You were saying that the inauguration of Obama wasn't enough to differentiate 2009 from the Bush2000s, correct? I agree that was related to the original topic.
This is where you mention Y2K. This comment was relevant to the original topic as well. It clearly shows why you believe Y2K could be considered a valuable measurement to access how 2009 was "more or less 2000s."

However, in the mist of this, began a conversation about the first year of Y2K. You proposed that Y2K officially began in 1999 and John T. argued that it officially began in 1997.

If you were to expand on your original comment about Y2K ("pop culture from 1999 - 2001 wouldn't have been old until 2011"), you two would essentially be in agreement.  If the pop culture of 1999 was outdated in 2011, then that means the pop culture of 1997 would've been outdated in 2011 as well. So why is it important to argue the first year of Y2K in relation to the original topic? Whether you begin the era in 1997 or 1999, you yourself would presumably believe that both years were outdated by 2011. John T., beginning the Y2K era earlier than you shouldn't change your stance.

If you take issue with John T.'s start date of Y2K because the pop culture of 1997 would've been outdated before 2011 (considering 1997 is older than 1999), you have also said this:

So, I don't think it matters. According to the comment, pop culture that was popular in 1996 - 1998 remained popular throughout 1999 - 2001. I am just trying to figure out how the first year of Y2K is relevant to whether or not 2009 was more 2000s or more 2010s.

Btw, If I recall correctly, John T. differentiates between the Y2K era and the early 2000s. Y2K doesn't necessarily equate to the early 2000s.



The y2k era is consists 3 years of the 90s  1997 1998 & 1999  and consist of 2 2000s years    2000 & half of 2001


Part of the early 2000s continues the y2k era, and ends shortly before 9/11



Like I stated Backstreet Boys, TRL, shiny fashion, crimped hair are all things that were big in y2k era and that started with 1997.
Movies like I know what you did last summer started in 97 as well.  The y2k era had a fashion that all got its start in 1997, it was
very popular as well due to the death of grunge in late 96. Yes 1997 may have beta elements but its still a y2k year.

80s-90s Transition (Fall of Soviet Empire)
1989-1990
1990-1991
1991-1992

Prompt Core '90s (pre-Web, Grunge, G-Funk, Neo-Soul, 16-bit console wars)
1992-1993
1993-1994
1994-1995

Latter Core '90s (Win95, Third Wave Ska, Alanis Morisette, Early Post-Grunge, 5th gaming gen)
1995-1996
1996-1997
1997-1998

Y2K Era (Princess Pop, Boy Bands, Nu Metal, Eminem, Columbine, Y2K)
1998-1999
1999-2000
2000-2001

Mall Pop Era (post-9/11, Lavigne/Branch/Phair style pop music, Nelly/50/Usher party rap, Emo emergence, 6th gaming gen)
2001-2002
2002-2003
2003-2004

Emo Era
2004-2005
2005-2006
2006-2007

Scene/Electropop Era
2007-2008
2008-2009
2009-2010

Dubstep Era
2010-2011
2011-2012
2012-2013

Political Downturn Era
2013-2014
2014-2015
2015-2016

Political Turmoil Era
2016-2017
2017-2018
2018-2019

I pretty much agree 100% with John Titor, 1997 - 2001ish felt like it's own era and the reasons why have already been stated pretty well in this thread. I also think that 2001 was already becoming pretty disconnected with the late 90s, early 2001 though, still strongly belongs in the Y2K era.

I pretty much agree 100% with John Titor, 1997 - 2001ish felt like it's own era and the reasons why have already been stated pretty well in this thread. I also think that 2001 was already becoming pretty disconnected with the late 90s, early 2001 though, still strongly belongs in the Y2K era.


This, It can really been pin pointed very minimaly, Starts in Jan 1997 when Spice Girls Wannabe debuts in the United States on MTV, and ends June/July 2001 Around the time WWF vs WCW Invasion started/Shrek out in theaters/Teen pop fades off the air waves


^ thats the real time line,  but for something more accurate  lets just Say Fall 1997- 9/11/01
it's a better way of aligning the time frame with important culture shifts. I know people like to say y2k was
still going until 9/11 but it was actually gone before the Fall 2001 school season, but its sounds better to
say that it ended on 9/11 pop culturally.

This, It can really been pin pointed very minimaly, Starts in Jan 1997 with Spice Girls Wannabe debuts in the United States on MTV, and ends June/July 2001 Around the time WWF vs WCW Invasion started/Shrek out in theaters/Teen pop fades off the air waves


^ thats the real time line,  but for something more accurate  lets just Say Fall 1997- 9/11/01
it's a better way of aligning the time frame with important culture shifts.
How do you account for "Wannabe" was released in the UK in July 1996?

How do you account for "Wannabe" was released in the UK in July 1996?



Yeah thats the thing you guys got Spice Girls, Nsync and Backsteet boys before we did, you also had Take That
which started the teen pop era before us, The UKs timeline of pop culture is ahead by one or 2 years.


Not quite sure of the UK timeline, I would have to say y2k era in UK started July 1996 and ended 2002 or 2003.
I know you guys over there  had your teen pop era last longer than ours, lots of Euro music as well. The charts were
very different in the UK than they were in the United States.

1997: Hybrid

1998: Largely Y2K

1999-2000: Pure Y2K

2001-2002: Hybrid

1997: Hybrid

1998: Largely Y2K

1999-2000: Pure Y2K

2001-2002: Hybrid



2002 had nothing y2k at all

2002 had nothing y2k at all
Early 02 did: wwe was still  wwf, Game boy color was still commercially relevant along with the gba,  UPN still had their classic logo from 95,  Fox kids on its dying days, sabrina and buffy was still airing new episodes.

Early 02 did: wwe was still  wwf, Game boy color was still commercially relevant along with the gba,  UPN still had their classic logo from 95,  Fox kids on its dying days, sabrina and buffy was still airing new episodes.


You are talking to the person who remembers the 2001-2002 year like its yesterday lol
The only thing y2k I can think of is WWF still having the old Raw Is War entrance stage and not being WWE yet, UPN actually changed their logo
in 99 to a more metal finish, Fox kids was already toast by early 2001 despite lasting until first week of September 2002,  Sabrina and Buffy by 02 were a joke
and thats why it got canceled by 03.

Early 02 did: wwe was still  wwf, Game boy color was still commercially relevant along with the gba,  UPN still had their classic logo from 95,  Fox kids on its dying days, sabrina and buffy was still airing new episodes.


But despite that, the y2k feeling was gone by August 2001, no one was listening to Teen Pop, and a lot of the y2k fashions were gone before December 2001.
Music Videos got colder looking, blue and grey hues as opposed to Shiny and metallic.  There may have been a FEW things aesthetic wise that may have remained from y2k era, but the mood and vibe was completely different.

It's the same thing as 2009, it looks 2000s due to the fashion on its last leg, but the mood was completely different than what the pictures show.
Fashions of September 2001- June 2002 aren't going morph because of 9/11 right away, but the mood did, and its hard to see the mood in pictures
without listenting to some of the music that came out like Michelle Branch, Vanessa Carlton, Nelly's Hot in Here, Shakira etc  as opposed to Nysnc & Backstreet boys which were pretty much almost done at that point ( I know bsb came back in 2005) Vibe was like a total 180 of the past few years we went thru, it was like more adult. I get what you mean tho.

Early 02 did: wwe was still  wwf, Game boy color was still commercially relevant along with the gba,  UPN still had their classic logo from 95,  Fox kids on its dying days, sabrina and buffy was still airing new episodes.


None of that was enough for Fall 2001 and onward to be considered as the Y2K era. We all know there were still Y2K influences and even late 90's influences that lasted through 2002 and even 2003, but the main cultural era was already over.

and TBH 2001 as a whole is borderline Y2K era because there were a bunch of 2000's trends and pop culture that started that year. Early 2000's but still ended up being core to the main 2000's culture. The movies that came out throughout 2001 such as Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, The Fast and the Furious, and Shrek were defining 2000's moments. Bush becoming president which meant Clinton leaving office. Windows XP coming out which marked the end of the Windows NT series (Windows 2000 was the last one). I could go on and on.

and TBH 2001 as a whole is borderline Y2K era because there were a bunch of 2000's trends and pop culture that started that year. Early 2000's but still ended up being core to the main 2000's culture. The movies that came out throughout 2001 such as Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, The Fast and the Furious, and Shrek were defining 2000's moments. Bush becoming president which meant Clinton leaving office. Windows XP coming out which marked the end of the Windows NT series (Windows 2000 was the last one). I could go on and on.


its funny the defining 2000s things started after 9/11

its a good cut off point for culture, altho the y2k faded out in Aug 2001

its funny the defining 2000s things started after 9/11

its a good cut off point for culture, altho the y2k faded out in Aug 2001


No my point is even before 9/11 a lot 2000's defining things started! Most I have listed happened before 9/11. But you're right tho more 2000's defining culture happened after 9/11 too. 2001 was a transitional year.

Once again, I was in school in 97 I remember the change over


1997

Beavis & Butthead Ends ( a Gen X show)
Daria Starts  (A Gen y Spin off)
MTV TRL debuts as MTV LIVE
Backstreet boys USA  debut
Hanson Debuts
Spice Girls USA  debut
MTV declares Generation X is over and Gen y is being marketed to
A Pepsi commercial flaunting Generation Y as Generation Next
Family Matters & Step by Step move away from ABC TGIF and to CBS's block party  (TGIF's ratings never recover)
Austin Powers debuts that Fall
Shiny clothing becomes popular
Shiny Suit era starts with Mase and Puff Daddy
WWF starts the Attitude era, RAW changes its logo and theme.
SNES and Sega Genesis become irrelevant as PS1 & N64 battle it out
Seinfeld episode tapes and the episode is about Y2k
South Park debuts
King of the Hill debuts


that is the y2k era, also 1997 is when fashions you would see in 1997 1998 1999 2000 and early 2001 got there start.
The mid 90's was shifting out very fast, it was not a mid 90s year it felt very different.


I graduated high school in '97, so it's funny how not only my life was going through changes, but the culture was too.

I graduated high school in '97, so it's funny how not only my life was going through changes, but the culture was too.


What was highschool like back then ? I was in elementary


I remember visiting a highschool in like 1999 twice

Early 02 did: wwe was still  wwf, Game boy color was still commercially relevant along with the gba,  UPN still had their classic logo from 95,  Fox kids on its dying days, sabrina and buffy was still airing new episodes.


I never really got how a logo change indicates a shift.

I never really got how a logo change indicates a shift.


Exactly, I was in middle school in late 01 I remember how it was then, The y2k was Dead on arrival in August 2001, Nothing y2k about that second half of the year  beyond a few hair styles, a few makeup trends and a few devices like Sony Vaio computers, Teen pop was dead by 9/11. I was on another forum and literally SCREAMED at someone because they said 2001 was 100% y2k era, then I found out they were born in 2002 lol !

There is something about living inside of the 2000s world that can never be replicated by just talking how it was back then.

All im saying is that 2002 wasn't that disconnected from the late 90s  when a lot of stuff from the late 90s were still relevant in 02. I'm remember people saying last year on this site that early 02 still had the skater punk fahison going on which started in the late 90s, Dial-up was still very much a thing in 02 with broadband slowing rising.  People make everything after late 2001 as a completely different world from a few years prior.  I get that 9/11 changed a lot things in American culture but lets not pretend that the 2000s was already starting have its own identity even in 2000 (which was the quetiesstial y2k year). In 2000 you had the launch of the ps2, launch of survivor (which kicked off the reality tv boom), the debut of the rapper Nelly,  the debut of Ludacris, Pokemon Gold and Sliver,  Bush being elected,  Bratz dolls, etc all which became trademarks of the decade had already started in 2000.

These school years

1999-00, and 2000-01 especially considering that Y2K itself is a synonym for the year 2000.

I have to disagree with 1997 and '98 being part of the Y2K period. If we all take a look at fashion, video games, films, TV shows, technology, and the music of that time, it was pretty much 90s at best. Yeah, South Park and Daria began in 1997, but people still had the Simpsons to look forward to with new episodes coming out. Backstreet Boys, Hanson, and the Spice Girls may have debuted in '97, but there was still tons of songs coming from the likes of Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Elton John, and others. Family Matters & Step by Step may have been on their way out, but shows such as Beverly Hills 90210, Seinfeld, Baywatch, Walker, Texas Ranger, Boy Meets World, Home Improvement, and The Nanny was still in-demand. People also wore overalls, which was one of the significant clothing throughout the 90s. I can't quite understand how some people tend to forget what was still trendy at that time and only look at the next big thing to define a year. They're missing the overall picture.


I get that 9/11 changed a lot of things in American culture but let's not pretend that the 2000s did not have its own identity in 2000 (which was the quintessential y2k year). In 2000 you had the launch of the ps2, launch of survivor (which kicked off the reality tv boom), the debut of the rapper Nelly,  the debut of Ludacris, Pokemon Gold and Sliver,  Bush being elected,  Bratz dolls, etc all which became trademarks of the decade had already started in 2000.
This is all correct. I have also observed on how people forget that survivor was actually a hit during its early days. That was one of the most watched shows on CBS during that time. Not only that, the 6th generation had already begun due to the Sega Dreamcast released a year prior with a bunch of games coming out in 2000. Plus, there was also Eminem and the other reality show Big Brother that was just as marketable as the Pokemania fad.

These school years

1999-00, and 2000-01 especially considering that Y2K itself is a synonym for the year 2000.

I have to disagree with 1997 and '98 being part of the Y2K period. If we all take a look at fashion, video games, films, TV shows, technology, and the music of that time, it was pretty much 90s at best. Yeah, South Park and Daria began in 1997, but people still had the Simpsons to look forward to with new episodes coming out. Backstreet Boys, Hanson, and the Spice Girls may have debuted in '97, but there was still tons of songs coming from the likes of Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Elton John, and others. Family Matters & Step by Step may have been on their way out, but shows such as Beverly Hills 90210, Seinfeld, Baywatch, Walker, Texas Ranger, Boy Meets World, Home Improvement, and The Nanny was still in-demand. People also wore overalls, which was one of the significant clothing throughout the 90s. I can't quite understand how some people tend to forget what was still trendy at that time and only look at the next big thing to define a year. They're missing the overall picture.
This is all correct. I have also observed on how people forget that survivor was actually a hit during its early days. That was one of the most watched shows on CBS during that time. Not only that, the 6th generation had already begun due to the Sega Dreamcast released a year prior with a bunch of games coming out in 2000. Plus, there was also Eminem and the other reality show Big Brother that was just as marketable as the Pokemania fad.



False, The simpsons started it's decline in 1997 with the Fake Principle Skinner episode, a lot of people started to stop watching during that period, google when did the simpsons decline,  The Nanny was on the  way out. TGIF was on STEEP decline in the 97-98 year, so much that ABC wanted to make another Full House and paid for the Olsen Twins to star in a new show on TGIF in 99.  The Spice girls changed everything, everyone started to make poppier kind of music, yes there was still mid 90s artists, but they were old news.


PS2 was not even in peoples houses until October 2001, few few people got a  ps2 in October 2000, Sony released more to combat the shortages later in 2001, Sega Dreamcast is largely seen as a 99- early 2001 console and a y2k one at that. Pokemon was dead by Late 2001, People stopped watching After Silver came out (around the time of the Wompa Fet era) Trust me no one was checking for Pokemon in late 2001, it was all about Yugioh, and even then Yugioh was not as popular, WWF declined in late 2000 but the drop off happened when the y2k era ended in like May 2001- Aug 2001, when the Rock left to do movies. Dragon Ball Z fell the F off in December  2001, shortly after Goku & Pikon were fighting in hell, trust me DBZ hype was down at this time.

These school years

1999-00, and 2000-01 especially considering that Y2K itself is a synonym for the year 2000.

I have to disagree with 1997 and '98 being part of the Y2K period. If we all take a look at fashion, video games, films, TV shows, technology, and the music of that time, it was pretty much 90s at best. Yeah, South Park and Daria began in 1997, but people still had the Simpsons to look forward to with new episodes coming out. Backstreet Boys, Hanson, and the Spice Girls may have debuted in '97, but there was still tons of songs coming from the likes of Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Elton John, and others. Family Matters & Step by Step may have been on their way out, but shows such as Beverly Hills 90210, Seinfeld, Baywatch, Walker, Texas Ranger, Boy Meets World, Home Improvement, and The Nanny was still in-demand. People also wore overalls, which was one of the significant clothing throughout the 90s. I can't quite understand how some people tend to forget what was still trendy at that time and only look at the next big thing to define a year. They're missing the overall picture.
This is all correct. I have also observed on how people forget that survivor was actually a hit during its early days. That was one of the most watched shows on CBS during that time. Not only that, the 6th generation had already begun due to the Sega Dreamcast released a year prior with a bunch of games coming out in 2000. Plus, there was also Eminem and the other reality show Big Brother that was just as marketable as the Pokemania fad.
If 9\11 hadn't happened, I guarantee 2000 would be just an early 2000s year rather than a Y2K year. 2000 pretty much laid the foundation of what's to come for the new decade and the new millennium. 2000 was also the year Midnight Club 1 came out, the start of the Bring it on movie series and the Scary Movie series, Chicken Run released and it kicked off the Dreamworks boom period (where every year they come out with a hit movie),  X-men 1 came out,  the year the rapper Bow Wow became a household name and pretty much stayed relevant the entire decade, The year Kobe Bryant was in his prime with winning his first championiship and continue to dominate the whole decade in the NBA. Triple HHH became a dominate heel in the wwe and continue to be become the ultimate bad-guy for much of the 00s. I think 2000 while it felt very late 90s  you had tons of 2000s stuff that were already starting to happen that year.

All im saying is that 2002 wasn't that disconnected from the late 90s  when a lot of stuff from the late 90s were still relevant in 02. I'm remember people saying last year on this site that early 02 still had the skater punk fahison going on which started in the late 90s, Dial-up was still very much a thing in 02 with broadband slowing rising.  People make everything after late 2001 as a completely different world from a few years prior.  I get that 9/11 changed a lot things in American culture but lets not pretend that the 2000s was already starting have its own identity even in 2000 (which was the quetiesstial y2k year). In 2000 you had the launch of the ps2, launch of survivor (which kicked off the reality tv boom), the debut of the rapper Nelly,  the debut of Ludacris, Pokemon Gold and Sliver,  Bush being elected,  Bratz dolls, etc all which became trademarks of the decade had already started in 2000.



Here are some observations for the 2001-2002 school year


- Pokemon no longer popular  (Drop off happened a month after Silver came out)
- Dragon Ball Z's popularity goes down, shortly after the Pikkon Goku fight (It wasn't a huge drop off but trust me it was there)
- Yugioh trys to take Pokemons place and fails
- Toonami Brand is tarnished by a kids WB version of the block
-Teen pop is dead (Backstreet boys take a break, Britney goes urban)
- WWF's ratings sinking even more, WWF ends the Alliance story line early
- Music Videos take on a cold grey hue
- Party Line has a small revival
- mid 2002 started the brand extension era
- HHH was a heel yes but his reign would start in late 2002 when he would be hated the most
- Xmas was the Xbox vs Gamecube vs PS2 war, it officially kicked off
-DVD hype is real for late 2001 due to ps2
- At this time Nintendo backlash was real (beyond GBA, people like that)
- Windows XP becomes the standard
- MTV 2 is added to many cable systems in the North East (it was a big deal )
- Multiplex channels explode, Cinemax, HBO, Starz (they were popular in the the 90s but got more popular in the early 2000s )
- Disney Channel blows up in late 2001, mostly due to Even Stevens & Lizzy.
-Spongebob blows up in late 2001 despite debuting in 99
-Digital Cable becomes widespread (altho it would take 2 more years to catch on)
- Digimon's popularity falls OFF during Season 3 (no movie, lack of commercials)
- Fox kids is bought by ABC in 2001 and the FOX KIDs lineup gets screwed around with until getting canceled for FOX BOX in late 2002.
- Power Rangers is canceled, has a special episode with every Red Ranger that ever existed ( Abc/Disney would change their mind in December 2002 and reinstate it)

If 9\11 hadn't happened, I guarantee 2000 would be just an early 2000s year rather than a Y2K year. 2000 pretty much laid the foundation of what's to come for the new decade and the new millennium. 2000 was also the year Midnight Club 1 came out, the start of the Bring it on movie series and the Scary Movie series, Chicken Run released and it kicked off the Dreamworks boom period (where every year they come out with a hit movie),  X-men 1 came out,  the year the rapper Bow Wow became a household name and pretty much stayed relevant the entire decade, The year Kobe Bryant was in his prime with winning his first championship and continue to dominate the whole decade in the NBA. Triple HHH became a dominant heel in the WWF and continue to become the ultimate bad-guy for much of the 00s. I think 2000 while it felt the very late 90s  you had tons of 2000s stuff that were already starting to happen that year.
All of that too! I never see those movie series, the Kobe Bryant era or even the Dreamworks age mentioned in any posts either. It's honestly interesting how people forget that 2000 started a ton of trends that came to define the era later on.


False, The Simpsons started its decline in 1997 with the Fake Principle Skinner episode, a lot of people started to stop watching during that period, google when did the Simpsons decline. The Nanny was on the way out. TGIF was on the STEEP decline in the 97-98 year, so much that ABC wanted to make another Full House and paid for the Olsen Twins to star in a new show on TGIF in 99.  The Spice girls changed everything, everyone started to make poppier kind of music, yes there was still mid 90s artists, but they were old news.

PS2 was not even in peoples houses until October 2001, few people got a  ps2 in October 2000, Sony released more to combat the shortages later in 2001, Sega Dreamcast is largely seen as a 99- early 2001 console and a y2k one at that. Pokemon was dead by Late 2001, People stopped watching After Silver came out (around the time of the Wompa Fet era) Trust me no one was checking for Pokemon in late 2001, it was all about Yugioh, and even then Yugioh was not as popular, WWF declined in late 2000 but the drop off happened when the y2k era ended in like May 2001- Aug 2001, when the Rock left to do movies. Dragon Ball Z fell the F off in December  2001, shortly after Goku & Pikon were fighting in hell, trust me DBZ hype was down at this time.
The Simpsons may have declined, but that doesn't mean the show was going to end. What about the other shows I brought up? Were they not important in that period you tend to love so much? Besides, TGIF was not the only block everyone watched. How were mid 90s artists yesterday news? You seem to underestimate the late 90s music while ignoring the rest. Spice Girls were not the only groups or artists that defined that era.

Mwalker is still correct though. the 00s pretty much began in the Y2K year. You're only focusing on what was popular from previous years and not what also started around that same time.

All of that too! I never see those movie series, the Kobe Bryant era or even the Dreamworks age mentioned in any posts either. It's honestly interesting how people forget that 2000 started a ton of trends that came to define the era later on.
The Simpsons may have declined, but that doesn't mean the show was going to end. What about the other shows I brought up? Were they not important in that period you tend to love so much? Besides, TGIF was not the only block everyone watched. How were mid 90s artists yesterday news? You seem to underestimate the late 90s music while ignoring the rest. Spice Girls were not the only groups or artists that defined that era.

Mwalker is still correct though. the 00s pretty much began in the Y2K year. You're only focusing on what was popular from previous years and not what also started around that same time.



simpsons had massive ratings drop offs after that episode, TGIF was a staple of the 90s tho and when it declined it was really a sign of those times. I am saying yes there was mid 90s artists in 97 but the USA was more focused on the new up and coming pop acts.


Not true the period of late 2001-2002 is the period where early 2000s trends started.  Ok 2000 had Survior ok cool thats about it.

The Simpsons had massive rating drop-offs after that episode, TGIF was a staple of the 90s tho and when it declined it was really a sign of those times. I am saying yes there was mid 90s artists in 97 but the USA was more focused on the new up and coming pop acts.

Not true the period of late 2001-2002 is the period where early 2000s trends started.  Ok, 2000 had Survivor ok cool that's about it.
But among who though? The general consensus is that the Simpsons had a golden age for the first 10 years and then a silver age after that. Again, ABC wasn't the only watched channel at that time. What about NBC, CBS, Fox and even the WB? Those networks had just as many fair and likable shows like the ones on ABC.

You're still missing the point. There are some things Mwalker said that were trending in 2001-02 that can be traced back to the year 2000.

But among who though? The general consensus is that the Simpsons had a golden age for the first 10 years and then a silver age after that. Again, ABC wasn't the only watched channel at that time. What about NBC, CBS, Fox and even the WB? Those networks had just as many fair and likable shows like the ones on ABC.

You're still missing the point. There are some things Mwalker said that were trending in 2001-02 that can be traced back to the year 2000.


Reality shows? That was a thing that was started in 90s, it gained more traction in 99 with shows like Making The band.
Not  many things in 2000 were still relevant in late 2001. The WB was losing popularity in 2001 because of Cartoon Network
& Nick. It was semi popular but not to the heights it was before, even CN was damaged a bit because of Toonami Oversaturation
on The Wb. CBS was dead in 2001 minus Everyone loves Raymond and Survivor. FOX on the other hand was doing VERY WELL
minus its kids programming, with the likes of Bernie Mac & Malcolm in the Middle saving it's Sunday Night lineup.




Early 2001 yes, but late 2001 no, Super hero movies didn't even become a staple UNTIL  Spideman 1 in 2002.
X-men had hype but it was not like Spiderman, The amount of super hero movies that popped up after that are astounding.

Teen Comedies were a thing in 1999, American Pie 1, even before that in 1997, Cant hardly wait, etc

Something that I find funny, WWF was in the news around June 2001- Aug 2001
right when the y2k era ended, and the same time the Attitude era was ending.

Many reports about WWFs ratings plummeting around the same time the Y2k era came to a close.
I would say this was a HUGE sign the y2k era was about to be over,along with the teen pop fading out.

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Reality shows? That was a thing that was started in 90s, it gained more traction in 99 with shows like Making The band.
Not  many things in 2000 were still relevant in late 2001. The WB was losing popularity in 2001 because of Cartoon Network
& Nick. It was semi popular but not to the heights it was before, even CN was damaged a bit because of Toonami Oversaturation
on The Wb. CBS was dead in 2001 minus Everyone loves Raymond and Survivor. FOX on the other hand was doing VERY WELL
minus its kids programming, with the likes of Bernie Mac & Malcolm in the Middle saving it's Sunday Night lineup.




Early 2001 yes, but late 2001 no, Super hero movies didn't even become a staple UNTIL  Spideman 1 in 2002.
X-men had hype but it was not like Spiderman, The amount of super hero movies that popped up after that are astounding.

Teen Comedies were a thing in 1999, American Pie 1, even before that in 1997, Cant hardly wait, etc


Making the Band actually premiered in 2000.

Survivor also premiered in 2000, and that ushered in the age of Reality TV.

Reality shows? That was a thing that was started in the 90s, it gained more traction in 99 with shows like Making The Band.
Not many things in 2000 were still relevant in late 2001. The WB was losing popularity in 2001 because of Cartoon Network
& Nick. It was semi-popular but not to the heights it was before, even CN was damaged a bit because of Toonami Oversaturation
on The WB. CBS was dead in 2001 minus Everyone loves Raymond and Survivor. FOX, on the other hand, was doing VERY WELL
minus its kids' programming, with the likes of Bernie Mac & Malcolm in the Middle saving it's Sunday Night lineup.

Early 2001 yes, but late 2001 no, Superhero movies didn't even become a staple UNTIL  Spiderman 1 in 2002.
X-men had hype but it was not like Spiderman, The number of superhero movies that popped up after that is astounding.

Teen Comedies were a thing in 1999, American Pie 1, even before that in 1997, Cant hardly wait, etc
There was barely any reality shows prior to 2000 except for the Real World and Cops. As T-Rex and Mwalker stated, Survivor was the one that brought them into popularity.

Hold on, we were talking about TGIF in 1997. How did we go from there to discussing the Y2K about of the major 5 channels? I was talking about the status of those networks in 1997.

Oh, and teen comedies have always been a thing. There were some in the 50s to 80s as well.

The changes in 2000 (specifically the later half of the year) are rather forgotten but, it just felt that 1999 and 2001 was a faster change.

List for 1999:
- DVD first kicked off.
- First Sixth Generation Game Console, the Sega Dreamcast.
- The start of more rounder polygon gaming.
- This was the first year when cell phones were very commonplace such as, the Nokia 3210.
- MP3 players first kick off (though, they are not very popular yet overall).
- Napster kicks off the modern age of piracy.
- The Internet continues to boom and is pretty much fully established (even compared to 1997 and 1998)
- The start of Flash Animations such as, Newgrounds.
- In terms of fashion, this was the first year when Y2K fashion completely dominated and mid 90s fashion was dead (1997 and 1998 was a mixture of both eras for fashion)
- For Television, Modern Game shows starts with 'Who Wants to Be a Millionare'. The Golden Age of Television starts with 'The Sopranos'. We also see premiere of Spongebob Squarepants, Family Guy, Futurama, Freeks and Geeks and, alot more shows of course. We saw the end of Home Improvement, Doug and more.
- For movies, The Matrix was a cutting edge and revolutionary film (especially for Special Effects). American Pie fully establishes 2000s styled teen and gross out humor films. 'Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace', is also a cutting edge film and changed the way that CGI was used in films.
- For music, Adult Contemporary and slow Ballad music (such as, Celine Dion and Boyz II Men) declines significantly, this type of music was only really huge for the first half of 1999. This was also the year when Bubblegum Pop really started to rule the charts (despite it already being popular in 1997 and 1998, it was avoidable). For Hip Hop, it was a very inbetween year, Gangsta Rap was still quite popular and Hip Hop artists such as, Naughty by Nature, Warren G and Ice Cube were still very popular (unlike 2000) but, this was also the year when Southern Rap was really starting to take over (this includes Juvenile, Lil Wayne, Mannie Fresh and more) and the Crunk sound was already starting to etablish itself. For Rock music, Nu metal was already fully established, this was the year when Pop-Punk such as, Blink 182, were starting to become very popular.

List for 2001:
- George W. Bush becomes president.
- There was mild recession (this officially ended the 1990s economic boom).
- 9/11 (of course).
- War in Afghanistan starts.
- DVD continues to boom (especially with the Playstation 2).
- The 6th Generation of gaming becomes dominant.
- The Playstation 2 fully establishes itself, with a really good line up of games that year.
- The launch of the Nintendo Gameboy Advance, Nintendo Gamecube and The Original XBOX.
- Video Gaming went through a huge transition, my gaming magazines from 2000 seem so different compared to my 2002 magazines.
- The Ipod is launched (though, no one really had one until like, 2004/05ish).
- Torrenting starts.
- Windows XP is released.
- This was also the first year to be really seperated from the 'primitive era' of the internet. Even in 2000, the Internet was still sorta primitive like it was in the mid-late 1990s.
- For fashion, this was the year when Y2K fashion first started to decline (Y2K fashion was still dominant for the most part in 2001), this was also the year when wearing denim really blew up. Overall, fashion didn't change too dramatically in 2001.
- Television didn't change too much either, 2000 was a far more changeful year for television. In 2001 we saw the premiere of shows such as, Alias, Scrubs, Samurai Jack, The Fairly Odd Parents, My Wife and Kids, Fear Factor, Lizzy McGuire and alot more, we also saw the end of 3rd Rock from the Sun.
- 2001 was a huge change for Movies, we saw 'The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring', 'Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone', Shrek, the first 'Fast and the Furious' and alot more films. This was the first year when CGI was pretty much fully dominating film, this was also the first year when 3D computer animation dominated animated films (compared to 2000, when traditional 2D animation was still the standard/dominant).
- Music also went through a very obvious shift in 2001. Bubblegum Pop (such as Boy Bands) were dying off very fast in 2001, compared to 2000 when Bubblegum Pop still ruled the charts. Hip Hop was exploding and started dominating the music charts in 2001 (especially by the end of the year), R&B was also strongly influencing Pop too now. Pop Punk continued to boom, this was really the first year when it had a very heavy presence on the Rock charts.

Also the Dreamworks Age started with 'Antz' and 'The Prince of Egypt' in late 1998. Those two films were huge on release.

The changes in 2000 (specifically the later half of the year) are rather forgotten but, it just felt that 1999 and 2001 was a faster change.

List for 1999:
- DVD first kicked off.
- First Sixth Generation Game Console, the Sega Dreamcast.
- The start of more rounder polygon gaming.
- This was the first year when cell phones were very commonplace such as, the Nokia 3210.
- MP3 players first kick off (though, they are not very popular yet overall).
- Napster kicks off the modern age of piracy.
- The Internet continues to boom and is pretty much fully established (even compared to 1997 and 1998)
- The start of Flash Animations such as, Newgrounds.
- In terms of fashion, this was the first year when Y2K fashion completely dominated and mid 90s fashion was dead (1997 and 1998 was a mixture of both eras for fashion)
- For Television, Modern Game shows starts with 'Who Wants to Be a Millionare'. The Golden Age of Television starts with 'The Sopranos'. We also see premiere of Spongebob Squarepants, Family Guy, Futurama, Freeks and Geeks and, alot more shows of course. We saw the end of Home Improvement, Doug and more.
- For movies, The Matrix was a cutting edge and revolutionary film (especially for Special Effects). American Pie fully establishes 2000s styled teen and gross out humor films. 'Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace', is also a cutting edge film and changed the way that CGI was used in films.
- For music, Adult Contemporary and slow Ballad music (such as, Celine Dion and Boyz II Men) declines significantly, this type of music was only really huge for the first half of 1999. This was also the year when Bubblegum Pop really started to rule the charts (despite it already being popular in 1997 and 1998, it was avoidable). For Hip Hop, it was a very inbetween year, Gangsta Rap was still quite popular and Hip Hop artists such as, Naughty by Nature, Warren G and Ice Cube were still very popular (unlike 2000) but, this was also the year when Southern Rap was really starting to take over (this includes Juvenile, Lil Wayne, Mannie Fresh and more) and the Crunk sound was already starting to etablish itself. For Rock music, Nu metal was already fully established, this was the year when Pop-Punk such as, Blink 182, were starting to become very popular.

List for 2001:
- George W. Bush becomes president.
- There was mild recession (this officially ended the 1990s economic boom).
- 9/11 (of course).
- War in Afghanistan starts.
- DVD continues to boom (especially with the Playstation 2).
- The 6th Generation of gaming becomes dominant.
- The Playstation 2 fully establishes itself, with a really good line up of games that year.
- The launch of the Nintendo Gameboy Advance, Nintendo Gamecube and The Original XBOX.
- Video Gaming went through a huge transition, my gaming magazines from 2000 seem so different compared to my 2002 magazines.
- The Ipod is launched (though, no one really had one until like, 2004/05ish).
- Torrenting starts.
- Windows XP is released.
- This was also the first year to be really seperated from the 'primitive era' of the internet. Even in 2000, the Internet was still sorta primitive like it was in the mid-late 1990s.
- For fashion, this was the year when Y2K fashion first started to decline (Y2K fashion was still dominant for the most part in 2001), this was also the year when wearing denim really blew up. Overall, fashion didn't change too dramatically in 2001.
- Television didn't change too much either, 2000 was a far more changeful year for television. In 2001 we saw the premiere of shows such as, Alias, Scrubs, Samurai Jack, The Fairly Odd Parents, My Wife and Kids, Fear Factor, Lizzy McGuire and alot more, we also saw the end of 3rd Rock from the Sun.
- 2001 was a huge change for Movies, we saw 'The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring', 'Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone', Shrek, the first 'Fast and the Furious' and alot more films. This was the first year when CGI was pretty much fully dominating film, this was also the first year when 3D computer animation dominated animated films (compared to 2000, when traditional 2D animation was still the standard/dominant).
- Music also went through a very obvious shift in 2001. Bubblegum Pop (such as Boy Bands) were dying off very fast in 2001, compared to 2000 when Bubblegum Pop still ruled the charts. Hip Hop was exploding and started dominating the music charts in 2001 (especially by the end of the year), R&B was also strongly influencing Pop too now. Pop Punk continued to boom, this was really the first year when it had a very heavy presence on the Rock charts.

Also the Dreamworks Age started with 'Antz' and 'The Prince of Egypt' in late 1998. Those two films were huge on release.


2000 was a "changing" year that seems overlooked. Here was a thread I had on Popedia about four months ago:

Cultural shifts:
This was the absolute beginning of the reality TV boom. Survivor premieres, and Big Brother finally premieres in the US. (https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/big-brother-20-best-reality-show)

There is no Y2K panic anymore. (https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/classics-rock/y2k-the-new-years-disaster-that-never-happened/)

bchris02's addition to the list:
2000 was also the year that "The Marshall Mathers LP" by Eminem came out. A lot of people underestimate the impact that album had and the fact that it reached a lot of people who weren't traditionally rap fans. I would go as far as to say if it wasn't for that album, the 2000s wouldn't have been as hip-hop focused as they were.

Political shifts:
Bush's victory angered and shocked many people. (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3583882/Bushs-victory-is-the-voice-of-an-angry-America.html)

This was the first year where Republicans were red and Democrats were blue. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/guess-republicans-red-democrats-blue/story?id=43272920)

March 2000 was the absolute start of the Dot Com Bubble burst when the value of NASDAQ's stocks dropped from $6.71 trillion to $6.02 trillion throughout mid and late March. (http://time.com/3741681/2000-dotcom-stock-bust/)

Technological shifts:
Super Bowl 34 was not only the first Super Bowl to use high definition broadcasting, but also the first major sports event to do so. (http://www.espn.com/abcsports/pressreleases/s/2002/0925/1436510.html)

The PS2 comes out. It was the first video game console that allowed people to use DVDs. (https://www.history.com/topics/history-of-video-games)

Reality shows? That was a thing that was started in 90s, it gained more traction in 99 with shows like Making The band.
Not  many things in 2000 were still relevant in late 2001. The WB was losing popularity in 2001 because of Cartoon Network
& Nick. It was semi popular but not to the heights it was before, even CN was damaged a bit because of Toonami Oversaturation
on The Wb. CBS was dead in 2001 minus Everyone loves Raymond and Survivor. FOX on the other hand was doing VERY WELL
minus its kids programming, with the likes of Bernie Mac & Malcolm in the Middle saving it's Sunday Night lineup.




Early 2001 yes, but late 2001 no, Super hero movies didn't even become a staple UNTIL  Spideman 1 in 2002.
X-men had hype but it was not like Spiderman, The amount of super hero movies that popped up after that are astounding.

Teen Comedies were a thing in 1999, American Pie 1, even before that in 1997, Cant hardly wait, etc


Can't Hardly Wait came out in '98, not '97.

The changes in 2000 (specifically the later half of the year) are rather forgotten but, it just felt that 1999 and 2001 was a faster change.

List for 1999:
- DVD first kicked off.
- First Sixth Generation Game Console, the Sega Dreamcast.
- The start of more rounder polygon gaming.
- This was the first year when cell phones were very commonplace such as, the Nokia 3210.
- MP3 players first kick off (though, they are not very popular yet overall).
- Napster kicks off the modern age of piracy.
- The Internet continues to boom and is pretty much fully established (even compared to 1997 and 1998)
- The start of Flash Animations such as, Newgrounds.
- In terms of fashion, this was the first year when Y2K fashion completely dominated and mid 90s fashion was dead (1997 and 1998 was a mixture of both eras for fashion)
- For Television, Modern Game shows starts with 'Who Wants to Be a Millionare'. The Golden Age of Television starts with 'The Sopranos'. We also see premiere of Spongebob Squarepants, Family Guy, Futurama, Freeks and Geeks and, alot more shows of course. We saw the end of Home Improvement, Doug and more.
- For movies, The Matrix was a cutting edge and revolutionary film (especially for Special Effects). American Pie fully establishes 2000s styled teen and gross out humor films. 'Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace', is also a cutting edge film and changed the way that CGI was used in films.
- For music, Adult Contemporary and slow Ballad music (such as, Celine Dion and Boyz II Men) declines significantly, this type of music was only really huge for the first half of 1999. This was also the year when Bubblegum Pop really started to rule the charts (despite it already being popular in 1997 and 1998, it was avoidable). For Hip Hop, it was a very inbetween year, Gangsta Rap was still quite popular and Hip Hop artists such as, Naughty by Nature, Warren G and Ice Cube were still very popular (unlike 2000) but, this was also the year when Southern Rap was really starting to take over (this includes Juvenile, Lil Wayne, Mannie Fresh and more) and the Crunk sound was already starting to etablish itself. For Rock music, Nu metal was already fully established, this was the year when Pop-Punk such as, Blink 182, were starting to become very popular.

List for 2001:
- George W. Bush becomes president.
- There was mild recession (this officially ended the 1990s economic boom).
- 9/11 (of course).
- War in Afghanistan starts.
- DVD continues to boom (especially with the Playstation 2).
- The 6th Generation of gaming becomes dominant.
- The Playstation 2 fully establishes itself, with a really good line up of games that year.
- The launch of the Nintendo Gameboy Advance, Nintendo Gamecube and The Original XBOX.
- Video Gaming went through a huge transition, my gaming magazines from 2000 seem so different compared to my 2002 magazines.
- The Ipod is launched (though, no one really had one until like, 2004/05ish).
- Torrenting starts.
- Windows XP is released.
- This was also the first year to be really seperated from the 'primitive era' of the internet. Even in 2000, the Internet was still sorta primitive like it was in the mid-late 1990s.
- For fashion, this was the year when Y2K fashion first started to decline (Y2K fashion was still dominant for the most part in 2001), this was also the year when wearing denim really blew up. Overall, fashion didn't change too dramatically in 2001.
- Television didn't change too much either, 2000 was a far more changeful year for television. In 2001 we saw the premiere of shows such as, Alias, Scrubs, Samurai Jack, The Fairly Odd Parents, My Wife and Kids, Fear Factor, Lizzy McGuire and alot more, we also saw the end of 3rd Rock from the Sun.
- 2001 was a huge change for Movies, we saw 'The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring', 'Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone', Shrek, the first 'Fast and the Furious' and alot more films. This was the first year when CGI was pretty much fully dominating film, this was also the first year when 3D computer animation dominated animated films (compared to 2000, when traditional 2D animation was still the standard/dominant).
- Music also went through a very obvious shift in 2001. Bubblegum Pop (such as Boy Bands) were dying off very fast in 2001, compared to 2000 when Bubblegum Pop still ruled the charts. Hip Hop was exploding and started dominating the music charts in 2001 (especially by the end of the year), R&B was also strongly influencing Pop too now. Pop Punk continued to boom, this was really the first year when it had a very heavy presence on the Rock charts.

Also the Dreamworks Age started with 'Antz' and 'The Prince of Egypt' in late 1998. Those two films were huge on release.


DVD kicked off in 1997, I was at a Circuit City that had them the same time Tomb Raider 2 came out

The start of more rounder polygon gaming ??? Playstation came out in 95 and n64 in 96, by 1997 all major games were 3d


Cell phones didn't pop off until 2003 the Snake phone

Dreamcast was not adapted as much as you think it was in 1999-2000, I had a Dreamcast, and a ps1 and n64 and more people were waiting for ps2.

The 6th gen didn't really start until Nov 2001, Ps2 had a MAJOR shortage in late 2000 that stopped a lot of people from playing the system, it wasn't until September- October 2001 units were being pushed to the store.  DVD hype started around late 2001 as well because of ps2, despite being sold  in 1997.


You got most 2001 things right tho

There was barely any reality shows prior to 2000 except for the Real World and Cops. As T-Rex and Mwalker stated, Survivor was the one that brought them into popularity.

Hold on, we were talking about TGIF in 1997. How did we go from there to discussing the Y2K about of the major 5 channels? I was talking about the status of those networks in 1997.

Oh, and teen comedies have always been a thing. There were some in the 50s to 80s as well.


The Challenge 1998
Real World 1992
Road Rules  1995

But yeah they did explode in the 2000-2001 year after survivor

DVD kicked off in 1997, I was at a Circuit City that had them the same time Tomb Raider 2 came out

The start of more rounder polygon gaming ??? Playstation came out in 95 and n64 in 96, by 1997 all major games were 3d


Cell phones didn't pop off until 2003 the Snake phone

Dreamcast was not adapted as much as you think it was in 1999-2000, I had a Dreamcast, and a ps1 and n64 and more people were waiting for ps2.

The 6th gen didn't really start until Nov 2001, Ps2 had a MAJOR shortage in late 2000 that stopped a lot of people from playing the system, it wasn't until September- October 2001 units were being pushed to the store.  DVD hype started around late 2001 as well because of ps2, despite being sold  in 1997.


You got most 2001 things right tho


What I meant by more rounded polygons was the 6th Generation of video gaming, the original Playstation and Nintendo 64 had very blocky and square polygon graphics. In comparison to the more rounder /smoother graphics of the Playstation 2, Original XBOX and Nintendo Gamecube. By 1999, PC and Arcade gaming were already adopting more rounder/smoother video game graphics which, you would later see in the 6th Generation of Video Gaming. You're 100% right about the Dreamcast, barely anyone had one but, I thought it kinda worth mentioning.

This may be an unpopular opinion but, I think 2001 was 50/50 inbetween 5th and 6th Generation gaming. I don't remember anyone caring about the original Playstation in 2001, the only 5th Gen game console that people really cared about that year was the Nintendo 64. Playstation 2 wouldn't have its huge line up of games until the latter half of 2001 and, all the other popular 6th Gen game consoles didn't come out until late 2001.

1999 was also the earliest year I remember some people buying DVDs but, overall, DVD was still very unpopular in 1999. The first year when DVD was legit popular though, was definitely 2001 (specifically after Christmas 2000).

2000 was a "changing" year that seems overlooked. Here was a thread I had on Popedia about four months ago:

Cultural shifts:
This was the absolute beginning of the reality TV boom. Survivor premieres, and Big Brother finally premieres in the US. (https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/big-brother-20-best-reality-show)

There is no Y2K panic anymore. (https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/classics-rock/y2k-the-new-years-disaster-that-never-happened/)

bchris02's addition to the list:
2000 was also the year that "The Marshall Mathers LP" by Eminem came out. A lot of people underestimate the impact that album had and the fact that it reached a lot of people who weren't traditionally rap fans. I would go as far as to say if it wasn't for that album, the 2000s wouldn't have been as hip-hop focused as they were.

Political shifts:
Bush's victory angered and shocked many people. (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3583882/Bushs-victory-is-the-voice-of-an-angry-America.html)

This was the first year where Republicans were red and Democrats were blue. (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/guess-republicans-red-democrats-blue/story?id=43272920)

March 2000 was the absolute start of the Dot Com Bubble burst when the value of NASDAQ's stocks dropped from $6.71 trillion to $6.02 trillion throughout mid and late March. (http://time.com/3741681/2000-dotcom-stock-bust/)

Technological shifts:
Super Bowl 34 was not only the first Super Bowl to use high definition broadcasting, but also the first major sports event to do so. (http://www.espn.com/abcsports/pressreleases/s/2002/0925/1436510.html)

The PS2 comes out. It was the first video game console that allowed people to use DVDs. (https://www.history.com/topics/history-of-video-games)


There was a bit of a shift in 2000 and, it doesn't get enough credit. Television changed quite a lot in 2000, that was the year when Reality TV and modern crime investigation shows blew up. Survivor just seemed like another show when it premiered that not too many people I know even cared about at the time but, by the finale EVERYONE was watching it, the viewership for Survivor grew very fast.

About the Marshall Mathers LP, it most likely did lay the foundations to why the 2000s were so dominated by Hip Hop, Eminem really attracted a new white crowd to listen to Hip Hop. I would say the impact of the Marshall Mathers LP was already happening before it was release with the single 'The Real Slim Shady', the song was played so much on MTV, pretty much immediately after it was released. Though, the minor problem with this, is that Hip Hop still wasn't that big for most of 2000 (with the exception of the late part of the year) when you look back on the Hot 100, its popularity was pretty much unchanged compared to 1999.

The 2000 election was a huge deal and was pretty much the first event that led to the decline of the 1990s optimism.

For the Dot Com Bubble, it did to its impact but, people really overrate its impact at the time, it was the event that led to the 2001 recession, it was very mild compared to the 1990 - 1991 recession and 2008 - 2009 recession though.

For technological shifts, the Playstation 2 was released and it was the fastest selling game console at the time. The Nokia 3310 was released and still has its influence today on cellphones. The year when the Pentium 4 processor was released and the first processor to pass 1GHz, the Optical Mouse first started to pop up too. There were obviously a bit more changes.

Overall, you are right about there being a shift in 2000 but, I kinda felt the shift was kinda overshadowed by the years around it. I just consider 1997 - 2001 as just its own era.

I'll bite.....



Spring 1997 through Autumn 1998 constitute the Late 1990s


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Winter 1998/1999 through Summer 2001 constitute the 'Y2K Era'

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Autumn 2001 through Winter 2003/2004 constitute the Early 2000s


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This entire period of the Late 90s & Early 00s is also known as the 'Millennium Era' or 'The End of History', if taking Y2K into account ;D.

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There was a bit of a shift in 2000 and, it doesn't get enough credit. Television changed quite a lot in 2000, that was the year when Reality TV and modern crime investigation shows blew up. Survivor just seemed like another show when it premiered that not too many people I know even cared about at the time but, by the finale EVERYONE was watching it, the viewership for Survivor grew very fast.

About the Marshall Mathers LP, it most likely did lay the foundations to why the 2000s were so dominated by Hip Hop, Eminem really attracted a new white crowd to listen to Hip Hop. I would say the impact of the Marshall Mathers LP was already happening before it was release with the single 'The Real Slim Shady', the song was played so much on MTV, pretty much immediately after it was released. Though, the minor problem with this, is that Hip Hop still wasn't that big for most of 2000 (with the exception of the late part of the year) when you look back on the Hot 100, its popularity was pretty much unchanged compared to 1999.

The 2000 election was a huge deal and was pretty much the first event that led to the decline of the 1990s optimism.

For the Dot Com Bubble, it did to its impact but, people really overrate its impact at the time, it was the event that led to the 2001 recession, it was very mild compared to the 1990 - 1991 recession and 2008 - 2009 recession though.

For technological shifts, the Playstation 2 was released and it was the fastest selling game console at the time. The Nokia 3310 was released and still has its influence today on cellphones. The year when the Pentium 4 processor was released and the first processor to pass 1GHz, the Optical Mouse first started to pop up too. There were obviously a bit more changes.

Overall, you are right about there being a shift in 2000 but, I kinda felt the shift was kinda overshadowed by the years around it. I just consider 1997 - 2001 as just its own era.


Yupp, the changes that would happen in late 2001 pretty much overshadow everything

There was a bit of a shift in 2000 and, it doesn't get enough credit. Television changed quite a lot in 2000, that was the year when Reality TV and modern crime investigation shows blew up. Survivor just seemed like another show when it premiered that not too many people I know even cared about at the time but, by the finale EVERYONE was watching it, the viewership for Survivor grew very fast.

About the Marshall Mathers LP, it most likely did lay the foundations to why the 2000s were so dominated by Hip Hop, Eminem really attracted a new white crowd to listen to Hip Hop. I would say the impact of the Marshall Mathers LP was already happening before it was release with the single 'The Real Slim Shady', the song was played so much on MTV, pretty much immediately after it was released. Though, the minor problem with this, is that Hip Hop still wasn't that big for most of 2000 (with the exception of the late part of the year) when you look back on the Hot 100, its popularity was pretty much unchanged compared to 1999.

The 2000 election was a huge deal and was pretty much the first event that led to the decline of the 1990s optimism.

For the Dot Com Bubble, it did to its impact but, people really overrate its impact at the time, it was the event that led to the 2001 recession, it was very mild compared to the 1990 - 1991 recession and 2008 - 2009 recession though.

For technological shifts, the Playstation 2 was released and it was the fastest selling game console at the time. The Nokia 3310 was released and still has its influence today on cellphones. The year when the Pentium 4 processor was released and the first processor to pass 1GHz, the Optical Mouse first started to pop up too. There were obviously a bit more changes.

Overall, you are right about there being a shift in 2000 but, I kinda felt the shift was kinda overshadowed by the years around it. I just consider 1997 - 2001 as just its own era.
2000 started to feel more 00s according to this list around the middle of that year. The dot.com bubble pretty much showed a welcome to the new millenium.  I was only 4 that year so I don't have really any valid points other than pop-culture references but 2000 is more 00s than people give it credit for. I can see why most people don't group 2000 with 2002 and 2003 because of 9/11 and teen pop dying off after mid 01 but like I said earlier 2002 wasn't that different from 1999/00 in the grand scheme of things. I remember plenty of older kids were still playing Pokemon in 2002 in my area,  Gameboy Color was still very much common in 2002 (from my perspective),  DBZ was still on toonami, even though the attitude era had ended it was still the pre brand-extension era in early 02 that completly changed the nature of the company, . If anything 2003 should be the first year that felt disconnected from the late not 2001.

There was a bit of a shift in 2000 and, it doesn't get enough credit. Television changed quite a lot in 2000, that was the year when Reality TV and modern crime investigation shows blew up. Survivor just seemed like another show when it premiered that not too many people I know even cared about at the time but, by the finale EVERYONE was watching it, the viewership for Survivor grew very fast.

About the Marshall Mathers LP, it most likely did lay the foundations to why the 2000s were so dominated by Hip Hop, Eminem really attracted a new white crowd to listen to Hip Hop. I would say the impact of the Marshall Mathers LP was already happening before it was release with the single 'The Real Slim Shady', the song was played so much on MTV, pretty much immediately after it was released. Though, the minor problem with this, is that Hip Hop still wasn't that big for most of 2000 (with the exception of the late part of the year) when you look back on the Hot 100, its popularity was pretty much unchanged compared to 1999.

The 2000 election was a huge deal and was pretty much the first event that led to the decline of the 1990s optimism.

For the Dot Com Bubble, it did to its impact but, people really overrate its impact at the time, it was the event that led to the 2001 recession, it was very mild compared to the 1990 - 1991 recession and 2008 - 2009 recession though.

For technological shifts, the Playstation 2 was released and it was the fastest selling game console at the time. The Nokia 3310 was released and still has its influence today on cellphones. The year when the Pentium 4 processor was released and the first processor to pass 1GHz, the Optical Mouse first started to pop up too. There were obviously a bit more changes.

Overall, you are right about there being a shift in 2000 but, I kinda felt the shift was kinda overshadowed by the years around it. I just consider 1997 - 2001 as just its own era.


I don't know if this counts, but the Oil Crisis Recession (1973-1975) was pretty big as well, probably bigger than the 1990-1991 recession (The Gulf War Recession).

I'll bite.....



Spring 1997 through Autumn 1998 constitute the Late 1990s


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Winter 1998/1999 through Summer 2001 constitute the 'Y2K Era'

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Autumn 2001 through Winter 2003/2004 constitute the Early 2000s


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This entire period of the Late 90s & Early 00s is also known as the 'Millennium Era' or 'The End of History', if taking Y2K into account ;D.

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Have a cake, my friend.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Spring 1997 - Mid 1998 = Late 90s
Late 1998 - Early 2001 = Y2K
Summer 2001 - Late 2003/Early 2004 = Early 2000s

The Real timelime of the y2k era



1997
Spice Girls debut in the Usa Kicking off Y2k era
Backstreet Boys debut and are huge hit
Hanson Debuts
TRL debuts as MTV LIVE
Pepsi airs Spice Girls commercials promoting Generation Y
Beavis & Butthead (A gen x show) ends
SNES and Genesis become irrelevant
Tomb Raider becomes a pop culture Icon
Playstation surpasses Nintendo in hype
WWF starts the Attitude era
Family Matters & Step by Step leave TGIF
CBS creates its own TGIF and takes Family Matters & Step by Step with them
Tamagotchi y2k fad
DVD debuts
Grunge is officially dead
Biggie Smalls dies and the Shiny Suit era of rap is ushered in
Titanic the movie
98 degrees debuts
Bret Hart leaves WWF
Final Fantasy 7 releases and changes the game for RPGS



1998
Pokemon becomes a huge hit
Britney Spears & Christina Aguilera debut
NYSNC debuts
Micheal Jordan plays his last game until 2001
Bill Clinton Monica scandal
Apple Imac is released (looks very y2k)
Shawn Micheals retires  until 2002
TGIF ratings plummet and ABC orders Olsen Twins to come back
MTV LIVE is renamed  TRL
WWF beats WCW in ratings
YoYos come back
Nu metal blows up


1999
Dreamcast Released
Donkey Kong 64 released and is a failure
Jessica Simpson Debuts
Swing song revival
Latin revival
Jenifer Lopez becomes a huge star
Owen Hart Dies
Blink 182 become a huge success
skateboarding starts becoming a fad in the last 4 months
Digimon debuts
The Rock becomes a break out star for WWF and create a show Smackdown ! named after him
Arcades decline rapidly
Napster debuts
Columbine shooting
Mandy Moore debuts
Eminem becomes a huge star

2000
OOps I did it again sets records along with NO strings Attached
Final full y2k year
Bush is elected at the end of the year
Playstation 2 is released but many shortages prevent people from playing it
WWFs ratings slow down in November
Survivor Debuts
peak year of CD sales in America, consumers bought 943 million CDs
Napster starts to become more popular
Angelina Jolie and Billy Bob Thornton got married on May 5, 2000
TGIF is canceled by ABC
Sabrina moves to The Wb's new TGIF like block
Boy meets World is canceled
Scary Movies is released
Pokemon declines in Q4 of 2000
Peak year of Dragon Ball Z due to the Cell Saga
Peak year of Toonami
Dot com busts
Nelly debuts






2001  ( January - August ) Pre 9/11 timeline
WWF buys WCW
WWF ends Attitude era
Sega announces they are leaving the hardware market and discontinue Dreamcast
WWF ratings plummet when The Rock leaves WWF
Game Boy Advance releases
DVD Hype starts around May/June and increases
Digimon's final year of popularity
Pop Punk becomes huge around July
Teen pop declines rapidly before fizzling out before August
Bradlees goes out of Business
Abc buys Fox Kids/ Saban
Toonami is added to KIDS WB in a butchered version and over saturates the brand
Sum 41 become a huge band
Bush becomes the president
Dot Coms busts effects become more apparent
Shrek Debuts
Jurassic Park III. debuts ending the Jurassic Park saga until 2015
Fox Family becomes ABC family
Wikipedia, a Wiki free content encyclopedia, goes online
Microsoft releases Windows XP  info to the public  (announces it will release Fall 2001)
Micheal Jordan announces he will play in the Fall 2001 season
Nsync release their final album and stamps an end to teen pop
Backstreet boys go on hiatus



And these were just the changes before 9/11 there were more concrete changes after 9/11 happened, but these were
just some of the things that added to the atmosphere of change by the time we got to Fall 2001. All of the months ahead
of September 2001 where all leading up to this big change that was evident by the 2001-2002 school year. The first couple
months of 2001's changes were very subtle.