abundant usage of money allocated towards  internet related companies after global wide spread internet in 1995. The dot com bubble started in 1995-1997 and bursted in April of 2000 through 2002. 9/11 also contributed towards the recession in 2002 which was quickly recovered. This had no effect on pop culture nor did it have an affect on the overall environment/atmosphere of the late 90’s- early 2000’s the way that the 2008 housing bubble did. It had little to no affect on your average everyday Joe either. The recession was mild and lasted 8 months. The 90’s were dead by late 1998-1999.

1999 had some EARLY 2000s elements (the early 2000s were not the culutral zenith of the '00s) but still overall was a '90s year. Heck, the PS2 the biggest video game console of the 2000s wasn't even released yet.


Watch at least some of this video:
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These commercials are from late 1999 and they don't look out of place from the rest of the late '90s (1997 & 1998). Looking at these commercials, I wouldn't think that these were from the 2000s at all. I would definitely think that these are '90s commercials (and they are obviously).

1999 was a bit dry as a year, but it was a very early 2000s year regardless. We were leaving 1999 as the 2000s went on, but 1999 was a year with the newest elements of the 90s in the mainstream and 2000s/2010s influences being introduced.

1999 was a bit dry as a year, but it was a very early 2000s year regardless. We were leaving 1999 as the 2000s went on, but 1999 was a year with the newest elements of the 90s in the mainstream and 2000s/2010s influences being introduced.

1999 is not a "very early 2000s year". That would be 2001 or 2002.

1999 is a late '90s/Y2K/Millennium year which is distinct from the early '00s.

1999 is not a "very early 2000s year". That would be 2001 or 2002.

1999 is a late '90s/Y2K/Millennium year which is distinct from the early '00s.


Wait a minute. So, you’re saying that 1999 was not 90s or 2000s while stating that it was a 90s year earlier?  ???

Wait a minute. So, you’re saying that 1999 was not 90s or 2000s while stating that it was a 90s year earlier?  ???

Did you not read what I said? 1999 is a late '90s/Y2K/Millennium year.

That's DISTINCT (separate) from the early '00s. 1999 still overall leaned 90s (and specifically late '90s) but there was some early '00s elements present (which is what happens to almost every last year of each decade).

1989 had some early '90s elements but still was overall more '80s than '90s.

1979 had some early '80s elements but was overall more '70s than '80s.

Same principle applies to 1999.

Did you not read what I said? 1999 is a late '90s/Y2K/Millennium year.

That's DISTINCT (separate) from the early '00s. 1999 still overall leaned 90s (and specifically late '90s) but there was some early '00s elements present (which is what happens to almost every last year of each decade).

1989 had some early '90s elements but still was overall more '80s than '90s.

1979 had some early '80s elements but was overall more '70s than '80s.

Same principle applies to 1999.


How was 1999 overall more ‘90s than ‘00s?

1999 had some EARLY 2000s elements (the early 2000s were not the culutral zenith of the '00s) but still overall was a '90s year. Heck, the PS2 the biggest video game console of the 2000s wasn't even released yet.


Watch at least some of this video:
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These commercials are from late 1999 and they don't look out of place from the rest of the late '90s (1997 & 1998). Looking at these commercials, I wouldn't think that these were from the 2000s at all. I would definitely think that these are '90s commercials (and they are obviously).


Consoles like the Dreamcast were already a thing in 1999-2000.  Consoles like the Gameboy advance and Ps2 were being manufactured in 1999. I mean Ps2 was released literally 3 months after 1999 ended...1999 was all about the millennium from the fashion, make up, movies, music videos, etc. When I watch movies like 10 Things I hate about you, She’s All That, You Drive Me Crazy, American Pie, etc. None of them scream 90’s at all, they look more interchangeable with a 2001 teen movie than a 1995 teen movie like Clueless. 1999 was more digitized than the rest of the 90’s which has a more analog look to it. Even the commercials you provided look super early 2000’s. They look like they could pass by in 2000-2003. They were filmed on tape and then digitized so the film quality sucks but the fashion doesn’t even look 90’s  compared to just 2 years prior.

Here’s a compilation of Owens College commercials from 1997 and they SCREAM 90’s. I mean you can tell we were living in the 90’s.

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1999 looks waayyy more 2000’s than 90’s

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Well, I'm just going to completely disagree with the both of you.

1999 was not "early '00s", there was some elements of the early 2000s (naturally) but it was still a '90s year.

Anyways, I don't want to have this long dragged out debate. So, I'll agree to disagree and that's it.

Well, I'm just going to completely disagree with the both of you.

1999 was not "early '00s", there was some elements of the early 2000s (naturally) but it was still a '90s year.

Anyways, I don't want to have this long dragged out debate. So, I'll agree to disagree and that's it.


You’re not giving us enough reasons to see 1999 as a 90s year.

You’re not giving us enough reasons to see 1999 as a 90s year.

I already have. Anyways, like I said, I'm not getting into it. This will be dragged out and both of you will still disagree (and I will still disagree with you guys) and so it won't make any sense.

I'm not going any further.

Well, I'm just going to completely disagree with the both of you.

1999 was not "early '00s", there was some elements of the early 2000s (naturally) but it was still a '90s year.

Anyways, I don't want to have this long dragged out debate. So, I'll agree to disagree and that's it.


It was definitely numerically a 90’s year but definitely not culturally 90’s. It was saturated in pure y2k culture which is aligned with the early 2000’s. Music and pop culture in 1999 was more interchangeable with music and pop culture in 2002 than 1996. Where was the flannels, high waisted jeans, scrunchies, dark lipstick, etc. in 1999 ? It was all about bright metallics, shiny lip gloss, bleach blonde hair, Britney Spears, Christina, Nsync, BSB, low rise and flair jeans, etc. There were some 90’s leftovers like cartoons, technology and means of communication like pagers, but 1999 has more in common with the early 2000’s than it does with 1994-1997 imo. It was no longer the dark cynical yet peachy laid back 90’s, it was the era of the happy go lucky millennium and cheesy teen pop culture. There is no way the Matrix is pure 90’s culture. The movie could have been made in 2003 and I wouldn’t have blinked an eye.

I already have. Anyways, like I said, I'm not getting into it. This will be dragged out and both of you will still disagree (and I will still disagree with you guys) and so it won't make any sense.

I'm not going any further.


Commercials and the release of PS2 is what you’re basing your answer on?! That’s not enough. Besides, you threw in your own personal bias. You’re going to have to do a little better than that to convince us that 1999 was a late 90s year.

1999 didn't lean towards either decade really, I feel like the transition between the 90s and 2000s was quite blurry with 1997 - 2001 being an era which bridged the 90s and 2000s together.

1999 did though, feel noticably different compared to 1998 but, I wouldn't go as far to group 1999 with 2002 and 2003.

1999 didn't lean towards either decade really, I feel like the transition between the 90s and 2000s was quite blurry with 1997 - 2001 being an era which bridged the 90s and 2000s together.

1999 did though, feel noticably different compared to 1998 but, I wouldn't go as far to group 1999 with 2002 and 2003.


It was a Clinton year. The bridge between the late 90s and the rest of the very early 2000s started in the earliest months of 1999 and ended before August.

Y'all do know that the teen pop explosion started in 1996/1997 right? Also, most regular people did not dress in the shiny stuff that celebrities did.

Here's how most regular people in 1999 looked like:

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These don't look that different from 1997/1998. Anyways, I've said this many times and I'll say it again: 1999 was a still a '90s year culturally and socially but it had SOME very early '00s elements (especially pertaining to pop culture).