Is it me, or did music go downhill after 2007?

Artists like T-Pain and Rihanna dropped their most successful albums to date that year, but never seemed as good thereafter. In Rihanna's case, getting beaten by Chris Brown probably had something to do with that. As for T-Pain, I haven't heard him come out with anything noteworthy in years. Is he still in the music business?

I know that post-2007, we saw the resurgence of Lil Wayne, and the music world was introduced to his buddies Drake and Nicki Minaj. David Guetta and Calvin Harris also did their part to make electro dance/pop the "it" thing.

Nelly Furtado, who had us dancing to "Promiscuous" and "Say It Right," has fallen off the map. And Justin Timberlake focused on movies for a while before releasing The 20/20 Experience.

A lot has been made of the so-called ring tone rap of the mid 2000s, but I think today's rap is even worse. Rappers like Future all sound the same, and you can hardly understand what they're saying. Future is known to mumble in his songs.

In 2006, we had Rihanna, T-Pain, Chris Brown, Kanye, and Kelly Clarkson topping the charts. Now we have Drake, Future, Bieber, Taylor Swift, and Selena Gomez.

Don't know about you, but I miss the mid-2000s cohort.

What's your take?

Actually no... 2008 was for the most part the same musical era as 2007 and late 2006, and while 2007 was better than 2008. It didn't go completely downhill.
I thought that the music was actually A LOT better from 2009-2011 than 2006-2008. Hip Hop music for example was VERY good during the early 10s. Now however, it is kinda crap tho.


I feel this would be a better discussion, if the late 00s were being compared with the early 10s solely. It feels like the OP is comparing the late 2000s music with both the early and mid 10s.

Music died in 2012 for me.

I will say that 2008 was easily one of the blandest and most forgettable years in music prior to the mid-2010s. I was just marathoning through a bunch of hit compilations I handcrafted in iTunes, and the three albums representing 2008 were all among my least favorite. Besides there being an extreme lack of melodic complexity or originality, most songs around that year had rather bland production. The Timbaland golden age pretty much winded down after "4 Minutes," even though plenty more songs emulated his style afterwards. This was before the takeoff of early-2010s electropop, but well after the peak of 2000s-style urban. A good number of productions just sounded cheap. Even Mariah Carey's E=MC2 was painfully average. You could also tell rock was about to die for good; although you had some good songs like "All Around Me" (which was technically made in 2005), most of it puts me to sleep. Even indie rock wasn't at its best this year; you had Fleet Foxes and Vampire Weekend's debut, but the year was still a weak follow-up to 2007. Although there weren't nearly as many downright unlistenable hit songs as there were in late 2005 and 2006, the real standouts were few and far in-between. Things started to pick up towards the end of the year with Lady Gaga's The Fame and Kanye West's 808's & Heartbreak, but overall, 2008 was easily one of the weaker years for music of the 2000s.

It was a fun year for me.

It was a fun year for me.


Oh hey, MM07. Didn't get to see you here for weeks. How's it going?

Oh hey, MM07. Didn't get to see you here for weeks. How's it going?


It's going.  ;D

I agree. Popular music these days is garbage.

I agree. Popular music these days is garbage.

Yep.

I agree. Popular music these days is garbage.


There were a couple good songs this year, but it's not amazing.

I agree. Popular music these days is garbage.


When do you think it will change? I'm hoping there's a giant Gen Z explosion in the 2017-2018 school year.

When do you think it will change? I'm hoping there's a giant Gen Z explosion in the 2017-2018 school year.

I hope so too.

>2008: The Year Music Died
>Implying that music was alive 2005-2007

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JK. Rihanna, Chris Brown and Kanye West are still extremely relevant. :P

I used to joke about how we need a new Elvis, or Michael Jackson, or Mozart, or Beethoven. But this time I mean it. We need a new big name to jolt and shock the music industry out of this 'blah' period we've been through the past sixteen years, or whatever.

The music industry needs a musical genius to up the game, and change the game. Bring music to a new plateau. Whoever this new musical genius is, she, or he, or they, might not come until 2020, or after. Or, it may be decades.

I agree. Popular music these days is garbage.


I know it sucks, that's why I only prefer listening to the oldies stations.

>2008: The Year Music Died
>Implying that music was alive 2005-2007

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JK. Rihanna, Chris Brown and Kanye West are still extremely relevant. :P


>Implying that music was alive 2012-2016

How could have music died in 2008 when it became great again in 2009? 2008 was just a down year compared to 2007 & 2009 in between.

I'll say this, from 2005-2008, 2007 was really the only high quality year for music in that span. Although, hip-hop and R&B music throughout the mid 2000's were still epic though. Overall, I still think 2009-2011 have been the best years for music in this modern era so far, and while a lot of people on these threads don't want to admit it, the second half of 2013 and 2014 was a damn good period for music as well.

How could have music died in 2008 when it became great again in 2009? 2008 was just a down year compared to 2007 & 2009 in between.

I'll say this, from 2005-2008, 2007 was really the only high quality year for music in that span. Although, hip-hop and R&B music throughout the mid 2000's were still epic though. Overall, I still think 2009-2011 have been the best years for music in this modern era so far, and while a lot of people on these threads don't want to admit it, the second half of 2013 and 2014 was a damn good period for music as well.

Music in 2009 was very bad in my opinion. That's the year Michael Jackson died too. I really liked music in 2013 though. A lot of catchy songs came out that year.

Music for me was basically already dead by 2006. I mainly go by the sound over lyrics and the vibe it releases. 

Music in 2009 was very bad in my opinion. That's the year Michael Jackson died too. I really liked music in 2013 though. A lot of catchy songs came out that year.


Just because some celebrity died, that doesn't mean the music industry was entirely crappy throughout the year. Besides, 2009 had some really great hits.

Just because some celebrity died, that doesn't mean the music industry was entirely crappy throughout the year. Besides, 2009 had some really great hits.

"Some celebrity"!?  :o

"Some celebrity"!?  :o


Let me get this clear. 2009 didn't focus a lot on Michael Jackson's death. Sure, they did on late June and early July, but then people just liked other stuff.

How could have music died in 2008 when it became great again in 2009? 2008 was just a down year compared to 2007 & 2009 in between.

I'll say this, from 2005-2008, 2007 was really the only high quality year for music in that span. Although, hip-hop and R&B music throughout the mid 2000's were still epic though. Overall, I still think 2009-2011 have been the best years for music in this modern era so far, and while a lot of people on these threads don't want to admit it, the second half of 2013 and 2014 was a damn good period for music as well.

Agreed bro. Mainstream music from the core 00s with the exception of 2007 was kinda lackluster. But the hip hop and R&B music from the mid-late 00s was still damned good! Depending on what demographic you are, your thoughts on the core 00s music will differ. For example, If you weren't into the hip hop and R&B music, then well I could understand you trashing the core 00s music.

Music in 2009 was very bad in my opinion. That's the year Michael Jackson died too. I really liked music in 2013 though. A lot of catchy songs came out that year.


Michael Jackson's passing was a shocking tragedy, but at the same time, he was well, well past his prime and his reputation was gradually deteriorating due to personal scandal. I'd argue 1959, 1970, and 1980 were by far the worst years for music-related deaths just because those who lost their lives that year were only just blossoming and could have made such an enormous impact had they not been taken from the world sooner. 1994, 1996, and 1997 can be considered dishonorable mentions, but the sheer number of passings in the former 3 years is just overwhelming to think about.

I liked the music in 2007 and 2008.  Both years were quite a step up from 2006.  2009-12 though had the best music before everything went to garbage in 2013.

I liked the music in 2007 and 2008.  Both years were quite a step up from 2006.  2009-12 though had the best music before everything went to garbage in 2013.

Boy you must be crazy! 2013 was better than 2012.

Boy you must be crazy! 2013 was better than 2012.


I agree.  8)

Music never dies, to say it did is mind-numbingly stupid in my opinion.

Music never dies, to say it did is mind-numbingly stupid in my opinion.


It just evolves.

>Implying that music was alive 2012-2016


I actually implied the opposite, unless you believe in resurrecting the dead!  :o


How could have music died in 2008 when it became great again in 2009? 2008 was just a down year compared to 2007 & 2009 in between.

I'll say this, from 2005-2008, 2007 was really the only high quality year for music in that span. Although, hip-hop and R&B music throughout the mid 2000's were still epic though. Overall, I still think 2009-2011 have been the best years for music in this modern era so far, and while a lot of people on these threads don't want to admit it, the second half of 2013 and 2014 was a damn good period for music as well.


2014 is severely underrated. There were so many fun dance songs that year!

2016 = horrible year for music.

2016 = horrible year for music.


I wonder if you're just trying to make more messages about 2016, so that people would gain more sympathy for you, or just complain about 2016 in general?

I wonder if you're just trying to make more messages about 2016, so that people would gain more sympathy for you, or just complain about 2016 in general?


Complain about 2016... until it's over of course. I'm sick of this year already.

Complain about 2016... until it's over of course. I'm sick of this year already.


Well yeah, but complaining about it wouldn't have the events to go away. We already have four months left until the election happens, and I don't want to worry about having a Trump presidency now.

2016 = horrible year for music.


I half agree. Music has gotten better, but it's really boring and uninspiring these days. I would listen to 2016 music rather than 2005 music. But it still is bad, in my opinion.  ;)

Well yeah, but complaining about it wouldn't have the events to go away. We already have four months left until the election happens, and I don't want to worry about having a Trump presidency now.


I lean towards Republican, but Trump scares me too.  :o

In the words of Michael Jackson, Hee hee!  8)

I half agree. Music has gotten better, but it's really boring and uninspiring these days. I would listen to 2016 music rather than 2005 music. But it still is bad, in my opinion.  ;)


Meh at least 2005 had rock and some pop songs to turn to. 2005 has way more cringeworthy songs but also way more good songs too. 2016 is more like a giant bore where music is all garbled in the background.

Meh at least 2005 had rock and some pop songs to turn to. 2005 has way more cringeworthy songs but also way more good songs too. 2016 is more like a giant bore where music is all garbled in the background.


That's cool.  :D

I still stand by my thoughts though.

That's cool.  :D

I still stand by my thoughts though.


I think 2010 music beats 2005 AND 2016 by a million miles. :D

I think 2010 music beats 2005 AND 2016 by a million miles. :D

I think 2005 was a wonderful time for music. Everything before 2008 simply can't compete.

I think 2010 music beats 2005 AND 2016 by a million miles. :D


Yep, I agree! 2010 was such an uncommonly great year for music considering how recent it is.

Yep, I agree! 2010 was such an uncommonly great year for music considering how recent it is.

2010 makes me think of Kesha.  8-P

2010 makes me think of Kesha.  8-P


I agree with you on Kesha.  8-P  ;D

I think 2005 was a wonderful time for music. Everything before 2008 simply can't compete.

You mean after.... ;)
And 2005 music wasn't that great, aside from R&B.

2010 makes me think of Kesha.  8-P


2010 was a very HUGE year for music. It wasn't just about Kesha or Lady Gaga. The hip hop music that year was really big as well, and 2010 was the last FULL year before trap became popular in late 2011/early 2012.  2010 was definitely a special year for music looking back. Even a lot of music that game out from that year you still hear at big events today. DJ Khaled "All I Do Is Win", Katy Perry's Teenage Dream Album which included Firework, Eminem Not Afraid and Love the Way You Lie, B.O.B. Airplanes, and much more.

2010 was a very HUGE year for music. It wasn't just about Kesha or Lady Gaga. The hip hop music that year was really big as well, and 2010 was the last FULL year before trap became popular in late 2011/early 2012.  2010 was definitely a special year for music looking back. Even a lot of music that game out from that year you still hear at big events today. DJ Khaled "All I Do Is Win", Katy Perry's Teenage Dream Album which included Firework, Eminem Not Afraid and Love the Way You Lie, B.O.B. Airplanes, and much more.

Agreed! :)
If you take away cheesy artists like Kesha, 2010 was still the best year for music this decade, so far!

Agreed! :)
If you take away cheesy artists like Kesha, 2010 was still the best year for music this decade, so far!

2013 was the best year for music this decade so far in my opinion.

Who made fun pop music
and Lady Gaga

:)


I love Kesha too! :D Her song came on while I was driving and I had to really slow down and be more cautious because I couldn't help but dance in my seat. Those university freshman year vibes. She's cheesey, but I like cheesey and goofy songs, so it works for me. ;D

I love Kesha too! :D Her song came on while I was driving and I had to really slow down and be more cautious because I couldn't help but dance in my seat. Those university freshman year vibes. She's cheesey, but I like cheesey and goofy songs, so it works for me. ;D

As you can already tell. Their ''type'' of music aint for me! ;) ;D

As you can already tell. Their ''type'' of music aint for me! ;) ;D


What music from 2010 did you like?

I love Kesha too! :D Her song came on while I was driving and I had to really slow down and be more cautious because I couldn't help but dance in my seat. Those university freshman year vibes. She's cheesey, but I like cheesey and goofy songs, so it works for me. ;D


I absolutely loved Ke$ha. She's one of the only musicians from the 2010s that I actually like. I wish she made more songs.

What music from 2010 did you like?

The R&B and hip hop music, of course.

I absolutely loved Ke$ha. She's one of the only musicians from the 2010s that I actually like. I wish she made more songs.


Me too. It was very fun danceable music that's fun to drive to and sing along with. :D

Me too. It was very fun danceable music that's fun to drive to and sing along with. :D


Yeah. She wasn't as annoying as the other 2010s musicians, despite what most people say about her.

Britney Spears released her Circus album that year. Sold 1.7 million in the US.

Britney Spears released her Circus album that year. Sold 1.7 million in the US.


Eight years later, and she's still a decent musician. Even though she didn't do anything for the past 3 years, she's doing alright.

Eight years later, and she's still a decent musician. Even though she didn't do anything for the past 3 years, she's doing alright.

Yikes! "Britney Spears" and "musician" in the same sentence!  :o

Yikes! "Britney Spears" and "musician" in the same sentence!  :o


So? It's not like she's as terrible as Miley Cyrus (post-2013) and pretty much anybody who obsesses over trap music nowadays.

Eight years later, and she's still a decent musician. Even though she didn't do anything for the past 3 years, she's doing alright.


It's been eight years??  ???  ???

Yikes! "Britney Spears" and "musician" in the same sentence!  :o


I'm a Britney fan, but other fans would get offended, but I'm not. Britney's never been known for her voice, so you've got a point. She's more of a brand, like McDonald's, or Walmart. 

I'm a Britney fan, but other fans would get offended, but I'm not. Britney's never been known for her voice, so you've got a point. She's more of a brand, like McDonald's, or Walmart.


I kinda like her voice.

I remember T.I.'s song being popular in 2008.

The R&B and hip hop music, of course.


I heard Dynamite on the radio today. One of my favourite prom songs :D

I think Black & Yellow is still my favourite hip hop song. IDK though, I haven't listened to much hip hop after the mid-2000s. :o

I absolutely loved Ke$ha. She's one of the only musicians from the 2010s that I actually like. I wish she made more songs.


Me too. It was very fun danceable music that's fun to drive to and sing along with. :D



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So? It's not like she's as terrible as Miley Cyrus (post-2013) and pretty much anybody who obsesses over trap music nowadays.


Ironically, as bad as Miley Cyrus has been, rather she played as Hannah Montana or how bad her songs were from 2013-present, I have to admit her 2009 and 2010 songs were actually the only GOOD moments about her. Party in the USA and Can't Be Tamed were actually decent and I wish that was the only version of Miley Cyrus that ever existed and she'd be a lot more respectable for me.

I heard Dynamite on the radio today. One of my favourite prom songs :D

I think Black & Yellow is still my favourite hip hop song. IDK though, I haven't listened to much hip hop after the mid-2000s. :o


I loved ALL of those songs from 2010, especially Black & Yellow. I remember when the Steelers played the Packers in the Super Bowl back in 2011, and everybody who was supporting the Steelers kept playing Black & Yellow over and over again, even though the Packers ended up winning. Black & Yellow and Roll Up were the first two songs I ever heard from Wiz Khalifa. See, not only 2010 was an amazing year for music, it was the year a lot of new artists who started in the late 2000's hit their peak (Katy Perry, Drake, Wiz Khalifa) and some minor comebacks occurred (Eminem). I could come up with so many artists from hip-hop, r&b, electropop, and dance pop who had huge albums throughout that year.

I love Kesha too! :D Her song came on while I was driving and I had to really slow down and be more cautious because I couldn't help but dance in my seat. Those university freshman year vibes. She's cheesey, but I like cheesey and goofy songs, so it works for me. ;D


You mean these two cheesy duos?  8-P  But it was still catchy tho!

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I think Katy Perry's California Gurls was her only song from that year I didn't like (although that music video was bizarre when it first came out), but the rest like Teenage Dream (song), E.T., and Fireworks I really enjoyed.

I loved ALL of those songs from 2010, especially Black & Yellow. I remember when the Steelers played the Packers in the Super Bowl back in 2011, and everybody who was supporting the Steelers kept playing Black & Yellow over and over again, even though the Packers ended up winning. Black & Yellow and Roll Up were the first two songs I ever heard from Wiz Khalifa. See, not only 2010 was an amazing year for music, it was the year a lot of new artists who started in the late 2000's hit their peak (Katy Perry, Drake, Wiz Khalifa) and some minor comebacks occurred (Eminem). I could come up with so many artists from hip-hop, r&b, electropop, and dance pop who had huge albums throughout that year.


Oo, I don't even watch football but I remember that!  ;D That song was fun as hell.

Music died in 2005:

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2008 was a pretty dreadful year for music. Personally, I don't like any of the Top-40 singles which were released that year. "Single Ladies" by Beyonce is the worst out of a 'bad bunch', in my opinion. Although, if I had to decide on when I believe music 'died', I would probably say 1999. I do like a few songs which were released between 1999-2004, but generally, music did go downhill after 1998...

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Music hasn't died, you just have to look harder to find the good music. Although, I think there are at least a few good pop songs every year, including 2008.

Ironically, as bad as Miley Cyrus has been, rather she played as Hannah Montana or how bad her songs were from 2013-present, I have to admit her 2009 and 2010 songs were actually the only GOOD moments about her. Party in the USA and Can't Be Tamed were actually decent and I wish that was the only version of Miley Cyrus that ever existed and she'd be a lot more respectable for me.


So, you only like Miley Cyrus when she isn't playing Hannah Montana? Meh. I don't tend to care about her career from Hannah Montana, but it could be somehow memorable to a lot of girls in the late 2000s/early 2010s.

So, you only like Miley Cyrus when she isn't playing Hannah Montana? Meh. I don't tend to care about her career from Hannah Montana, but it could be somehow memorable to a lot of girls in the late 2000s/early 2010s.

I've never liked Miley Cyrus. Party in the USA is one of the worst songs I've heard in my life.

I've never liked Miley Cyrus. Party in the USA is one of the worst songs I've heard in my life.


Am I honestly the only one here who seems to have a neutral affection over Miley Cyrus and her music career?

Am I honestly the only one here who seems to have a neutral affection over Miley Cyrus and her music career?


I hated Party In The USA when it was popular, but looking back it wasn't that bad.

I hated Party In The USA when it was popular, but looking back it wasn't that bad.


Same with me. It was a bit obnoxious, but it wasn't that bad compared to most music nowadays (no offense to you).

Same with me. It was a bit obnoxious, but it wasn't that bad compared to most music nowadays (no offense to you).


Okay, it wasn't that good lol.

Am I honestly the only one here who seems to have a neutral affection over Miley Cyrus and her music career?


I don't really care about Miley Cyrus, I really don't have much of an opinion on her. I thought Party in the U.S.A. and Wrecking Ball were overplayed, but I don't hate them, but I don't like them either though.

I don't really care about Miley Cyrus, I really don't have much of an opinion on her. I thought Party in the U.S.A. and Wrecking Ball were overplayed, but I don't hate them, but I don't like them either though.

I don't care about her anymore. I just hated her music at the time.

I don't care about her anymore. I just hated her music at the time.


Understandable, anytime I hear Treat You Better by Shawn Mendes on the radio, I always change the radio station. Not many songs really annoy me though.

Understandable, anytime I hear Treat You Better by Shawn Mendes on the radio, I always change the radio station. Not many songs really annoy me though.


Oh, I hate that song too.  8-P

2008 needed more Ja..-

2008 wasn't a very good year for music I'll admit. Now that I've actually had a time to go over all of the music that I like hearing I've noticed that none are from 2008. No matter the genre. No entirely sure what happened. But then again my tastes in music is quite strange.

Understandable, anytime I hear Treat You Better by Shawn Mendes on the radio, I always change the radio station. Not many songs really annoy me though.

Such a sissy song!  :-X

Such a sissy song!  :-X


An MRA/Elliot Rogers anthem.

I lean towards Republican, but Trump scares me too.  :o
Same here!

I remember T.I.'s song being popular in 2008.
Yeah I was thinking about T.I. last week and thinking whatever happened to him? He was very popular in 2006 I remember than he just faded away it seems like.

The highlights in 2008 were Lady GaGa becoming popular in late 2008 and Lil Wayne selling a little over a million copies of his album  "The Carter III" in its first  week of release.

2010 was a very HUGE year for music. It wasn't just about Kesha or Lady Gaga. The hip hop music that year was really big as well, and 2010 was the last FULL year before trap became popular in late 2011/early 2012.  2010 was definitely a special year for music looking back. Even a lot of music that game out from that year you still hear at big events today. DJ Khaled "All I Do Is Win", Katy Perry's Teenage Dream Album which included Firework, Eminem Not Afraid and Love the Way You Lie, B.O.B. Airplanes, and much more.
I actually liked those two songs and I am not the biggest fan of Eminem and I don't care for Rihanna's music that much.

The highlights in 2008 were Lady GaGa becoming popular in late 2008 and Lil Wayne selling a little over a million copies of his album  "The Carter III" in its first  week of release.


That was pretty much one of the only things I've focused on for music in 2008. I've used to enjoy Poker Face when that song was released. It reminds me of my phase with Lady Gaga in late 2008/2009. I didn't really listen to her music that much after 2010.

The first time I heard about Lady Gaga was around October 2008 and they were playing her song "Just Dance" on the radio. I did like it at the time because it sounded catchy and fresh. I remember Katy Perry being popular in the summer and me thinking her song "I Kissed a Girl" was very weird. Rihanna released a couple songs that year too. I remember that year was when music started getting more fast and upbeat, but not in a good way. I definitely agree 2008 is when music started to go really bad.

Am I one of the only people who liked music in 2008? I actually get nostalgic for 2008 and some 2008 songs now.

Am I one of the only people who liked music in 2008? I actually get nostalgic for 2008 and some 2008 songs now.


You're not the only one who likes music from 2008. I liked some music from 2008 (e.g. Lady Gaga).

Am I one of the only people who liked music in 2008? I actually get nostalgic for 2008 and some 2008 songs now.


If it were up to me, I'd change the thread title to "2008: The Year Music Was Revived"  ;D

If it were up to me, I'd change the thread title to "2008: The Year Music Was Revived"  ;D


Nah. Music was still the same around 2008. But lol.

Yeah I was thinking about T.I. last week and thinking whatever happened to him? He was very popular in 2006 I remember than he just faded away it seems like.


I would change 2006 to 2007. Big Things Poppin' was a constantly played 2007 hit.


The highlights in 2008 were Lady GaGa becoming popular in late 2008 and Lil Wayne selling a little over a million copies of his album  "The Carter III" in its first  week of release.


I have nice memories with The Carter III. Its a nice album that keeps traveling entertaining.

You're not the only one who likes music from 2008. I liked some music from 2008 (e.g. Lady Gaga).


Yeah, I mean I like 2008 music overall. By the way, my mom has a Lady Gaga song on right now. ;D


If it were up to me, I'd change the thread title to "2008: The Year Music Was Revived"  ;D


;D To each his own, I like music from all years. :)

Yeah, I mean I like 2008 music overall. By the way, my mom has a Lady Gaga song on right now. ;D


Well, that's nice. I guess she knows that you still like Lady Gaga, even to this day.

Well, that's nice. I guess she knows that you still like Lady Gaga, even to this day.


Oh, I'm actually not that big of a fan of Lady Gaga (I like Paparazzi though), I think my mom and dad are fans though. :)

Oh, I'm actually not that big of a fan of Lady Gaga (I like Paparazzi though), I think my mom and dad are fans though. :)


Okay. Were they fans of Lady Gaga since the late 2000s or something?

Okay. Were they fans of Lady Gaga since the late 2000s or something?


Yeah, that was the first time I heard one of her songs in my house in a while though (besides Perfect Illusion which sounds bad imo).

Yeah, that was the first time I heard one of her songs in my house in a while though (besides Perfect Illusion which sounds bad imo).


I barely heard about Perfect Illusion. I would usually listen to Just Dance, Poker Face, Love Game, Bad Romance (my favorite song from her), Judas, Telephone, and Applause.

I barely heard about Perfect Illusion. I would usually listen to Just Dance, Poker Face, Love Game, Bad Romance (my favorite song from her), Judas, Telephone, and Applause.


I still hear all of those on the radio today besides Judas and Applause which I remember hearing. Perfect Illusion is her new song, I haven't heard much of it either, but I played it recently to see what it sounded like, I really didn't like it.

I still hear all of those on the radio today besides Judas and Applause which I remember hearing. Perfect Illusion is her new song, I haven't heard much of it either, but I played it recently to see what it sounded like, I really didn't like it.


I don't really care that much about music nowadays (since 2011/12), so it's unlikely for me to hear her new songs.

I don't really care that much about music nowadays (since 2011/12), so it's unlikely for me to hear her new songs.


Understandable, there might be some stuff that isn't popular that you might like out there though. :)

Understandable, there might be some stuff that isn't popular that you might like out there though. :)


True. But it's just that I don't listen to a lot of modern music nowadays. I wish there could be rock music, but I don't think there's a lot of good underground genres for that now.

2008 was a pretty crap year for American music. Mind you, my experience of music in 2008 wasn't all that bad, as the Australian music scene had remained quite strong and there were a fair few notable releases (some of which are below). The one thing I generally didn't like about music at the time, however, was the then current state of rock music. It actually felt as though rock music had run it's trajectory and was on its last legs, which as a fan of rock, was a horrible feeling. However, with all that said, I don't think 2008 was the year music died. While mainstream music had gradually declined each year since the Late '90s, it wasn't until 2012 that it really felt as though music had died, in my opinion.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qgh3WNKSRY

Yup. Everything started to suck in 2008. However the awful music has some of its roots in 2006, but yeah 2008 was the year not only music, but pop culture in general went to the toilet and it never bounced back.

Oops I'm dumb I just saw the month July and didn't see the year (which was 2016) and haven't realized this is an old thread that I already replied to last year.  :P Anyways my mind still hasn't changed about how bad 2008, and all the years after that year were for pop culture.

Yup. Everything started to suck in 2008. However the awful music has some of its roots in 2006, but yeah 2008 was the year not only music, but pop culture in general went to the toilet and it never bounced back.


The way you feel about 2008 in music, is how I feel about 1999 in music. Although my hate of mainstream music was in stages, looking back at the past.

Look back at 1999 and 2000, there were decent songs on the radio. I feel the same about 2001. So 1999 to early 2002 music was 'okay' for me, but there were already signs that music quality was going down, in my opinion. And by mid 2002, I hated mainstream music, although there okay songs in early 2002.

I actually like (most) popular music from 2008.

You guys are just grouchy....the world didn't end in 2008 :-X.

The way you feel about 2008 in music, is how I feel about 1999 in music. Although my hate of mainstream music was in stages, looking back at the past.

Look back at 1999 and 2000, there were decent songs on the radio. I feel the same about 2001. So 1999 to early 2002 music was 'okay' for me, but there were already signs that music quality was going down, in my opinion. And by mid 2002, I hated mainstream music, although there okay songs in early 2002.


But late 2002 is when Avril Lavigne came out :o

But late 2002 is when Avril Lavigne came out :o


She's one of the few people that I like for music.  :-X

The way you feel about 2008 in music, is how I feel about 1999 in music. Although my hate of mainstream music was in stages, looking back at the past.

Look back at 1999 and 2000, there were decent songs on the radio. I feel the same about 2001. So 1999 to early 2002 music was 'okay' for me, but there were already signs that music quality was going down, in my opinion. And by mid 2002, I hated mainstream music, although there okay songs in early 2002.


This pretty much sums up how I feel about the mid '10s.  There were still some songs I liked on the radio but I found myself liking less and less of what was popular.  I loved the electropop era.  In the mid '10s, I still liked hip-hop and some EDM, but really didn't like teen pop or disco revival.

I would say 2013 was the year the music died.

2008 was a good year for rock IMO

2008 was a good year for rock IMO


It wasn't too bad IMO, although as I briefly touched upon in an earlier post, it was the first year in which you could tell that the genre was on its last legs (at least from a mainstream perspective). These would have to be my favourite rock songs from 2008:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF0HhrwIwp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkmnkIfgIo

^ This song epitomizes 2008 really well, IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QskZwT1psEc

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2008 was a good year for rock IMO


A lot of the rock music was really fun and full of guilty pleasures. Gives You Hell and I Don't Want To Be In Love in particular.  :-
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It came out October 2008, but I associate it with early 2009 since that's when it reached #1 and I have some funny memories I have with the song from then. ;D

A lot of the rock music was really fun and full of guilty pleasures. Gives You Hell and I Don't Want To Be In Love in particular.  :-
It came out October 2008, but I associate it with early 2009 since that's when it reached #1 and I have some funny memories I have with the song from then. ;D


I gotch your crazy. Womanizer, womanizer...  :(  :(  :(

I actually like (most) popular music from 2008.

You guys are just grouchy....the world didn't end in 2008 :-X.


Same here, mate. I don't get all the hate and this might be more controversial, but I don't think 2017 is bad either.