Like geez, just look at the yearly top 25 from the Billboard for that year:

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"Paralyzer" sounds like a generic Nu Metal song, "So What" features power chords in its chorus directly taken from Pop Punk, "4 Minutes" is probably the most cliché Timbaland song ever, "Touch My Body" is a generic 00s-style R&B jam, "Bubbly" is one those soft campfire mid-late 00s Pop acoustic songs (see "I'm Yours", "You're Beautiful", and so on), "Closer" sounds like typical R&B fare for the time, "Kiss Kiss" is super typical 00s-style Southern Hip Hop stuff, "Pocketful of Sunshine" sounds exactly like what Beddingfield released in 2003/4, "Don't Stop the Music" has some strong early 2000s-style bassy Hip Hop shading to its beat, "Disturbia" is probably the most forward thinking song out of the bunch but it still sounds less crazy and futuristic than what Britney released a year prior on her album Blackout (and come to think of it "Disturbia" might actually sound very Blackout-inspired), "Whatever You Like" is a Snap song, "I Kissed a Girl" is just like "So What" with heavy Pop Punk-inspired power chords on the chorus, "Viva La Vida" sounds interestingly enough a lot like Funeral-era Arcade Fire circa 2004, "Take a Bow" is a very typical 00s-style R&B ballad, "Sexy Can I" is generic R&B that could have easily been released in 2005, "Forever" while strongly R&B-rooted features also some pretty futuristic sounding synths but Kanye West already did similar stuff a year before and even more crazy futuristic soundscapes than this (plus those  synths sound something Daft Punk could have come up with in the early 2000s), "With You" is another generic 00s-style R&B ballad, "Love in this Club" is a poorly produced R&B club jam with ugly Crunk synths, "Love Song" is an anthemic Piano Rock song quiet reminiscent of "A Thousand Miles", "No Air" is a R&B ballad duet not too far removed in concept from something like "My Boo", "Apologize" is even more typical Timbaland stuff that sounds less futuristic and forward thinking than even "Try Again" from 2000, "Lollipop" is also very typical stuff from the 2000s Southern Hip Hop scene mixed with some Snap elements and an electric guitar, "No One" is a big anthemic R&B ballad, "Bleeding Love" is a big anthemic R&B ballad 2, "Low" is a Crunk song.

Thank you. I have no idea why people thought music from 2008 leaned towards the 2010s. 2008 has more in common with 2006 than 2010 music-wise. 2009 was the real transition from 2000s to 2010s music.

Sounds nothing like the 2000s, and way more like the 2010s. If you want real 2000s music listen to songs released before 2006.

All of this "what is 2000s 2010s culture" stuff is completely subjective. For years people here went on and on about 2009 was so 2010s culture, but now lo and behold, in 2019 I'm starting to see Zoomers on other sites claim the exact opposite and that "2010-2013 was basically an extension of the 2000s". Yes, the day where people say that, which some us may've dreaded, is finally here. ;D

Funny enough, people online also used to say "1999 wasn't really 90s, more proto-2000s culture" or "That pokemon nsync crap isn't real 90s". But now in 2019 everyone on social media thinks 1999 culture like Pokemon and NSYNC is the 90sest thing ever.

But now in 2019 everyone on social media thinks 1999 culture like Pokemon and NSYNC is the 90sest thing ever.

Yeah this always baffled me as someone who sees 1999 as not '90s at all.

in 2019 I'm starting to see Zoomers on other sites claim the exact opposite and that "2010-2013 was basically an extension of the 2000s". Yes, the day where people say that, which some us may've dreaded, is finally here. ;D

Oh wow yeah that's crazy the people who say that must be very young. I knew that day would come too.

Sounds nothing like the 2000s, and way more like the 2010s.
That's bullcrap lol, I listed all the extensive reasons above.
But obviously why would I expect a tinge of good reasoning ::)

Zero valid arguments and just pure contrarian children-like "no no that's not true cuz i said so!".

People forget it took Lady Gaga until summer 2009 or so to become a household name. Before that even Katy Perry was making pop rock and Britney Spears was still the face of pop music

I don't get why some people on here think that decades have to end on XXX8 when decades like the 60s and 70s were at their peak in 1968/1978 ???.
2008 was "core" 2000s in almost everything besides technology (and even that is debatable since smartphones weren't mainstream until a couple of years later anyway).

All of this "what is 2000s 2010s culture" stuff is completely subjective. For years people here went on and on about 2009 was so 2010s culture, but now lo and behold, in 2019 I'm starting to see Zoomers on other sites claim the exact opposite and that "2010-2013 was basically an extension of the 2000s". Yes, the day where people say that, which some us may've dreaded, is finally here. ;D

Funny enough, people online also used to say "1999 wasn't really 90s, more proto-2000s culture" or "That pokemon nsync crap isn't real 90s". But now in 2019 everyone on social media thinks 1999 culture like Pokemon and NSYNC is the 90sest thing ever.

Wow, 2010 - 2013 was absolutely not an extension of the 2000s.  8-P 8-P

Haha I posted this thread when I was half drunk if you want to hear a fun fact.
But even half drunk me is correct ;D


I don't get why some people on here think that decades have to end on XXX8 when decades like the 60s and 70s were at their peak in 1968/1978 ???.
2008 was "core" 2000s in almost everything besides technology (and even that is debatable since smartphones weren't mainstream until a couple of years later anyway).
Yeah I don't get it either. 1963 and 1969 were so much more different in so many aspects than 2003 and 2009 could ever dream to be, yet they still belong to their decade and both are important key years into the whole 60s story.

In my opinion, it's just people on here trying to make their early childhood more special and not be associated with pesky younger people, because that's the worst thing ever right  ::)

Haha I posted this thread when I was half drunk if you want to hear a fun fact.
But even half drunk me is correct ;D
Yeah I don't get it either. 1963 and 1969 were so much more different in so many aspects than 2003 and 2009 could ever dream to be, yet they still belong to their decade and both are important key years into the whole 60s story.

In my opinion, it's just people on here trying to make their early childhood more special and not be associated with pesky younger people, because that's the worst thing ever right  ::)

Oh my god yes I couldn't agree more!!! 2003 is different from 2004, 2004 is different from 2005, 2005 is different than 2006, 2006 is different from 2007, etc... but that doesn't mean that any of those years are any less 2000s than the other.

I think a lot of the reason has to do with Obama's campaign, also the fact there was some underground music in 2008 that pointed towards the 2010s. Also you had hipstery movies like Juno that came out around that time that sort of pointed towards what would be popular in the early 2010s, though I'd argue that they're quite dated now.

I agree though, I think musically speaking the 2010s really started late in 2009. Probably in other ways too - Scott Pilgrim was filmed in 2009 and is a very 2010s movie.

In my opinion, it's just people on here trying to make their early childhood more special and not be associated with pesky younger people, because that's the worst thing ever right  ::)

Not at all. But trust me, the real 2000s were not the late 2000s. Even as early as 2006 you had little hints of what the next decade was gonna bring, and by late 2008 we were already in 2010s culture. The 2000s was a very short decade culturally speaking. It was like the in-between of the 1990s and 2010s which were completely different. The 2000s acted as a bridge to the new way of life, but it was not the new way of life quite yet. A unique and great decade.

There are tons of differences between now and 2008 no doubt. But can I honestly say it felt like a completely different decade? Not at all. But early and mid 2000s? Now that's a different story. Very different and clearly distinct decade from the 2010s (and '90s too) in that case.

Could you also analyze the top 25 2009 list to see how "2000s" it is?

Not at all. But trust me, the real 2000s were not the late 2000s. Even as early as 2006 you had little hints of what the next decade was gonna bring, and by late 2008 we were already in 2010s culture. The 2000s was a very short decade culturally speaking. It was like the in-between of the 1990s and 2010s which were completely different. The 2000s acted as a bridge to the new way of life, but it was not the new way of life quite yet. A unique and great decade.

There are tons of differences between now and 2008 no doubt. But can I honestly say it felt like a completely different decade? Not at all. But early and mid 2000s? Now that's a different story. Very different and clearly distinct decade from the 2010s (and '90s too) in that case.

These pseudo-theory and rose-tinted headcanon on the decade's borders are fully irrevelant with the actual discussion at hand anyway.


Could you also analyze the top 25 2009 list to see how "2000s" it is?

This sounds like a nice thing to do!