Obviously 2004.

Emo pop was popular in both years while the trend was close to dead in 2010. Crunk was also popular in both years. Same with post-grunge.

I happen to agree

2004, for obvious reasons. *cough* Mainstream rock music *cough*

This was a tough one since it was in the era from 2005 to 2008, so it was like neither. If I had to choose it would be slightly closer to 2004.

2010 for sure. Music in 2004 sounds nothing like music in 2007 minus some emo which started taking a down turn in 2007-2008

2010 for sure. Music in 2004 sounds nothing like music in 2007 minus some emo which started taking a down turn in 2007-2008

How is it more like 2010? Electropop was not popular in 2007. There were a lot of rock songs in 2007. Justin Bieber and Drake weren’t popular. Also, Snap in 2007 was basically minimalist Crunk, which has more in common with the sound of 2004.

How is it more like 2010? Electropop was not popular in 2007. There were a lot of rock songs in 2007. Justin Bieber and Drake weren’t popular. Also, Snap in 2007 was basically minimalist Crunk, which has more in common with the sound of 2004.


Umm in 2007 you had Britney Spears release Break the ice, Gimme more and Piece of me which influenced electropop in a huge way. Not to mention 2006-2007 were the years synth pop dominated pop charts which was literally the precursor to electro pop. In 2004 Britney Spears was singing Toxic and Justin Timberlake had just released his Justified album a year and a half prior to that year. Britney’s 2007 album influenced Gaga’s sound in Just Dance back in 2008. 2007 was the year snap music began to die rather than flourish, it was more of a 2006 thing. Sure you had soulja boy, T-pain and Mims but for the most part hip hop was going into a different route https://www.mylistpad.com/music-lists/39-hip-hop/53-top-100-hip-hop-rnb-songs-of-2007/

In 2004 snap music wasn’t  even a thing and r&B still had more in common with the late 90’s rather 2007. There is no way Rihanna’s “Umbrella” sounds closer to 2004 than it does to 2010. Heck her 2005 work doesn’t even sound like anything that would be released in 2007.

As for emo I will say 2004 has more in common with 2007 in that field however in 2004 emo/pop punk was becoming mainstream where as in 2007 it was declining in popularity and becoming a sub genre rather than a pop genre

Umm in 2007 you had Britney Spears release Break the ice, Gimme more and Piece of me which influenced electropop in a huge way. Mot to mention 2006-2007 were the years synth pop dominated pop charts which were the precursors to electro pop. In 2004 Britney Spears was singing Toxic and Justin Timberlake had just released his Justified album and year and a half prior to that year. Britney’s 2007 album influenced Gaga’s sound in Just Dance back in 2008. 2007 was the year snap music began to die rather than flourished, it was more of a 2006 thing. Sure you had soulja boy, T-pain and Mims but for the most part hip hop was going into a different route https://www.mylistpad.com/music-lists/39-hip-hop/53-top-100-hip-hop-rnb-songs-of-2007/

In 2004 snap music wasn’t  even a thing and r&B still had more in common with the late 90’s rather 2007.

As for emo I will say 2004 has more in common with 2007 in that field however in 2004 emo/pop punk was becoming mainstream where as in 2007 it was declining in popularity and becoming a sub genre rather than a pop genre

That Britney Spears album released LATE into the year and didn’t influence 2007 music as a whole. I will say that Future Sex/Love Sounds by JT was an influential record but What Goes Around Comes Around was basically Cry Me a River part 2.

Emo was still huge in 2007 with Paramore, Fall Out Boy, Boys Like Girls. Emo was as good as dead in 2010 when bands like My Chemical Romance changes their style to Blues Rock. Emo was getting big in 2004 with My Chemical Romance. 2007 also has a lot of post grunge hits just like 2004.

I would say 2008 was when Snap began to die off rather than 2007. Some R&B songs in 2007 sound more like the late 90s/early 2000s than even the early 2010s such as Sweetest Girl, Hate That I Love You, and Don’t Matter.

That Britney Spears album released LATE into the year and didn’t influence 2007 music as a whole. I will say that Future Sex/Love Sounds by JT was an influential record but What Goes Around Comes Around was basically Cry Me a River part 2.

Emo was still huge in 2007 with Paramore, Fall Out Boy, Boys Like Girls. Emo was as good as dead in 2010 when bands like My Chemical Romance changes their style to Blues Rock. Emo was getting big in 2004 with My Chemical Romance. 2007 also has a lot of post grunge hits just like 2004.

I would say 2008 was when Snap began to die off rather than 2007. Some R&B songs in 2007 sound more like the late 90s/early 2000s than even the early 2010s such as Sweetest Girl, Hate That I Love You, and Don’t Matter.


Her album released late into the year her SINGLES released anywhere from March-August of 2007. How do you not remember that ? Her iconic  Break the Ice video was a cartoon that was played all over Mtv.. Gimme more was played all throughout the entire year.

Emo was not huge nor was it mainstream in 2007 and the charts are there to back me up on that. It became a subculture in 2007 and slowly started to die off which gave way for the scene kid movement. Paramore was big in 2007-2009 I will give you that. But Emo as a whole was not big in 2007-2008 the way it was flourishing in 2004-2006. Pop punk was and still is a genre that is around today but it’s not apart of pop culture anymore. Avril Lavigne had Girlfriend in 2007 and that did great but that was so much more pop-ish than emo...

I’m also confused as to what r&b you were listening to in 2007 that sounds like the late 90’s and early 2000’s because that’s a very bold  statement. R&b sounded nothing like 1997-2003/2004 in 2007. At best maybe 2005 but that’s by a long shot. The mid 2000’s saw a revival of gogo funk in r&b during the mid 2000’s that was dead by 2006 or so. None of those songs you provided me with sound nothing like late 90’s early 2000’s r&b, where are the mixed up digital sounding syths ?, where is the Spanish guitars ?, where is the triangle sounding instruments that are randomly interpolated in every r&b song during the late 90’s and early 2000’s ? I’ll give you Akons “Don’t matter” reminds me a little of early 2000’s r&b but that’s about it.

Her album released late into the year her SINGLES released anywhere from March-August of 2007. How do you not remember that ? Her iconic  Break the Ice video was a cartoon that was played all over Mtv.. Gimme more was played all throughout the entire year.

Emo was not huge nor was it mainstream in 2007 and the charts are there to back me up on that. It became a subculture in 2007 and slowly started to die off which gave way for the scene kid movement. Paramore was big in 2007-2009 I will give you that. But Emo as a whole was not big in 2007-2008 the way it was flourishing in 2004-2006. Pop punk was and still is a genre that is around today but it’s not apart of pop culture anymore. Avril Lavigne had Girlfriend in 2007 and that did great but that was so much more pop-ish than emo...

I’m also confused as to what r&b you were listening to in 2007 that sounds like the late 90’s and early 2000’s because that’s a very bold  statement. R&b sounded nothing like 1997-2003/2004 in 2007. At best maybe 2005 but that’s by a long shot. The mid 2000’s saw a revival of gogo funk in r&b during the mid 2000’s that was dead by 2006 or so. None of those songs you provided me with sound nothing like late 90’s early 2000’s r&b, where are the mixed up digital sounding syths ?, where is the Spanish guitars ?, where is the triangle sounding instruments that are randomly interpolated in every r&b song during the late 90’s and early 2000’s ? I’ll give you Akons “Don’t matter” reminds me a little of early 2000’s r&b but that’s about it.

First of all, Britney Spears released Gimme More at the very end of August of 2007, which technically is released late into 2007. It did reach #3 but the rest of the songs in late 2007 weren't songs like that. You got  R&B ballads such as Apologize, Bed, Sweetest Girl, and No One. There were Southern Hip Hop songs such as Low, Cyclone, Crank That, Shawty, and Kiss Kiss that would most likely be released in 2004 than 2010. You also got a lot of rock songs such as Paralyzer, Who Knew, and Rockstar; these type of rock songs were no longer popular in 2010.. I have you an example of a song called Sweetest Girl as well. It has that guitar sound that is reminiscent of a lot of songs from the early 2000s and has a shuffle beat. Gimme More and anything from that Kanye West album Graduation were exceptions.

NONE of these examples were popular in 2010, they were as good as dead in the charts. Chris Brown transitioned to electropop in 2010 with Yeah 3x, Rihanna was making Eurodance tracks like Only Girl. Drake, Justin Bieber, Jason Derulo, Kesha, and Bruno Mars were becoming established stars in the music scene. Katy Perry transioned from Kelly Clarkson-esque pop rock to her sugary electropop image in 2010. There is no way songs like Glamorous, Umbrella, Crank That, Don't Matter, Sweet Escape, What Goes Around, This Ain't a Scene, and all the other songs I listed above can be more popular in 2010 than 2004.

First of all, Britney Spears released Gimme More at the very end of August of 2007, which technically is released late into 2007. It did reach #3 but the rest of the songs in late 2007 weren't songs like that. You got  R&B ballads such as Apologize, Bed, Sweetest Girl, and No One. There were Southern Hip Hop songs such as Low, Cyclone, Crank That, Shawty, and Kiss Kiss that would most likely be released in 2004 than 2010. You also got a lot of rock songs such as Paralyzer, Who Knew, and Rockstar; these type of rock songs were no longer popular in 2010.. I have you an example of a song called Sweetest Girl as well. It has that guitar sound that is reminiscent of a lot of songs from the early 2000s and has a shuffle beat. Gimme More and anything from that Kanye West album Graduation were exceptions.

NONE of these examples were popular in 2010, they were as good as dead in the charts. Chris Brown transitioned to electropop in 2010 with Yeah 3x, Rihanna was making Eurodance tracks like Only Girl. Drake, Justin Bieber, Jason Derulo, Kesha, and Bruno Mars were becoming established stars in the music scene. Katy Perry transioned from Kelly Clarkson-esque pop rock to her sugary electropop image in 2010. There is no way songs like Glamorous, Umbrella, Crank That, Don't Matter, Sweet Escape, What Goes Around, This Ain't a Scene, and all the other songs I listed above can be more popular in 2010 than 2004.


Soulja Boy was not southern rap, he is from chicago....

Cyclone sounds like it could have been released in 2010.

Britney’s “piece of me” (my bad) was played all throughout 2007 and was what influenced Gaga in 2008. August is not late year it’s mid year so technically Gimme more was released in mid 2007 and recorded the year prior in 2006...JT’s 2006 album sounds more closer to 2010 than his previous work minus his “what goes around comes around” which was produced by timbaland in which he said himself was practically a copy cat of cry me a river due to how big it was in 2002-2003. Synth pop was definitely taking over in 2007-2008 Which wasn’t a thing in 2004. With out synth pop there wouldn’t have been an electro pop era

None of the hip hop examples you gave me proved much of anything, there were southern rappers in 2007 just like in 2010, there was not much crunking going on in 2007 either. Beats became more digital sounding and had an edm vibe to it in 2007 which gave way for the music that was released in 2008-2009.

The R&B songs you listed sound absolutely NOTHING like late 90’s early 2000’s r&b. Idk where you are going with that one but you cannot sit here and compare jagged edges “Let’s get married” , Whitney Huston’s “Heartbreak hotel” or 112’s “Anywhere” to Apologize, Bed and No one. Apologize sounds electropop within itself.

Rihanna’s “Good girl gone bad” is when she made a deal with Jay-Z, changed her image from the sweet girl next door to bad gal ri ri. That was literally like the start of a new era for her. In 2010 her loud album def had more electro pop sounding hits I will give you that, although 2007 was still the precursor.

You keep comparing your songs to electro pop while electro pop was popular in 2010 so were other genres of music which sound more related to 2007. I def don’t think music of 2007 sounds anything like 2004 tho.

I will say there were a lot of artists that emerged out of the 2008-2010 period that weren’t around in 2007 such as Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Justin  Beiber, Lady Gaga and Kesha.

Soulja Boy was not southern rap, he is from chicago....

Cyclone sounds like it could have been released in 2010.

Britney’s “piece of me” (my bad) was played all throughout 2007 and was what influenced Gaga in 2008. August is not late year it’s mid year so technically Gimme more was released in mid 2007 and recorded the year prior in 2006...

None of the hip hop examples you gave me proved much of anything, there were southern rappers in 2007 just like in 2010, there was not much crunking going on in 2007 either. Beats became more digital sounding and had an edm vibe to it in 2007 which gave way for the music that was released in 2008-2009.

The R&B songs you listed sound absolutely NOTHING like late 90’s early 2000’s r&b. Idk where you are going with that one but you cannot sit here and compare jagged edges “Let’s get married” , Whitney Huston’s “Heartbreak hotel” or 112’s “Anywhere” to Apologize, Bed and No one. Apologize sounds electropop within itself.

Rihanna’s “Good girl gone bad” is when she made a deal with Jay-Z, changed her image from the sweet girl next door to bad gal ri ri. That was literally like the start of a new era for her. In 2010 her loud album def had more electro pop sounding hits I will give you that, although 2007 was still the precursor.

You keep comparing your songs to electro pop while electro pop was popular in 2010 so were other genres of music which sound more related to 2007. I def don’t think music of 2007 sounds anything like 2004 tho.

How is Cyclone more like 2010 than 2004? Yeah by Usher has the same synth sound as Cyclone. It was produced by Lil Jon.

Maybe Soulja Boy is not Southern but Crank Dat is a Snap song, which technically comes from the South.

Did I say No One and Apologize sounded like late 90s early 2000s r&b ballads. NO, I did not. I just said they were simply R&B ballads. I'm only pointing it out to Sweetest Girl but the rest of the R&B songs I listed are standard mid-late 2000s. Apologize is definitely not electropop. Where is the aggressive synths? Where are the trance pads? Where is the fast pacing? It's just a ballad produced by Timbaland.

Oh come on. 2007 has a lot of songs that have more in common with 2004. Like a Boy sounds exactly like Oh in her Goodies album in 2004.

How is Cyclone more like 2010 than 2004? Yeah by Usher has the same synth sound as Cyclone. It was produced by Lil Jon.

Maybe Soulja Boy is not Southern but Crank Dat is a Snap song, which technically comes from the South.

Did I say No One and Apologize sounded like late 90s early 2000s r&b ballads. NO, I did not. I just said they were simply R&B ballads. I'm only pointing it out to Sweetest Girl but the rest of the R&B songs I listed are standard mid-late 2000s. Apologize is definitely not electropop. Where is the aggressive synths? Where are the trance pads? Where is the fast pacing? It's just a ballad produced by Timbaland.

Oh come on. 2007 has a lot of songs that have more in common with 2004. Like a Boy sounds exactly like Oh in her Goodies album in 2004.


Cyclone sounds very similar to Bottoms up by Trey Songz and has very similar synths. If Baby Bash was on Trey Songz’s Passion, pain and pleasure album with that song, I wouldn’t even blink an eye. Lil John produced many songs throughout the late 2000’s and early 10’s, what exactly is your point ?

Snap was dying out in 2007, his music was dance music in general and his first album depicted hits from each genre of hip hop dance such as “Donk” which was a twerk song.

Given that your last response to me concluded how 2007 r&b had similarities to the late 90’s and early 2000’s and then followed up by the examples above I concluded that you were stating those r&b’s songs as an example to solidify your original argument. In that case bringing up those r&b songs hold no context as to what we are talking about..

Apologize is a synth pop song that was originally a song by one republic in 1999... It was released in September-October of 2007 and uses certain vocal instruments that are similar to certain electro pop songs. I will admit it is not electropop but sounds very close to it. I wouldn’t bat an eye if it was released in 2010, although it would sound out of place in 2004.

Cyclone sounds very similar to Bottoms up by Trey Songz and has very similar synths. If Baby Bash was on Trey Songz’s Passion, pain and pleasure album with that song, I wouldn’t even blink an eye. Lil John produced many songs throughout the late 2000’s and early 10’s, what exactly is your point ?

Snap was dying out in 2007, his music was dance music in general and his first album depicted hits from each genre of hip hop dance such as “Donk” which was a twerk song.

Given that your last response to me concluded how 2007 r&b had similarities to the late 90’s and early 2000’s and then followed up by the examples above I concluded that you were stating those r&b’s songs as an example to solidify your original argument. In that case bringing up those r&b songs hold no context as to what we are talking about..

Apologize is a synth pop song that was originally a song by one republic in 1999... It was released in September-October of 2007 and uses certain vocal instruments that are similar to certain electro pop songs. I will admit it is not electropop but sounds very close to it. I wouldn’t bat an eye if it was released in 2010, although it would sound out of place in 2004.


Bottoms Up has synth-horns, which is common for rap songs in 2009-2010. Cyclone has the same synths as Goodies, Yeah, Freek a Leek. I brought up Lil Jon because he was the pioneer of Crunk rap in the 2000s. He basically popularized the genre that would also influence Snap music in 2006-2008. Plus, Lil Jon produced this in 2009, which was very different from what he produced in the mid 2000s:
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Snap dying in 2007? What about This Is Why I'm Hot, Pop Lock, and Drop It, A Bay Bay, Walk It Out, Throw Some D's, We Fly High, Buy U a Drank? Although, The T-Pain song I mentioned was Sanp-inspired but still.

I'm just gonna conclude that the R&B of 2007 is closer to 2004 since 2010 has little to no R&B hits.

Bottoms Up has synth-horns, which is common for rap songs in 2009-2010. Cyclone has the same synths as Goodies, Yeah, Freek a Leek. I brought up Lil Jon because he was the pioneer of Crunk rap in the 2000s. He basically popularized the genre that would also influence Snap music in 2006-2008. Plus, Lil Jon produced this in 2009, which was very different from what he produced in the mid 2000s:
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Snap dying in 2007? What about This Is Why I'm Hot, Pop Lock, and Drop It, A Bay Bay, Walk It Out, Throw Some D's, We Fly High, Buy U a Drank? Although, The T-Pain song I mentioned was Sanp-inspired but still.

I'm just gonna conclude that the R&B of 2007 is closer to 2004 since 2010 has little to no R&B hits.


Synth horns were common in rap songs through out the 2000’s and 2010’d in general. I’m paying more attention to the style of the song and the digitized sounds that crosses over the beat in which sounds interchangeable with late 2000’s-early 2010’s music.

Also did you not read my first reply where I specifically said certain snap songs released by mims, t pain and soulja boy were still big during the early part of 2007 ? We fly high is definitely not a snap song, I don’t know where you got that from lmao. Throw some D’s, pop lock and drop it (which is not snap) and walk it out came out summer of 2006 not 2007.... 2010 had r&b but it wasn’t a dominant genre nor was it a dominant genre in 2007.

Cyclone produced by lil john sounds nothing like what he produced in 2004-2006 either. It has similar synths to snap ya fingerz although the style of rap is not crunk nor is it snap.  Still not getting the references you are making...

Anyways, here are links to each year end for 2004, 2007, and 2010.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2004

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2007

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2010

This will give a more clearer distinction between those years.

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Well, it's pretty easy to tell that 2010 is the odd one out here. By then, electropop had completely supplanted southern hip hop, urban pop and R&B jams which all were big in 2004 and 2007. Also rock music still had pretty decent presence in the two former years, while its decline was already apparent in the latter one.

It's pretty close. Electropop was starting to emerge in 2007 but there was still a lot of music that wouldn't sound out of place in 2004 either.
2007 was the first year of smartphones, once the iPhone came out I knew something was going to change

Definitely 2004. 2004 and 2007 were both core 2000's years, whereas 2010 was strictly an early 2010's year.

It's not similar to either 2004 or 2010. This is a tough one because even though '08 is when everything changed '06 was still a significant shift as well. So it's not like either one honestly. But I will have to agree with you and say 2004 if I had to choose.