How long do you think the 2000s nostalgia phase will last? With Early 2000s and to an extend mid 2000s nostalgia noticeably in motion now, I honestly don't know. I won't pay attention to much Late 2000s nostalgia if not personal memories, R&B and YouTube. I want Early 2000s nostalgia to be the full force. 2004-2005 is the limit for me.

The majority of my childhood took place in the mid-late 2000s, but I grew up with early 2000s stuff as well during that time, so I'll be enjoying all of it when 2000s nostalgia takes place.

I don't know but I don't think early 2000s nostalgia has started yet. The YouTube comments and online fads don't really count. And please don't use that awful Meghan Trainor song as an example. We are still on 1990s nostalgia. The 00s nostalgia will come when the 2020s begin. I am of course nostalgic for the 2000s as I have been for a long time, but the world is not yet.

Early 2000s nostalgia is already mainstream. If you looked early 2000s nostalgia on the Internet, then you would get tons of results. I'm also sure that mid 2000s nostalgia is also in place, but not a lot. We're still in 90s nostalgia if you think about it. Although, it seems to me that we're having another 90s backlash. For one thing, no one seems to take the 90s elitists seriously, as it's already proven that they're mostly late 90s babies trying to be 90s kids. However, it's still relevant to them that the mid 90s to early 2000s are still nostalgic to them. If I could predict, then 2000s nostalgia would probably come around the late 2010s or early 2020s.

What I find really strange is that by an overwhelming margin, people seem to be specifically reminiscing about the early 2000s and not just the 2000s. No other decade sub-era seems to get distinguished on its own quite to the same degree as the early 2000s. When people reminisced about the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s; they hardly ever added the extra prefix, even though usually some parts of the decade were much more influential than others (I.e., 60s nostalgia is mostly late 60s and even early 70s, but early 60s is almost strictly categorized with 50s nostalgia). Even culture as old as late 1998 and new as 2005 get molded with the "early 2000s."

What I find really strange is that by an overwhelming margin, people seem to be specifically reminiscing about the early 2000s and not just the 2000s. No other decade sub-era seems to get distinguished on its own quite to the same degree as the early 2000s. When people reminisced about the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s; they hardly ever added the extra prefix, even though usually some parts of the decade were much more influential than others (I.e., 60s nostalgia is mostly late 60s and even early 70s, but early 60s is almost strictly categorized with 50s nostalgia). Even culture as old as late 1998 and new as 2005 get molded with the "early 2000s."


I tend to think that early 2000s nostalgia is rather like 2000-2003, although there is some mid 2000s nostalgia that's coming in.

Once the genie is out of the bottle it will be hard to put back in. We still see 1970s and 1980s nostalgia. Not much 1960s online but I'm sure it's there IRL.

What I find really strange is that by an overwhelming margin, people seem to be specifically reminiscing about the early 2000s and not just the 2000s. No other decade sub-era seems to get distinguished on its own quite to the same degree as the early 2000s. When people reminisced about the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s; they hardly ever added the extra prefix, even though usually some parts of the decade were much more influential than others (I.e., 60s nostalgia is mostly late 60s and even early 70s, but early 60s is almost strictly categorized with 50s nostalgia). Even culture as old as late 1998 and new as 2005 get molded with the "early 2000s."


I guess people are talking about a time period that felt similar to the early 2000s. 1998/1999? Sure I can group that in with the early 2000s, but not 2005. Especially since early 2000s culture ends by late 2003.


I assume 2000s nostalgia will last for most if not all of the 2020s and probably early 2030s. We're already seeing quite a bit of early 2000s nostalgia in articles, forums, youtube videos, fashion etc, but by 2020s I assume it'd be in full force. Harry Potter remakes, PS2 games being remade, spiky hair/frosted tips making the comeback, Neo Y2K Future aesthetic, perhaps Funky House revival and more.

What I find really strange is that by an overwhelming margin, people seem to be specifically reminiscing about the early 2000s and not just the 2000s. No other decade sub-era seems to get distinguished on its own quite to the same degree as the early 2000s. When people reminisced about the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s; they hardly ever added the extra prefix, even though usually some parts of the decade were much more influential than others (I.e., 60s nostalgia is mostly late 60s and even early 70s, but early 60s is almost strictly categorized with 50s nostalgia). Even culture as old as late 1998 and new as 2005 get molded with the "early 2000s."

Speaking of this, it's really annoying me that kids are doing the same thing they did with the 90s a while back online. Calling any song from the 2000s "early 2000s". It's bad enough they say songs from 2004 and 2005 are early 2000s but this one person said a song from 2007 is early 2000s and believe it or not, someone said a song from 2010 is early 2000s. This obviously makes no sense. They don't seem to get how decades work. This is just like a couple years ago when people were calling songs from the mid 2000s "90s" now they switched to the early 2000s. It's very annoying.

I guess people are talking about a time period that felt similar to the early 2000s. 1998/1999? Sure I can group that in with the early 2000s, but not 2005. Especially since early 2000s culture ends by late 2003.


I assume 2000s nostalgia will last for most if not all of the 2020s and probably early 2030s. We're already seeing quite a bit of early 2000s nostalgia in articles, forums, youtube videos, fashion etc, but by 2020s I assume it'd be in full force. Harry Potter remakes, PS2 games being remade, spiky hair/frosted tips making the comeback, Neo Y2K Future aesthetic, perhaps Funky House revival and more.

Again, I don't see it apart from dumb YouTube comments like I mentioned above. The nostalgia thing happens every 20 years when the decade looks retro. So I bet in 2020 2000s nostalgia will start to be in full force.

Speaking of this, it's really annoying me that kids are doing the same thing they did with the 90s a while back online. Calling any song from the 2000s "early 2000s". It's bad enough they say songs from 2004 and 2005 are early 2000s but this one person said a song from 2007 is early 2000s and believe it or not, someone said a song from 2010 is early 2000s. This obviously makes no sense. They don't seem to get how decades work. This is just like a couple years ago when people were calling songs from the mid 2000s "90s" now they switched to the early 2000s. It's very annoying.


The only way in which that makes any sense is if, by early 2000s, they're referring to the century (or millennium) and not the decade, since to be fair, the language is technically ambiguous. Still, the fact that late 1998 and 1999 culture also get constantly dubbed early 2000s simultaneously is just bizarre. I guess you could say late 1997 to 2006 (aka the Web 1.0/spiky haired/Tony Blair decade) really is its own secret decade, similar to the 10 years that followed World War II, but as you can already tell by my description that's just a subjective framework that isn't grounded in a factual chronological period.

The only way in which that makes any sense is if, by early 2000s, they're referring to the century (or millennium) and not the decade, since to be fair, the language is technically ambiguous. Still, the fact that late 1998 and 1999 culture also get constantly dubbed early 2000s simultaneously is just bizarre. I guess you could say late 1997 to 2006 (aka the Web 1.0/spiky haired/Tony Blair decade) really is its own secret decade, similar to the 10 years that followed World War II, but as you can already tell by my description that's just a subjective framework that isn't grounded in a factual chronological period.

Yeah but nobody talks about centuries when referencing recent pop culture. Even if they did, it still wouldn't make sense because we would still be in the early 2000s century-wise. I think they are just ignorant kids like the "90s kids" from a few years ago.  ;D

What I find really strange is that by an overwhelming margin, people seem to be specifically reminiscing about the early 2000s and not just the 2000s. No other decade sub-era seems to get distinguished on its own quite to the same degree as the early 2000s. When people reminisced about the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s; they hardly ever added the extra prefix,


This is because the 90's kid and even early 2000's kid elitists have made people ashamed of the post-2003 era and the fact there's a lot of backlash against the core 2000's. On the history channel or maybe another one I'm thinking of, the decades like the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's have been documented, and one of the documentaries was titled as "the 90's, the last great decade for pop culture?". Even my parents (who are early X) say that the 90's was the last full decade with a cultural identity, especially when it comes to fashion. I'm going to be honest though, the kid culture throughout the 90's, early/mid 2000's, and 2010's have been equally good IMO. Mainstream culture on the other hand geared towards teens or young adults, I can see why people say the 80's and 90's were better than the 2000's on that part, but again, ONLY for those who were teens and young adults to experience the pop culture, NOT kids.

I'd say nostalgia at the minimum can start 15 years after the time period and at the maximum/cutoff it's about 25 years. But due to the social media boom around late 2003-2006, like Myspace and Youtube coming on the scene, what happened is that it caused 90's nostalgia to take off way too earlier than usual. I swear there was already huge nostalgia for the 90's all over the internet by the late 2000's. The 2000's decade has a lot of love and hate, so I doubt it'll last as long as 90's nostalgia. If anything, 2000's nostalgia will probably take off late and get lumped with the 2010's.

This is because the 90's kid and even early 2000's kid elitists have made people ashamed of the post-2003 era and the fact there's a lot of backlash against the core 2000's. On the history channel or maybe another one I'm thinking of, the decades like the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's have been documented, and one of the documentaries was titled as "the 90's, the last great decade for pop culture?". Even my parents (who are early X) say that the 90's was the last full decade with a cultural identity, especially when it comes to fashion. I'm going to be honest though, the kid culture throughout the 90's, early/mid 2000's, and 2010's have been equally good IMO. Mainstream culture on the other hand geared towards teens or young adults, I can see why people say the 80's and 90's were better than the 2000's on that part, but again, ONLY for those who were teens and young adults to experience the pop culture, NOT kids.


The 2000s and 2010s both definitely have distinct fashion identities, though.

2000:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Px0141nnif0/TbFagyt-URI/AAAAAAAADjM/Fzh0l1wRyIU/s1600/pictures-of-hairstyles-with-bangs-long-scene-hairstyle-girl.jpg

http://hairstylesweekly.com/images/2012/07/2013-Beachy-Wavy-Hairstyles-for-Guys.jpg

http://www.29.xylimited.com/291072680-2910726801-thickbox/wholesale-discount-abercrombie-fitch-hco-hollister-af-t-shirt-md180kf-t-shirts-women-fashion-fashion-clothes-accessories-and-t-s.jpg

https://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/663/59958419.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/17400000/George-Holz-Photoshoot-Cosmo-Girl-2004-avril-lavigne-17419359-326-400.jpg

2010s:

http://www.menshairstylestoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Fade-Haircut-High-Fade-With-Long-Hair.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/bc/d3/d9/bcd3d9954a735b485be27e7d7b4fb48f.jpg
("You're completely prejudiced for generalizing all fashion from the 2010s as this. We're just being our complete, individual swlves without conforming to peer pressure whatsoever.")

("You're completely prejudiced for generalizing all fashion from the 2010s as this. We're just being our complete, individual selves without conforming to peer pressure whatsoever.")


WTF!?  ???

Is that a quote by the person in the image?

The 2000s and 2010s both definitely have distinct fashion identities, though.



It's kind of different but not as different as the fashion in the respective 20th century decades were. At least I hear a lot of people say they can wear something in their closet from 2004. But it wouldn't be cool to wear something from 1976 in 1984 for example. You can correct me if I'm wrong because I don't know a lot about fashion but that's just what I hear.

The 2010s guy is hot!!  ;D

When I say early 2000s IRL I'm usually referring to 1998-2003 generally. Over here I call it Y2K era.


I'd say nostalgia at the minimum can start 15 years after the time period and at the maximum/cutoff it's about 25 years. But do to the social media boom around late 2003-2006, like Myspace and Youtube coming on the scene, what happened is that it caused 90's nostalgia to take off way too earlier than usual. I swear there was already huge nostalgia for the 90's all over the internet by the late 2000's. The 2000's decade has a lot of love and hate, so I doubt it'll last as long as 90's nostalgia. If anything, 2000's nostalgia will probably take off late and get lumped with the 2010's.


2007/2008 was when I first noticed a lot of 90s nostalgia, in the context of the fourth generation of gaming. In 2009 I posted in my first 90s nostalgia thread on another forum. It was more of a Bush and 2000s hate thread though tbh.

It's kind of different but not as different as the fashion in the respective 20th century decades were. At least I hear a lot of people say they can wear something in their closet from 2004. But it wouldn't be cool to wear something from 1976 in 1984 for example. You can correct me if I'm wrong because I don't know a lot about fashion but that's just what I hear.


Maybe if they wore something very neutral in 2004, I could believe that. But IDK, me, I wore very long shirts, jerseys, and plaid shirts, they'd go all the way down to my knee! And I wore really baggy jeans. I had a sort of 90s bowl cut going but most my friends were spiking their hair back then as far as I remember. I don't think most of that would pass in 2016. I mean, you won't look completely ridiculous, but it's not really up to date either.

Like unconventional said in the 2004 said, most people in my middle school basically dressed like this

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/wigger-15345.jpg

WTF!?  ???

Is that a quote by the person in the image?


That's just SJW Sally. I already invoked her to satirize 2010s millennial culture here and here. I guess either you forgot about those skits or you just find the above post really unfunny. I can understand either way.


The 2010s guy is hot!!  ;D

:-When I say early 2000s IRL I'm usually referring to 1998-2003 generally. Over here I call it Y2K era.

I understand calling 1998 Y2K-era (though I still don't understand why so many people leave out late 1997 from that era; was the premiere of Dawson's Creek and introduction of Teen People Magazine at the start of the year really that earth-shattering?) but is it really early 2000s? That's exactly my original point. The only way it really makes sense to categorize something from one era with the following era is if it was hardly of any cultural significance until the next era began. 1998 is still 90s, even if you consider it culturally closer to 2003 than to 1993.

2007/2008 was when I first noticed a lot of 90s nostalgia, in the context of the fourth generation of gaming. In 2009 I posted in my first 90s nostalgia thread on another forum. It was more of a Bush and 2000s hate thread though tbh.


Yeah, I sort of remember there being a fair amount of 90s nostalgia in the late 2000s, coming to think about it. Not a whole lot, but it was still about the time that decade got mentioned in several conversations for being the "good old days."

That's just SJW Sally. I already invoked her to satirize 2010s millennial culture here and here. I guess either you forgot about those skits or you just find the above post really unfunny. I can understand either way.

:-2000s? That's exactly my original point. The only way it really makes sense to categorize something from one era with the following era is if it was hardly of any cultural significance until the next era began. 1998 is still 90s, even if you consider it culturally closer to 2003 than to 1993.

Yeah, I sort of remember there being a fair amount of 90s nostalgia in the late 2000s, coming to think about it. Not a whole lot, but it was still about the time that decade got mentioned in several conversations for being the "good old days."


Haha I get ya  ;)

Early 2000s I think has become the catch-all for the millennium era, or the early Internet years. I wouldn't call something that's obviously not early 2000s as such (e.g. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow are late 90s), but it's probably not a huge offense to say that the Indigo league of Pokémon is early 2000s, even if it aired late 1998 - 2000, a longer period of time in the late 90s than the early 2000s.

Oh, and this was the thread I was talking about: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/who-here-misses-the-1990s-26771806/?page=1

I came across it a few days ago. I have a post there, and not the OP haha. I misremembered it bring a Bush hate thread. It's a thread from February 2009.

Also I distinctly remember teasing my cousin's cousin in the summer of 2008 for being born in 2000 and "missing out on the 90s". Not something I made a huge deal of, but I remember mentioning it.

Haha I get ya  ;)

Early 2000s I think has become the catch-all for the millennium era, or the early Internet years. I wouldn't call something that's obviously not early 2000s as such (e.g. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow are late 90s), but it's probably not a huge offense to say that the Indigo league of Pokémon is early 2000s, even if it aired late 1998 - 2000, a longer period of time in the late 90s than the early 2000s.

Oh, and this was the thread I was talking about: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/who-here-misses-the-1990s-26771806/?page=1

I came across it a few days ago. I have a post there, and not the OP haha. I misremembered it bring a Bush hate thread. It's a thread from February 2009.


You happen to be called turdo_burdo on Gamespot? Damn, I thought I had the most embarrassing name on the Internet back in the old days?

You happen to be called turdo_burdo on Gamespot? Damn, I thought I had the most embarrassing name on the Internet back in the old days?


Dude was a fellow online Nintendo fanboy friend of mine, but it's not me. ;D

Who were you there?

I remember the initial phase of online '90s nostalgia in 2009. I remember being a bit of a tagalong kid and saying things like, "This song reminds me of my preschool days."

Early 2000s I think has become the catch-all for the millennium era, or the early Internet years. I wouldn't call something that's obviously not early 2000s as such (e.g. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow are late 90s), but it's probably not a huge offense to say that the Indigo league of Pokémon is early 2000s, even if it aired late 1998 - 2000, a longer period of time in the late 90s than the early 2000s.

The problem is that by that logic, you would, for instance, call disco from 1978 and 1979 "early 80s music," late 80s hair bands "early 90s music," and the Beatles' Abbey Road an "early 70s album." Unless you're going by The Early 90s Guy's spirit of 1969/1978/1990/1999/2011 theory, it's really pretty odd to be extending the boundaries of a small chronological sub-period to the point that it's nearly its own entire decade. I can understand categorizing the very late 90s and early 2000s its own cultural era, I just wish people would be a little more accurate when using terms like "late 90s" and "early 2000s," which refer to fairly objective spans of times, as opposed to being artificially drawn boundaries independent of where in the decade the starting and ending points are.

A good example, from my perspective at least, is the transition between the late 70s and early 80s. For the most part, the late 70s are hardly distinguishable culturally from the mid-70s; even though it's late 70s, 1978 was pretty much more similar to 1975 than it was to the end of the decade. The truly transitional year was 1979, during which disco declined and new wave and post-disco became totally dominant, new shows like Taxi and The Dukes of Hazzard were the biggest staples of television, video games became more than just Pong, and Margaret Thatcher became the British Prime Minister, kicking the neoliberal revolution into full gear. Until the transitional year of 1983, however, not a whole lot really changed about popular culture; the hot new trends from 1979 like new wave and second-generation video games were a bit more established, but the overall feel was quite consistent, regardless. What I'm getting at is that if I had to define the 70s and 80s strictly by cultural eras, I would say 1970-1974 was the early 70s, 1975-1978 was the classic 70s, 1979-1982 was the transitional era between the 70s and 80s, and 1983 was the start of the classic 80s. The "late 70s" and early 80s would essentially be combined into a single era, which predominantly had its roots in the late 70s but whose peak was more confined to the 1980s than the 1970s. I don't like just calling it early 80s because it still feels extremely tied to the 1970s and started then, anyway. However, it feels equally wrong to call it the late 70s when it's a poor representation of the actual late 70s (including 1977 and 1978, or even late 1976, depending on your definition). If I simply went by the early/mid/late formula, I'd simply call 1970-1972 the early 70s, 1973-1976 the mid-70s, and 1977-1979 the late 70s, even if the cultural cutoff dates weren't that exact.

I think a lot of people, like Jordan, for example, feel the same way about the transition from the 90s to the 2000s as I do about the 70s-80s transition (I'll at least give him credit for the fluidity with which he names 1998-2002, even if he does use chronological sub-eras to refer to it). In a similar fashion, too, lots of music from as far back as late 1978, such as Blondie's Parallel Lines album and The Cars' self-titled debut, but especially some of the synthpop and new wave from 1979 like "Pop Muzik" and "The Logical Song" appear primarily at 80s nostalgia parties and not 70s ones.

Maybe if they wore something very neutral in 2004, I could believe that. But IDK, me, I wore very long shirts, jerseys, and plaid shirts, they'd go all the way down to my knee! And I wore really baggy jeans. I had a sort of 90s bowl cut going but most my friends were spiking their hair back then as far as I remember. I don't think most of that would pass in 2016. I mean, you won't look completely ridiculous, but it's not really up to date either.

Like unconventional said in the 2004 said, most people in my middle school basically dressed like this

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/wigger-15345.jpg


Eminem generation, ha!

Maybe if they wore something very neutral in 2004, I could believe that. But IDK, me, I wore very long shirts, jerseys, and plaid shirts, they'd go all the way down to my knee! And I wore really baggy jeans. I had a sort of 90s bowl cut going but most my friends were spiking their hair back then as far as I remember. I don't think most of that would pass in 2016. I mean, you won't look completely ridiculous, but it's not really up to date either.

Like unconventional said in the 2004 said, most people in my middle school basically dressed like this

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/wigger-15345.jpg


Wow, kids in your middle school in 2004 dressed pretty much exactly the same as kids in my middle school did in 1999! Maybe the mid '00s weren't as different from the Y2K era as we thought! :o

Forever (or at least I want it to last that long), and I want 2010s fashion gone for good, like the two nukes America dropped on Japan.

The 2010s guy is hot!!  ;D

When I say early 2000s IRL I'm usually referring to 1998-2003 generally. Over here I call it Y2K era.

2007/2008 was when I first noticed a lot of 90s nostalgia, in the context of the fourth generation of gaming. In 2009 I posted in my first 90s nostalgia thread on another forum. It was more of a Bush and 2000s hate thread though tbh.


Hell no! 2000s youth hottest youth!

The problem is that by that logic, you would, for instance, call disco from 1978 and 1979 "early 80s music," late 80s hair bands "early 90s music," and the Beatles' Abbey Road an "early 70s album." Unless you're going by The Early 90s Guy's spirit of 1969/1978/1990/1999/2011 theory, it's really pretty odd to be extending the boundaries of a small chronological sub-period to the point that it's nearly its own entire decade. I can understand categorizing the very late 90s and early 2000s its own cultural era, I just wish people would be a little more accurate when using terms like "late 90s" and "early 2000s," which refer to fairly objective spans of times, as opposed to being artificially drawn boundaries independent of where in the decade the starting and ending points are.

A good example, from my perspective at least, is the transition between the late 70s and early 80s. For the most part, the late 70s are hardly distinguishable culturally from the mid-70s; even though it's late 70s, 1978 was pretty much more similar to 1975 than it was to the end of the decade. The truly transitional year was 1979, during which disco declined and new wave and post-disco became totally dominant, new shows like Taxi and The Dukes of Hazzard were the biggest staples of television, video games became more than just Pong, and Margaret Thatcher became the British Prime Minister, kicking the neoliberal revolution into full gear. Until the transitional year of 1983, however, not a whole lot really changed about popular culture; the hot new trends from 1979 like new wave and second-generation video games were a bit more established, but the overall feel was quite consistent, regardless. What I'm getting at is that if I had to define the 70s and 80s strictly by cultural eras, I would say 1970-1974 was the early 70s, 1975-1978 was the classic 70s, 1979-1982 was the transitional era between the 70s and 80s, and 1983 was the start of the classic 80s. The "late 70s" and early 80s would essentially be combined into a single era, which predominantly had its roots in the late 70s but whose peak was more confined to the 1980s than the 1970s. I don't like just calling it early 80s because it still feels extremely tied to the 1970s and started then, anyway. However, it feels equally wrong to call it the late 70s when it's a poor representation of the actual late 70s (including 1977 and 1978, or even late 1976, depending on your definition). If I simply went by the early/mid/late formula, I'd simply call 1970-1972 the early 70s, 1973-1976 the mid-70s, and 1977-1979 the late 70s, even if the cultural cutoff dates weren't that exact.

I think a lot of people, like Jordan, for example, feel the same way about the transition from the 90s to the 2000s as I do about the 70s-80s transition (I'll at least give him credit for the fluidity with which he names 1998-2002, even if he does use chronological sub-eras to refer to it). In a similar fashion, too, lots of music from as far back as late 1978, such as Blondie's Parallel Lines album and The Cars' self-titled debut, but especially some of the synthpop and new wave from 1979 like "Pop Muzik" and "The Logical Song" appear primarily at 80s nostalgia parties and not 70s ones.


I think the 1979-1982 in that sense is similar to the 2009-2011 recession era, especially since it feels late 1979 doesn't share as many similarities to 1977 as it does to the early '80s. It would feel wrong to call 2009-2011 the late 2000s because that would be ignoring 2007 and a good chunk of 2008, but calling 2009 pop culture items like The Fame Monster or Avatar early '10s doesn't sound too egregious of a mistake, at least to me. To get back to the early 2000s, calling Enema of the State or Toy Story 2 or Super Smash Bros. (N64) early 2000s doesn't sound that egregious of a mistake. Despite them releasing in 1999, they were extremely important in defining the early 2000s.

Eminem generation, ha!


I think I'm more 50-Cent generation. His In Da Club MV in 2003 was my introduction to Yahoo! Music  ;D


Wow, kids in your middle school in 2004 dressed pretty much exactly the same as kids in my middle school did in 1999! Maybe the mid '00s weren't as different from the Y2K era as we thought! :o


Hard to believe that trend lasted as long as it did  8-P it was dominant in 2005 too, late 2006 is when I saw it taper off.


Hell no! 2000s youth hottest youth!


I had big hair in high school. The point was to look like the anime not to look hit ;D

I had big hair in high school. The point was to look like the anime not to look hit ;D


Well the anime look is way hotter than that dumb hipster look that guys have.

Well the anime look is way hotter than that dumb hipster look that guys have.


Are you gay too? The 2000s hair is usually associated with twinks and prepubescent looking guys, not really my type tbh.

Are you gay too?
Dunno, but I'm surprised by how many gay and lesbian individuals I've come across on here.
The 2000s hair is usually associated with twinks and prepubescent looking guys, not really my type tbh.
I associate 2010s hair for guys with the same in 1950s America. As someone who hates having short hair and sometimes hates being a guy, I really hate this trend. I kind of like the 2000s look on girls as well because it accentuates their femininity in an edgy yet aesthetically pleasing way. I just envy girls because they get to wear what they want, as evidenced with 2010s fashion with some cutting it short.

I think the 1979-1982 in that sense is similar to the 2009-2011 recession era, especially since it feels late 1979 doesn't share as many similarities to 1977 as it does to the early '80s. It would feel wrong to call 2009-2011 the late 2000s because that would be ignoring 2007 and a good chunk of 2008, but calling 2009 pop culture items like The Fame Monster or Avatar early '10s doesn't sound too egregious of a mistake, at least to me. To get back to the early 2000s, calling Enema of the State or Toy Story 2 or Super Smash Bros. (N64) early 2000s doesn't sound that egregious of a mistake. Despite them releasing in 1999, they were extremely important in defining the early 2000s.

The early 10s and late 00s are pretty much the same to me. Except for 2007 and some changes in technology.

The early 10s and late 00s are pretty much the same to me. Except for 2007 and some changes in technology.


Technologically, they're kinda separate. The late 2000s didn't really get a lot of hype for the iPhone nor the iPad until late 2010 or early-mid 2011.

Technologically, they're kinda separate. The late 2000s didn't really get a lot of hype for the iPhone nor the iPad until late 2010 or early-mid 2011.

Yeah I agree with that.

Technologically, they're kinda separate. The late 2000s didn't really get a lot of hype for the iPhone nor the iPad until late 2010 or early-mid 2011.


Mobile operating systems gained more power but went two ways: either be like the previous dominant mobile OS (Android) or be an extremely simplified OS (iOS) in terms of how people can interact with and manipulate it.

Mobile operating systems gained more power but went two ways: either be like the previous dominant mobile OS (Android) or be an extremely simplified OS (iOS) in terms of how people can interact with and manipulate it.


Apple probably did it simplistic because they were the first ones to make an actual smartphone OS. I think Androids are for those who seemed advanced and prefer faster phone processors.

The early 10s and late 00s are pretty much the same to me. Except for 2007 and some changes in technology.


The Bush years (late 2000s) and Obama years (early 2010s) are very distinct in my mind. Late 2008/ Early 2009 is what's bridging those two.


Dunno, but I'm surprised by how many gay and lesbian individuals I've come across on here.I associate 2010s hair for guys with the same in 1950s America. As someone who hates having short hair and sometimes hates being a guy, I really hate this trend. I kind of like the 2000s look on girls as well because it accentuates their femininity in an edgy yet aesthetically pleasing way. I just envy girls because they get to wear what they want, as evidenced with 2010s fashion with some cutting it short.


There are plenty of 2010s hairstyles that are long though  :o

The Bush years (late 2000s) and Obama years (early 2010s) are very distinct in my mind. Late 2008/ Early 2009 is what's bridging those two.

There are plenty of 2010s hairstyles that are long though  :o

Obama years was part of the late 2000s. That's why I said "except 2007".

Apple probably did it simplistic because they were the first ones to make an actual smartphone OS. I think Androids are for those who seemed advanced and prefer faster phone processors.


Apple has the faster processors according to various online benchmarks. They do everything well except value for money for those who just use it for the basics (i.e. social networking) and being friendly to semi-power users like myself.

There are plenty of 2010s hairstyles that are long though  :o


Problem is, 2010s fashion is way too damn conservative, to the point I feel like that people like the WBC have won the culture war. I love 2000s fashion that #Infinity posted about simply because it looked more sexy, youthful, energetic and provocative.

The 90s and 70s retro craze this decade reminds me of a time before computers were mainstream, and I have no emotional connection with the last millenium onwards to the past; in fact, it kind of makes me sick.

I think the 1979-1982 in that sense is similar to the 2009-2011 recession era, especially since it feels late 1979 doesn't share as many similarities to 1977 as it does to the early '80s. It would feel wrong to call 2009-2011 the late 2000s because that would be ignoring 2007 and a good chunk of 2008, but calling 2009 pop culture items like The Fame Monster or Avatar early '10s doesn't sound too egregious of a mistake, at least to me. To get back to the early 2000s, calling Enema of the State or Toy Story 2 or Super Smash Bros. (N64) early 2000s doesn't sound that egregious of a mistake. Despite them releasing in 1999, they were extremely important in defining the early 2000s.


Yeah, the 1979-1982 era is pretty similar to the Great Recession period in the way it sort of transcends decade-sensitive descriptions, although I personally think 2010 and 2011 are clearly much more tied to the 2010s than the 2000s aside from fashion, whereas the 1979-1982 age was evenly balanced between 70s and 80s influences pretty much throughout. Early 1979 leaned more towards the 70s because it was still the peak of disco, while late 1982 was definitely a bit more 80s than 70s thanks to the premieres of huge shows like Cheers, Knight Rider, and Family Ties (plus the end of older ones like Mork & Mindy), not to mention MTV being much more established than it was at its launch, yet everything in between, from the second half of 1979 to the first half of 1982, evolved quite slowly. The Y2K era and Bush '41 era similarly had distinct identities while simultaneously transcending decade-specific descriptions, but I personally think the 1979-1982 period was the most coherent of the hybrid eras; the Y2K era would be close, but 9/11 alone is enough to clearly distinguish late 2001 and 2002 from 1999 to mid-2001.

By the way, I agree with you about Enema of the State and Toy Story 2, but I wouldn't really call the original Super Smash Bros. an early 2000s game, considering not only was it released in early 1999, it became outdated as soon as Super Smash Bros. Melee came out in late 2001, well before the end of the early 2000s. It's not a horrible mistake calling it early 2000s, since it was still a popular party game in the year 2000 and early 2001, but I think it's better described as a late 90s video game all things considered. I could better accept something like the Sega Dreamcast as early 2000s, though, at least outside of Japan, where it was already out in time for the 1998 holiday season.

Dunno, but I'm surprised by how many gay and lesbian individuals I've come across on here.I associate 2010s hair for guys with the same in 1950s America. As someone who hates having short hair and sometimes hates being a guy, I really hate this trend. I kind of like the 2000s look on girls as well because it accentuates their femininity in an edgy yet aesthetically pleasing way.

Yep, my sentiments exactly. Nowadays, women are either basically unstyled or, especially the lesbian community in particular, trying to be "unique" with such repugnant looks as side buzzes, body piercings, and tattoos.

I'm shocked by how much I've come to really appreciate past decades for women's fashion. It all just seems like it was so much classier back then and wasn't forcefully defiant of anything.

http://oteea-land.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/1967-2-simplicity.jpg

https://secure.static.tumblr.com/27b9045e8d0768ae9eb9ac0e34154f2a/ftfujum/T7Wob76g5/tumblr_static_1owja1fg641wkcs8sws0ss88s_640_v2.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-bYZ-QEAoiOQ/UoWixj9YK7I/AAAAAAAAU2k/BvxXR4AX-f4/s1600/The+Heathers.png

It's just really weird because I used to see a lot of these looks as just outdated growing up in the 2000s, but now they all seem like such a breath of fresh air compared to the crap we see today. Frankly, I would be liberating to stylize myself like any of the women in the above pictures, even though those fashions were basically the strict norm back when they were around.

How can I keep 2000s nostalgia going on for 1000 years, or at least, two whole decades? I dread the 2030s, when 2010s nostalgis will take place.

Obama years was part of the late 2000s. That's why I said "except 2007".


2008 was Bush too though. Late 2006, 2007 ,and early and mid 2008. That's too large of a portion of the late 2000s that's very distinct from the early 2010s for me to say the two eras are similar. I'd go as far as to say the late 2000s actually have more in common with middle portion of the decade, than they do with the early '10s, but of course any two adjacent eras are going to have a lot in common with each other.


Apple has the faster processors according to various online benchmarks. They do everything well except value for money for those who just use it for the basics (i.e. social networking) and being friendly to semi-power users like myself.

Problem is, 2010s fashion is way too damn conservative, to the point I feel like that people like the WBC have won the culture war. I love 2000s fashion that #Infinity posted about simply because it looked more sexy, youthful, energetic and provocative.

The 90s and 70s retro craze this decade reminds me of a time before computers were mainstream, and I have no emotional connection with the last millenium onwards to the past; in fact, it kind of makes me sick.


Android is for us nerds who use Tasker and have QPython installed on our phones  ;D

It... Isn't that conservative though? I hear conservatives complaining about things like manbuns, skinny jeans and florals all the time. 2000s fashion is what felt more "macho" to me. It's not really the same thing as manly, since it's such a childish definition of manly, but most people I knew just slapped whatever sports jersey, a pair of cargo pants and called it a day. Caring too much about what you wore or the way you looked was considered gay (in a negative way). The whole reason the word "metrosexual" was coined in the 2000s is because straight men who cared about their appearance felt the need to make it clear that they were different from homosexuals. I guess the hair of the late 2000s and the lack of beards might make it appear more effeminate, but I still find it hard to call the era progressive when as late as mid-2009,  when I bought my first pair of skinny jeans, the first comment I got about them was "Really? Skinny jeans?" in a disapproving tone. I can understand your grievances about 2010s hairstyles and short hair, it's not for everybody and at this point I think I know more people who hate them than wear them, but I wouldn't really twist the 2000s into something they really weren't. 

It... Isn't that conservative though? I hear conservatives complaining about things like manbuns, skinny jeans and florals all the time. 2000s fashion is what felt more "macho" to me. It's not really the same thing as manly, since it's such a childish definition of manly, but most people I knew just slapped whatever sports jersey, a pair of cargo pants and called it a day. Caring too much about what you wore or the way you looked was considered gay (in a negative way). The whole reason the word "metrosexual" was coined in the 2000s is because straight men who cared about their appearance felt the need to make it clear that they were different from homosexuals. I guess the hair of the late 2000s and the lack of beards might make it appear more effeminate, but I still find it hard to call the era progressive when as late as mid-2009,  when I bought my first pair of skinny jeans, the first comment I got about them was "Really? Skinny jeans?" in a disapproving tone. I can understand your grievances about 2010s hairstyles and short hair, it's not for everybody and at this point I think I know more people who hate them than wear them, but I wouldn't really twist the 2000s into something they really weren't.


If my phone's charger were working, I'd screenshot this comment, convo and forum. Being the semi-power user I am, I'm currently running Linux off a flash drive since this laptop has a broken hard drive, which I then took out. I'm worried about the degredation of flash memory (this flash drive isn't designed to run operating systems as well as store data, so it could wear out quickly).

That aside, the next time I see someone recommend me a hairstyle, I don't want it to be any of the following:

"short back and sides" (death to this hairstyle; the monster from the Frankenstein book should only wear it, NO ONE ELSE)

"undercut" (making punk sell out even more)

"man bun" (low effort)
(this just reminds me of how limited guys' hairstyles and fashion is, and makes me want to beat up these lamestream people so they can expand their horizons).

The long flowy hair Harry Styles used to have is also a little boring as well for long hair; then again, not everyone may suit straight hair.

I really hate baggy jeans from the 2000s. They only made me look more fat.

So why can't we have a liberal society yet keep the hairstyles and make-up of the 2000s?

Apple has the faster processors according to various online benchmarks. They do everything well except value for money for those who just use it for the basics (i.e. social networking) and being friendly to semi-power users like myself.


I prefer Androids though, since you can't really organize it that well. It may seem like that towards other smartphones and tablets, but this is coming from a person who prefers to use desktop or laptop computers.


The 90s and 70s retro craze this decade reminds me of a time before computers were mainstream, and I have no emotional connection with the last millenium onwards to the past; in fact, it kind of makes me sick.


The 70s never really got a retro craze since the late 90s at best. I don't even count the early-mid 2000s, when The 70s Show was still on.

If my phone's charger were working, I'd screenshot this comment, convo and forum. Being the semi-power user I am, I'm currently running Linux off a flash drive since this laptop has a broken hard drive, which I then took out. I'm worried about the degredation of flash memory (this flash drive isn't designed to run operating systems as well as store data, so it could wear out quickly).

That aside, the next time I see someone recommend me a hairstyle, I don't want it to be any of the following:

"short back and sides" (death to this hairstyle; the monster from the Frankenstein book should only wear it, NO ONE ELSE)

"undercut" (making punk sell out even more)

"man bun" (low effort)
(this just reminds me of how limited guys' hairstyles and fashion is, and makes me want to beat up these lamestream people so they can expand their horizons).

The long flowy hair Harry Styles used to have is also a little boring as well for long hair; then again, not everyone may suit straight hair.

I really hate baggy jeans from the 2000s. They only made me look more fat.


Damn, that's badass! I thought about installing Ubuntu onto a flash drive, since all my scripts are for UNIX systems (I had a laptop on Ubuntu before I bought a Macbook back in the spring), and I hate having to use Windows at work and at school. That's pretty cool that you could make it work.

Try these!

http://slodive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/long-hairstyles-for-men/chris.jpg

I have no idea what it's called. I usually have zero problems friend-zoning my straight friends and not finding them attractive, but I had a big crush on this dude I met in late 2014 that had that hair  ;D

And

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Jonathan_Brandis_Wiki.jpg

One of my friends has that hair. Get a curtain cut, get some hair gel and make some of your hair strands stay upwards. It looks really good

I prefer Androids though, since you can't really organize it that well. It may seem like that towards other smartphones and tablets, but this is coming from a person who prefers to use desktop or laptop computers.
Until the 2010s, all I ever used to regularly access the web were desktops and laptops. My first two phones ran Series 40 (so had a desktop-esque UI, only with more menus) and did not have wi-fi and had a small data allowance. My sister doesn't know the pain of this, since the first computers she used regularly outside of school were the iPad, and eventually, my iPhone. Those phones do not have file managers, nor can you access files from other apps with one app (things are improving, but it's still not good enough to the point you'll need to be glued to the ecosystem to get, for instance, music files on some music creation app).


Damn, that's badass! I thought about installing Ubuntu onto a flash drive, since all my scripts are for UNIX systems (I had a laptop on Ubuntu before I bought a Macbook back in the spring), and I hate having to use Windows at work and at school. That's pretty cool that you could make it work.
One problem in four letters: UEFI. I'll need a blank hard drive if I want to be able to install Linux without having to regularly fiddle around with UEFI/Legacy in the settings.
Try these!

http://slodive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/long-hairstyles-for-men/chris.jpg

I have no idea what it's called. I usually have zero problems friend-zoning my straight friends and not finding them attractive, but I had a big crush on this dude I met in late 2014 that had that hair  ;D

And

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Jonathan_Brandis_Wiki.jpg

One of my friends has that hair. Get a curtain cut, get some hair gel and make some of your hair strands stay upwards. It looks really good

Latter looks too 90s, and I don't really like late(r) 90s haircuts because guys' hair got a bit shorter then. The former arguably could just be like early 90s, but I'm a bit more partial to that even though the dude below has a better face and hence pretty much suits his hairstyle.

Plus, what's with all the hate for emo hair on guys? We were getting more tolerant towards the 2010s (since skinny jeans were becoming acceptable), but why did this hairstyle have to go away?

Until the 2010s, all I ever used to regularly access the web were desktops and laptops. My first two phones ran Series 40 (so had a desktop-esque UI, only with more menus) and did not have wi-fi and had a small data allowance. My sister doesn't know the pain of this, since the first computers she used regularly outside of school were the iPad, and eventually, my iPhone. Those phones do not have file managers, nor can you access files from other apps with one app (things are improving, but it's still not good enough to the point you'll need to be glued to the ecosystem to get, for instance, music files on some music creation app).


Your sister's first computer outside of her school was an iPad? Man, that's a bummer. If I tend to have a little brother or sister, their first computer would probably be something like a laptop. Although, I didn't really want a brother or sister that much, but sometimes I would do. It may rude to ask, but how old is your sister?

2010's fashion is the worst. I wouldn't really care about what "the kidz" did if it wasn't for the fact that people my age have made the big decision to start dressing like this, too. Do people decide "hey, lets look tacky on purpose!!"? High rise polka dot skirts (or high rise anything, really... 8-P), mom jeans (WHY!?!?!?!?!), undercuts, side buzzes, thick glasses, beards, (occasionally) bell bottoms (8-P), weird unfitting shirts (e.g. low shirts, those potato sack-type things with the sleeves rolled up, those sweaters chicks wear), sleeveless hoodies (once again.... WHY!?!?!?!?), the skinny pants + low shirt combo (third time... WHY!?!?!?!?), flat hats with the sticker (this is a 00's holdover! Why are you people still doing this!?), etc., etc. Even the 00's had more variety to choose from in terms of how people dressed (and I hate the real 00's!). Nowadays, they all dress the same and claim to be "lolunique"...

Your sister's first computer outside of her school was an iPad? Man, that's a bummer. If I tend to have a little brother or sister, their first computer would probably be something like a laptop. Although, I didn't really want a brother or sister that much, but sometimes I would do. It may rude to ask, but how old is your sister?

I think 9 years old. She uses a laptop some times for web games. She uploads videos to YT. I had a YT account like her at around her age, but I didn't really upload any videos compared to her.

2010's fashion is the worst. I wouldn't really care about what "the kidz" did if it wasn't for the fact that people my age have made the big decision to start dressing like this, too. Do people decide "hey, lets look tacky on purpose!!"? High rise polka dot skirts (or high rise anything, really... 8-P ), mom jeans (WHY!?!?!?!?!), undercuts, side buzzes, thick glasses, beards, (occasionally) bell bottoms ( 8-P ), weird unfitting shirts (e.g. low shirts, those potato sack-type things with the sleeves rolled up, those sweaters chicks wear), sleeveless hoodies (once again.... WHY!?!?!?!?), the skinny pants + low shirt combo (third time... WHY!?!?!?!?), flat hats with the sticker (this is a 00's holdover! Why are you people still doing this!?), etc., etc. Even the 00's had more variety to choose from in terms of how people dressed (and I hate the real 00's!). Nowadays, they all dress the same and claim to be "lolunique"...


Apart from the sleeveless hoodies (because guys' clothes are generally boring and this serves as a nice break from it) and maybe the glasses (which I'm OK with, especially since most people I've seen wearing them actually need to), I agree with you 100% and am glad someone shares my opinion.

2010's fashion is the worst. I wouldn't really care about what "the kidz" did if it wasn't for the fact that people my age have made the big decision to start dressing like this, too. Do people decide "hey, lets look tacky on purpose!!"? High rise polka dot skirts (or high rise anything, really... 8-P), mom jeans (WHY!?!?!?!?!), undercuts, side buzzes, thick glasses, beards, (occasionally) bell bottoms (8-P), weird unfitting shirts (e.g. low shirts, those potato sack-type things with the sleeves rolled up, those sweaters chicks wear), sleeveless hoodies (once again.... WHY!?!?!?!?), the skinny pants + low shirt combo (third time... WHY!?!?!?!?), flat hats with the sticker (this is a 00's holdover! Why are you people still doing this!?), etc., etc. Even the 00's had more variety to choose from in terms of how people dressed (and I hate the real 00's!). Nowadays, they all dress the same and claim to be "lolunique"...


And they tend to make it more cringy if they're hipsters. Especially when most of the stuff that they like now are mainstream as hell, thanks to the popularization on social media.


I think 9 years old. She uses a laptop some times for web games. She uploads videos to YT. I had a YT account like her at around her age, but I didn't really upload any videos compared to her.


I also had a YT account as a kid, but I would mostly upload videos about the history of computer companies. It wasn't really that detailed, aside from putting the images of products along with the years they were released. But in any way, it doesn't really seem that bad. If you look up something that's full of 6-12 year olds, then check out the GoAnimate community on YT.

Apart from the sleeveless hoodies (because guys' clothes are generally boring and this serves as a nice break from it) and maybe the glasses (which I'm OK with, especially since most people I've seen wearing them actually need to), I agree with you 100% and am glad someone shares my opinion.


With the glasses, I directed more towards dudes who pop the lenses out and do it for "fashion" or "nerdy lol" purposes. It's so dumb! I don't get what people of the 2010's are trying to accomplish with this kind of fashion. They don't look good, they just look tacky and trashy.

And flat hats with stickers! Why will this not go away!?!?! Next, I'm gonna be told that people still listen to 50 Cent...


And they tend to make it more cringy if they're hipsters. Especially when most of the stuff that they like now are mainstream as hell, thanks to the popularization on social media.

I also had a YT account as a kid, but I would mostly upload videos about the history of computer companies. It wasn't really that detailed, aside from putting the images of products along with the years they were released. But in any way, it doesn't really seem that bad. If you look up something that's full of 6-12 year olds, then check out the GoAnimate community on YT.


Yeah, dude. Hipsters suck.

With the glasses, I directed more towards dudes who pop the lenses out and do it for "fashion" or "nerdy lol" purposes. It's so dumb! I don't get what people of the 2010's are trying to accomplish with this kind of fashion. They don't look good, they just look tacky and trashy.
Nerding out: OK if it's for deciding which CPU to use for gaming and streaming such footage, NOT for dictating your fashion tastes and how you interact with other people. Then again, emo kids are still cute with glasses on, whether or not they need them.
And flat hats with stickers! Why will this not go away!?!?! Next, I'm gonna be told that people still listen to 50 Cent...
Death to flat hats (because almost no one suits them)...
Yeah, dude. Hipsters suck.

...and hipsters. They claim to be non-conformist, yet wear facial hair that is eerily similar to another group of people who heavily support conformism (extremists who disrupted a marathon, had a plane flown into a couple of buildings and conducted shootings in the West).

Yeah, the 1979-1982 era is pretty similar to the Great Recession period in the way it sort of transcends decade-sensitive descriptions, although I personally think 2010 and 2011 are clearly much more tied to the 2010s than the 2000s aside from fashion, whereas the 1979-1982 age was evenly balanced between 70s and 80s influences pretty much throughout. Early 1979 leaned more towards the 70s because it was still the peak of disco, while late 1982 was definitely a bit more 80s than 70s thanks to the premieres of huge shows like Cheers, Knight Rider, and Family Ties (plus the end of older ones like Mork & Mindy), not to mention MTV being much more established than it was at its launch, yet everything in between, from the second half of 1979 to the first half of 1982, evolved quite slowly. The Y2K era and Bush '41 era similarly had distinct identities while simultaneously transcending decade-specific descriptions, but I personally think the 1979-1982 period was the most coherent of the hybrid eras; the Y2K era would be close, but 9/11 alone is enough to clearly distinguish late 2001 and 2002 from 1999 to mid-2001.

By the way, I agree with you about Enema of the State and Toy Story 2, but I wouldn't really call the original Super Smash Bros. an early 2000s game, considering not only was it released in early 1999, it became outdated as soon as Super Smash Bros. Melee came out in late 2001, well before the end of the early 2000s. It's not a horrible mistake calling it early 2000s, since it was still a popular party game in the year 2000 and early 2001, but I think it's better described as a late 90s video game all things considered. I could better accept something like the Sega Dreamcast as early 2000s, though, at least outside of Japan, where it was already out in time for the 1998 holiday season.


Yeah, I agree about late 1979 to early 1982 being very in-between, especially since defining 80s pop culture icons, like U2,  Madonna, Metallica, Crosby Show, etc. were yet to hit their strides or make their debuts. I'm not completely fluent on the 80s, I feel like 1981 was an important year in the 80s though, with Reagan becoming president, the early 80s recession starting, the launch of MTV and Duran Duran, and Pac Man hiting the arcades.

I just checked, Super Smash Bros. released April 26, 1999. It's technically early 1999, but I associate the game heavily with Pokémania, since the reason I picked it up myself was when I saw Mario and Pikachu on the same cover on the weekend before Thanksgiving 1999  ;D

...and hipsters. They claim to be non-conformist, yet wear facial hair that is eerily similar to another group of people who heavily support conformism (extremists who disrupted a marathon, had a plane flown into a couple of buildings and conducted shootings in the West).


Are you saying that hipsters are like terrorists with their facial hair? As much as I hate hipsters, they aren't that bad.

Until the 2010s, all I ever used to regularly access the web were desktops and laptops. My first two phones ran Series 40 (so had a desktop-esque UI, only with more menus) and did not have wi-fi and had a small data allowance. My sister doesn't know the pain of this, since the first computers she used regularly outside of school were the iPad, and eventually, my iPhone. Those phones do not have file managers, nor can you access files from other apps with one app (things are improving, but it's still not good enough to the point you'll need to be glued to the ecosystem to get, for instance, music files on some music creation app).
One problem in four letters: UEFI. I'll need a blank hard drive if I want to be able to install Linux without having to regularly fiddle around with UEFI/Legacy in the settings.Latter looks too 90s, and I don't really like late(r) 90s haircuts because guys' hair got a bit shorter then. The former arguably could just be like early 90s, but I'm a bit more partial to that even though the dude below has a better face and hence pretty much suits his hairstyle.

Plus, what's with all the hate for emo hair on guys? We were getting more tolerant towards the 2010s (since skinny jeans were becoming acceptable), but why did this hairstyle have to go away?


People always hated emo hair and everything emo. It was never really all-pervasive, it was one subculture of many. That's how I remember it at least. Most people and bands really hated being called emo, even though that's what they obviously were. ;D

Skinny jeans are more an early '10s thing (2009-2014). 2009 had a lot of people wearing skinny, but not 2007 and 2008. I was personally into slim boot cuts then, but looking at old pictures, a size able number of people carried on wearing their early/mid 2000s baggies. I was actually rewatching E3 2008 the other day (and the 2007 VMAs with Robotney LOL) and I think people really exaggerate how similar late 2000s fashion was to the early 2010s. The fashion still looks very unmistakably "2000s" to me, most people wouldn't be wearing that in 2011 or 2012.

People always hated emo hair and everything emo. It was never really all-pervasive, it was one subculture of many. That's how I remember it at least. Most people and bands really hated being called emo, even though that's what they obviously were. ;D
Hmm, how can we make emo hair attractive (again)?

I just feel like that the hipster style on guys is more illiberal than the emo style, because the hipster style (at least above the waist or even the collar) is masculine and the emo style is androgynous.

And they tend to make it more cringy if they're hipsters. Especially when most of the stuff that they like now are mainstream as hell, thanks to the popularization on social media.

I also had a YT account as a kid, but I would mostly upload videos about the history of computer companies. It wasn't really that detailed, aside from putting the images of products along with the years they were released. But in any way, it doesn't really seem that bad. If you look up something that's full of 6-12 year olds, then check out the GoAnimate community on YT.


It wasn't my YT account, but I made a couple of YouTube vids when I was 12 or 13. It was an abridged version of Sonic X with a lot of potty humour  :-[ Then of course I also made a couple of Dragon Ball Z AMVs with Linkin Park and Sum 41 for background music on Windows Movie Maker.  ;D That was late 2005 or early 2006.

http://www.manbunhairstyle.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/A-hipster-with-a-shaggy-beard-and-a-full-man-bun-hair-style.jpg

This hairstyle is very popular, right now.

Yeah, I agree about late 1979 to early 1982 being very in-between, especially since defining 80s pop culture icons, like U2,  Madonna, Metallica, Crosby Show, etc. were yet to hit their strides or make their debuts. I'm not completely fluent on the 80s, I feel like 1981 was an important year in the 80s though, with Reagan becoming president, the early 80s recession starting, the launch of MTV and Duran Duran, and Pac Man hiting the arcades.

I don't see Reagan's inauguration as being that big of a deal because he was already an extremely popular politician before his election, he was basically just the American version of Margaret Thatcher, who became the British Prime Minister in May 1979; and his influence on the malaise-riddled domestic scene was fairly tepid until about 1983. Pac-Man actually hit arcades in May 1980, on the same day Diana Ross released her iconic Diana album and about the same time The Shining and The Empire Strikes Back; I and most people personally see the breakthrough of Space Invaders (released in America around the end of 1978, caught on in 1979) as the start of the "classic age" of video games (or at least the post-Pong, pre-crash age); Pac-Man just galvanized the craze further. Duran Duran may have been really ahead of their time when they came out in 1981, but they actually wouldn't achieve true success in America until 1983; their "Girls on Film" video was in heavy rotation on MTV right after the channel's launch, but that didn't translate into high sales figures yet, as MTV itself wasn't super well-known at the time. There were plenty other new wave/synthrock acts (i.e., the Cars) who achieved popularity before Duran Duran, anyway. While 1981 did in fact lay down a lot of new foundations for the 80s, the general atmosphere was still hardly distinguishable from 1979, even by year's end.

Nerding out: OK if it's for deciding which CPU to use for gaming and streaming such footage, NOT for dictating your fashion tastes and how you interact with other people. Then again, emo kids are still cute with glasses on, whether or not they need them.Death to flat hats (because almost no one suits them)...
Yeah, dude. Hipsters suck.

...and hipsters. They claim to be non-conformist, yet wear facial hair that is eerily similar to another group of people who heavily support conformism (extremists who disrupted a marathon, had a plane flown into a couple of buildings and conducted shootings in the West).


The flat hats have gotta be one of the worst. I don't get why it's still so big. Do the kids of today who grew up during the mid-late 2000's just happen to think "this is how hats have always been worn. This is the proper way"!? It's come to a point where I'll make a snarky comment and some kid says "you're not supposed to bend it and take the sticker off, dumbass" to which I respond "in the 80's and 90's we bent them and took the stickers off. Our hats survived just fine, turd-brain." It's like it's not even a G-Unit fashion statement anymore, it's like they honestly believe that is how hats are supposed to be worn. It's also funny how both hipsters believe they're so unique/different and everything that is seemingly-underground (yet somehow makes it's way onto the top 40 and other trendy places) gets the "hipster" tag, yet, it's the biggest 2010's subculture by far. You're either some hipster-rap homeboy dork or some hipster indie pop goofball in today's world.

2008 was Bush too though. Late 2006, 2007 ,and early and mid 2008. That's too large of a portion of the late 2000s that's very distinct from the early 2010s for me to say the two eras are similar. I'd go as far as to say the late 2000s actually have more in common with middle portion of the decade, than they do with the early '10s, but of course any two adjacent eras are going to have a lot in common with each other.

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It... Isn't that conservative though? I hear conservatives complaining about things like manbuns, skinny jeans and florals all the time. 2000s fashion is what felt more "macho" to me. It's not really the same thing as manly, since it's such a childish definition of manly, but most people I knew just slapped whatever sports jersey, a pair of cargo pants and called it a day. Caring too much about what you wore or the way you looked was considered gay (in a negative way). The whole reason the word "metrosexual" was coined in the 2000s is because straight men who cared about their appearance felt the need to make it clear that they were different from homosexuals. I guess the hair of the late 2000s and the lack of beards might make it appear more effeminate, but I still find it hard to call the era progressive when as late as mid-2009,  when I bought my first pair of skinny jeans, the first comment I got about them was "Really? Skinny jeans?" in a disapproving tone. I can understand your grievances about 2010s hairstyles and short hair, it's not for everybody and at this point I think I know more people who hate them than wear them, but I wouldn't really twist the 2000s into something they really weren't.

I know, you can count part of 2008 too when Obama wasn't president. I definitely think on the whole the late 2000s have much more in common with the early 10s than the mid 00s. This is mainly due to the huge shift in 2008, one where I have never experienced more change culturally in my life. 2008 - 2009 was truly a game changer. The late 00s and early 10s totally have more in common than the mid 00s and late 10s and the difference is night and day in my opinion.

Welcome everyone to Jordan's stylin' 2010's fashion catwalk! 8) Oh la la, take a look at the latest styles and trends we have coming for this upcoming season!

Up first is master-of-snazz model: @J-hawnnySixxx

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Look at how hip he is with his totally chic long shirt!  Would you look at that! The length of his shirt really compliments his skinny jeans in such a cool, modern way. The 2010's, what a decade to live in. 8)

Next up is a man who knows his way around a Starbucks: #TurquoiseHipsterKeeth

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Wow!!! How vintage! 8) A very cool 1930's influenced look updated for the modern era so it's all-inclusive and accessible to all people no matter their race, gender or orientation (just don't be remotely-normal or a Luddite or else we millennials will stone you). ;)

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The newest summer fashions are beyond anything we've ever seen. Matched with a trendy shirt with a cool saying and a waist so high, you'll even make your grandpa scream! You'll be stylin' all over the mall. ;)

Here we have a very "hood" couple, straight outta Compton themselves! #swaggdogghomeboymicky and @sexiiwithansswagjudy

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Who needs school when you got swag, right? You too can bring urban appeal to your suburban neighborhood with these hip new styles! Easy G himself wore these back in his late 90's rap days in South Central LA with his boyz Ludicrous and that one rap group (what were their name again? Beastie-DMC's or something?). Don't forget to make cool squinty faces with your flat brim cap at the camera so you look extra gangsta. 8) (50 cent who...?)

That's all for now folks but stay tuned! 2010's fashion always has neat surprises and Jordan's Hip and Cool Catwalk will be the first on top of the trends. 8)

Welcome everyone to Jordan's stylin' 2010's fashion catwalk! 8) Oh la la, take a look at the latest styles and trends we have coming for this upcoming season!

Wow, what a wonderful fashion show! Thank you so much, #JordanK1982! Aren't the midlate 2010s a stupendous age that we live in? Every one of those models is boldly dressing by their own terms, their own rules, their own natural instincts. That undercut and those endless body tattoos on the first guy really prove how much of an individual he is! Not like that ignorant, patriarchal large white t-shirt, basketball shorts, and spiky-hair combination that the host probably wears on a daily basis! No, this guy has probably porked at least 69 women just by promoting that image of himself on his Instagram page.

Look, too, at that chick near the end! Her white tank top and sideways baseball cap look so #80s! She's standing up for women's rights in more ways than you can imagine, since she's being original as opposed to donning something pretentiously fancy, like those hokey images that #Infinity posted a bit earlier in this thread. 8-P

If it's okay to wear all of that ridiculously tacky apparel, why can't I just dress like a 60s woman, a 70s woman, an 80s woman, or a late 90s woman? Gradually, overtime, I've discovered, over time, that I have a pretty flamboyant, extravagant sense of fashion, but I also want it grounded in actual finesse and elegance, not this loli'muniquecuzihavetats crap.

But wait! Uh oh! SJW Sam and Sally are back again to "fight for people's rights."  :-X

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"im gonna tell all my friends on twitter i just read the most sexist, rape culture-affirming p.o.s. diatribe in my life. don't do what infinity just did."

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"That loser #Infinity has clearly never lived in the real world if she thinks people of her generation are all the same. #the_past_is_oppressive"

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"does she really want society to be just as backwards as it was in the 20th century? she probably thinks racial segregation should be brought back, as well."

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"I don't know, I'm just glad I have you as my boyfriend and I'm not just dating some dweeby, unenlightened pawn of the patriarchy who's caught in the cheesy past."

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"I don't understand why anybody would prefer the 80s over the 2010s. Let's just hope our reality forces itself onto those who can't adapt."

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"Serves #Infinity right for negatively referencing me in one of her recent posts."