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Subject: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 04/12/17 at 11:08 pm

100% x
90% x x
80% x
70% x x
60% x
50% x
40%
30% x x
20%
10%
0%

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/13/17 at 8:16 am

Wow you made that? That's impressive. :o

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 8:20 am

1999 - 50%
2000 - 65% (the big leap is because early 1999 was still majority 90s)
2001 - 75%
2002 - 85%
2003 - 90%
2004 - 95%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 95%
2007 - 85%
2008 - 75%
2009 - 55%
2010 - 20%
2011 - 10%
2012 - 5%
2013 - 2%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/13/17 at 8:27 am

1999 (1st half) - 45%
1999 (2nd half) - 50%
2000 - 60%
2001 - 75%
2002 - 80%
2003 - 85%
2004 - 90%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 95%
2007 - 90%
2008 - 80%
2009 - 75%
2010 - 50%
2011 - 25%
2012 - 10%
2013 - 5%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/13/17 at 8:33 am

Oh, right, I forgot to do mine

2000 - 60%
2001 - 75%
2002 - 85%
2003 - 95%
2004 - 100%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 100%
2007 - 100%
2008 - 80%
2009 - 55%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 04/13/17 at 9:02 am

Release of "Baby one more Time" - the Columbine shooting: 35%
Columbine Shooting - Y2K: 50%
Y2K - Election Day 2000: 60%
Election Day 2000 - 9/11: 70%
9/11-2002: 80%
2003: 90%
2004: 97.5%
2005: 100%
2006: 100%
2007: 90%
2008 (until election day): 75%
Post-election 2008 until 2009: 50%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 10:26 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mqg96 on 04/13/17 at 10:33 am

I disagree with 2006 being 100% 2000s because YouTube and Facebook were both reasonably popular that year. Some may categorize their early days with the 2000s, but in my opinion, they've had a drastic impact on everyday life that is still felt today but which was hardly existent for most of the 2000s, and their basic functions haven't much changed since their mainstream breakthroughs. Sure, they're now more corporate and have undergone some facelifts, but they still bridged 2006 with this decade in a way pretty much nothing in 2005 could.

Facebook wasn't at its peak yet though. 2006 was still a Myspace year, and early Youtube had a HUGE impact on 2000's culture IMO. 2005 and 2006 are the quintessential 2000's years, and looking at these posts is another reason why I pick those years. Early 2004 was the tail end of late 90's influences while late 2007 was the very beginning of early 2010's influences. 2005 & 2006 just feel like peak 2000's in everything that defined the decade from start to finish.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 10:35 am

My take is this.....
http://i.imgur.com/L4dT9TF.png

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mqg96 on 04/13/17 at 10:38 am

100% x
90% x x
80% x
70% x x
60% x
50% x
40%
30% x x
20%
10%
0%

2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009

Release of "Baby one more Time" - the Columbine shooting: 35%
Columbine Shooting - Y2K: 50%
Y2K - Election Day 2000: 60%
Election Day 2000 - 9/11: 70%
9/11-2002: 80%
2003: 90%
2004: 97.5%
2005: 100%
2006: 100%
2007: 90%
2008 (until election day): 75%
Post-election 2008 until 2009: 50%

Oh, right, I forgot to do mine

2000 - 60%
2001 - 75%
2002 - 85%
2003 - 95%
2004 - 100%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 100%
2007 - 100%
2008 - 80%
2009 - 55%

1999 (1st half) - 45%
1999 (2nd half) - 50%
2000 - 60%
2001 - 75%
2002 - 80%
2003 - 85%
2004 - 90%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 95%
2007 - 90%
2008 - 80%
2009 - 75%
2010 - 50%
2011 - 25%
2012 - 10%
2013 - 5%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 10:52 am

Facebook wasn't at its peak yet though. 2006 was still a Myspace year, and early Youtube had a HUGE impact on 2000's culture IMO. 2005 and 2006 are the quintessential 2000's years, and looking at these posts is another reason why I pick those years. Early 2004 was the tail end of late 90's influences while late 2007 was the very beginning of early 2010's influences. 2005 & 2006 just feel like peak 2000's in everything that defined the decade from start to finish.

It's a bit more complicated than that, in my opinion. 2006 was really the start of these sites' influence on popular culture itself, even if neither was at its height yet. While Facebook and YouTube already existed in 2005, but back then, neither were mainstream and each was basically just another site rather than groundbreaking phenomenons escorting us to the coming decade. In 2006, however, they were quickly beginning to transform the basic structure of people's lives into something much more 2010s. Sure, some things such as Over 9000 and lonelygirl15 are pretty much exclusively 2000s, but at the same time, YouTube was also readying several things cornerstone to the 2010s. Smosh and AVGN are still very popular today, and even though it's debatable whether they're as relevant now as they were in the late 2000s, they, along with other channels, were still super influential to future YouTube channels.

On another note, you could also factor 7th-gen video game consoles into 2006 not being purely 2000s, however I bring more mention to YouTube and Facebook because they clearly have peaked more in the 2010s as opposed to being more borderline.

Some might be surprised I say 1995 is purely 90s when that year saw the mainstream breakthrough of the Internet, which peaked far more throughout the 2000s than the 90s. Well, first of all, few people actually owned the Internet in '95, in the same way most folks didn't even know about YouTube or Facebook in 2005. Beyond that, however, I feel the overall nature of the Internet changed more from the 90s to the early 2000s than YouTube and Facebook did coming into the early 2010s. The Internet in the 90s was largely seen as a fad or a cool thing, with media of all sorts in the late 90s centering their premises around how cool the Internet was. On top of that, hardly any variety of websites actually existed in 1995, so the capabilities of the Internet were quite limited in 1995 compared to what they were 5 years later. Thus, the Internet's significance back then was pretty much purely as a headline story, a fad, an investment possibility, essentially everything distinctly 90s about the Internet. Already by late 1996, the Internet was starting to evolve from just a technological craze to a standard of life, having become pivotal to Decision '96 coverage and landed in many more households following the holiday season of 1995.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 10:55 am

It's a bit more complicated than that, in my opinion. 2006 was really the start of these sites' influence on popular culture itself, even if neither was at its height yet. While Facebook and YouTube already existed in 2005, but back then, neither were mainstream and each was basically just another site rather than groundbreaking phenomenons escorting us to the coming decade. In 2006, however, they were quickly beginning to transform the basic structure of people's lives into something much more 2010s. Sure, some things such as Over 9000 and lonelygirl15 are pretty much exclusively 2000s, but at the same time, YouTube was also readying several things cornerstone to the 2010s. Smosh and AVGN are still very popular today, and even though it's debatable whether they're as relevant now as they were in the late 2000s, they, along with other channels, were still super influential to future YouTube channels.

On another note, you could also factor 7th-gen video game consoles into 2006 not being purely 2000s, however I bring more mention to YouTube and Facebook because they clearly have peaked more in the 2010s as opposed to being more borderline.

Some might be surprised I say 1995 is purely 90s when that year saw the mainstream breakthrough of the Internet, which peaked far more throughout the 2000s than the 90s. Well, first of all, few people actually owned the Internet in '95, in the same way most folks didn't even know about YouTube or Facebook in 2005. Beyond that, however, I feel the overall nature of the Internet changed more from the 90s to the early 2000s than YouTube and Facebook did coming into the early 2010s. The Internet in the 90s was largely seen as a fad or a cool thing, with media of all sorts in the late 90s centering their premises around how cool the Internet was. On top of that, hardly any variety of websites actually existed in 1995, so the capabilities of the Internet were quite limited in 1995 compared to what they were 5 years later. Thus, the Internet's significance back then was pretty much purely as a headline story, a fad, an investment possibility, essentially everything distinctly 90s about the Internet. Already by late 1996, the Internet was starting to evolve from just a technological craze to a standard of life, having become pivotal to Decision '96 coverage and landed in many more households following the holiday season of 1995.

I agree with you that 1995 is the quintessential '90s year. 1995 had an almost perfect mix of both early '90s and late '90s fads, fashion, music, tech, etc.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mqg96 on 04/13/17 at 11:01 am

On another note, you could also factor 7th-gen video game consoles into 2006 not being purely 2000s, however I bring more mention to YouTube and Facebook because they clearly have peaked more in the 2010s as opposed to being more borderline.

Late 2004-2006 was the 6th gen to 7th gen gaming transition, just because the consoles came out didn't mean the generation was in full effect yet. 2006 the last real 6th generation gaming year even though the XBOX 360 was already out and the Wii and PS3 didn't come out until late in the year. 2007 is when 7th generation gaming went in full effect. I think 2005 & 2006 still being 6th generation years along with the hype for 7th generation consoles on its way make those years peak 2000's as well. You had the latter half of the XBOX, PS2, and Gamecube's peak along with the 7th gen handhelds like the Nintendo DS and PSP. That screams peak 2000's culture.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mqg96 on 04/13/17 at 11:04 am

I agree with you that 1995 is the quintessential '90s year. 1995 had an almost perfect mix of both early '90s and late '90s fads, fashion, music, tech, etc.

I always pick 1994 and 1995 as the quintessential 90's years. Right in between the Bulls dynasty and Jordan's championships from 1991-1993 and 1996-1998. It was the peak of 90's movies and 90's television right in between 1993 and 1996. Plus, by the time Lion King came out in 1994 you had all the best Disney Renaissance movies out even though there were more to come. 1994 and 1995 were the peak of FOX Kids and Nickelodeon's golden ages. 1993 was still kinda early 90's in many aspects and the tail end of late 80's influences, and while most of 1996 was still mid 90's, late 90's culture started in late 1996 including the earliest millennial influences.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 11:09 am

Late 2004-2006 was the 6th gen to 7th gen gaming transition, just because the consoles came out didn't mean the generation was in full effect yet. 2006 the last real 6th generation gaming year even though the XBOX 360 was already out and the Wii and PS3 didn't come out until late in the year. 2007 is when 7th generation gaming went in full effect. I think 2005 & 2006 still being 6th generation years along with the hype for 7th generation consoles on its way make those years peak 2000's as well. You had the latter half of the XBOX, PS2, and Gamecube's peak along with the 7th gen handhelds like the Nintendo DS and PSP. That screams peak 2000's culture.

The 360 was already out for all of 2006, and the launches of the Wii and PS3 were still significant events, although only the latter was really relevant to the 2010s and not just the late 2000s. I don't consider the DS a borderline '10s handheld because it came out during the first half of the 2000s and the 3DS replaced it just a year into the 2010s. Overall, 2006 was more 6th gen, but the 7th generation was still much more significant to that year in a way it hadn't been in 2005, a year far more remembered for its 6th-gen titles than its 7th-gen ones.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 11:10 am

Late 2004-2006 was the 6th gen to 7th gen gaming transition, just because the consoles came out didn't mean the generation was in full effect yet. 2006 the last real 6th generation gaming year even though the XBOX 360 was already out and the Wii and PS3 didn't come out until late in the year. 2007 is when 7th generation gaming went in full effect. I think 2005 & 2006 still being 6th generation years along with the hype for 7th generation consoles on its way make those years peak 2000's as well. You had the latter half of the XBOX, PS2, and Gamecube's peak along with the 7th gen handhelds like the Nintendo DS and PSP. That screams peak 2000's culture.

Yes, I agree. I remember that 2006 was just hype for the 7th generation of consoles (Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii) but 2006 was still a very 6th gen year. I think 2006 is apart of the peak 2000s (along with 2004 & 2005).

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 11:11 am

I always pick 1994 and 1995 as the quintessential 90's years. Right in between the Bulls dynasty and Jordan's championships from 1991-1993 and 1996-1998. It was the peak of 90's movies and 90's television right in between 1993 and 1996. Plus, by the time Lion King came out in 1994 you had all the best Disney Renaissance movies out even though there were more to come. 1994 and 1995 were the peak of FOX Kids and Nickelodeon's golden ages. 1993 was still kinda early 90's in many aspects and the tail end of late 80's influences, and while most of 1996 was still mid 90's, late 90's culture started in late 1996 including the earliest millennial influences.

Absolutely. You hit most of the points.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 11:13 am

Yes, I agree. I remember that 2006 was just hype for the 7th generation of consoles (Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii) but 2006 was still a very 6th gen year. I think 2006 is apart of the peak 2000s (along with 2004 & 2005).

2006 was also an extremely forgettable and worn-out year for 6th-gen titles. 2005, on the other hand, was still plentiful with GCN/Original XBOX/PS2 titles that were super popular at the time, not to mention lots of folks were still hooked on late 2004 games like Halo 2.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mqg96 on 04/13/17 at 11:16 am

The 360 was already out for all of 2006, and the launches of the Wii and PS3 were still significant events, although only the latter was really relevant to the 2010s and not just the late 2000s. I don't consider the DS a borderline '10s handheld because it came out during the first half of the 2000s and the 3DS replaced it just a year into the 2010s. Overall, 2006 was more 6th gen, but the 7th generation was still much more significant to that year in a way it hadn't been in 2005, a year far more remembered for its 6th-gen titles than its 7th-gen ones.

That's what I'm saying, when I think of quintessential 2000's gaming, I think of the second half of 6th generation gaming and the hype for 7th generation consoles coming out, which occurred throughout the mid 2000's. The XBOX, Gamecube, PS2, Nintendo DS, and PSP were the quintessential 2000's consoles/handhelds. The XBOX, Gamecube, and PS2 are 6th gen while the Nintendo DS and PSP are 7th gen. While at the same time you were excited for the PS3, Wii, and 360 coming out but nobody was playing it yet.

When it was the first half of 6th gen gaming, the PS2, Gamecube, XBOX, and Gameboy Advance only, that wasn't quintessential 2000's gaming, that was early 2000's gaming. When 7th gen gaming was in full effect and people NO longer cared about 6th gen gaming, that was late 2000's gaming, not quintessential to the 2000's which were the XBOX 360, Wii, PS3, Nintendo DS, and PSP.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 11:18 am

2006 was also an extremely forgettable and worn-out year for 6th-gen titles. 2005, on the other hand, was still plentiful with GCN/Original XBOX/PS2 titles that were super popular at the time, not to mention lots of folks were still hooked on late 2004 games like Halo 2.

That is true.

That's what I'm saying, when I think of quintessential 2000's gaming, I think of the second half of 6th generation gaming and the hype for 7th generation consoles coming out, which occurred throughout the mid 2000's. The XBOX, Gamecube, PS2, Nintendo DS, and PSP were the quintessential 2000's consoles/handhelds. The XBOX, Gamecube, and PS2 are 6th gen while the Nintendo DS and PSP are 7th gen. While at the same time you were excited for the PS3, Wii, and 360 coming out but nobody was playing it yet.

When it was the first half of 6th gen gaming, the PS2, Gamecube, XBOX, and Gameboy Advance only, that wasn't quintessential 2000's gaming, that was early 2000's gaming. When 7th gen gaming was in full effect and people NO longer cared about 6th gen gaming, that was late 2000's gaming, not quintessential to the 2000's which were the XBOX 360, Wii, PS3, Nintendo DS, and PSP.

2007 was the first year where 6th generation consoles started to matter less than 7th gen.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 11:21 am

Absolutely. You hit most of the points.

Yeah, 1994 and 1995 were the quintessential 90s years. Musically, too, you had a mix of everything 90s, between new-jack swing romps such as "This Is How We Do It" (the most pan-90s song, imo), gangsta rap and hardcore rap at their peak, eurodance tunes like "Another Night" and "Cotton-Eye Joe," boybands like Take That, Color Me Badd, All-4-One, and Boyzone; girl groups like TLC, Eternal, and Total, grunge, early post-grunge, love ballads, and the like. 1996 was extremely 90s too, but a lot of the most important movements were on the wane that year, not to mention there were a few huge songs that paved the way for 2000s music, like "If Your Girl Only Knew," "No Diggity," and "Pony."

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 11:24 am

Yeah, 1994 and 1995 were the quintessential 90s years. Musically, too, you had a mix of everything 90s, between new-jack swing romps such as "This Is How We Do It" (the most pan-90s song, imo), gangsta rap and hardcore rap at their peak, eurodance tunes like "Another Night" and "Cotton-Eye Joe," boybands like Take That, Color Me Badd, All-4-One, and Boyzone; girl groups like TLC, Eternal, and Total, grunge, early post-grunge, love ballads, and the like. 1996 was extremely 90s too, but a lot of the most important movements were on the wane that year, not to mention there were a few huge songs that paved the way for 2000s music, like "If Your Girl Only Knew," "No Diggity," and "Pony."

Yes, absolutely. However, Color Me Badd was still popular in 1994 & 1995? I thought I they faded after 1992 or 1993.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 1:32 pm

Yes, absolutely. However, Color Me Badd was still popular in 1994 & 1995? I thought I they faded after 1992 or 1993.

They had "Choose" in early 1994 and then "The Earth, The Sun, The Rain" in 1996.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 1:34 pm

They had "Choose" in early 1994 and then "The Earth, The Sun, The Rain" in 1996.

Those songs were popular?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/13/17 at 1:35 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheEarly90sFan on 04/13/17 at 2:14 pm

The '00seyness of Each '00s Year

1999 - 100% '00s (Year of Pokèmania)
2000 - 98% '00s
2001 - 95% '00s
2002 - 85% '00s
2003 - 75% '00s
2004 - 73% '00s
2005 - 65% '00s
2006 - 55% '00s
2007 - 45% '00s
2008 - 35% '00s
2009 - 25% '00s
2010 - 10% '00s (Law and Order goes off the air)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 2:24 pm

Those songs were popular?

Yeah, "Choose" peaked at #23 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #5 on the Mainstream Top 40 on February 19, 1994; "The Earth, The Sun, The Rain" peaked at #21 on the Hot 100 on June 1, 1996 and #7 on the Mainstream Top 40 on July 13, 1996. Granted, Color Me Badd was much more popular in the early 90s, essentially the heirs to New Kids on the Block at the time, but their two hits from the mid-90s were definitely significant, as well.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/13/17 at 2:26 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 2:26 pm

Yeah, "Choose" peaked at #23 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #5 on the Mainstream Top 40 on February 19, 1994; "The Earth, The Sun, The Rain" peaked at #21 on the Hot 100 on June 1, 1996 and #7 on the Mainstream Top 40 on July 13, 1996. Granted, Color Me Badd was much more popular in the early 90s, essentially the heirs to New Kids on the Block at the time, but their two hits from the mid-90s were definitely significant, as well.

OK, thanks for letting me know :).

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/13/17 at 2:27 pm

How dare you call Bully, Destroy All Humans 2, Okami, and God Hand "forgettable and worn-out".

Those are actually good to great games.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/13/17 at 2:27 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/13/17 at 3:04 pm

How dare you call Bully, Destroy All Humans 2, Okami, and God Hand "forgettable and worn-out".

Every year has its winners, but as a whole, 2006 was a less significant time for hugely successful 6th-gen titles than 2001, 2002, 2004, and 2005 were.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 04/13/17 at 3:41 pm

2005-2008 were the MySpace years statistically

2008 was when Facebook surpassed it in popularity

People underestimate MySpace's popularity even as late as 2009 (though by late 2009 it was clearly on its way out).

Mid '00s Facebook was for college students primarily. Not anybody could join. I honestly miss that Facebook. Back then it was a place where you could express yourself. Today, it's a place for people to stalk you and learn things about you that you don't want them to know. Even in 2008, MySpace was still getting a lot of online and media attention.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/13/17 at 4:18 pm

Mid '00s Facebook was for college students primarily. Not anybody could join. I honestly miss that Facebook. Back then it was a place where you could express yourself. Today, it's a place for people to stalk you and learn things about you that you don't want them to know. Even in 2008, MySpace was still getting a lot of online and media attention.

Which is why Facebook in general is just dangerous to some people. It's easy to know what people do since it has their full name, where they live, where they work and what friends they have.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Catherine91UK on 04/16/17 at 4:47 am

2000: 40%
2001: 50%
2002: 60%
2003: 75%
2004: 90%
2005: 100%
2006: 100%
2007: 80%
2008: 70%
2009: 50%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Eazy-EMAN1995 on 04/16/17 at 1:33 pm

From most to least, IMO
2007
2006
2005
2004
2008
2003
2002
2009
2001
2000

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/17/17 at 1:57 am

1996 - 5%
1997 - 15%
1998 - 25%
1999 - 40%
2000 - 45%
2001 - 50%
2002 - 70%
2003 - 85%
2004 - 100%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 90%
2007 - 75%
2008 - 65%
2009 - 55%
2010 - 40%
2011 - 25%
2012 - 15%
2013 - 5%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/17/17 at 2:22 am

Geez, what's with all the "love" for 2007? That year sticks out like a sore thumb because it represented such a loud and pronounced departure from the hardcore 00s-ness of 2004-2006. Of all the shifts that happened that decade, 2006-2007 was easily the most transformational in my book. I probably view 2007 in the same way that someone 10 years older than me views 1997.

This song and its music video were released in very late 2006, very early 2007. Could this not pass for 2010?

O0lf_fE3HwA

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/17/17 at 2:27 am

Geez, what's with all the "love" for 2007? That year sticks out like a sore thumb because it represented such a loud and pronounced departure from the hardcore 00s-ness of 2004-2006. Of all the shifts that happened that decade, 2006-2007 was easily the most transformational in my book.

I probably view 2007 in the same way that someone 10 years older than me views 1997.

When did you first notice the 06-07 shift? What month of 06 would you say it began?

Most people on this forum point to September-December 2006 as marking the "late 2006 shift", more or less.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/17/17 at 2:43 am

When did you first notice the 06-07 shift? What month of 06 would you say it began?

Most people on this forum point to September-December 2006 as marking the "late 2006 shift", more or less.

Sorry, I can't pinpoint an exact month. I've gone back and forth with 2006. On the one hand I realize that it was a solid mid 00s year, but even at the time I just felt like things were slowly starting to change. It mostly had to do with the rise of YouTube, Wikipedia, Myspace, and Rihanna as well as the time when US housing prices peaked before beginning their steep decline.

2006 was probably the 00s' version of 1996 in that it was unmistakably a mid 00s year, but not quite the absolute peak of 2004-2005.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: nintieskid999 on 04/17/17 at 2:46 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/17/17 at 2:46 am

Sorry, I can't pinpoint an exact month. I've gone back and forth with 2006. On the one hand I realize that it was a solid mid 00s year, but even at the time I just felt like things were slowly starting to change. It mostly had to do with the rise of YouTube, Wikipedia, Myspace, and Rihanna as well as the time when US housing prices peaked before beginning their steep decline.

2006 was probably the 00s' version of 1996 in that it was unmistakably a mid 00s year, but not quite the absolute peak of 2004-2005.

I agree with the part in bold.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/17/17 at 2:47 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/17/17 at 2:48 am

2006 was probably the 00s' version of 1996 in that it was unmistakably a mid 00s year, but not quite the absolute peak of 2004-2005.

True.

Another thing that sets 2006 apart a bit from 2004-2005, in terms of kid culture and my personal life, is that I felt like channels like Nick, CN, and Disney were getting dry and stale in 2006 compared to the awesome years of 2004-2005. I know you were in high school by 06, so you wouldn't know what I'm talking about, lol.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/17/17 at 2:55 am

Looks 00s to me. Could fit into 2006-2008.

I should mention that the music video was shot in late 2006, so it's not fully representative of 2007.

I agree that it's quintessential late 00s, but there's a visual flashiness/tackiness that doesn't make it look too unlike the very early 10s. It could never pass for 2004, but could conceivably pass for 2010.

Contrast that with this:

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Now THAT's what I call very 00s. That look clearly skews older and could pass for as early as 2002. "Sweet Escape" clearly skews the other way.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/17/17 at 2:59 am

There's a visual flashiness/tackiness that doesn't make it look too unlike the very early 10s. Contrast that with this:

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Lord, this is the most 00s thing ever.

People say the 00s had no identity. Well, look at this video and see if you change your mind. ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: nintieskid999 on 04/17/17 at 3:28 am

2003-2005 were the ultimate 00s years

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 04/17/17 at 4:08 am

Now THAT's what I call very 00s. That look clearly skews older and could pass for as early as 2002. "Sweet Escape" clearly skews the other way.

I feel really nostalgic for 2005 now after watching the music video for "Hollaback Girl". :P

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/17/17 at 10:30 pm

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Nah 2006 is way below that. The early 2000s years are actually above 2006, but 2005 is at the highest with 2004 as the second highest. I won't bother making a chart though. But it would certainly look more like from top to bottom than a hill. 2009 should also be all the way down to 0% and 2006 is closer to 50% (definitely not the main 00s year), but I like how you included 2000 as relatively high.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/17/17 at 10:39 pm

2003-2005 were the ultimate 00s years

Yeah I can agree with that, although for me it would be 2000 - 2005. Once 2006 came there were already so many changes happening that we shifted away from the classic 2000s vibe, even though it still felt like the 00s it wasn't the same.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 04/18/17 at 12:23 am

Nah 2006 is way below that. The early 2000s years are actually above 2006, but 2005 is at the highest with 2004 as the second highest. I won't bother making a chart though. But it would certainly look more like from top to bottom than a hill. 2009 should also be all the way down to 0% and 2006 is closer to 50% (definitely not the main 00s year), but I like how you included 2000 as relatively high.

I don't think so. The '00s came in slowly and they went out very quickly. 2006 was the most '00s year with absolutely no '10s influences that year. 2007 was close to it but the release of the iPhone and the overall shift to Web 2.0 is enough to drop 10%. By 2009, I would say 30% '00s was just about right. '09 wasn't all electropop, smartphones, and Facebook. There were quite a bit of '00sey stuff still around then. That was the year it lost its dominance though.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/18/17 at 12:32 am

Slim lives in Canada so maybe 2006 was more changeful for him.

Here in america, 2006 wasn't THAT different from 2005 until Sept-December, when the big changes began coming in.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 12:58 am

I don't think so. The '00s came in slowly and they went out very quickly. 2006 was the most '00s year with absolutely no '10s influences that year. 2007 was close to it but the release of the iPhone and the overall shift to Web 2.0 is enough to drop 10%. By 2009, I would say 30% '00s was just about right. '09 wasn't all electropop, smartphones, and Facebook. There were quite a bit of '00sey stuff still around then. That was the year it lost its dominance though.

2006 wasn't '10s, but it wasn't purely 00s either. 2005 was the most '00sey year.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 12:59 am

Slim lives in Canada so maybe 2006 was more changeful for him.

Here in america, 2006 wasn't THAT different from 2005 until Sept-December, when the big changes began coming in.

It wasn't extremely different, but it still had a slightly different vibe and more futuristic feel to it.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/18/17 at 1:24 am

2006 wasn't '10s, but it wasn't purely 00s either. 2005 was the most '00sey year.

Exactly. The year 2006 was unquestionably 00s, but not quite to the degree as 2004 and 2005. There were qualities about 2006 (primitive social media, emo music, the economy beginning to decline) that foreshadowed what was to come in 2007-08. Still a very mid 00s year, but some qualities made it swing more toward 2008 than 2004.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 04/18/17 at 1:33 am

Exactly. The year 2006 was unquestionably 00s, but not quite to the degree as 2004 and 2005. There were qualities about 2006 (primitive social media, emo music, the economy beginning to decline) that foreshadowed what was to come in 2007-08. Still a very mid 00s year, but some qualities made it swing more toward 2008 than 2004.

I can see the case that '06 was the downhill side of the mid '00s...but it still was about as '00s as it can get. The last, minute traces of the '90s were completely gone by that year and there was nothing that could remotely be tied to the '10s that year either.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/18/17 at 1:44 am

I can see the case that '06 was the downhill side of the mid '00s...but it still was about as '00s as it can get. The last, minute traces of the '90s were completely gone by that year and there was nothing that could remotely be tied to the '10s that year either.

If 2006 was when the mid 00s were winding down and the last bit of 90s influences waning, then that inherently symbolizes a foreshadowing of the 10s. That's different than saying that 2006 had 10s influences, which wouldn't manifest themselves until the following year.

The bottom line is that 2006 was clearly a transitional year. One only needs to look at how culturally far apart 2005 and 2007 were.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/18/17 at 1:46 am

I can see the case that '06 was the downhill side of the mid '00s...but it still was about as '00s as it can get. The last, minute traces of the '90s were completely gone by that year and there was nothing that could remotely be tied to the '10s that year either.

What was still 90s about 2005?

2006 isn't the quintessential 2000s year in my opinion because post-9/11 patriotism, thug rap, and a lot of other early-mid-2000s trends had declined by that year. Also, Facebook and YouTube becoming mainstream slowly but surely laid the foundations of what would become a 2010s world. In 2005, the only social media anybody really used was MySpace, which can only be described as 2000s, unlike Facebook. Add to that 6th generation gaming being past its peak and the 7th generation (largely early 2010s, not purely 2000s like 6th-gen sans the Dreamcast) being roughly as popular, and you get a year leaning heavily into 2000s territory.

In 2005, you already had snap, pop-emo, early Chris Brown and Rihanna, Kanye West, the Pussycat Dolls, the ring tone craze, iPods, Nintendo DS, bushy hair, the first Nolan Batman movie, The Office, and plenty of other significant things important to the late 2000s, but these existed concurrently with support for George W. Bush still being strong (Hurricane Katrina was the clincher), Eminem, Lil' Jon, and 50 Cent still being the biggest faces in rap; Revenge of the Sith, first-half-of-2000s-style pop punk, and early 2000s tv shows. It was clearly a much techier time than the late 90s/Y2K era, but it wasn't creeping too far ahead, either.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 1:47 am

I can't believe that people are still saying that 2006 wasn't a very '00s year and the world went to sh*t in late 2006. Please STOP IT >:(.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/18/17 at 1:48 am

I can't believe that people are still saying that 2006 wasn't a very '00s year and the world went to sh*t in late 2006. Please STOP IT >:(.

Only that's not what we're saying.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/18/17 at 1:51 am

I can't believe that people are still saying that 2006 wasn't a very '00s year and the world went to sh*t in late 2006. Please STOP IT >:(.

It was almost a purely 2000s year, but it had a few key things that link it to the early 2010s, whereas 2005 stands pretty much completely within its own decade. Also, I don't think everything got bad in late 2006. The rise of YouTube was one of the most exciting experiences I've ever had in the evolution of popular culture.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/18/17 at 1:52 am

What was still 90s about 2005?

90s influences vs 90s zeitgeist (90s basically meaning 1999)

The former lasted through 2003, the latter 2006.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 1:53 am

Only that's not what we're saying.

What is this?.....
"I can see the case that '06 was the downhill side of the mid '00s"

"2006 wasn't '10s, but it wasn't purely 00s either."

"2006 wasn't THAT different from 2005 until Sept-December, when the big changes began coming in."

"Nah 2006 is way below that. The early 2000s years are actually above 2006, but 2005 is at the highest with 2004 as the second highest....2006 is closer to 50% (definitely not the main 00s year)"

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 1:54 am

It was almost a purely 2000s year, but it had a few key things that link it to the early 2010s, whereas 2005 stands pretty much completely within its own decade. Also, I don't think everything got bad in late 2006. The rise of YouTube was one of the most exciting experiences I've ever had in the evolution of popular culture.

I wasn't talking about you #Infinity....you're fine :). It's others on this thread that I'm talking about.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/18/17 at 1:57 am

What is this?.....
"I can see the case that '06 was the downhill side of the mid '00s"

"2006 wasn't '10s, but it wasn't purely 00s either."

"2006 wasn't THAT different from 2005 until Sept-December, when the big changes began coming in."

"Nah 2006 is way below that. The early 2000s years are actually above 2006, but 2005 is at the highest with 2004 as the second highest....2006 is closer to 50% (definitely not the main 00s year)"

I pegged 2006 at 90% 2000s. That's still pretty 2000s, don't you think?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 1:59 am

I pegged 2006 at 90% 2000s.

Did I say you specifically? I was making a general statement because I've seen enough of this.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/18/17 at 2:01 am

90s influences vs 90s zeitgeist (90s basically meaning 1999)

The former lasted through 2003, the latter 2006.

What do you even mean by 90s zeitgeist? I think you've got it the other way around. The 90s zeitgeist, depending on your perspective, died either around 1997 with the displacement of scroungy counterculture in favor of shiny, bubbly, techy commercialism or 2001 with the inauguration of George W. Bush and the September 11 attacks. 90s influences became the minority around mid-1999 but continued as late as 2004, when Friends and Frasier finally went off the air and certain distinctly 90s technologies like VHS made their very last stand.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 04/18/17 at 2:07 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/18/17 at 2:11 am

What do you even mean by 90s zeitgeist? I think you've got it the other way around. The 90s zeitgeist, depending on your perspective, died either around 1997 with the displacement of scroungy counterculture in favor of shiny, bubbly, techy commercialism or 2001 with the inauguration of George W. Bush and the September 11 attacks. 90s influences became the minority around mid-1999 but continued as late as 2004, when Friends and Frasier finally went off the air and certain distinctly 90s technologies like VHS made their very last stand.

Perhaps I should've called it millennium zeitgeist, which was centered around 1999-2003 but had its earliest roots as far back as 1996 (which was a very 90s year, hence '90s zeitgeist'). Basically, the millennium zeitgeist spanned the period from the rise of the Internet and cell phones (see Motorola StarTAC) to when the very first signs of 10s-ish technology began appearing in 2007.

I'm also skeptical about the notion of 90s influences appearing "as late as 2004," when the only justification provided is two TV shows. Why those TV shows? I could point to 2003, the year when Dawson's Creek was replaced with One Tree Hill and The OC. I could point to 2005, when Everybody Loves Raymond (another popular 90s sitcom) and NYPD Blue ended.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 04/18/17 at 2:17 am

To me the 00's began 100% in 2003. I'm simplifying, of course. I guess you could pick up crumbs all the way up to 2006, if anyone wants.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 04/18/17 at 2:48 am

To me the 00's began 100% in 2003. I'm simplifying, of course. I guess you could pick up crumbs all the way up to 2006, if anyone wants.

Yes, 2003 was nearly 100% 2000s in my book. There were residual Y2K influences, but only to a marginal degree. I distinctly remember thinking at the time just how "un-90s" everything looked and felt. Bubblegum pop was dead with NSYNC totally irrelevant, Britney and Christina changed their images and were no longer "innocent," Dawson's Creek went off the air and was replaced by One Tree Hill and The OC, the US invaded Iraq and post-9/11 sympathy began to dissipate, frosted tips and puka shell necklaces were either already out or on their way out, fashion styles became less tacky and a little more subdued like in 1997, Kobe Bryant's reputation took a turn for the worse with the sexual assault case, etc.

It was a very unique year, to say the least. Post-Y2K but not quite the pure 2000s-ness of 2004 and 2005.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 04/18/17 at 3:10 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 8:58 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 9:01 am

I can't believe that people are still saying that 2006 wasn't a very '00s year and the world went to sh*t in late 2006. Please STOP IT >:(.

You were like 7 in 2006 so maybe that's why you like it so much. ;D But really I'm not saying 2006 isn't '00s, I'm just saying it is not as strong of 2000s identity as 2005 was.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/18/17 at 9:15 am

I think he's referring to early-mid 2006 being the last time of very minor 90s influences still being around. You could still get away with certain late 90s/early 00s fashion, such as khaki cargo pants, as Chris mentioned. You could still buy a CD from Sam Goody or Wherehouse Music. You could still shop at CompUSA and Circuit City. Late 90s shows such as That 70s Show, Charmed, and Will & Grace had their final seasons that year. Little things like that.

Those aren't truly 90s things like Friends and Frasisr are though. The 1998 tv debuts are more 2000s because they were on television for far more or the 2000s than the 90s and only came out as the classic 90s were on the decline, anyway. If anything, the death of variety at malls was a vital step closer towards the 2010s, which has entirely been defined by online shopping and streaming rather than electronics and video rental stores still being quite popular for a massive chunck of the decade and not just the first few years.

True 90s fashion is things like bowl cuts, flannel shirts, the Rachel, curtained hair, denim overalls, and the like. I hate when people associate things from the Y2K era as distinctly 90s when much of it is actually quite different from the majority of the 90s and is aesthetically closer to 2000s stuff.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 9:21 am

Those aren't truly 90s things like Friends and Frasisr are though. The 1998 tv debuts are more 2000s because they were on television for far more or the 2000s than the 90s and only came out as the classic 90s were on the decline, anyway. If anything, the death of variety at malls was a vital step closer towards the 2010s, which has entirely been defined by online shopping and streaming rather than electronics and video rental stores still being quite popular for a massive chunck of the decade and not just the first few years.

True 90s fashion is things like bowl cuts, flannel shirts, the Rachel, curtained hair, denim overalls, and the like. I hate when people associate things from the Y2K era as distinctly 90s when much of it is actually quite different from the majority of the 90s and is aesthetically closer to 2000s stuff.

I agree. Stuff from Y2K is actually more 00s than 90s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 9:55 am

You were like 7 in 2006 so maybe that's why you like it so much. ;D But really I'm not saying 2006 isn't '00s, I'm just saying it is not as strong of 2000s identity as 2005 was.

Are you being ageist right now? ;). Anyways, 2006 was almost as strong in '00s identity as 2005 but 2004 and 2005 were the strongest '00s years.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/18/17 at 9:58 am

Are you being ageist right now? ;). Anyways, 2006 was almost as strong in '00s identity as 2005 but 2004 and 2005 were the strongest '00s years.

2004 and 2005 were better than 2006 in terms of culture. But 2006 (at least for the early and mid parts) were pretty good.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 10:20 am

2004 and 2005 were better than 2006 in terms of culture. But 2006 (at least for the early and mid parts) were pretty good.

What's with this disdain for the end of 2006? ???

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/18/17 at 11:13 am

What's with this disdain for the end of 2006? ???

It's mostly Zelek's thing. I personally don't think the mid 2000s ended by late 2006, but rather in mid 2007 when The Sopranos ended. Having late 2006 in doesn't really make a lot of sense, since there was still a few core 2000s shows running new episodes by the end of 2006. Mid 2007 was a game changer for me because that's when most, if not, all mid 2000s influences were gone already in my opinion.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 11:18 am

It's mostly Zelek's thing. I personally don't think the mid 2000s ended by late 2006, but rather in mid 2007 when The Sopranos ended. Having late 2006 in doesn't really make a lot of sense, since there was still a few core 2000s shows running new episodes by the end of 2006. Mid 2007 was a game changer for me because that's when most, if not, all mid 2000s influences were gone already in my opinion.

Yeah, I agree. 2006 felt pretty much the same as 2005 to me. Around mid 2007 (or 2007 in general) was when I noticed a big difference from 2004-2006.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/18/17 at 11:29 am

Yeah, I agree. 2006 felt pretty much the same as 2005 to me. Around mid 2007 (or 2007 in general) was when I noticed a big difference from 2004-2006.

2006 to me was like part 2 of 2005, except most of its influences were watered down.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 11:32 am

It's not so much about mid vs. late 00s for me. It's just that 2006 had a slightly different vibe than 2005, that's all. You can say that for many '00s years because it was a changeful and inconsistent decade for the most part. Highschool Musical came out in early 2006 and that kind of felt different than the Disney movies prior to that.

So with the '00s it's not so clear on the exact years of the early, mid, and latr portions. For example many people believe 2004 was the start to the mid '00s but I believe it was 2003 as there were already changes from 2002 like 50 Cent coming in the spotlight. I also think the late '00s and early '10s was its own little era. But with the 2010s it's a lot more clear on what the portions are because it is a lot more of a gradual change in the decade.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 11:41 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 11:44 am

So because a new DCOM came out (be mindful that High School Musical was filmed/shot in 2005).....2006 was "a slightly different vibe" from 2005? ::). No way, 2006 was 99.5% the same to 2005.

That's not the only difference. I didn't know YouTube existed in 2005 but I did in 2006. Technology and cell phones started to look newer, shows and music started to suck more. Little differences like that. It wasn't identitcal to 2005. Pretty much no years in the '00s are exactly alike to each other.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 11:47 am

That's not the only difference. I didn't know YouTube existed in 2005 but I did in 2006. Technology and cell phones started to look newer, shows and music started to suck more. Little differences like that. It wasn't identitcal to 2005. Pretty much no years in the '00s are exactly alike to each other.

"Pretty much no years in the '00s are exactly alike to each other.".....also, every year in general is not exactly like each other. 2006 and 2005 were virtually the same with very small, subtle differences.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 11:50 am

"Pretty much no years in the '00s are exactly alike to each other.".....also, every year in general is not exactly like each other. 2006 and 2005 were virtually the same with very small, subtle differences.

Not in general. The 2000s are a special case. I can pick two years of the 2010s who are far more alike to each other. In my opinion, 2006 and 2007 are probably the two most alike years in the '00s and even they have a few differences.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 11:53 am

Not in general. The 2000s are a special case. I can pick two years of the 2010s who are far more alike to each other. In my opinion, 2006 and 2007 are probably the two most alike years in the '00s and even they have a few differences.

Yes, in general. What are you talking about? Every year is slightly different from each other....2013 and 2014 are extremely similar but have small, subtle differences (same thing with other years). 2001 and 2002 are the most alike years of the 2000s, IMO.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 11:59 am

Yes, in general. What are you talking about? Every year is slightly different from each other....2013 and 2014 are extremely similar but have small, subtle differences (same thing with other years). 2001 and 2002 are the most alike years of the 2000s, IMO.

No 2013 and 2014 are not "extremely" similar to each other. 2014 and 2015 are however. 2013 was still an early '10s year for the fist part, fairly different and some notable cultural differences. Although I would agree every year from the '10s is not drastically different. And again, generally not all years from all decades have years that are as different to each other as the '00s. Both the 1990s and 2000s have this as they were extremely changeful decades.

Yeah 2001 and 2002 would be my second choice, or '04 and '05, but overall the '00s were not consistent and they were very changeful. That's why it often gets the title of not having a clear identity.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 12:04 pm

No 2013 and 2014 are not "extremely" similar to each other. 2014 and 2015 are however. 2013 was still an early '10s year for the fist part, fairly different and some notable cultural differences. Although I would agree every year from the '10s is not drastically different. And again, generally not all years from all decades have years that are as different to each other as the '00s. Both the 1990s and 2000s have this as they were extremely changeful decades.

Yeah 2001 and 2002 would be my second choice, or '04 and '05, but overall the '00s were not consistent and they were very changeful. That's why it often gets the title of not having a clear identity.

Did this man really say that 2013 and 2014 are not very similar to each other? :(. OK, I have nothing more to say.....:-X.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 04/18/17 at 12:09 pm

Yes, 2003 was nearly 100% 2000s in my book. There were residual Y2K influences, but only to a marginal degree. I distinctly remember thinking at the time just how "un-90s" everything looked and felt. Bubblegum pop was dead with NSYNC totally irrelevant, Britney and Christina changed their images and were no longer "innocent," Dawson's Creek went off the air and was replaced by One Tree Hill and The OC, the US invaded Iraq and post-9/11 sympathy began to dissipate, frosted tips and puka shell necklaces were either already out or on their way out, fashion styles became less tacky and a little more subdued like in 1997, Kobe Bryant's reputation took a turn for the worse with the sexual assault case, etc.

It was a very unique year, to say the least. Post-Y2K but not quite the pure 2000s-ness of 2004 and 2005.

Yeah, the whole Y2K vibe was pretty much dead by 2003, especially the later part of the year. On the music front, the only Y2K genre that was still popular in 2003 was Nu Metal. Yes, it was on it's last legs by that point, but it was still culturally relevant. Meteora from Linkin Park was massive in the summer of 2003, and was really the last big Nu Metal album. Also Limp Bizkit had their last hit that fall with their cover of Behind Blue Eyes. Pop-Punk still had some relevance as well in the form of groups like Good Charlotte and The Ataris, who had big hits that year.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/18/17 at 12:15 pm

Did this man really say that 2013 and 2014 are not very similar to each other? :(. OK, I have nothing more to say.....:-X.

Yes. January 2013 is a little different from December 2013 on a musical (and even fashion to some extent) standpoint. Summer 2013 was pretty changeful, only late 2013 and 2014 were very similar to each other, not 2013 and 2014 as a whole. 2014 was the first full year of the mid '10s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 12:19 pm

Yes. January 2013 is a little different from December 2013 on a musical (and even fashion to some extent) standpoint. Summer 2013 was pretty changeful, only late 2013 and 2014 were very similar to each other, not 2013 and 2014 as a whole. 2014 was the first full year of the mid '10s.

"OK, I have nothing more to say.....:-X".

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 04/18/17 at 12:38 pm

"OK, I have nothing more to say.....:-X".

Much like what everyone said, Slim95 lives in Canada. Whatever they had back in 2006 was quite different in America. I'm not really sure how different, but it's probably noticeable for people like Slim95.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/18/17 at 12:44 pm

Much like what everyone said, Slim95 lives in Canada. Whatever they had back in 2006 was quite different in America. I'm not really sure how different, but it's probably noticeable for people like Slim95.

¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 04/18/17 at 3:17 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/18/17 at 3:50 pm

This exactly.

The '90s or even Y2K zeitgeist was long gone by 2006. However, there were still small ripples of the '90s that finally fizzled out in 2006. The things you mention are among them.

But those don't even qualify as ripples of the 90s. Did you read my post at the end of page 5? Why do things like electronic stores and Will & Grace count as "90s" influences, whereas YouTube and Facebook, both much more relevant and present during the 2010s than the 2000s, are strictly 2000s things? Are 30 Rock, PS3, and Dexter also purely 2000s and not at least partially 2010s?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 04/18/17 at 4:03 pm

But those don't even qualify as ripples of the 90s. Did you read my post at the end of page 5? Why do things like electronic stores and Will & Grace count as "90s" influences, whereas YouTube and Facebook, both much more relevant and present during the 2010s than the 2000s, are strictly 2000s things? Are 30 Rock, PS3, and Dexter also purely 2000s and not at least partially 2010s?

I do consider those things to be "ripples of the '90s"

When looking at YouTube and Facebook in the late '00s, its important to remember that they weren't used the same way they have been in the '10s. I miss YouTube in the days when you could simply record a video on your digital camera and upload it without any editing and get noticed. Facebook was WAAAAAY cooler back then (I despise what it's become today).

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/3218/2777/1600/Youtube.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jokCW7hePbM/VSHMWGhebcI/AAAAAAAAFWw/QVkuzDc-lYg/s1600/FirstVersions_Facebook-profile-screenshot.png

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 04/18/17 at 5:21 pm

I do consider those things to be "ripples of the '90s"

How? Your argument is pretty much equivalent to 70s influences still existing well into the second half of the 80s because vinyl records were still relatively popular and cassettes and CD's hadn't killed them off completely yet. In the same way the 1980s were ultimately a mixture of all three major music formats with cassettes having the overall edge, the 2000s were overall defined by the decline, but not full extinction of non-clothing and phone stores at malls. In fact, many of these "90s" businesses didn't die off for a few more years after 2006. Were Tarzan, Hercules, and Mulan ripples of the 80s just because the first Disney Renaissance film came out during an otherwise majority-80s point in time?

When looking at YouTube and Facebook in the late '00s, its important to remember that they weren't used the same way they have been in the '10s. I miss YouTube in the days when you could simply record a video on your digital camera and upload it without any editing and get noticed. Facebook was WAAAAAY cooler back then (I despise what it's become today).

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/3218/2777/1600/Youtube.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jokCW7hePbM/VSHMWGhebcI/AAAAAAAAFWw/QVkuzDc-lYg/s1600/FirstVersions_Facebook-profile-screenshot.png

Of course Facebook and YouTube have evolved over the course of time, but does that necessarily undermine their basic foundations? Say whay you want about their commercialization, but YouTube is still a user-based video uploading website popular for clips of all sorts just as it was in 2006, while Facebook is still a popular social media outlet that allows people to more comprehensively communicate with and learn about each other or organize groups, just as was the case in 2006. No amount of facelifts can change that. If it were MySpace in the 2010s versus the 2000s, then I could understand where you're coming from, as the primary features of that site have radically transformed since its prime, but you can still watch a hobby tutorial, a music video, a news story, a home video, or an episode of Smosh or AVGN today on YouTube as you could in '06, just as you can keep track of those you've friended and pages you've liked or joined on Facebook as was the case over a decade ago.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/19/17 at 11:01 am

The "90s influence" of 2006 all boils down to this: "we wore baggy cargo pants in 2006 and shopped at the mall until the end of the year. In 2007 we did not so things were more modern now." ::)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/19/17 at 11:11 am

Where I live people still wear cargo pants in 2017. :-X

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/19/17 at 11:13 am

I've been wearing the same pants since 1995 so not all 90's influences have died out.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/19/17 at 11:18 am

I've been wearing the same pants since 1995 so not all 90's influences have died out.

I still see some people wearing flannel and backward baseball caps!

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/19/17 at 11:21 am

I still see some people wearing flannel and backward baseball caps!

But those are probably young millennials co-opting the style. ::) I have been wearing the same clothes since the 90's and, since it is a direct continuation of something that began in the 90's, it is therefore a rippling vestige of the 90's. I am the last 90's influence and I did not stop in late 2006.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/19/17 at 12:10 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: YuYuYuuki on 05/02/17 at 8:44 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/02/17 at 8:46 pm

Remember all that painfully radical slang TOM 3 used back in the day on Toonami? Back when it was current, we all loved him for that. Now we all look back and say, "what the halibut is this? This screams 2004."

YuYuYuuki, you're doing this on pretty much every thread and it's becoming essentially spam. Can you stop?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: YuYuYuuki on 05/03/17 at 1:43 pm

YuYuYuuki, you're doing this on pretty much every thread and it's becoming essentially spam. Can you stop?

Lol, Toonami is what I grew up with the most! Sorry, I'll stop (right now, thank you very much, I need somebody with a human touch!)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 1:46 pm

Lol, Toonami is what I grew up with the most! Sorry, I'll stop (right now, thank you very much, I need somebody with a human touch!)

It's OK, I hope I didn't come off the wrong way. I grew up with Toonami as well :).

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 05/03/17 at 2:23 pm

The most 00's years were 2003 to 2005.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/03/17 at 2:27 pm

The most 00's years were 2003 to 2005.

For me, 2000 - 2005.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: nintieskid999 on 05/03/17 at 3:32 pm

The most 00's years were 2003 to 2005.

Same

Almost everything I think of when it comes to the 00s are from those 3 years.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/03/17 at 3:46 pm

Same

Almost everything I think of when it comes to the 00s are from those 3 years.

I think of the 2000s mainly from the early part as well, 2000 - 2002.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 6:03 pm

2000 to 2002 are the only good years of the 00's.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/03/17 at 8:18 pm

2001 to 2009 are the only good years of the 00's.

lol. changed it for you ;D ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 8:23 pm

lol. changed it for you ;D ;D

You didn't like 2000?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/03/17 at 8:26 pm

2000 to 2002 are the only good years of the 00's.

*2000-2005, pleb. How can you exclude the year where Revenge of the Sith came out, Starship released their comeback song "Katrina", and the iconic Diet Coke commercial came out:

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Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 8:27 pm

*2000-2005, pleb. How can you exclude the year where Revenge of the Sith came out, and Starship released their comeback song "Katrina".

Zelek, I know you think "the prequels suck" so don't try and pull that one on me. ::)

You're right about Katrina, though. That song is godly.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 05/03/17 at 8:28 pm

You're right about Katrina, though. That song is godly.

Yep, it was the perfect song to help New Orleaners heal after Hurricane Katrina hit and Bush put them in FEMA camps.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 8:34 pm

Yep, it was the perfect song to help New Orleaners heal after Hurricane Katrina hit and Bush put them in FEMA camps.

Mickey Thomas is just a generous soul. How many other singers would of written such a heart touching song? None but him. We're lucky to have a man like him gracing the music world.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 9:09 pm

You didn't like 2000?

NewYorkRaven was only a baby for almost all of the year 2000 (he was born 12/21/99). So, I don't think the year 2000 has any influence on him. I turned 1 on 07/13/00 and I don't remember a single thing from that year.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/03/17 at 10:06 pm

You didn't like 2000?

Nah, it's more like a 90s year to me.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 10:07 pm

Nah, it's more like a 90s year to me.

2000? '90s? ??? What?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 10:37 pm

2000? '90s? ??? What?

I don't get it either. 2000 was nothing like the 90's.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 10:52 pm

I don't get it either. 2000 was nothing like the 90's.

Yeah...I don't get what his point was, lol.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 10:53 pm

Yeah...I don't get what his point was, lol.

And, like you said, he doesn't even remember 1999 so it wouldn't really have any influence on him. I don't know how he can say it's "90s".

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 05/03/17 at 10:55 pm

For me, 2000 - 2005.

Maybe.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/03/17 at 10:55 pm

And, like you said, he doesn't even remember 1999 so it wouldn't really have any influence on him. I don't know how he can say it's "90s".

*2000 but you're definitely correct.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 05/03/17 at 10:56 pm

2000 to 2002 are the only good years of the 00's.

Jordan isn't a fan of 2003! ;D ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/03/17 at 10:57 pm

*2000 but you're definitely correct.

Oh, right. Thanks. My brain was on auto pilot that moment. :P

Jordan isn't a fan of 2003! ;D ;D

I mean, I like some stuff but overall it was a pretty crummy year that felt very washed out.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 05/03/17 at 11:17 pm

Oh, right. Thanks. My brain was on auto pilot that moment. :P

I mean, I like some stuff but overall it was a pretty crummy year that felt very washed out.

Mainstream music was pretty bad, in my eyes, by 2003!

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/03/17 at 11:38 pm

I don't get it either. 2000 was nothing like the 90's.

It was nearly identical to 1999.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: nintieskid999 on 05/03/17 at 11:40 pm

It was nearly identical to 1999.

As I like to say, the real late 90s era was 1997 and 1998.

The late 98 through mid 01 period was the Y2K era.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/04/17 at 12:05 am

2000 was nothing like the '90s. It was definitely a 2000s year.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/04/17 at 12:09 am

2000 was early 00's, not 90's.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/04/17 at 1:37 am

2000 was early 00's, not 90's.

Exactly

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/04/17 at 6:27 am

I don't get it either. 2000 was nothing like the 90's.

I meant that it was a cultural 90s year.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/04/17 at 6:38 am

I meant that it was a cultural 90s year.

2000 was NOT a cultural '90s year. That's a common misconception.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/04/17 at 11:42 am

I meant that it was a cultural 90s year.

How was it culturally 90s? It wasn't...

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/05/17 at 12:14 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 05/05/17 at 11:34 am

I never understand people who claim the year 2000 is '90s. The '90s were long gone when 2000 came. I've seen mostly little kids saying this in the early 2010s but looks like some people still think that the early 2000s is an extension of the 90s, it ISN'T!

2000 was Y2K era, which for me, lasted from the Columbine shooting through 9/11. There were a lot of '90s holdovers but the year doesn't firmly fit into either the '90s or the '00s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/05/17 at 12:32 pm

2000 was Y2K era, which for me, lasted from the Columbine shooting through 9/11. There were a lot of '90s holdovers but the year doesn't firmly fit into either the '90s or the '00s.

Not really. The '90s ended in late 1998. The Y2K era fits way more with the 2000s, not the '90s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 05/05/17 at 12:46 pm

Not really. The '90s ended in late 1998. The Y2K era fits way more with the 2000s, not the '90s.

It wasn't entirely 2000s, though. Most of the teen pop at the time, certain fashion like curtained cuts and Rachels, VHS dominating home video, Bill Clinton still being President, 9/11 not having occurred yet, and video games still mostly being 5th-gen despite the Dreamcast are all factors that lean more towards the 1990s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/05/17 at 12:47 pm

Not really. The '90s ended in late 1998. The Y2K era fits way more with the 2000s, not the '90s.

No, the 1990s ended on December 31, 1999. However, the cultural '90s ended in late 1998/early 1999.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/05/17 at 1:05 pm

No, the 1990s ended on December 31, 1999. However, the cultural '90s ended in late 1998/early 1999.

THIS

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 05/05/17 at 4:45 pm

2006 was pretty 00's. But it was a more advanced type of 00's, if that makes sense. :o

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/05/17 at 5:05 pm

2006 was pretty 00's. But it was a more advanced type of 00's, if that makes sense. :o

It was not as 00sey as 2005 and before.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 80sfan on 05/05/17 at 5:09 pm

It was not as 00sey as 2005 and before.

Karma.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: the2001 on 05/05/17 at 7:58 pm

Exactly

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: the2001 on 05/05/17 at 8:03 pm

I will say in 2007 we were at 66% 00s ness

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/07/17 at 8:45 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/07/17 at 8:48 pm

It wasn't entirely 2000s, though. Most of the teen pop at the time, certain fashion like curtained cuts and Rachels, VHS dominating home video, Bill Clinton still being President, 9/11 not having occurred yet, and video games still mostly being 5th-gen despite the Dreamcast are all factors that lean more towards the 1990s.

The Y2K stuff isn't '90s either though. It belongs more to the 2000s than the '90s. The true '90s culture was early and mid '90s stuff. The '90s died in late 1998.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/07/17 at 8:54 pm

2000 was Y2K era, which for me, lasted from the Columbine shooting through 9/11. There were a lot of '90s holdovers but the year doesn't firmly fit into either the '90s or the '00s.

It doesn't belong to either cultural decade, but I think that the year 2000 clearly leans more toward the late 90s than the actual 00s economically, technologically, geopolitically, musically, etc.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/07/17 at 8:57 pm

The Y2K stuff isn't '90s either though. It belongs more to the 2000s than the '90s. The true '90s culture was early and mid '90s stuff. The '90s died in late 1998.

The Y2K stuff isn't 00s either though. Everything that #Infinity listed was gone or no longer relevant by 2003, the start of the real 00s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/07/17 at 8:59 pm

The Y2K stuff isn't 00s either though. Everything that #Infinity listed was gone by 2003, the start of the real 00s.

Y2K stuff IS 2000s stuff. That is all part of 2000s culture. The countdown to 2000 is also part of the new millennium culture. Maybe not as 00sey as 2004 or 2005 or the regular early 2000s, but certainly a huge part of 2000s culture nonetheless. People around this time had the mentality to forget about the 1990s and focus on the new decade/millennium. This started in 1999.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/07/17 at 9:02 pm

Y2K stuff IS 2000s stuff. That is all part of 2000s culture. The countdown to 2000 is also part of the new millennium culture. Maybe not as 00sey as 2004 or 2005 or the regular early 2000s, but certainly a huge part of 2000s culture nonetheless.

Millennium culture =/= 2000s culture

The new millennium started in 2001, BTW. Look it up.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/07/17 at 9:05 pm

Millennium culture =/= 2000s culture

The new millennium started in 2001, BTW. Look it up.

It certainly does equal 2000s culture. Even by the mentality of people at the time, they wanted to leave the 1990s. When someone says "2000s decade" I immediately think of Y2K and early 2000s stuff, not the more boring mid 2000s stuff and certainly nothing from the late 2000s. Y2K is the most memorable part of the decade.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: the2001 on 05/07/17 at 9:15 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/07/17 at 9:19 pm

It certainly does equal 2000s culture. Even by the mentality of people at the time, they wanted to leave the 1990s. When someone says "2000s decade" I immediately think of Y2K and early 2000s stuff, not the more boring mid 2000s stuff and certainly nothing from the late 2000s. Y2K is the most memorable part of the decade.

What about Y2K definitively ties it more to the 2000s, other than chronology? The years 1999 and 2000 share the following in common with the culture of the late 90s (1997-1998):

- Bill Clinton
- 20th century
- Pre-9/11
- Dot-com bubble
- Bubblegum pop
- Internet and cell phone usage still in its infancy

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/07/17 at 9:24 pm

What about Y2K definitively ties it more to the 2000s? The year 2000 shares the following in common with the culture of the late 90s (1997-1998):

- Bill Clinton
- 20th century
- Pre-9/11
- Dot-com bubble
- Bubblegum pop
- Internet and cell phone usage still in its infancy

The fact we were entering another mellenium alone makes it more 2000s. Bubblegum pop is more 2000s than '90s as well. The internet was not at its infancy and it was already getting bigger at this time, the internet was at its infancy in the mid and late '90s but by 2000 anyone in the middle class could have had it. The only thing I'll give to you is Bill Clinton, but that's pretty minor with all the changes the Y2K era brought, and these all belong to the 2000s. The 2000s are mostly defined by the early part of the decade, 2000 - 2005. We were certainly NOT in the '90s in the year 2000.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: nintieskid999 on 05/07/17 at 9:31 pm

The year 2000 also had reality TV shows premiering like Big Brother and Survivor, which was a cornerstone to the 00s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/07/17 at 9:41 pm

The fact we were entering another mellenium alone makes it more 2000s.

The years 1999 and 2000 were part of the 20th century. We were on the verge of the new millennium in 1997 as well, so what's your point? Jamie Kennedy's character in the 1996 film Scream even mentions the millennium.

Bubblegum pop is more 2000s than '90s as well.

LOL. Bubblegum pop was already on its way out in 2001 and was in rapid decline by 2002.

The internet was not at its infancy and it was already getting bigger at this time, the internet was at its infancy in the mid and late '90s but by 2000 anyone in the middle class could have had it.

Semantics. Only a minority of American households had internet access and owned mobile phones.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/07/17 at 9:48 pm

The years 1999 and 2000 were part of the 20th century. We were on the verge of the new millennium in 1997 as well, so what's your point? Jamie Kennedy's character in the 1996 film Scream even mentions the millennium.

LOL. Bubblegum pop was already on its way out in 2001 and was in rapid decline by 2002.

Semantics. Only a minority of American households had internet access and owned mobile phones.

I mostly agree with you. However, I feel that 2000 was just a unique year. It was 50% late '90s culture and 50% early '00s culture, IMO.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/07/17 at 9:53 pm

The year 2000 also had reality TV shows premiering like Big Brother and Survivor, which was a cornerstone to the 00s.

I've never watched either show, but how are those any different than Real World (premiered 1992) and Road Rules (premiered 1995)? The concepts don't seem that radically different.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 05/07/17 at 10:33 pm

The years 1999 and 2000 were part of the 20th century. We were on the verge of the new millennium in 1997 as well, so what's your point? Jamie Kennedy's character in the 1996 film Scream even mentions the millennium.

Going off of what you said, even in 1995, the "new millennium" was getting people excited. That year, the creepy talking head Sega Saturn commercial opened with, "We are 5 years away from entering the 21st Century," while Blur's "The Universal" began with "This is the next century, where the universal's free."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEHWHgbU5Jw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrbxWOMpwfs

Regardless of whether we were approaching a new millennium or just a new decade, being in the chronological 90s gravitates a year's culture towards the 90s, while being in the chronological 2000s weighs it towards the 2000s.

LOL. Bubblegum pop was already on its way out in 2001 and was in rapid decline by 2002.

Yeah, 2000s music was primarily a backlash against the carefree cheesiness of the 1990s, its stereotypes instead being morose and crass. The Backstreet Boys had more in common with Color Me Badd than they did the Jonas Brothers, not counting their 2005 comeback album Never Gone.

I've never watched either show, but how are those any different than Real World (premiered 1992) and Road Rules (premiered 1995)? The concepts don't seem that radically different.

They launched reality television into the primary focus of television networks and weren't just embraced by part of the MTV crowd. Soon after those two programs premiered, we got stuff like American Idol, The Apprentice, The Amazing Race, Fear Factor, and Britain's Got Talent.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/07/17 at 10:42 pm

LOL. Bubblegum pop was already on its way out in 2001 and was in rapid decline by 2002..

So? What's your point? Doesn't make it any less 2000s... 2000 and 2001 are both part of the 2000s decade... Which means bubblegum pop is very much part of the 2000s decade. Along with other trends from 1999.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 05/07/17 at 10:46 pm

So? What's your point? Doesn't make it any less 2000s... 2000 and 2001 are both part of the 2000s decade... Which means bubblegum pop is very much part of the 2000s decade. Along with other trends from 1999.

Yeah, in the same way 8/12-bar blues doo-wop and rockabilly was still alive and well in the early 1960s. Bubblegum pop was huge throughout all of the late 90s and can trace its roots earlier in the decade as well, depending on where you look.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/08/17 at 6:47 am

I will say in 2007 we were at 66% 00s ness

Culturally speaking, I would say that 2007 was definitely a core 2000s year. Whilst it definitely felt different from most of the Mid 2000s, it didn't exactly feel like an "outright" Late 2000s year either.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/09/17 at 12:36 am

So? What's your point? Doesn't make it any less 2000s... 2000 and 2001 are both part of the 2000s decade... Which means bubblegum pop is very much part of the 2000s decade. Along with other trends from 1999.

That was in response to your statement claiming that bubblegum pop was more of a 00s phenomenon, which isn't true because it was already on the downswing as early as 2001 and considered a bit dated by 2002. Bubblegum pop was much more of a thing in 1997/1998 than 2001/2002, although its peak years were 1999-2000 (Y2K). So how doesn't it skew more late 90s?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/09/17 at 12:43 am

That was in response to your statement claiming that bubblegum pop was more of a 00s phenomenon, which isn't true because it was already on the downswing as early as 2001 and considered a bit dated by 2002. Bubblegum pop was much more of a thing in 1997/1998 than 2001/2002, although its peak years were 1999-2000 (Y2K). So how doesn't it skew more late 90s?

So what if it was downswing in 2001? 2000 is still part of the 2000s... And so is the Y2K era. A thing that isn't part of the middle of the decade can still be associated with the decade... I'm not sure why you think it's relevant that it wasn't popular in 2005. Being popular in 2000 is enough to be a 2000s thing, as the entire Y2K era is 2000s culture. Even more than many stuff from the mid 00s. If I were to list 2000s trends I can only list a handful from the middle of the decade but 80% of the 2000s popular trends will be from early 2000s and Y2K. This is when the real 2000s was. For example, Y2K was way more 00sey for me than the emergence of Facebook and YouTube.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Encoder319 on 05/09/17 at 12:58 am

So what if it was downswing in 2001? 2000 is still part of the 2000s... And so is the Y2K era. A thing that isn't part of the middle of the decade can still be associated with the decade... I'm not sure why you think it's relevant that it wasn't popular in 2005. Being popular in 2000 is enough to be a 2000s thing, as the entire Y2K era is 2000s culture. Even more than many stuff from the mid 00s. If I were to list 2000s trends I can only list a handful from the middle of the decade but 80% of the 2000s popular trends will be from early 2000s and Y2K. This is when the real 2000s was.

LOL @ the bolded part. Seriously? So, the first few years of the 00s were the most defining part of the decade simply because of personal preference? Are you related to The Early 90s Guy?

Getting back to what was being discussed, you said the following...

Bubblegum pop is more 2000s than '90s as well.

... To which I pointed out that bubblegum pop held more cultural relevance in the late 90s (1997 and 1998) than the early 00s (2001 and 2002). So, once again, how is it more of a 00s thing?

You think 1999/2000 is more 00s, while I think it's more 90s. Chronologically, it's split right down the middle. Culturally, the debate will always be there. The difference is that I presented some pretty basic, substantial evidence as to how those years were more tied to the late 90s; you have yet to demonstrate how they were more like 2001/2002.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/09/17 at 2:05 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/09/17 at 2:36 pm

1999: 30% (Y2K Era)

2000: 40% (Y2K Era)

2001: 50% (Y2K Era)

2002: 60% (Y2K Era)

2003: 70% (Y2K/Core Transitional Year)

2004: 80% (Core)

2005: 90% (Core)

2006: 100% (Core, Peak Noughties Year)

2007: 90% (Core)

2008: 70% (Core/Electropop Transitional Year)

2009: 60% (Electropop Era)

2010: 40% (Electropop Era)

As one poster had already mentioned, the 2000's took a gradual time to define itself (hence the heavy 90's influences that lasted in mainstream culture through the early 2000's), and once the Great Recession started to take effect in 2007/8 the decade's culture started to massively decline its influence.

Interesting. So that would mean, using your chart, that everybody born up through mid 1988 spent at least one full high school year in the Y2K era (2002-03 for '88ers, assuming the "transition" to core didn't get fully underway until the second half of the year), and that everybody born up through mid 1993 spent at least one full high school year in the core '00s (2007-08 for '93ers, assuming the "transition" to the Electropop Era didn't get fully underway until the second half of '08).

This would also mean that everybody born from 1986-1993 got at least one full high school year in the core '00s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 05/09/17 at 2:45 pm

Interesting. So that would mean, using your chart, that everybody born up through mid 1988 spent at least one full high school year in the Y2K era (2002-03 for '88ers, assuming the "transition" to core didn't get fully underway until the second half of the year), and that everybody born up through mid 1993 spent at least one full high school year in the core '00s (2007-08 for '93ers, assuming the "transition" to the Electropop Era didn't get fully underway until the second half of '08).

This would also mean that everybody born from 1986-1993 got at least one full high school year in the core '00s.

Essentially. When you think about it 2003-2004 was still an early 2000's school year and had the tail end of some Y2K influences. However, the culture at the time be it the music, movies, fashion, etc. just screamed 2000's. Like you said, everybody born from 86-93' spent at least one high school year during the core 00's, which was from 2003-2004 through 2007-2008. I also think the 2005-2006 was the ultimate 2000's school year and those born in 89' were at their youthful peak back in that school year!

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/09/17 at 4:00 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 05/09/17 at 4:32 pm

It's about time I show you fellas my chart.

2000 - 0%
2001 - 0%
Late 2001 to mid 2006 - 100% (late 2001 is the worst days when cartoons died and Hannah Montana premiered!! >:( >:( >:()
Late 2006 - 0% (the evil 2010's begin in late 2006! >:( before that all was good)
2007 - 0%
2008 - 0%
2009 - 0%

There are a few things that need to be clarified about your chart. While almost everything changed in late 2006, including my home address, it's important to recognize that during the first few months of 2006, as well as the last month of 2005, there were already certain omens that a major shift was coming. It was during that stretch of time that Ben 10 premiered on Cartoon Network, and it wad also when Nickelback's "Photograph" was eating up the charts, implying not just that All the Right Reasons would continue to produce several more hit singles, but also that people would feel overall more negatively about Nickelback within half a year, just in time for the 2006-2007 school year. Actually, songs like "Dance, Dance" and "Bat Country" are proof that rock was already starting to develop some late 2000s vibes.

By the way, does anybody think there's still a 2007 feel to today? It kinda feels pretty much the same, except that Twitter exists lol. But there was some electropop already.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mqg96 on 05/09/17 at 4:34 pm

Late 2001 to mid 2006 - 100% (late 2001 is the worst days when cartoons died and Hannah Montana premiered!! >:( >:( >:()

You just basically stretched out the beginning of an era to the end of the era when technically none of those periods were part of the same culture. Late 2001 and mid 2006 aren't part of the same era. Late 2003 is the earliest I can agree being related to the mid 2006 era.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/09/17 at 4:48 pm

By the way, does anybody think there's still a 2007 feel to today? It kinda feels pretty much the same, except that Twitter exists lol. But there was some electropop already.

2007 is the last year that feel truly different and disconnected from today for me. 2008 is the first year that feels relatively modern.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/09/17 at 4:56 pm

There are a few things that need to be clarified about your chart. While almost everything changed in late 2006, including my home address, it's important to recognize that during the first few months of 2006, as well as the last month of 2005, there were already certain omens that a major shift was coming. It was during that stretch of time that Ben 10 premiered on Cartoon Network, and it wad also when Nickelback's "Photograph" was eating up the charts, implying not just that All the Right Reasons would continue to produce several more hit singles, but also that people would feel overall more negatively about Nickelback within half a year, just in time for the 2006-2007 school year. Actually, songs like "Dance, Dance" and "Bat Country" are proof that rock was already starting to develop some late 2000s vibes.

By the way, does anybody think there's still a 2007 feel to today? It kinda feels pretty much the same, except that Twitter exists lol. But there was some electropop already.

You're absolutely right in pointing out that there was really a late 2005 shift that occurred, too. In some ways, we can say that the real 00's/the late 90's (1999/2000/late 2001-late 2006) started actually waning in late 2005 (:o :o :o :o :o) while not totally going away in late 2006 when the 2010's began as that year Cartoon Network changed their bumpers.

In 2007 a lot of hit songs had auto tune so I would say you can still feel the 2007 vibes today. What a dreamy vibe that year had.

2007 is the last year that feel truly different and disconnected from today for me. 2008 is the first year that feels relatively modern.

You just basically stretched out the beginning of an era to the end of the era when technically none of those periods were part of the same culture. Late 2001 and mid 2006 aren't part of the same era. Late 2003 is the earliest I can agree being related to the mid 2006 era.

http://p.fod4.com/upload/aff3567c9abaad4b798a350dc1e1b1a3/3niAkdzQiOTxZUUZ642W_Steve%20Harvey%20Face%2012.gif

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/09/17 at 4:59 pm

You just basically stretched out the beginning of an era to the end of the era when technically none of those periods were part of the same culture. Late 2001 and mid 2006 aren't part of the same era. Late 2003 is the earliest I can agree being related to the mid 2006 era.

2007 is the last year that feel truly different and disconnected from today for me. 2008 is the first year that feels relatively modern.

Both of y'all fell into a trap......shaking my head.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 05/09/17 at 6:36 pm

2007 is the last year that feel truly different and disconnected from today for me. 2008 is the first year that feels relatively modern.

Ah, yes. It all hinges not simply on the election of Obama and release of Lady Gaga's The Fame but also groundbreaking hit songs like Chris Brown's "Forever."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5sMKX22BHeE

Truly, that piece of work was as ahead of its time as the Beatles were in '64. "Forever" could have come out today, in 2017, and I don't think anybody would be able to tell it apart from all the EDM coming out by the Chainsmokers, Zayn, and so forth.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/10/17 at 2:27 am

Truly, that piece of work was as ahead of its time as the Beatles were in '64. "Forever" could have come out today, in 2017, and I don't think anybody would be able to tell it apart from all the EDM coming out by the Chainsmokers, Zayn, and so forth.

No, I disagree. It could easily have been released in 2010 or 2011, but definitely not 2017. The song sticks out like a sore thumb when you compare it to new releases, such as "Closer", "24K Magic" and "Pillow Talk". I agree, the song is ahead of it's time, but definitely not as much as what you are suggesting. Also, I really don't think "Forever" was ahead of its time to the same extent as The Beatles were in 1964...there's a lot of things which I could mention that would completely disprove your idea, but I won't...

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/10/17 at 5:42 am

By the way, does anybody think there's still a 2007 feel to today? It kinda feels pretty much the same, except that Twitter exists lol. But there was some electropop already.

I personally don't think so, for a variety of reasons. Generally speaking, 2007 had a relatively positive vibe to it and despite the wars which were ongoing in Iraq and Afghanistan, it didn't have the same pessimistic vibe that 2017 has had. We also didn't have Donald Trump as president and the ongoing threat of terrorism, which puts things into perspective. You could argue that our world didn't feel as interconnected as it is now, as smartphones were still in their infancy and were not the most popular form of portable device. Unlike today, there simply wasn't a need to share and hashtag everything onto social media. Technology was still viewed as being new and exciting; it was still a bit of a novelty to watch and share videos on YouTube, listen to music on iPods and MP3s, as well as going onto social media platforms such as Myspace and Facebook. In regards to technology, 2017 simply doesn't have the same vibe that 2007 had.

The popular culture played a part in the vibe 2007 had. 2007 had a very Millennial vibe to it, as it was the peak of Millennial-based culture. I may be wrong, but I would personally say that 2017 has a Gen Z vibe to it. Either way, it's definitely not the same as it was in 2007. The world was a very different place back in 2007, so I personally don't see how 2017 can have a 2007 feel to it.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/10/17 at 6:29 am

Dude, she's kidding. :P ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/10/17 at 6:33 am

Dude, she's kidding. :P ;D

That's good to know. :P

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/10/17 at 6:41 am

Dude, she's kidding. :P ;D

I know right...it's so funny seeing many people not detecting that she's kidding ;D.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/10/17 at 6:50 am

I know right...it's so funny seeing many people not detecting that she's kidding ;D.

Haha, it definitely is! ;D

That's good to know. :P

;)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 05/10/17 at 6:54 am

I know right...it's so funny seeing many people not detecting that she's kidding ;D.

It can be hard to tell at times. :P

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/10/17 at 7:15 am

It can be hard to tell at times. :P

That is true ;D.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/10/17 at 8:36 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/10/17 at 12:55 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Baltimoreian on 05/10/17 at 8:17 pm

It's about time I show you fellas my chart.

2000 = -9000000000000000000000000000000%
2001 = 0.000005%
Late 2001 to mid 2006 - Over 9000% (late 2001 is the best days when cartoons died and Hannah Montana premiered!! :D :D :D)
Late 2006 - 9000%
2007 - 9000%
2008 - 9000%
2009 - 0% (the evil 2010's begin in late 2009! >:( before that all was good) Tim Cook is responsible for all of this. He should be locked up more than Hillary. *grumbles*

I fixed your chart. Trying to show how 'Murican we were during the 2000s. 8)

You're absolutely right in pointing out that there was really a late 2005 shift that occurred, too. In some ways, we can say that the real 00's/the late 90's (1999/2000/late 2001-late 2006) started actually waning in late 2005 (:o :o :o :o :o) while not totally going away in late 2006 when the 2010's began as that year Cartoon Network changed their bumpers.

It was also when Cyma Zarghini (the evil terrorist of Nickelodeon) started to take over our beloved channel and turn into a brainwashing channel for dull kids. :P :P :P :P :P

You just basically stretched out the beginning of an era to the end of the era when technically none of those periods were part of the same culture. Late 2001 and mid 2006 aren't part of the same era. Late 2003 is the earliest I can agree being related to the mid 2006 era.

2007 is the last year that feel truly different and disconnected from today for me. 2008 is the first year that feels relatively modern.

https://media.giphy.com/media/vQqeT3AYg8S5O/giphy.gif

NOOOOOO!!! But they're right. 'Murica was the best during the 2000s, when we had Dubya bush as Prez and we had Iraq gives us our precious oil. lulz

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/10/17 at 8:21 pm

Oh, so now we're pretending that the late 1999 shift didn't happen again?

I guess I'll just have to explain this again. Everything changed in 1999 because Columbine happened and killed that carefree late '90s vibe, Spongebob Squarepants killed Nickelodeon, and Nookie by Limp Bizkit killed mainstream music. September-December 1999 are 100% 2000's! :P

Yeah, but then you forget the late 1998 shift. :o Wait, what about the late 1997 shift! :o :o Oh, and how can I forget the late 1996 shift!! :o :o :o :o

I fixed your chart. Trying to show how 'Murican we were during the 2000s. 8)

I like it! Murica, land of the free! 8)

It was also when Cyma Zarghini (the evil terrorist of Nickelodeon) started to take over our beloved channel and turn into a brainwashing channel for dull kids. :P :P :P :P :P

If anyone asks, this is the biggest tragedy of the 00's. Nothing else compares to this horror! >:(

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/10/17 at 8:23 pm

How can you guys forget about the shift of the year 2000.5? >:(

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 05/10/17 at 8:23 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 05/10/17 at 8:26 pm

How can you guys forget about the shift of the year 2000.5? >:(

Hmmm... You make a compelling argument here. It'll be hard to go against this logic.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/10/17 at 8:31 pm

Hmmm... You make a compelling argument here. It'll be hard to go against this logic.

Thought so 8).

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mach!ne_he@d on 05/11/17 at 11:58 am

I personally don't think so, for a variety of reasons. Generally speaking, 2007 had a relatively positive vibe to it and despite the wars which were ongoing in Iraq and Afghanistan, it didn't have the same pessimistic vibe that 2017 has had. We also didn't have Donald Trump as president and the ongoing threat of terrorism, which puts things into perspective. You could argue that our world didn't feel as interconnected as it is now, as smartphones were still in their infancy and were not the most popular form of portable device. Unlike today, there simply wasn't a need to share and hashtag everything onto social media. Technology was still viewed as being new and exciting; it was still a bit of a novelty to watch and share videos on YouTube, listen to music on iPods and MP3s, as well as going onto social media platforms such as Myspace and Facebook. In regards to technology, 2017 simply doesn't have the same vibe that 2007 had.

The popular culture played a part in the vibe 2007 had. 2007 had a very Millennial vibe to it, as it was the peak of Millennial-based culture. I may be wrong, but I would personally say that 2017 has a Gen Z vibe to it. Either way, it's definitely not the same as it was in 2007. The world was a very different place back in 2007, so I personally don't see how 2017 can have a 2007 feel to it.

I agree with you that 2007 has actually started to feel quite dated recently. I had just started my first MySpace account and just gotten my first MP3 player in 2006, and YouTube had only been around for about a year at that point, so much of today's technology did still feel "new" at the time. Also, perhaps this is just my perception, but social media in 2007 still seemed quite different from today. It seemed at that time that MySpace and Facebook were still mostly dominated by high school and college students, as supposed to the middle-aged soccer moms that seem to run social media these days.

Other things about 2007 that seem "dated" to me.

*I still only had a CRT television set.
*I was still using a flip-phone.
*The PlayStation 2 was still the dominant gaming console for me until I got a PS3 later that year.
*I still had not heard of Twitter or "hashtags" yet.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 05/11/17 at 12:05 pm

*I still had not heard of Twitter or "hashtags" yet.

Well of course, Twitter became really ubiquitous in 2011/2012 and hashtags didn't become popular until 2013.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Looney Toon on 05/18/17 at 11:33 am

I do find it interesting that in some of the earlier posts people would say that the "'00s feel" was already becoming dominant by 1999 at around 50%. And by 2000 a majority of pop culture/feel had a '00s vibe to them. Not saying these are wrong at all as I do agree myself. Also agree with 2005-2006 being the peak of the decade's pop cultural distinctions.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 05/18/17 at 11:35 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Looney Toon on 05/18/17 at 11:39 am

Hello stranger, I haven't seen you in a while. ;D

Yeah, life hit me. At first it was just poking me in the back. When I kept neglecting it life started to hit me with an over sized hammer.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 05/18/17 at 11:12 pm

Yeah, life hit me. At first it was just poking me in the back. When I kept neglecting it life started to hit me with an over sized hammer.

Wlcome back Looney Toon. :) I was wondering where you went.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: DesiredUsernameWasTaken on 08/20/17 at 2:40 pm

2000 = 50% 00's|50% 90's
2001 = 55% 00's|45% 90's
2002 = 60% 00's|40% 90's
2003 = 97% 00's|3% 90's
2004 = 100% 00's
2005 = 100% 00's (quintessential year)
2006 = 85% 00's|15% 10's
2007 = 75% 00's|25% 10's
2008 = 65% 00's|35% 10's
2009 = 45% 00's|55% 10's

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 1:29 am

I watched a movie with a friend last night, Jennifer's Body, that came out in 2009. It's a teen/young adult horror movie and they tend to be relevant to the current culture. I was surprised by how '00s the vibe of it was. There was very little about it that seemed '10s at all.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 1:35 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 1:36 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 1:36 am

Yeah, I think a lot of people overestimate how 10s 2009 was, especially looking back from 2017.

I agree.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 1:38 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 08/21/17 at 1:49 am

Yeah, I think a lot of people overestimate how 10s 2009 was, especially looking back from 2017.

It was only the second half of 2009 that started to feel distant from the 2000s. The first half of the year is very much 2000's, in my opinion.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 9:31 am

I have never felt the "great amount" of 2010s-ness that many people claim that 2009 had. Both back in '09 and today.

A lot of people also lump 2008 in with the '10s. Back in the early '10s I could understand that but looking back from 2017, 2008 and '09 were far more '00s than they were '10s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 11:02 am

A lot of people also lump 2008 in with the '10s. Back in the early '10s I could understand that but looking back from 2017, 2008 and '09 were far more '00s than they were '10s.

Yeah, I agree.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 08/21/17 at 11:11 am

A lot of people also lump 2008 in with the '10s. Back in the early '10s I could understand that but looking back from 2017, 2008 and '09 were far more '00s than they were '10s.

by 2008 it was already feeling heavily 2010s

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 11:19 am

by 2008 it was already feeling heavily 2010s

Not to me. I will never get this sentiment.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 08/21/17 at 11:25 am

Not to me. I will never get this sentiment.
/

Around like late summer 2008, the hints started coming in,
Gaga blowing up, The economy bursting in September, All the stores closing, TRL ending,
Obama winning, 2008 is also when smart phones started blowing up.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 11:27 am

Not sure why 2003 is 97% 00's, yet 2006 is only 85% 00's and then 15% 10's :o!

I would say 2006 is even less than that... And 2003 is close to 100% '00s... That's the way it is. The true 2000s are the early 2000s, not the late 2000s. 2006 is not super '00sey. And I would probably put 2009 at 0% as it is a 2010s year in my eyes.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 11:29 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 11:31 am

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Around like late summer 2008, the hints started coming in,
Gaga blowing up, The economy bursting in September, All the stores closing, TRL ending,
Obama winning, 2008 is also when smart phones started blowing up.

I still don't believe 2008 was "very '10s" as you guys think and smartphones didn't blow up until 2011/2012.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 11:36 am

I still don't believe 2008 was "very '10s" as you guys think and smartphones didn't blow up until 2011/2012.

This completely. Smartphones didn't become the standard until 2011/12 after Android phones emerged. The iPhone was a novelty in the late '00s.

From the perspective of 2017, I just can't see how 2008 or even 2009 are a part of today's culture. Things are very, very different and to me, not in a good way.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 08/21/17 at 11:37 am

I still don't believe 2008 was "very '10s" as you guys think and smartphones didn't blow up until 2011/2012.

Blackberrys started popping up in late 2006, I saw them in class

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 11:38 am

This completely. Smartphones didn't become the standard until 2011/12 after Android phones emerged. The iPhone was a novelty in the late '00s.

From the perspective of 2017, I just can't see how 2008 or even 2009 are a part of today's culture. Things are very, very different and to me, not in a good way.

I absolutely agree.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 11:39 am

Blackberrys started popping up in late 2006, I saw them in class

Blackberries are a late '00s thing. They weren't relevant much at all in the '10s with the exception of for business and that was only in the early '10s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 11:40 am

Blackberrys started popping up in late 2006, I saw them in class

BlackBerrys aren't smartphones.

Blackberries are a late '00s thing. They weren't relevant much at all in the '10s with the exception of for business and that was only in the early '10s.

Yep.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 11:40 am

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 11:42 am

BlackBerrys aren't smartphones.

Technically they are smartphones. I put blackberries with the 2010s. Anything from the late 2000s is pretty 2010s to me.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 11:48 am

Smartphones aren't the only thing that makes things 2010s. In fact I don't think that is a good thing to use to describe this decade as they may still be popular in 2020s. The music, fashion, politics, some technology, and general culture and atmosphere of the 2010s all started back in late 2008.

You would be shocked if you were transported back to 2008 in terms of how different it actually is compared to 2017. Sorry, but that culture died sometime in 2013. The early '10s were more of an extension of the late '00s than a true preview of the '10s.

I look at it like the early '90s compared to the '80s. The early '90s, when George HW Bush was President, were by all means an extension of the 1980s. They were more evolved and there were differences, but they were closer to the '80s than the true '90s. Why was this? The '90s saw a shift from GenX culture to Millennial culture. This really started to occur around the middle of the decade. The '10s are very similar in that we are experiencing a shift from Millennial culture to Generation Z culture. Millennial '00s culture started to fade around 2013 much like GenX '80s culture started to fade around 1993.

And in terms of politics, SJW vs alt-right, backlash against Obama, increasing racial tensions, same-sex marriage and the backlash against it, and Donald Trump are the defining issues of the '10s. Most of that began in late 2012.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/21/17 at 12:16 pm

You would be shocked if you were transported back to 2008 in terms of how different it actually is compared to 2017. Sorry, but that culture died sometime in 2013. The early '10s were more of an extension of the late '00s than a true preview of the '10s.

I look at it like the early '90s compared to the '80s. The early '90s, when George HW Bush was President, were, by all means, an extension of the 1980s. They were more evolved and there were differences, but they were closer to the '80s than the true '90s. Why was this? The '90s saw a shift from GenX culture to Millennial culture. This really started to occur around the middle of the decade. The '10s are very similar in that we are experiencing a shift from Millennial culture to Generation Z culture. Millennial '00s culture started to fade around 2013 much like GenX '80s culture started to fade around 1993.

And in terms of politics, SJW vs alt-right, the backlash against Obama, increasing racial tensions, same-sex marriage and the backlash against it, and Donald Trump are the defining issues of the '10s. Most of that began in late 2012.
I actually agree with everything you said. Like another user said, most people have overestimated the late 00s. If you wanna know, I looked at shows with 2008-09 episodes, and the fashion was very similar to the rest of the decade. Technology at the time was still pre-smartphone, pre-tablet, and the majority still had cell phones. For politics, despite Obama being well known and was president in 2009, the era was still largely Bush Jr considering he had just barely left the WH as Obama took over, and the economic recession was still in place. When it comes to music, some folks have forgotten that it wasn't all electropop of Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Kesha. For one, there was plenty of non-snap hip-hop, R&B, Rock, Pop-Rock, and even country to an extent. As for the general vibe, it was different compared to today. For one, most people were not getting offended over everything. Obama was still seen as the "hope and change" president/candidate. Social media began to rise with the general population considering that prior to that only nerds, HS and college students were on it. There were no increased racial tensions, and there were less terrorist attacks.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 08/21/17 at 12:20 pm

A lot of people also lump 2008 in with the '10s.

Just on this site? Or outside of it too?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 12:22 pm

Just on this site? Or outside of it too?

I don't think people care about the stuff we care about outside this site. The 2010s are 2010 - 2019 to normies. But yeah I guess if they do care, they would be right to lump late 2008 with the '10s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 12:25 pm

You would be shocked if you were transported back to 2008 in terms of how different it actually is compared to 2017. Sorry, but that culture died sometime in 2013. The early '10s were more of an extension of the late '00s than a true preview of the '10s.

I look at it like the early '90s compared to the '80s. The early '90s, when George HW Bush was President, were by all means an extension of the 1980s. They were more evolved and there were differences, but they were closer to the '80s than the true '90s. Why was this? The '90s saw a shift from GenX culture to Millennial culture. This really started to occur around the middle of the decade. The '10s are very similar in that we are experiencing a shift from Millennial culture to Generation Z culture. Millennial '00s culture started to fade around 2013 much like GenX '80s culture started to fade around 1993.

And in terms of politics, SJW vs alt-right, backlash against Obama, increasing racial tensions, same-sex marriage and the backlash against it, and Donald Trump are the defining issues of the '10s. Most of that began in late 2012.

I actually agree with everything you said. Like another user said, most people have overestimated the late 00s. If you wanna know, I looked at shows with 2008-09 episodes, and the fashion was very similar to the rest of the decade. Technology at the time was still pre-smartphone, pre-tablet, and the majority still had cell phones. For politics, despite Obama being well known and was president in 2009, the era was still largely Bush Jr considering he had just barely left the WH as Obama took over, and the economic recession was still in place. When it comes to music, some folks have forgotten that it wasn't all electropop of Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Kesha. For one, there was plenty of non-snap hip-hop, R&B, Rock, Pop-Rock, and even country to an extent. As for the general vibe, it was different compared to today. For one, most people were not getting offended over everything. Obama was still seen as the "hope and change" president/candidate. Social media began to rise with the general population considering that prior to that only nerds, HS and college students were on it. There were no increased racial tensions, and there were less terrorist attacks.

I agree with the both of you.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 08/21/17 at 12:27 pm

I would say 2006 is even less than that... And 2003 is close to 100% '00s... That's the way it is. The true 2000s are the early 2000s, not the late 2000s. 2006 is not super '00sey.

I disagree. To me the true 00s were the mid 00s, and late 00s to an extent. The early 00s seemed like a rough prototype for the rest of the decade, that hadn't fully shaken off the late 90s influence, similar to the early 2010s and early 90s. I say this because the culture and feel of the early 2000s was rather quickly dropped after 2003, whereas the mid 00s and late 00s share a number of things in common and felt more like they were "building" naturally on one another, unlike the early 00s which were chucked into the trash by the time we hit 2004.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 12:35 pm

I disagree. To me the true 00s were the mid 00s, and late 00s to an extent. The early 00s seemed like a rough prototype for the rest of the decade, that hadn't fully shaken off the late 90s influence, similar to the early 2010s and early 90s. I say this because the culture and feel of the early 2000s was rather quickly dropped after 2003, whereas the mid 00s and late 00s share a number of things in common and felt more like they were "building" naturally on one another, unlike the early 00s which were chucked into the trash by the time we hit 2004.

I agree.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 1:15 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 1:23 pm

A lot of people think the early are the extension of the '90s, but they are their own thing and part of 2000s culture. When I think of the 2000s, I think of 2000 - 2005, not 2006 - 2009.

Wow. That doesn't seem right to me considering that 2006 was basically when 2000s culture was at its peak. ???

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 1:37 pm

I actually agree with everything you said. Like another user said, most people have overestimated the late 00s. If you wanna know, I looked at shows with 2008-09 episodes, and the fashion was very similar to the rest of the decade. Technology at the time was still pre-smartphone, pre-tablet, and the majority still had cell phones. For politics, despite Obama being well known and was president in 2009, the era was still largely Bush Jr considering he had just barely left the WH as Obama took over, and the economic recession was still in place. When it comes to music, some folks have forgotten that it wasn't all electropop of Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Kesha. For one, there was plenty of non-snap hip-hop, R&B, Rock, Pop-Rock, and even country to an extent. As for the general vibe, it was different compared to today. For one, most people were not getting offended over everything. Obama was still seen as the "hope and change" president/candidate. Social media began to rise with the general population considering that prior to that only nerds, HS and college students were on it. There were no increased racial tensions, and there were less terrorist attacks.

I agree with this completely. You are right on music as well. Emo, scene, and post-grunge were still relevant for crying out loud. Here are the top 10 year-end songs of 2009.

1 Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow
2 Lady Gaga - Poker Face
3 Lady Gaga feat. Colby O'Donis - Just Dance
4 Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling
5 Taylor Swift - Love Story
6 Flo Rida - Right Round
7 Jason Mraz - I'm Yours
8 Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
9 Kanye West - Heartless
10 All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell

In my opinion none of those would sound current in 2017.

The hot political issues of 2008 and 2009 were the Iraq War, Bush fatigue, the Great Recession, etc and Obama was still perceived favorably by most people.

The era definitely had more in common with the '00s than 2017.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 1:41 pm

Wow. That doesn't seem right to me considering that 2006 was basically when 2000s culture was at its peak. ???

Yes, 2006 was the peak of '00s culture. MySpace, emo/scene, flipphones, and ringtone rap defined that year.

I think those who lump everything from 2006 onward together are people who have a special affinity for the early 2000s and might not have followed pop culture as closely since.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 1:42 pm

Wow. That doesn't seem right to me considering that 2006 was basically when 2000s culture was at its peak. ???

2006 was NOT the peak. 2004 - 2005 was. 2006 was not 2010s yet, but definitely not '00s either. So many things changed in 2006.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 2:07 pm

I agree with this completely. You are right on music as well. Emo, scene, and post-grunge were still relevant for crying out loud. Here are the top 10 year-end songs of 2009.

1 Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow
2 Lady Gaga - Poker Face
3 Lady Gaga feat. Colby O'Donis - Just Dance
4 Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling
5 Taylor Swift - Love Story
6 Flo Rida - Right Round
7 Jason Mraz - I'm Yours
8 Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
9 Kanye West - Heartless
10 All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell

In my opinion none of those would sound current in 2017.

The hot political issues of 2008 and 2009 were the Iraq War, Bush fatigue, the Great Recession, etc and Obama was still perceived favorably by most people.

The era definitely had more in common with the '00s than 2017.

I totally agree.

The only thing though is that Obama has a pretty good favorability currently (around 60-62%).

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 2:09 pm

2006 was NOT the peak. 2004 - 2005 was. 2006 was not 2010s yet, but definitely not '00s either. So many things changed in 2006.

2006 was very much '00s. I can't believe that some people believe 2006 wasn't very '00s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 2:11 pm

2006 was very much '00s. I can't believe that some people believe 2006 wasn't very '00s.

Because it wasn't... So many changes happened that year. Just read the threads on here about the 2006 shift or whatever they are called.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 2:32 pm

Because it wasn't... So many changes happened that year. Just read the threads on here about the 2006 shift or whatever they are called.

2006 was very much '00s to me.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 2:40 pm

2006 was very much '00s to me.

That's fine. This is all opinion based anyway. Everyone's experience and location varies.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 08/21/17 at 2:50 pm

Technically they are smartphones. I put blackberries with the 2010s. Anything from the late 2000s is pretty 2010s to me.

There's no way Blackberry phones are 2010s. The only time this decade they were still fairly common was the first two years, and even then, they were very much on their way out. Actually, the modern Blackberry phone initially came to be way back in 2003. It went through a few refinements later in the 2000s and peaked primarily in the late 2000s, but it's still pretty unambiguously a 2000s product line.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 3:33 pm

There's no way Blackberry phones are 2010s. The only time this decade they were still fairly common was the first two years, and even then, they were very much on their way out. Actually, the modern Blackberry phone initially came to be way back in 2003. It went through a few refinements later in the 2000s and peaked primarily in the late 2000s, but it's still pretty unambiguously a 2000s product line.

2000s had flip phones, 2010s had smartphones so I put Blackberries on the 2010s side.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 4:22 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 08/21/17 at 5:25 pm

2000s had flip phones, 2010s had smartphones so I put Blackberries on the 2010s side.

By that logic, you may as well call the Tiger Electronics game.com from 1997 a 2010s gadget, considering its multifunctional design that practically rivals a smartphone. Or better yet, Pong is an 80s video game simply because video games as a whole were a lot more popular in the 1980s than the 1970s. You can't simplify something that clearly peaked in the 2000s with the 2010s just because it was a stepping stone towards the classic 2010s touch-phone. Blackberry phones with primitive features and keypads were passé before the 2010s even truly finished defining themselves.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/21/17 at 6:01 pm

I agree with everyone else that the mid-00s are definitely the peak for the decade. No question about that.

I agree with this completely. You are right on music as well. Emo, scene, and post-grunge were still relevant for crying out loud. Here are the top 10 year-end songs of 2009.

1 Black Eyed Peas - Boom Boom Pow
2 Lady Gaga - Poker Face
3 Lady Gaga feat. Colby O'Donis - Just Dance
4 Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling
5 Taylor Swift - Love Story
6 Flo Rida - Right Round
7 Jason Mraz - I'm Yours
8 Beyonce - Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)
9 Kanye West - Heartless
10 All-American Rejects - Gives You Hell

In my opinion, none of those would sound current in 2017.

The hot political issues of 2008 and 2009 were the Iraq War, Bush fatigue, the Great Recession, etc and Obama was still perceived favorably by most people.

The era definitely had more in common with the '00s than 2017.
Agreed! I have actually listened to most of those songs recently, and they all sounded outdated from today's perspective. All those tracks absolutely scream the late 00s no matter what others say.

Very true.

I agree very much. Hopefully, some people acknowledge that the late 00s weren't as early 10s as they thought it to be.

There's no way Blackberry phones are 2010s. The only time this decade they were still fairly common was the first two years, and even then, they were very much on their way out. Actually, the modern Blackberry phone initially came to be way back in 2003. It went through a few refinements later in the 2000s and peaked primarily in the late 2000s, but it's still pretty unambiguously a 2000s product line.

By that logic, you may as well call the Tiger Electronics game.com from 1997 a 2010s gadget, considering its multifunctional design that practically rivals a smartphone. Or better yet, Pong is an 80s video game simply because video games as a whole were a lot more popular in the 1980s than the 1970s. You can't simplify something that clearly peaked in the 2000s with the 2010s just because it was a stepping-stone towards the classic 2010s touch-phone. Blackberry phones with primitive features and keypads were passé before the 2010s even truly finished defining themselves.
I agree! Blackberries were definitely more 00s than ever. Those phones pretty much became outdated by the time smartphones were popular.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 7:00 pm

By that logic, you may as well call the Tiger Electronics game.com from 1997 a 2010s gadget, considering its multifunctional design that practically rivals a smartphone. Or better yet, Pong is an 80s video game simply because video games as a whole were a lot more popular in the 1980s than the 1970s. You can't simplify something that clearly peaked in the 2000s with the 2010s just because it was a stepping stone towards the classic 2010s touch-phone. Blackberry phones with primitive features and keypads were passé before the 2010s even truly finished defining themselves.

Difference is smartphones of the '90s were no mainstream and popular. Blackberries in the late 2000s were. So that's not the best comparison. I still believe Blackberries lean more towards the 2010s and I won't change my mind on that.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 7:02 pm

I agree with everyone else that the mid-00s are definitely the peak for the decade. No question about that.

I agree with that too. But 2006 is not mid '00s... 2004 or 2005 is the peak of the 2000s, not 2006. The early 2000s have still a very strong 2000s identity. 2006 really started the decline of 2000s culture, it was still there but it was past its peak.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 8:05 pm

I agree with that too. But 2006 is not mid '00s... 2004 or 2005 is the peak of the 2000s, not 2006. The early 2000s have still a very strong 2000s identity. 2006 really started the decline of 2000s culture, it was still there but it was past its peak.

I really think that you have a special affection for the early '00s and everything after that kind of runs together for you. The early '00s were the quintessential '00s for you and everything later in the decade is more comparable to 2017 than the early '00s. It happens. I wonder if that will be me in the '20s since I really haven't liked '10s culture since about 2013.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 08/21/17 at 8:07 pm

Difference is smartphones of the '90s were no mainstream and popular. Blackberries in the late 2000s were. So that's not the best comparison. I still believe Blackberries lean more towards the 2010s and I won't change my mind on that.

If it peaked in the 2000s, it's a 2000s trend. I don't care how much you want to artificially stretch the starting point of the greater 2010s era to 2008, the Blackberry phone's success was still primarily confined to the 2000s decade, not the 2010s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 8:10 pm

If it peaked in the 2000s, it's a 2000s trend. I don't care how much you want to artificially stretch the starting point of the greater 2010s era to 2008, the Blackberry phone's success was still primarily confined to the 2000s decade, not the 2010s.

No it isn't 2000s because it is a smartphone. Nothing artificial about it. Blackberries were still smartphones, and we can all agree smartphones blew up in the 2010s, not 2000s. So it is still predominately 2010s and belongs more with 2010s culture.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 8:23 pm

I really think that you have a special affection for the early '00s and everything after that kind of runs together for you. The early '00s were the quintessential '00s for you and everything later in the decade is more comparable to 2017 than the early '00s. It happens. I wonder if that will be me in the '20s since I really haven't liked '10s culture since about 2013.

Yeah the early 2000s were by far the best time of that decade, and just an awesome era in general. The culture was great and unique. I can't really associate things like High School Musical, Hannah Montanna, smartphones (or non flip phones in general) with classic 2000s culture. The first half of the decade was vastly superior. The early and mid 2000s had a blend of older technology and more modern technology, it was an in-between of the old and the new which is the best way to describe the 2000s to me. It wasn't the '90s anymore in the early 2000s and it was just an overall great time. The early 2000s define the 2000s so much more than the late 2000s do and the first half of the decade in general has "'00s culture" more than the second half.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 8:34 pm

Yeah the early 2000s were by far the best time of that decade, and just an awesome era in general. The culture was great and unique. I can't really associate things like High School Musical, Hannah Montanna, smartphones (or non flip phones in general) with classic 2000s culture. The first half of the decade was vastly superior. The early and mid 2000s had a blend of older technology and more modern technology, it was an in-between of the old and the new which is the best way to describe the 2000s to me. It wasn't the '90s anymore in the early 2000s and it was just an overall great time. The early 2000s define the 2000s so much more than the late 2000s do and the first half of the decade in general has "'00s culture" more than the second half.

I'm starting to wonder whether you know what the 2000s culture really was? ???

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 8:35 pm

I'm starting to wonder whether you know what the 2000s culture really was? ???

Yes I do because I was probably more of an '00s kid than you because I was born in 1995. The true 2000s culture is definitely stuff before 2006, not the things I listed... It is shows like Lizzie Mcguire, Even Stevens, That's So Raven that make up '00s culture. And I could say the same to you... I'm starting to wonder if you know what 2000s culture is because you have the opinion that it is after 2005. ??? But I won't because I know these are OPINIONS and we all have different experiences, live in different places, and value different things from each decade. 2006 had a shift that put us away from classic '00s culture. True 2000s culture was not stuff after 2005. And I will not change my mind on that.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 8:48 pm

Yes I do because I was probably more of an '00s kid than you because I was born in 1995. The true 2000s culture is definitely stuff before 2006, not the things I listed... It is shows like Lizzie Mcguire, Even Stevens, That's So Raven that make up '00s culture. And I could say the same to you... I'm starting to wonder if you know what 2000s culture is because you have the opinion that it is after 2005. ??? But I won't because I know these are OPINIONS and we all have different experiences, live in different places, and value different things from each decade. 2006 had a shift that put us away from classic '00s culture. True 2000s culture was not stuff after 2005. And I will not change my mind on that.

Really? ??? Because in know a lot of people older than you born in like 1992-1994, who remmeber and watched shows like Hannah Montana, HighSchool Musical etc, and remember them as being 2000s things, yet you can apparently not identify with any of that? ???
Also if you don't consider those things part of 2000s culture, then what do you think it is, 2010s!?! ??? :)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 8:56 pm

Really? ??? Because in know a lot of people older than you born in like 1992-1994, who remmeber and watched shows like Hannah Montana, HighSchool Musical etc, and remember them as being 2000s things, yet you can apparently not identify with any of that? ???
Also if you don't consider those things part of 2000s culture, then what do you think it is, 2010s!?! ??? :)

No I absolutely do not identify High School Musical and Hannah Montanna with classic 2000s culture because it isn't. Early 2000s stuff are more '00sey than that garbage.

What do I consider 2010s? Early 2010s stuff like Lady Gaga, bright coloured clothing, Justin Bieber, Katy Perry, Obama, electropop, etc. If you google image "2010s decade" you will find images of early 2010s stuff and trends, so that proves it's NOT just me.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 9:02 pm

No I absolutely do not identify High School Musical and Hannah Montanna with classic 2000s culture because it isn't. Early 2000s stuff are more '00sey than that garbage.

What do I consider 2010s? Early 2010s stuff like Lady Gaga, bright coloured clothing, Justin Bieber, Katy Perry, Obama, electropop, etc. If you google image "2010s decade" you will find images of early 2010s stuff and trends, so that proves it's NOT just me.

You clearly misread my question :P. I mean, if you don't think things like Hannah Montana or High School Musical are 2000s culutre, then what do you consider them as?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 9:06 pm

You clearly misread my question :P. I mean, if you don't think things like Hannah Montana or High School Musical are 2000s culutre, then what do you consider them as?

They are not true 2000s culture or peak 2000s culture. 2000s culture was declining when these things got released, so they do not describe the '00s, simple as that.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 9:13 pm

'00s culture was at it's strongest from 2004-2007....PERIOD!.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 9:15 pm

'00s culture was at it's strongest from 2004-2007....PERIOD!.

No it wasn't. It was at it's strongest point 2000 - 2005, period.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 9:16 pm

'00s culture was at it's strongest from 2004-2007....PERIOD!.

Was just about to say that..... Completely agree! :P
Those were the only years in the 00's that the culture was almost 100% specific to the decade

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 08/21/17 at 9:16 pm

They are not true 2000s culture or peak 2000s culture. 2000s culture was declining when these things got released, so they do not describe the '00s, simple as that.

Hannah Montana and High School Musical were very popular in 2006-2007. They may not be apart of peak 2000s culture, but they are still heavily connected with 2000s culture. The reason why you may not think so, is because you were at the end of your childhood. Obviously you're not going to identify with it.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/21/17 at 9:17 pm

No it wasn't. It was at it's strongest point 2000 - 2005, period.

Haha really?? Becasue 2000s culutre was more prominent in 2000 than 2006, LOL. ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 9:23 pm

Was just about to say that..... Completely agree! :P
Those were the only years in the 00's that the culture was almost 100% specific to the decade

Yep 8).

Hannah Montana and High School Musical were very popular in 2006-2007. They may not be apart of peak 2000s culture, but they are still heavily connected with 2000s culture. The reason why you may not think so, is because you were at the end of your childhood. Obviously you're not going to identify with it.

Totally agree.

Haha really?? Becasue 2000s culutre was more prominent in 2000 than 2006, LOL. ;D

I know right! ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 9:24 pm

Hannah Montana and High School Musical were very popular in 2006-2007. They may not be apart of peak 2000s culture, but they are still heavily connected with 2000s culture. The reason why you may not think so, is because you were at the end of your childhood. Obviously you're not going to identify with it.

Yes I know, it wasn't peak 2000s culture and I don't identify with it. Those stuff sucked too, the 2000s should not be remembered by it.

Haha really?? Becasue 2000s culutre was more prominent in 2000 than 2006, LOL. ;D

Yes it sort of was actually. Y2K describes the 2000s a lot.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/21/17 at 10:20 pm

I find it interesting that Slim95 feels the way about the '00s that he does having been born in 1995. I would expect that perspective from someone born in say 1975. A '75er could very likely be aged out of pop culture by the late '00s and find them irrelevant yet been young enough to be immersed in the early '00s. Being born in '85 myself, an equivalent would be me trying to claim that the George H.W. Bush years were the true '90s and anything after 1995 or so was a prelude to the '00s. It would be like saying the '90s were all about the Gulf War, the fall of the Soviet Union, neon fashion, New Jack Swing, big hair, cassette boomboxes, and Saved by the Bell.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: #Infinity on 08/21/17 at 10:22 pm

No it isn't 2000s because it is a smartphone. Nothing artificial about it. Blackberries were still smartphones, and we can all agree smartphones blew up in the 2010s, not 2000s. So it is still predominately 2010s and belongs more with 2010s culture.

Fine then, you leave me no choice. As I did with The Early 90s Guy, whom you're starting to resemble, here's a list of defining trends per decade...

80s Culture:

http://www.bespoke-arcades.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Pong-upright.jpg
(Arcade games)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/Blondie_album_cover.jpg
(New wave)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51bdi35w1JL._SY355_.jpg
(Electronic music)

http://www.cinemasterpieces.com/cinest5.jpg
(Sci-fi-oriented summer blockbuster movies)

90s Culture:

http://www.bestoldgames.net/img/ss/super-mario-bros/super-mario-bros-ss1.png
(Nintendo)

http://4827-presscdn.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/apple-macintosh-1984-history.jpg
(Apple computers)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0d/Run-D.M.C..jpg
(Hip hop)

2000s Culture:

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(CGI-animated movies)

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(The Internet)

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(Nickelback)

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(Seth MacFarlane cartoons)

The Blackberry phone is but a precursor to the 2010s-style smartphone. It has big fat key buttons and does not rely on the same sophisticated touchscreen technology or expansive selection of apps like the iPhone does. Whether or not you qualify it as a "smartphone," it's still too primitive to accurately represent the 2010s decade as a whole. Even if a franchise or technology peaks during one decade, it's very common for it to have primordial stages during the previous decade, and that's exactly what the Blackberry is to the iPhone.

Yes I do because I was probably more of an '00s kid than you because I was born in 1995. The true 2000s culture is definitely stuff before 2006, not the things I listed... It is shows like Lizzie Mcguire, Even Stevens, That's So Raven that make up '00s culture. And I could say the same to you... I'm starting to wonder if you know what 2000s culture is because you have the opinion that it is after 2005. ??? But I won't because I know these are OPINIONS and we all have different experiences, live in different places, and value different things from each decade. 2006 had a shift that put us away from classic '00s culture. True 2000s culture was not stuff after 2005. And I will not change my mind on that.

This explains a lot. It very much seems like your perspective of the 2000s is heavily biased by the fact that you're focusing on your childhood. No wonder you adamantly consider 2008 the beginning of the 2010s, as that was when you turned 13 and basically entered your adolescence.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 10:24 pm

I was born in 1999 and I don't think that the early '00s was more representative of the 2000s than the mid '00s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/21/17 at 10:30 pm

I agree with that too. But 2006 is the not mid '00s... 2004 or 2005 is the peak of the 2000s, not 2006. The early 2000s have still a very strong 2000s identity. 2006 really started the decline of 2000s culture, it was still there but it was past its peak.
Well all 3 years are the mid-00s regardless, and that is a fact. As for the early 00s, I agree on they have a strong identity but it's not the only in the decade that had a huge connection

Oh, and no offense to you but you're really sounding like Jordan, Slowpoke, and Early90sGuy, all of a sudden. They all did the same thing some time ago and would say that everything after the early portion of their respective decade was terrible.

I find it interesting that Slim95 feels the way about the '00s that he does having been born in 1995. I would expect that perspective from someone born in say 1975. A '75er could very likely be aged out of pop culture by the late '00s and find them irrelevant yet been young enough to be immersed in the early '00s. Being born in '85 myself, an equivalent would be me trying to claim that the George H.W. Bush years were the true '90s and anything after 1995 or so was a prelude to the '00s. It would be like saying the '90s were all about the Gulf War, the fall of the Soviet Union, neon fashion, New Jack Swing, big hair, cassette boomboxes, and Saved by the Bell.
Yeah, same here. He's truly sounding like some other users who have done this before, and refuse to realize that the early portion of a decade is not the main focus.

I was born in 1999 and I don't think that the early '00s were more representative of the 2000s than the mid-'00s.
I agree so much!

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: HazelBlue99 on 08/21/17 at 10:37 pm

I was born in 1999 and I don't think that the early '00s was more representative of the 2000s than the mid '00s.

The general consensus is that core 2000's culture occurred from 2003-2008, give or take a year. Naturally, those years would be the most representative of the 2000s. You'd think that would be common sense. ::)

Yes I know, it wasn't peak 2000s culture and I don't identify with it. Those stuff sucked too, the 2000s should not be remembered by it.

I have never liked Hannah Montana or High School Musical either, but even with that said, I think you'll find that a lot of people (particularly those who were in their core childhoods during the middle/end of the decade) will remember them as being popular elements of 2000s culture.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 08/21/17 at 10:41 pm

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 10:45 pm

The general consensus is that core 2000's culture occurred from 2003-2008, give or take a year. Naturally, those years would be the most representative of the 2000s. You'd think that would be common sense. ::)
You got it!

I have never liked Hannah Montana or High School Musical either, but even with that said, I think you'll find that a lot of people (particularly those who were in their core childhoods during the middle/end of the decade) will remember them as being popular elements of 2000s culture.

I actually liked (and still do) Hannah Montana and High School Musical :-[. However, I agree with you.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 10:46 pm

You know people my age who watched Hannah Montana? :o That's not fair... I got beat up for much less. ;D

I had to keep my liking of Hannah Montana in secret :-[.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 10:57 pm

I had to keep my liking of Hannah Montana in secret :-
Well all 3 years are the mid-00s regardless, and that is a fact. As for the early 00s, I agree on they have a strong identity but it's not the only in the decade that had a huge connection

But that isn't fact because 2006 is the start of the late '00s numerically... In September 2006 the late '00s have begun. So it isn't a fact that 2006 is tied to 2005, maybe the beginning of the year at most. But how is it a fact? ??? 2006 can be part of the late '00s and not the mid '00s. Same goes for every other decade and that is using simple factual math.

I was born in 1999 and I don't think that the early '00s was more representative of the 2000s than the mid '00s.

I'm not even too much concerned with 2003 - 2005, but 2006 was technically the start of the late '00s numerically speaking. Either way I think the early '00s still defined the '00s a lot, but like you I agree the mid '00s was the peak. 2004 and 2005 are both years I am fine with being quintessential 2000s years, it's just that I am not fine with 2006 being it. :P

The general consensus is that core 2000's culture occurred from 2003-2008, give or take a year. Naturally, those years would be the most representative of the 2000s. You'd think that would be common sense. ::)

It is not a general consensus or common sense because everyone's situation is different! Everyone lives in different places, likes different things, has different experiences, etc. The only common sense and consensus there can be is that the 2000s were 2000 - 2009, because that is fact. Not everyone has to agree 2003 - 2008 represented 2000s culture the most, because I don't. Oh and actually I saw many people on this forum and other places include 2001 and 2002 as the core '00s and say 9/11 started the core '00s, more people include it than leave it out and say 2001 - 2008 was the core '00s.

To everyone else, let's not forget that cultural definitions of decades are opinion-based. The only thing that is fact is that the 2000s are 2000 - 2009 because that is the numeric decade. Everyone's experiences are pretty different when it comes to what they feel represented the decade the most in culture, and yeah admittedly I am probably biased but everyone has some sort of bias. I feel the early 2000s represented the '00s the most because through my experience, I look back at those things when the 2000s decade is mentioned and they were the best aspects of the decade. Let's just agree that these are opinions and I respect your opinion and experiences, but those were my views.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/21/17 at 11:10 pm

But that isn't fact because 2006 is the start of the late '00s numerically... In September 2006 the late '00s have begun. So it isn't a fact that 2006 is tied to 2005, maybe the beginning of the year at most. But how is it a fact? ??? 2006 can be part of the late '00s and not the mid-'00s. Same goes for every other decade and that is using simple factual math.
2006 is the start of the late '00s numerically if one is using the early/core/late designations. OTT, that year was tied to 2004 and 2005 as well as the other years after.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 11:13 pm

2006 is the start of the late '00s numerically if one is using the early/core/late designations. OTT, that year was tied to 2004 and 2005 as well as the other years after.

Well there really aren't any other designations except for the halves system. It still isn't a fact that 2006 is included. If you use the halves method, 2005 and 2006 would be considered late '00s. Most of us here use the thirds system, early, mid, and late. Either way 2006 had quite a shift in my experience, not as big as 2008, but big enough to feel pretty different from 2004/2005. I feel like the 2010s are kind of mimicking the 2000s in this aspect.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/21/17 at 11:56 pm

I wouldn't care to keep it a secret because I was pretty open to everyone as a child. But I just thought those shows and movies sucked. 8-P

Well, It's not just that they didn't like shows like HM...it's the fact that they would think that I'm "a homo" or a "fagg*t".

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/21/17 at 11:58 pm

Well, It's not just that they didn't like shows like HM...it's the fact that they would think that I'm "a homo" or a "fagg*t".

That's mean. :( People should like what they want and no one should insult you for it, especially if they use gay as an insult which is very dumb and awful.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/22/17 at 12:05 am

That's mean. :( People should like what they want and no one should insult you for it, especially if they use gay as an insult which is very dumb and awful.

I know. I was also a fan of the Jonas Brothers and they would have crucified me if they knew that :(.

I didn't like the Jonas Brothers because I thought they were hot (I'm straight not gay) like many their girl fans but I liked them because I found their to music to be decent to good.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/22/17 at 12:13 am

I know. I was also a fan of the Jonas Brothers and they would have crucified me if they knew that :(.

I didn't like the Jonas Brothers because I thought they were hot (I'm straight not gay) like many their girl fans but I liked them because I found their to music to be decent to good.

Yeah and that's okay. I liked a lot of things people think are girly when I was a kid too. It's not good that kids are that mean but I got lucky in my school and didn't get teased or had a hard time with it luckily. I was pretty open as well and it went alright.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/22/17 at 12:25 am

Well, It's not just that they didn't like shows like HM...it's the fact that they would think that I'm "a homo" or a "fagg*t".

Well I liked Hannah Montana, it was a part of my childhood. To be honest I couldn't care less what other people say, although I never go told that I was gay or homo for watching the show, that just seems silly. Also, a lot of my friends watched Hannah Montana too when they were kids. :)
I grew up with two older sisters so I had to kinda be accustomed to the TV shows/movies that they watched when we were younger, but oh well. :P

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/22/17 at 12:32 am

But that isn't fact because 2006 is the start of the late '00s numerically... In September 2006 the late '00s have begun. So it isn't a fact that 2006 is tied to 2005, maybe the beginning of the year at most. But how is it a fact? ??? 2006 can be part of the late '00s and not the mid '00s. Same goes for every other decade and that is using simple factual math.

?!?but 2006 IS part of the mid 00's. Numerically, January-August were mid and Sept-Dec were late so therefore majority of the year was mid 00's. :)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/22/17 at 12:32 am

Well I liked Hannah Montana, it was a part of my childhood. To be honest I couldn't care less what other people say, although I never go told that I was gay or homo for watching the show, that just seems silly. Also, a lot of my friends watched Hannah Montana too when they were kids. :)
I grew up with two older sisters so I had to kinda be accustomed to the TV shows/movies that they watched when we were younger, but oh well. :P

Yeah absolutely...there was nothing wrong with me or you watching Hannah Montana.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 08/22/17 at 1:16 am

One "girly" show I liked when I was 5-6 was the Disney cartoon Madeline, it was very cozy and pleasant. Though nobody called me gay for watching it, probably because 5-6 year olds don't crudely insult each other yet (that's more of an 8-14 thing :P )

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 08/22/17 at 1:25 am

No I absolutely do not identify High School Musical and Hannah Montanna with classic 2000s culture because it isn't. Early 2000s stuff are more '00sey than that garbage.

I agree that Hannah Montana is garbage but I still feel like 2006 was more of a transitional year than full-blown modern 2000s. During 2006 the economy was still good (before the global financial crisis began in 2007), iPhones didn't exist yet, Pluto was still a planet in the first 8 months, Republicans still controlled Congress, and classic 2000s shows like Malcolm in the Middle Yu yu hakusho, Inuyasha, Teen Titans, That 70s show, and Charmed were still around during the first 8 months of the year.

2000-2005 I see as classic 2000s, early-mid 2006 I see as a transition, and late 2006/2007 I see as full-blown modern 2000s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 08/22/17 at 9:43 am

I agree that Hannah Montana is garbage but I still feel like 2006 was more of a transitional year than full-blown modern 2000s. During 2006 the economy was still good (before the global financial crisis began in 2007), iPhones didn't exist yet, Pluto was still a planet in the first 8 months, Republicans still controlled Congress, and classic 2000s shows like Malcolm in the Middle Yu yu hakusho, Inuyasha, Teen Titans, That 70s show, and Charmed were still around during the first 8 months of the year.

2000-2005 I see as classic 2000s, early-mid 2006 I see as a transition, and late 2006/2007 I see as full-blown modern 2000s.

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Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 08/22/17 at 2:19 pm

I'm thinking the more garbage something is, the more 00's it gets. Hannah Montanna = ultimate quintessential 00's.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/22/17 at 10:45 pm

Well, there really aren't any other designations except for the halves system. It still isn't a fact that 2006 is included. If you use the halves method, 2005 and 2006 would be considered the late '00s. Most of us here use the thirds system, early, mid, and late. Either way, 2006 had quite a shift in my experience, not as big as 2008, but big enough to feel pretty different from 2004/2005. I feel like the 2010s are kind of mimicking the 2000s in this aspect.
Well, there's the quarters' system; however, that one is too complicated. By you saying that 2006 was different from 2004/2005, something huge must have happened in Canada. Oh, and what do you mean by your last statement?

One "girly" show I liked when I was 5-6 was the Disney cartoon Madeline, it was very cozy and pleasant. Though nobody called me gay for watching it, probably because 5-6-year-olds don't crudely insult each other yet (that's more of an 8-14 thing :P )
I never thought anyone here would remember the show! I actually watched it all the time when it was on along with everything else. I agree that show was good.

Well, I liked Hannah Montana, it was a part of my childhood. To be honest I couldn't care less what other people say, although I never go told that I was gay or homo for watching the show, that just seems silly. Also, a lot of my friends watched Hannah Montana too when they were kids. :)
I grew up with two older sisters so I had to kinda be accustomed to the TV shows/movies that they watched when we were younger, but oh well. :P

Yeah absolutely...there was nothing wrong with me or you watching Hannah Montana.
Yeah, there's honestly nothing wrong with watching HM, but I didn't watch it though since I stopped watching DC way before it premiered. As for girly shows, I said before there's nothing wrong with watching them at all. In fact, I watched plenty of them growing up, and they were awesome even though I wasn't part of the target audience.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/22/17 at 11:59 pm

By you saying that 2006 was different from 2004/2005, something huge must have happened in Canada. Oh, and what do you mean by your last statement?

Well there are so many threads on here called "2006 shift" or whatever and so many threads discussing the shift. Nothing huge happened in Canada other than getting a new Conservative prime minister (Stephen Harper) as he was elected that year. But there was a slight shift that made it different than the years prior. What I mean by the last statement is that the 2010s are following the pattern the 2000s had; 2016 had a slight shift (like 2006) and 2018 may see a huge shift (maybe) just like the 2000s did with '08.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Sir Rothchild on 08/23/17 at 1:07 pm

Well there are so many threads on here called "2006 shift" or whatever and so many threads discussing the shift. Nothing huge happened in Canada other than getting a new Conservative prime minister (Stephen Harper) as he was elected that year. But there was a slight shift that made it different than the years prior. What I mean by the last statement is that the 2010s are following the pattern the 2000s had; 2016 had a slight shift (like 2006) and 2018 may see a huge shift (maybe) just like the 2000s did with '08.

That's because people like Zelek and the2001 spam threads like that, even though there wasn't really anything that important during late 2006/2007. Even as an American, there wasn't a lot of big things that happened during 2006.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/17 at 2:51 pm

That's because people like Zelek and the2001 spam threads like that, even though there wasn't really anything that important during late 2006/2007. Even as an American, there wasn't a lot of big things that happened during 2006.

I would say there was a shift. It was not huge (nowhere near as big as 2008) but still kind of noticeable. Technology changed a bit and got a bit more advanced. Music became a little more dancey, Hip Hop kind of went downhill, and shows and movies started to suck. Actually there is a video on YouTube I posted here where it talks about when things started to suck and he said it was 2006, I'll post it again. There were some noticeable changes and it was like the '00s but on steroids with all the new technology coming, and unfortunately the worst part of the '00s (which is why I don't even consider it to be true '00s culture). 2006 - 2008 was some weird transition period where you still had a lot of classic '00s stuff around but modern late 2000s stuff was dominating. If I were to say when late 2000s culture was I would say from early 2006 to late 2008, and 2009 was the first full year of the early 2010s. This shift in 2006 (which also had traces in late 2005) started the late 2000s, it was not a big shift and it wasn't drastically different from the mid '00s, but it was still noticeably there.

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I agree that Hannah Montana is garbage but I still feel like 2006 was more of a transitional year than full-blown modern 2000s. During 2006 the economy was still good (before the global financial crisis began in 2007), iPhones didn't exist yet, Pluto was still a planet in the first 8 months, Republicans still controlled Congress, and classic 2000s shows like Malcolm in the Middle Yu yu hakusho, Inuyasha, Teen Titans, That 70s show, and Charmed were still around during the first 8 months of the year.

2000-2005 I see as classic 2000s, early-mid 2006 I see as a transition, and late 2006/2007 I see as full-blown modern 2000s.

I can agree with that, but I just want to forget about the modern '00s. 8-P I don't like associating the decade I grew up with the bad part which was after 2006.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: SpyroKev on 08/23/17 at 4:23 pm

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This video is nostalgic to me now. The video feels as if its older than its original upload date.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/23/17 at 7:14 pm

I would say there was a shift. It was not huge (nowhere near as big as 2008) but still kind of noticeable. Technology changed a bit and got a bit more advanced. Music became a little more dancey, Hip Hop kind of went downhill, and shows and movies started to suck. Actually there is a video on YouTube I posted here where it talks about when things started to suck and he said it was 2006, I'll post it again. There were some noticeable changes and it was like the '00s but on steroids with all the new technology coming, and unfortunately the worst part of the '00s (which is why I don't even consider it to be true '00s culture). 2006 - 2008 was some weird transition period where you still had a lot of classic '00s stuff around but modern late 2000s stuff was dominating. If I were to say when late 2000s culture was I would say from early 2006 to late 2008, and 2009 was the first full year of the early 2010s. This shift in 2006 (which also had traces in late 2005) started the late 2000s, it was not a big shift and it wasn't drastically different from the mid '00s, but it was still noticeably there.

It's simple 2007-mid 2008 is late 00's and then late 2008-2009 is modern 00's.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/23/17 at 10:32 pm

It's simple 2007-mid 2008 is late 00's and then late 2008-2009 is modern 00's.

No it isn't that simple. In 2009 (late 2008) the early 2010s arrived and the '00s died... 2006 and after is the modern '00s, 2009 and after is the early 2010s, simple as that. 2009 is not a cultural '00s year at all. There may have been some leftovers but it was absolutely clear when Obama got elected, electropop started dominating, fashion changed, social media changed, that we were in a new decade and we were out of the 2000s.

Not sure where Eric (EazyMan) is, but if he were here I think he would agree with me on this as he said the same about late 2008 starting the early 2010s on here before. Before I used to think the mid '00s lasted all the way up to 2008, but I have since changed my perspective on this and see things differently now. Now I realize the late 2000s are really a short period from 2006 to 2008, and the early 2010s started in late 2008. There were still late '00s leftovers, but the 2010s have already started.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/23/17 at 11:59 pm

No it isn't that simple. In 2009 (late 2008) the early 2010s arrived and the '00s died... 2006 and after is the modern '00s, 2009 and after is the early 2010s, simple as that. 2009 is not a cultural '00s year at all. There may have been some leftovers but it was absolutely clear when Obama got elected, electropop started dominating, fashion changed, social media changed, that we were in a new decade and we were out of the 2000s.

Not sure where Eric (EazyMan) is, but if he were here I think he would agree with me on this as he said the same about late 2008 starting the early 2010s on here before. Before I used to think the mid '00s lasted all the way up to 2008, but I have since changed my perspective on this and see things differently now. Now I realize the late 2000s are really a short period from 2006 to 2008, and the early 2010s started in late 2008. There were still late '00s leftovers, but the 2010s have already started.

Ummm, I'm sorry! Did you even read what I said!?! Because I don't remeber saying that late 2008, 2009 were late 00s years!

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 08/24/17 at 10:05 am

No it isn't that simple. In 2009 (late 2008) the early 2010s arrived and the '00s died... 2006 and after is the modern '00s, 2009 and after is the early 2010s, simple as that. 2009 is not a cultural '00s year at all. There may have been some leftovers but it was absolutely clear when Obama got elected, electropop started dominating, fashion changed, social media changed, that we were in a new decade and we were out of the 2000s.

Not sure where Eric (EazyMan) is, but if he were here I think he would agree with me on this as he said the same about late 2008 starting the early 2010s on here before. Before I used to think the mid '00s lasted all the way up to 2008, but I have since changed my perspective on this and see things differently now. Now I realize the late 2000s are really a short period from 2006 to 2008, and the early 2010s started in late 2008. There were still late '00s leftovers, but the 2010s have already started.

To clear things up with everyone

Late 2003- Aug 2006 (Mid 2000s Vibe, Mid 2000s era)
September 2006 -August 2008 (Mix vibe of classic mid 2000s/modern 2000s) This kicked of the Late 2000s era
September 2008- 2013 (Early 2010s)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/25/17 at 2:54 pm

Well, there are so many threads on here called "2006 shift" or whatever and so many threads discussing the shift. Nothing huge happened in Canada other than getting a new Conservative prime minister (Stephen Harper) as he was elected that year. But there was a slight shift that made it different than the years prior. What I mean by the last statement is that the 2010s are following the pattern the 2000s had; 2016 had a slight shift (like 2006) and 2018 may see a huge shift (maybe) just like the 2000s did with '08.
Well like Sir Rothchild said, Zelek and the2001 spam those threads; however, I think they are overestimating the 2006 shift. Looking back, there wasn't much of a change in general. The Iraq War was still in place. The recession had not happened yet. Snap-rap was all over the place despite the electronic music coming in. Fashion was still the same. Games still had variety and were not focused on the single player/online multiplayer modes or the unnecessary DLC. On top of that, social media was still largely confined to HS and college students with just Myspace and early FB along with chat sites being AIM and MSN. The web was only accessible from PCs. Digital cameras/camcorders were still used. iPods/MP3s were the used music devices. Cell phones were either flip or standard, and there were no unlimited calling and texting other people. 2006-2009 were not different from each other. The reason you might think that way is some others tend to exaggerate the changes that happened during that time.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/25/17 at 2:56 pm

Well like Sir Rothchild said, Zelek and the2001 spam those threads; however, I think they are overestimating the 2006 shift. Looking back, there wasn't much of a change in general. The Iraq War was still in place. The recession had not happened yet. Snap-rap was all over the place despite the electronic music coming in. Fashion was still the same. Games still had variety and were not focused on the single player/online multiplayer modes or the unnecessary DLC. On top of that, social media was still largely confined to HS and college students with just Myspace and early FB along with chat sites being AIM and MSN. The web was only accessible from PCs. Digital cameras/camcorders were still used. iPods/MP3s were the used music devices. Cell phones were either flip or standard, and there were no unlimited calling and texting other people. 2006-2009 were not different from each other. The reason you might think that way is some others tend to exaggerate the changes that happened during that time.

I agree.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/25/17 at 3:35 pm

Well like Sir Rothchild said, Zelek and the2001 spam those threads; however, I think they are overestimating the 2006 shift. Looking back, there wasn't much of a change in general. The Iraq War was still in place. The recession had not happened yet. Snap-rap was all over the place despite the electronic music coming in. Fashion was still the same. Games still had variety and were not focused on the single player/online multiplayer modes or the unnecessary DLC. On top of that, social media was still largely confined to HS and college students with just Myspace and early FB along with chat sites being AIM and MSN. The web was only accessible from PCs. Digital cameras/camcorders were still used. iPods/MP3s were the used music devices. Cell phones were either flip or standard, and there were no unlimited calling and texting other people. 2006-2009 were not different from each other. The reason you might think that way is some others tend to exaggerate the changes that happened during that time.

I agree with this. The "2006 shift" was really simply the death knell of the last remnants of the late '90s/Y2K era culture. The then-current '00s culture didn't change much in 2006. The possible exception would be video games. Other aspects of tech weren't that different between early 2006 and late 2006.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/25/17 at 3:39 pm

Well like Sir Rothchild said, Zelek and the2001 spam those threads; however, I think they are overestimating the 2006 shift. Looking back, there wasn't much of a change in general. The Iraq War was still in place. The recession had not happened yet. Snap-rap was all over the place despite the electronic music coming in. Fashion was still the same. Games still had variety and were not focused on the single player/online multiplayer modes or the unnecessary DLC. On top of that, social media was still largely confined to HS and college students with just Myspace and early FB along with chat sites being AIM and MSN. The web was only accessible from PCs. Digital cameras/camcorders were still used. iPods/MP3s were the used music devices. Cell phones were either flip or standard, and there were no unlimited calling and texting other people. 2006-2009 were not different from each other. The reason you might think that way is some others tend to exaggerate the changes that happened during that time.

Well if that were the case I would go back to saying the late '00s and early '10s are the same era and they started in late 2008. But there was at least a small shift in 2006, which is what started the late 2000s. I agree the shift is exaggerated, but it was still there.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 08/25/17 at 3:44 pm

I agree with this. The "2006 shift" was really simply the death knell of the last remnants of the late '90s/Y2K era culture. The then-current '00s culture didn't change much in 2006. The possible exception would be video games. Other aspects of tech weren't that different between early 2006 and late 2006.

I agree with you.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 08/25/17 at 4:07 pm

I agree with this. The "2006 shift" was really simply the death knell of the last remnants of the late '90s/Y2K era culture. The then-current '00s culture didn't change much in 2006. The possible exception would be video games. Other aspects of tech weren't that different between early 2006 and late 2006.
Very true. The things from the late '90s/Y2K era culture that was there were now disappearing such as MITM, 70s Show, Charmed, iMacs, etc. OTT, 2006 was pretty much the as same the years before and after.

Well if that were the case I would go back to saying the late '00s and early '10s are the same eras and they started in late 2008. But there was at least a small shift in 2006, which is what started the late 2000s. I agree the shift is exaggerated, but it was still there.
Well, I'm not denying that there was a shift in 2006. I'm just saying it wasn't as huge as the two others users are making it out to be. Oh, and no both the late 00s and early 10s were different eras. No offense, but I think you seem to forget certain things from that time period. I mean Hip-hop was still a dominant force, and fashion remained unchanged. In addition, social media was mainly HS and college students instead of everyone and the recession had already happened before the decade was over.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/25/17 at 5:15 pm

Well, I'm not denying that there was a shift in 2006. I'm just saying it wasn't as huge as the two others users are making it out to be.

I agree with you there

Oh, and no both the late 00s and early 10s were different eras. No offense, but I think you seem to forget certain things from that time period. I mean Hip-hop was still a dominant force, and fashion remained unchanged. In addition, social media was mainly HS and college students instead of everyone and the recession had already happened before the decade was over.

Well late 2008/2009 was the same era as the early 2010s, that's for sure.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 08/25/17 at 5:20 pm

I agree with you thereWell late 2008/2009 was the same era as the early 2010s, that's for sure.

When do you think the early 2010s ended?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 08/25/17 at 5:23 pm

When do you think the early 2010s ended?

It ended in 2013. 2014 was the first year of the mid 2010s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 08/31/17 at 9:13 am

Very true. The things from the late '90s/Y2K era culture that was there were now disappearing such as MITM, 70s Show, Charmed, iMacs, etc. OTT, 2006 was pretty much the as same the years before and after.
Well, I'm not denying that there was a shift in 2006. I'm just saying it wasn't as huge as the two others users are making it out to be. Oh, and no both the late 00s and early 10s were different eras. No offense, but I think you seem to forget certain things from that time period. I mean Hip-hop was still a dominant force, and fashion remained unchanged. In addition, social media was mainly HS and college students instead of everyone and the recession had already happened before the decade was over.

All of this is why I simply label September 2004 (release of American Idiot) to November 2008 (the election obviously) as "Peak 2000s," rather than trying to ascribe "early," "mid," or "late" to any of it.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 08/31/17 at 9:15 am

All of this is why I simply label September 2004 (release of American Idiot) to November 2008 (the election obviously) as "Peak 2000s," rather than trying to ascribe "early," "mid," or "late" to any of it.

Welcome to inthe00s :)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 08/31/17 at 12:25 pm

Haha thanks. I'll probably get the joke over time.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 08/31/17 at 4:58 pm

All of this is why I simply label September 2004 (release of American Idiot) to November 2008 (the election obviously) as "Peak 2000s," rather than trying to ascribe "early," "mid," or "late" to any of it.

I could get behind that 8).

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 08/31/17 at 10:23 pm

I could get behind that 8).

Same here. 2004 to 2008 was the peak of '00s culture. People forget how '00s the summer of 2008 was. That was a firmly '00s world. Bush was President. The War in Iraq was probably the second biggest political issue next to the looming recession. High gas prices were a big, big deal and everyone was freaking out about having to pay $3.99 for a gallon of gas (we did have another gas spike in the 2011-12 timeframe but people didn't seem to freak out about that one as much). Hip-hop/r&b and post-grunge dominate pop music until the very end of the year when electropop shows up. Hip-hop was that very distinct early trap synth-pop style that dominated the second half of the '00s.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/01/17 at 5:12 am

Oh, and emo still dominating the airwaves. Can't forget about that.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ZeldaFan20 on 09/01/17 at 9:16 am

Same here. 2004 to 2008 was the peak of '00s culture. People forget how '00s the summer of 2008 was. That was a firmly '00s world. Bush was President. The War in Iraq was probably the second biggest political issue next to the looming recession. High gas prices were a big, big deal and everyone was freaking out about having to pay $3.99 for a gallon of gas (we did have another gas spike in the 2011-12 timeframe but people didn't seem to freak out about that one as much). Hip-hop/r&b and post-grunge dominate pop music until the very end of the year when electropop shows up. Hip-hop was that very distinct early trap synth-pop style that dominated the second half of the '00s.

THIS.

One of many reasons why I consider 2008 the quintessential Late 2000's Cultural Year.

Oh, and emo still dominating the airwaves. Can't forget about that.

Good points!

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 09/01/17 at 9:51 am

Oh, and emo still dominating the airwaves. Can't forget about that.

Yeah, and probably 95% of guys between ages of 14 and 24 wearing this haircut.

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Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/01/17 at 10:18 am

Yeah, and probably 95% of guys between ages of 14 and 24 wearing this haircut.

95%? Woah...where did get that from? :o

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 09/01/17 at 12:04 pm

95%? Woah...where did get that from? :o

Not sure it was that high but it was up there, especially in gamer/geek culture as well as gay culture. That male haircut is one of the defining things about late '00s fashion for me.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/01/17 at 12:19 pm

Not sure it was that high but it was up there, especially in gamer/geek culture as well as gay culture. That male haircut is one of the defining things about late '00s fashion for me.

The emo culture and haircut pertained to a sizable minority of men but not a majority.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/01/17 at 12:34 pm

Definitely not a majority. I was in high school at that time, and people were more likely to make fun of emos and that hair.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 09/01/17 at 1:49 pm

Definitely not a majority. I was in high school at that time, and people were more likely to make fun of emos and that hair.

Interesting. For me, it's probably because I was heavily involved in gamer/geek culture back then and am also gay. Almost all guys in my age range had that hairstyle. I desperately wanted it but I have naturally curly hair (almost perm-like) and I could never get it to work without straightening it and that became too much of a pain.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 09/01/17 at 2:52 pm

Interesting. For me, it's probably because I was heavily involved in gamer/geek culture back then and am also gay. Almost all guys in my age range had that hairstyle. I desperately wanted it but I have naturally curly hair (almost perm-like) and I could never get it to work without straightening it and that became too much of a pain.

I agree with you and think most guys did have that hairstyle too. I personally didn't but most people I knew did as well as in general.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 09/01/17 at 5:34 pm

Yeah, and probably 95% of guys between ages of 14 and 24 wearing this haircut.

I had long hair in the late 2000s too. Around February 2009 it grew so long that my dad forced me to cut it. ;D I also had long hair for a bit in 2012/2013 and late 2015.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/01/17 at 6:44 pm

Interesting. For me, it's probably because I was heavily involved in gamer/geek culture back then and am also gay. Almost all guys in my age range had that hairstyle. I desperately wanted it but I have naturally curly hair (almost perm-like) and I could never get it to work without straightening it and that became too much of a pain.

It could be a state difference. Did you live on one of the coasts? I'm in the Midwest and people used to brag about beating up emos (I still hate it here please send help).

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 09/02/17 at 1:51 am

It could be a state difference. Did you live on one of the coasts? I'm in the Midwest and people used to brag about beating up emos (I still hate it here please send help).

The Deep South. Most people who had that haircut didn't call themselves "emo" but instead called themselves "scene." Basically, scene was emo-lite. I never knew why they called it scene, even back then.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/03/17 at 11:14 pm

Well, late 2008/2009 was the same era as the early 2010s, that's for sure.
Not really. There may have been some things from late 2008/2009 in the early 10s, but it wasn't that similar.

All of this is why I simply label September 2004 (release of American Idiot) to November 2008 (the election obviously) as "Peak 2000s," rather than trying to ascribe "early," "mid," or "late" to any of it.
Agreed! Although for me, I would extend that period much longer. 2001-03 had things that were peak 2000s.

Same here. 2004 to 2008 was the peak of '00s culture. People forget how '00s the summer of 2008 was. That was a firmly '00s world. Bush was President. The War in Iraq was probably the second biggest political issue next to the looming recession. High gas prices were a big, big deal and everyone was freaking out about having to pay $3.99 for a gallon of gas (we did have another gas spike in the 2011-12 time frame but people didn't seem to freak out about that one as much). Hip-hop/r&b and post-grunge dominate pop music until the very end of the year when electro-pop shows up. Hip-hop was that very distinct early trap synth-pop style that dominated the second half of the '00s.
I agree with the entire post. It really seems that some folks underestimate the power of the 00s in 2008 and even '09.

That male haircut is one of the defining things about late '00s fashion for me.
And the mid-00s as well. I remember seeing that hairstyle on guys in person and in movies/tv shows whether they were gamers/emos or not. The other one would be the spiky hair. I saw guys with that haircut even up to 2009.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 09/03/17 at 11:29 pm

Not really. There may have been some things from late 2008/2009 in the early 10s, but it wasn't that similar.

Honestly it was not only similar, it was pretty much identical. Definitely the same era.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/03/17 at 11:38 pm

Honestly it was not only similar, it was pretty much identical. Definitely the same era.

Absolutely not, IMO.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/03/17 at 11:43 pm

Honestly, it was not only similar, it was pretty much identical. Definitely the same era.
In what ways though? I've been checking out things from that period, and it seems to connect more with the rest of the decade than 2010+

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/04/17 at 12:04 am

Yeah, as is probably evident from my Peak 2000s categorization, I feel like the current era picks up right after November 2008.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 09/04/17 at 9:42 am

In what ways though? I've been checking out things from that period, and it seems to connect more with the rest of the decade than 2010+

Many things like celebrities and singers who were popular, electropop, Obama being president, the recession, and technology (technology the same until 2011 when smartphones started exploding). It was the same era for sure.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/04/17 at 11:40 pm

Many things like celebrities and singers who were popular, electropop, Obama being president, the recession, and technology (the technology was the same until 2011 when smartphones started exploding). It was the same era for sure.
I have to disagree. There are celebrities and singers who were popular in the 2000s but aren't today and vice versa. Electropop wasn't really huge in late 2008-09. You're forgetting Rock, Hip-hop, R&B and even Pop-rock which all were just as popular during that era. As for technology, what do you mean? Are we just talking about cell phones or all the tech that was popular in that timeframe?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 09/05/17 at 1:37 am

I have to disagree. There are celebrities and singers who were popular in the 2000s but aren't today and vice versa. Electropop wasn't really huge in late 2008-09. You're forgetting Rock, Hip-hop, R&B and even Pop-rock which all were just as popular during that era. As for technology, what do you mean? Are we just talking about cell phones or all the tech that was popular in that timeframe?

A lot of people forget the novelty era of the iPhone. Smartphones didn't start to become standard until around 2011. In 2007 and 2008, it was mostly tech geeks and people with money who had iPhones. A lot of teenagers were jealous of people who had them. They were a novelty. They were a great conversation starter and something to show off to your friends. In 2009, the iPhone started to become a lot more popular but it was still a very different world compared to today.

Here is a 2009 iPhone 3GS. The iPhone had no smartphone competitors until Android phones came out in 2010. Blackberries, in my opinion, are precursors to smartphones and are not actually smartphones.

https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/larger/public/field/image/2013/08/iphone_3gs_hero_4x3.jpg?itok=US-5o6YH

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 09/05/17 at 4:50 pm

A lot of people forget the novelty era of the iPhone. Smartphones didn't start to become standard until around 2011. In 2007 and 2008, it was mostly tech geeks and people with money who had iPhones. A lot of teenagers were jealous of people who had them. They were a novelty. They were a great conversation starter and something to show off to your friends. In 2009, the iPhone started to become a lot more popular but it was still a very different world compared to today.

Here is a 2009 iPhone 3GS. The iPhone had no smartphone competitors until Android phones came out in 2010. Blackberries, in my opinion, are precursors to smartphones and are not actually smartphones.

https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/larger/public/field/image/2013/08/iphone_3gs_hero_4x3.jpg?itok=US-5o6YH

I found an old shoebox of mine, Nike, and under the cover there's an advertisement for the NikePlus app, which it says you can access from your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPod Nano. No mention of Android! ;D I have four Nike shoes, one I bought in 2009, two in 2010, and another in 2015. I think this must be from 2009. I'll see if I can find it again.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/06/17 at 7:03 pm

A lot of people forget the novelty era of the iPhone. Smartphones didn't start to become standard until around 2011. In 2007 and 2008, it was mostly tech geeks and people with money who had iPhones. A lot of teenagers were jealous of people who had them. They were a novelty. They were a great conversation starter and something to show off to your friends. In 2009, the iPhone started to become a lot more popular but it was still a very different world compared to today.

Here is a 2009 iPhone 3GS. The iPhone had no smartphone competitors until Android phones came out in 2010. Blackberries, in my opinion, are precursors to smartphones and are not actually smartphones.

https://www.imore.com/sites/imore.com/files/styles/larger/public/field/image/2013/08/iphone_3gs_hero_4x3.jpg?itok=US-5o6YH
Hell yeah! They definitely forget. The first few actually didn't have any of the features that the iPhones today have, and I agree they were a luxury. It was normal for everyone to have a cell phone until the time you mentioned.

Oh, and what do you consider the blackberries if they're not smartphones?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: bchris02 on 09/06/17 at 8:39 pm

Hell yeah! They definitely forget. The first few actually didn't have any of the features that the iPhones today have, and I agree they were a luxury. It was normal for everyone to have a cell phone until the time you mentioned.

Oh, and what do you consider the blackberries if they're not smartphones?

Blackberries are pre-smartphones. They are what HD CRT TVs were compared to the HDTVs we all think of today or what Windows XP tablets were compared to modern tablets such as the Surface Pro. They simply aren't comparable. Smartphones began with the iPhone and that had a monopoly on the market until the early '10s when android arrived.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/06/17 at 9:02 pm

Blackberries are pre-smartphones. They are what HD CRT TVs were compared to the HDTVs we all think of today or what Windows XP tablets were compared to modern tablets such as the Surface Pro. They simply aren't comparable. Smartphones began with the iPhone and that had a monopoly on the market until the early '10s when Android arrived.
I can agree with that. In fact, one of my cousins and uncles both had one in 2010, and I asked if I can use it for a few minutes. Everything felt the same, and it definitely had the touch of a cell phone despite that it had a touchscreen. Here's the one they had.

https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blackberry-style.jpg

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/06/17 at 9:49 pm

Blackberries are pre-smartphones. They are what HD CRT TVs were compared to the HDTVs we all think of today or what Windows XP tablets were compared to modern tablets such as the Surface Pro. They simply aren't comparable. Smartphones began with the iPhone and that had a monopoly on the market until the early '10s when android arrived.

Oh God, remember the days before HDTV? Me neither. I simply can't even think back to what regular definition television was like.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Zelek3 on 09/06/17 at 10:22 pm

I simply can't even think back to what regular definition television was like.

I can, very easily, because we still have a standard def TV in our house.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/06/17 at 10:41 pm

Oh God, remember the days before HDTV? Me neither. I simply can't even think back to what regular definition television was like.
I can. I've seen youtube videos in standard 480 resolution.

I can, very easily, because we still have a standard def TV in our house.
Same here.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: LooseBolt on 09/06/17 at 11:06 pm

Oh, well then. Guess I should check my privilege at the door, my b.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: mxcrashxm on 09/06/17 at 11:15 pm

Oh, well then. Guess I should check my privilege at the door, my b.
I understand what you mean though. I mean when was the last time standard definition was common? Everything has been broadcasted in HD or higher for about a decade.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 09/07/17 at 9:21 am

I understand what you mean though. I mean when was the last time standard definition was common? Everything has been broadcasted in HD or higher for about a decade.

I would say 2009. However, there are still a few channels that are in standard definition.

My mom and step-dad bought an HDTV on Black Friday 2011 (November 25, 2011). However, I still had an old boxy TV from 2005 that my mom and I had originally used. They didn't buy a newer and wider HDTV until late 2015 and then a few months later they gave me the HDTV that they had been using since 2011. So, I threw out the old 2005 TV after over a decade of watching it.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 12/30/17 at 6:49 pm

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2001: 50%
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2005: 100%
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2009: 50%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 12/30/17 at 7:29 pm

New list

2000 - 35%
2001 70%
2002 80 %
2003 69%
2004 90%
2005 100%
2006 94%
2007 70%
2008 69%
2009 35%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Longaotian00 on 12/30/17 at 7:34 pm

New list

2000 - 35%
2001 70%
2002 80 %
2003 69%
2004 90%
2005 100%
2006 94%
2007 70%
2008 69%
2009 35%

I agree that 2000 & 2009 weren't really relevant to the 2000s. Tbh, 2001 seems like the year that really got the 00s going in most aspects of culture, and 2008 was kind of like when most of the decade defining things seemed to end or start losing popularity.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 12/30/17 at 8:23 pm

I agree that 2000 & 2009 weren't really relevant to the 2000s. Tbh, 2001 seems like the year that really got the 00s going in most aspects of culture, and 2008 was kind of like when most of the decade defining things seemed to end or start losing popularity.

yeah a huge jump when late 2001 rolls around, I feel like that is when things were feeling like the 2000s in general

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 12/30/17 at 8:42 pm

Both 2000 and 2001 feel VERY 2000s to me. Even 1999 feels like the 2000s culturally. In fact, the year 2000 feels more '00sey to me than the year 2006 does. 2000 - 2005 were all pretty much 100% 2000s and then it started to go down a bit in 2006 and the '00seyness disappeared in 2009.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Dundee on 02/19/18 at 3:04 pm

My take
2000: 60% I guess?
2001: 70%
2002: 80%
2003: 90%
2004: 100%
2005: 100%
2006: 95%
2007: 85%
2008: 45%
2009: 20%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 02/19/18 at 3:19 pm

Oh, well then. Guess I should check my privilege at the door, my b.

My friend bought a CRT a few years ago to play retro games and the screen is so small, honestly, what's the point. It's better to just emulate it. ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ofkx on 04/09/18 at 9:23 am

2000: 50%
2001: 55%
2002: 65%
2003: 85%
2004: 90%
2005: 100%
2006: 100%
2007: 90%
2008: 85%
2009: 50%
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2010: 35%
2011: 25%
2012: 0%
And before you tell me the 00s were completely gone in the early 2010s, I want you to watch this video lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWdrO4BoCu8&list=PLBE370CFB415B28A9&index=70
Edit: I feel like I should clarify that I DON'T think the 00s extended to the early 2010s, just that there were some 00s holdovers.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/09/18 at 1:14 pm

And before you tell me the 00s were completely gone in the early 2010s, I want you to watch this video lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWdrO4BoCu8&list=PLBE370CFB415B28A9&index=70

To be fair that song was recorded in 2009 and released in very early 2010 (February 9, 2010).

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your point though.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/09/18 at 1:58 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWdrO4BoCu8&list=PLBE370CFB415B28A9&index=70

I don't get what's so 2000s about this video or the Remember 2009 video. :-X

She's wearing a leather jacket and leggings, those two were very popular trends from 2009-2011, I remember that from high school. Not many leather jackets in 2006/2007, although the leggings/long black socks trend became popular in 2007. And the dude in the video is dressed hipster too. ZERO dudes were dressed like the in the core 2000s, trust me, they would get beat up or laughed at at best for sure.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: SpyroKev on 04/09/18 at 2:03 pm

2000: 50%
2001: 55%
2002: 65%
2003: 85%
2004: 90%
2005: 100%
2006: 100%
2007: 90%
2008: 85%
2009: 50%
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2010: 35%
2011: 25%
2012: 0%
And before you tell me the 00s were completely gone in the early 2010s, I want you to watch this video lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWdrO4BoCu8&list=PLBE370CFB415B28A9&index=70

I.. really like this. It literally sucked me into this topic.

Its like how I would rate if I analyzed them.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ofkx on 04/09/18 at 2:06 pm

I don't get what's so 2000s about this video or the Remember 2009 video. :-X

She's wearing a leather jacket and leggings, those two were very popular trends from 2009-2011, I remember that from high school. Not many leather jackets in 2006/2007, although the leggings trend became popular in 2007. And the dude in the video is dressed hipster too.

Really? It looks more like something that would be released in 2007/2008 IMO. It reminds me a bit of the music video for Beyonce's "Irreplaceable", and it even sounds a bit like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EwViQxSJJQ&list=PLgDP5UKLWaCC6XVta4yuvvLCRiGjHiHCO

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: prodanny288 on 04/09/18 at 2:12 pm

2009 felt like an early 2010s year in everything but name alone. I can’t really consider 2009 a 2000s year due to the fact that it wasn’t really 2000s culture anymore. Early 2010s were in full swing.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/09/18 at 2:27 pm

Really? It looks more like something that would be released in 2007/2008 IMO. It reminds me a bit of the music video for Beyonce's "Irreplaceable", and it even sounds a bit like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EwViQxSJJQ&list=PLgDP5UKLWaCC6XVta4yuvvLCRiGjHiHCO

You don't see the difference? She's wearing flared jeans, studded belt and tank top, and the dude is wearing very baggy clothing and jeans. In the 2010 video, it's all about skinny jeans, tattooos and all those light fitted clothes that were definitely bought at H&M. Pause at the 2:49 mark in your Shontelle video and tell me that isn't the most 2010s thing ever :P

edit: Oh no, I found at the 2:58 minute mark in 'Irreplaceable' Beyoncé wearing cargo shorts. Definitely a huge no-no by 2010 ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/09/18 at 2:33 pm

I must be missing something here. I don't think that 2009 was 70% or higher more culturally '00s than '10s.

However, I would say that it was about 55-60% culturally '00s, 40-45% culturally '10s (early 2010s).

2009 was NOT "100% PURE EARLY 2010s culture".

I don't know what some of y'all are smoking :-X.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: ofkx on 04/09/18 at 2:40 pm

You don't see the difference? She's wearing flared jeans, studded belt and tank top, and the dude is wearing very baggy clothing and jeans. In the 2010 video, it's all about skinny jeans, tattooos and all those light fitted clothes that were definitely bought at H&M. Pause at the 2:49 mark in your Shontelle video and tell me that isn't the most 2010s thing ever :P

edit: Oh no, I found at the 2:58 minute mark in 'Irreplaceable' Beyoncé wearing cargo shorts. Definitely a huge no-no by 2010 ;D

I never meant that they were exactly the same, just similar.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Wobo on 04/09/18 at 2:44 pm

2000: 50%
2001: 62%
2002: 81%
2003: 90%
2004: 99%
2005: 100%
2006: 100%
2007 100%
2008: 100%
2009: 99%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/09/18 at 2:53 pm

I never meant that they were exactly the same, just similar.

I see. Sorry for being hyper-specific. It's just that those were my teen years, so I remember switching out the clothes every year and knowing what was outdated and what was in ;D

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Dundee on 04/09/18 at 2:53 pm

Really? It looks more like something that would be released in 2007/2008 IMO. It reminds me a bit of the music video for Beyonce's "Irreplaceable", and it even sounds a bit like it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EwViQxSJJQ&list=PLgDP5UKLWaCC6XVta4yuvvLCRiGjHiHCO
Those are some impressive belts Beyoncé is wearing :o

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Tyrannosaurus Rex on 04/09/18 at 3:01 pm

2000: 40%
2001: 50%
2002: 70%
2003: 80%
2004: 90%
2005: 100%
2006: 100%
2007: 100%
2008: 85%
2009: 50%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: 2001 on 04/09/18 at 3:15 pm

I was a very smart man once upon a time since I somehow managed to stay out of this thread originally. Too bad it isn't true anymore, so here's what I think

1997 - 5%
1998 - 20%
1999 - 35%
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2000 – 55%
2001 – 70%
2002 – 85%
2003 – 95%
2004 – 100%
2005 – 100%
2006 – 100%
2007 – 90%
2008 – 75%
2009 – 40%
--------
2010 – 20%
2011 – 10%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/09/18 at 3:40 pm

I was a very smart man once upon a time since I somehow managed to stay out of this thread originally. Too bad it isn't true anymore, so here's what I think

1997 - 5%
1998 - 20%
1999 - 35%
-------
2000 – 55%
2001 – 70%
2002 – 85%
2003 – 95%
2004 – 100%
2005 – 100%
2006 – 100%
2007 – 90%
2008 – 75%
2009 – 40%
--------
2010 – 20%
2011 – 10%

That's actually pretty solid. I agree.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/16/18 at 12:56 am

Lemme take a crack at this! 8)

2000 - 0%
2001 - 0%
2002 - 0%
2003 - 75%
2004 - 100%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 100%
2007 - 100%
2008 - 100%
2009 - 100%

Pretty good, huh?

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: JordanK1982 on 04/16/18 at 1:07 am

I was a very smart man once upon a time since I somehow managed to stay out of this thread originally. Too bad it isn't true anymore, so here's what I think

1997 - 5%
1998 - 20%
1999 - 35%
-------
2000 – 55%
2001 – 70%
2002 – 85%
2003 – 95%
2004 – 100%
2005 – 100%
2006 – 100%
2007 – 90%
2008 – 75%
2009 – 40%
--------
2010 – 20%
2011 – 10%

Okay, Mr. Liar, explain this!

Oh, right, I forgot to do mine

2000 - 60%
2001 - 75%
2002 - 85%
2003 - 95%
2004 - 100%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 100%
2007 - 100%
2008 - 80%
2009 - 55%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 04/16/18 at 11:20 am

Lemme take a crack at this! 8)

2000 - 0%
2001 - 0%
2002 - 0%
2003 - 75%
2004 - 100%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 100%
2007 - 100%
2008 - 100%
2009 - 100%

Pretty good, huh?

2009 was not 100%

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: TheReignMan99 on 04/16/18 at 11:25 am

2009 was not 100%

He was just joking. JordanK1982 doesn't like decadeology.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: John Titor on 04/16/18 at 11:27 am

He was just joking. JordanK1982 doesn't like decadeology.

lol

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: AstroPoug on 04/12/21 at 6:18 pm

1999 (20%): SpongeBob, Family Guy, Eminem, LiveJournal launches, Dreamcast released (though more of a Y2K era console than true 2000s), First Tony Hawk game comes out
2000 (35%): Linkin Park, PS2 launches, controversially Bush becomes president, Homestar Runner starts
2001 (70%): The true start of 2000s culture. iPod is launched, Windows XP is released, Xbox and GameCube are released, Game Boy Advance released, GTA 3, Smash Melee, and Halo are released, Shrek is released, indie boom starts with The Strokes' Is This It, emo boom starts with Bleed American by Jimmy Eat World, 9/11, Adult Swim launches
2002 (75%): Yu-Gi-Oh boom happens, Jimmy Neutron cartoon, crunk boom starts, First Flash cartoon on TV (Mucha Lucha) debuts
2003 (85%): Dreamworks and Warner Bros release their last 2D animated films (and Warner Bros Animation dies shortly after), MySpace and Friendster launch, Totally Spies (the most 00s cartoon ever) first airs, Blackberry launches, Iraq War starts
2004 (95%): Motorola Razr, GTA San Andreas released, Cartoon Network rebrands, Jetix launches, Drake and Josh first airs, LazyTown first airs, Miguzi launches, emo explodes in popularity, Facebook is launched but only to college students, Green Day's American Idiot is released
2005 (100%): peak of "anime-like" cartoons (HiHi Puffy AmiYumi, Teen Titans, Avatar: The Last Airbender), Johnny Test comes out, iPod Shuffle and Nano are released, Naruto explodes in popularity, Xbox 360 is released, YouTube and Reddit launch, Family Guy returns, Guitar Hero starts rhythm game craze
2006 (95%): Zune is released, Wii and PS3 are released, Facebook is released to the public, Twitter is launched
2007 (85%): Windows Vista launches, iPhone launches, Netflix launches streaming service, Call of Duty blows up in popularity with Modern Warfare, Team Fortress 2, iCarly, Phineas and Ferb, Rock Band and Guitar Hero III result in rhythm games peaking, Linkin Park changes their sound
2008 (75%): Meme culture blows up (think rickrolling) in the mainstream, App Store comes out, Android launches, peak of early "Spadinner" YouTube Poops, peak of Flash games, Barack Obama is elected president
2009 (50%): YouTube launches in HD, Windows 7 comes out, microtransactions become popular, Nickelodeon rebrands, Pepsi rebrands, first build of Minecraft is released
2010 (20%): Cartoon Network rebrands, Adventure Time first airs, "CalArts" style emerges and starts to replace angular style, emergence of bronies, PewDiePie launches YouTube channel, Instagram launches, Facebook overtakes MySpace in popularity, rhythm game trend dies off, emo culture dies off, YouTube replaces star rating system with likes and dislikes, My Chemcial Romance releases the decidedly non-angsty and non-emo Danger Days, scene culture takes over
2011 (10%): Flat design starts to become popular, TAWOG comes out, Minecraft is officially released, Snapchat launches, Blackberry dies off, hipster culture takes off
2012 (5%): Windows 8 comes out, Wii U comes out
2013 (0%): iOS 7 comes out, Steven Universe comes out, all traces of old YouTube are removed, Vine launches, PS4 and Xbox One are released, Netflix begins launching original series (House of Cards, Orange Is the New Black), PS2, the final console of the 6th gen, is finally discontinued

Most 00s-like 00s year: 2005
Least 00s-like 00s year: 2000 (basically still mainly late 90s culture with some elements of early 00s culture)

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: NightmareFarm on 04/12/21 at 6:32 pm

1999 - 50%
2000 - 65% (the big leap is because early 1999 was still majority 90s)
2001 - 75%
2002 - 85%
2003 - 90%
2004 - 95%
2005 - 100%
2006 - 95%
2007 - 85%
2008 - 75%
2009 - 55%
2010 - 20%
2011 - 10%
2012 - 5%
2013 - 2%

This seems very accurate. Late 00s was not the same era as the early 10s although they shared some things in common.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: NightmareFarm on 04/12/21 at 6:38 pm

Geez, what's with all the "love" for 2007? That year sticks out like a sore thumb because it represented such a loud and pronounced departure from the hardcore 00s-ness of 2004-2006. Of all the shifts that happened that decade, 2006-2007 was easily the most transformational in my book. I probably view 2007 in the same way that someone 10 years older than me views 1997.

This song and its music video were released in very late 2006, very early 2007. Could this not pass for 2010?

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That sounds nothing like a 2010 song.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/12/21 at 10:22 pm

That sounds nothing like a 2010 song.

The music video looks very 2010s though. The song itself could pass as a 2010s song too.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: NightmareFarm on 04/12/21 at 11:40 pm

The music video looks very 2010s though. The song itself could pass as a 2010s song too.

Dude, that's like the least 2010s like song that was on the charts that year. The look of it is even more dated than the way it sounds. It looks like something out of the 90s with higher camera quality and sounds very distinctly 00s.

"Stronger" and "The way I are" are much better contenders for a 10s passing song in 2007.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: Slim95 on 04/12/21 at 11:52 pm

Dude, that's like the least 2010s like song that was on the charts that year. The look of it is even more dated than the way it sounds. It looks like something out of the 90s with higher camera quality and sounds very distinctly 00s.

"Stronger" and "The way I are" are much better contenders for a 10s passing song in 2007.

I think that can totally pass for 2010 especially the music video itself. It is quite modern with the bright yellow colours popping out. In 2010 you had a lot of videos with bright colours because it fit with the higher resolution cameras.

Subject: Re: The '00seyness of '00s years

Written By: NightmareFarm on 04/13/21 at 12:11 am

I think that can totally pass for 2010 especially the music video itself. It is quite modern with the bright yellow colours popping out. In 2010 you had a lot of videos with bright colours because it fit with the higher resolution cameras.

But 2010 isn't the only year with vibrant coloured music videos. 90s was too and this gives off way more 90s vibes.

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