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Well here we go... again. ::) I know there was a late 2006 shift thread made earlier this year, but so be it. I'm making a personal 2006 thread, debating about whether the year was classic 2000s or modern 2000s. Many people still view the year as similar to 2005 while others believe this years was when things were REALLY starting to change before the official change came in 2008. I think it varys with age, ethnic backgrounds, interests, etc. on how you view the year and if you thought the year was the same old same old or when things began to differ... Overall I think the second half of 2006 saw pop culture take a MASSIVE cultural shift, now political things were the same but Bush's backlash really started getting outta hand this year.
I think 2006 was the last of the classic 2000s.

The reason I said the things I said earlier was because 2006 was the last of....
Sixth generation gaming (PS2/GCN/Xbox).
The iPod being a huge status symbol and no iPhones.
Unrestricted Internet and no PRISM.
Re-runs of 90s shows on CN and Disney Channel
End of long running shows such as That '70s Show, Charmed, and Malcolm in the Middle,The West Wing, Alias, Will & Grace, Everwood, Bernie Mac Show etc.
UPN
MNF on ABC
original ABC sports
Paul Tagliabue as NFL commissioner
Funimation dubbing DBZ
The WB became CW
Roger Ebert left At the Movies
TV Land strictly showing OLD SHOWS
ABC family just being family orientated
old style NBA on ABC
End of Cartoon Network's City era
The end of the DCAU with Justice League Unlimited and Teen Titans ending
End of animes like Inuyasha and Yu Yu Hakusho
Nickelodeon got a new president
Katie Couric left the Today Show

and then 2006 saw the premieres of...
High School Musical and Hannah Montana which became the new focuses of DC.
7th gen gaming(Wii / PS3 came out)
shows such as 30 Rock, Heroes, The Game, Dexter, Friday Night Lights, Kyle XY, Till Death
Charles Gibson took over for Peter Jennings as ABC's anchor and Katie Couirc took Dan Rather's spot as CBS's anchor(Both lasted until 2009 and 2011 respectively)
CN's Yes era started
Blu Rays
Music became more poppy sounding
Snap rap music became the rage
ABC Family changed their identity and rebranded as a New kind of Family.
BET 106 and Park saw the debut of hosts Rocsi and Terrance
ABC sports became apart of ESPN
MNF debuted on ESPN with new anchors
NFL returned to NBC with SNF with Al Michaels and John Madden being the commentators

Well, you saw a lot of things culturally take place this year. Some may have been minor changes, but I think overall they were MAJOR changes because many of things that ended were apart of my life and a lot of others people's lives for a LONG TIME! :o
Overall, I've said my piece. I think 2006 was pretty changeful almost to the level that 2008 was.

Do you guys feel it was changeful at all? Do you guys think it was more late 00s or mid 00s? Do you guys think it was the end of the ''classic'' 2000s and beginning of the ''modern'' 2000s?

I gotta say it was classic 2000s. 2006 was pretty much 2005 part 2 especially if we look at the school year of that period. For example, the music still had no electronic influences throughout the year (except towards the end). The 6th gaming generation was still in full force despite the 360 already released. The fashion was totally 00s such as jean skirts, baggy jeans, wingcuts, and skunk hair. Cell phones were absolutely either standard, flip or slide and internet use was strictly PC as the mobile phones had horrible connections and the page wouldn't load correctly as much.

I'll give my opinion on this topic later, but Eric you posted a lot of great facts that I can relate to bro!  ;)

Like what UltraGameDog said, I really thought 2006 was part 2 of 2005. Pretty much anything that I saw from 2005 lingered on to most of 2006. But I'm not saying that it felt exactly like 2005, it just felt slightly different. As for if 2006 was either classic or modern 2000s, I could say that it's probably classic.

On an overall level, I think 2006 is more mid-2000s than late. However, it was also the dawn of several new huge parts of popular culture, and I could go with September of the year as the starting point of the late 2000s, thus making the cultural shift occur on perfect time. It was roughly about that time that Youtube and Facebook went mainstream, mid-2000s thug/Aftermath rap died, Timbaland's golden age was in full bloom, the Nintendo DS was much more common than the Game Boy Advance (the DS Lite came out exactly a decade ago tomorrow), the BlackBerry Pearl came out, and Heroes, 30 Rock, NBC Sunday Night Football, and Dexter made their television debuts. I still don't think the full transition out of the mid-2000s was over until about autumn 2007, but I can certainly go with the chronological threshold, regardless.

This is actually how I see 1986, which was also more mid-80s as a whole but was quite transformative throughout its course, especially during the last third. Between the premiere of ALF, the true release of the Nintendo Entertainment System, the mainstream breakthrough of hip hop, Janet Jackson's Control becoming more influential to pop than Michael Jackson's Thriller, the second wave of hair metal taking off with Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name," Brat Pack movies ending their golden age, Macintosh computers becoming more popular, CD's entering the mainstream, and shows like Knight Rider, Diff'rent Strokes, Inspector Gadget, and He-Man ending their run, December 31 was markedly different from January 1, even though The A-Team and Silver Spoon were still on tv for a few more months.

I guess 2006 was kinda half mid and half late.

Ill say this tho. The first half of 2006 still had that classic 00s feel, but that second half felt modern as HELL! ;D

Yeah, 2006 really just felt like a watered down continuation of 2005, as most have said here.
Though Disney Channel changed pretty rapidly in 2006, once High School Musical and Hannah Montana became popular the whole network changed its lineup pretty fast. The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, which premiered in early 2005, was probably its precursor. 2004 felt like the last year of Disney Channel's golden age (c. 1997-2004).

Yeah, 2006 really just felt like a watered down continuation of 2005, as most have said here.
Though Disney Channel changed pretty rapidly in 2006, once High School Musical and Hannah Montana became popular the whole network changed its lineup pretty fast. The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, which premiered in early 2005, was probably its precursor. 2004 felt like the last year of Disney Channel's golden age (c. 1997-2004).


It's debatable, but I disagree with Suite Life of Zack & Cody being Hannah Montana's precursor, not even close. I consider it as the last Disney Channel classic, in fact, 2005 was really the last full year of Disney Channel's golden age and the peak of the channel's original programming. Season 3 of That's So Raven, season 1 of Suite Life, season 2 of Phil of the Future, and it was the last full year Lizzie McGuire and Even Stevens reruns were still around. In 2005 Disney Channel also had 7 original cartoons on the channel at once, known as The Proud Family, Kim Possible, Lilo & Stitch, Dave the Barbarian, Brandy & Mr Whiskers, American Dragon Jake Long, and Buzz On Maggie. Kim Possible So The Drama and The Proud Family Movie made 2005 even better for the network. All of this combined arguably makes 2005 the year Disney Channel peaked and the last full year of its golden age before HSM and Miley Cyrus became the faces of Disney Channel the following year.

Edit: Also, Disney Channel's golden age was really 2002-2005.

It's debatable, but I disagree with Suite Life of Zack & Cody being Hannah Montana's precursor, not even close. I consider it as the last Disney Channel classic, in fact, 2005 was really the last full year of Disney Channel's golden age and the peak of the channel's original programming. Season 3 of That's So Raven, season 1 of Suite Life, season 2 of Phil of the Future, and it was the last full year Lizzie McGuire and Even Stevens reruns were still around. In 2005 Disney Channel also had 7 original cartoons on the channel at once, known as The Proud Family, Kim Possible, Lilo & Stitch, Dave the Barbarian, Brandy & Mr Whiskers, American Dragon Jake Long, and Buzz On Maggie. Kim Possible So The Drama and The Proud Family Movie made 2005 even better for the network. All of this combined arguably makes 2005 the year Disney Channel peaked and the last full year of its golden age before HSM and Miley Cyrus became the faces of Disney Channel the following year.

Edit: Also, Disney Channel's golden age was really 2002-2005.
What about the period from 1997 to 2001? What's that considered?

Yeah, 2006 really just felt like a watered down continuation of 2005, as most have said here.
Though Disney Channel changed pretty rapidly in 2006, once High School Musical and Hannah Montana became popular the whole network changed its lineup pretty fast. The Suite Life of Zack and Cody, which premiered in early 2005, was probably its precursor. 2004 felt like the last year of Disney Channel's golden age (c. 1997-2004).


I'm with mqg96 over this one. Disney Channel was still good throughout 2005 and had a very good schedule. I wish Disney Channel wasn't decaying from quality since 2007, because the shows were really lame by then.

What about the period from 1997 to 2001? What's that considered?


It should be noted as the pre-basic cable golden age.

What about the period from 1997 to 2001? What's that considered?


Vault/Zoog Disney era. Sure, Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire were around, but not enough original sitcoms and no original cartoons on the channel yet, and Disney Channel was mainly premium then so not everybody had it yet. Kinda similar to early-mid 90's Cartoon Network or 80's Nickelodeon. I'd say that Disney Channel's original movies were in a golden age at the time but that's it.

Vault/Zoog Disney era. Sure, Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire were around, but not enough original sitcoms and no original cartoons on the channel yet, and Disney Channel was mainly premium then so not everybody had it yet. Kinda similar to early-mid 90's Cartoon Network or 80's Nickelodeon. I'd say that Disney Channel's original movies were in a golden age at the time but that's it.
Yes! Thus why I began the golden age of Disney Channel in 1997. The golden DCOM era was in full swing by then.

Yes! Thus why I began the golden age of Disney Channel in 1997. The golden DCOM era was in full swing by then.

I disagree. When most people talk about Dc's golden years, it's usually 2002-2005. The Zoog Era had the best DCOM movies, that's about it.

That era wasn't available for everybody on basic cable, so unfortunately not everybody remembers it.

Yes! Thus why I began the golden age of Disney Channel in 1997. The golden DCOM era was in full swing by then.


But it's not like most people cared about the original movies in the late 90s. Just because the movies were golden age, that doesn't mean the entire channel was in a golden age in my opinion.

It should be noted as the pre-basic cable golden age.



Vault/Zoog Disney era. Sure, Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire were around, but not enough original sitcoms and no original cartoons on the channel yet, and Disney Channel was mainly premium then so not everybody had it yet. Kinda similar to early-mid 90's Cartoon Network or 80's Nickelodeon. I'd say that Disney Channel's original movies were in a golden age at the time but that's it.
I can see it that way. Also, don't forget about Jett Jackson and So Weird. They were there during the Zoog era.


Yes! Thus why I began the golden age of Disney Channel in 1997. The golden DCOM era was in full swing by then.
This! The DCOMs are definitely amazing during that timeframe. I tuned in to watch them every time until the complete change occurred in late 2002.

I can see it that way. Also, don't forget about Jett Jackson and So Weird. They were there during the Zoog era.

Yup The Zoog era was defined by Jett Jackson, So Weird, Bug Juice, Even Stevens. and playhouse during that time had Inside the Box and Bear in the big blue house.

But overall yea, Marquis is correct. 1997-early 2002 DC was basically 1992-mid 1997 CN and 1979-1990 Nick. 2002-2005 DC was basically their 90s Nick and Powerhouse CN.

The DCOMs are definitely amazing during that timeframe. I tuned in to watch them every time until the complete change occurred in late 2002.

What are you thoughts on the 2002-2005 era DCOMs?

Yup The Zoog era was defined by Jett Jackson, So Weird, Bug Juice, Even Stevens. and playhouse during that time had Inside the Box and Bear in the big blue house.

But overall yea, Marquis is correct. 1997-early 2002 DC was basically 1992-mid 1997 CN and 1979-1990 Nick. 2002-2005 DC was basically their 90s Nick and Powerhouse CN.
Oh. I forgot about Bug Juice. That's the one I was trying to think of, but it wasn't coming in.

Actually, the 1983-1996 DC would be the first early Nickelodeon and CN days as they were entirely premium and was for a different audience, but I do agree that the 1997-2002 DC period would be the second early days.


What are you thoughts on the 2002-2005 era DCOMs?
Well since I stopped watching the network majorly by that timeframe, I would say they are decent considering I watched a few of them, but the 1997-2001 DCOMs were much better ;)

Oh. I forgot about Bug Juice. That's the one I was trying to think of, but it wasn't coming in.

Actually, the 1983-1996 DC would be the first early Nickelodeon and CN days as they were entirely premium and was for a different audience, but I do agree that the 1997-2002 DC period would be the second early days.
Well since I stopped watching the network majorly by that timeframe, I would say they are decent considering I watched a few of them, but the 1997-2001 DCOMs were much better ;)

Bug Juice was kinda cheesy! ::)

Aww yeah I forgot about 1983-1996 era :o, that's REAL old school!!  ;D ;)
It's ashame you quit watching the network during that time frame. Kim Possible and Raven rocked! :D

I gotta say it was classic 2000s. 2006 was pretty much 2005 part 2 especially if we look at the school year of that period. For example, the music still had no electronic influences throughout the year (except towards the end). The 6th gaming generation was still in full force despite the 360 already released. The fashion was totally 00s such as jean skirts, baggy jeans, wingcuts, and skunk hair. Cell phones were absolutely either standard, flip or slide and internet use was strictly PC as the mobile phones had horrible connections and the page wouldn't load correctly as much.

The electronic era didn't start until 2008.

Actually, the 1983-1996 DC would be the first early Nickelodeon and CN days as they were entirely premium and was for a different audience, but I do agree that the 1997-2002 DC period would be the second early days.

If you wanna get really technical...
1983-1996 DC and 1997-mid 2002 Zoog era= 80s Nick and early-mid 90s CN
2002-2003 Disney Channel= 1991-1993-94 Nick and 1997-2000 CN
2004-2005 DC= 1994-1997 Nick and 2001-2003-04 CN
2006-2009 DC= Silver Age Nick and City era CN

The electronic era didn't start until 2008.

Yea, but it had it's roots as early as 2006 with Timbaland and Nelly furtado.

Yea, but it had it's roots as early as 2006 with Timbaland and Nelly furtado.

I don't think those songs were synthy enough to be considered electropop. Yeah by Usher was also a dance song but it wasn't electro pop. I consider electro pop autotuned trance type songs that got popular much later in the decade.

If you wanna get really technical...
1983-1996 DC and 1997-mid 2002 Zoog era= 80s Nick and early-mid 90s CN
2002-2003 Disney Channel= 1991-1993-94 Nick and 1997-2000 CN
2004-2005 DC= 1994-1997 Nick and 2001-2003-04 CN
2006-2009 DC= Silver Age Nick and City era CN


The 2006/early 2007 of Disney Channel would be like the 2004-2005 of CN. Since those were huge transition years for the channels, but still had the leftover great shows out there.

The late 2007/2008 of Disney Channel would be like the 2006/07 of CN, when pretty much all of the modern shows were in full effect and the classics were completely wiped out.

Here's the tricky thing about this debate. Disney Channel's early age lasted the longest out of all of the other channels, and Disney Channel's golden age was the shortest out of all. Cartoon Network and Nickeledeon's silver age shows were "some really good", "decent", or "some were bad", but almost all of Disney Channel's silver age shows were "beyond horrendous".

I don't think those songs were synthy enough to be considered electropop. Yeah by Usher was also a dance song but it wasn't electro pop. I consider electro pop autotuned trance type songs that got popular much later in the decade.


I consider 2009 to be the first full year the electropop era was in full effect. Black Eyed Peas BOOM BOOM POW immediately comes to mind. I remember the moment that song got popular when I was in 7th grade (Spring 2009), and the music industry had changed so much.

Bug Juice was kinda cheesy! ::)

Aww yeah I forgot about 1983-1996 era :o, that's REAL old school!!  ;D ;)
It's ashame you quit watching the network during that time frame. Kim Possible and Raven rocked! :D
Well not entirely. I still watched those shows despite aging out of the channel throughout the era. They were off the charts :)


The electronic era didn't start until 2008.
What Eric said. If you look Timbaland and Furtado, their producing definitely had electronic influences towards the end of 2006.


If you wanna get really technical...
1983-1996 DC and 1997-mid 2002 Zoog era= 80s Nick and early-mid 90s CN
2002-2003 Disney Channel= 1991-1993-94 Nick and 1997-2000 CN
2004-2005 DC= 1994-1997 Nick and 2001-2003-04 CN
2006-2009 DC= Silver Age Nick and City era CN

Wow! That's actually a good comparison.

It's amazing how I watched the second eras of those channels except Nickelodeon (I began watching it sometime in 1995/96). I witnessed the 1997-2000 Powerhouse era and the 1997-2002 DC period. I've even seen commercials from both networks' eras and they bring me back every time. I remember when they were current and had their own charm to them.

I know both timeframes were just kicking off or had already, but that's what got me into those channels in the first place and the fact that the shows themselves were awesome :).

I mean just look at these videos. There was so much to watch and they had specials & other miscellaneous that were not shown in other eras after them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWmc-qiFQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUA1zJnaC0Q

Bug Juice was kinda cheesy! ::)

Aww yeah I forgot about 1983-1996 era :o, that's REAL old school!!  ;D ;)
It's ashame you quit watching the network during that time frame. Kim Possible and Raven rocked! :D


What was bug juice?  ???

It was mid-2000s until Borat came out, then it was late 2000s ;D

Even though I started high school later in the year and made my first real life-long friends since elementary, 2006 was not all that big of a shift to me. It still felt core 2000s. The main difference to me is how online console gaming took off. I got Wi-fi sometime in spring 2006 so I could play Mario Kart DS on my DS Lite. For console gaming though, I didn't buy my first online game Mario Strikers Charged until May 2007. Other than that, I was still living the same way I did 2003-2005.

Aww yeah I forgot about 1983-1996 era :o, that's REAL old school!!  ;D ;)


Those were the days...

http://ndaeuro.notre-dame-des-aydes.org/2012/vanthuan/images/logo%20disney%20chanel.jpg

And these were too...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/DisneyChannel1997.png

I really think '90s Disney Channel is getting short shrift here. Yes it wasn't widely available to everyone throughout the decade, and yes it did get overshadowed by Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network, but you still had some awesome programming back then.

I kinda feel like pre-2002 Disney Channel has become somewhat underrated over the years, probably since so many folks didn't have the ability to watch it back in the day. DC was added to our cable around 1996, though, and it was amazing. You had sort of a perfect balance of classic stuff (i.e. Mickey's Mouse Tracks and Donald's Quack Attack), cheesy sitcoms (The Torkelsons and Flash Forward), original movies (Brink! and Johnny Tsunami), Disney Afternoon classics (Ducktales, Chip & Dale, etc.), and game shows (Mad Libs and Off The Wall).

Sorry for derailing the 2006 discussion. I just got lost down a '90s Disney nostalgia hole. ;D

It was mid-2000s until Borat came out, then it was late 2000s ;D

Even though I started high school later in the year and made my first real life-long friends since elementary, 2006 was not all that big of a shift to me. It still felt core 2000s. The main difference to me is how online console gaming took off. I got Wi-fi sometime in spring 2006 so I could play Mario Kart DS on my DS Lite. For console gaming though, I didn't buy my first online game Mario Strikers Charged until May 2007. Other than that, I was still living the same way I did 2003-2005.


Another HUGE thing about 2006. Even though online gaming wasn't in FULL force in the gaming industry until 2007. Late 2005 & 2006 gave us some of the earliest popular online games. Mario Kart DS was my first wi-fi game as well, but I didn't get a Nintendo DS (original) until May 2006 after 4th grade ended, and I upgraded to a DS Lite in Christmas 2006. Do you remember your username on Mario Kart DS? It's been a long time I don't even remember mine anymore lol. I loved the custom avatars/emblems you could make as well. It's one of my reasons why Mario Kart DS was the best handheld Mario Kart game of all time for me!

Question for you guys: did you feel a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell (in a goodish way) during summer 2006?

With all of the earlier 00s pop culture dying that year, combined with the usual summer sunsets, I can see how one would feel that way at the time.

In general I think nighttime summer weather has a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell, but in a way that makes you feel good. Know what I'm sayin'? :P

Question for you guys: did you feel a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell (in a goodish way) during summer 2006?

With all of the earlier 00s pop culture dying that year, combined with the usual summer sunsets, I can see how one would feel that way at the time.

In general I think nighttime summer weather has a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell, but in a way that makes you feel good. Know what I'm sayin'? :P


I still felt happy during the summer of 2006. Not one of my favorite summers, but if there was one summer that gave me a sense of melancholy, that would be 2012. My god, every day felt like hell during that summer. It spawned weeks of bullying for me and I'm glad it's over.

Question for you guys: did you feel a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell (in a goodish way) during summer 2006?

With all of the earlier 00s pop culture dying that year, combined with the usual summer sunsets, I can see how one would feel that way at the time.

In general I think nighttime summer weather has a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell, but in a way that makes you feel good. Know what I'm sayin'? :P

I didn't notice any change in 2006 except for when I discovered YouTube. I've been going online a lot more in 06' when YouTube came along. I miss the online early YouTube days so much.  :\'(

I remember Nelly Furtado was super popular in 2006 with her hits. I also remember there was still a lot of Star Wars buzz since episode 3 came out a year before. 2006 feels so long ago, even more than 10 years ago to be honest. In 2006, people had flip phones everywhere just like in 2005. MySpace was also super popular in 2006 too.

I didn't notice any change in 2006 except for when I discovered YouTube. I've been going online a lot more in 06' when YouTube came along. I miss the online early YouTube days so much.  :\'(

I remember Nelly Furtado was super popular in 2006 with her hits. I also remember there was still a lot of Star Wars buzz since episode 3 came out a year before. 2006 feels so long ago, even more than 10 years ago to be honest. In 2006, people had flip phones everywhere just like in 2005. MySpace was also super popular in 2006 too.


Pretty much anything before 2009 felt like 10 or more years ago to me. It felt like it was a long time.

Pretty much anything before 2009 felt like 10 or more years ago to me. It felt like it was a long time.

I agree. Everything 2011 and after feels recent to me, before 2011 dated, and before 2008 very dated.

Another HUGE thing about 2006. Even though online gaming wasn't in FULL force in the gaming industry until 2007. Late 2005 & 2006 gave us some of the earliest popular online games. Mario Kart DS was my first wi-fi game as well, but I didn't get a Nintendo DS (original) until May 2006 after 4th grade ended, and I upgraded to a DS Lite in Christmas 2006. Do you remember your username on Mario Kart DS? It's been a long time I don't even remember mine anymore lol. I loved the custom avatars/emblems you could make as well. It's one of my reasons why Mario Kart DS was the best handheld Mario Kart game of all time for me!


Dude, you got a DS Phat a month before the DS Lite came out? You got burnt! ;D

Mario Kart DS online was intense! Poured hundred of hours into that and I don't think my thumbs have ever recovered ;D

Another online DS game that was popular in Canada/Europe/Japan around the same time was Animal Crossing. I played that a lot with my friends. It wasn't very popular in the US though.

Question for you guys: did you feel a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell (in a goodish way) during summer 2006?

With all of the earlier 00s pop culture dying that year, combined with the usual summer sunsets, I can see how one would feel that way at the time.

In general I think nighttime summer weather has a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell, but in a way that makes you feel good. Know what I'm sayin'? :P


Summer 2006 was okay. The most notable thing I can think of from then is FIFA 2006, which was a lot of fun to follow.

At my school among males (and in Europe, going by the demographics of the site) text-based browser games were really popular. ny-mafia.com and bootleggers.us was our summer 2006 thing. It's pretty much what I did all summer after I got burnt out on World of Warcraft and Runescape.

I agree. Everything 2011 and after feels recent to me, before 2011 dated, and before 2008 very dated.


Anything before 2012 was good to me, but not that dated. Just because it's dated, that doesn't mean it was good. I mean, I find 2010 and 2011 to be a bit recent, but not that recent as 2012-present.

I witnessed the 1997-2000 Powerhouse era and the 1997-2002 DC period. I've even seen commercials from both networks' eras and they bring me back every time. I remember when they were current and had their own charm to them.

I know both timeframes were just kicking off or had already, but that's what got me into those channels in the first place and the fact that the shows themselves were awesome :) .

I mean just look at these videos. There was so much to watch and they had specials & other miscellaneous that were not shown in other eras after them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMWmc-qiFQM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUA1zJnaC0Q

You are one lucky bastard to have caught late 90s CN. I didn't even know the network existed back then.
But yeah the Zoog era rocked! It was a great time to be a Disney fan in general, before the mid 00s hit.

Question for you guys: did you feel a bit of a sense of melancholy and farewell (in a goodish way) during summer 2006?

With all of the earlier 00s pop culture dying that year, combined with the usual summer sunsets, I can see how one would feel that way at the time.

Yes defiantly. Summer of 2006 felt like the end of a long and special  era. and then... the fall of 06 felt like the start of a new brief one before late 2008 hit.

You are one lucky bastard to have caught late 90s CN. I didn't even know the network existed back then.
But yeah the Zoog era rocked! It was a great time to be a Disney fan in general, before the mid 00s hit.


More like the later mid 2000s. I mean, people did enjoy 2004 and 2005 Disney Channel with no problem. Then came 2006 with Hannah Montana and High School Musical.

You are one lucky bastard to have caught late 90s CN. I didn't even know the network existed back then.
But yeah the Zoog era rocked! It was a great time to be a Disney fan in general, before the mid 00s hit.
I know. There were many shows and specials during the late 90s CN. Hanna-Barbera cartoons, character super bowls, Early Toonami, original shows, and 24 hours of CN all day long :)


More like the later mid 2000s. I mean, people did enjoy 2004 and 2005 Disney Channel with no problem. Then came 2006 with Hannah Montana and High School Musical.
Yeah, I'd take the the 1997-05 DC any day over late 00s and today's.

Yeah, I'd take the the 1997-05 DC any day over late 00s and today's.


Me too. Even though I only experienced the mid 2000s Disney Channel, but it was still better than the late 2000s/today's Disney Channel.

I know. There were many shows and specials during the late 90s CN. Hanna-Barbera cartoons, character super bowls, Early Toonami, original shows, and 24 hours of CN all day long :)


The amazing amount of variety is the thing I really like about early Cartoon Network. I don't mean that as a knock against CN today, which I find to be clearly superior from a quality standpoint to both Nick and Disney, but despite having some good shows, the channel undeniably lacks the great diversity of programming that it had in the late '90s and early '00s.

More like the later mid 2000s. I mean, people did enjoy 2004 and 2005 Disney Channel with no problem. Then came 2006 with Hannah Montana and High School Musical.

Ooh I wasn't talking about DC, I was talking bout Disney IN GENERAL. ;D  Of course I still loved DC and even Toon Disney in 2004 and 2005. :)

More like the later mid 2000s. I mean, people did enjoy 2004 and 2005 Disney Channel with no problem. Then came 2006 with Hannah Montana and High School Musical.

I am nostalgic for High School Musical now. I never really liked Hannah Montana though. But I don't think they were THAT different than 2004 and 2005. You saw movies like the Cheetah Girls in 2003 and Pixel Perfect in 2004 which had a similar vibe to High School Musical with the cheesy songs and dances. I think Disney started going downhill around 2007 actually. Camp Rock in 2008 was when Disney totally jumped the shark and never went back to its goodness. From there on Disney was always consistently bad.

I am nostalgic for High School Musical now. I never really liked Hannah Montana though. But I don't think they were THAT different than 2004 and 2005. You saw movies like the Cheetah Girls in 2003 and Pixel Perfect in 2004 which had a similar vibe to High School Musical with the cheesy songs and dances.

Thing is Hannah Montana and HSM became the new faces of DC in 2006, which was what changed the direction of the network.  HSM was on a WHOLE NOTHER level in terms of popularity compared to the cheetah girls. and Pixel Perfect felt nothing like HSM..... 2006 truly felt like the start of something new.  2007 DC was just like late 2006 DC. Hell you could make a strong argument the network was actually starting to change in 2005.

I am nostalgic for High School Musical now. I never really liked Hannah Montana though. But I don't think they were THAT different than 2004 and 2005. You saw movies like the Cheetah Girls in 2003 and Pixel Perfect in 2004 which had a similar vibe to High School Musical with the cheesy songs and dances. I think Disney started going downhill around 2007 actually. Camp Rock in 2008 was when Disney totally jumped the shark and never went back to its goodness. From there on Disney was always consistently bad.
Hannah Montana and HSM don't really strike me as being that similar to Cheetah Girls or Pixel Perfect. Following HSM, we had a lot of musical films directed by Kenny Ortega, Cheetah Girls 2 was included in this. The first Cheetah Girls film has a whole different look, feel, and sound to it than it's 2nd film, it strikes me as more real and down to earth, possibly because it was more low budget. Hannah Montana wouldn't really fit in with 2003/4 DC either.

Hannah Montana and HSM don't really strike me as being that similar to Cheetah Girls or Pixel Perfect. Following HSM, we had a lot of musical films directed by Kenny Ortega, Cheetah Girls 2 was included in this. The first Cheetah Girls film has a whole different look, feel, and sound to it than it's 2nd film, it strikes me as more real and down to earth, possibly because it was more low budget. Hannah Montana wouldn't really fit in with 2003/4 DC either.

All this.

Yeah but I still am nostalgic for the first HSM. When it was its 10th anniversary this year, I got very nostalgic and couldn't believe it's been 10 years. That movie wasn't great but I remember when I was 11 it was all the rage. Good memories.

Yeah but I still am nostalgic for the first HSM. When it was its 10th anniversary this year, I got very nostalgic and couldn't believe it's been 10 years. That movie wasn't great but I remember when I was 11 it was all the rage. Good memories.


2006 didn't really felt like the modern Disney Channel that we're in today, mostly because Hannah Montana and High School Musical were barely there in 2006. Despite Hannah Montana premiering in early 2006, which would give the show ten months of showtime in the year. But I digress. In my honest opinion, Disney Channel went through a lot of sh*t during the late 2000s, mostly because of its preteen sitcoms that were slightly controversial to the public eye. The early 2010s weren't that different, since those shows from the 2006-2009 era were still around, but probably died out in 2011/2012. I don't know about the mid 2010s, since I don't watch that much television nowadays. It's probably a completely different generation, with weird-ass sitcoms from It's A Laugh Productions (the same company who did Good Luck Maggie) that nobody cares about.

2006 didn't really felt like the modern Disney Channel that we're in today, mostly because Hannah Montana and High School Musical were barely there in 2006. Despite Hannah Montana premiering in early 2006, which would give the show ten months of showtime in the year. But I digress. In my honest opinion, Disney Channel went through a lot of sh*t during the late 2000s, mostly because of its preteen sitcoms that were slightly controversial to the public eye. The early 2010s weren't that different, since those shows from the 2006-2009 era were still around, but probably died out in 2011/2012. I don't know about the mid 2010s, since I don't watch that much television nowadays. It's probably a completely different generation, with weird-ass sitcoms from It's A Laugh Productions (the same company who did Good Luck Maggie) that nobody cares about.


Yeah, that's what I've been trying to say myself. Just because HSM and Hannah Montana premiered in 2006 didn't mean Disney Channel literally changed overnight. There were still many other good shows out there finishing its last season or final episodes of its run. 2006 was transitional for Disney Channel, and the changes weren't in full effect until mid 2007 or so. By 2007 Kim Possible, American Dragon Jake Long, and That's So Raven ended and Disney Channel became oversaturated with teenybopper sitcoms.

Hannah Montana and HSM don't really strike me as being that similar to Cheetah Girls or Pixel Perfect. Following HSM, we had a lot of musical films directed by Kenny Ortega, Cheetah Girls 2 was included in this. The first Cheetah Girls film has a whole different look, feel, and sound to it than it's 2nd film, it strikes me as more real and down to earth, possibly because it was more low budget. Hannah Montana wouldn't really fit in with 2003/4 DC either.


Oh wow, my thoughts as well lol! Good statement.

I am nostalgic for High School Musical now. I never really liked Hannah Montana though. But I don't think they were THAT different than 2004 and 2005. You saw movies like the Cheetah Girls in 2003 and Pixel Perfect in 2004 which had a similar vibe to High School Musical with the cheesy songs and dances. I think Disney started going downhill around 2007 actually. Camp Rock in 2008 was when Disney totally jumped the shark and never went back to its goodness. From there on Disney was always consistently bad.


I wouldn't mind somebody saying that Cheetah Girls and High School Musical were both annoying in its own ways. I didn't like either of the movies equally, however, High School Musical was a nothing like Pixel Perfect, and it was a lot more successful with higher ratings which did cause Disney Channel to change throughout that span. Hannah Montana was nothing like the Disney Channel sitcoms made before either, I don't understand why people lump Hannah Montana with Lizzie McGuire, That's So Raven or Phil of the Future.... I can't stand that. Hannah Montana belongs with the carbon copy clone sitcoms like JONAS, Wizards of Waverly Place, or Sonny With A Chance, since it was the main show that started the teenybopper music trend in Disney Channel sitcoms and the "bad plots". Suite Life of Zack & Cody and before all the sitcoms were original, really creative with great afford and good comedy with decent plots and morals, and NO music in them. There was definitely an attitude change between the 2005 & earlier sitcoms compared to the 2006-present ones.

Yeah, that's what I've been trying to say myself. Just because HSM and Hannah Montana premiered in 2006 didn't mean Disney Channel literally changed overnight. There were still many other good shows out there finishing its last season or final episodes of its run. 2006 was transitional for Disney Channel, and the changes weren't in full effect until mid 2007 or so. By 2007 Kim Possible, American Dragon Jake Long, and That's So Raven ended and Disney Channel became oversaturated with teenybopper sitcoms.


I wasn't even into Disney Channel a lot after mid 2007, possibly because I couldn't be interested into their preteen sitcoms. Granted, I liked Nickelodeon's sitcoms from the late 2000s (e.g. Drake and Josh, True Jackson VP, and iCarly), but that's because I watched Nickelodeon a lot as a kid. Even then, I find them more interesting and funny than Disney Channel's sitcoms from the late 2000s.

I wouldn't mind somebody saying that Cheetah Girls and High School Musical were both annoying in its own ways. I didn't like either of the movies equally, however, High School Musical was a nothing like Pixel Perfect, and it was a lot more successful with higher ratings which did cause Disney Channel to change throughout that span. Hannah Montana was nothing like the Disney Channel sitcoms made before either, I don't understand why people lump Hannah Montana with Lizzie McGuire, That's So Raven or Phil of the Future.... I can't stand that. Hannah Montana belongs with the carbon copy clone sitcoms like JONAS, Wizards of Waverly Place, or Sonny With A Chance, since it was the main show that started the teenybopper music trend in Disney Channel sitcoms and the "bad plots". Suite Life of Zack & Cody and before all the sitcoms were original, really creative with great afford and good comedy with decent plots and morals, and NO music in them. There was definitely an attitude change between the 2005 & earlier sitcoms compared to the 2006-present ones.


Maybe it's because those people didn't really care about Disney Channel's styles that changed during 2006/7. Also, who the hell compares Hannah Montana with early-mid 2000s Disney sitcoms? That's somehow awkward for them.

I wasn't even into Disney Channel a lot after mid 2007, possibly because I couldn't be interested into their preteen sitcoms. Granted, I liked Nickelodeon's sitcoms from the late 2000s (e.g. Drake and Josh, True Jackson VP, and iCarly), but that's because I watched Nickelodeon a lot as a kid. Even then, I find them more interesting and funny than Disney Channel's sitcoms from the late 2000s.


iCarly was one of the only good sitcoms on kids television throughout the late 2000's and early 2010's. It's hard to believe that even Victorious was better than a lot of the horrible Disney Channel sitcoms at the time.

iCarly was one of the only good sitcoms on kids television throughout the late 2000's and early 2010's. It's hard to believe that even Victorious was better than a lot of the horrible Disney Channel sitcoms at the time.


Yeah, maybe it's because Dan Schneider was still good when making Victorious. I could say that it was his last good show, before Nickelodeon became savvy over terribly made sitcoms in the mid 2010s.

I wouldn't mind somebody saying that Cheetah Girls and High School Musical were both annoying in its own ways. I didn't like either of the movies equally, however, High School Musical was a nothing like Pixel Perfect, and it was a lot more successful with higher ratings which did cause Disney Channel to change throughout that span. Hannah Montana was nothing like the Disney Channel sitcoms made before either, I don't understand why people lump Hannah Montana with Lizzie McGuire, That's So Raven or Phil of the Future.... I can't stand that. Hannah Montana belongs with the carbon copy clone sitcoms like JONAS, Wizards of Waverly Place, or Sonny With A Chance, since it was the main show that started the teenybopper music trend in Disney Channel sitcoms and the "bad plots". Suite Life of Zack & Cody and before all the sitcoms were original, really creative with great afford and good comedy with decent plots and morals, and NO music in them. There was definitely an attitude change between the 2005 & earlier sitcoms compared to the 2006-present ones.

I don't lump Hannah Montana with Lizzie McGuire. I think those two are completely different. But I do lump it with shows and movies from 2004. Lizzie Mcguire/Even Stevens era is like 2000-2003, That's So Raven era 2003-2007 (which Hannah Montana belongs to), then the bad era in disney 2007 - present. Well I don't watch disney anymore so I don't know if it's as bad or not.

Just because HSM and Hannah Montana premiered in 2006 didn't mean Disney Channel literally changed overnight. There were still many other good shows out there finishing its last season or final episodes of its run.

Last year you said it did change overnight.....
Also the last seasons of some of those shows I thought were terrible.

2006 didn't really felt like the modern Disney Channel that we're in today, mostly because Hannah Montana and High School Musical were barely there in 2006. Despite Hannah Montana premiering in early 2006, which would give the show ten months of showtime in the year.

Barely there?! ???  Are u joking? ;D
HSM and Hannah Montana became very popular that year. I remember. ;)

Last year you said it did change overnight.....


Of course I did. I said it "changed overnight", not "literally changed overnight" like I did now. Literally changing overnight means the network literally changes in 24 hours. Disney Channel did not change 24 hours after HSM or Hannah Montana premiered, but within months it did change. When I said Disney Channel simply changed overnight when HSM and Hannah Montana came out, I meant that it changed very quickly in a year or so, compared to other kid channels' changes which took longer to change like 2 or 3 years. Changing overnight is a figure of speech. Literally changing overnight means something did change in a matter of 24 hours. So once again, my point is that 2006 was transitional for the channel, not literally overnight, but when comparing Disney Channel's changes to Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon, yes figuratively it was really overnight.


Also the last seasons of some of those shows I thought were terrible.


The last season of That's So Raven was my least favorite, I agree with you on that one. Cartoons like Emperor's New School and The Replacements were mediocre or bad as well. However, the last episodes of Phil of the Future and season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody were there, which were enjoyable. Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire reruns were still there during the 1st half of 2006, but the 2nd half of the year it was taken off the air (again, transitional). As for American Dragon Jake Long, my favorite Disney Channel original cartoon of all time, sure, the animation change in season 2 was a bad idea, but that didn't effect how much better the story-line in season 2 than it was in season 1.

Barely there?! ???  Are u joking? ;D
HSM and Hannah Montana became very popular that year. I remember. ;)


Even though I said that Hannah Montana premiered in early 2006, which would still give it a long screen time for Disney Channel that year. As for HSM, I believe that franchise was more late 2000s, since the sequels gave it more fan service.

Last year you said it did change overnight.....
Also the last seasons of some of those shows I thought were terrible.


Maybe he changed his mind over Disney Channel. I mean, 2006 wasn't that bad for Disney Channel.

Maybe he changed his mind over Disney Channel. I mean, 2006 wasn't that bad for Disney Channel.


I never changed my mind. It's always been the same. You people aren't just reading my opinions properly. Go back and read my previous comment.

I never changed my mind. It's always been the same. You people aren't just reading my opinions properly. Go back and read my previous comment.


Heh. So I guess Eric wasn't knowing that much about your opinions.

I don't lump Hannah Montana with Lizzie McGuire. I think those two are completely different. But I do lump it with shows and movies from 2004. Lizzie Mcguire/Even Stevens era is like 2000-2003, That's So Raven era 2003-2007 (which Hannah Montana belongs to), then the bad era in disney 2007 - present. Well I don't watch disney anymore so I don't know if it's as bad or not.

You had Disney Channel growing up? I got it in 2007 or so and by then it was already a nuisance.  8-P

You had Disney Channel growing up? I got it in 2007 or so and by then it was already a nuisance.  8-P

No I didn't. I had Family Channel which was the Canadian version of Disney channel. It had all Disney shows. It had Nick shows and exclusive Canadian shows too.

No I didn't. I had Family Channel which was the Canadian version of Disney channel. It had all Disney shows. It had Nick shows and exclusive Canadian shows too.


Yeah, that's what I had too. I didn't really watch it until 2003 and stopped after 2004, so I can't really say what the golden age is ;D

I don't lump Hannah Montana with Lizzie McGuire. I think those two are completely different. But I do lump it with shows and movies from 2004. Lizzie Mcguire/Even Stevens era is like 2000-2003, That's So Raven era 2003-2007 (which Hannah Montana belongs to), then the bad era in disney 2007 - present.


No, Hannah Montana was a separate era from That's So Raven. The Hannah Montana era was defined by shows like Hannah Montana itself, Wizards of Waverly Place, JONAS, Sonny With A Chance, Suite Life On Deck, and movies like High School Musical 1-3 or Camp Rock 1-2. Hannah Montana lasted from 2006-2011, I'm pretty sure the majority of its run was during the bad Disney Channel era from 2007 & onwards. Besides, That's So Raven's peak in popularity was from 2003-2005 or seasons 1-3. 2006-07 or season 4 the show was no longer as good as it was before. Suite Life of Zack & Cody was a show that aired as a hybrid between the That's So Raven and Hannah Montana eras.

Yeah, that's what I had too. I didn't really watch it until 2003 and stopped after 2004, so I can't really say what the golden age is ;D

I watched it from 2001 all the way until 2011. It was definitely a big part of my childhood lol.

No, Hannah Montana was a separate era from That's So Raven. The Hannah Montana era was defined by shows like Hannah Montana itself, Wizards of Waverly Place, JONAS, Sonny With A Chance, Suite Life On Deck, and movies like High School Musical 1-3 or Camp Rock 1-2. Hannah Montana lasted from 2006-2011, I'm pretty sure the majority of its run was during the bad Disney Channel era from 2007 & onwards. Besides, That's So Raven's peak in popularity was from 2003-2005 or seasons 1-3. 2006-07 or season 4 the show was no longer as good as it was before. Suite Life of Zack & Cody was a show that aired as a hybrid between the That's So Raven and Hannah Montana eras.

I meant the first and second season of Hannah Montana only. As for Suite Life, the first and second season of that show were only good too. For Wizards of Waverly Place only the first season was good.

I meant the first and second season of Hannah Montana only. As for Suite Life, the first and second season of that show were only good too. For Wizards of Waverly Place only the first season was good.


Yes I totally agree! Seasons 1 & 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody was my main time watching the show!

No I didn't. I had Family Channel which was the Canadian version of Disney channel. It had all Disney shows. It had Nick shows and exclusive Canadian shows too.


There was a Family Channel here in the USA as well.

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/70/Familychanneluk2.JPG

This is the channel that is today known as "Freeform", previously known as Fox Family Channel, and then ABC Family Channel. It was originally started by infamous televangelist Pat Robertson in the 1970's. By the time I started watching it in the '90s, it mostly showed cheesy daytime game shows like Supermarket Sweep and classic westerns like Bonanza and Little House on the Prairie.

I know this post was extremely random, but you guys were mostly talking about Disney shows from the mid/late '00s that I've never seen before, so I had to come up with something to chime in about. ;D

All of 2006 was "classic" 00s in my opinion. However, the last few months seemed to foreshadow the late 00s.

All of 2006 was "classic" 00s in my opinion. However, the last few months seemed to foreshadow the late 00s.


Eh. I do think that 2006 was a bit different from 2007. But 2008 and 2009 seem like the modern 2000s.

Eh. I do think that 2006 was a bit different from 2007. But 2008 and 2009 seem like the modern 2000s.

I didn't really notice a difference between 2006 and 2007. I think Facebook only started to get popular super late 2007. I guess the release of Vista was a pretty big event. What differences did you notice?

Eh. I do think that 2006 was a bit different from 2007. But 2008 and 2009 seem like the modern 2000s.


Late 2005 onwards started to feel more technologically modern. The iPod became a status symbol, social media really took off, the flip phones were everywhere at that point, laptops became much more common, and if you were more tech savvy, then you most likely heard of YouTube sometime in 2005/2006.

Late 2005 onwards started to feel more technologically modern. The iPod became a status symbol, social media really took off, the flip phones were everywhere at that point, laptops became much more common, and if you were more tech savvy, then you most likely heard of YouTube sometime in 2005/2006.

Well I would say 2004 actually. MySpace and flip phones already started to get popular in 2004. Even though it wasn't popular at all, Facebook was created in 2004 which kind started the social media revolution. IPods were already very popular in 2003 and 2004. The first IPod was released in 2001, and was already well established by 2003-2004. Same goes for laptops actually. The only big difference with technology from 2005 onwards is YouTube, and the release of smartphones in the late 00s. The big changes in tech started in 2004 in my opinion. Then they gradually improved later on the decade with new updates and improvements (like BuRay, HD TVs, Digital downloads, etc.)

I didn't really notice a difference between 2006 and 2007. I think Facebook only started to get popular super late 2007. I guess the release of Vista was a pretty big event. What differences did you notice?


Well like you said, Windows Vista was released in 2007. There was also some rebrands that happened on TV, but it wasn't major. That's why I said that 2007 wasn't that different compared to 2006.

There was a Family Channel here in the USA as well.

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/70/Familychanneluk2.JPG

This is the channel that is today known as "Freeform", previously known as Fox Family Channel, and then ABC Family Channel. It was originally started by infamous televangelist Pat Robertson in the 1970's. By the time I started watching it in the '90s, it mostly showed cheesy daytime game shows like Supermarket Sweep and classic westerns like Bonanza and Little House on the Prairie.

I know this post was extremely random, but you guys were mostly talking about Disney shows from the mid/late '00s that I've never seen before, so I had to come up with something to chime in about. ;D


I think I had Fox Family. Did they air Sailor Moon and Donkey Kong Country?

I didn't really notice a difference between 2006 and 2007.

I agree , 2007 just like late 2006.

Late 2005 onwards started to feel more technologically modern. The iPod became a status symbol, social media really took off, the flip phones were everywhere at that point, laptops became much more common, and if you were more tech savvy, then you most likely heard of YouTube sometime in 2005/2006.


I watched a video on YouTube for the first time in January 2006. It seems like that was when the site first started to gain some real cultural traction. I know that by February of '06 YT already had an impressive collection of obscure New Wave videos, which was huge for me because I was going through a big "'80s phase" at the time. Also, early 2006 was when I first started my MySpace account, and began noticing large numbers of my friends joining the site as well, so I agree that late 2005/early 2006 was unquestionably a changeful time.


Well I would say 2004 actually. MySpace and flip phones already started to get popular in 2004. Even though it wasn't popular at all, Facebook was created in 2004 which kind started the social media revolution. IPods were already very popular in 2003 and 2004. The first IPod was released in 2001, and was already well established by 2003-2004. Same goes for laptops actually. The only big difference with technology from 2005 onwards is YouTube, and the release of smartphones in the late 00s. The big changes in tech started in 2004 in my opinion. Then they gradually improved later on the decade with new updates and improvements (like BuRay, HD TVs, Digital downloads, etc.)


You're right about the iPod originally being released in 2001, and MP3 players in general do date back at least as far as the late '90s. Keep in mind, though, that it still took quite some time for them to supplant CD players as the dominant medium for listening to music portably. Even after late 2003 (when the iTunes Store made it's debut) the overwhelming majority of kids at my school (including me) still continued using CD players for some time. This was for three main reasons:

1. Familiarity with the format.
2. The expensive price of MP3 players at the time.
3. A lack of access to high-speed internet, making downloading songs an almost impossible chore.

For me, this only started to change in 2005, when broadband internet finally started becoming available in my area, and the price of the iPod started to gradually drop to an affordably point. 2004 was the last year that I brought more CD's than digital downloads.


I think I had Fox Family. Did they air Sailor Moon and Donkey Kong Country?


Yes, it aired both of those shows. You're lucky if you did have Fox Family for the short time it existed (1998-2001), because that's like my favorite cable channel of all-time. Seriously, I have a weird nostalgic obsession with it. ;D

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/qUIdEIjbKp4/hqdefault.jpg

I just remember watching a lot of Youtube.

Even though they weren't nearly as popular here as they were in the Y2K era, 2006 was probably the last time Smash Mouth was semi-relevant, doing the soundtrack to the movie Zoom and releasing the semi-popular songs "So Insane" and "Everyday superhero".

This adds to the theme of 2006 being very much a "finale" year.

Even though they weren't nearly as popular here as they were in the Y2K era, 2006 was probably the last time Smash Mouth was semi-relevant, doing the soundtrack to the movie Zoom and releasing the semi-popular songs "So Insane" and "Everyday superhero".

This adds to the theme of 2006 being very much a "finale" year.


I'm pretty sure a lot of people would debate on this, but isn't Smash Mouth remembered as the band from the first Shrek's opening theme? It's true that most of their songs are from the early 2000s and before, since it was released in 2001. But if you could talk to a lot of 2000s kids about Smash Mouth, one thing that comes to mind was that "All Star" song that was featured in Shrek. Hell, if it wasn't for that, Smash Mouth wouldn't be as popular as it was back then. It just makes the song a timeless classic, unless somebody would find it to be lame and move on to something else.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people would debate on this, but isn't Smash Mouth remembered as the band from the first Shrek's opening theme? It's true that most of their songs are from the early 2000s and before, since it was released in 2001. But if you could talk to a lot of 2000s kids about Smash Mouth, one thing that comes to mind was that "All Star" song that was featured in Shrek. Hell, if it wasn't for that, Smash Mouth wouldn't be as popular as it was back then. It just makes the song a timeless classic, unless somebody would find it to be lame and move on to something else.


What!? All Star was already huge in 1999 when it first came out. Shrek or no Shrek, it'd still be remembered as a cheesy late 90's hit. Nobody thinks of it as a "classic" either. Definitely not timeless. There's more mockery than anything.

What!? All Star was already huge in 1999 when it first came out. Shrek or no Shrek, it'd still be remembered as a cheesy late 90's hit. Nobody thinks of it as a "classic" either. Definitely not timeless. There's more mockery than anything.


Heck, even before "All Star," Smash Mouth already attained gigantic success with "Walkin' on the Sun" in late 1997, and even "Can't Get Enough of You Baby" was pretty successful in mid-1998.

What!? All Star was already huge in 1999 when it first came out. Shrek or no Shrek, it'd still be remembered as a cheesy late 90's hit. Nobody thinks of it as a "classic" either. Definitely not timeless. There's more mockery than anything.


Heck, even before "All Star," Smash Mouth already attained gigantic success with "Walkin' on the Sun" in late 1997, and even "Can't Get Enough of You Baby" was pretty successful in mid-1998.


Yes, but they wouldn't have All Star as a timeless classic if it wasn't on Shrek. Considering how Shrek is still being watched by kids, along with being a meme, kids today could still hear Smash Mouth's All Star in the movie.

Yes, but they wouldn't have All Star as a timeless classic if it wasn't on Shrek. Considering how Shrek is still being watched by kids, along with being a meme, kids today could still hear Smash Mouth's All Star in the movie.


It is true that reusing old songs can give them a whole new level of popularity, often to different generations as well. "Misirlou." "I Like to Move It." "Don't Stop Believin'." Do you think of the early 60s, mid-90s, and early 80s, respectively when those are brought up? Perhaps those who grew up with them when they first came out did, but in fact, a lot of other people instead think of the mid-90s, mid-2000s, and late 2000s, respectively.

Shrek came out only two years after "All Star" was originally a hit, but I can vouch for myself when I say I always think of Shrek whenever that song starts playing, even though I had heard it on the radio before the film's release.

It is true that reusing old songs can give them a whole new level of popularity, often to different generations as well. "Misirlou." "I Like to Move It." "Don't Stop Believin'." Do you think of the early 60s, mid-90s, and early 80s, respectively when those are brought up? Perhaps those who grew up with them when they first came out did, but in fact, a lot of other people instead think of the mid-90s, mid-2000s, and late 2000s, respectively.


Well for anything, "Misirlou" was used in Pulp Fiction, a movie with a soundtrack of 50s-70s songs. So, of course it was used to fit in with the retro theme of the movie. Which is Quentin Tarantino's signature theme for his movies. You could name any movie of his that either has a retro soundtrack or setting like Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, Kill Bill (although the theme is modern), Inglorious Basterds, Django Unchained, or The Hateful Eight. As for "I Like To Move It", when it was used in Madagascar, it did had the same legacy just as "All Star" in Shrek, except that it had Will.I.Am make a cover of "I Like To Move It" for the sequel because of its popularity. The only song that was more popular in its own decade you mentioned was "Don't Stop Belivin'". I could get that it was featured in The Sopranos' series finale, but it didn't spark up any popularity after that. It just showed the fans a message to don't stop believing about The Sopranos' legacy, especially when it cut to black after the chorus. Hell, even when I think about the song, it just reminds me of the early 80s, not the late 2000s.


Shrek came out only two years after "All Star" was originally a hit, but I can vouch for myself when I say I always think of Shrek whenever that song starts playing, even though I had heard it on the radio before the film's release.


Well, Shrek basically had a soundtrack from the late 90s/early 2000s. So, I suppose Smash Mouth would do something for Dreamworks when the movie was releasing by not only featuring "All Star" for the movie, but also make a cover for "I'm A Believer" in the ending of the movie.

The only song that was more popular in its own decade you mentioned was "Don't Stop Belivin'". I could get that it was featured in The Sopranos' series finale, but it didn't spark up any popularity after that. It just showed the fans a message to don't stop believing about The Sopranos' legacy, especially when it cut to black after the chorus. Hell, even when I think about the song, it just reminds me of the early 80s, not the late 2000s.

Well, not only was "Don't Stop Believin'" used in the Sopranos finale, it was also featured in the debut episode of Glee from 2009. I remember hearing that song constantly around 11th and 12th grade, both on the radio, as well as from my peers. You could technically say that makes it both late 2000s and early 2010s, but regardless, it was undeniably an immense success with the millennial generation around the turn of the decade, even though it was also extremely popular in 1981.

Well, not only was "Don't Stop Believin'" used in the Sopranos finale, it was also featured in the debut episode of Glee from 2009. I remember hearing that song constantly around 11th and 12th grade, both on the radio, as well as from my peers. You could technically say that makes it both late 2000s and early 2010s, but regardless, it was undeniably an immense success with the millennial generation around the turn of the decade, even though it was also extremely popular in 1981.


Well, I guess it was popular during the late 2000s/early 2010s. Especially with being a huge hit with Glee's cover, but it's still an 80s classic to some people.

Yes, but they wouldn't have All Star as a timeless classic if it wasn't on Shrek. Considering how Shrek is still being watched by kids, along with being a meme, kids today could still hear Smash Mouth's All Star in the movie.


But All Star isn't a timeless classic. Like, it's Smash Mouth; I've never heard one person refer to them as "timeless". Sure, people are nostalgic for it but more as a novelty thing from way back than an actual classic. Don't Stop Believer, however, is something that would be more believable as a timeless classic (and it's definitely proven to be pretty timeless if you ask me). 

Ironically, WatchMojo called "Walkin' on the Sun" Smash Mouth's only good song in a countdown posted just yesterday, referring to "All Star" as the main reason so many people hate the group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgI7LOmC8A

Ironically, WatchMojo called "Walkin' on the Sun" Smash Mouth's only good song in a countdown posted just yesterday, referring to "All Star" as the main reason so many people hate the group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgI7LOmC8A


It's just Watchmojo's opinion on what they say about Smash Mouth. I still think that All Star was still a good song, although it's a bit overrated towards the general population.

Bug Juice was kinda cheesy! ::)

Aww yeah I forgot about 1983-1996 era :o, that's REAL old school!!  ;D ;)
It's ashame you quit watching the network during that time frame. Kim Possible and Raven rocked! :D

I never saw the "real old school" Disney Channel (83-97), but apparently they used to have reruns of shows like Ready Steady Go. Imagine that: DISNEY CHANNEL, widely known to be a "teen pop" channel since the late 90s, playing 60s rock music like The Who and Dave Clark Five. That's something I don't think they would do today - or ever again, probably. ;)

I never saw the "real old school" Disney Channel (83-97), but apparently they used to have reruns of shows like Ready Steady Go. Imagine that: DISNEY CHANNEL, widely known to be a "teen pop" channel since the late 90s, playing 60s rock music like The Who and Dave Clark Five. That's something I don't think they would do today - or ever again, probably. ;)


I don't think they would reminisce over their oldest era and think it would amuse today's preteens. They're not like Nickelodeon, of where they think their golden age is their cashcow. I mean, look at The Splat for crying out loud.

Another thing that changed in 2006 that nobody here mentioned is Apple's transition from PowerPC to Intel processors. Not only did the internal chips change, but the external design of the computers changed too.

Computers like the iBook, eMac, and PowerBook had a very "Y2K aesthetic" to them, while their 2006 successors like the the Macbook and the Intel iMac felt comparatively grey and dull. The new Macs run faster and are generally better, but I kind of miss the old colourful look to them.

Another thing that changed in 2006 that nobody here mentioned is Apple's transition from PowerPC to Intel processors. Not only did the internal chips change, but the external design of the computers changed too.


But it doesn't seem that important back in 2006. In my honest opinion, Apple was going through its modern Macintosh age when Mac OS X was released in 2001. Especially when it's still their recent OS, but with different versions. But I'm not saying it's modern as the 2010s. It's just that Apple never had a different OS for its computers since then. Saying that Apple transitioned towards PowerPC to Intel processors back in 2006 wasn't that relevant towards the company, since they had more than just that. Besides, 2007 was the true transitional year for Apple. It was when Mac OS X Leopard was released, which was the first version with the 3D Dock, and most importantly, the year when the iPhone was unveiled towards the general public.


Computers like the iBook, eMac, and PowerBook had a very "Y2K aesthetic" to them, while their 2006 successors like the the Macbook and the Intel iMac felt comparatively grey and dull. The new Macs run faster and are generally better, but I kind of miss the old colourful look to them.


I disagree. My grandmother had an eMac which ran a bit slow, and she got it from the mid 2000s. When she got a newer intel iMac around 2014, it ran really fast. Probably faster than those Macintosh computers from the early-mid 2000s. And that's saying something.

I disagree. My grandmother had an eMac which ran a bit slow, and she got it from the mid 2000s. When she got a newer intel iMac around 2014, it ran really fast. Probably faster than those Macintosh computers from the early-mid 2000s. And that's saying something.

I'm not saying the old Macs are better, cause they're mostly not (new Macs are faster and have more capabilities). I just like the outward design and aesthetics of the old Macs better.

I'm not saying the old Macs are better, cause they're mostly not (new Macs are faster and have more capabilities). I just like the outward design and aesthetics of the old Macs better.


Well okay. I kinda like the eMac design to be my favorite, but it's gone nowadays. You'll probably just see them at vintage stores or eBay.

Ironically, WatchMojo called "Walkin' on the Sun" Smash Mouth's only good song in a countdown posted just yesterday, referring to "All Star" as the main reason so many people hate the group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDgI7LOmC8A


Rollin? Oh no! Limp Bizkit have no good songs! ;D

But yeah, All Star's definitely more of a novelty/annoyance of the past for most people than anything. Don't Stop Believing and Anyway You Want it, too, I totally see as more timeless due to their stuff coming back into popular culture almost 30 years after it's initial success and just for being songs a lot of people just genuinely enjoy without being a "guilty pleasure".


It's just Watchmojo's opinion on what they say about Smash Mouth. I still think that All Star was still a good song, although it's a bit overrated towards the general population.


Overrated towards the general population? In 1999, sure. Even in 2001 sure. In 2016? Not really.

Overrated towards the general population? In 1999, sure. Even in 2001 sure. In 2016? Not really.


Well, I just think All Star is like a classic to people who liked late 90s/early 2000s music.

Well, I just think All Star is like a classic to people who liked late 90s/early 2000s music.


Are you sure? I've never heard anyone go as fun as call it a classic. ???

Are you sure? I've never heard anyone go as fun as call it a classic. ???


I don't know. The only people I know that like late 90s/early 2000s music are from the Internet, since a lot of my friends are just too modern.

Yes defiantly. Summer of 2006 felt like the end of a long and special  era. and then... the fall of 06 felt like the start of a new brief one before late 2008 hit.

When you saw the last episodes of shows like Malcolm in the Middle, Inuyasha, Yu Yu Hakusho, Charmed, That 70s Show, etc., did you... er, cry when the credits rolled, knowing a book was being closed on that special era? :)

When you saw the last episodes of shows like Malcolm in the Middle, Inuyasha, Yu Yu Hakusho, Charmed, That 70s Show, etc., did you... er, cry when the credits rolled, knowing a book was being closed on that special era? :)

Yu Yu Hakusho and That 70s Show kinda... :-[ ;D ;) Both series were declining, so I wasn't too sad. But yeah I was still going to miss wathcing new episodes. :\'( :\'( :\'(
Inuyasha and Malcom in the Middle on the other hand :o ::); I remember being pretty pissed they were ending. ;D ;)

Wow. I'm glad Zelek FINALLY got back on topic to talking about 2006.  :)
We were getting wayyyy off base!! ;D :-[