Anyone else feel this way

In a sense, yes.

For example, I remember Obama taking office as if it was just a short time ago. (Of course it'll be 10 yrs since then on the 20th of this month.)

It seems a lot more recent than 2008 for some reason.

I think 2008 started to feel more distant around the 10 year mark. 2009 might feel more distant as the year progresses.

In a sense, yes.

For example, I remember Obama taking office as if it was just a short time ago. (Of course it'll be 10 yrs since then on the 20th of this month.)
I remember the whole atmosphere in 2009 that weird nuclear blast post pop emptiness was still there until 2016, mall stores that were gone did not get replenished until 2016. The whole electronic vibe lasted into 2013 so Its hard to see 2009 as recent

I remember the whole atmosphere in 2009 that weird nuclear blast post pop emptiness was still there until 2016, mall stores that were gone did not get replenished until 2016. The whole electronic vibe lasted into 2013 so Its hard to see 2009 as recent
2008 feels more distant because it was before the popculture apocalypse wave that hit

*sigh*

2009 is literally early 2010s.

I just took a trip down 2009 memory lane and it's dated like it's 10 years ago lol.

2009 is like another world in almost every way.  I would say the only thing that's similar today to 2009 is social media and the iPhone but even then, they are very primitive back then compared to today.

2009 wasn't the best year in my personal life but I do miss it.  Definitely seems like those were simpler days.

This forum is a mess.

It doesn't feel long ago at all. When I think of 2029, I picture a time far away from now that's completely detatched from the realities of today. Naive perhaps. But 2009 in contrast seems so relevant, and life hasn't changed all that much since then (other than the world becoming dumber thanks to social media–in 2009 we had social media, but it wasn't making people dumber yet).

But then again 4 days into 2019 the year hasn't come into its own yet lol, technically 2009 is still culturally 9 years ago. A lot can happen in a year so only time will tell ;)

It doesn't feel long ago at all. When I think of 2029, I picture a time far away from now that's completely detatched from the realities of today. Naive perhaps. But 2009 in contrast seems so relevant, and life hasn't changed all that much since then (other than the world becoming dumber thanks to social media–in 2009 we had social media, but it wasn't making people dumber yet).


In 2009, social media was still a young person’s world as opposed to today where everyone and their crazy flat-earther uncle has a platform.

For me, 2009 seems like another world but it’s probably because my own life has changed so much then.

Anyone else feel this way


Put it this way, imagine a young teenager from say 1989 looking at the pop culture of 1979 (music, fashion, ect).

It would be instantly dated, we just don't get those kinds of changes (to make things dated) in the 21st century anymore.

Its just been 20 years of changing sameness if you know what I mean. :-\\

Put it this way, imagine a young teenager from say 1989 looking at the pop culture of 1979 (music, fashion, ect).

It would be instantly dated, we just don't get those kinds of changes (to make things dated) in the 21st century anymore.

Its just been 20 years of changing sameness if you know what I mean. :-\\


I think I get this. With how technology is now, its going to be confusing explaining what era is truly dated and isn't. iPhones are update so constant, its ridiculous.

I think I get this. With how technology is now, its going to be confusing explaining what era is truly dated and isn't. iPhones are update so constant, its ridiculous.


Age is important too. The younger you are, the more dated any year in the past will appear. My mum is in her 50s and she doesn't think the 90s are different to today besides the internet, and that's largely because in the 90s she was raising children and wasn't interested in pop culture much. She thinks the 80s are completely different though.

I do think that years blend more into one another now than they did before but 2009 will definitely look dated eventually, even if it doesn't now. A bit more time might be needed though. I really don't think I'll be 40 years old in 2035 looking back to my teenage years and thinking 'Nothing has changed in 25 years'.

2009 is like another world in almost every way.  I would say the only thing that's similar today to 2009 is social media and the iPhone but even then, they are very primitive back then compared to today.

2009 wasn't the best year in my personal life but I do miss it.  Definitely seems like those were simpler days.


eh theres a few aspects of the first few months of 2009, KB toys and Circuit City on its final days but thats about it really
The whole Nuclear bomb atmosphere, with stores closing and the economy collapsing lasted for many years after 2009.
Not to mention Gaga Kesha & Katy replaced the normal 2000s artists except for Britney.

Age is important too. The younger you are, the more dated any year in the past will appear. My mum is in her 50s and she doesn't think the 90s are different to today besides the internet, and that's largely because in the 90s she was raising children and wasn't interested in pop culture much. She thinks the 80s are completely different though.

I do think that years blend more into one another now than they did before but 2009 will definitely look dated eventually, even if it doesn't now. A bit more time might be needed though. I really don't think I'll be 40 years old in 2035 looking back to my teenage years and thinking 'Nothing has changed in 25 years'.


In 2009 the 2001-2002 school year seemed like light years away,  while in 2019  the  2011-2012 school year (despite being out of school then)
feels not that different aside from Electropop and Obama



That period of 2008 really did swipe almost everything 2000s away in the final months of the year, It sucked like everything.
By the time 2009 happened the changes were pretty much already in place.

In 2009 the 2001-2002 school year seemed like light years away,  while in 2019  the  2011-2012 school year (despite being out of school then)
feels not that different aside from Electropop and Obama



That period of 2008 really did swipe almost everything 2000s away in the final months of the year, It sucked like everything.
By the time 2009 happened the changes were pretty much already in place.


I was 16 in 2011. I agree that it doesn't feel too different but it is starting to feel more distant in my mind. I am a very different person at 23 (almost 24) than I was at 16.

I was only 6 in 2001, that feels like another lifetime ago to me.

I was 16 in 2011. I agree that it doesn't feel too different but it is starting to feel more distant in my mind. I am a very different person at 23 (almost 24) than I was at 16.

I was only 6 in 2001, that feels like another lifetime ago to me.


in 2001 I was like 12 or 13
2009 I was like 20 or something


2011 does have potential  to be more dated, it has everything, Blockbuster in its last year, Electropop, the fashion, I think it is going to take
maybe 3 more years until it feels like another world.

2011 feels like light years away lmao, people back then weren't obsessed about the latest Netflix show or Instagram fad. People were buying their music on iTunes and do the shuffle dance to LMFAO.

2011 feels like light years away lmao, people back then weren't obsessed about the latest Netflix show or Instagram fad. People were buying their music on iTunes and do the shuffle dance to LMFAO.


2011 did not feel light years away LMAO it feels a little dated but not light years.
It feels like its almost there in terms of feeling like the distant past.

Obama remained until the first month of 2017
Electropop continued in first few months of 2013
Twitter was and still is a thing
Facebook was and still is popular
Imax was and still is popular


The fashions were mix of core 2000s trends fading off quickly of more 2010s fashions.
The Hipster trend became the dominant trend towards the last month of 2011.

Obama remained until the first month of 2017
No one really cared about Obama after the election, or the whole of 2016 for that matter.

Twitter was and still is a thing
Pre- vs. Post-peak

Facebook was and still is popular
It still popular with old people at best.

Imax was and still is popular
Hmm?

No one really cared about Obama after the election, or the whole of 2016 for that matter.
Pre- vs. Post-peak
It still popular with old people at best.
Hmm?


what I am getting at is 2009 was a full Obama year  2010 2011 2012 2013 2014
pretty much had the same base as 2009 (like if 2009 was Windows XP and the other years were Windows 7, Windows 8 building ontop of the foundation)

Yeah 2009 still feels pretty recent. I think it's because the older you get, the more time seems to pass by faster. So that's why it no longer feel like 10 years ago like it did before. And since 2009 things didn't radically change besides politics so that also plays a role. Back in 2016, 2006 didn't feel 10 years ago either. Neither did 2008 last year. Time just keeps passing by fast as we get older and this decade was not as transformative as the '90s and 2000s were.

Although I think between 1999-2009 had more differences than 2009-2019 bc 9/11, smartphones and the rise of social networks

Tbh even in 2009 I didn't think 1999 was that long ago. Thinking that 1999 had already been 10 years ago was mind-blowing to me. Maybe 10 years just isn't that long of a duration for radical change.

In 2009, social media was still a young person’s world as opposed to today where everyone and their crazy flat-earther uncle has a platform.

For me, 2009 seems like another world but it’s probably because my own life has changed so much then.


Hell yeah, I remember social media being a "young person" thing, which was one of the reasons I totally refused to have anything to do with it, that was back when I was a young person!

It's weird, I got my first (and only) car in April 2009.

Hard to believe that will be 10 years ago now as I have vivid and tangible memories from then, whereas 2006 feels really vague, probably because I never really did much when I was young.

And that is my major regret in life.

Tbh even in 2009 I didn't think 1999 was that long ago. Thinking that 1999 had already been 10 years ago was mind-blowing to me. Maybe 10 years just isn't that long of a duration for radical change.

Kinda how I remember it then too. However, in 1999 when I looked back on 1989 it definitely seemed like a "long time ago" to me, since in 1999 I turned 19 and 1989 I was 9. My life had changed a lot in that span.

Put it this way, imagine a young teenager from say 1989 looking at the pop culture of 1979 (music, fashion, ect).

It would be instantly dated, we just don't get those kinds of changes (to make things dated) in the 21st century anymore.

Its just been 20 years of changing sameness if you know what I mean. :-\\


Wow, yes, I tend to agree. I've often referred on these forums that things have just been an "evolution" since the mid 2000s rather than anything changing in a major way.

2006 was basically the same youth orientated culture as we have today, just with less technology.

So it's weird when I encounter younger people at work places that I am 10 years older than, but our mannerisms and cultural references aren't very far from each other at all, compared to a similar age gap 10 years ago.

Wow, yes, I tend to agree. I've often referred on these forums that things have just been an "evolution" since the mid 2000s rather than anything changing in a major way.

2006 was basically the same youth orientated culture as we have today, just with less technology.

So it's weird when I encounter younger people at work places that I am 10 years older than, but our mannerisms and cultural references aren't very far from each other at all, compared to a similar age gap 10 years ago.


Since you're 29 I'm guessing you were born in 1989 and turn 30 this year? If so, that makes an interesting change as most people your age will argue to the death that they have nothing in common with people born in 1999.

By contrast, I was 11 in 2006 and I wouldn't say that the youth culture then was basically the same as it is now. Probably not as different as youth culture in 2006 was from 1996 but still different nevertheless. You shouldn't underestimate the impact social media and the rise of smartphones has had on youth culture. I definitely don't think my mannerisms and cultural references are the same as a 13 year old.

I was born in the same year 89 and things are not the same at all than the 2000s


- smart phones everywhere
- Less homophobia more tolerance
- Fashion went from XXL to skinny
- Media consumption is different
- Uber instead of taxis
-outrage culture
-Tinder



Like so many things, not even close to the same lol

This week as #1 on the Billboard in 1999, 2009 and 2019

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This week as #1 on the Billboard in 1999, 2009 and 2019
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A song like Brandy's going #1 today is unimaginable.

A song like Brandy's going #1 today is unimaginable.


true

A song like Brandy's going #1 today is unimaginable.
There was "Perfect" last year which isn't too far off to be honest.

Tbh even in 2009 I didn't think 1999 was that long ago. Thinking that 1999 had already been 10 years ago was mind-blowing to me. Maybe 10 years just isn't that long of a duration for radical change.


I agree. Back in 2009 was actually around the first remnants of early childhood nostalgia started popping up for me. I remember that me and my cousin, used to reminisce about our memories as kids back in 99'-01' (he was 5-7 at the time, I was 3-5). Dragon Ball Z, the first season of Pokemon, the colorful late 90s/early 00s iMacs, N64, Gushers, etc. etc.

It was certainly crazy how distant the world of 1999 seemed to us from 2009 when we were teenagers. Now as a 20 something grown ass man, looking back to my days in middle school, while definitely are distinctively part of a different era both culturally and for my personal life, they just don't seem to give me the that same sense of awe.

I think age does play into it, especially since as one ages older the passage of time (in many ways) seems to go by quicker. However, at the same time, I do think that in some sense because the culture of the 2000s decade was rather transformative, be it television, cartoons, movies, video games, politics, & most certainly technology, that lookback at the more innocent days of my early childhood prior to 9/11 seemed a lot more distant than for me to look back at my middle school days when much of our current social/geopolitical & (in many ways, but obviously has evolved) cultural values are still pretty similar.

The closest thing to a 9/11 or a Global Financial Crisis, aka two massive events that completely changed the societal zeitgeist that was contained in the 2000s, that we had in the 2010s was probably the election of Donald Trump (I'm sure some you remember the 9/11 vs. 11/9 comparison memes on facebook ;D). Other than that, I think the more steadily changing cultural vibe of the 2010s in contrast to the more rapid vibes in culture during the 1990s & 2000s, definitely in a way makes 2009 seem a lot more recent the context of someone in 2019, than 1999 did to someone in 2009, or even 1989 to someone in 1999. Just my two cents.

1999 seemed much longer ago in 2009 to me because I was only 4 in 1999. I can hardly remember anything from then. 2009, on the other hand, is clear as a bell. The more vague your memories are, the longer ago they will appear. We now have kids online talking about 2011 like it was a really long time ago, and if you were only 6 or 7 at the time then it will feel like a really long time ago. For someone my age, it doesn't.

When I speak to people older than me, say in their 40s and 50s, they don't think 1999 feels 20 years ago. They don't think 1990 feels almost 30 years ago. As you get older, the passage of time does indeed speed up. There are people who still can't get over the fact that people born in 1995 like me are adults, let alone that we enter our mid 20s this year, and that's because to them, 1995 still feels like 10 years ago.

There are people who still can't get over the fact that people born in 1995 like me are adults, let alone that we enter our mid 20s this year, and that's because to them, 1995 still feels like 10 years ago.
This is hardly anything new. I remember reading some very old Google Groups posts from the early 90s and how some people were shocked that there were posters born in the mid 70s ;D.
In my opinion it's just people finally realizing how actually much time has pass since ages immediately put things in perspective.

Also 2009 feels like a while ago to me, sorry people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I kind of lump the mid- and late-2000s borns together (I have a sis born in 2005), so I'm at this point used to thinking people born in 2009 are like 12 when they're only 9/10 fortunately!

The reason why 2009 feels more recent than 2008 despite 1 year difference is because in 2008 everything that was classic 2000s was destroyed

Classic TRL
Toonami
KB Toys
GW Bush
R&b dominating the airwaves
Pop punk
WWE ruthless agression era
The Economy

So in 2009 we had a clean slate year that was the foundation for the rest including Obama

This week as #1 on the Billboard in 1999, 2009 and 2019

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Wow! Very Interseting!  So, Brandy was in all of them.  Seems her career now spans 30 years!

The reason why 2009 feels more recent than 2008 despite 1 year difference is because in 2008 everything that was classic 2000s was destroyed

Classic TRL
Toonami
KB Toys
GW Bush
R&b dominating the airwaves
Pop punk
WWE ruthless agression era
The Economy

So in 2009 we had a clean slate year that was the foundation for the rest including Obama


Thats actually a very good point. It almost seemed like 2009 was the 2010s equivalent to say 1981 for the 1980s or even 2001 for the 2000s. Also leading into why 2009 feels pretty recent, although still rather dated.

Thats actually a very good point. It almost seemed like 2009 was the 2010s equivalent to say 1981 for the 1980s or even 2001 for the 2000s. Also leading into why 2009 feels pretty recent, although still rather dated.


Exactly, 2009 was like the foundation of the house being built, the house that was the 2010s. The old has to be destroyed before a new foundation can be built. Having said that 2009 is 100% dated in it's own right.

Exactly, 2009 was like the foundation of the house being built, the house that was the 2010s. The old has to be destroyed before a new foundation can be built. Having said that 2009 is 100% dated in it's own right.


2009 is a bridge between the late 2000s and early 2010s. It is a unique year.

2009 is a bridge between the late 2000s and early 2010s. It is a unique year.


Just like how 2019 is the bridge between the 2010s and 2020s, or how 1999 is the bridge between the '90s and '00s, or how 1989 is the bridge between the '80s and '90s, or how 1979 is the bridge between the '70s and '80s?  ::) Doesn't seem unique to me. The final year of a decade always contains elements of pop culture which have links to the current and/or following decade.

Anyone who thinks 2009 isn't that different from today needs to stay away from me.

Anyone who thinks 2009 isn't that different from today needs to stay away from me.


Girl bye

Girl bye


+1

Anyone who thinks 2009 isn't that different from today needs to stay away from me.


Its certainly very different. I think what I was trying to get at is that the difference between 2019 & 2009 doesn't seem to be as big as 2009 & 1999. But don't get me wrong, 2009 is still certainly dated. Different styles of music, different TV shows, the economy, politics, etc. 2009 still had a lot of '2000sness' going on, despite a lot of 2010s trends premiering that year, if that makes any sense. In fact I'd dare say that overall, 2009 as a whole probably leans more 2000s than 2010s in the grand scheme of things. Its just that despite so much 2000s trends still being prevalent that year, there was also a lot of new 2010s trends (granted, not really to our knowledge at the time) that were simultaneously being introduced.


As an example;

In the 2007-2008 & 2008-2009 school years, Myspace & AIM were main ways people in my grade communicated with each other. Almost everybody had one of these accounts.

However;

In the 2009-2010 school year, all of the sudden Facebook just came in out of nowhere and swooped into massive popularity. Usage of Myspace & (especially) AIM declined rather sharply.


Like one poster mentioned, 2009 was sort of the bridge between the 2000s & the 2010s. The year had both The ER & Jersey Shore on the air ;D, shows that are both rather distinct to their respective decades.

Its certainly very different. I think what I was trying to get at is that the difference between 2019 & 2009 doesn't seem to be as big as 2009 & 1999. But don't get me wrong, 2009 is still certainly dated. Different styles of music, different TV shows, the economy, politics, etc. 2009 still had a lot of '2000sness' going on, despite a lot of 2010s trends premiering that year, if that makes any sense. In fact I'd dare say that overall, 2009 as a whole probably leans more 2000s than 2010s in the grand scheme of things. Its just that despite so much 2000s trends still being prevalent that year, there was also a lot of new 2010s trends (granted, not really to our knowledge at the time) that were simultaneously being introduced.


As an example;

In the 2007-2008 & 2008-2009 school years, Myspace & AIM were main ways people in my grade communicated with each other. Almost everybody had one of these accounts.

However;

In the 2009-2010 school year, all of the sudden Facebook just came in out of nowhere and swooped into massive popularity. Usage of Myspace & (especially) AIM declined rather sharply.


Like one poster mentioned, 2009 was sort of the bridge between the 2000s & the 2010s. The year had both The ER & Jersey Shore on the air ;D, shows that are both rather distinct to their respective decades.

It’s ok if people think the difference between 1999 and 2009 is bigger.
It’s ok to think some things from 2009 are still relevant today.
But when someone says the culture is the same as now that’s when I lose faith in humanity  ;D
(yes i know op didn’t say it was the same lol)

+1


I was joking ;D

It’s ok if people think the difference between 1999 and 2009 is bigger.
It’s ok to think some things from 2009 are still relevant today.
But when someone says the culture is the same as now that’s when I lose faith in humanity  ;D
(yes i know op didn’t say it was the same lol)


LOL Facts ;D. In some ways, I'm glad many of the trends from 2009 aren't still popular anymore.

Imagine still seeing people like this walking around?


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They’re all so random xD

I kinda miss the late 2000s..

Its certainly very different. I think what I was trying to get at is that the difference between 2019 & 2009 doesn't seem to be as big as 2009 & 1999. But don't get me wrong, 2009 is still certainly dated. Different styles of music, different TV shows, the economy, politics, etc. 2009 still had a lot of '2000sness' going on, despite a lot of 2010s trends premiering that year, if that makes any sense. In fact I'd dare say that overall, 2009 as a whole probably leans more 2000s than 2010s in the grand scheme of things. Its just that despite so much 2000s trends still being prevalent that year, there was also a lot of new 2010s trends (granted, not really to our knowledge at the time) that were simultaneously being introduced.


As an example;

In the 2007-2008 & 2008-2009 school years, Myspace & AIM were main ways people in my grade communicated with each other. Almost everybody had one of these accounts.

However;

In the 2009-2010 school year, all of the sudden Facebook just came in out of nowhere and swooped into massive popularity. Usage of Myspace & (especially) AIM declined rather sharply.


Like one poster mentioned, 2009 was sort of the bridge between the 2000s & the 2010s. The year had both The ER & Jersey Shore on the air ;D, shows that are both rather distinct to their respective decades.


In new jersey Facebook took over on 2007, many other places as well but Facebook and Myspace were on the same level.
2008 was that year in between that was getting rid of the old and setting up the new foundation for what 2009 would bring

Anyone who thinks 2009 isn't that different from today needs to stay away from me.


no one is saying it's not different from today lol


2009 was a clean slate year that had trends that would last into 2013 (some even 2016)
In 2009 you lived in the year that............................................

- No Kb Toys (until it's 2019 return)
-  Had no TRL (until 2017 until it was canceled )
- Obama as the President instead of Bush (until 2016)
-  HD replacing SD  complete
- Electropop the dominant music force (would last until 2013)
- Android started creeping up
- Ps3 takes over xbox 360 in popularity with the slim (would last until 2013)
- American Appeal & urban Outfitters starts becoming the standard
- Vevo debuts
- the Nick logo
- No circuit city
- pop punk huge decline and almost erased
- Kesha debuting

Due to the Vevo publishing dates, quite a decent ammount of very young people think 2009 is like the most 2000s year having seen all these songs released within a year ;D

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I'm wondering if that's the reason why 2009 in particular in so worshipped in the comments section community 🤔

^^ Yeah. It's super funny how some people really think those music videos in 2009. I even saw people saying that in the "Ooops...I Did It Again" comment section.

I was joking ;D


I know your not that type of user but, still +1ed it.

I must be getting so old because 2009 feels like yesterday. I just can't believe it was 10 years ago, time is speeding up...

I must be getting so old because 2009 feels like yesterday. I just can't believe it was 10 years ago, time is speeding up...


and we're not getting any younger.

and we're not getting any younger.

Yup, pretty soon multiple years will feel like one.

10 years ago IS recent

10 years ago IS recent

Relatively speaking, yes.

10 years ago IS recent


ehhh I wouldn't say so

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I just remembered that in 2009 I still had a 60GB bandwidth cap on my Internet. I'm crying. We've come so far.

I just remembered that in 2009 I still had a 60GB bandwidth cap on my Internet. I'm crying. We've come so far.


thats terrible

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Very very sad with what has happened to the state of music.

Very very sad with what has happened to the state of music.



It sucks.

Very very sad with what has happened to the state of music.


Music is one of the things I've really liked about the late '10s.  I think music now is so much better and more interesting than it was in 2015.

Music is one of the things I've really liked about the late '10s.  I think music now is so much better and more interesting than it was in 2015.


I like a lot of music from the 2010s actually. I just think people always 💩 on modern music and probably always will.

I like a lot of music from the 2010s actually. I just think people always 💩 on modern music and probably always will.

How can anyone like music today? And comparing that Ariana Grande song to Britney Spears and Kelly Clarkson? The music is so terrible it's not even funny. There's nothing to like about it in my opinion.  Music is on a steady decline in terms of quality.

How can anyone like music today? And comparing that Ariana Grande song to Britney Spears and Kelly Clarkson? The music is so terrible it's not even funny. There's nothing to like about it in my opinion.  Music is on a steady decline in terms of quality.

And until recently, 2000s music was considered trash by a lot of people. Britney was considered a low point in music. It’s all so predictable. This cycle always repeats itself.

And until recently, 2000s music was considered trash by a lot of people. Britney was considered a low point in music. It’s all so predictable. This cycle always repeats itself.

Yeah trash compared to the years before. That just proves music is getting progressively worse when what was considered trash at one point is gold today compared to the trash today... So I don't even wanna know what music will sound like 10 years from now. 

Music is one of the things I've really liked about the late '10s.  I think music now is so much better and more interesting than it was in 2015.
I'm sorry but 2015 was the year of the musical gems 8)
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I'd say the late 2010s are the worst period in music in history. Only exception would be some songs from 2016 and the first half of 2017. Even worse than the early 2010s which is the second worst period. The mid 2010s for music were good. But on the whole we can see music is getting progressively worse as time goes on and that comparison is proof of that. That Ariana Grande song is so terrible.

I'd say the late 2010s are the worst period in music in history. Only exception would be some songs from 2016 and the first half of 2017. Even worse than the early 2010s which is the second worst period. The mid 2010s for music were good. But on the whole we can see music is getting progressively worse as time goes on and that comparison is proof of that. That Ariana Grande song is so terrible.


Spoken like someone who doesn't listen to K-Pop.

Yeah trash compared to the years before. That just proves music is getting progressively worse when what was considered trash at one point is gold today compared to the trash today... So I don't even wanna know what music will sound like 10 years from now.

All three songs are trash if we being real.

All three songs are trash if we being real.

Yeah but the last one is by far the worst.

How can anyone like music today? And comparing that Ariana Grande song to Britney Spears and Kelly Clarkson? The music is so terrible it's not even funny. There's nothing to like about it in my opinion.  Music is on a steady decline in terms of quality.


I don't, I use to listen to Brittney Spears from back in the day (late 90's) but I'm not familiar with Kelly Clarkson or Ariana Grande at all, just not down with today's music, I'm an old school guy.

And until recently, 2000s music was considered trash by a lot of people. Britney was considered a low point in music. It’s all so predictable. This cycle always repeats itself.
Oh yeah definitely. For example even as late as the mid-2000s, 80s music was still derailed by music critics for its overly corporate nature and the sell-out moves by bands. And now, it's considered a golden age for Pop music or something.

LOL Facts ;D. In some ways, I'm glad many of the trends from 2009 aren't still popular anymore.

Imagine still seeing people like this walking around?


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You do still see youths of today with similar styles though, this emo style and others haven't completely died out. The "vestiges" are still around, even today of many 2000s things. Remember young adults of 2019 will have been somewhat influenced by fashion of the 2000s since they would have been children at the time. It's the next generation where 2000s influences will fully disappear.

Very very sad with what has happened to the state of music.
What's even more annoying is that people would rather stream it than keep it, which is not so great if you like more obscure songs that are likely to be taken off of streaming services.

I don't, I use to listen to Brittney Spears from back in the day (late 90's) but I'm not familiar with Kelly Clarkson or Ariana Grande at all, just not down with today's music, I'm an old school guy.
Intresting, you would've been like 23-24 when she blew up with hit me baby one more time. I bet most guys your age were hating on the teen pop stuff of the late 90s just like us who are 2 decades younger are hating on today's music. I know quite a few gen xers who liked the nu-metal stuff back then tho.

You do still see youths of today with similar styles though, this emo style and others haven't completely died out. The "vestiges" are still around, even today of many 2000s things. Remember young adults of 2019 will have been somewhat influenced by fashion of the 2000s since they would have been children at the time. It's the next generation where 2000s influences will fully disappear.


I agree.  The longer hair with the swoop has made kind of a comeback, though it's a bit different than it was during the emo/scene era.  Today it's more long on the top and short on the sides while back then it was more of a shag.  I also don't think dying hair unnatural colors is as big now as it was back then.  Still, that picture looks a little dated but it doesn't look like another world.

And I agree.  I think the 2020s will be very different from the 2010s but how, I'm not sure.  I think about 2021 or so we'll start to get an idea.  I think a lot of it depends on how the 2020 election shapes up.  I know politics isn't everything, but I think the 2020s could end up being an extremely turbulent decade politically and that will impact the pop culture.

Intresting, you would've been like 23-24 when she blew up with hit me baby one more time. I bet most guys your age were hating on the teen pop stuff of the late 90s just like us who are 2 decades younger are hating on today's music. I know quite a few gen xers who liked the nu-metal stuff back then tho.


I did listen to a few Brittney Spears songs during the 90's, that's about it, she's not my type of music to listen to, TBH.

I agree.  The longer hair with the swoop has made kind of a comeback, though it's a bit different than it was during the emo/scene era.  Today it's more long on the top and short on the sides while back then it was more of a shag.  I also don't think dying hair unnatural colors is as big now as it was back then.  Still, that picture looks a little dated but it doesn't look like another world.

The one we have this decade looks annoyingly more gender conforming.

I did listen to a few Brittney Spears songs during the 90's, that's about it, she's not my type of music to listen to, TBH.
Nice,  I wouldn't expect a guy like you to enjoy the bubblegum teen pop music since it mainly catered towards girls.  Britney Spears did had some bangers from 98-03 but fell off pretty hard in the mid 00s.

I agree.  The longer hair with the swoop has made kind of a comeback, though it's a bit different than it was during the emo/scene era.  Today it's more long on the top and short on the sides while back then it was more of a shag.  I also don't think dying hair unnatural colors is as big now as it was back then.  Still, that picture looks a little dated but it doesn't look like another world.

And I agree.  I think the 2020s will be very different from the 2010s but how, I'm not sure.  I think about 2021 or so we'll start to get an idea.  I think a lot of it depends on how the 2020 election shapes up.  I know politics isn't everything, but I think the 2020s could end up being an extremely turbulent decade politically and that will impact the pop culture.


Yes, yes, that is true. Just yesterday I was in town and saw a young woman with green hair walking with her friend. It's particularly strange seeing fashions that were popular back when I was a teen.

But you don't see these fashions as much. Nose piercings are still very common among young slightly more alternative women as well.

I would really love to go back to 2008 and live my life free rather than trapped in shyness and anxiety.

I don't know about where you guys are at, but coloured hair is really popular here, more popular than the late 2000s. Pink, silver, cyan and purple are the most common choices. I don't see it much on guys though, except some pink or electric blue highlights.

Nice,  I wouldn't expect a guy like you to enjoy the bubblegum teen pop music since it mainly catered towards girls.  Britney Spears did had some bangers from 98-03 but fell off pretty hard in the mid 00s.


The few things I can remember was that she was married for a short period to Jason Alexander, that didn't last long, her shaving her head and going mental and her short lived reality show.

I would really love to go back to 2008 and live my life free rather than trapped in shyness and anxiety.


I agree.  My twenties were terrible and unlike my teens, they didn't have to be.  It was my own poor decisions and fear of making difficult choices.

idk, 2009 feels pretty old to me. sometimes i'm like "holy sheesh i can't believe 2009 was a decade ago" but then i look at anything from 2009 and i'm like "yep, that's a definitely a decade ago"  ;D.
i think the 10 year challenge showed how dated 2009 is, at least in terms of fashion. everyone looked very 2000s.

I agree.  My twenties were terrible and unlike my teens, they didn't have to be.  It was my own poor decisions and fear of making difficult choices.
I thought you enjoyed your 20s more than your teens. I know you speak very highly of the early 10s.

idk, 2009 feels pretty old to me. sometimes i'm like "holy sheesh i can't believe 2009 was a decade ago" but then i look at anything from 2009 and i'm like "yep, that's a definitely a decade ago"  ;D.

That's exactly how I feel about 2009.

I thought you enjoyed your 20s more than your teens. I know you speak very highly of the early 10s.


I had a couple of good years (the end of 2009, 2010, and 2011) before my life went to sheesh again.  But, it was my own decision to go back in the closet and do conversion therapy and move back to Oklahoma.  That made my life sheesh.  It didn't have to be.

I had a couple of good years (the end of 2009, 2010, and 2011) before my life went to sheesh again.  But, it was my own decision to go back in the closet and do conversion therapy and move back to Oklahoma.  That made my life sheesh.  It didn't have to be.
I understand, I know what is like wanting to please your parents even if that means sacrificing your own happiness. I know we kind of went into personal territory but your story really hits home with a lot of us in these boards.

That's exactly how I feel about 2009.
Me to. 2009 started to feel dated to me around 2013 since by that point 2000s culture was pretty dead.

2009 is still fresh in my memory.

Reviving this thread sorry

But now we’re in late 2020 and 2009 feels very dated actually

One of my favorite music videos from the late 2000s (specifically 2009) looks very dated today

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Reviving this thread sorry

But now we’re in late 2020 and 2009 feels very dated actually

One of my favorite music videos from the late 2000s (specifically 2009) looks very dated today

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Yeah that 2009 - 2012 electronic dance pop sound is starting to sound dated. Not extremely dated but you notice its there for sure.  That sound hasn't really aged well. In 10 years it will sound like the '80s sound today, very dated that didn't age well. Even '90s and 2000s music has aged well because even though the sound is different it still sounds cool in a way.

Yeah that 2009 - 2012 electronic dance pop sound is starting to sound dated. Not extremely dated but you notice its there for sure.  That sound hasn't really aged well. In 10 years it will sound like the '80s sound today, very dated that didn't age well. Even '90s and 2000s music has aged well because even though the sound is different it still sounds cool in a way.


I was 11 years old when this video dropped and I remember 2009 very well. Someone on here said that people close to our age don’t really feel how old some things truly are because we lived through it while someone born in 2006/2007 who was only 4/3 in 2009 and vaguely remembers it probably feels like this is super old since they can barley remember the era they were born in.

I actually like the early 2010s sound so I don’t get where this whole “hasn’t aged well” vibe some people bring up is coming from. Idk maybe I just like recent music more then others such as yourself lol

It’s not just the sound to this song it’s the whole video format and the style of the clothes and video. 

HD looks pretty dated now compared to the 4K ultra of today’s music videos

This song was pretty popular in some countries in 2010, and it sounds so 2000s(albeit late but still).

Reviving this thread sorry

But now we’re in late 2020 and 2009 feels very dated actually

2019 feels dated as well, almost like it's around the same time as 2009.

2019 feels dated as well, almost like it's around the same time as 2009.

Well 2020 is like 2009 on steroids - '09 had the H1N1 pandemic,  economic crisis, new president (maybe in 2020 too), new music showing up with still some '00s leftovers, etc.

For me 2009 feels like ages ago but for personal reasons.

Back then I was married and the recession hadn’t hit us yet and we were doing well. It was practically the year without a summer and my mom was still in Florida but moved back fall 2009. Gas was over $4 a gallon but we managed and I was modifying my car for better mileage. It wasn’t until 2011 that my kid’s mom took me to court and destroyed me financially and my marriage went with it.

Since then I’ve been through a lot. Went through a few relationships that lasted multiple years each. Moved out of the house I owned for 17 years and got a new one, but next month I’ll have been here for 5 years already. Not only did I have to deal with the child court settlement for 8 years, but after that my kid has been graduated and moved out for a year and a half. Been through tons of medical stuff and 2 major surgeries.

Compared that to 1999-2010, back then I had very few big changes and that was the birth of my kid, and going from one marriage partner to another. Same job, same house, pretty much the same life.

Well 2020 is like 2009 on steroids - '09 had the H1N1 pandemic,  economic crisis, new president (maybe in 2020 too), new music showing up with still some '00s leftovers, etc.


Now I'm having a Deja Vu moment of November 2008. The feeling of the light at the end of the tunnel and hope for the future. 2008 was still much better though, economic crisis aside.

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A mashup made in 2009 about 2009, you can’t get more late 2000s then this video on YouTube

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A mashup made in 2009 about 2009, you can’t get more late 2000s then this video on YouTube

In my opinion though, I would say that 2009 is a lot more culturally early 2010s than late 2000s.

In my opinion though, I would say that 2009 is a lot more culturally early 2010s than late 2000s.


2009 is still 2000s so it counts.

It was made before it was even 2010. 2009 is literally the most late 2000s year since it’s the last one.

This “2009 is early 2010s” trend gotta die cause it lowkey makes no sense tbh