Now that we have officially moved into the late '10s, I just find myself stunned at how old the early '00s are getting. The technology certainly seems dated, but my memories of 2000-2002 still seem like yesterday, not slowly creeping up on 20 years ago! :o

Then I got to thinking about it the other day, and had to remind myself of these alarming facts:

*You have to be at least 18 years old (born in 1999) in order to remember the early '00s at all.
*You have to be at least 20 years old (born in 1997) in order to have at least some memories from every year in the early '00s.
*You have to be at least around 23 years old (born in 1993-94ish/perhaps '95) to have crystal clear memories of every year in the early '00s.
*If you were a teenager at any point in the early '00s, then you are either over 30 years old, or close to it.

In addition, assuming that 2002-03 was the last early '00s school year:

*You have to be at least 29 years old (born in 1988) in order to have attended high school in the early '00s.
*You have to be at least 26 years old (born in 1991) in order to have attended middle school in the early '00s.
*You have to be at least 20 years old (born in 1997) in order to have attended elementary school in the early '00s.

So, using this thread as something of a survey, home many members of inthe00s in 2017 would say that they have a "solid" memory of 2000-2002?

Okay, so I was born in December of 1999, and I have memories of 2002 and 2003. Does that still count for your chart?

Very well, I'm an '88er born!

Does 2003 count as the early 2000s to the OP (original poster)?

I was around 10-12/13 from 2000-2002/3. I can remember it well enough. To me the last ones to remember it clearly were school aged children by the early 2000s (5-12). So to me those who are early 2000s kids would be 1993-1995 (22-24 as of 2017) which does match with your description of those around 23. By 2000 they were 5-7 and by 2003 they were 8-10. So as kids they should remember the years pretty well when they think back on their childhoods. By the end of the early 2000s a majority of their childhood was over. So to me the last to fully remember the early 2000s (or remember nearly 100% of the time period) were those from 1993-1995. Although as for those who should still be able to remember the early 2000s despite not remembering all of it? I'd go with those from 1996 - 1997/1998. At least when going by those who were school aged children by the era. As for myself I can remember my preteen years quite well outside of a few moments that are lost to time (I have bad memory sometimes).

Although with all this said I must stress that everyone does grow up differently. Someone from 1997 can say that they fully remember 2000-2002/'03 and I won't be the guy to tell that person if he/she is wrong or right for saying so.

Does 2003 count as the early 2000s to the OP (original poster)?


I'm not sure how Machine_head feels about 2003, but for from what I remember most of 2003 felt like 2002. And 2002 is 100% an early 2000s year both culturally and numerically. Although around fall of 2003 I'd say that is when mid 00s came along.

Does 2003 count as the early 2000s to the OP (original poster)?


Depends on if he means culturally, or literally.  :o

Pretty well, though I remember the mid and late 00s just a bit more sharply.

I remember it very well!

I was in my 20s during the decade so I remember it well. :) However, I seemed to have blocked 2000(the year) and I don't remember it... :-\\ I can remember every other year of the decade after that vividly.

I was in my 20s during the decade so I remember it well. :) However, I seemed to have blocked 2000(the year) and I don't remember it... :-\\ I can remember every other year of the decade after that vividly.


Maybe something happened in that around that time that caused you to remove the year 2000 from your memory.

Maybe something happened in that around that time that caused you to remove the year 2000 from your memory.


I get the feeling there was something that happened, I just don't remember lol. I can't even remember my 20th birthday which is sad because I want to.

'93er. I was 7-9/10 so I got it down pat.  8) I was picking up more tween habits as 2003 dragged on. Pokémon Ruby and Dragonball GT killed my childhood.  :\'( ;D

*You have to be at least 18 years old (born in 1999) in order to remember the early '00s at all.


To be honest, I think people born in 2000 are the last to have any memories of the Early 2000s. A friend of mine born in May 2000 told me once that he can vaguely remember 2002. I have also read comments from online people born in 2000, saying that they can at least remember 2003.

As for myself, I can vaguely remember 2001, but I have clear memories of 2002 and vivid memories of 2003. I do have a very vague memory from Late 2000, but I generally don't consider it when discussing which Early 2000s years I can remember. 

2000 is still vague and blurry. 2001 is the first year I can remember well in my life including events in order but it's still not 100% clear and the last year of my early childhood. 2002 & 2003 are crystal clear to me like yesterday and I remember a lot of pop cultural stuff throughout those two years, and I participated in a lot of fun stuff throughout that time.

Pretty well, though I remember the mid and late 00s just a bit more sharply.


Same here.


To be honest, I think people born in 2000 are the last to have any memories of the Early 2000s. A friend of mine born in May 2000 told me once that he can vaguely remember 2002. I have also read comments from online people born in 2000, saying that they can at least remember 2003.

As for myself, I can vaguely remember 2001, but I have clear memories of 2002 and vivid memories of 2003. I do have a very vague memory from Late 2000, but I generally don't consider it when discussing which Early 2000s years I can remember. 


I also agree that 2000 babies could remember the early 2000s as well. However, it does feel vague for late 2000s babies.

I was born in January 1999, and I remember the early '00s a bit. I don't think I remember any of 2000, but I might be wrong, because I thought I had no vivid memories of 2001, and thought a trip I took was in 2004 or 05, but found out recently it was actually in 2001 when I was 2 years old.

I have a good amount of memories from the early 2000's, but a lot are vague in a way such as a memory of me watching Samurai Jack in some room (I'm guessing a hotel), also, every memory you think back to, you modify it at least slightly, it's been proven by scientists who researched it. I played an Xbox game sometime in 2002 called Blinx: The Time Sweeper and played it for the first time since then last year, and while some things were the same as I remembered, there were a lot of things that weren't like I remembered.

I didn't really remember a year well until 2004, I'll say, because while I have a lot of memories from the early 2000's, I don't know when some of these memories were then, like the specific year, and most are a bit vague or random. The mid and late 2000's I remember very well, because those were my public school years, I got homeschooled in 2010.

I was born in January 1999, and I remember the early '00s a bit. I don't think I remember any of 2000, but I might be wrong, because I thought I had no vivid memories of 2001, and thought a trip I took was in 2004 or 05, but found out recently it was actually in 2001 when I was 2 years old.

I have a good amount of memories from the early 2000's, but a lot are vague in a way such as a memory of me watching Samurai Jack in some room (I'm guessing a hotel), also, every memory you think back to, you modify it at least slightly, it's been proved by scientists who researched it. I played an Xbox game sometime in 2002 called Blinx: The Time Sweeper and played it for the first time since then last year, and while some things were the same as I remembered, there were a lot of things that weren't like I remembered.

I didn't really remember a year well until 2004, I'll say, because while I have a lot of memories from the early 2000's, I don't know when some of these memories were then, like the specific year, and most are a bit vague or random. The mid and late 2000's I remember very well, because those were my public school years, I got homeschooled in 2010.


The 2002-03 and 2003-04 school years were my preschool years, but I vaguely remember them regardless where I was at. They became more vivid when I went to elementary school.

I was born in January 1999, and I remember the early '00s a bit. I don't think I remember any of 2000, but I might be wrong, because I thought I had no vivid memories of 2001, and thought a trip I took was in 2004 or 05, but found out recently it was actually in 2001 when I was 2 years old.

I have a good amount of memories from the early 2000's, but a lot are vague in a way such as a memory of me watching Samurai Jack in some room (I'm guessing a hotel), also, every memory you think back to, you modify it at least slightly, it's been proved by scientists who researched it. I played an Xbox game sometime in 2002 called Blinx: The Time Sweeper and played it for the first time since then last year, and while some things were the same as I remembered, there were a lot of things that weren't like I remembered.

I didn't really remember a year well until 2004, I'll say, because while I have a lot of memories from the early 2000's, I don't know when some of these memories were then, like the specific year, and most are a bit vague or random. The mid and late 2000's I remember very well, because those were my public school years, I got homeschooled in 2010.


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I loved playing Blinx back in 2002. Underrated game in my opinion.

Just had some sudden nostalgia there
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I loved playing Blinx back in 2002. Underrated game in my opinion.


Blinx is great, I haven't beaten it yet, but I'm planning on it :)


The 2002-03 and 2003-04 school years were my preschool years, but I vaguely remember them regardless where I was at. They became more vivid when I went to elementary school.


I didn't start school until Kindergarten in 2005 (was put in late at age 6 and turned 7 in Kindergarten), but I did a lot of school work in 2004 that my mom got.

I didn't start school until Kindergarten in 2005 (was put in late at age 6 and turned 7 in Kindergarten), but I did a lot of school work in 2004 that my mom got.


I didn't know that you could actually do that in any state.

I remember them very well. Not just the childhood related fads, but even in general. I recall 9/11, the 2000 election, Aaliyah's death :\'(, and I think the USS Cole bombing. Hell, I even remember the fashion being worn due to TV shows, music videos etc. It's amazing how this time period is about 15 years ago, or over that range. :o. It still seems like it was yesterday.

On top on that, I was also entering puberty at that time, and was beginning to age out of the children demographic which led me to watch more mature things. ;D

Just had some sudden nostalgia there
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I loved playing Blinx back in 2002. Underrated game in my opinion.

Whoa, I remember that game!

I was in my 20s during the decade so I remember it well. :)

The same with me. O0

For me, I was primarily concentrating on academics, being an undergrad college student until the late 00s. I did have other things going on in my life as well. :)

In 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003, I was 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13 so its a no brainer for me. It even makes me depressed now with how far we're from that era.

In 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003, I was 9, 10, 11, 12 and 13 so its a no brainer for me. It even makes me depressed now with how far we're from that era.


And later, we'll might be farther away from the mid 2000s as well.

I was born in March of 96' and I vaguely remember 2000

But my memories from Late 2000 onwards are crystal clear. So I vividly remember the Late 2000-2003 period easily. The fashions, fads, music, cartoons, tech, TV shows, Many 80's-90's cars still on the road, etc.

I still can't handle the fact that while the early '00s can be remember by all of us (whether it's the whole era or just 1 year) there are MANY young people who can't remember the era. And I'm not talking about kids. I'm talking about the teenagers. You'd go on an early 00's youtube video and you'd see comments like "I was born in 2001 or 2004". 16-17 year olds in 11th and 12th grade that have memories from the 2nd half of the '00s and the first half of the '10s, but not the 1st half of the '00s or before.

I still can't handle the fact that while the early '00s can be remember by all of us (whether it's the whole era or just 1 year) there are MANY young people who can't remember the era. And I'm not talking about kids. I'm talking about the teenagers. You'd go on an early 00's youtube video and you'd see comments like "I was born in 2001 or 2004". 16-17 year olds in 11th and 12th grade that have memories from the 2nd half of the '00s and the first half of the '10s, but not the 1st half of the '00s or before.


I have vague memories of the early 2000s, and I tried to do the same around 2015 (before I joined this site). However, it was more towards the mid and late 2000s. But to be fair, most of the shows that I watched when I was 3-7 premiered during the early 2000s.

I was born in August of 1992 and my sense of memory became consistent in autumn 1996, so I remember the early 2000s perfectly.

Does 2003 count as the early 2000s to the OP (original poster)?


Honestly, I've always believed that 2003 "feels" like an early '00s year, but I decided to just stick to the literal definition of 2000-2002 in order to avoid any heated debates. ;)


To be honest, I think people born in 2000 are the last to have any memories of the Early 2000s. A friend of mine born in May 2000 told me once that he can vaguely remember 2002. I have also read comments from online people born in 2000, saying that they can at least remember 2003.

As for myself, I can vaguely remember 2001, but I have clear memories of 2002 and vivid memories of 2003. I do have a very vague memory from Late 2000, but I generally don't consider it when discussing which Early 2000s years I can remember.


That's a fair point. I went with age 3 as the cut-off for having your earliest lasting memories, but I do know that 2-year-old memories can happen. I myself have some memories that I think might be from 1989, so it's certainly possible that a 2000 born kid might remember a few things from 2002 or 2003.

Honestly, I've always believed that 2003 "feels" like an early '00s year, but I decided to just stick to the literal definition of 2000-2002 in order to avoid any heated debates. ;)


I never really heard a lot of debates about whether 2003 is an early or mid 2000s year. They always see it as an early 2000s year.


That's a fair point. I went with age 3 as the cut-off for having your earliest lasting memories, but I do know that 2-year-old memories can happen. I myself have some memories that I think might be from 1989, so it's certainly possible that a 2000 born kid might remember a few things from 2002 or 2003.


My first memories happened when I was about two years old, so two or three seems accurate.

That's a fair point. I went with age 3 as the cut-off for having your earliest lasting memories, but I do know that 2-year-old memories can happen. I myself have some memories that I think might be from 1989, so it's certainly possible that a 2000 born kid might remember a few things from 2002 or 2003.


Wow me too! I've actually seen some other '87 borns (especially early '87) beside you and me that have "borderline" 1989 memories like this too. I also most likely have some very vague memories that are from 1989. Mainly the first house I remember, I know we moved out in 1989 and I'm almost positive of the cloudy early memories I have of it.

I still can't handle the fact that while the early '00s can be remember by all of us (whether it's the whole era or just 1 year) there are MANY young people who can't remember the era. And I'm not talking about kids. I'm talking about the teenagers. You'd go on an early 00's youtube video and you'd see comments like "I was born in 2001 or 2004". 16-17 year olds in 11th and 12th grade that have memories from the 2nd half of the '00s and the first half of the '10s, but not the 1st half of the '00s or before.


As strange as it sounds, I find it hard to believe as well. My memories of 2003 are vivid enough for me to truly remember what the year was like, so to hear that some of today's adolescents were only just being born when Meteora by Linkin Park was released, makes it truly hard to comprehend. For instance, I can remember when songs such as "Numb", "Bring Me to Life", "Hey Ya" and "Rock Your Body" were brand new. Not only that, but it makes me feel old when I realise that some of them were only in their early childhoods in the Mid 2000s! :P


I also agree that 2000 babies could remember the early 2000s as well. However, it does feel vague for late 2000s babies.


I agree with you. I have a cousin who was born in Late 2000, but I think it's very unlikely that he would be able to remember much from the Early 2000s, seeing as though he only turned 3 in December 2003.

I think I have one memory from 1995 (when I was two). I was in some sort of daycare, and it involves diapers, and that's all I'll say. ;D It could be 1996, but I doubt it since I was in preschool by 1995-96 school year and I had to be potty trained for that. Anyway, I don't think that counts as "remembering the mid '90s" haha ;D

I remember it very well. All the hype over the new millennium (if we only knew what was coming). We had the dot com bust (first sign the '90s were over), then obviously the huge tragedy of 9/11. At least in the aftermath of September 11th there was some national unity, and Bush despite what a lot of people say was a relatively reasonable man (at least compared to the current occupant of the White House). The early '00s was bad in certain ways definitely, but it wasn't as negative of an environment as you have today. The funny thing is on paper today isn't bad (stock market is way up, unemployment way down, we're not involved in a major war, way less uninsured people, etc.), but the partisan divide is worse. Americans are split in two very opposed ideological camps that very much hate each other. Even during the Bush years there was still this hope among the left in "America" in general but these days you don't see that. Honestly nobody's innocent in this partisan ugliness and partially I think the far left is somewhat to blame for Trump, they pushed too hard for the "progressive" agenda in a still pretty conservative country and they helped stir up the anger that led to Trump. The far right is also guilty of fear mongering of the "other" and after a black president, this really showed it's face with the "birther" stuff. Now they are scapegoating illegal immigrants for everything. We can compromise on immigration, allow some kind of residency (not citizenship) for law abiding undocumented immigrants already here with strong family ties to the US, while tightening the borders and continuing to deport criminal aliens. Deporting mothers with young children (one of the stories I've heard recently) is NOT something I would support for example. There needs to be compromise or America won't survive.

I think I have one memory from 1995 (when I was two). I was in some sort of daycare, and it involves diapers, and that's all I'll say. ;D It could be 1996, but I doubt it since I was in preschool by 1995-96 school year and I had to be potty trained for that. Anyway, I don't think that counts as "remembering the mid '90s" haha ;D


I sometimes had memories in my early childhood that involved diapers. So... you're not alone. Just saying.  :-[

I remember them very well, as clear as day. I was born 1995 and I have very fond memories of the early 00s. Very clear memories of the year 2000 as well. Now there is no doubt the early 00s were a long time ago (17 years now), but I think some people exaggerate the amount changes and how different the culture was. It was different, but a lot of people seem to stretch the truth. The biggest difference was technology. We didn't have smartphones and social networking sites. Generally there was only one cell phone per family (if even that, many didn't have cell phones at all), my father owned one and it was just a tiny little phone with a green screen for making phone calls, that's pretty much all you can get at the time for the majority of people. Flip Phones weren't popularized until the mid 00s. Anyways the rest of us had to rely on landlines, which we did. I remember making two-way calls with my friends, and I thought that was a lot of fun. Families had only one computer in the house that everyone had to share. I remember going on there to play some games built in with Windows 2000 and XP and search some of my favourite kids sites. TV was actually in (No YouTube of course) and none of the PVR and UIs we have now so the TV remote was literally just used for turning the TV on, adjusting the volume, and switching the channel. And no flatscreens, all TVs at the time were big old-fashioned CRT boxes. Same as the computer monitors. Laptops were big and chunky. VCRs were still in, I didn't get a DVD player until 2003. The pop culture of the time was great as well! Huge Pokemon fad in 2000. The early 00s was about that laid back feel, especially 2000. The war on terror around 2002 shook things up a bit. Fashion was different but not as different as the 80s vs. 00s, same as general attitudes, movie themes, music content, etc. It's these little things that have not changed much since the early 2000s. Even some aspects of technology from the early 00s we have to today like the digital movement and stuff like that. But yeah overall the biggest change from now and the early 00s is technology and you can definitely notice that.

You know I can't believe back in 2002, 1987 was 15 years ago. While in 2017, 2002 is 15 years ago. It's one of those weird feelings like you've actually lived through the 1980s because the period of time is the same now. Pretty crazy! And to think in 2020, the year 2000 will be 20 years old.  :o

I never really heard a lot of debates about whether 2003 is an early or mid 2000s year. They always see it as an early 2000s year.

2003 is a mid 2000s year culturally. But numerically it is both early 00s and mid 00s. After June 2003 (or around that time) it is mid 2000s.

That's a fair point. I went with age 3 as the cut-off for having your earliest lasting memories, but I do know that 2-year-old memories can happen. I myself have some memories that I think might be from 1989, so it's certainly possible that a 2000 born kid might remember a few things from 2002 or 2003.

I've had my first memories when I was 2 so from 1997. But these memories are so vague and I just remember some particular moments and memories from when I was 2 and 3. The first age of when I can clearly remember events in my life and memories that aren't as vague and when my clear memory began was when I was 4 in 1999.

2003 is a mid 2000s year culturally. But numerically it is both early 00s and mid 00s. After June 2003 (or around that time) it is mid 2000s.


Nah 2003 in its entirety is early 2000's culturally. I know it may seem a bit convenient but I think the mid 2000's didn't culturally begin until 2004 when The Iraq War was starting to receive backlash, when Web 1.0 was transitioning to Web 2.0, when the iPod and iTunes started to become popular, and when Millennium/90's era television shows like Friends, Frasier, Angel, Rugrats, and Hey Arnold began to end, among other examples. All of these things were at their end during the 2003-2004 school year, hence why the mid 2000's culture wouldn't truly begin until around then. 2003 is firmly early 2000's.



I've had my first memories when I was 2 so from 1997. But these memories are so vague and I just remember some particular moments and memories from when I was 2 and 3. The first age of when I can clearly remember events in my life and memories that aren't as vague and when my clear memory began was when I was 4 in 1999.


Honestly most of my memories from when I was 2, 3, 4 years old are pretty vague. I didn't start to develop clear memories until I was around 4 and a half years old, so circa Late 2000. By the time I was 5/6, my memories were crystal clear

2003 is firmly early 2000's.


It definitely isn't firmly early 2000s. I would accept it was a transitional year, but more mid 00s than early 00s culturally. And the main reason is because the vibe in 2003 felt quite different from 2002. A lot of the mid 00s stuff was already starting in 2003 including the release of the first social media site, MySpace, music changing slightly and flip phones becoming more popular. I remember I first heard of pirating music software in 2003 as well and got my first DVD player in 2003. It just had an overall different vibe which is why I would place 2003 with the mid 00s culturally speaking. But numerically it was mid 00s for the second half, early for the first half.

Nah 2003 in its entirety is early 2000's culturally. I know it may seem a bit convenient but I think the mid 2000's didn't culturally begin until 2004 when The Iraq War was starting to receive backlash, when Web 1.0 was transitioning to Web 2.0, when the iPod and iTunes started to become popular, and when Millennium/90's era television shows like Friends, Frasier, Angel, Rugrats, and Hey Arnold began to end, among other examples. All of these things were at their end during the 2003-2004 school year, hence why the mid 2000's culture wouldn't truly begin until around then. 2003 is firmly early 2000's.


Honestly most of my memories from when I was 2, 3, 4 years old are pretty vague. I didn't start to develop clear memories until I was around 4 and a half years old, so circa Late 2000. By the time I was 5/6, my memories were crystal clear


I can see 2003 as a transitional year, but definitely not "entirely" or "firmly" early 00s. Crunk (imo the quintessential 00s musical genre) became mainstream with Get Low reaching #1 on the charts. 50 Cent also blew up that year. Millennium era bubble gum pop was dead by 03. It was the beginning of rap's era of dominance that lasted until around 07/08.

Back to the original topic, as an 87er, the early 00s (and to a lesser extent the late 90s) was the earliest time where I felt like part of the "mainstream demographic." So I remember it very well, maybe even better than more recent years (the popular culture, at least). From a purely pop culture standpoint, they were probably the most formative years of my life.

I remember it very well. All the hype over the new millennium (if we only knew what was coming). We had the dot com bust (first sign the '90s were over), then obviously the huge tragedy of 9/11. At least in the aftermath of September 11th there was some national unity, and Bush despite what a lot of people say was a relatively reasonable man (at least compared to the current occupant of the White House). The early '00s was bad in certain ways definitely, but it wasn't as negative of an environment as you have today. The funny thing is on paper today isn't bad (stock market is way up, unemployment way down, we're not involved in a major war, way less uninsured people, etc.), but the partisan divide is worse. Americans are split in two very opposed ideological camps that very much hate each other. Even during the Bush years there was still this hope among the left in "America" in general but these days you don't see that. Honestly nobody's innocent in this partisan ugliness and partially I think the far left is somewhat to blame for Trump, they pushed too hard for the "progressive" agenda in a still pretty conservative country and they helped stir up the anger that led to Trump. The far right is also guilty of fear mongering of the "other" and after a black president, this really showed it's face with the "birther" stuff. Now they are scapegoating illegal immigrants for everything. We can compromise on immigration, allow some kind of residency (not citizenship) for law abiding undocumented immigrants already here with strong family ties to the US, while tightening the borders and continuing to deport criminal aliens. Deporting mothers with young children (one of the stories I've heard recently) is NOT something I would support for example. There needs to be compromise or America won't survive.


I don't even think America would survive endearly with Trump as president. If only we just had different candidates during last year's election, then people wouldn't freak out so much.

I can see 2003 as a transitional year, but definitely not "entirely" or "firmly" early 00s. Crunk (imo the quintessential 00s musical genre) became mainstream with Get Low reaching #1 on the charts. 50 Cent also blew up that year. Millennium era bubble gum pop was dead by 03. It was the beginning of rap's era of dominance that lasted until around 07/08.

Back to the original topic, as an 87er, the early 00s (and to a lesser extent the late 90s) was the earliest time where I felt like part of the "mainstream demographic." So I remember it very well, maybe even better than more recent years (the popular culture, at least). From a purely pop culture standpoint, they were probably the most formative years of my life.


I always consider early & mid 2003 to be early 2000's, but late 2003 was when the core 2000's began but at the same time late 2003 was the early to mid 2000's transition. I look at many pictures from early & mid 2003 and for most of the part it still felt like 2002. It's just that celebrities and artists started doing mid 2000's fashion trends throughout 2003, while average people didn't start doing mid 2000's fashion trends until late 2003 or 2004.

I can see 2003 as a transitional year, but definitely not "entirely" or "firmly" early 00s. Crunk (imo the quintessential 00s musical genre) became mainstream with Get Low reaching #1 on the charts. 50 Cent also blew up that year. Millennium era bubble gum pop was dead by 03. It was the beginning of rap's era of dominance that lasted until around 07/08.

Back to the original topic, as an 87er, the early 00s (and to a lesser extent the late 90s) was the earliest time where I felt like part of the "mainstream demographic." So I remember it very well, maybe even better than more recent years (the popular culture, at least). From a purely pop culture standpoint, they were probably the most formative years of my life.


It definitely isn't firmly early 2000s. I would accept it was a transitional year, but more mid 00s than early 00s culturally. And the main reason is because the vibe in 2003 felt quite different from 2002. A lot of the mid 00s stuff was already starting in 2003 including the release of the first social media site, MySpace, music changing slightly and flip phones becoming more popular. I remember I first heard of pirating music software in 2003 as well and got my first DVD player in 2003. It just had an overall different vibe which is why I would place 2003 with the mid 00s culturally speaking. But numerically it was mid 00s for the second half, early for the first half.


Those are good examples, but that didn't mean that 2003 was necessarily transitioning into the mid 2000's. I can accept 2003 being a 'core' 2000's year (similar to most years from the decade from 2003-2008), aka when 2000's culture was now the norm. But from a chronological 'early', 'mid', 'late' system 2003 is still early 2000's. I agree that it wasn't as strongly early 2000's as say the 2000-2002 period, but thats only because 2003 was also more 'core' 2000's while the 2000-2002 period was part of a much larger 'Millennium' period (when 90's or 00's culture wasn't as clearly distinct) from roughly 1998-2002.

Despite the release of myspace most people haven't heard of it (let alone much social media) during that year. It was still firmly within the Web 1.0 era of the internet, despite broadband becoming much more common that year (my family also upgraded that year along with installing XP), most people still used dial up. If you look at this graph you'll notice that Broadband service didn't officially overtake dial up service until around the Summer of 2004. Other technological trends that made 2003 'early' included CRTs still being the dominant way to watch TV, the iPod and other mp3s still being seen as expensive luxuries (you'll notice that the iPod didn't start to receive mass acceptance until 2004) with CD players still being the dominant way to listen to music portably, the last full year for Nintendo's GameBoy line of handhelds (2004 for most of its year was in the GB era as well, but Late 2004 brought upon the launch of the Nintendo DS, launching the 'DS' Era of handhelds), most people still using standard cameras over digital, most cell phones were just bricks with antennas on top, amongst other trends.

https://www.benton.org/sites/benton.org/files/images/ip-transition-broadband-vs-dialup.png

Other examples to why 2003 was still early 2000's included the culture that dominated that year. From a fashion/fad standpoint baggy jeans, cargo pants, rugby jackets, frosted tips, chunky sneakers, and oversized jersies, for guys; Crop tops, aviator sunglasses, tube tops, jean jackets, camouflage pants, and platform shoes for girls. I could post pictures of the fashion from 2003 if you're interested:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2013-12/enhanced/webdr01/9/0/grid-cell-18834-1386565730-17.jpg

http://images.fashionnstyle.com/data/images/full/29465/2003.jpg?w=600

http://www.vandegriftvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2003.jpg

You could tell from the pictures that the fashion seem much more distinctly 'noughties' than the pictures from 2002 and before, but they still give off an early 2000's vibe such as the cargo pants, crop tops, metallic pants, baggy jeans, shorter hair, etc.

2003 from a film standpoint was like the 'last hurrah' when it came to early 2000's movies. It was the finale of the Lord of the Rings series with The Return of the King. It was also the finale of the Matrix series with Revolutions and Reloaded. You also cannot forget that this was the last year that Dreamworks, Disney's major rival, made a traditionally animated film which was Sinbad. 2003 was also the year of X2, Bad Boys 2, School of Rock, Finding Nemo, and of course the infamous Spy Kids 3  ;D(which was another finale of an early 2000's franchise).

2003 from a television standpoint is probably the easiest to point out. Iconic 90's or Millennium era TV shows either ended in 2003 or ended during the 2003-04' TV season. These shows included Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Dawson's Creek, Frasier, Friends, Angel, Sex and the City, Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Rocket Power, The Wild Thornberry's, Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, etc.. You also cannot forget that this was the tail end of the Wb's peak in popularity, as the channel started to take a downward spiral in the mid 2000's. In the kiddy side of things, 2003-04' was the last school years for Nick's Silver Age, CN's Powerhouse Era, and Toon Disney's Golden Age; This was the peak in quality for Early 2000's era Disney Channel though.

Musically trends that ended in 2003 included pop punk, Nu Metal, Late 90's era Post Grunge, etc. Many R&B/hip hop songs still had that Neptunes sound that just screams early 2000's. I'll list you a few songs from 2003 to help convey a clearer pictures:

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Finally current events that rocked 2003 were distinctly early 2000's from a Western standpoint. 2003 brought upon the controversial Iraq War, hence why I'm lenient in calling 2003 core 2000's because of this, but you have to remember that for most of 2003 and early most of the American public (unfortunately) supported it. This was due to the fear and propoganda the Bush administration instilled onto the American public due to us riding that post 9/11 patriotism wave. Anecdotal, but I vividly remember there still being a sense of cultural unity here in the U.S for much of 2003 because the stigma was that the government was trying to 'protect' us. I understand the mood and attitude was different from where you were in Canada, but here in the U.S we drank the Kool-Aid. To prove this I found this graphic showing Bush's approval rating for his entire 1st term:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/graphics/bushApproval_111705.gif

As you'll notice, Bush's approval rating was struggling during the initial months of his presidency, despite remaining relatively popular. That all changed on 9/11 when his approval shot up to the 90th percentile. From Late 2001 through Early 2003 his approval was firmly in the 60's-70's, however it shot up again during the invasion of Iraq in March of 2003 to the late 70's. It stayed relatively high for much of 2003 and early 2004 within the 50's-60's until April of 2004 when his approval rating had its first negative percentile rate of his presidency. Throughout the rest of his 1st term he stayed within the 40's-50's utpo his re-inauguration in 2005. From 2005 onwards his approval rating began to become much more bleak.

Other events from 2003 that put it safely in the early 2000's category included the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, The completion of the Human Genome project, The Summer 2003 Northeast Blackout, The Last Commercial flight of Concorde, etc.


All in all I think its safe to say that 2003 was early 2000's. Perhaps early 2000's 'lite' due to major core 2000's and mid 2000's trends getting big around that time, but still safely early 2000's for the most part.

Evanescence still had its feel and atmosphere after 2003, especially when they released The Open Door in 2006.

Evanescence still had its feel and atmosphere after 2003, especially when they released The Open Door in 2006.


True but their first album Fallen had a more Nu Metal sound while their album The Open Door was just standard Alternative

True but their first album Fallen had a more Nu Metal sound while their album The Open Door was just standard Alternative


Technically, both of them are alternative (and gothic) rock albums.

Those are good examples, but that didn't mean that 2003 was necessarily transitioning into the mid 2000's. I can accept 2003 being a 'core' 2000's year (similar to most years from the decade from 2003-2008), aka when 2000's culture was now the norm. But from a chronological 'early', 'mid', 'late' system 2003 is still early 2000's. I agree that it wasn't as strongly early 2000's as say the 2000-2002 period, but thats only because 2003 was also more 'core' 2000's while the 2000-2002 period was part of a much larger 'Millennium' period (when 90's or 00's culture wasn't as clearly distinct) from roughly 1998-2002.

Despite the release of myspace most people haven't heard of it (let alone much social media) during that year. It was still firmly within the Web 1.0 era of the internet, despite broadband becoming much more common that year (my family also upgraded that year along with installing XP), most people still used dial up. If you look at this graph you'll notice that Broadband service didn't officially overtake dial up service until around the Summer of 2004. Other technological trends that made 2003 'early' included CRTs still being the dominant way to watch TV, the iPod and other mp3s still being seen as expensive luxuries (you'll notice that the iPod didn't start to receive mass acceptance until 2004) with CD players still being the dominant way to listen to music portably, the last full year for Nintendo's GameBoy line of handhelds (2004 for most of its year was in the GB era as well, but Late 2004 brought upon the launch of the Nintendo DS, launching the 'DS' Era of handhelds), most people still using standard cameras over digital, most cell phones were just bricks with antennas on top, amongst other trends.

https://www.benton.org/sites/benton.org/files/images/ip-transition-broadband-vs-dialup.png

Other examples to why 2003 was still early 2000's included the culture that dominated that year. From a fashion/fad standpoint baggy jeans, cargo pants, rugby jackets, frosted tips, chunky sneakers, and oversized jersies, for guys; Crop tops, aviator sunglasses, tube tops, jean jackets, camouflage pants, and platform shoes for girls. I could post pictures of the fashion from 2003 if you're interested:

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2013-12/enhanced/webdr01/9/0/grid-cell-18834-1386565730-17.jpg

http://images.fashionnstyle.com/data/images/full/29465/2003.jpg?w=600

http://www.vandegriftvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2003.jpg

You could tell from the pictures that the fashion seem much more distinctly 'noughties' than the pictures from 2002 and before, but they still give off an early 2000's vibe such as the cargo pants, crop tops, metallic pants, baggy jeans, shorter hair, etc.

2003 from a film standpoint was like the 'last hurrah' when it came to early 2000's movies. It was the finale of the Lord of the Rings series with The Return of the King. It was also the finale of the Matrix series with Revolutions and Reloaded. You also cannot forget that this was the last year that Dreamworks, Disney's major rival, made a traditionally animated film which was Sinbad. 2003 was also the year of X2, Bad Boys 2, School of Rock, Finding Nemo, and of course the infamous Spy Kids 3  ;D(which was another finale of an early 2000's franchise).

2003 from a television standpoint is probably the easiest to point out. Iconic 90's or Millennium era TV shows either ended in 2003 or ended during the 2003-04' TV season. These shows included Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Dawson's Creek, Frasier, Friends, Angel, Sex and the City, Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, Hey Arnold, Rugrats, Rocket Power, The Wild Thornberry's, Dexter's Lab, Johnny Bravo, etc.. You also cannot forget that this was the tail end of the Wb's peak in popularity, as the channel started to take a downward spiral in the mid 2000's. In the kiddy side of things, 2003-04' was the last school years for Nick's Silver Age, CN's Powerhouse Era, and Toon Disney's Golden Age; This was the peak in quality for Early 2000's era Disney Channel though.

Musically trends that ended in 2003 included pop punk, Nu Metal, Late 90's era Post Grunge, etc. Many R&B/hip hop songs still had that Neptunes sound that just screams early 2000's. I'll list you a few songs from 2003 to help convey a clearer pictures:

Finally current events that rocked 2003 were distinctly early 2000's from a Western standpoint. 2003 brought upon the controversial Iraq War, hence why I'm lenient in calling 2003 core 2000's because of this, but you have to remember that for most of 2003 and early most of the American public (unfortunately) supported it. This was due to the fear and propoganda the Bush administration instilled onto the American public due to us riding that post 9/11 patriotism wave. Anecdotal, but I vividly remember there still being a sense of cultural unity here in the U.S for much of 2003 because the stigma was that the government was trying to 'protect' us. I understand the mood and attitude was different from where you were in Canada, but here in the U.S we drank the Kool-Aid. To prove this I found this graphic showing Bush's approval rating for his entire 1st term:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/graphics/bushApproval_111705.gif

As you'll notice, Bush's approval rating was struggling during the initial months of his presidency, despite remaining relatively popular. That all changed on 9/11 when his approval shot up to the 90th percentile. From Late 2001 through Early 2003 his approval was firmly in the 60's-70's, however it shot up again during the invasion of Iraq in March of 2003 to the late 70's. It stayed relatively high for much of 2003 and early 2004 within the 50's-60's until April of 2004 when his approval rating had its first negative percentile rate of his presidency. Throughout the rest of his 1st term he stayed within the 40's-50's utpo his re-inauguration in 2005. From 2005 onwards his approval rating began to become much more bleak.

Other events from 2003 that put it safely in the early 2000's category included the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, The completion of the Human Genome project, The Summer 2003 Northeast Blackout, The Last Commercial flight of Concorde, etc.


All in all I think its safe to say that 2003 was early 2000's. Perhaps early 2000's 'lite' due to major core 2000's and mid 2000's trends getting big around that time, but still safely early 2000's for the most part.


Wow, that's an excellent summary of 2003! As somebody who was in high school at the time, I would say that you just about summed up '03 perfectly. 8)

I don't really have much to add, as you covered things pretty concisely. I will just add a bit to what you were saying about iPods/MP3 players. Even though the iTunes Store did debut in 2003, I remember hearing about it only in passing at the time. The 2003-04 school year is the last one where I would say that basically 100% of my classmates were still bringing CD players to school with them. I first started seeing iPods pop up in 2004-05, and by the time I graduated in Spring '05 I'd estimate that probably 35% of my classmates had one.

Looking back on it, I distinctly remember this ad campaign from 2004 being the point when the iPod really "arrived" and became a must have item. Anybody else remember this iconic ad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oLCO3EEkaI

Well I still think 2003 belongs with mid 00s culturally, I guess that's just me.

Well I still think 2003 belongs with mid 00s culturally, I guess that's just me.
Maybe the early 00s were different in Canada compared to here, but I agree with ZeldaFan's chart. That's how 2003 was in the U.S.

I definitely have memories from 2000-2002 (I was born in 1996), but the more vivid memories are from 2003 onwards. I was living in the UK at the time, so I felt more keenly the anti-war atmosphere. Back then I hated George W. Bush, growing up in a more liberal environment, but now I like him. :P

Also ZeldaFan20. 2003-2007* are the core 2000's years, with 2003 being the beginning of it that's still early 2000's culturally and 2007 being the end of it that's late 2000's culturally. 2004-2006, the peak of core 2000's culture are firmly mid 2000's years culturally.

Also ZeldaFan20. 2003-2007* are the core 2000's years, with 2003 being the beginning of it that's still early 2000's culturally and 2007 being the end of it that's late 2000's culturally. 2004-2006, the peak of core 2000's culture are firmly mid 2000's years culturally.


It's sort of debatable that 2008 is a core 2000s year. The first half of 2008 is related to 2007, while the second half relates more with 2009. So it's more likely as a transitional year between the mid and late 2000s.

It's sort of debatable that 2008 is a core 2000s year. The first half of 2008 is related to 2007, while the second half relates more with 2009. So it's more likely as a transitional year between the mid and late 2000s.

I agree, 2008 was transitional but I wouldn't include it as a core or mid 2000s year. 2007 would be the last year for that.

It's sort of debatable that 2008 is a core 2000s year. The first half of 2008 is related to 2007, while the second half relates more with 2009. So it's more likely as a transitional year between the mid and late 2000s.


I remember Mid/Late 2008 felt like the start of a new era, so I would personally consider 2008 to be an overall Late 2000s year. However, you're right about the first half of 2008 relating more to 2007. In my opinion, it wasn't until the release of Lady Gaga's Just Dance and Poker Face , as well as Barack Obama's election, that things really started to change. It definitely was a transitional year.

I agree, 2008 was transitional but I wouldn't include it as a core or mid 2000s year. 2007 would be the last year for that.


Yeah. 2008-2011 (in my opinion at least) was like the electropop era. Much like how 1998-2001 is the Y2K era, but it was kinda like the opposite politically.

1998-2001 (Y2K Era):
Dot-com bubble
Transition between Clinton's and Bush's presidency
AOL's rise
Britney Spears was very admirable towards people

2008-2011 (Electropop Era):
Global Recession
Transition between Bush's and Obama's presidency
Facebook's rise
Lady Gaga was very admirable towards people

I remember them very well, as clear as day. I was born 1995 and I have very fond memories of the early 00s. Very clear memories of the year 2000 as well. Now there is no doubt the early 00s were a long time ago (17 years now), but I think some people exaggerate the amount changes and how different the culture was. It was different, but a lot of people seem to stretch the truth. The biggest difference was technology. We didn't have smartphones and social networking sites. Generally there was only one cell phone per family (if even that, many didn't have cell phones at all), my father owned one and it was just a tiny little phone with a green screen for making phone calls, that's pretty much all you can get at the time for the majority of people. Flip Phones weren't popularized until the mid 00s. Anyways the rest of us had to rely on landlines, which we did. I remember making two-way calls with my friends, and I thought that was a lot of fun. Families had only one computer in the house that everyone had to share. I remember going on there to play some games built in with Windows 2000 and XP and search some of my favourite kids sites. TV was actually in (No YouTube of course) and none of the PVR and UIs we have now so the TV remote was literally just used for turning the TV on, adjusting the volume, and switching the channel. And no flatscreens, all TVs at the time were big old-fashioned CRT boxes. Same as the computer monitors. Laptops were big and chunky. VCRs were still in, I didn't get a DVD player until 2003. The pop culture of the time was great as well! Huge Pokemon fad in 2000. The early 00s was about that laid back feel, especially 2000. The war on terror around 2002 shook things up a bit. Fashion was different but not as different as the 80s vs. 00s, same as general attitudes, movie themes, music content, etc. It's these little things that have not changed much since the early 2000s. Even some aspects of technology from the early 00s we have to today like the digital movement and stuff like that. But yeah overall the biggest change from now and the early 00s is technology and you can definitely notice that.

You know I can't believe back in 2002, 1987 was 15 years ago. While in 2017, 2002 is 15 years ago. It's one of those weird feelings like you've actually lived through the 1980s because the period of time is the same now. Pretty crazy! And to think in 2020, the year 2000 will be 20 years old.  :o


This post is really nostalgic, I can relate to a lot of it :D

I remember Mid/Late 2008 felt like the start of a new era, so I would personally consider 2008 to be an overall Late 2000s year. However, you're right about the first half of 2008 relating more to 2007. In my opinion, it wasn't until the release of Lady Gaga's Just Dance and Poker Face , as well as Barack Obama's election, that things really started to change. It definitely was a transitional year.

Yeah but you even saw  hints of changes in early 2008 too (and late 2007 because some songs were released in late 2007 and got popular in 08') then the huge change happened throughout the year and we were officially in a new era once Obama got elected in late 2008.

This post is really nostalgic, I can relate to a lot of it :D

Thanks yeah the early 00s were one of the most nostalgic times in my life.

This post is really nostalgic, I can relate to a lot of it :D


The beginning of the What was life like as a kid in the early 2000s thread is like that. I love it. This is why I wish threads like these stayed pure nostalgic bombs instead of having other eras brought up within the topic.

I definitely have memories from 2000-2002 (I was born in 1996), but the more vivid memories are from 2003 onwards. I was living in the UK at the time, so I felt more keenly the anti-war atmosphere. Back then I hated George W. Bush, growing up in a more liberal environment, but now I like him. :P


Haha yes, I remember the Iraq War too and my experience with it was much different from most Americans and probably similar to yours. I grew up in practically the most socialist/left-wing city in all of Canada, Hamilton (I guess the British equivalent would be Liverpool). I remember in late 2002, my teacher who was very anti-war forced us to watch the congressional hearings and hear Bush's speech on WMDs and "nukyular bombs". My teacher kept shouting "Lies, lies, lies!" throughout the entire thing. It was super boring, I fell asleep. ;D In early 2003 when Chrétien said he wouldn't join the Iraq War but would send peacekeeping troops instead, patriotism shot to new heights. Canada had its super patriotic phase in the mid-2000s but it was a strange "we're not the US"/anti-American kind of negative patriotism. I remember the kids jumping up and down and being super happy because we weren't going to go war anymore. The Iraq War was a sort of "end of childhood" event for me. Just seeing all those dead people and destroyed buildings and bombs going off woke me up to the harsh realities of the world. The Afghanistan War back then was pretty bad too. I remember there was some huge terrorist attack in Morocco that year on some Belgian tourists and a terrorist attack in Istanbul that killed scores of people. I thought the world was going to hell in a hell basket :o Thankfully I had those Funnyjunk videos and Iraq War memes to give me good laughs. "Time to bomb Saddam" makes me super nostalgic ;D

In late 2003 Canada started taking in Iraqi refugees and some settled in my town. I remember a Kurdish girl at my school who really hated Saddam and she was very pro-war, so that softened my position a bit. Not long after that, Saddam was captured and when I saw him crawl out that hole and they gave a tour of that bunker it gave me nightmares for weeks LOL. Saddam looked like some evil super villain, I wanted him dead ASAP ;D So yeah I was ready to admit I was wrong and maybe the War wasn't such a bad thing. But then the war kept dragging on and on and on...

In early 2004 an Iraqi Christian family moved nearby and they were very anti-war and more nuanced on Saddam, so that flung me back to a hardline anti-war position. I quickly became friends with them (still am), I was the third or fourth fastest biker in the south neighbourhoods (out of like 60 or 70 kids) but he and his brother came along and kicked me down two notches LOL. I remember the Madrid bombings that year and I was just about done with hearing about Bush and the War. I moved to Toronto in mid 2004 and while it was way more diverse there weren't any Iraqi refugees there, so there was no diversity of opinions. Everyone was super anti-war and anti-Bush, and very anti-America to boot (there were some American kids at my school they got picked on A LOT). You could feel the 2004 campaign starting. There was a group of Kuwaiti kids, and they were pro-war and pro-Bush to the point of being hateful. They literally wanted all Iraqis and the country dead (and that was before I heard of the 1991 Gulf War). That's middle school for ya. Anyway, that made feel like if you were a Bush supporter, you had to be evil or twisted in some way. I followed the 2004 campaign generally, but not at all intensively and no polls, so on election night when Bush got elected I was absolutely shocked. I thought he'd definitely lose, the Internet memes convinced me he was so dumb no one could possibly vote for him. My grandma had a massive meltdown, she was sure the world was going to hell. The next day at school was pretty bad. People kept asking like questions "Why are Americans evil?", "Why do Americans like war?", "Why do Americans only think about themselves?" etc. The anti-Americanism was strong and alive and throughout the 2000s and Bush's daily shenanigans and Fox News antagonizing of anti-war countries and the "freedom fries" didn't do much to help. It didn't really subside until the 2007/08 Democratic primaries and 2008 election when Obama became a superstar for things to return back to normal. I wonder if with the new administration we'll go back to anti-American sentiment as strong as the 2000s. Right now, I'm sure Mexicans are angry AF, but he doesn't seem to have a truly global snafu like the Iraq War quite yet. I think most of the world is quite content to just laugh at him. ;D

All credit goes to to Jordan, Toon, UltraGameDog (for helping me archive this post), and I creating this chart last year. I had to revive it just to grab everybody's attention why 2003 was still part of early 2000's culture.

Let's see some 2003 things:
- Pop Punk albums like Foot in Mouth Disease, So Long Astoria, MFZB and Making the Grade (Y2K Era)
- Pop Punk albums like Take This to Your Grave, North and blink-182's self-titled (core 2000's)
- Green Day and My Chemical Romance head into the studio and start recording their 2000's defining albums (core 2000's)
- The filming of Mean Girls (core 2000's)
- 50 Cent and Lil Jon's breakthrough albums and the rise of Snap and Crunk rap (core 2000's)
- The fall of Nu Metal like Limp Bizkit (core 2000's)
- Nu Metal albums that sustained it's popularity like Meteora, Take a Look in the Mirror, Unstable and Faceless (Y2K era)
- Movies like School of Rock, American Wedding, Daredevil, Bruce Almighty, The Hulk and Return of the King (Y2K Era)
- Beginning of Myspace (core 2000's)
- In June 2003, DVD rentals overtake VHS (core 2000's)
- First year with no new N64 or Gameboy Color releases in NA (core 2000's)
- Second last year of PS1 new releases and last year of new Dreamcast releases (Y2K era)
- Notable Pop Punk labels such as Fat Wreck Chords abandon their fun and carefree image and go in a more serious bullsh!t political posturing direction (core 2000's)
- Windows 98 and ME being more popular than XP (Y2K era)
- Dial Up being bigger than Broadband (Y2K era)
- TV Shows like Buffy, Dawson's Creek, Dexter's, Star Wars: The Clone Wars (original animated series), Spider-Man 2003, Johnny Bravo, Friends and Frasier (Y2K era)
- Last year that Ed, Edd and Eddy was traditionally animated (Y2K era)
- TV Shows like One Tree Hill, The O.C., Arrested Development (core 2000's)
- Fashion such as baggy dickies, 3/4 shorts, chain wallets, spiky hair and loose shirts and the general tomboy look still popular (Y2K era)
- Discman is much more popular than the iPod which is not even a blip on the radar. (Y2K era)
- Cassette tapes still popular, new releases being sold in this format and not yet being fazed out of stores. (Y2K era)
- Was part of the Web 1.0 era (Y2K era)
- Social Media wasn't as popular (Y2K era)
- In terms of kids and Cartoon Network it was still the Powerhouse era (Y2K era)
- Nickelodeon was still in their silver age (Y2K era)
- Consoles such as the Nintendo 64 and Gameboy Color were still available in stores (Y2K era)
- Disney was still making 2D Traditional Animation (Y2K era)
- Toon Disney didn't have Jetix yet so all of their Disney Afternoon/One Saturday Morning shows was still on air (Y2K era)
- Mario Kart Double Dash and Crash Nitro Kart were released which were the quintessential 2000's kart racing games (core 2000's) sequels to Mario Kart 64 and Crash Team Racing which were Y2K.
- That's So Raven (core 2000's)
- Last season of 1st generation Pokemon TV series in the U.S. (Y2K era)
- Toonami still on weekdays (Y2K era)
- Michael Jordan leaves the NBA (core 2000's)

All credit goes to to Jordan, Toon, UltraGameDog (for helping me archive this post), and I creating this chart last year. I had to revive it just to grab everybody's attention why 2003 was still part of early 2000's culture.

Let's see some 2003 things:
- Pop Punk albums like Foot in Mouth Disease, So Long Astoria, MFZB and Making the Grade (Y2K Era)
- Pop Punk albums like Take This to Your Grave, North and blink-182's self-titled (core 2000's)
- Green Day and My Chemical Romance head into the studio and start recording their 2000's defining albums (core 2000's)
- The filming of Mean Girls (core 2000's)
- 50 Cent and Lil Jon's breakthrough albums and the rise of Snap and Crunk rap (core 2000's)
- The fall of Nu Metal like Limp Bizkit (core 2000's)
- Nu Metal albums that sustained it's popularity like Meteora, Take a Look in the Mirror, Unstable and Faceless (Y2K era)
- Movies like School of Rock, American Wedding, Daredevil, Bruce Almighty, The Hulk and Return of the King (Y2K Era)
- Beginning of Myspace (core 2000's)
- In June 2003, DVD rentals overtake VHS (core 2000's)
- First year with no new N64 or Gameboy Color releases in NA (core 2000's)
- Second last year of PS1 new releases and last year of new Dreamcast releases (Y2K era)
- Notable Pop Punk labels such as Fat Wreck Chords abandon their fun and carefree image and go in a more serious bullsh!t political posturing direction (core 2000's)
- Windows 98 and ME being more popular than XP (Y2K era)
- Dial Up being bigger than Broadband (Y2K era)
- TV Shows like Buffy, Dawson's Creek, Dexter's, Star Wars: The Clone Wars (original animated series), Spider-Man 2003, Johnny Bravo, Friends and Frasier (Y2K era)
- Last year that Ed, Edd and Eddy was traditionally animated (Y2K era)
- TV Shows like One Tree Hill, The O.C., Arrested Development (core 2000's)
- Fashion such as baggy dickies, 3/4 shorts, chain wallets, spiky hair and loose shirts and the general tomboy look still popular (Y2K era)
- Discman is much more popular than the iPod which is not even a blip on the radar. (Y2K era)
- Cassette tapes still popular, new releases being sold in this format and not yet being fazed out of stores. (Y2K era)
- Was part of the Web 1.0 era (Y2K era)
- Social Media wasn't as popular (Y2K era)
- In terms of kids and Cartoon Network it was still the Powerhouse era (Y2K era)
- Nickelodeon was still in their silver age (Y2K era)
- Consoles such as the Nintendo 64 and Gameboy Color were still available in stores (Y2K era)
- Disney was still making 2D Traditional Animation (Y2K era)
- Toon Disney didn't have Jetix yet so all of their Disney Afternoon/One Saturday Morning shows was still on air (Y2K era)
- Mario Kart Double Dash and Crash Nitro Kart were released which were the quintessential 2000's kart racing games (core 2000's) sequels to Mario Kart 64 and Crash Team Racing which were Y2K.
- That's So Raven (core 2000's)
- Last season of 1st generation Pokemon TV series in the U.S. (Y2K era)
- Toonami still on weekdays (Y2K era)
- Michael Jordan leaves the NBA (core 2000's)


2003 is literally the year that removes us from the Y2K era and into the new millennium in my opinion. 1998 is when the Y2K era goes full swing. 2001 I suppose is the last Y2K year with 2002 being a non-Y2K year that still holds on to a ton of Y2K era culture (guess you can call 2002 a faux Y2K year since in terms of pop culture is actually quite comparable to 2001 pop culturally. That is assuming you end the Y2K era in 2001 anyway). The first half of 2003 felt like 2002 so it still had that early 2000s/Y2K era vibe to it until around late 2003 where the core 2000s media and culture that existed in early 2003 actually starts to become much more noticeable and dominate by late 2003 (they existed in early 2003, but was overshadowed by the Y2K era culture leftovers).

Maybe the early 00s were different in Canada compared to here, but I agree with ZeldaFan's chart. That's how 2003 was in the U.S.

At the same time however, I know of this Canadian band from 2003 whose only album sounded closer to 2001 than to 2005.

Speaking about good ole' 2003, I found this commercial break from Cartoon Network back then:

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I would of just started 2nd Grade around this time 8)

At the same time however, I know of this Canadian band from 2003 whose only album sounded closer to 2001 than to 2005.


I was referring to this one:

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Speaking about good ole' 2003, I found this commercial break from Cartoon Network back then:

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I would of just started 2nd Grade around this time 8)

As a kid I pledged my allegiance to early 2000s Nick. I watched early 2000s CN sometimes, but not nearly as much as early 2000s Nick. Maybe I was a philistine as a kid. :P

More early '00s video.

At the absolute height of TRL's popularity in early 2001, MTV added an extra live thirty minute program just before TRL in the 3:30 time slot (TRL started at 4 PM) called TRL Presents: VJ For a Day. It was essentially a "game show" style program where three contestants would battle to take the job of MTV VJ Ray Munns. The show would also feature a countdown of TRL videos 15-11 (i.e. the videos that just missed out on making the TRL top 10). I was at my height of watching MTV around this time and used to literally run home from school every afternoon so I could watch this show. The video was a fun trip down memory lane, and man does it reek of 2001. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSPgOWySEok

Does anybody else remember this rather obscure Y2K era show?

More early '00s video.

At the absolute height of TRL's popularity in early 2001, MTV added an extra live thirty minute program just before TRL in the 3:30 time slot (TRL started at 4 PM) called TRL Presents: VJ For a Day. It was essentially a "game show" style program where three contestants would battle to take the job of MTV VJ Ray Munns. The show would also feature a countdown of TRL videos 15-11 (i.e. the videos that just missed out on making the TRL top 10). I was at my height of watching MTV around this time and used to literally run home from school every afternoon so I could watch this show. The video was a fun trip down memory lane, and man does it reek of 2001. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSPgOWySEok

Does anybody else remember this rather obscure Y2K era show?

I remember I never really liked TRL because they never showed full music videos, only clips for like 30 seconds. I prefered the Canadian version, MuchOnDemand where they played complete music videos and the enviornment of the show felt less fake and more authentic. I really miss this era now.  :\'(

More early '00s video.

At the absolute height of TRL's popularity in early 2001, MTV added an extra live thirty minute program just before TRL in the 3:30 time slot (TRL started at 4 PM) called TRL Presents: VJ For a Day. It was essentially a "game show" style program where three contestants would battle to take the job of MTV VJ Ray Munns. The show would also feature a countdown of TRL videos 15-11 (i.e. the videos that just missed out on making the TRL top 10). I was at my height of watching MTV around this time and used to literally run home from school every afternoon so I could watch this show. The video was a fun trip down memory lane, and man does it reek of 2001. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSPgOWySEok

Does anybody else remember this rather obscure Y2K era show?


Good ol' nostalgia coming from that. If only the 2010s can capture that same cultural vibe that was present at the time. I like that wacky, colorful, upbeat, and somewhat cheesy vibe from the early 2000s. That guy in the red hat reminds a lot of a neighboring kid I had back between 2001-2002. During that time the use of Skateboards and Scooters were big due to the Xtreme Sports craze. Talking about how he was able to pull off some sick tricks on his scooter. 

Good ol' nostalgia coming from that. If only the 2010s can capture that same cultural vibe that was present at the time. I like that wacky, colorful, upbeat, and somewhat cheesy vibe from the early 2000s. That guy in the red hat reminds a lot of a neighboring kid I had back between 2001-2002. During that time the use of Skateboards and Scooters were big due to the Xtreme Sports craze. Talking about how he was able to pull off some sick tricks on his scooter.


Too bad I didn't have MTV pre-2004, when they actually played videos, instead of getting MTV in 2008. I noticed by 2004, videos became almost irrelevant to MTV!  ::)

Too bad I didn't have MTV pre-2004, when they actually played videos, instead of getting MTV in 2008. I noticed by 2004, videos became almost irrelevant to MTV!  ::)


I thought videos became irrelevant to MTV before then?

I thought videos became irrelevant to MTV before then?


I remember as late as like 2000/2001, you could at least catch a 1 minute clip of a music video.

Too bad I didn't have MTV pre-2004, when they actually played videos, instead of getting MTV in 2008. I noticed by 2004, videos became almost irrelevant to MTV!  ::)



I thought videos became irrelevant to MTV before then?


It's been like that ever since they cancelled Clone High in 2003. MTV focused more on reality shows than actual music videos ever since. Even as somebody who never watches the channel regularly, I know they haven't been showing music-related entertainment since then. VH1 was like the new MTV since the mid 2000s, despite being on air for over 30 years.

Not too well. I do have some vague memories from the early 00's, but I don't remember any of the news events (because obviously, I was 1-3 in this time period).

I can't remember anything about 2000 (I turned one in the summer of that year).
My earliest memory was in July 2001 (roughly seven weeks prior to 9/11).
I do have some vague memories from 2002 (ex: moving to another state), but like my 2001 memory, it isn't too bright either.

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Yeah TRL was the sh!t back in the day. Me and my older siblings would watch it after school every day. They would also watch 106 & Park on BET too. Some of the most nostalgic songs from my childhood are actually from me watching music videos with my siblings from MTV and BET like:

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Damn I'm getting a nostalgic heatwave just thinking about it :D

Not too well. I do have some vague memories from the early 00's, but I don't remember any of the news events (because obviously, I was 1-3 in this time period).

I can't remember anything about 2000 (I turned one in the summer of that year).
My earliest memory was in July 2001 (roughly seven weeks prior to 9/11).
I do have some vague memories from 2002 (ex: moving to another state), but like my 2001 memory, it isn't too bright either.


How I tend to see it is if you were a teenager by the end of the 2000s you most likely can remember the early 2000s well enough.

2000- 11/12 years old. For me, Harry Potter, Macy Gray, I Wanna Know by Joe, teen pop, Big Brother
2001- 12/13 years old. 9/11, Bush becoming president, a small recession, ipods, anthrax attacks
2002- 13/14 years old. Eminem's album The Eminem Show, Ashanti, rap has a notable dominance by now, Michelle Branch and Vanessa Carlton are popular
2003- 14/15 years old. 50 Cent, Beyonce, Family Guy becomes popular, The OC, Crunk, Iraq War

2000- 11/12 years old. For me, Harry Potter, Macy Gray, I Wanna Know by Joe, teen pop, Big Brother
2001- 12/13 years old. 9/11, Bush becoming president, a small recession, ipods, anthrax attacks
2002- 13/14 years old. Eminem's album The Eminem Show, Ashanti, rap has a notable dominance by now, Michelle Branch and Vanessa Carlton are popular
2003- 14/15 years old. 50 Cent, Beyonce, Family Guy becomes popular, The OC, Crunk, Iraq War


I could've sworn Big Brother was a 2004 thing. I guess not.  ;D

Also I thought anthrax attack was like asthma attack but I just looked it up and I guess not.  :-[

How I tend to see it is if you were a teenager by the end of the 2000s you most likely can remember the early 2000s well enough.


You're right, although I think it does depend on the individual. For instance, I can remember 2003 really vividly, so much so that I can recall what TV shows I was watching and the music I was listening to.

You're right, although I think it does depend on the individual. For instance, I can remember 2003 really vividly, so much so that I can recall what TV shows I was watching and the music I was listening to.


I think he's talking about the entire early 2000s, so 2000-2003.

I could've sworn Big Brother was a 2004 thing. I guess not. ;D

Also I thought anthrax attack was like asthma attack but I just looked it up and I guess not.  :-[


Probably a false memory. We all have them once in a while. Big Brother began in 2000, in the USA.

But you're not incorrect, Big Brother was popular for a long time, so Big Brother being 2004ish
isn't wrong!

Probably a false memory. We all have them once in a while. Big Brother began in 2000, in the USA.

But you're not incorrect, Big Brother was popular for a long time, so Big Brother being 2004ish
isn't wrong!


I still watch it, a few episodes every now and then  :-[ :-[ My coworker who I sit beside at work entertains me all day by talking about the garbage reality TV shows he watched the previous day. LOL. He watches Big Brothers from many different countries (Canada, US, UK, Australia etc.) lmao.

I still watch it, a few episodes every now and then  :-[ :-[ My coworker who I sit beside at work entertains me all day by talking about the garbage reality TV shows he watched the previous day. LOL. He watches Big Brothers from many different countries (Canada, US, UK, Australia etc.) lmao.


I can take or leave reality TV shows. They have never bothered me, but I'm not in love with them either.
I do like some Housewives shows, sometimes, and early Kardashians were kind of interesting.
Also, Survivor is great if you like to learn how to read people. :.ducks:.
And of course I do love early Big Brother and American Idol up until 2007/2008.
And then some Fear Factor was interesting to me, but I wasn't too into that show.

I can take or leave reality TV shows. They have never bothered me, but I'm not in love with them either.
I do like some Housewives shows, sometimes, and early Kardashians were kind of interesting.
Also, Survivor is great if you like to learn how to read people. :.ducks:.
And of course I do love early Big Brother and American Idol up until 2007/2008.
And then some Fear Factor was interesting to me, but I wasn't too into that show.


I watched a few episodes of The Real Housewives of Vancouver. They have a Chinese version! It's more relatable than the white ones  ;D

I never watched Kardashians/Survivor. I used to watch the Simple Life though  :-[

I watched an episode of Bachelorette, but I couldn't get into it. Super boring. But almost EVERY girl I know watches it.  ???

In general, I sometimes just watch TLC reality TV shows with my mom if she has them on. There's one about super cheap/frugal people and those coupon collectors. That's my favourite, my mom takes tips from there LOL

I watched a few episodes of The Real Chinese Housewives of Vancouver. They have a Chinese version! It's more relatable than the white ones  ;D

I never watched Kardashians/Survivor. I used to watch the Simple Life though  :-But almost EVERY girl I know watches it. ???

In general, I sometimes just watch TLC reality TV shows with my mom if she has them on. There's one about super cheap/frugal people. That's my favourite, my mom takes tips from there LOL


Not because they're girls, but just male and female entertainment in general. I believe this type of culture is partly why Trump won.  :-X  :-X

Not because they're girls, but just male and female entertainment in general. I believe this type of culture is partly why Trump won.  :-X  :-X


Straights having to wait 12 weeks to finally get laid (or not!) makes them want to vote Trump? I could believe it.  :-X :-X

But seriously, what makes you say that? XD

Now that we have officially moved into the late '10s, I just find myself stunned at how old the early '00s are getting. The technology certainly seems dated, but my memories of 2000-2002 still seem like yesterday, not slowly creeping up on 20 years ago! :o

Then I got to thinking about it the other day, and had to remind myself of these alarming facts:

*You have to be at least 18 years old (born in 1999) in order to remember the early '00s at all.
*You have to be at least 20 years old (born in 1997) in order to have at least some memories from every year in the early '00s.
*You have to be at least around 23 years old (born in 1993-94ish/perhaps '95) to have crystal clear memories of every year in the early '00s.
*If you were a teenager at any point in the early '00s, then you are either over 30 years old, or close to it.

In addition, assuming that 2002-03 was the last early '00s school year:

*You have to be at least 29 years old (born in 1988) in order to have attended high school in the early '00s.
*You have to be at least 26 years old (born in 1991) in order to have attended middle school in the early '00s.
*You have to be at least 20 years old (born in 1997) in order to have attended elementary school in the early '00s.

So, using this thread as something of a survey, home many members of inthe00s in 2017 would say that they have a "solid" memory of 2000-2002?


I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree, I wouldn't just extend this to 2000 borns but actually I would go as far to say 2001 borns are the last to remember the early 2000s.
It's simple, if me and other 2000 borns can remember 2002 (which I can), it makes complete sense that 2001 borns can remember 2003 and therefore the early 2000s.  :)

I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree, I wouldn't just extend this to 2000 borns but actually I would go as far to say 2001 borns are the last to remember the early 2000s.
It's simple, if me and other 2000 borns can remember 2002 (which I can), it makes complete sense that 2001 borns can remember 2003 and therefore the early 2000s.  :)


You remember all of 2002? Or do you mean you have some memories from 2002?

I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree, I wouldn't just extend this to 2000 borns but actually I would go as far to say 2001 borns are the last to remember the early 2000s.
It's simple, if me and other 2000 borns can remember 2002 (which I can), it makes complete sense that 2001 borns can remember 2003 and therefore the early 2000s.  :)


Honestly If you're just going by strictly vague memories, theoretically yes. But I think what the OP was mentioning was people who would be the last to possibly have any substantive memory of the early 00's as they were going, not just vague. In that sense, I'd agree that ending with 1999 borns and even 2000 borns (with some being able to remember 2003), but definitely not 2001 borns. Most people don't start forming substantive memories until around 3 or 4, so your average 01er wouldn't remember much until 2004 or 2005.

Honestly If you're just going by strictly vague memories, theoretically yes. But I think what the OP was mentioning was people who would be the last to possibly have any substantive memory of the early 00's as they were going, not just vague. In that sense, I'd agree that ending with 1999 borns and even 2000 borns (with some being able to remember 2003), but definitely not 2001 borns. Most people don't start forming substantive memories until around 3 or 4, so your average 01er wouldn't remember much until 2004 or 2005.

It's 1997 to remember all of the early '00s substantively. To be an early 2000s kid, it's probably 1995 as age 5 is the start of your core childhood.

It's 1997 to remember all of the early '00s substantively. To be an early 2000s kid, it's probably 1995 as age 5 is the start of your core childhood.


I agree. If you're talking about remembering the early 00's in its entirety, 1997 borns would be the last.

Honestly If you're just going by strictly vague memories, theoretically yes. But I think what the OP was mentioning was people who would be the last to possibly have any substantive memory of the early 00's as they were going, not just vague. In that sense, I'd agree that ending with 1999 borns and even 2000 borns (with some being able to remember 2003), but definitely not 2001 borns. Most people don't start forming substantive memories until around 3 or 4, so your average 01er wouldn't remember much until 2004 or 2005.



It's 1997 to remember all of the early '00s substantively. To be an early 2000s kid, it's probably 1995 as age 5 is the start of your core childhood.



I agree. If you're talking about remembering the early 00's in its entirety, 1997 borns would be the last.

I concur.

Honestly If you're just going by strictly vague memories, theoretically yes. But I think what the OP was mentioning was people who would be the last to possibly have any substantive memory of the early 00's as they were going, not just vague. In that sense, I'd agree that ending with 1999 borns and even 2000 borns (with some being able to remember 2003), but definitely not 2001 borns. Most people don't start forming substantive memories until around 3 or 4, so your average 01er wouldn't remember much until 2004 or 2005.


Okay I agree, I just wasn't sure if the OP meant remembering the early 2000s at all or having somewhat decent memories of that time :). Either way, it wouldn't affect me Becasue I know I have vivid memories from when I was 3 anyways. ;). However yes, I don't think 2001 borns would have a big collection of  vivid early 2000s memories. ;)

My apology if I make any of you feel old, but I was born in '02 and unfortunately I don't  have any memory of the early 00's. My first memory took place in 2004. But it was very, and I mean very, vague. I was only 2 years old at the time. My memories of 2005 were relatively limited. I only have a few clear memories from that year. 2006 was like 2005 but with a few more clear memories. 2007 is the first year I can recall as a whole.

My apology if I make any of you feel old, but I was born in '02 and unfortunately I don't  have any memory of the early 00's. My first memory took place in 2004. But it was very, and I mean very, vague. I was only 2 years old at the time. My memories of 2005 were relatively limited. I only have a few clear memories from that year. 2006 was like 2005 but with a few more clear memories. 2007 is the first year I can recall as a whole.


That's ok. Although it makes sense you can't remember the early 2000s as you were only born in 2002 :)

My apology if I make any of you feel old, but I was born in '02 and unfortunately I don't  have any memory of the early 00's. My first memory took place in 2004. But it was very, and I mean very, vague. I was only 2 years old at the time. My memories of 2005 were relatively limited. I only have a few clear memories from that year. 2006 was like 2005 but with a few more clear memories. 2007 is the first year I can recall as a whole.

I do feel old now  :(

My apology if I make any of you feel old, but I was born in '02 and unfortunately I don't  have any memory of the early 00's. My first memory took place in 2004. But it was very, and I mean very, vague. I was only 2 years old at the time. My memories of 2005 were relatively limited. I only have a few clear memories from that year. 2006 was like 2005 but with a few more clear memories. 2007 is the first year I can recall as a whole.


Don't feel bad dude! Oh and welcome to the forums :).

My apology if I make any of you feel old, but I was born in '02 and unfortunately I don't  have any memory of the early 00's. My first memory took place in 2004. But it was very, and I mean very, vague. I was only 2 years old at the time. My memories of 2005 were relatively limited. I only have a few clear memories from that year. 2006 was like 2005 but with a few more clear memories. 2007 is the first year I can recall as a whole.

Don't worry about it! We discourage ageism on here.

My apology if I make any of you feel old, but I was born in '02 and unfortunately I don't  have any memory of the early 00's. My first memory took place in 2004. But it was very, and I mean very, vague. I was only 2 years old at the time. My memories of 2005 were relatively limited. I only have a few clear memories from that year. 2006 was like 2005 but with a few more clear memories. 2007 is the first year I can recall as a whole.


Welcome to the forums!

It's 1997 to remember all of the early '00s substantively. To be an early 2000s kid, it's probably 1995 as age 5 is the start of your core childhood.


1993-1995 borns are the early 2000s kids  :)

1993-1995 borns are the early 2000s kids  :)
More like 1991-1995 ;). All those people are early 2000s kids just as much as the late 90s. They're basically hybrids even if it not exactly straight.

1993-1995 borns are the early 2000s kids  :)

I consider myself a 2000's kid. The reason being is because 2010's kids get a bad rep for being kids who go on say Instagram at a really young age. If I called myself a 2010's kid then people would think that I owned social media accounts and a smartphone at the age of 5 or something. And I did NOT have a childhood like that. The 2000s were more badass than the 2010s. Heck, even the late 2000s had better music than 2014+ and just saying 10's kids out loud sounds odd.
I can already tell that my childhood experience is worlds away from my sister who is currently aged 10. Overall I enjoyed my childhood experience more so in the 2000s so I call myself a 2000's kid.

The 2000s were more badass than the 2010s. Heck, even the late 2000s had better music than 2014+ and just saying 10's kids out loud sounds odd.

Of course, man. The 2000s has Thong Song, DMX, Linkin Park, the PS2 and balanced sh!t.

Of course, man. The 2000s has Thong Song, DMX, Linkin Park, the PS2 and balanced sh!t.

It's unfortunate that I didn't fully experience the 2000s. I can only remember 2005-2009 ,  but I'm at least a bit glad I got to experience the second half.

I consider myself a 2000's kid. The reason being is because 2010's kids get a bad rep for being kids who go on say Instagram at a really young age. If I called myself a 2010's kid then people would think that I owned social media accounts and a smartphone at the age of 5 or something. And I did NOT have a childhood like that. The 2000s were more badass than the 2010s. Heck, even the late 2000s had better music than 2014+ and just saying 10's kids out loud sounds odd.
I can already tell that my childhood experience is worlds away from my sister who is currently aged 10. Overall I enjoyed my childhood experience more so in the 2000s so I call myself a 2000's kid.

I don't think you should let those stereotypes define you. I mean it's fine if you consider yourself a 2000's kid but just keep in mind that those things you are hearing are just stereotypes that aren't true. I was born in the same year as you and I consider myself an ultimate late 2000's / early 2010's hybrid kid. I thought both decades were really good. And I don't think you should feel bad about being a partial '10's kids (cause we were kids for some time in the 2010s)

This thread about the early '00s NOT how much you dislike being classified as a 2010s kid.

It's unfortunate that I didn't fully experience the 2000s. I can only remember 2005-2009 ,  but I'm at least a bit glad I got to experience the second half.


I can remember 2002-2009, so I think I got to experience the vast majority of the 2000s and was in my core childhood for almost all the years when the 2000s culture was at its peak and most relevant (2004-2007). The only years I can't recall are 2000/1, but it's not like those years are very relevant for remembering what the 2000s culture was like, especially 2000.  :)

Everything since the late 90s is crystal clear to my memory. I have cinematic memories of some but not all of the 1995-1996 school year period.

I can remember 2002-2009, so I think I got to experience the vast majority of the 2000s and was in my core childhood for almost all the years when the 2000s culture was at its peak and most relevant (2004-2007). The only years I can't recall are 2000/1, but it's not like those years are very relevant for remembering what the 2000s culture was like, especially 2000.  :)

Do you remember Toon Disney? I used to watch Power Rangers, and American Dragon: Jake Long. Then February 13, 2009 rolled around and I got pissed off that it turned to Disney XD. Ever since then I hated Disney

Do you remember Toon Disney? I used to watch Power Rangers, and American Dragon: Jake Long. Then February 13, 2009 rolled around and I got pissed off that it turned to Disney XD. Ever since then I hated Disney

I remember Toon Disney when it was first launched in the late 90's; for most of its existence it aired nothing but Disney cartoon shows, hence the name. But when they started airing live-action programs, I personally thought that was a stupid move. Then of course it eventually flipped to DisneyXD, like you said.

I remember Toon Disney when it was first launched in the late 90's; for most of its existence it aired nothing but Disney cartoon shows, hence the name. But when they started airing live-action programs, I personally thought that was a stupid move. Then of course it eventually flipped to DisneyXD, like you said.


The 1990s Disney Cartoons were the best!

Did the Buzz Lightyear cartoon and House of Mouse from the early 2000s air on Toon Disney? House of Mouse was my favourite.  8)

More like 1989-1996 ;). All those people are early 2000s kids just as much as the late 90s. They're basically hybrids even if it not exactly straight.


Fixed it for you. Childhood is ages 3-12, but peak childhood is ages 7/8. So everybody born from 1989-1996 were ages 7 & or 8 at some point from 1997 through 2003, aka the late 90's/early 00's.

Do you remember Toon Disney? I used to watch Power Rangers, and American Dragon: Jake Long. Then February 13, 2009 rolled around and I got pissed off that it turned to Disney XD. Ever since then I hated Disney


Toon Disney was one of my favorite channels growing up :D! I was a fan of it from 2001-2004/5, I stopped watching it as regularly right around when Jetix started to absorb most of TD's schedule.

Fixed it for you. Childhood is ages 3-12, but peak childhood is ages 7/8. So everybody born from 1989-1996 were ages 7 & or 8 at some point from 1997 through 2003, aka the late 90's/early 00's.


Using the 3-12 definition, everyone born from 1987-2000 was in their childhood at some point during the early 2000s.

My memories start becoming clearer in 1997, much clearer in 1998, and solid by the time 1999 starts, so remembering 2000 is as easy as pie. From the release of Mario Party 2 to the release of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! I got it all down.  8)

Using the 3-12 definition, everyone born from 1987-2000 was in their childhood at some point during the early 2000s.


Good point!

My memories start becoming clearer in 1997, much clearer in 1998, and solid by the time 1999 starts, so remembering 2000 is as easy as pie. From the release of Mario Party 2 to the release of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! I got it all down.  8)


For me 1999 is spotty, some clear memories (like my old house and my pre school) & some vague, 2000 is decent (although late 2000 becomes much clearer), 2001 clear, and 2002 solid!

For me 1999 is spotty, some clear memories (like my old house and my pre school) & some vague, 2000 is decent (although late 2000 becomes much clearer), 2001 clear, and 2002 solid!

I was 5 in 2007 and I remember that year like yesterday lol. I remember when I had trouble using scissors and I accidentally cut my finger XD

The 1990s Disney Cartoons were the best!

Agreed! Even those that began in the late 80's and became part of the "Disney Afternoon" lineup in the early 90's.



Did the Buzz Lightyear cartoon and House of Mouse from the early 2000s air on Toon Disney? House of Mouse was my favourite.  8)

I'm pretty sure "House Of Mouse" did.

If it is a Disney Afternoon or One Saturday Morning cartoon then I'm 100% sure it aired on Toon Disney. Farthest back I can remember watching it was 1999 apparently. But it wasn't until Summer 2000 where I'd binge the channel.

Very well.

You kids are bragging about having memories from 2002, which is after I started high school. When did 2000's teens get so old.

You kids are bragging about having memories from 2002, which is after I started high school. When did 2000's teens get so old.

Nobody cares about that. You're an old man >:( ;).

You kids are bragging about having memories from 2002, which is after I started high school. When did 2000's teens get so old.


I don't get it ???

I don't get it ???


It's just the fact that the early 2000s, which once felt so futuristic to those who were there, is now entering that same "so old it's barely relevant" territory that my mind categorized 1992 to 1995 with growing up.

Fixed it for you. Childhood is ages 3-12, but peak childhood is ages 7/8. So everybody born from 1989-1996 were ages 7 & or 8 at some point from 1997 through 2003, aka the late 90's/early 00's.
That's true, and I think we can say they're all hybrids even some lean one over the other. I mean, all of us have memories of Pokemon, Power Rangers, Digimon, and Yu-Gi-Oh.

It's just the fact that the early 2000s, which once felt so futuristic to those who were there, is now entering that same "so old it's barely relevant" territory that my mind categorized 1992 to 1995 with growing up.


The fact that songs from the 2000s alone at some will be a 100 years old is uncomprehensive to me. I'm not ready for this. Haha I just don't see the 2000s ever getting old what its sound.

The fact that songs from the 2000s alone at some will be a 100 years old is uncomprehensive to me. I'm not ready for this. Haha I just don't see the 2000s ever getting old what its sound.


Haha true that. Whenever CNN does a decade series on "The Noughties" I'm gonna feel old as dirt :-X

It's just the fact that the early 2000s, which once felt so futuristic to those who were there, is now entering that same "so old it's barely relevant" territory that my mind categorized 1992 to 1995 with growing up.



The fact that songs from the 2000s alone at some point will be a 100 years old is uncomprehensive to me. I'm not ready for this. Haha, I just don't see the 2000s ever getting old what its sound.



Haha, true that. Whenever CNN does a decade series on "The Noughties" I'm gonna feel old as dirt :-X
Uh same here! In the next few years, the early 00s will be 20 years old and most people are not ready for that aspect. Although, I already feel that way because there are 90s things out there I remember was were just brand new.

Lately I've been starting to feel old for the fact that the late '90s are literally 20 years old, officially "retro", and I have a quite a few memories from that time.  :-\\

Lately I've been starting to feel old for the fact that the late '90s are literally 20 years old, officially "retro", and I have a quite a few memories from that time.  :-\\


I feel old knowing that I was even born during that time, especially considering the fact that I have no recollections of it!

I feel old knowing that I was even born during that time, especially considering the fact that I have no recollections of it!



I can't remember the '90s either and I was born just after summer '97. I have very cloudy and faded memories of jumping on a bunch of scrapped present wrappers on parties and going dipping in a pool in the tropical conditions (i spent the first 3 years of my life on an island) in the '90s

I feel old knowing that I was even born during that time, especially considering the fact that I have no recollections of it!

You always talk like you're in your mid 80's  ;D

You always talk like you're in your mid 80's  ;D


Well he has reason too! Let's just rmemeber he was born way back in the 1900s ;D

Well he has reason too! Let's just rmemeber he was born way back in the 1900s ;D

Oh yeah. Like you said he's a prehistoric dinosaur

Oh yeah. Like you said he's a prehistoric dinosaur


Yeah ;D

Yeah ;D

you guys are ancient y'all were born in a different century

you guys are ancient y'all were born in a different century


Me or him? ???

Me or him? ???

well i said "you guys" so both of y'all  ;D

Well he has reason too! Let's just rmemeber he was born way back in the 1900s ;D


Yeah, dinosaurs will still roaming the earth when I was born. :P  ;D

Yeah, dinosaurs will still roaming the earth when I was born. :P  ;D

Your age is higher than the number of atoms in the universe.

you guys are ancient y'all were born in a different century


Who you calling old? ???
That's why being born in 2000 is so good though, we got to live in another Millenium and the 20th century unlike you 2001+ borns, but we aren't like the cryptkeepers born 1999 and before ;D

Who you calling old? ???
That's why being born in 2000 is so good though, we got to live in another Millenium and the 20th century unlike you 2001+ borns, but we aren't like the cryptkeepers born 1999 and before ;D

You are so old. You must have an A++ in history class

You are so old. You must have an A++ in history class

LMFAOOOOOOOOO I'M SCREAMING  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I don't think you should let those stereotypes define you. I mean it's fine if you consider yourself a 2000's kid but just keep in mind that those things you are hearing are just stereotypes that aren't true. I was born in the same year as you and I consider myself an ultimate late 2000's / early 2010's hybrid kid. I thought both decades were really good. And I don't think you should feel bad about being a partial '10's kids (cause we were kids for some time in the 2010s)

No, it's not that I feel bad for being a partial 10s kid, but unlike you I genuinely don't like this decade at all. With the exception of 2010-2013, the music in this decade sounds the same to me.
The reason I signed up for this website in the first place is because I'm inclined to talking about nostalgic things from my childhood in the late 2000's. With how boring this decade has gotten, it's very hard to not be nostalgic.

You always talk like you're in your mid 80's  ;D


I notice a lot of the late teens/early 20s people on this board keep looking for excuses to call themselves old, and it's getting very out of hand. ;D

The reason I signed up for this website in the first place is because I'm inclined to talking about nostalgic things from my childhood in the late 2000's. With how boring this decade has gotten, it's very hard to not be nostalgic.


I'm with you, dude. I miss the 2000s like crazy. Haha Its like, my life completed by then because nothing interest me now.

No, it's not that I feel bad for being a partial 10s kid, but unlike you I genuinely don't like this decade at all. With the exception of 2010-2013, the music in this decade sounds the same to me.
The reason I signed up for this website in the first place is because I'm inclined to talking about nostalgic things from my childhood in the late 2000's. With how boring this decade has gotten, it's very hard to not be nostalgic.


That's how I feel as well. Although, i'm not really nostalgic for most of the music from my childhood, because a lot of it was really crappy. The Mid 2000's in particular were awful.  8-P

I notice a lot of the late teens/early 20s people on this board keep looking for excuses to call themselves old, and it's getting very out of hand. ;D


I don't know, man. I'm pretty sure I've seen you making posts about how you feel old. Now that I think about it everyone has done it before. We're all guilty!

I don't know, man. I'm pretty sure I've seen you making posts about how you feel old. Now that I think about it everyone has done it before. We're all guilty!


I was including myself in "early 20s". What, doesn't 24 count as early 20s?  :-X



Lately I've been starting to feel old for the fact that the late '90s are literally 20 years old, officially "retro", and I have a quite a few memories from that time.  :-\\


What blows my mind is a lot of 1997 games like Mario Kart 64 and Golden eye are now as retro as the NES and Super Mario  Bros. were when I started becoming a serious gamer (2006). It doesn't feel that way at all.  :-\\

I was including myself in "early 20s". What, doesn't 24 count as early 20s?  :-X
Yeah it counts if one divides the age group into halves. 25 to 29 would be late.

Yeah it counts if one divides the age group into halves. 25 to 29 would be late.


Early 20s = 20-25
Mid 20s = 25-28
Late 20s = 29-35

IMO.

Early 20s = 20-25
Mid 20s = 25-28
Late 20s = 29-35

IMO.

35 isn’t even 20s though..

I was including myself in "early 20s". What, doesn't 24 count as early 20s?  :-X


Nah, 24+ is old. You an old fogy now. Expected to have your own wife and kids by this age. It really twists your mind when you see that people age 18-20 have kids and have more responsibilities than someone in their mid 20s. Life is weird like that.

Early 20s = 20-25
Mid 20s = 25-28
Late 20s = 29-35

IMO.


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I remember the early 00s very well, out of work and seeking a new direction in my employment, re-training etc. Which all worked out well.

Nah, 24+ is old. You an old fogy now. Expected to have your own wife and kids by this age. It really twists your mind when you see that people age 18-20 have kids and have more responsibilities than someone in their mid 20s. Life is weird like that.

24 isn't old because 30 is like the new 20. Anyone in their 20s is still young. Whether they feel that way or not is another story.

I attended a vocational program in Manhattan in the early 2000's.

30 is like the new 20.
That is some BS. ;D ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2328671/30-NOT-new-20-Top-psychologist-says-20-somethings-damaging-future-career-relationships-treating-decade-downtime-real-life-begins.html

24 isn't old because 30 is like the new 20. Anyone in their 20s is still young. Whether they feel that way or not is another story.


Anyone in their 20s is still fairly old though :)

Early in the 2000s I use to be a florist both assembling and making bouquets. I started in 2000 when I was 20. Then in 2001, I applied for a position as a florist at Shaw's...I LOVED that job position. I learned everything I know about floral bouquets and plants.  :)

Anyone in their 20s is still fairly old though :)

Ha good joke (I hope that was a joke). No, no they aren't old. They aren't even middle aged yet.  :)

That is some BS. ;D ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2328671/30-NOT-new-20-Top-psychologist-says-20-somethings-damaging-future-career-relationships-treating-decade-downtime-real-life-begins.html

It really isn't. Most people move out of their parents home until mid '20s now in order save costs while going to university, as I am. The life span keeps getting longer and longer. 30 is the new 20.  You and I are still young, whether we feel that way or not. :)

It really isn't. Most people move out of their parents home until the mid-'20s now in order save costs while going to university, as I am. The lifespan keeps getting longer and longer. 30 is the new 20.  You and I are still young, whether we feel that way or not. :)
Actually, it is. The article stated if one keeps pushing back important things, and use his or her 20s as downtime, it's going to affect them badly in the long term.

Ha good joke (I hope that was a joke). No, no they aren't old. They aren't even middle aged yet.  :)


in your 40's would be considered middle aged.

It really isn't. Most people move out of their parents home until mid '20s now in order save costs while going to university, as I am. The life span keeps getting longer and longer. 30 is the new 20.  You and I are still young, whether we feel that way or not. :)


and I'm going to be 44 and I still admit to be living with My Parents.

Actually, it is. The article stated if one keeps pushing back important things, and use his or her 20s as downtime, it's going to affect them badly in the long term.

Because everything you read online is true, right?  ::) Nope you are wrong on this. Your 20s are still considered young, life really starts around age 30.

and I'm going to be 44 and I still admit to be living with My Parents.

That's fine. Everyone's life and situation differs.

Because everything you read online is true, right?  ::) Nope you are wrong on this. Your 20s are still considered young, life really starts around age 30.
It sounds like you didn't read the article ::). Since when does life start around 30?

It sounds like you didn't read the article ::). Since when does life start around 30?

My life started when I was born :)

My life started when I was born :)
...your life started when you were conceived.

Because everything you read online is true, right?  ::) Nope you are wrong on this. Your 20s are still considered young, life really starts around age 30.


That's the stupidest thing I heard, why would life start at 30?

and I'm going to be 44 and I still admit to be living with My Parents.


:o why?! Have you ever moved out before??

...your life started when you were conceived.


You're right! :)

You're right! :)
That makes you older than you think.

That makes you older than you think.


Yup. I guess that makes me 18 then and a legal adult lol :)

Yup. I guess that makes me 18 then and a legal adult lol :)

Guess that makes me 16  ;D

That's the stupidest thing I heard, why would life start at 30?

Because that's when you get married and have kids.

Because that's when you get married and have kids.
But not everyone gets married and has kids at 30. Some people do both earlier.

Because that's when you get married and have kids.


That's probably the stupidest thing I've heard (no offence), why does having kids and getting married means that your life starts then, not everyone does that! ???

Because that's when you get married and have kids.

So if I never get married and have kids I don't have a life?  ???

So if I never get married and have kids I don't have a life?  ???


Using their logic, then yes ;D

Using their logic, then yes ;D

Lmao

Yup. I guess that makes me 18 then and a legal adult lol :)


With that logic, I would have turned 19 in June. :P

Lmao


IKR :D it's pretty stupid

That's probably the stupidest thing I've heard (no offence), why does having kids and getting married means that your life starts then, not everyone does that! ???

You said that was "the stupidest thing" two times already. Try harder. Yes, that's when people's career really starts growing, they get married, move into houses and have kids. 30 is the year you start living.

Also FYI, people's brains don't get fully developed until around age 25. So hopefully you realize calling someone in their early 20s old is very, very stupid.  Yeah a person who's brain hasn't even fully developed yet is old.  ::)

You said that was "the stupidest thing" two times already. Try harder. Yes, that's when people's career really starts growing, they get married, move into houses and have kids. 30 is the year you start living.

Also FYI, people's brains don't get fully developed until around age 25. So hopefully you realize calling someone in their early 20s old is very, very stupid.  Yeah a person who's brain hasn't even fully developed yet is old.  ::)


Lol seriously dude?! You're pretty fun you know like how defensive you get about things I haven't even said ;D. Also i find it hilarious that your argument for people in their 20s not being old is becasue of their brain development, yet you say that your life only begins at 30 when you get kids, married etc, doesn't really add up lol ;)

(I think someone's having a bit of a quarter life crisis ;D :-X)

I’m eating cookies and milk while reading this thread  ;D

I’m eating cookies and milk while reading this thread  ;D


Nice! I'm just in class while reading this thread lol. But just remember were not really living yet, at least in Slim95s world ;D ;D

Nice! I'm just in class while reading this thread lol. But just remember were not really living yet, at least in Slim95s world ;D ;D

Lol my school has a 4 day weekend off

Yes, that's when people's career really starts growing, they get married, move into houses and have kids. 30 is the year you start living.
What? ??? ??? ???

30 is definitely NOT the age where one starts living. Do you know that people achieve those milestones much earlier right? I have many friends and others I know who have kids, have careers and are even married that are UNDER 30.

I agree with Longaotian, it does seem like you are having a quarter-life crisis. ;D

Lol my school has a 4 day weekend off


Ehh nice :). But next week, my school has a 16 day weekend off ;D

Ehh nice :). But next week, my school has a 16 day weekend off ;D

Lmao why?

35 isn’t even 20s though..


It was a joke.  :-\\


Nah, 24+ is old. You an old fogy now. Expected to have your own wife and kids by this age. It really twists your mind when you see that people age 18-20 have kids and have more responsibilities than someone in their mid 20s. Life is weird like that.


I know a girl from high school who married a rich guy and had kids right after high school (at 19). A few of my older female friends (25-27) are engaged or already got married. It's kind of scary to think about doing any of that right now, I think I need at least 5 more years of freedom. ;D


Anyone in their 20s is still fairly old though :)


When you're in your 30s+ and you come back to this post, you're going to laugh and sigh. ;D


...your life started when you were conceived.


Uh-oh, not an abortion debate in this thread. ;D


That's the stupidest thing I heard, why would life start at 30?


It's a common saying, "30 is the new 20". I can agree with it. The average first marriage age for men used to be 21/22 back in the 1960s, nowadays it is early 30s. With the recession and rising cost of living, people are delaying many rites of passage like buying a house or buying a car. These things are just not possible for most people to procure by 25, hence 30 is the new 20.


Guess that makes me 16  ;D


In Korean/Cbinese age, you guys would be 16/18, and I'm 25. In Korean age, you are 1 years old when you are born, and everyone becomes one year older on New Years Day.

Lmao why?


Government regulations lol ;D

It's a common saying, "30 is the new 20". I can agree with it. The average first marriage age for men used to be 21/22 back in the 1960s, nowadays it is early 30s. With the recession and rising cost of living, people are delaying many rites of passage like buying a house or buying a car. These things are just not possible for most people to procure by 25, hence 30 is the new 20.
I totally understand that it's a saying that people use, but what the article was saying is that 20-something folks should not want to delay their milestones too long because it can (and will) negatively impact them personally in the future.

I honestly hope that we have a better economy in a few years because, since the recession, it's been difficult to achieve those milestones.

It was a joke.  :-\\

I know a girl from high school who married a rich guy and had kids right after high school (at 19). A few of my older female friends (25-27) are engaged or already got married. It's kind of scary to think about doing any of that right now, I think I need at least 5 more years of freedom. ;D

When you're in your 30s+ and you come back to this post, you're going to laugh and sigh. ;D

Uh-oh, not an abortion debate in this thread. ;D

It's a common saying, "30 is the new 20". I can agree with it. The average first marriage age for men used to be 21/22 back in the 1960s, nowadays it is early 30s. With the recession and rising cost of living, people are delaying many rites of passage like buying a house or buying a car. These things are just not possible for most people to procure by 25, hence 30 is the new 20.

In Korean/Cbinese age, you guys would be 16/18, and I'm 25. In Korean age, you are 1 years old when you are born, and everyone becomes one year older on New Years Day.

Agreed. Spot on.

It was a joke.  :-\\

I know a girl from high school who married a rich guy and had kids right after high school (at 19). A few of my older female friends (25-27) are engaged or already got married. It's kind of scary to think about doing any of that right now, I think I need at least 5 more years of freedom. ;D

When you're in your 30s+ and you come back to this post, you're going to laugh and sigh. ;D

Uh-oh, not an abortion debate in this thread. ;D

It's a common saying, "30 is the new 20". I can agree with it. The average first marriage age for men used to be 21/22 back in the 1960s, nowadays it is early 30s. With the recession and rising cost of living, people are delaying many rites of passage like buying a house or buying a car. These things are just not possible for most people to procure by 25, hence 30 is the new 20.

In Korean/Cbinese age, you guys would be 16/18, and I'm 25. In Korean age, you are 1 years old when you are born, and everyone becomes one year older on New Years Day.


In Vietnam, you're (me, you, and everyone else) like a year, or two, older!  :D

Ha good joke (I hope that was a joke). No, no they aren't old. They aren't even middle aged yet.  :)


Lol funny you should mention that, today my boyfriend (who's 20) told me that I was "almost 25, almost middle-aged, a middle-aged young person". A middle aged young person? What the hell?!  ;D ;D ;D


I totally understand that it's a saying that people use, but what the article was saying is that 20-something folks should not want to delay their milestones too long because it can (and will) negatively impact them personally in the future.

I honestly hope that we have a better economy in a few years because, since the recession, it's been difficult to achieve those milestones.


I think I watched a TED talk about that. You might be delaying life to 30, but your biological clock is certainly not waiting.  :o


In Vietnam, you're (me, you, and everyone else) like a year, or two, older!  :D


Ah, so it's the same as Korea/China? In Korea, I think everyone gains a year on New Years Day (1st of January), while in China everyone gains a year on Chinese New Years (or I might have got that backwards). Is Vietnamese age the same?

In India/South Asia, you add 1 year to your age, sort of. Instead of saying "I'm 24 years old", you say "I'm on my 25th year". Technically, it's not different: when you're born, you're 0 years old, but you're living your first year of life, so you're on your "1st year". :P

I think I watched a TED talk about that. You might be delaying life to 30, but your biological clock is certainly not waiting.  :o
Yeah, and that's what some people don't realize. It's why someone's 20s is very important because it shapes them what they could be like in the future. A biological clock is not something to waste.

Uh-oh, not an abortion debate in this thread. ;D

We shall kept away from that subject.

What? ??? ??? ???

30 is definitely NOT the age where one starts living. Do you know that people achieve those milestones much earlier right? I have many friends and others I know who have kids, have careers and are even married that are UNDER 30.

I agree with Longaotian, it does seem like you are having a quarter-life crisis. ;D



I mean... A girl in my class had her first baby when she was about to turn 13. She's just shy of 20, and she is already a mother to a 7-year-old and a 3-year-old. I'm old enough to have a child in the second grade and that is mind boggling!  :o

That's fine. Everyone's life and situation differs.


I would've gotten my own apartment but I don't make enough money to do so and I'm a cart attendant at a supermarket and live on Social Security.

It sounds like you didn't read the article ::). Since when does life start around 30?


life starts when you're out the womb of your mother.

life starts when you're out the womb of your mother.

...your life started when you were conceived.

:o why?! Have you ever moved out before??


No I haven't, I don't make enough money. My Father years ago was thinking about selling the house but he don't want to because we have a lot of good conveniences in our neighborhood which is a good thing for all of us.

Because that's when you get married and have kids.


My Parents got married in their 20's.

When I was around 20 I thought I was old too. Now that I'm 30, I can see how young I still was. At 20, I was still mostly playing video games, partying and stuff like that, but now I'm just too busy. Honestly, I haven't even had a chance to play my games for weeks.

I can't remember the '90s either and I was born just after summer '97. I have very cloudy and faded memories of jumping on a bunch of scrapped present wrappers on parties and going dipping in a pool in the tropical conditions (i spent the first 3 years of my life on an island) in the '90s
I was born in 1996, and because my memory is so good, in some ways, I might as well been born in 1995. Hell, maybe even 1994, albeit a 1994-born with like, memories that only started at 4 or something, like someone I used to know.

Nice! I'm just in class while reading this thread lol. But just remember were not really living yet, at least in Slim95s world ;D ;D


I've been reading your comments on this thread, and I have to say, you have no idea what you are talking about. You don't realize that everyone's lives and circumstances are different. Perhaps due to certain financial circumstances, someone may live with their parents until their mid-late 20s. Secondly, there are plenty of people who settle on a career choice in their 30s, and plenty of people already with careers who make career changes later in life. When it comes to marriage, as Slowpoke mentioned, the average marriage age is around the early 30s range. You shouldn't make assumptions or think ill of someone simply because they don't fit YOUR age expectations.

What? ??? ??? ???

30 is definitely NOT the age where one starts living. Do you know that people achieve those milestones much earlier right? I have many friends and others I know who have kids, have careers and are even married that are UNDER 30.

I agree with Longaotian, it does seem like you are having a quarter-life crisis. ;D


Your friends DO NOT represent everyone (or even most people) in their 20s! Why don't you realize that? Not everyone leads perfect lives where they can acchieve success before they turn 30. This is NOT how the real world works! People's lives are too complex to be confined by your age expectations. So what? People who discover new things about themselves, new dreams, new passions, new career goals, or even love, should just give up simply because they are "too old"? Maybe you should just speak for yourself, if you are going to continue to believe all this crap.

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Your friends DO NOT represent everyone (or even most people) in their 20s! Why don't you realize that? Not everyone leads perfect lives where they can achieve success before they turn 30. This is NOT how the real world works! People's lives are too complex to be confined by your age expectations. So what? People who discover new things about themselves, new dreams, new passions, new career goals, or even love, should just give up simply because they are "too old"? Maybe you should just speak for yourself if you are going to continue to believe all this crap.
Oh, I know they don't. Anyone can achieve success at any age. I was just telling Slim that life doesn't begin around 30 considering that people have their goals planned and even achieve them long before that age.

Now, the main reason why some people have had a setback in achieving their goals is due to the economy barely recovering the recession.

I mean... A girl in my class had her first baby when she was about to turn 13. She's just shy of 20, and she is already a mother to a 7-year-old and a 3-year-old. I'm old enough to have a child in the second grade and that is mind boggling!  :o


She had not one, but two teen pregnancies? :o Poor girl... I wonder how her children are doing.

I wanted to clarify some things regarding this discussion. While I DO have friends and know others in their 20s that are married and have kids, they definitely DON'T represent the majority by any means. I have friends and know people who have a career, but they don't have kids and are not married. I have friends and know people who have kids, but they don't have a career and are not married. I have friends and know people who are married, but they don't have kids and don't have a career.

Now, I also have friends and know folks who have a career and are married, but they don't have kids. I have friends and know folks who are married and have kids, but they don't have a career. I even have friends and know folks who have a career and have kids, but they are not married. I have very few friends and know people who have all 3 milestones.

Now as for myself, I'm actually in the same position as some others on here. I have been struggling to find love for quite some time, and I even took a break to focus on school. Now that I'm done. I can get back finding love despite that it been a difficult task.

Now, I wanted to talk about on why people have not been able to achieve their goals. Going back to what Slowpoke stated. For one, thanks to the recession it has been difficult to find a job especially one with decent pay. There are lots of folks out there who are barely making ends meet to the point where they can't buy a new car or other important things. Also with the cost of living increasing throughout the years, it has been hard for most folks to afford a down payment for a house or an apartment. It's also why people have been pushing back to have children and don't plan to have any until any their finances are in order.

Just imagine had the recession not happened most of us here would at least own an apartment, have a decent job with money and have a new car.

When I was around 20 I thought I was old too. Now that I'm 30, I can see how young I still was. At 20, I was still mostly playing video games, partying and stuff like that, but now I'm just too busy. Honestly, I haven't even had a chance to play my games for weeks.


So you don't have time to play video games anymore?

So you don't have time to play video games anymore?


This is why the Switch was invented.

You said that was "the stupidest thing" two times already. Try harder. Yes, that's when people's career really starts growing, they get married, move into houses and have kids. 30 is the year you start living.

Also FYI, people's brains don't get fully developed until around age 25. So hopefully you realize calling someone in their early 20s old is very, very stupid.  Yeah a person who's brain hasn't even fully developed yet is old.  ::)

Getting Married and having kids doesn't constitute "living". Not everybody does or for some people beed to get married and/or have kids. Its a life choice not mandatory.

Because everything you read online is true, right?  ::) Nope you are wrong on this. Your 20s are still considered young, life really starts around age 30.

It depends on period of 20s you're talking about. Because early 20s are way different then late 20s. Early 20s is like an extension of your adolescence of sorts while tge late 20s is just a precursor to your 30s, theres hardly a difference there.

But not everyone gets married and has kids at 30. Some people do both earlier.

IF thats the path they go down. Alot of people perfer one or the other or neither

Getting Married and having kids doesn't constitute "living". Not everybody does or for some people beed to get married and/or have kids. Its a life choice not mandatory.


That was my point aswell, he just didn't wanna hear any of it ::)

IF that's the path they go down. A lot of people prefer one or the other or neither
That too! OTT, I think we're all on the same point that life definitely doesn't begin at 30 that Slim is claiming.  ;D ::)

That was my point aswell, he just didn't wanna hear any of it ::)

I understood where you were coming from. I actually meant to say "don't need" not "beed"  ;D

That too! OTT, I think we're all on the same point that life definitely doesn't begin at 30 that Slim is claiming.  ;D ::)

Exactly!

I've been reading your comments on this thread, and I have to say, you have no idea what you are talking about. You don't realize that everyone's lives and circumstances are different. Perhaps due to certain financial circumstances, someone may live with their parents until their mid-late 20s. Secondly, there are plenty of people who settle on a career choice in their 30s, and plenty of people already with careers who make career changes later in life. When it comes to marriage, as Slowpoke mentioned, the average marriage age is around the early 30s range. You shouldn't make assumptions or think ill of someone simply because they don't fit YOUR age expectations.

This. I totally agree. So many idiots in this thread.


When I was around 20 I thought I was old too. Now that I'm 30, I can see how young I still was. At 20, I was still mostly playing video games, partying and stuff like that, but now I'm just too busy. Honestly, I haven't even had a chance to play my games for weeks.

Exactly

This. I totally agree. So many idiots in this thread.
How are we stupid? We're just saying that life doesn't start at 30. Besides, there are even folks out there who still party and play videos games while they have careers, children and own a place. The same thing is true for those in their 20s.

This. I totally agree. So many idiots in this thread.



It's really really obvious that you are don't want to feel old and trying to make yourself feel younger by saying that your life hasn't started yet and won't until you turn 30. :-X

....at least that's the way it seems

It's really really obvious that you are don't want to feel old and trying to make yourself feel younger by saying that your life hasn't started yet and won't until you turn 30. :-X

....at least that's the way it seems
That's how I'm seeing it too. Life can start for people at any age. I don't know why he thinks it begins at 30. Yeah, I understand that thanks to the Recession, some achievements had been pushed back; however, that doesn't mean it's impossible and some folks have already obtained them even before reaching 30.

This. I totally agree. So many idiots in this thread.

No you're just another sheep following society's b.s rules. If you think like this at 22 then you're in for a miserable time ahead

I remember "Come my lady, come, come, my lady, you're my butterfly, sugar, baby!"  ;D

The song probably was released in 2000, but was still popular in early 2001!  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(

This. I totally agree. So many idiots in this thread.


Regardless of what you think, it's pretty rude to call other people "idiots" just because they have a different opinion.

Regardless of what you think, it's pretty rude to call other people "idiots" just because they have a different opinion.


That's exactly what I was thinking, it's pretty rude.

He always thinks his opinion is right and never wants to hear anybody else's thoughts, even though from my observations 90% of the time he holds different opinions to everyone else :P

Regardless of what you think, it's pretty rude to call other people "idiots" just because they have a different opinion.


Exactly, people can form their own opinion and not all people's beliefs can be the same as yours.

I saw Freddy vs. Jason (2003) a few hours ago. Very early 00's. It was a different time!  ;D  ;D  ;D

I saw Freddy vs. Jason (2003) a few hours ago. Very early 00's. It was a different time!  ;D  ;D  ;D
That film is on my list to view!

I don't remember the early 2000's. I was born around that time period.  ;D ;D

That's how I'm seeing it too. Life can start for people at any age. I don't know why he thinks it begins at 30. Yeah, I understand that thanks to the Recession, some achievements had been pushed back; however, that doesn't mean it's impossible and some folks have already obtained them even before reaching 30.

What does it even mean, "life starts?" You can't apply an age to that. Seriously. If someone feels their life is complete once they've had children, or gotten married, or landed their dream job, or whatever other life event could occur, that can only apply to their life and no one else's.

I don't remember the early 2000's. I was born around that time period.  ;D ;D


Which year if you don't mind me asking? ???

What does it even mean, "life starts?" You can't apply an age to that. Seriously. If someone feels their life is complete once they've had children, or gotten married, or landed their dream job, or whatever other life events could occur, that can only apply to their life and no one else's.
I apologize for this very late response. I just saw as I re-read this topic.

I agree that one can't apply an age to live events because they can happen at any time whether someone is young or old. That's why I was confused on why Slim said that life starts at 30 when it doesn't.

I agree that one can't apply an age to live events because they can happen at any time whether someone is young or old. That's why I was confused on why Slim said that life starts at 30 when it doesn't.

Why are you bringing this up after two months?? ;D ;D ;D Almost like you were specifically looking for something to argue about with me again.

Oh and to reply to your post, yes life can definitely start at 30. This is when all the important things in life begin. 30 is like the new 20. That's when life truly begins. 30 these days is still considered young.

And again, don't know why you wanna drag this topic on two months later for no reason. But you do you I guess lol.

Why are you bringing this up after two months?? ;D ;D ;D Almost like you were specifically looking for something to argue about with me again.

Oh and to reply to your post, yes life can definitely start at 30. This is when all the important things in life begin. 30 is like the new 20. That's when life truly begins. 30 these days is still considered young.

And again, don't know why you wanna drag this topic on two months later for no reason. But you do you I guess lol.
I was responding to what Rocinante said, and I didn't even see her statement until just about 10 minutes ago.

So, if you're saying life starts at 30? Do you mean that at 30, it gets interesting or boring?

Why are you bringing this up after two months?? ;D ;D ;D Almost like you were specifically looking for something to argue about with me again.

Oh and to reply to your post, yes life can definitely start at 30. This is when all the important things in life begin. 30 is like the new 20. That's when life truly begins. 30 these days is still considered young.

And again, don't know why you wanna drag this topic on two months later for no reason. But you do you I guess lol.


I think it's ironic that you have a problem with UltraGameDog reviving a thread, when you yourself have stated in the past that reviving old threads is good and it can be interesting to reread old posts. Guess it's only good if it's about a 'Late 2008' shift, huh.

I think it's ironic that you have a problem with UltraGameDog reviving a thread, when you yourself have stated in the past that reviving old threads is good and it can be interesting to reread old posts. Guess it's only good if it's about a 'Late 2008' shift, huh.

No, reviving threads is great, if it is not used for arguing about an insignificant topic that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread... What exactly do you find ironic about that? If this thread is revived to talk about the early 2000s or something, that's great. Reviving threads is good if we are talking about insightful stuff or things related to the topic, not insignificant arguments just to bring something up from two months ago. There's a huge difference, so I'm not sure where you're getting at.

So, if you're saying life starts at 30? Do you mean that at 30, it gets interesting or boring?

I mean that for me, around age 30 I plan to get married, dive deep into my career, etc. I think it will get interesting personally. But I also agree that life can begin whenever you want it to and everyone has different experiences and ways of thinking of it. For some it's 20, for some 25, for some 30, etc. For me the magic number is 30. The only reason I brought this up in the first place was to not make a user feel bad for being in their 30s because its not bad.

No, reviving threads is great, if it is not used for arguing about an insignificant topic that has nothing to do with the topic of the thread... What exactly do you find ironic about that? If this thread is revived to talk about the early 2000s or something, that's great. Reviving threads is good if we are talking about insightful stuff or things related to the topic, not insignificant arguments just to bring something up from two months ago. There's a huge difference, so I'm not sure where you're getting at.
Well again, I only responded because of what Rocinante said and I agree with her.


I mean that for me, around age 30 I plan to get married, dive deep into my career, etc. I think it will get interesting personally. But I also agree that life can begin whenever you want it to and everyone has different experiences and ways of thinking of it. For some, it's 20, for some 25, for some 30, etc. For me, the magic number is 30. The only reason I brought this up in the first place was to not make a user feel bad for being in their 30s because it's not bad.
I wish you have said that 2 months ago that you were talking about yourself. You made it sound like that life starts at 30 for everyone, and that their 20s were preparation for the real world which is why I and a few others were confused by your post. I do agree though that one being in his/her 30s is not bad at all unless they are personally struggling.

Oh and one more time, I hope you understand that just because one decides to settle down doesn't mean that his or her life will be boring. There are adolescents, people in their 20s and so on, with children or none, married or not who go out and have fun in every way possible.

People who remember the entire early 2000s are in the minority now ;D  mach!ne_he@d come back!!

People who remember the entire early 2000s are in the minority now ;D  mach!ne_he@d come back!!
Ain't that sad? :(. This is going to make everyone feel old. ;D ;D ;D

People who remember the entire early 2000s are in the minority now ;D  mach!ne_he@d come back!!

There are now more people who either were born or weren't even alive during the early 2000s.

I never thought that I would need to apply for my retiree pension so early ;D.

People who remember the entire early 2000s are in the minority now ;D  mach!ne_he@d come back!!

I remember the entire early 2000s clearly as I was 5 when they started.

Well again, I only responded because of what Rocinante said and I agree with her.
I wish you have said that 2 months ago that you were talking about yourself. You made it sound like that life starts at 30 for everyone, and that their 20s were preparation for the real world which is why I and a few others were confused by your post. I do agree though that one being in his/her 30s is not bad at all unless they are personally struggling.

Oh and one more time, I hope you understand that just because one decides to settle down doesn't mean that his or her life will be boring. There are adolescents, people in their 20s and so on, with children or none, married or not who go out and have fun in every way possible.

Yeah of course I was talking about myself. Everyone has different experiences and can go along life how they want. And absolutely it doesn't mean life gets boring. Anyone can have fun, old or young.

I can't remember 2000/1 but I can remember things from 2002 & 2003 :) :P

I can't remember it at all! Just wait for the 2013 babies.

Like they were yesterday! It was my teenage years after all.  :D

Like they were yesterday! It was my teenage years after all.  :D


Like they didn't exist

Like they didn't exist

??? What do you mean?

??? What do you mean?

Just a heads up, SkittlesCat is a 9 year old :-X.

Just a heads up, SkittlesCat is a 9 year old :-X.

If that's true then that's waaayyy too young to be on here...

If that's true then that's waaayyy too young to be on here...

I agree 100%.

If that's true then that's waaayyy too young to be on here...

I am9 years 7 months 27 days
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