What do you guys think are the pros and cons of the rock from these two decades.

Xtreme Emo is the best. MySpace Emo sucks.

Great, another thread that argues about emo music.  :P

Also, 90s/2000s rock is equally good to me.

90s and early 00s rock is equally good.

Rock from the real 00s sucks.

90s Pros:
* Grunge.
* The best pop punk.
* Pre-Human Clay post-grunge.
* Britpop.
* General culture of experimentation.
* Breakbeat alternative.

00s Pros:
* Peak of indie rock.
* The White Stripes, Arctic Monkeys, and Arcade Fire.
* Underground songs generally have more complex structures, though this trend really began in 1997 with Radiohead's OK Computer.

90s Cons:
* Some of the more popular songs on the radio lacked the vivacity of 80s rock..

00s Cons:
* Much more manufactured.
* Mostly a continuation of genres that existed in the 90s, only less interesting.
* The best rock music doesn't expand far beyond the indie category.

Good 00s rock song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fYIqvozrE

Good 00s rock song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9fYIqvozrE


Here's a better Post-Hardcore song from the kings:

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Here's a better Post-Hardcore song from the kings:

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Pretty good song but not better than Fall of Troy imo.
Also ATDI is Post-Hardocre

Pretty good song but not better than Fall of Troy imo.


That is fine as it's your opinion but I gotta that Glassjaw are probably the best Post-Hardcore band. The early records of bands like Refused, The Used, ATDI, Thursday, Keepsake and Glasseater are also up there with the good stuff.


Also ATDI is Post-Hardocre


They're definitely Post-Hardcore but they're also pretty Emo.

That is fine as it's your opinion but I gotta that Glassjaw are probably the best Post-Hardcore band. The early records of bands like Refused, The Used, ATDI, Thursday, Keepsake and Glasseater are also up there with the good stuff.

They're definitely Post-Hardcore but they're also pretty Emo.


The closest thing ATDI comes to emo imo is Napoleon Solo.

The closest thing ATDI comes to emo in imo is Napoleon Solo.


That's their most Emo song but if you listen to the melodies, songwriting and chord progressions on In/Casino/Out and Relationship you can hear the Emo. ATDI and Glassjaw have incredibly similar sounds but I look at it like this: ATDI is Post-Hardcore but they have a noticeable amount of an Emo focus whereas Glassjaw are more Post-Hardcore with a small but still apparent Emo focus. I've always seen Worship and Tribute as the less Emo, louder and heavier cousin to Relationship in Command.

That's their most Emo song but if you listen to the melodies, songwriting and chord progressions on In/Casino/Out and Relationship you can hear the Emo. ATDI and Glassjaw have incredibly similar sounds but I look at it like this: ATDI is Post-Hardcore but they have a noticeable amount of an Emo focus whereas Glassjaw are more Post-Hardcore with a small but still apparent Emo focus. I've always seen Worship and Tribute as the less Emo, louder and heavier cousin to Relationship in Command.


**cough** Relationship in Command is the better album **cough**

**cough** Relationship in Command is the better album **cough**


You're entitled to your opinion. I like and own both Relationship and Worship so it doesn't matter to me. Quality early 00's Post-Hardcore. I still think Relationship is a lot more Emo and less heavy than Worship. There's soft moments on the album but overall it's an incredibly heavy and metallic Post-Hardcore album, like Glassjaw is in general. Both EYEWTKAS and W&T are like this while In/Casino/Out and Relationship in Command are somewhat softer (but they're also pretty trippy) and showcase the Emo side of Post-Hardcore.

Most Rock beyond 2003 sucks. That's only my opinion! :P

Most Rock beyond 2003 sucks. That's only my opinion! :P


This is the right opinion, Ripley. I also agree. 8)

This is the right opinion, Ripley. I also agree. 8)

;)

Ripley and Jordan suck it!!!! >:( ;D
These songs rock as a kid!!
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Ripley and Jordan suck it!!!! >:( ;D


Ripley and I know the truth. Before 2003, Rock was a really good and incredibly diverse and fun genre. After 2003, it went the way of the suck. ;)

So these songs sucked too? ???

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So these songs sucked too? ???

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A lot of those songs are pre-2003. Like, Nothing Left Too Lose is from Puddle of Mudd's 2003 album (also, the song sounds straight outta 1997).

A lot of them do kinda suck, though. :-\\

A lot of those songs are pre-2003. Like, Nothing Left Too Lose is from Puddle of Mudd's 2003 album (also, the song sounds straight outta 1997).

A lot of them do kinda suck, though. :-\\

I'll admit some of the latter 2005 songs sucked, but Backlash 2004-Summerslam 2005 songs were all kickass! :D

I'll admit some of the latter 2005 songs sucked, but Backlash 2004-Summerslam 2005 songs were all kickass! :D


I still think Rock music 2003 and before was much better. 8)

I still think Rock music 2003 and before was much better. 8)


That's cus your a dunce Jordan.

I still think Rock music 2003 and before was much better. 8)

Well of course it was! ;D ;) ,  I just don't think mid 00s rock was THAT BAD! :o ;)

That's cus your a dunce Jordan.


Says you, Mattejiogu. The biggest dunce of all. ;)


Well of course it was! ;D ;) ,  I just don't think mid 00s rock was THAT BAD! :o ;)


Fair enough! I am just not a big fan of mid 00s rock at all but I think the early 00s totally ruled.

Says you, Mattejiogu. The biggest dunce of all. ;)

Fair enough! I am just not a big fan of mid 00s rock at all but I think the early 00s totally ruled.


Do you like Green Day? It's okay if you don't, I'm just curious.

Do you like Green Day? It's okay if you don't, I'm just curious.

Pre American Idiot Green Day FTW!!!! :D
Although I must admit.... I did like ''Wake me Up till September Ends!'' ;D ;D ;D

Says you, cool123 The biggest dunce of all. ;)

Fair enough! I am just not a big fan of mid 00s rock at all but I think the early 00s totally ruled.


Why don't you go to an old folks home where people will actually give a s*it about what your saying.

Pre American Idiot Green Day FTW!!!! :D
Although I must admit.... I did like ''Wake me Up till September Ends!'' ;D ;D ;D


American Idiot was their last good album, IMO.

Do you like Green Day? It's okay if you don't, I'm just curious.


Green Day are the band who got me into Punk when they released Dookie back in 1994. I was a huge, huge fan from then up to 2002. When they released American Idiot in 2004 I was hugely disappointed and ever since then I have not liked the band at all. The Green Day I grew up with died April 18th, 2003.


Why don't you go to an old folks home where people will actually give a s*it about what your saying.


You shouldn't be posting on the computer without an adults permission. ;)

You shouldn't be posting on the computer without an adults permission. ;)

Stay strong Jordan! Stay Strong! ;D ;)

Why don't you go to an old folks home where people will actually give a s*it about what your saying.


I don't think there are old people who likes the early 2000s now. They'll probably see it as somewhat recent to them. However, Jordan would make their retirement home look Xtreme!.

Stay strong Jordan! Stay Strong! ;D ;)


Haha, thanks! O0

Stay strong Jordan! Stay Strong! ;D ;)


You stay out of mine and Jordan's business.

You stay out of mine and Jordan's business.


Nah, you should stay out of Jordan's business.

Nah, you should stay out of Jordan's business.


Botch who tha fuk evan incuded u in thas shat?!

Green Day are the band who got me into Punk when they released Dookie back in 1994. I was a huge, huge fan from then up to 2002. When they released American Idiot in 2004 I was hugely disappointed and ever since then I have not liked the band at all. The Green Day I grew up with died April 18th, 2003.

You shouldn't be posting on the computer without an adults permission. ;)


;D

Botch who tha fuk evan incuded u in thas shat?!


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I love rock from both decades, particularly the mid-late '90s and the early-mid '00s. Actually, I would say that "my era" musically is roughly 1996-2006, as before '96 I was too young to care, and after '06 I stopped following pop culture as closely as I had been.

If I just had to pick one decade though, I'd probably lean ever so slightly to '00s rock, mostly because of the Garage Rock/Post-Punk revival stuff that was so popular between 2001-2006. The Strokes, The White Stripes, Interpol, The Arctic Monkeys, The Killers, The Hives, Franz Ferdinand, man that era had some kickass rock! 8)

That's cus your a dunce Jordan.


Why don't you leave him alone! >:(

Why don't you leave him alone! >:(


Thank you, Howard. You're a cool dude. O0

Thank you, Howard. You're a cool dude. O0


You're welcome. :)

I loved Dookie! It was one of the first albums I got into. And it's my favorite Punk album of all time.

I loved Dookie! It was one of the first albums I got into. And it's my favorite Punk album of all time.


Me too! Dookie and Smash got me into Pop Punk back when they came out in 1994. American Idiot was a huge disappointment for me considering how much I loved Green Day back in the day. I made sure I saw them every time I got the chance.

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More real '00s rock

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More real '00s rock

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And Jordan says real 00s rock sucks.

And Jordan says real 00s rock sucks.


So? I don't agree with most of his crap. And didn't you post three links of real 00s rock songs?

So? I don't agree with most of his crap. And didn't you post three links of real 00s rock songs?


Yes I was agreeing with you that real 00s rock is good.

Yes I was agreeing with you that real 00s rock is good.


Okay.

One of my favorite songs from real 00s rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC5FdFlUcl0

And Jordan says real 00s rock sucks.


I'm right you know. Those bands you guys posted who existed pre-2003 had much better material pre-2003. ;)

Take a listen:
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So? I don't agree with most of his crap. And didn't you post three links of real 00s rock songs?


::)

I'm right you know. Those bands you guys posted who existed pre-2003 had much better material pre-2003. ;)

Take a listen:
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::)



Oh great the old man's back.

Oh great the old man's back.


;)

Good Real 00s rock song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ekz_CSBVg

A good song from the early 2000's when Pop Punk actually was Pop Punk and not some sh!tty faux-Emo garbage:

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I'm right you know. Those bands you guys posted who existed pre-2003 had much better material pre-2003. ;)

Take a listen:
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Breaking Benjamin FTW!

A good song from the early 2000's when Pop Punk actually was Pop Punk and not some sh!tty faux-Emo garbage:

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F*ck ur early 00s music it's all about Three Days Grace.

Breaking Benjamin FTW!


Their first album is pretty good!


F*ck ur early 00s music it's all about Three Days Grace.


Three Days Grace is lame Post-Post-Grunge infused with bad faux-Emo. It sounds like Fall Out Boy if they wanted to play "heavier".

F*ck ur early 00s music it's all about Three Days Grace.


Dude, early 2000s music was alright. At least it wasn't mid 2010s bad.

Dude, early 2000s music was alright. At least it wasn't mid 2010s bad.


I don't hate early 00s music, I just can't stand him. He always brags about how early 00s music is superior to real 00s music. It's really tiring. It's like when I talk about the late 00s at some point you get tired of the s*it I'm saying.

I don't hate early 00s music, I just can't stand him. He always brags about how early 00s music is superior to real 00s music. It's really tiring. It's like when I talk about the late 00s at some point you get tired of the s*it I'm saying.


So? He has a right to talk about early 2000s pop culture. Even though I never remembered teen culture in the early 2000s, since I was very young at the time. Especially when I only remembered toddler/kid culture back then.

So? He has a right to talk about early 2000s pop culture. Even though I never remembered teen culture in the early 2000s, since I was very young at the time. Especially when I only remembered toddler/kid culture back then.


I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to talk about the early 00s culture. I think he should stop holding early 00s music up to a godly status.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to talk about the early 00s culture. I think he should stop holding early 00s music up to a godly status.


Yeah, but it's not like anybody could stop him. He likes the early 2000s. It's not like he's offending us in a serious manner.

Yeah, but it's not like anybody could stop him. He likes the early 2000s. It's not like he's offending us in a serious manner.


Speaking of early 2000's, this recent video right here I found is soooo cancerous!!! The title of this video is so misleading and all of what they're saying is not 100% true, and the comments on the video are a bunch of young (immature) teens who don't have their facts straight.

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YouTube comments are usually mind-numbingly stupid. For some reason, the most cancerous commenters tend to have Sonic the hedgehog, MLP, anime, or Minecraft avatars. :P (not saying those things are bad in and of themselves).

Also, this will enrage Jordan further, but it seems that as time goes on, I've noticed more and more people using "early 2000s" to refer to the whole 2000s decade, rather than just 2000-2003. I would complain, but I guess it kinda makes sense, considering when people say "early 1900s", it's usually the 1900s-1920s. :P

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to talk about the early 00s culture. I think he should stop holding early 00s music up to a godly status.


More music from the godly early 2000's:

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Yeah, but it's not like anybody could stop him. He likes the early 2000s. It's not like he's offending us in a serious manner.


I agree.


Speaking of early 2000's, this recent video right here I found is soooo cancerous!!! The title of this video is so misleading and all of what they're saying is not 100% true, and the comments on the video are a bunch of young (immature) teens who don't have their facts straight.

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Christ, this is a terrible video. Why do they talk like morons? Jesus, it's like they want to go back to 2005 or something.


YouTube comments are usually mind-numbingly stupid. For some reason, the most cancerous commenters tend to have Sonic the hedgehog, MLP, anime, or Minecraft avatars. :P (not saying those things are bad in and of themselves).

Also, this will enrage Jordan further, but it seems that as time goes on, I've noticed more and more people using "early 2000s" to refer to the whole 2000s decade, rather than just 2000-2003. I would complain, but I guess it kinda makes sense, considering when people say "early 1900s", it's usually the 1900s-1920s. :P


Consider me enraged. I bet it's kids born in 2001-ish (younger than Sum 41's debut!) or something who call the whole 2000's the "early 00s".

Speaking of early 2000's, this recent video right here I found is soooo cancerous!!! The title of this video is so misleading and all of what they're saying is not 100% true, and the comments on the video are a bunch of young (immature) teens who don't have their facts straight.

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They literally thought High School Musical was an early 2000s movie, despite being released in 2006. Although, the early 2000s is really confusing for those who didn't truly remember it. Hell, I could only remember 2002 and 2003 of the era, and I would say they're WAY different than the mid 2000s.

YouTube comments are usually mind-numbingly stupid. For some reason, the most cancerous commenters tend to have Sonic the hedgehog, MLP, anime, or Minecraft avatars. :P (not saying those things are bad in and of themselves).

Also, this will enrage Jordan further, but it seems that as time goes on, I've noticed more and more people using "early 2000s" to refer to the whole 2000s decade, rather than just 2000-2003. I would complain, but I guess it kinda makes sense, considering when people say "early 1900s", it's usually the 1900s-1920s. :P


Not all of them are cancerous. Hell, even Sonic fans aren't that terrible compared to 2008/2009. However, I could say that MLP became cancerous as Sonic since 2010, when FIM premiered.

In reply to Jordan.

Christ, this is a terrible video. Why do they talk like morons? Jesus, it's like they want to go back to 2005 or something.

Consider me enraged. I bet it's kids born in 2001-ish (younger than Sum 41's debut!) or something who call the whole 2000's the "early 00s".


Yes Jordan people born in 2001 who are 00s kids would call the whole 2000s the "early 00s."

In reply to Jordan.
Yes Jordan people born in 2001 who are 00s kids would call the whole 2000s the "early 00s."


I don't really think he was referring to you. He was referring to the girls who made the video. But in any case, I don't know how you find the entire 2000s as the early 2000s. Politically, pop culturally, and world events wise, it wasn't the same.

2000 was basically the last full Clinton year.
2001-2003 were the early Bush years, with 9/11, the War on Terror, and Iraq War as common topics.
2004-2007 were Bush's main years, since that's when a lot of people didn't like him as president.
2008-2009 was the backlash of the decade, along with Obama's presidency rising up.

That's basically the 2000s as a whole, according to what I know about U.S. presidencies. Finding them all as the early 2000s seems weird. Nobody had YouTube, iPhones, HDTVs, or anything like that during the early 2000s. When I think about the early '00s, I think about the declining 90s vibes that continued from 1998 and 1999. That's the early 2000s to me. Though, some early 2000s kids like mqg96 could give a similar answer, but that's my thoughts.

I don't really think he was referring to you. He was referring to the girls who made the video. But in any case, I don't know how you find the entire 2000s as the early 2000s. Politically, pop culturally, and world events wise, it wasn't the same.

2000 was basically the last full Clinton year.
2001-2003 were the early Bush years, with 9/11, the War on Terror, and Iraq War as common topics.
2004-2007 were Bush's main years, since that's when a lot of people didn't like him as president.
2008-2009 was the backlash of the decade, along with Obama's presidency rising up.

That's basically the 2000s as a whole, according to what I know about U.S. presidencies. Finding them all as the early 2000s seems weird. Nobody had YouTube, iPhones, HDTVs, or anything like that during the early 2000s. When I think about the early '00s, I think about the declining 90s vibes that continued from 1998 and 1999. That's the early 2000s to me. Though, some early 2000s kids like mqg96 could give a similar answer, but that's my thoughts.


That whole the early 00s thing I said was sarcastic.

That whole the early 00s thing I said was sarcastic.


Oh. :/

I don't think calling the whole 00s the "early 2000s" seems entirely unreasonable. I mean, when people say "early 1900s", they often mean the 1900s-1920s, not 1900-1903.

I don't think calling the whole 00s the "early 2000s" seems entirely unreasonable. I mean, when people say "early 1900s", they often mean the 1900s-1920s, not 1900-1903.


True. But we're talking about people who think the early 2000s are 2000-2003, not the early 21st century.

In reply to Jordan.
Yes Jordan people born in 2001 who are 00s kids would call the whole 2000s the "early 00s."


Disgusting.


I don't really think he was referring to you. He was referring to the girls who made the video. But in any case, I don't know how you find the entire 2000s as the early 2000s. Politically, pop culturally, and world events wise, it wasn't the same.

2000 was basically the last full Clinton year.
2001-2003 were the early Bush years, with 9/11, the War on Terror, and Iraq War as common topics.
2004-2007 were Bush's main years, since that's when a lot of people didn't like him as president.
2008-2009 was the backlash of the decade, along with Obama's presidency rising up.

That's basically the 2000s as a whole, according to what I know about U.S. presidencies. Finding them all as the early 2000s seems weird. Nobody had YouTube, iPhones, HDTVs, or anything like that during the early 2000s. When I think about the early '00s, I think about the declining 90s vibes that continued from 1998 and 1999. That's the early 2000s to me. Though, some early 2000s kids like mqg96 could give a similar answer, but that's my thoughts.


I wouldn't call them "declining." At least, not until 2003.


I don't think calling the whole 00s the "early 2000s" seems entirely unreasonable. I mean, when people say "early 1900s", they often mean the 1900s-1920s, not 1900-1903.


But... That's sacrilege!! 

But... That's sacrilege!!

I'm guessing that's how some felt when people started referring to the United States as "America" (even though it's technically not). ;)

They fought will all their might to stop this inaccuracy and misinformation, but...they couldn't in the end.

I'm guessing that's how some felt when people started referring to the United States as "America" (even though it's technically not). ;)

They fought will all their might to stop this inaccuracy and misinformation, but...they couldn't in the end.


They call it the United States of "America", because the country's located in North America. Besides, nobody in America wouldn't even care, since we kept the name in 1776.

I'm guessing that's how some felt when people started referring to the United States as "America" (even though it's technically not). ;)

They fought will all their might to stop this inaccuracy and misinformation, but...they couldn't in the end.


I guess they didn't fight as hard as I'm about to. ;D

I don't think calling the whole 00s the "early 2000s" seems entirely unreasonable. I mean, when people say "early 1900s", they often mean the 1900s-1920s, not 1900-1903.


Well usually to not confuse people I say different words. Early 2000s to me is 2000-2003. Early 21st century would be 2000-2030s. 2000s can either be the century or the decade. But this is happens with the first decade of every century.

One of my favorite rock songs from the early 00s.
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Man the old man would probably hate this.
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Man the old man would probably hate this.
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Yeah, the early 00s had much better Post-Hardcore.

Yeah, the early 00s had much better Post-Hardcore.


FOT is way better than your sh*tty post hardcore band Glassjaw.

FOT is way better than your sh*tty post hardcore band Glassjaw.


Glassjaw is anything but sh!tty.

Good Charlotte in the early 00's:

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Loud, upbeat and rebellious!

Good Charlotte in the real 00's:

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Good Charlotte when they were a good band who added pseudo-raps into their music. You know if it's Pop Punk with lots of raps it's gonna be good 2000-2003 music:

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Then, in 2004 when the real 2000's began, like every other rock band with raps they got rid of the raps and turned super lame:

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Sum 41 were also really good Pop Punk back in the day and had lots of rap in their music:

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Then what happens in 2004? Sum 41 turned to total sh!t, of course. They started wearing their hair over their faces and making garbage songs that sounded like My Chemical Romance and Oasis b-sides but they decided that they were gonna do faux-Emo versions of Nu Metal and 80's Metallica, too.

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This one especially makes me cringe when he sings into the f*cking megaphone like he's the hero to some political rally. Shut the hell up! In 2001 and 2002 (the only good years of the 2000's along with 2000 and, to a lesser extent, 2003) you were rapping about Spider-Man, what do you know about politics? Go back to singing about chicks and spiking your hair...
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I remember I was at a house party in 2005 and we were watching MuchMusic ,amd Sum 41's Pieces came on. All the girls went crazy  :D I'll never hate that song haha. We had the whole thing memorized.

I remember I was at a house party in 2005 and we were watching MuchMusic ,amd Sum 41's Pieces came on. All the girls went crazy  :D I'll never hate that song haha. We had the whole thing memorized.


I remember in 2000 when Makes No Difference came out and I was stoked the Sums were going places. Then in 2001 and 2002 when all the cool videos from All Killer, No Filler were played on MTV I thought "this rules!" Then the video for What We're All About Came Out and I was totally into it. I remember when Still Waiting came out and I thought "RAD! This sounds like Strung Out!" and they did that hilarious Stokes parody. 2003, things were looking up when the totally sick video for The Hell Song came out and they were dicking around with their toys and crap but I should of just given up on the band when Deryck dated Paris Hilton and betrayed the Pop Punk brotherhood of 1994-2003.

If I was at this party I would of thrown my drink at the TV and intellectually exclaimed how abysmally abhorred the new Sum 41 number is. I would proceed to discuss my disappointment with and wish they would trek back to the olden days of before and rap about lame chicks and Spider-Man. Pieces!? I scoff at you! How absurd!

I remember in 2000 when Makes No Difference came out and I was stoked the Sums were going places. Then in 2001 and 2002 when all the cool videos from All Killer, No Filler were played on MTV I thought "this rules!" Then the video for What We're All About Came Out and I was totally into it. I remember when Still Waiting came out and I thought "RAD! This sounds like Strung Out!" and they did that hilarious Stokes parody. 2003, things were looking up when the totally sick video for The Hell Song came out and they were dicking around with their toys and crap but I should of just given up on the band when Deryck dated Paris Hilton and betrayed the Pop Punk brotherhood of 1994-2003.

If I was at this party I would of thrown my drink at the TV and intellectually exclaimed how abysmally abhorred the new Sum 41 number is. I would proceed to discuss my disappointment with and wish they would trek back to the olden days of before and rap about lame chicks and Spider-Man. Pieces!? I scoff at you! How absurd!


LOL he dated Paris Hilton? Mess.  ;D He married Avril Lavigne a few years later, that's when both their music got bad. They werent meant for each other. :(

I liked the lyrics to Pieces more. It was perfect for my teen angst. That and There's No Solution and We're All To Blame LMAO  ;D

LOL he dated Paris Hilton? Mess.  ;D He married Avril Lavigne a few years later, that's when both their music got bad. They werent meant for each other. :(

I liked the lyrics to Pieces more. It was perfect for my teen angst. That and There's No Solution and We're All To Blame LMAO  ;D


I told you this before, Paris Hilton destroy Sum 41 and their mighty legacy. They are one of the greatest Pop Punk bands of 2000-2003 but then Paris Hilton decided to f*ck things up. Avril was just beating a dead horse.

I prefer Rap Pop Punk about being pissed off at chicks and Spider-Man instead of songs about being sad about the MySpace servers being down for maintenance. If you're gonna be sad at least makes the music upbeat like Simple Plan did in 2002 when they were good. When he sings about how hard it is to be a kid I feel sorry for him because the music's good. When Panic at the Disco sing about how "dark" their hearts are it makes me wanna beat their ugly faces in.

The real Sum 41 (R.I.P. 1996-2003):

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Crap 41:

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Oh 2004 Simple Plan is awesome. I was at the mall and they played Welcome To My Life and I got hit with massive nostalgia. That's definitely the perfect teen angst song ;D Although I was more of a kid when I heard it. Kid angst?

Oh 2004 Simple Plan is awesome. I was at the mall and they played Welcome To My Life and I got hit with massive nostalgia. That's definitely the perfect teen angst song ;D Although I was more of a kid when I heard it. Kid angst?


It was anything but awesome... 8-P The first Simple Plan album is super good. The lyrics are kinda stupid but at least it wasn't about MySpace and they made up for it by being loud and fast! They used the skate punk beat on almost every song, too. Man, they even start singing about doing the nasty with aliens and crap. That's what real Pop Punk is about. Then, in 2004, they decided "oh, we need to tone it down and be lame" so they made that crappy "Still Not Getting Any" and it's all been downhill from there.

Real Simple Plan (R.I.P. 1999-2003):

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Simple Sh!t (2004-present):

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I thought you said you liked the 2004 album? Or was it just the Shut Up song?

I thought you said you liked the 2004 album? Or was it just the Shut Up song?


I only like a couple of songs but most of it is crap. How Could This Happen To Me!?!?! What is this? If I wanted to listen to Barbra Streisand and her crappy music then I'd listen to Barbra Streisand and her crappy music but I came here to listen to some speedy Pop Punk about not cleaning up your room! Shut Up is one of the few decent ones but that's about it. That album will never, ever touch the mighty No Pads, No Helmets... Just Balls which is one of the top Pop Punk records.

I only like a couple of songs but most of it is crap. How Could This Happen To Me!?!?! What is this? If I wanted to listen to Barbra Streisand and her crappy music then I'd listen to Barbra Streisand and her crappy music but I came here to listen to some speedy Pop Punk about not cleaning up your room! Shut Up is one of the few decent ones but that's about it. That album will never, ever touch the mighty No Pads, No Helmets... Just Balls which is one of the top Pop Punk records.

The 2002 one was good too. Any song in Cheaper By The Dozen is GOAT in my book ;D

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The 2002 one was good too. Any song in Cheaper By The Dozen is GOAT in my book ;D

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Only "good, too"!? I agree that Simple Plan's first album is of the GOAT's grass but you are vastly understating it's mighty elegance! It's much better than good, it's an absolutely superb Pop Punk album from the good old days! Man, I miss the second wave... 1994-2003 was my time, man. All those bands were totally rad. From Green Day and NoFX to blink-182 and Sum 41... R.I.P. second wave... :\'(

Only "good, too"!? I agree that Simple Plan's first album is of the GOAT's grass but you are vastly understating it's mighty elegance! It's much better than good, it's an absolutely superb Pop Punk album from the good old days! Man, I miss the second wave... 1994-2003 was my time, man. All those bands were totally rad. From Green Day and NoFX to blink-182 and Sum 41... R.I.P. second wave... :\'(


I'm feeling toned down today. My skinny jeans are just "good", not the "greatest".  :-\\

I heard American Psycho on the classic rock station today. ;D does that count as 2000s or 90s?

I'm feeling toned down today. My skinny jeans are just "good", not the "greatest".  :-\\

I heard American Psycho on the classic rock station today. ;D does that count as 2000s or 90s?


Wow! You really are toned down today! :\'( :-\\

It came out in 2000 so it's faux-90's and what-if 00's which is the same case for 2001 and 2002. 2003 is iffy but if it came out 2004-onward then it's totally real 00's. I heard Good Charlotte's Anthem on my Classic Rock radio station two weeks ago. The early 00's are now classic. ;)

Wow! You really are toned down today! :\'( :-\\

It came out in 2000 so it's faux-90's and what-if 00's which is the same case for 2001 and 2002. 2003 is iffy but if it came out 2004-onward then it's totally real 00's. I heard Good Charlotte's Anthem on my Classic Rock radio station two weeks ago. The early 00's are now classic. ;)


The Anthem?! I know people who are only a few years older who would be furious if they heard that song on the radio again haha. I always got "kids these days..." comments when I listened to that song ;D

The Anthem?! I know people who are only a few years older who would be furious if they heard that song on the radio again haha. I always got "kids these days..." comments when I listened to that song ;D


Yeah, it came outta nowhere, too. They were playing the usual Pink Floyd and Guns and Roses and all of a sudden the Anthem comes on. I hope they start playing more 2000-2003 classics! I was pretty happy to hear it too because Young and Hopeless is one of my top Pop Punk records. I was 20 when that came out and I didn't think "kids these days" at all. I got into Pop Punk in 1994 and we were still in that post-Dookie/Smash wave during the days of the Anthem though by time that song came out in 2003, it started dying off in favor of... Fall Out boy... Good Charlotte on their first two albums sounded exactly like Buffalo to Before Everything and After era MxPx and I already liked the first album so of course the second one is right up my alley.

Yeah, it came outta nowhere, too. They were playing the usual Pink Floyd and Guns and Roses and all of a sudden the Anthem comes on. I hope they start playing more 2000-2003 classics! I was pretty happy to hear it too because Young and Hopeless is one of my top Pop Punk records. I was 20 when that came out and I didn't think "kids these days" at all. I got into Pop Punk in 1994 and we were still in that post-Dookie/Smash wave during the days of the Anthem though by time that song came out in 2003, it started dying off in favor of... Fall Out boy... Good Charlotte on their first two albums sounded exactly like Buffalo to Before Everything and After era MxPx and I already liked the first album so of course the second one is right up my alley.


Speaking of Pop Punk, have you heard of the band, Lucky Boys Confusion? My older sister (and me by extension, but I was only like 8/9) used to listen to them in the early 00s. Unfortunately, they never got that much exposure.

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Speaking of Pop Punk, have you heard of the band, Lucky Boys Confusion? My older sister (and me by extension, but I was only like 8/9) used to listen to them in the early 00s. Unfortunately, they never got that much exposure.

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Haha, holy sh!t! I haven't heard this in forever! Hell yeah, I know 'em! I got their Growing Out, Throwing The Game and Commitment CD's that I bought when they came out. They definitely weren't as successful as they should of been.