I asked because 2008 is often seen as the first year of electropop, but also the last “2000s year”. I personally felt like the music of 2008 was still very 2000’s, and it wasn’t until 2009 when electropop was starting to get big IMO.

I feel like 2008 has more songs that make the year closer to 2005 but there are some songs from that year that make them closer to the sound of 2011 than 2005.

Songs that sound closer to 2005:
Sexy Can I
Lollipop
American Boy
Touch My Body
If I Were a Boy
Can't Believe It
Low
Paralyzer
No Air
With You
Pocketful Of Sunshine
Shake It
7 Things
I Kissed a Girl
So What
Whatever You Like
Hot N Cold
Paper Planes
Bleeding Love
Take a Bow
Don't Stop The Music
I.N.D.E.P.E.N.D.E.N.T
Love Song
4 Minutes
Miss Independent

Songs that sound closer to 2011:
Womanizer
Disturbia
Forever
I'm Yours
Live Your Life
Viva La Vida

Overall closer to 2005. It still had some emo rock like "Shake It" by Metro Station, which does not sound very different from "Sugar, We're Going Down". Mariah Carey's "Touch My Body" sounds like it could have been on her Emancipation Of Mimi album. "Low" by Flo-Rida is still part of that ringtone rap era. Lady Gaga and Katey Perry may have released their albums that year which first introduced the 2010's sound, but most of the popular music was pretty much still mid to late 00's hip-hop and R&B with Chris Brown, Rihanna, etc.

2008, the peak of ringtone rap *shudders* It was very 2000s.

Overall closer to 2005. It still had some emo rock like "Shake It" by Metro Station, which does not sound very different from "Sugar, We're Going Down". Mariah Carey's "Touch My Body" sounds like it could have been on her Emancipation Of Mimi album. "Low" by Flo-Rida is still part of that ringtone rap era. Lady Gaga and Katey Perry may have released their albums that year which first introduced the 2010's sound, but most of the popular music was pretty much still mid to late 00's hip-hop and R&B with Chris Brown, Rihanna, etc.


Katy Perry's first album was on the pop-rock side of things too (yeah, I've listened to it, it's a bop). She didn't go electropop until 2010.

Katy Perry's first album was on the pop-rock side of things too (yeah, I've listened to it, it's a bop). She didn't go electropop until 2010.


True. I just mentioned her because she made her debut in 2008, and continued to stay popular and relevant well into the 2010's.

Definitely a mix between 2005 and 2011. Songs in 2008 sound so distinct from the mid 2000’s, they sound more like early 10’s music to me. Synth/electro pop was popular amongst Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake which was not a thing in 2005. Emo was definitely dying out unless you listened to paramore or all time low which became alt rock rather than pop rock at the time...

I feel like 2008 has more songs that make the year closer to 2005 but there are some songs from that year that make them closer to the sound of 2011 than 2005.

Songs that sound closer to 2005:
Sexy Can I
Lollipop
American Boy
Touch My Body
If I Were a Boy
Can't Believe It
Low
Paralyzer
No Air
So What
With You
Pocketful Of Sunshine
Shake It
7 Things
I Kissed a Girl
So What
Whatever You Like
Hot N Cold
Paper Planes
Bleeding Love
Take a Bow
Don't Stop The Music
I.N.D.E.P.E.N.D.E.N.T
Love Song
4 Minutes
Miss Independent

Songs that sound closer to 2011:
Womanizer
Disturbia
Forever
I'm Yours
Live Your Life
Viva La Vida


I feel like a lot of those songs sound more like they could have been made in 2011. For an example Beyonce’s “If I were a boy” sounds like it could have been on her 2011 “4” album along with songs like “Best thing I never had”. P!nk’s so what sounds similar to her 2011 single “Raise your glass”. “American Boy” by Estelle and Kanye remind me of the music Elle Varner released in 2012. Lil Wayne’s “Amilli” sounds like his 2011 “6 foot 7 foot”.

2005, because as I'm looking at the Billboard Year-End Top 100 List of 2008, there were some rock songs that were included on it, like "Say" by John Mayer, "Addicted" by Saving Abel, and "Feels Like Tonight" by Daughtry. By 2011, mainstream rock music mostly died out.

I feel like a lot of those songs sound more like they could have been made in 2011. For an example Beyonce’s “If I were a boy” sounds like it could have been on her 2011 “4” album along with songs like “Best thing I never had”. P!nk’s so what sounds similar to her 2011 single “Raise your glass”. “American Boy” by Estelle and Kanye remind me of the music Elle Varner released in 2012. Lil Wayne’s “Amilli” sounds like his 2011 “6 foot 7 foot”.

Lollipop and Whatever You Like both contain snap/ringtone rap elements. So What has a heavier guitar riff than Raise Your Glass. If I Were a Boy would sound more in place with her 2006 B-Day album instead of 4.

Both Lollipop and Whatever You Like both contain snap/ringtone rap elements. So What has a heavier guitar riff than Raise Your Glass. If I Were a Boy would sound more in place with her 2006 B-Day album instead of 4.

I would have to agree with you as well. "Let It Rock" by Kevin Rudolf and Lil Wayne also had a pretty heavy guitar riff.

Lollipop and Whatever You Like both contain snap/ringtone rap elements. So What has a heavier guitar riff than Raise Your Glass. If I Were a Boy would sound more in place with her 2006 B-Day album instead of 4.


Lollipop has no snap influences what so ever. It has an electro pop influence tho. Snap music is dance music. Lollipop is not a dance song. Ringtone rap is equivalent to crunk music and lollipop has no crunk sounding influence what so ever. If I were a boy sounds nothing like ring the alarm, kitty kat, freak em dress or get me bodied on her bday album. Nor does it sound like her Check on it song in 2006. Raise your glass has a heavier guitar riff sure but the sound and genre is equivalent. Whatever you like is not ringtone rap in the slightest. It’s a form of electro pop, rap and hip hop fused together.

Definitely a mix between 2005 and 2011. Songs in 2008 sound so distinct from the mid 2000’s, they sound more like early 10’s music to me. Synth/electro pop was popular amongst Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake which was not a thing in 2005. Emo was definitely dying out unless you listened to paramore or all time low which became alt rock rather than pop rock at the time...

I remember emo still being big in 2008 and even 2009 to a lesser extent.

I remember emo still being big in 2008 and even 2009 to a lesser extent.


Definitely. However scene was more popular than emo in 2008-2009. Emo was not popular culture anymore by then. Pop punk was pretty dead in 2008-2009 compared to 2005-2006. It became a sub genre hence the  scene culture that rose in popularity during the late 2000’s early 2010’s. I remember the Academy is..., panic at the disco, All time low, paramore, etc. were making music in 2008 as they are now. But it was not mainstream pop culture as it is not now despite some of those artists still making music.

Lollipop has no snap influences what so ever. It has an electro pop influence tho. Snap music is dance music. Lollipop is not a dance song. Ringtone rap is equivalent to crunk music and lollipop has no crunk sounding influence what so ever. If I were a boy sounds nothing like ring the alarm, kitty kat, freak em dress or get me bodied on her bday album. Nor does it sound like her Check on it song in 2006. Raise your glass has a heavier guitar riff sure but the sound and genre is equivalent. Whatever you like is not ringtone rap in the slightest. It’s a form of electro pop, rap and hip hop fused together.

It’s the same logic as Yeah by Usher being an “electropop” song just because it has electronic synths. Whatever You Like and Lollipop almost has the same beat as “Low”, which has a minimal crunk beat. Even Whatever You’ Like almost sounds like his 2006 hit What You Know About That. So What is more in tune with Pinks 2006 album “I’m Not Dead”. Raise Your Glass sounds more similar to her 2012 Blow Me One Last Kiss. Katy Perry’s 2008 material is in pop rock territory in the same lane as Kelly Clarkson and Avril Lavigne. If I Were a Boy is a typical R&B ballad of its time with a percussion that sounds so un-2010s. Best Thing I Never Had features a gated drum in the chorus that was common in the 2010s. Don’t Stop The Music is not an electropop song because it has hip hop influence in the production. Plus, it has more in common with SOS than Only Girl.

It’s the same logic as Yeah by Usher being an “electropop” song just because it has electronic synths. Whatever You Like and Lollipop almost has the same beat as “Low”, which has a minimal crunk beat. Even Whatever You’ Like almost sounds like his 2006 hit What You Know About That. So What is more in tune with Pinks 2006 album “I’m Not Dead”. Raise Your Glass sounds more similar to her 2012 Blow Me One Last Kiss. Katy Perry’s 2008 material is in pop rock territory in the same lane as Kelly Clarkson and Avril Lavigne. If I Were a Boy is a typical R&B ballad of its time with a percussion that sounds so un-2010s. Best Thing I Never Had features a gated drum in the chorus that was common in the 2010s. Don’t Stop The Music is not an electropop song because it has hip hop influence in the production. Plus, it has more in common with SOS than Only Girl.


“Yeah” has no electro pop influence at all. It has crunk influences and the beat was a sample of peety pablo’s 2004 freek a leek which was a crunk song. Peety pablo’s beats of 2004 include songs like “goodies” and “freek a leek”. Whatever you like and lollipop have absolutely no crunk or snap influences at all and sound nothing like “low” by flow rida. There’s similar digital sounding  influences but that doesn’t mean the just because certain digital instruments were used in all songs that they are crunk/snap. Lil wayne’s carter II is more reminiscent of crunk not his 3rd album. Florida’s low is not crunk at all.  Katy Perry’s first album was definitely not pop rock. It was pop and had some pop rock influences but the same rule could be applied to her teenage dream album.

How old are you ? I was in middle school-high school when all of these songs came out. Your paying attention to minimal similarities that aren’t really noticeable and grouping these songs in a genre in which they have nothing to do with. P!nks raise your glass sounds like so what and even sounds like “who knew” on her 2006 album. I wouldn’t bat an eye if who knew was on her funhouse album. Also If I were a boy sounds like it could have been on Beyoncés number 4 album for sure. Single ladies sounds like it could have been made in 2011. Don’t stop the music sounds more like Rihanna’s “good girls gone bad” album definitely correlates more with her 2010 + work as that was the era she changed her sound and image. You said Don’t stop the music is not electropop because it contains hip hop elements ? What influences are hip hop in that song bc I don’t hear them ? This also contradicts your first statement about lolipop and whatever you like tho. Hip hop in 2008-2009 was influenced by electropop btw.

“Yeah” has no electro pop influence at all. It has crunk influences and the beat was a sample of peety pablo’s 2004 freek a leek which was a crunk song. Peety pablo’s beats of 2004 include songs like “goodies” and “freek a leek”. Whatever you like and lollipop have absolutely no crunk or snap influences at all and sound nothing like “low” by flow rida. There’s similar digital sounding  influences. Katy Perry’s first album was definitely not pop rock. It was pop and had some pop rock influences but the same rule could be applied to her teenage dream album.

How old are you ? I was in middle school when all of these songs came out. Your paying attention to minimal similarities that aren’t really noticeable and grouping these songs in a genre in which they have nothing to do with. P!nks raise your glass sounds like so what and even sounds like “who knew” on her 2006 album. I wouldn’t bat an eye if who knew was on her funhouse album. Also If I were a boy sounds like it could have been on Beyoncés number 4 album for sure. Single ladies sounds like it could have been made in 2011 as well.

I turned 10 in 2008 but listened to many popular songs at the time thanks to my older brother who was born in 1994. Like I said, I’m using the Yeah as an ”electropop” song example just to prove that a song with electronic beats DOESN’T make it an electropop song. Crunk uses electronic beats. Both Lollipop and Whatever You Like have heavy urban influences to be even considered electropop. Teenage Dream has a more “dreamier” vibe while I Kissed a Girl has a more rock edge to it. Raise Your Glass just sounds so soft and less rock compared to her 2000s discography. Only Girl has that eurodance sound that has no hip hop elements whatsoever. Good Girl Gone Bad was produced MOSTLY by hip hop producers, even the Stargate productions sounds more urban than pop. Plus, those whistly synths that Low has, is an element of crunk music (Goodies, 1,2 Step, Snap Yo Fingers, etc).

Katy Perry’s first album was definitely not pop rock. It was pop and had some pop rock influences but the same rule could be applied to her teenage dream album.


Huh? What? If it's not pop rock then what is it?  ???

I seriously thought she was going to be a punk rocker when I first heard "I Kissed A Girl".  ;D The rest of her album sounds not too unlike that.

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Although now that I think about it, there are some pop rock jams on Teenage Dream too like Circle The Drain and Hummingbird Heartbeat, but none of these ended up being singles unfortunately.

I turned 10 in 2008 but listened to many popular songs at the time thanks to my older brother who was born in 1994. Like I said, I’m using the Yeah as an ”electropop” song example just to prove that a song with electronic beats DOESN’T make it an electropop song. Crunk uses electronic beats. Both Lollipop and Whatever You Like have heavy urban influences to be even considered electropop. Teenage Dream has a more “dreamier” vibe while I Kissed a Girl has a more rock edge to it. Raise Your Glass just sounds so soft and less rock compared to her 2000s discography. Only Girl has that eurodance sound that has no hip hop elements whatsoever. Good Girl Gone Bad was produced MOSTLY by hip hop producers, even the Stargate productions sounds more urban than pop. Plus, those whistly synths that Low has, is an element of crunk music (Goodies, 1,2 Step, Snap Yo Fingers, etc).


Exactly my point just because lollipop has similar sounds as low doesn't make it snap or crunk.

I agree Katey’s first album is more pop rock and has more of a 2005 vibe. For some reason I kept thinking of her second album teenage dream. That’s definitely more of a 2010’s album.

Just bc an album was produced by hip hop artists doesnt mean the song is hip hop. Missy Elliott wrote most of Aaliyah’s music and collaborated on writing some of Mariah Carey’s songs, doesn’t make the over all genre hip hop. Timbaland produced most of Nelly furtado’s  loose album but that doesn’t make it hip hop.

Low definitely is not crunk. It’s can be a product of southern hip hop but not crunk. Crunk is art, music and dance that requires a certain form of drum/beat that Low does not have.

Huh? What? If it's not pop rock then what is it?  ???

I seriously thought she was going to be a punk rocker when I first heard "I Kissed A Girl".  ;D The rest of her album sounds not too unlike that.

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Although now that I think about it, there are some pop rock jams on Teenage Dream too like Circle The Drain and Hummingbird Heartbeat, but none of these ended up being singles unfortunately.


I meant her second album teenage dream. Her first album is more pop rock and pop fused.

Lollipop and Whatever You Like both contain snap/ringtone rap elements. So What has a heavier guitar riff than Raise Your Glass. If I Were a Boy would sound more in place with her 2006 B-Day album instead of 4.

I highly highly disagree with that. BDay is far too  urban for that song to fit in. That album has go-go sounds, funk, soul, jazzy, hip-hop beats. Lots of it is inspired by 70s soul/R&B of course with a few pop songs and influences here and there .4 is more on the non-urban side of things and has lots of indie on it and includes some soft rock. If I Were A Boy would fit on that album better.

Exactly my point just because lollipop has similar sounds as low doesn't make it snap or crunk.

I agree Katey’s first album is more pop rock and has more of a 2005 vibe. For some reason I kept thinking of her second album teenage dream. That’s definitely more of a 2010’s album.

Just bc an album was produced by hip hop artists doesnt mean the song is hip hop. Missy Elliott wrote most of Aaliyah’s music and collaborated on writing some of Mariah Carey’s songs, doesn’t make the over all genre hip hop. Timbaland produced most of Nelly furtado’s  loose album but that doesn’t make it hip hop.

Low definitely is not crunk. It’s can be a product of southern hip hop but not crunk. Crunk is art, music and dance that requires a certain form of drum/beat that Low does not have.

I can agree that Low is a southern hip hop song. It still sounds more 2005 than 2011 though. Idk both Lollipop and WYL have beepy synths that are common on snap songs like Walk It Out and This Is Why Im Hot. Both 2008 songs are not snap songs, they just have snap elements.

It’s the same logic as Yeah by Usher being an “electropop” song just because it has electronic synths. Whatever You Like and Lollipop almost has the same beat as “Low”, which has a minimal crunk beat. Even Whatever You’ Like almost sounds like his 2006 hit What You Know About That. So What is more in tune with Pinks 2006 album “I’m Not Dead”. Raise Your Glass sounds more similar to her 2012 Blow Me One Last Kiss. Katy Perry’s 2008 material is in pop rock territory in the same lane as Kelly Clarkson and Avril Lavigne. If I Were a Boy is a typical R&B ballad of its time with a percussion that sounds so un-2010s. Best Thing I Never Had features a gated drum in the chorus that was common in the 2010s. Don’t Stop The Music is not an electropop song because it has hip hop influence in the production. Plus, it has more in common with SOS than Only Girl.

I really not sure what you are hearing  ???, honestly not even trying to be rude. What You Know literally sounds nothing like Whatever you Like, just because it has some synths in the background doesn't mean they sound a like. Whatever you like is essentially a pop song, What You Know is an undisputed rap song. Also WYL sounds nothing like Walk It Out I am nitpicking though lol because I don't necessarily disagree with your entire comment.


I can agree that Low is a southern hip hop song. It still sounds more 2005 than 2011 though. Idk both Lollipop and WYL have beepy synths that are common on snap songs like Walk It Out and This Is Why Im Hot. Both 2008 songs are not snap songs, they just have snap elements.


Yes Low sounds closer to 2005 than 2011. For me, I just can't get past the beat. It sounds too similar to instrumentals from 2006/2007. The instrumental sounds similar to Walk It Out but slowed down. Its really the pace of the song that sounds more 2010s.

I can agree that Low is a southern hip hop song. It still sounds more 2005 than 2011 though. Idk both Lollipop and WYL have beepy synths that are common on snap songs like Walk It Out and This Is Why Im Hot. Both 2008 songs are not snap songs, they just have snap elements.


Well yeah, Low came out in 2007 and was recorded earlier that year. It definitely has more of a mid 2000’s sound that late 2000’s sound. Walk it out and This is why I’m hot sound nothing like Low.

2005.

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What song in 2011 does it like tho?

To me, it actually sounds like something Arcade Fire was doing back in 2004:
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Again what song from 2011 does it sound like? It features none of the glitchy synth stabs popular in early 2010s electropop. It's basically a filler song from her 2007 "Blackout" album.

What song in 2011 does it like tho?

To me, it actually sounds like something Arcade Fire was doing back in 2004:
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Again what song from 2011 does it sound like? It features none of the glitchy synth stabs popular in early 2010s electropop. It's basically a filler song from her 2007 "Blackout" album.


Viva la Vida actually does sound like their 2011 song "Every Teardrop is a Waterfall", but Coldplay is one of those exceptional groups that can release music at any time and would fit with any era even if they don't change their style that much.

What song in 2011 does it like tho?

To me, it actually sounds like something Arcade Fire was doing back in 2004:
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Again what song from 2011 does it sound like? It features none of the glitchy synth stabs popular in early 2010s electropop. It's basically a filler song from her 2007 "Blackout" album.

Viva La Vida has that timeless sound so I guess it can fit in both years.

I would say 2005.

2011 obviously. Not even debatable. 2008 was 2 eras ahead of 2005 (shifts in both '06 and '08, one for the late 2000s and the other for the early 2010s). 2008 was a transitional year and music started changing especially when Lady Gaga came in the scene in the latter half. 2008 was the starting point for early 2010s culture. The 2010s decade started early, in late 2008, almost everyone knows that. It was a transformative year and it has nothing in common with 2005 but a lot with 2011 musically and everything else too.

Well yeah, Low came out in 2007 and was recorded earlier that year. It definitely has more of a mid 2000’s sound that late 2000’s sound. Walk it out and This is why I’m hot sound nothing like Low.

Low has almost an early 2010s sound but I won't go that far lol. Definitely not mid 2000s at all.. Sounds completely late 2000s. There were really no more mid 2000s sounding songs in the late 2000s except for those occasional slow R&B/ballad songs that were popular like from Alicia Keys or Beyonce they had kind of a mid 2000s/core 2000s feel to them but even those were a little different.

2011 obviously. Not even debatable. 2008 was 2 eras ahead of 2005 (shifts in both '06 and '08, one for the late 2000s and the other for the early 2010s). 2008 was a transitional year and music started changing especially when Lady Gaga came in the scene in the latter half. 2008 was the starting point for early 2010s culture. The 2010s decade started early, in late 2008, almost everyone knows that. It was a transformative year and it has nothing in common with 2005 but a lot with 2011 musically and everything else too.

Early 2008 has nothing to do with the early 2010s either.

Early 2008 has nothing to do with the early 2010s either.

I know late 2008 is when the culture really started but early 2008 is still far away from 2005. 2005 was still mid '00s while early 2008 is late '00s. It still has way more in common with 2011 than 2005 regardless of what time of the year you compare it to.

2011 obviously. Not even debatable. 2008 was 2 eras ahead of 2005 (shifts in both '06 and '08, one for the late 2000s and the other for the early 2010s). 2008 was a transitional year and music started changing especially when Lady Gaga came in the scene in the latter half. 2008 was the starting point for early 2010s culture. The 2010s decade started early, in late 2008, almost everyone knows that. It was a transformative year and it has nothing in common with 2005 but a lot with 2011 musically and everything else too.


I'm going to have to disagree. It's definitely not obvious and it is debatable. 2008 isn't even one era ahead of 2005 let alone two. I consider 2005 (at least the later part of the year) to about mid-2008 to be the same era. I call it the MySpace era. 2005 (at least the later part) has more in common with 2008 than even 2004 (at least the early part of '04).

2011 obviously. Not even debatable. 2008 was 2 eras ahead of 2005 (shifts in both '06 and '08, one for the late 2000s and the other for the early 2010s). 2008 was a transitional year and music started changing especially when Lady Gaga came in the scene in the latter half. 2008 was the starting point for early 2010s culture. The 2010s decade started early, in late 2008, almost everyone knows that. It was a transformative year and it has nothing in common with 2005 but a lot with 2011 musically and everything else too.

I would actually put 2009 closer to 2011 than 2008. 2009 had a lot more electropop songs like "Down", "LoveGame", "Poker Face", "3", and "Right Round". 2011 still had hit songs that were in the electropop genre like "The Edge Of Glory", "Blow", and "Hold It Against Me".

2008 was a transitional year, yes, but most of the year was still in a crunk and pop-rock dominated scene with some electropop songs sprinkled throughout ("Disturbia" for example). 2009 had more of a electropop domination.

I would actually put 2009 closer to 2011 than 2008. 2009 had a lot more electropop songs like "Down", "LoveGame", "Poker Face", "3", and "Right Round". 2011 still had hit songs that were in the electropop genre like "The Edge Of Glory", "Blow", and "Hold It Against Me".

2008 was a transitional year, yes, but most of the year was still in a crunk and pop-rock dominated scene with some electropop songs sprinkled throughout ("Disturbia" for example). 2009 had more of a electropop domination.


I was going to say that too. Of course 2009 is closer being 2 years away but it's also part of the same era as 2011 and even 2012 with the electro/EDM sound being dominant. 2008 was not there yet even though Lady Gaga released her album that year, her songs really didn't hit the airwaves and charts until 2009.

I don’t know why it’s so hard to grasp for some people that 2008 is more like 2005 than 2011. Smartphones were extremely rare in 2008 and almost all of the people owned flip phones and other forms of feature phones. Rock was dead on the charts in 2011 while 2008 still had plenty of rock on the charts. I can see I Kissed a Girl  being released on Kelly Clarksons 2004 album Breakaway. Many R&B ballads would never see the light of day in 2011. A lot of hip hop in 2008 had heavy southern hip hop elements. MySpace was used more than Facebook in 2008 and emo was still relevant with bands like Paramore, All Time Low, and Fall Out Boy. Lady Gaga only got popular until the very end of 2008 and continued her dominance throughout 2009. Obama was elected in 2008 but his policies didn’t affect the world until many months after his Inauguration. You also got to realize that Bush was president for the entire 2008.

I would actually put 2009 closer to 2011 than 2008. 2009 had a lot more electropop songs like "Down", "LoveGame", "Poker Face", "3", and "Right Round". 2011 still had hit songs that were in the electropop genre like "The Edge Of Glory", "Blow", and "Hold It Against Me".

2008 was a transitional year, yes, but most of the year was still in a crunk and pop-rock dominated scene with some electropop songs sprinkled throughout ("Disturbia" for example). 2009 had more of a electropop domination.


What crunk songs we’re dominating 2008 ? Serious question, mainly because crunk was not all that big after 2007 from what I remember. In fact hip hop kind of took a down turn in the late 2000’s compared to the earlier middle portion of the decade.

I don’t know why it’s so hard to grasp for some people that 2008 is more like 2005 than 2011. Smartphones were extremely rare in 2008 and almost all of the people owned flip phones and other forms of feature phones. Rock was dead on the charts in 2011 while 2008 still had plenty of rock on the charts. I can see I Kissed a Girl  being released on Kelly Clarksons 2004 album Breakaway. Many R&B ballads would never see the light of day in 2011. A lot of hip hop in 2008 had heavy southern hip hop elements. MySpace was used more than Facebook in 2008 and emo was still relevant with bands like Paramore, All Time Low, and Fall Out Boy. Lady Gaga only got popular until the very end of 2008 and continued her dominance throughout 2009. Obama was elected in 2008 but his policies didn’t affect the world until many months after his Inauguration. You also got to realize that Bush was president for the entire 2008.


I have to disagree culturally. 2005 had more similarities to 2003-2004. Reggae fusion in which Millennium pointed out was big. That wasn’t even a thing in 2008 nor was reggaeton which took over late 2003-2005. 

In the kid culture department, disney channel stopped airing shows after 2007 that were apart of their original network such as Kim possible and that’s so raven which made room for phineas and ferb and wizzards of waverly place.

Hip hop in 2008 was actually more saturated in electro beats rather than southern beats. Amilli is not southern inspired hip hop just bc  lil wayne rapped on them.

What crunk songs we’re dominating 2008 ? Serious question, mainly because crunk was not all that big after 2007 from what I remember. In fact hip hop kind of took a down turn in the late 2000’s compared to the earlier middle portion of the decade.

Well, crunk was declining in popularity, but there were some hit songs like "Low" and "Independent" that had crunk and southern hip hop beats.

Well, crunk was declining in popularity, but there were some hit songs like "Low" and "Independent" that had crunk and southern hip hop beats.


Well that’s true but low and independent were both recorded in 2006/2007 and released in late 2007. But independent was not mainstream compared to all of the other hip hop/ pop culture that was dominating throughout 2008.

Well that’s true but low and independent were both recorded in 2006/2007 and released in late 2007. But independent was not mainstream compared to all of the other hip hop/ pop culture that was dominating throughout 2008.

"Independent" peaked at #9 on the Hot 100, so it's very mainstream. I hate the song, though.

"Independent" peaked at #9 on the Hot 100, so it's very mainstream. I hate the song, though.


I agree that song was terrible.