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These photos made me realize that 2008 isn't as early 2010's as people make it out to be

These photos made me realize that 2008 isn't as early 2010's as people make it out to be


EXACTLY

These photos made me realize that 2008 isn't as early 2010's as people make it out to be


2008 was kind on the same level as 2006 and 2007
for some strange reason 2008 feels more 2000s than 2007

Miley Cyrus was still the sweet and innocent girl at the time.

These photos made me realize that 2008 isn't as early 2010's as people make it out to be


I agree, but try convincing Slim95 of that.

Many of the things that defined the early '10s came out of 2008 and 2009, but the atmosphere of 2008 was still a lot more '00s than most people today seem to remember and these pictures show it.

2008 was kind on the same level as 2006 and 2007
for some strange reason 2008 feels more 2000s than 2007


2008 still looks like 2005, the big shaggy hair and emo look.

I agree, but try convincing Slim95 of that.

Many of the things that defined the early '10s came out of 2008 and 2009, but the atmosphere of 2008 was still a lot more '00s than most people today seem to remember and these pictures show it.


So you agree that some of the things that defined the early '10s came out of the year 2010?

I actually like Lady Gaga, I'm not sure why some people hate her.  ;D  ;D  ;D

Summer 2008 doesn't have an early 2010s feel yet (or maybe a hybrid of early '10s and late '00s) but late 2008 certainly does. When Obama got elected. Lady Gaga dominated the airwaves, TRL got cancelled, the economy crashed, along with some other stuff, we were in a brand new era. 2008 was a transitional year.

I agree, but try convincing Slim95 of that.

One word comes to mind from 2008, TRANSITION! What a huge year of change. The most transformative year I can remember ever. Looking back at my personal life from then, it was good I was 13 years old and things were going great for me that year.

One word comes to mind from 2008, TRANSITION! What a huge year of change. The most transformative year I can remember ever. Looking back at my personal life from then, it was good I was 13 years old and things were going great for me that year.


Were you in 7th or 8th grade during the 2008-09 school year? I was 13 in most of 1992 and in 8th grade during the 92-93 school year, and I remember the vibe being similar as to when Bill Clinton got elected.

These photos made me realize that 2008 isn't as early 2010's as people make it out to be


Well I've explained this in the other thread before: it had all the trappings of a peak 2000s year, but sort of deflated. Much like how the first half of 2017 has felt like it has carried on the same way as the core Obama years, but it feels aimless. That's what makes it transitional.

Well I've explained this in the other thread before: it had all the trappings of a peak 2000s year, but sort of deflated. Much like how the first half of 2017 has felt like it has carried on the same way as the core Obama years, but it feels aimless. That's what makes it transitional.


2008 is half classic half new

Were you in 7th or 8th grade during the 2008-09 school year? I was 13 in most of 1992 and in 8th grade during the 92-93 school year, and I remember the vibe being similar as to when Bill Clinton got elected.

Yes I was in grade 8 in the 2008-2009 school year.

2008 is half classic half new


Yes. Finally, someone who's nailed it.

By the clothes, you can see everything. I remember going to the movies in 08 and the pic of Circuit City for example gave me the same vibe.

By the clothes, you can see everything. I remember going to the movies in 08 and the pic of Circuit City for example gave me the same vibe.

Were you in 7th or 8th grade during the 2008-09 school year? I was 13 in most of 1992 and in 8th grade during the 92-93 school year, and I remember the vibe being similar as to when Bill Clinton got elected.


Slim95 tends to place too much weight on his own personal experience as if that was everyone's experience.  Around age 13, you are transitioning from childhood to adolescence and it's a very transformative time of life no matter where the culture is at when you are that age.  When such a life transition lines up with a cultural transition it can make it feel especially impactful.  My equivalent is 1998, when I turned 13.  Looking back, there was a huge difference in my own life between 1997 and 1999.  However, I am willing to attribute some of that to the age I was at the time.

Summer 2008 doesn't have an early 2010s feel yet (or maybe a hybrid of early '10s and late '00s) but late 2008 certainly does. When Obama got elected. Lady Gaga dominated the airwaves, TRL got cancelled, the economy crashed, along with some other stuff, we were in a brand new era. 2008 was a transitional year.


Lady Gaga was still a rising star in late 2008.  2009 was her year.  She inescapable in the summer and fall of 2009.

Best Buy still looks pretty modern with all those TVs

Lady Gaga was still a rising star in late 2008.  2009 was her year.  She inescapable in the summer and fall of 2009.


She definitely came out in early 2008 with 'Just Dance'. But I do remember she was pretty big by roughly October/November 2008. Was she 100% fully famous? I'm not sure, but from my point of view, she was being talked about already.

She definitely came out in early 2008 with 'Just Dance'. But I do remember she was pretty big by roughly October/November 2008. Was she 100% fully famous? I'm not sure, but from my point of view, she was being talked about already.

Yeah that's when I first heard of her, around October of 2008. Her song Just Dance got a ton of airplay during that time.

She definitely came out in early 2008 with 'Just Dance'. But I do remember she was pretty big by roughly October/November 2008. Was she 100% fully famous? I'm not sure, but from my point of view, she was being talked about already.


When Womanizer hit #1 in January 2009, I still felt like Britney Spears was the biggest pop star around. It wasn't until a few months later when Poker Face topped the charts, and then later when Bad Romance came out, that I would have called Lady Gaga the biggest pop star.

Poker Face topped the charts in April 2009, Bad Romance in October 2009. That sounds about right to me.

When Womanizer hit #1 in January 2009, I still felt like Britney Spears was the biggest pop star around. It wasn't until a few months later when Poker Face topped the charts, and then later when Bad Romance came out, that I would have called Lady Gaga the biggest pop star.

Poker Face topped the charts in April 2009, Bad Romance in October 2009. That sounds about right to me.


I agree with this.  When I first heard "Just Dance" in September 2008, I liked the song, but I had no idea Lady Gaga was going to become as big as she did.  I actually thought she would be a one hit wonder at that point.  Summer 2009 is when it became clear how big she was going to be.  I still don't think she has ever topped "Bad Romance."

Yeah that's when I first heard of her, around October of 2008. Her song Just Dance got a ton of airplay during that time.


My guess is that it was like Madonna. She garnered attention with her 1984 VMA performance (Like A Virgin) in September of 1984. Then her album was released in November of 1984 (titled Like A Virgin also).

But it took a few months until she was fully blown famous until somewhere in 1985.

My guess is that it was like Madonna. She garnered attention with her 1984 VMA performance (Like A Virgin) in September of 1984. Then her album was released in November of 1984 (titled Like A Virgin also).

But it took a few months until she was fully blown famous until somewhere in 1985.


I remember when she paraded around in a wedding dress at The VMA in 1985.

These photos made me realize that 2008 isn't as early 2010's as people make it out to be

This.


Best Buy still looks pretty modern with all those TVs

You can count the pixels on those TVs.

This.

You can count the pixels on those TVs.

Technologically 2008 was quite dated but culturally it was pretty modern. The same sort of attitudes, fashion, and music styles are popular today,

You can count the pixels on those TVs.


Yeah but what I mean is that if you walked into that store just 3 years earlier, it would've looked ancient.

Technologically 2008 was quite dated but culturally it was pretty modern. The same sort of attitudes, fashion, and music styles are popular today,


Strongly disagree with this.  You really don't make a lot of sense sometimes and you contradict yourself.

The strongest ties we have today to 2008 is technological.  In 2008 we had the iPhone, which despite emerging in the '00s is a very '10s gadget.  In 2008 we also had Facebook surging and overtaking MySpace.  '00s Facebook had its own vibe but the Facebook we know today is another very '10s trend.  Attitudes, fashion, and music on the other hand is very different today compared to 2008.  2008 was much more liberal socially and it was at the tail end of the emo/scene fad.  Hipsters as we have come to know them in the '10s weren't really a thing in 2008.  As for music, that has been discussed to death but you already know that the style of music set up in late 2008 faded out sometime around early 2013.

Strongly disagree with this.  You really don't make a lot of sense sometimes and you contradict yourself.

The strongest ties we have today to 2008 is technological.  In 2008 we had the iPhone, which despite emerging in the '00s is a very '10s gadget.  In 2008 we also had Facebook surging and overtaking MySpace.  '00s Facebook had its own vibe but the Facebook we know today is another very '10s trend.  Attitudes, fashion, and music on the other hand is very different today compared to 2008.  2008 was much more liberal socially and it was at the tail end of the emo/scene fad.  Hipsters as we have come to know them in the '10s weren't really a thing in 2008.

No, in 2008 smartphones were completely different and had lower megapixels screens. All devices the standard was 720p, not even 1080 and now we have 1440p and 4K. Processors were slower, everything was different technologically. The technology of 2008 is dated, the culture and music is pretty modern.

No, in 2008 smartphones were completely different and had lower megapixels screens. All devices the standard was 720p, not even 1080 and now we have 1440p and 4K. Processors were slower, everything was different technologically. The technology of 2008 is dated, the culture and music is pretty modern.


You must just like to argue for the sake of arguing or you have no idea what you are talking about.  Few people infuriate me as much as you do.

Somebody else back me up.  2008 and 2017 are not exactly the same in terms of culture and music.  They are very different.  Here are the top 10 songs in 2008.

1 "Low" Flo Rida featuring T-Pain
2 "Bleeding Love" Leona Lewis
3 "No One" Alicia Keys
4 "Lollipop" Lil Wayne featuring Static Major
5 "Apologize" Timbaland featuring OneRepublic
6 "No Air" Jordin Sparks and Chris Brown
7 "Love Song" Sara Bareilles
8 "Love in This Club" Usher featuring Young Jeezy
9 "With You" Chris Brown
10 "Forever" Chris Brown

You must just like to argue for the sake of arguing or you have no idea what you are talking about.

Somebody else back me up.  2008 and 2017 are not exactly the same in terms of culture and music.  They are very different.  Here are the top 10 songs in 2008.

1 "Low" Flo Rida featuring T-Pain
2 "Bleeding Love" Leona Lewis
3 "No One" Alicia Keys
4 "Lollipop" Lil Wayne featuring Static Major
5 "Apologize" Timbaland featuring OneRepublic
6 "No Air" Jordin Sparks and Chris Brown
7 "Love Song" Sara Bareilles
8 "Love in This Club" Usher featuring Young Jeezy
9 "With You" Chris Brown
10 "Forever" Chris Brown

Yes I do know what I'm talking about. And it's very odd you are quoting me for something I didn't even say.  ::) I never said it was "exactly the same" I said that that the culture hasn't changed much and it is similar and it was relatively modern culture-wise. Technological wise, it is quite different, but not in terms of pop culture, plain and simple. Your list is way too detailed and you have a hard time looking at the big picture. The general pop culture and attitudes from then hasn't changed that much and is the same as today.

Yes I do know what I'm talking about. And it's very odd you are quoting me for something I didn't even say.  ::) I never said it was "exactly the same" I said that that the culture hasn't changed much and it is similar. Technological wise, it is quite different, but not in terms of attitudes, and culture.


Maybe in your pocket of Canada it's the same but here everything is very different.  Once again, if it were 2012 I could see your point.  There were some aspects of 2008's world that were still lingering at that point.  2017 is NOT the same as 2008.

To say that 2008 and 2017 are the same would mean you would have to discount the changes in 2013, which in other threads you have highlighted.

Maybe in your pocket of Canada it's the same but here everything is very different.  Once again, if it were 2012 I could see your point.  There were some aspects of 2008's world that were still lingering at that point.  2017 is NOT the same as 2008.

To say that 2008 and 2017 are the same would mean you would have to discount the changes in 2013, which in other threads you have highlighted.

Culturally, 2008 was relatively similar to today and it is part of the same big era. No, it does not discount changes in 2013 because not everything is black and white. You can have change in culture but still be similar. 2008 was still pretty modern and culturally similar to today. We are in the same big era since late 2008, pop culture and attitudes are still similar since then. It was still relatively modern back then, not that much has changed in pop culture. Technologically, a lot has changed since then though.

The general pop culture and attitudes from then hasn't changed that much and is the same as today.


How can you say that the general pop culture and attitudes haven't changed much? 2008 is almost a decade old, of course the general vibe and attitudes of pop culture and society will be drastically different.

How can you say that the general pop culture and attitudes haven't changed much? 2008 is almost a decade old, of course the general vibe and attitudes of pop culture and society will be drastically different.

Yup it is a decade old and not that much has changed despite it being a decade old, simple as that. How can I say it? Because it's the truth. If we go back to 2004 for example,  then you will notice a huge change in culture, not 2008. That's just the way it is. You can deny it all you want and make lists of songs and minimilistic things, doesn't make it true. The general vibe and attitudes, music, fashion is the same. I can wear a shirt in my closet from 2008 and would not look dated. I can reference a celebrity from 2008 and it would not look odd, that's the way it is. Now if I take a cell phone from 2008? That will look very dated.

Yup it is a decade old and not that much has changed despite it being a decade old, simple as that. How can I say it? Because it's the truth.


It doesn't make any sense, whichever way you look at it. Do you know how ludicrous it is to suggest that not much has changed in terms of pop culture and society in the space of 10 years?

It doesn't make any sense, whichever way you look at it. Do you know how ludicrous it is to suggest that not much has changed in terms of pop culture and society in the space of 10 years?

No it really isn't. Because it's the truth. Music has not changed that much and neither has culture. I already explained this to you. Pop culture is relatively similar. We are still in one big era since. You have to learn to accept that. I can wear shirts from 2008, I can reference celebrities from 2008, I can reference shows from 2008 without it looking dated and odd. Can't do the same with technology, the IPhone second Gen is COMPLETELY different compared to IPhones and smartphones today. That's how it is, you may want there to be a lot of changes in culture but there isn't.

You must just like to argue for the sake of arguing or you have no idea what you are talking about.  Few people infuriate me as much as you do.

Somebody else back me up.  2008 and 2017 are not exactly the same in terms of culture and music.  They are very different.  Here are the top 10 songs in 2008.

1 "Low" Flo Rida featuring T-Pain
2 "Bleeding Love" Leona Lewis
3 "No One" Alicia Keys
4 "Lollipop" Lil Wayne featuring Static Major
5 "Apologize" Timbaland featuring OneRepublic
6 "No Air" Jordin Sparks and Chris Brown
7 "Love Song" Sara Bareilles
8 "Love in This Club" Usher featuring Young Jeezy
9 "With You" Chris Brown
10 "Forever" Chris Brown


Just don't bother discussing this with him. Clearly he's not going to change his opinion even after many people have pointed out many differences between today and 2008 yet he won't change his mind, what I want to know is if he will continues saying this into the 2020s.....then it'll become a joke ::)

Just down bother discussing this with him. Clearly he's not going to change his opinion even after many people have pointed out many differences between today and 2008 and today yet he won't change his mind, what I want to know fi he will continues saying this into the 2020s.....then it'll become a joke ::)

I will keep saying it if it's true but a truly transformative year will be on the horizon I believe. The problem with you, ChrisB, and Sharks99 is you look at changes like every 4 years and are wayyy too detailed and look at artificial changes or genuine changes in pop culture, but not the big picture. The changes are just not significant enough, simple as that. I say the same thing about 1991 - 1998 and 1999 to 2007. In this instance, the big general era is going a little longer than expected. Until flat coloured design aesthetics and logos are gonr, fashion from '08 that can still be worn is gone, celebrities from then are irrelevent, and some other key changes I WILL continue to say we are in a big pop cultural era since late 2008 since that's the truth. Technology wise a lot of stuff has changed the past 10 years, music, pop culture, fashion and attitudes, not so much.

No it really isn't. Because it's the truth. Music has not changed that much and neither has culture. I already explained this to you. Pop culture is relatively similar. We are still in one big era since. You have to learn to accept that.


They are not relatively similar at all. The Emo scene, crunk and post-grunge were all popular genres back in 2008. Those genres have been absent from the mainstream for several years now. Most of the biggest artists of today, such as Harry Styles, Kendrick Lamar and Kesha, were unheard of back then. How could you possibly think that music has not changed much? It's incredibly obvious that it has changed, even to people who do not follow pop culture to the extent that all of us do.

They are not relatively similar at all. The Emo scene, crunk and post-grunge were all popular genres back in 2008. Those genres have been absent from the mainstream for several years now. Most of the biggest artists of today, such as Harry Styles, Kendrick Lamar and Kesha, were unheard of back then. How could you possibly think that music has not changed much? It's incredibly obvious that it has changed, even to people who do not follow pop culture to the extent that all of us do.

No it is not obvious because not that much has changed. You are wrong and reading way too much into it and way too detailed trends like most others on this site. Ask anyone over 40 years old and they will agree with me. Heck, people in their 50s and 60s think not a lot has changed since 2006. Some even younger than them. Emo scene? Really? Just because trends are not the same as today does not mean it isn't similar. How many times fo I have to say it? I can wear clothes from 2008 and I can reference celebrities from 2008, and I can make '08 style logos without it looking dated. Can't do the same for stuff from the '90s and early 2000s. Not a lot has changed since then, simple as that and we are in a big general era since then. EazyMan (Erik) agrees with me we are still in a big era since late 2008. A bunch of others do as well. You are wrong here. Pop culture is similar from 2008, that's the truth.

Maybe because you are younger you may feel 2008 feels very different. I am older and I can see the culture is not that different. Technology wise and personal life wise for me it's worlds apart, but not pop culture wise. Music is still about sex and drugs, the same sort of electronic vibe in songs are used, and many celebrities from then like Taylor Swift and Katy Perry are still relevent. Will it change soon? Probably. But we are not quite there yet and I still feel a similar vibe today that I had in the late 2000s and early 2010s.

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No it is not obvious because not that much has changed. You are wrong and reading way too much into it. Ask anyone over 40 years old and they will agree with me. Heck, people in their 50s and 60s think not a lot has changed since 2006. Some even younger than them. Emo scene? Really? Just because trends are not the same as today does not mean it isn't similar. How many times fo I have to say it? I can wear clothes from 2008 and I can reference celebrities from 2008, and I can make '08 style logos without it looking dated. Can't do the same for stuff from the '90s and early 2000s. Not a lot has changed since then, simple as that and we are in a big general era since then. EazyMan (Erik) agrees with me we are still in a big era since late 2008. A bunch of others do as well. You are wrong here. Pop culture is similar from 2008, that's the truth.


When I look at pictures from 2008, the fashion is very different from today.

No it is not obvious because not that much has changed. You are wrong and reading way too much into it. Ask anyone over 40 years old and they will agree with me. Heck, people in their 50s and 60s think not a lot has changed since 2006. Some even younger than them. Emo scene? Really? Just because trends are not the same as today does not mean it isn't similar. How many times fo I have to say it? I can wear clothes from 2008 and I can reference celebrities from 2008, and I can make '08 style logos without it looking dated. Can't do the same for stuff from the '90s and early 2000s. Not a lot has changed since then, simple as that and we are in a big general era since then. EazyMan (Erik) agrees with me we are still in a big era since late 2008. A bunch of others do as well. You are wrong here. Pop culture is similar from 2008, that's the truth.


I'm basing my viewpoint on facts, not hypothetical, broad-based statements of fiction like yourself. Whoopty-doo for you still being able to wear a t-shirt from 2008. You still see people wearing flannelette shirts, but culture isn't the same as it was back in the Early-Mid '90s, is it? Whether you like it or not, the music scene has drastically changed since 2008 and you can't deny that.

Also, I have never stated that there aren't any similarities. However, with that said, there are more differences between the two years than there are similarities.

Yup it is a decade old and not that much has changed despite it being a decade old, simple as that. How can I say it? Because it's the truth. If we go back to 2004 for example,  then you will notice a huge change in culture, not 2008. That's just the way it is. You can deny it all you want and make lists of songs and minimilistic things, doesn't make it true. The general vibe and attitudes, music, fashion is the same. I can wear a shirt in my closet from 2008 and would not look dated. I can reference a celebrity from 2008 and it would not look odd, that's the way it is. Now if I take a cell phone from 2008? That will look very dated.


You seriously don't know what you are talking about.

In 2008, my closet was mostly filled with A&F, Aeropostale, and American Eagle logo t-shirts.  I still wear them today when running or something but I don't wear them to be seen in like I would have in 2008.  Emo/scene fashion was also still big in 2008.  I guess you could get away with it today but you would probably get looks.  Meanwhile, the stereotypical '10s hipster look wasn't yet with us in 2008.  I really don't understand how you can say fashion hasn't changed in 10 years.  It definitely has.

The attitude in 2008 was much more lighthearted and liberal than today.  Back then, it was popular to be a Democrat and unpopular to be a Republican.  The opposite is true today.  You might not see this being that you are in Canada, but that is the case in the US.

Music...in 2008 we still had a lot of ringtone rap.  Lil Wayne and TI was popular.  Hip-hop was dominated by the early, synth-based form of trap.  EDM was still called techno by most people.  Justin Bieber wasn't even on the charts.  Lady Gaga was rising but Britney Spears was still a bigger deal.  Post grunge was still with us.  Once again, I don't understand how you can say music hasnt' changed in a decade.  I really think you are off your rocker and need to put down the bong.

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When I look at pictures from 2008, the fashion is very different from today.

That's fine everybody has different perspectives. But for me, I could grab a shirt from my closet from '08 and it honestly wouldn't look dated or be weird to wear. There are some changes of course, they just aren't super significant in a relative sense.

I think all of you need to calm down and realize I am talking about it in a relative sense and as a general era, a lot of older folks agree with me and I even heard many say things are pretty similar culturally since 2006! I still agree early 2010s and even mid 2010s was a different era from today, but I am talking about a bigger general era in culture since 2008, the era that is usually defined every 8-10 years. Remember, it's not black and white. You can say we are in the same era since 2000 if you are talking about a 100 year span then it would be relative. From my personal experience the general culture hasn't changed that much since 2008, you can't change my mind on that because that's what I have observed. I would agree with you when I remove the big picture perspective and out on decadological detailed culture glases then I can list the clear differences between today and eras from before.

I'm basing my viewpoint on facts, not hypothetical, broad-based statements of fiction like yourself. Whoopty-doo for you still being able to wear a t-shirt from 2008. You still see people wearing flannelette shirts, but culture isn't the same as it was back in the Early-Mid '90s, is it? Whether you like it or not, the music scene has drastically changed since 2008 and you can't deny that.

Also, I have never stated that there aren't any similarities. However, with that said, there are more differences between the two years than there are similarities.

No I am the one stating facts. You are the one using viewpoints. The fact is we are not in a different world since 2008, and many people can agree with that. If you don't agree, it's fine but if you say it is completely wrong then it's borderline decadology...

No I am the one stating facts. You are the one using viewpoints. The fact is we are not in a different world since 2008, and many people can agree with that. If you don't agree, it's fine but if you say it is completely wrong then it's borderline decadology...


Even if you don't take into account the changes in pop culture and society, it sounds absolutely ridiculous to suggest that we are in the same world as what we were almost a decade ago.

You seriously don't know what you are talking about.

In 2008, my closet was mostly filled with A&F, Aeropostale, and American Eagle logo t-shirts.  I still wear them today when running or something but I don't wear them to be seen in like I would have in 2008.  Emo/scene fashion was also still big in 2008.  I guess you could get away with it today but you would probably get looks.  Meanwhile, the stereotypical '10s hipster look wasn't yet with us in 2008.  I really don't understand how you can say fashion hasn't changed in 10 years.  It definitely has.

The attitude in 2008 was much more lighthearted and liberal than today.  Back then, it was popular to be a Democrat and unpopular to be a Republican.  The opposite is true today.  You might not see this being that you are in Canada, but that is the case in the US.

Music...in 2008 we still had a lot of ringtone rap.  Lil Wayne and TI was popular.  Hip-hop was dominated by the early, synth-based form of trap.  EDM was still called techno by most people.  Justin Bieber wasn't even on the charts.  Lady Gaga was rising but Britney Spears was still a bigger deal.  Post grunge was still with us.  Once again, I don't understand how you can say music hasnt' changed in a decade.  I really think you are off your rocker and need to put down the bong.

Yes I do know what I'm talking about. Pop culture is not that different from 2008 compared to now because not that much has chnaged in the pop culture scene. It seems you are the one who doesn't know what you are talking about. There you go listing little details and trends thinking I don't know that... I know what the sound was lime back then, but generally music and pop culture and fashion is still very similar now compared to 2008. It is not worlds apart and that different, it would be for the early 2000s though. Just face it, take off the decadology glasses and stop focusing so much on detail and look at the big picture lol. It is similar now compared to 2008. Now 2007, that is when things start to feel a lot more distant.

Even if you don't take into account the changes in pop culture and society, it sounds absolutely ridiculous to suggest that we are in the same world as what we were almost a decade ago.

It's not ridicous when it's the truth... We are in the same world since 2008, that's the truth. You sound ridiculous now. Most people actually agree we are in the same world since 2006. And elderly people think we are in the same world since the 1990s. You sound ridiculous because you can't understand these viewpoints. The fact is, the last 10 years were not that changeful for pop culture, you need to accept that. Now 2005 vs. 2015, I could actually see that as being world's apart. Not 2008 vs. 2017. It seems pop culture is changing much slower compared to before. It could be my age, but I do think there was a lot less innovative pop culture this decade. Most people on this forum agree the 2010s were a very consistent decade... You can find people saying that everywhere on here. I agree with that notion, the 2010s are very consistent with not that much innovation in music, fashion, and pop culture unlike the 2000s. Now technologically there have been many changes since 2010 (even technologically not as much changes as the 2000s decade, but still noticable change.

Even if you don't take into account the changes in pop culture and society, it sounds absolutely ridiculous to suggest that we are in the same world as what we were almost a decade ago.


I agree.  Since we are pretty much in December it's safe to assume that today's world won't be much different from early 2018.  I think 2018 is as different from 2008 as 2008 was from 1998.

Geopolitically, remember that in 2008, Bush was still President, the Iraq War was the biggest issue, Obama was very popular as was liberal ideology, oil was $150/barrel, and the economy was in free fall.  Does that sound like 2017?

I agree.  Since we are pretty much in December it's safe to assume that today's world won't be much different from early 2018.  I think 2018 is as different from 2008 as 2008 was from 1998.

Geopolitically, remember that in 2008, Bush was still President, the Iraq War was the biggest issue, Obama was very popular as was liberal ideology, oil was $150/barrel, and the economy was in free fall.  Does that sound like 2017?

I think politically and technologically it's very different. But pop culturally it is not that different. It could be seen as the same era since late 2008 up to today. This may change in 2018, maybe by late 2018 we can say that 2008 was another world. At the moment, I am saying 2007 was like another world. But 2008 is not quite there yet. I do find that sad. In 2007, you were easily able to say 1998 was completely different and another world because so much more has changed with pop culture in that time span.

It seems pop culture is changing much slower compared to before. It could be my age, but I do think there was a lot less innovative pop culture this decade.


This is likely the case.  I feel the same way about the '00s that you do about the '10s.  To me, the '90s seemed a lot more changeful.  I turned 13 in 1998.

You need to accept that other people are allowed to have opinions and your perception isn't reality for everyone.

This is likely the case.  I feel the same way about the '00s that you do about the '10s.  To me, the '90s seemed a lot more changeful.  I turned 13 in 1998.

You need to accept that other people are allowed to have opinions and your perception isn't reality for everyone.

I do accept that. Everybody has different perceptions and experiences depending on age and their own individual experiences.

You seriously don't know what you are talking about.

In 2008, my closet was mostly filled with A&F, Aeropostale, and American Eagle logo t-shirts.  I still wear them today when running or something but I don't wear them to be seen in like I would have in 2008.  Emo/scene fashion was also still big in 2008.  I guess you could get away with it today but you would probably get looks.  Meanwhile, the stereotypical '10s hipster look wasn't yet with us in 2008.  I really don't understand how you can say fashion hasn't changed in 10 years.  It definitely has.

The attitude in 2008 was much more lighthearted and liberal than today.  Back then, it was popular to be a Democrat and unpopular to be a Republican.  The opposite is true today.  You might not see this being that you are in Canada, but that is the case in the US.

Music...in 2008 we still had a lot of ringtone rap.  Lil Wayne and TI was popular.  Hip-hop was dominated by the early, synth-based form of trap.  EDM was still called techno by most people.  Justin Bieber wasn't even on the charts.  Lady Gaga was rising but Britney Spears was still a bigger deal.  Post grunge was still with us.  Once again, I don't understand how you can say music hasnt' changed in a decade.  I really think you are off your rocker and need to put down the bong.

I saw a home video of me graduating Kindergarten in 2008. Everybody was recording with a digital camera and nobody had a Smartphone. In fact, the iPhone couldn't even record videos back then. If it was taken in 2017, you'd see everyone with a Smartphone which is one of the biggest things in the 2010's.
I also saw a video of my older brother graduating middle school in 2008, and the fashion was definitely different. There weren't any hipsters and plenty of guys still wore long hair. I think its safe to say that 2008 is definitely removed from today.

yeah digital Cams will still pretty prevalent until 2010

They are not relatively similar at all. The Emo scene, crunk and post-grunge were all popular genres back in 2008. Those genres have been absent from the mainstream for several years now. Most of the biggest artists of today, such as Harry Styles, Kendrick Lamar and Kesha, were unheard of back then. How could you possibly think that music has not changed much? It's incredibly obvious that it has changed, even to people who do not follow pop culture to the extent that all of us do.


4 years late but Kesha wasn’t that big and kinda outdated in 2017 except for that little song she released amid the Dr. Luke allegations. Biggest artists that year were The Weekend, Shawn Mendes, Cardi B and Migos, artists that were never heard of in 2008.

Also 2017 was the Trump and Mumble rapper era unlike 2008 which was the Bush Emo/Scene/Post Grunge/RnB era

2008 was the Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3 era while 2018 was the PS4, Nintendo Switch and Xbox one era

I can't believe 2008 was 13 years ago!  :o