Even though the Early 2000s will be my favorite era of all time, I won't deny that I feel we're out of topics. I feel I said everything that needed to be said. Is it just me or?

This thread is for to discuss any possible ideas we develop for this section as the posts expand.

If the title sucks, recommend me some ideas and I'll change the title from there.

I think everyone's said what they've needed to say. It always goes around in perpetual circles until someone decides they get bored or doesn't wanna debate anymore.

I think everyone's said what they've needed to say. It always goes around in perpetual circles until someone decides they get bored or doesn't wanna debate anymore.


If this thread is offensive, let me know and I'll request a lock. I do suck at debates. I really use this site just to share memories.

If this thread is offensive, let me know and I'll request a lock. I do suck at debates. I really use this site just to share memories.


No worries, I'm not offended. I just think it's getting pretty stale debating the same things over and over again and not acknowledging that what's being debated isn't factual. I also prefer being nostalgic and sharing memories of the good old days.

I think everyone's said what they've needed to say. It always goes around in perpetual circles until someone decides they get bored or doesn't wanna debate anymore.


So you've accepted that first half of 2004 is early 2000s.

So you've accepted that first half of 2004 is early 2000s.


No! >:(

2004 is to the early 00's what Hawthorne Heights or Aiden are to Emo or what Kenny G is to Jazz. I've said this a million times but you do not seem to absorb the facts.

;D

On topic, I don't think we've exhausted it. I have a few topic ideas but I don't want to spam it all in one day. Anyway, like the other thread about decadeology, I find these meta threads extremely awkward. :(

The music must change
For we're chewing a bone
We soared like the sparrow hawk flied
Then we dropped like a stone

Like the tide and the waves
Growing slowly enranged
Crushing mountains as old as the earth
So the music must change

;D

~~~Hey there,
I know it's hard to feel like I don't care at all.
Where you are and how you feel.
With these lights off as these wheels
keep rolling on and on. (and on and on and on...)
Slow things down or speed them up.
Not enough or way too much. (and on and on and on...)
How are you when I'm gone?

And I can't make it on my own.
(And I can't make it on my own.)
Because my heart is in Ohio.
So cut my wrists and black my eyes.
(Cut my wrists and black my eyes)
So I can fall asleep tonight, or die.
Because you kill me.
You know you do, you kill me well.
You like it too, and I can tell.
You never stop until my final breath is gone~~~ </3 omg

~~~~(I set) I set (my friends) my friends on fire (fire)
well I looked at your grave I do not feel alive
(I set) I set (my friends) my friends on fire (fire)
well I looked at your eyes I do not feel alive.
I set (I set) my friends (my friends) on fire,
now I will give up
(I set) I set (my friends) my friends (fire) on fire,
now I will give my life.

If I tell you now I will not feel alive,
If I kill you now I will not feel pride,
If I kill you now I have set those fields on fire,
what's this? One More Time.
Burn-Lies-Lies-one more time,
Burn-Lies-Lies-set, one more time~~~ </3 omg 2 emo

I tried to be perfect it just wasn't worth it
Nothing could ever be so wrong
It's hard to believe me it never gets easy
I meant all the things I said

If you believe it's in my soul
I'd say all the words that I know
Just to see if it would show
That I'm trying to let you know
That I'm better off on my own

I tried to be perfect it just wasn't worth it
Nothing could ever be so wrong
It's hard to be believe me it never gets easy
I meant all the things I said

If you believe it's in my soul
I'd say all the words that I know
Just to see if it would show
That I'm trying to let you know
That I'm better off on my own


Man, that song sucks...

~~~Two roads... split off from here,
and my life goes running in opposite directions.
Exaggerating the barrier between who I am, and who I want to be.

I wanted to be that breath of fresh air,
When everything smelled so insincere.
But this taste still lingers in my mouth,
Deceit has ways of sticking around.
And I'm ready to disappear,
Vacation seems far, seems far from here.

Note to self: I miss you terribly.
This is what we call a tragedy.
Come back to me, come back to me, to me.
Note to self: I miss you terribly.
This is what we call a tragedy.
Come back to me, back to me, to me~~~ omg diz song is so sad </3 I am emo now with my hair over my eyes nd my eyeliner

Aren't all these supposed to be bad?

Why I couldn't tell you
Why she felt that way, she felt it everyday
And I couldn't help her
I just watched her make the same mistakes again
What's wrong what's wrong now
Too many too many problems
Don't know where she belongs, where she belongs

She wants to go home
But nobody's home
It's where she lies, broken inside
With no place to go, no place to go
To dry her eyes, broken inside

Not mine, mine was supposed to be a good song (though an obscure one).

Aren't all these supposed to be bad?

Why I couldn't tell you
Why she felt that way, she felt it everyday
And I couldn't help her
I just watched her make the same mistakes again
What's wrong what's wrong now
Too many too many problems
Don't know where she belongs, where she belongs

She wants to go home
But nobody's home
It's where she lies, broken inside
With no place to go, no place to go
To dry her eyes, broken inside


Yes. They all suck.


~~~Oh,
Well imagine,
As I'm pacing the pews in a church corridor,
And I can't help but to hear,
No, I can't help but to hear an exchanging of words:
"What a beautiful wedding! What a beautiful wedding!" says a bridesmaid to a waiter,
"And, yes, but what a shame, what a shame the poor groom's bride is a whore."

I chime in with a
"Haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things
With a sense of poise and rationality.
I chime in,
"Haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn door?!"
No, it's much better to face these kinds of things
With a sense of...~~~ I feel so bad 4 th groom </3 omg i gotta post this on my myspace :\'(


Not mine, mine was supposed to be a good song (though an obscure one).


Yes, it's by the Who, isn't it? The Who are good; the real 2000's are not.

Yes, it's by the Who, isn't it? The Who are good; the real 2000's are not.

Yes, most everything The Who did that's not in the 80s is good. ;D

Yes, most everything The Who did that's not in the 80s is good. ;D


That is true. It's like how the music The Used, Taking Back Sunday, My Chemical Romance, blink-182, Sum 41, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, Fall Out Boy made that's not after 2002 (up until and including 2002) is good. ;)

But that Kenny G, none of his music is good. 8-P

I'm two quarters and a heart down
And I don't want to forget how your voice sounds
These words are all I have so I'll write them
So you'll need them just to get by

Dance, dance
We're falling apart to half time
Dance, dance
These are the lives you'd love to lead
This, this is the way they'd love
If they knew how misery loved me

I'm two quarters and a heart down
And I don't want to forget how your voice sounds
These words are all I have so I'll write them
So you'll need them just to get by

Dance, dance
We're falling apart to half time
Dance, dance
These are the lives you'd love to lead
This, this is the way they'd love
If they knew how misery loved me


Man, when he sings that song he sounds like such a 2005 Myspace sissy...

~~~Top down in the summer sun
The day we met was like a hit-and-run
And I still taste it on my tongue (taste it on my tongue)
The sky was burning up like fireworks
You made me want you oh so bad it hurt
But girl in case you haven't heard

I used to be love drunk, but now I'm hung over
I'll love you forever, forever is over
We used to kiss all night, now it's just a bar fight
So don't call me crying
Say hello to goodbye
Cause just one sip would make me sick
I used to be love drunk, but now I'm hung over
I'll love you forever, but now it's over

Hot sweat and blurry eyes
We're spinning round a rollercoaster ride
The world stuck in black and white
You drove me crazy every time we touched
Now I'm so broken that I can't get up
Oh girl you make me such a lush~~~ omg hes broken nd cant get up its like an emo steve urkel </3

That's a nice song.


So a day when you've lost yourself completely
Could be a night when your life ends
Such a heart that will lead you to deceiving
All the pain held in your hands are shaking cold
Your hands are mine to hold
Speak to me

When all you got to keep is strong
Move along move along like I know you do
And even when your hope is gone
Move along move along just to make it through
Move along

If this thread is offensive, let me know and I'll request a lock. I do suck at debates. I really use this site just to share memories.


Don't we all (at least I do from time to time)?  8)

I was never one who created a topic of discussion on this site, but I can understand where you're coming from. We discussed music, fashion, celebrities/bands, games, sitcoms, toys, cartoons, commercials, movies, and everything else inbetween. Although I don't think we'd ever run out of topics. If I remember correctly when this forum started it was mainly for the 1980s. The amount of topics to discuss for each decade roughly the same. So if the 2000s is running out of topics then how can the 1980s section still have topics especially if that section was around longer than this section? There are more things to discuss for the 2000s that we probably haven't gone across yet.

For example a few things that I haven't seen is a topic on social media. I am curious on everyone's experience when we saw the rise of social media like Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter. What were you views on the whole thing and when did you all really get into social media.

For music I wanted to discuss the best genres of the 2000s. For example to me Pop music was the best in the 1980s due to the sound of it, but in the 2000s didn't care for Pop music due to the change in styles. But I loved Electro Dance Music and I'd give examples of songs of that genre that made me really love the genre through the decade.

Another topic is the movies of the 2000s that can help define kid culture, teen culture, and adult culture in terms of movies. For example Spy Kids can be seen as an early 2000s movie that can help describe kid culture in the early 2000s.

I'm curious on everyone's views on youtube during its early years. I know how people feel about youtube of the mid-late '00s when compared to mid '10s, but what did you all think about when it during your first moments with it? What certain channel uploaders that you come to love at the time? What were your thoughts on the then-cool upgrades like the feature to upload in HD and having videos over the 10 minute length limit?

I'm not sure if these ideas have already been discussed (whether as part of the topic or as the main topic itself). So if these have already been discussed then my bad.


I think everyone's said what they've needed to say. It always goes around in perpetual circles until someone decides they get bored or doesn't wanna debate anymore.


Sounds like a lot of internet discussions. Only problem with the debates is that they never reach an agreement. Meaning you'll just have people talking about and forth about something and just wasting their time due to no actual progress in agreement being made. But yeah I assume a lot of people have discussed everything that they'd want to discuss.

That's a nice song.


So a day when you've lost yourself completely
Could be a night when your life ends
Such a heart that will lead you to deceiving
All the pain held in your hands are shaking cold
Your hands are mine to hold
Speak to me

When all you got to keep is strong
Move along move along like I know you do
And even when your hope is gone
Move along move along just to make it through
Move along


Awful song!! Move Along isn't terrible.

~~~~I've got the gift of one liners
And you've got the curse of curves
And with this gift I compose words
And the question that comes forward
Are you perspiring from the irony
Or are you sweating to these lyrics
And this just in
You're a dead fit
But my wit won't allow it
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes

I want someone provocative and talkative
But it's so hard when you're shallow as a shower
And from what I've heard with skin you'll win

Her bone structure screams
"Touch her! Touch her!"
And she's got the curse of curves
So with the combination of my gift with one liners
And my way
My way with words
It seems I'm too hip to keep tight lipped
And you're on the gossip team
You're making something out of nothing
And jealousy's the cousin, the cousin of greed
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes~~~ omg i can relate to dis song as it alignz with my xperence with womin


Don't we all (at least I do from time to time)?  8)

I was never one who created a topic of discussion on this site, but I can understand where you're coming from. We discussed music, fashion, celebrities/bands, games, sitcoms, toys, cartoons, commercials, movies, and everything else inbetween. Although I don't think we'd ever run out of topics. If I remember correctly when this forum started it was mainly for the 1980s. The amount of topics to discuss for each decade roughly the same. So if the 2000s is running out of topics then how can the 1980s section still have topics especially if that section was around longer than this section? There are more things to discuss for the 2000s that we probably haven't gone across yet.

For example a few things that I haven't seen is a topic on social media. I am curious on everyone's experience when we saw the rise of social media like Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter. What were you views on the whole thing and when did you all really get into social media.

For music I wanted to discuss the best genres of the 2000s. For example to me Pop music was the best in the 1980s due to the sound of it, but in the 2000s didn't care for Pop music due to the change in styles. But I loved Electro Dance Music and I'd give examples of songs of that genre that made me really love the genre through the decade.

Another topic is the movies of the 2000s that can help define kid culture, teen culture, and adult culture in terms of movies. For example Spy Kids can be seen as an early 2000s movie that can help describe kid culture in the early 2000s.

I'm curious on everyone's views on youtube during its early years. I know how people feel about youtube of the mid-late '00s when compared to mid '10s, but what did you all think about when it during your first moments with it? What certain channel uploaders that you come to love at the time? What were your thoughts on the then-cool upgrades like the feature to upload in HD and having videos over the 10 minute length limit?

I'm not sure if these ideas have already been discussed (whether as part of the topic or as the main topic itself). So if these have already been discussed then my bad.


I hated Myspace when it came out and I continue this hate with Facebook/Twitter. I don't know anything about those other sites but I'd probably hate them, too.

Jordan, I've got a question that I don't think anyone else has asked. Did you treasure the Y2K era when it was going on, or did you take it for granted? Did you think to yourself "Man, 2000-2003 were four kick-ass years! Hopefully 2004 will be just as good"?

Jordan, I've got a question that I don't think anyone else has asked. Did you treasure the Y2K era when it was going on, or did you take it for granted? Did you think to yourself "Man, 2000-2003 were four kick-ass years! Hopefully 2004 will be just as good"?


That's a pretty good question. I didn't think exactly like that but similar. I thought more like "Man, the music/movies/video games/whatever else coming out are so rad." I was very enthusiastic for new releases of things back then. When 2003 was over, I didn't think it was a transition (I just thought it was kinda weird and different. I do now in hindsight; starting around 2005) but I thought it was a low point since 2000-2002 was a consistent stream of good sh!t. I still had high hopes for 2004. I don't think I really started to dislike things/become cynical until June 2004 when the faux-Emo of the real 00's solidified, followed by American Idiot's release in August (the single, which was a huge, huge disappointment. The album itself was even worse) and finally Warped Tour 2005.

I think everyone's said what they've needed to say. It always goes around in perpetual circles until someone decides they get bored or doesn't wanna debate anymore.


You can only have so many topics on one subject.

Awful song!! Move Along isn't terrible.

~~~~I've got the gift of one liners
And you've got the curse of curves
And with this gift I compose words
And the question that comes forward
Are you perspiring from the irony
Or are you sweating to these lyrics
And this just in
You're a dead fit
But my wit won't allow it
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes

I want someone provocative and talkative
But it's so hard when you're shallow as a shower
And from what I've heard with skin you'll win

Her bone structure screams
"Touch her! Touch her!"
And she's got the curse of curves
So with the combination of my gift with one liners
And my way
My way with words
It seems I'm too hip to keep tight lipped
And you're on the gossip team
You're making something out of nothing
And jealousy's the cousin, the cousin of greed
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes
The inside lingo had me at hello
And we go where the money goes~~~ omg i can relate to dis song as it alignz with my xperence with womin

I hated Myspace when it came out and I continue this hate with Facebook/Twitter. I don't know anything about those other sites but I'd probably hate them, too.


Wow that one is worse lol.

I'm always assuming the worst,
But you're going on nonetheless
And there's nothing to cushion your heart led fall.
Letters from further away
Keep pulling me close to home.
And there's something to cushion my callous sighs.
And I know that you hope for
Longer good-byes
Embracing for forever
And falling in your eyes.
(In your eyes, your eyes)

Pouring over photographs.
I'm living in your letters.
Breathe deeply from this envelope
It smells like you and I can't be without that scent.
It's filling me with all you mean to me.

I still feel like people are still talking about the 2000s. Especially the regulars here.

I think it will still go on. I think some topics may get rehashed a bit, but some people may post after a long while since they first posted due to opinions changing over time. As for why there isn't too many posts about Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, etc. is that most of these sites are still around and still feel kinda dated but not quite nostalgic yet.

I think it will still go on. I think some topics may get rehashed a bit, but some people may post after a long while since they first posted due to opinions changing over time. As for why there isn't too many posts about Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, etc. is that most of these sites are still around and still feel kinda dated but not quite nostalgic yet.


When it comes to social media I was just curious on everyone's first impression when they first heard about things like Facebook, Myspace, and Twitter. What did you all think and has your views on the social media back then differ from your views today?

I think I first heard of MySpace sometime in late 2005. There was a deluge of other social media websites back then like Bebo, Hi5, Tagged, Orkut and others, so I didn't think anything special of Myspace and never made an account. I contnued to use MSN Messenger through 2010 as did most kids in Canada at the time.

I made my Twitter account in January 2009 to follow my favourite bloggers. I got a Facebook a few weeks later after a lot of my friends kept asking me if I have one. I love Twitter and still use it. I used to use Facebook a lot 2009-2012ish but nowadays I pretty much only use it for Messenger.

I also got an Instagram the last summer and posted a few pics once every few weeks. But then on a faithful day I got followed by a cousin and a friend. My cousin posts a billion photos of Justin Bieber, Shawn Mendes and Selena Gomez EVERYDAY and tags me in all of them. My friend takes 20 selfies a day minimum, and in those selfies he has the exact same clothes, exact same expression, exact same pose, just different backgrounds. 20-50 a day. Overtime I got more friends following me who pretty much do the same thing, though with less pictures maybe 1 or 2 a day. Instagram doesn't have a mute button or anything,  so I pretty much stopped using it. It's a rather dull social media platform all things considered.

That's my history with social media sites.

For music I wanted to discuss the best genres of the 2000s. For example to me Pop music was the best in the 1980s due to the sound of it, but in the 2000s didn't care for Pop music due to the change in styles. But I loved Electro Dance Music and I'd give examples of songs of that genre that made me really love the genre through the decade.


If you love the sound of 80s Pop (I do, too) then I think you'll love this song:

vYAM17lLtKk




Sounds like a lot of internet discussions. Only problem with the debates is that they never reach an agreement. Meaning you'll just have people talking about and forth about something and just wasting their time due to no actual progress in agreement being made. But yeah I assume a lot of people have discussed everything that they'd want to discuss.


I agree. Nobody ever comes to a point where they say "Ok, let's agree to disagree. I see your point and I hope you can see mine." It goes around in circles over and over again.


When it comes to social media I was just curious on everyone's first impression when they first heard about things like Facebook, Myspace, and Twitter. What did you all think and has your views on the social media back then differ from your views today?


First experience with social media was with SixDigrees. Never used it but I knew some dude who did. The profiles were hilarious and god-awful.

Next experience was with LiveJournal and Makeoutclub. I remember these sites being pretty big with Goth, Emo (per-historic Emo) and Sk8r kids. They were horrible and I cringe looking at the archives of these pages. Hilarious and god-awful.

Then there were a billion MakeOutClub clones like SceneFashion (scene as in scenester. This was a term in the 90s, too), OnlyUndiesClub (the slutty version of MakeOutClub where you'd look for goth/emo/sk8r dudes/chicks to hook up with), LipstickClub (I think that's what it was called) among others. Those were the poor man's MakeOutClub that only 6 people went on. They sucked and I don't like thinking back to them. I hate these almost as much as MySpace. Almost.

Friendster was kinda popular but it wasn't too big because Social Networks weren't a huge phenomenon yet. I hate it the least because the people who I knew on it seemed relatively normal. Still super lame.

First heard of Myspace in late 2004 when a lot of bands started using it to promote themselves. After that, I noticed a lot of people using it for personal reasons. Everyone knows why I hate this site so I won't repeat myself anymore.

Heard of Facebook on the news in 2007 and Twitter in 2008 (or 2009??) when they started getting big. I think they suck just as bad as MySpace but I've never used them.

I don't know about any of these 'gram' or 'app' sites so I can't speak about those.

That's my history. If you got anymore questions about the late 90's/early 00's era of Social Media, feel free to ask.


Wow that one is worse lol.

I'm always assuming the worst,
But you're going on nonetheless
And there's nothing to cushion your heart led fall.
Letters from further away
Keep pulling me close to home.
And there's something to cushion my callous sighs.
And I know that you hope for
Longer good-byes
Embracing for forever
And falling in your eyes.
(In your eyes, your eyes)

Pouring over photographs.
I'm living in your letters.
Breathe deeply from this envelope
It smells like you and I can't be without that scent.
It's filling me with all you mean to me.


Dude, c'mon. Dashboard is good, real Emo. Yes, he is ovaries overload (I don't think you're old enough to understand this reference) but he is true Emo. His lyrics, his singing, his guitar, it's all what Emo is about. His sideburns, his Elvis haircut. The man is what happens if Emo is personified. That album is also from 2000, I can only say good things about 2000.

Your lipstick, his collar.. don't bother Angel
I know exactly what goes on

When everything you'll get is
everything that you've wanted, princess
(well which would you prefer)
My finger on the trigger, or
(me face down, down across your floor)
Me face down, down across your floor
(me face down, down across your floor)
Well just so long as this thing's loaded

And will you tell all your friends
you've got your gun to my head
This all was only wishful thinkin,
this all was only wishful thinkin
And will you tell all your friends
you've got your gun to my head
This all was only wishful thinkin,
this all was only wishful thinkin
let's go...

This is also real Emo. Taking Back Sunday's first album is amazing (and their only good one) and often regarded by Emo fans as one of the last classics before Emo died in 2003. ;)

I can talk a lot about my childhood shows, flip-phones, MySpace, other early social media, slow internet, Windows 2000, XP, Vista, and 7, desktops/netbooks, IPods, Eminem, Britney Spears, Black Eyed Peas, MSN, Livestrong bracelets, but nobody seems nostalgic about those things yet. At least not to the point where there are discussions dedicated to them specifically like in the 80s and 90s forums.

I can talk a lot about my childhood shows, flip-phones, MySpace, other early social media, slow internet, Windows 2000, XP, Vista, and 7, desktops/netbooks, IPods, Eminem, Britney Spears, Black Eyed Peas, MSN, Livestrong bracelets, but nobody seems nostalgic about those things yet. At least not to the point where there are discussions dedicated to them specifically like in the 80s and 90s forums.


From what I've noticed it takes at least 15 years after a certain period for nostalgia from that time to start kicking in, and it usually takes 20 years after the time has past for it to become mainstream. I think it's good that a lot of 2000's nostalgia hasn't started yet or gotten into the mainstream, because from what I was told long time ago 90's nostalgia on the internet started way too early and it ended up being a disaster, as a result you hear a bunch of 90's kid debates, who's a kid of the 90's or not, all of these posts and tags around the internet about the 90's with a bunch debates whether you should remember it for the kid culture or the mainstream culture, which age group should claim the 90's decade as theirs, worse, you see a lot of early 2000's (2000-2003) cultural stuff getting lumped with the core 90's, which is sad.

I think it's best to wait another 5 years until 2000's nostalgia finally starts creeping in the right way, and it'll be worth it. In response to your post, I think nostalgia over our childhood shows, flip-phones, My-Space, and XP will be coming up by the end of this decade or very early next. Nostalgia over Britney Spears and the old Eminem are already around since those were late 90's to early 2000's, maybe not mainstream yet but definitely on the internet. Nostalgia over Vista or 7 is way too recent though, in fact, we are still in the Windows 7 & up era right now. I currently have Windows 10 and it doesn't feel much different than 7-9 which I started with before upgrading. This year marks 20 years from the last true core 90's year so 90's nostalgia deserves to be mainstream right now.

I currently have Windows 10 and it doesn't feel much different than 7-9 which I started with before upgrading. This year marks 20 years from the last true core 90's year so 90's nostalgia deserves to be mainstream right now.

To me, Windows 10 feels very fairly different from Windows 7 ( but not that different from 8 ). The main reaaon is the UI. 10 has that modern flat design that got popular in the early 2010's. Windows 7 looks dated, but in a good way. I much prefer the look of Windows 7 than the boring flat design we have now. Also Windows 7 feels old to me because I was still very young when I got it. I was around 15 years old and I installed it on my old desktop. People still use it but I do think it's getting dated as more and more people move to Windows 10, even though 7 came out in 2009. Windows 7 is still my favourite OS though. It's still a great OS, I think it's the next XP in terms of an older OS that people still appreciate.

To me, Windows 10 feels very fairly different from Windows 7 ( but not that different from 8 ). The main reaaon is the UI. 10 has that modern flat design that got popular in the early 2010's. Windows 7 looks dated, but in a good way. I much prefer the look of Windows 7 than the boring flat design we have now. Also Windows 7 feels old to me because I was still very young when I got it. I was around 15 years old and I installed it on my old desktop. People still use it but I do think it's getting dated as more and more people move to Windows 10, even though 7 came out in 2009. Windows 7 is still my favourite OS though. It's still a great OS, I think it's the next XP in terms of an older OS that people still appreciate.


Wow  :o I never thought somebody would call Windows 7 old! That feels completely recent to me, it still feels like the same era to me but to each own opinions. I just got Windows 7 for my Toshiba computer in Summer 2014 before I started college, and I have the same computer now but I've upgraded to Windows 10 that's the difference. Windows XP would be the one that feels dated to me while Windows 98 would be the one that feels old to me. I guess this also explains why culturally 2009 feels more related to 2016 than 2002. 2009 Windows 7 came out, and in 2016 we have Windows 10, doesn't feel much different, but in 2002 Windows XP was still young and a lot of people still used Windows 98. In 2009 we were in the Wii era, in 2016 we are in the Wii U era, not much of a difference especially with the generation of Mario games and Mii's too, but in 2002 it was the Gamecube, different generation of Mario and Nintendo games, and there were no such thing as Mii's yet. 2009 was the first year Obama was president, 2016 is the last year Obama is still president, in 2002 it was George Bush. In 2009 Facebook became the popular social media site while Myspace had just declined, in 2016 it's multiple social media sites that are big now, we are in the Twitter era along with Instagram, Snapcat, Tumblr, etc. while Facebook is still relevant despite not being in its peak like it used too, but in 2002 there were no big name social media sites in existence yet. In 2009 Youtube was already around, and it was already HD, in 2016 we still have Youtube today, in 2002 there was no Youtube in existence. All of this explains why 2008-present day will always feel like yesterday to me in life until there's a major cultural shift that happens.

Actually, (early) 2017 is the last time Obama will be president.

Actually, (early) 2017 is the last time Obama will be president.


Thanks for being very specific and precise Zelek. We all know 2016 is the last full year Obama is president in general. The inauguration for our new president will be January 2017 so you might as well say that by 2017 our new president will be in office.

When it comes to social media I was just curious on everyone's first impression when they first heard about things like Facebook, Myspace, and Twitter. What did you all think and has your views on the social media back then differ from your views today?


social media back then in my views were just message boards and chat rooms.

Actually, (early) 2017 is the last time Obama will be president.


January 1-24 of 2017 would be the last days for Obama's presidency actually.

I still see Windows 7 being used today at my school library and at my local library as well. My labs also use Windows 7. I don't think it's old at all. In fact, to me, it's current.

I still see Windows 7 being used today at my school library and at my local library as well. My labs also use Windows 7. I don't think it's old at all. In fact, to me, it's current.


Same here. Exactly what I've said too. Since 2009 we've been in the Windows 7 & up era. Windows Vista was basically post-XP and pre-7 at the same time. In fact, I wouldn't even call Windows XP "old" yet. I think it's still dated since its retail availability and updates lasted for a very long time. Windows XP's support didn't even end until 2014. So there's no way Windows 7 can be called old or dated yet, not even close. The Windows 95, 98, & 2000 era can be called "old" now.

I can talk a lot about my childhood shows, flip-phones, MySpace, other early social media, slow internet, Windows 2000, XP, Vista, and 7, desktops/netbooks, IPods, Eminem, Britney Spears, Black Eyed Peas, MSN, Livestrong bracelets, but nobody seems nostalgic about those things yet. At least not to the point where there are discussions dedicated to them specifically like in the 80s and 90s forums.


I can agree that all of those things can be old now, but Vista and 7 are kinda recent. I think any operating system that's discontinued can be considered as old, but not operating systems that are still available to the public.

I still see Windows 7 being used today at my school library and at my local library as well. My labs also use Windows 7. I don't think it's old at all. In fact, to me, it's current.

Windows XP was still being used in my school in 2011, it doesn't mean XP wasn't old at the time. Businesses and school's never upgrade to a new OS right away because the process is difficult so they use old OS's.

Same here. Exactly what I've said too. Since 2009 we've been in the Windows 7 & up era. Windows Vista was basically post-XP and pre-7 at the same time. In fact, I wouldn't even call Windows XP "old" yet. I think it's still dated since its retail availability and updates lasted for a very long time. Windows XP's support didn't even end until 2014. So there's no way Windows 7 can be called old or dated yet, not even close. The Windows 95, 98, & 2000 era can be called "old" now.

The time when support ends for an operating system is not a appropriate measure of age. XP was around a very, very unusually long time. Usually support ends after around 8-10 years, not 13 years. Tech moves very fast. An operating system that is 5 years old in considered very old in the world of tech... Which is why Windows 7 is old as it is 7 years old. Tech is a very fast moving industry unlike other trends and technology that were released just a couple of years ago even 2 years can get old real quick.

Windows XP was still being used in my school in 2011, it doesn't mean XP wasn't old at the time. Businesses and school's never upgrade to a new OS right away because the process is difficult so they use old OS's.


I used XP until 2010, so I would not have called it old then either.  ;)

In a way, it feels like Vista is older than XP. Vista was gone by 2010, while XP still hung around for a while longer.

The time when support ends for an operating system is not a appropriate measure of age. XP was around a very, very unusually long time. Usually support ends after around 8-10 years, not 13 years. Tech moves very fast. An operating system that is 5 years old in considered very old in the world of tech... Which is why Windows 7 is old as it is 7 years old. Tech is a very fast moving industry unlike other trends and technology that were released just a couple of years ago even 2 years can get old real quick.


Just because Windows 7 is older than five years, that doesn't mean it's dated to most people. Hell, I'm using Windows 7 right now and I don't even call it dated. If it was at it's end in 2020, then I would call it old, but not now. The least dated operating system made by Microsoft was Windows Vista, since it's going to be discontinued next year. Now, I could agree with you that Windows XP is basically 14 and a half years old, and that's REALLY old to me. I'm not gonna lie, I used the OS around 2005-early 2009 (although I used Mac OS X in late 2007 & 2008) and I loved it. But it's not retro, like Windows 95 and 98. That sh*t went really old since the mid 2000s. Nobody even used the operating systems since 2005/2006.

Just because Windows 7 is older than five years, that doesn't mean it's dated to most people. Hell, I'm using Windows 7 right now and I don't even call it dated. If it was at it's end in 2020, then I would call it old, but not now. The least dated operating system made by Microsoft was Windows Vista, since it's going to be discontinued next year. Now, I could agree with you that Windows XP is basically 14 and a half years old, and that's REALLY old to me. I'm not gonna lie, I used the OS around 2005-early 2009 and I loved it. But it's not retro, like Windows 95 and 98. That sh*t went really old since the mid 2000s. Nobody even used the operating systems since 2005/2006.


Personally I would call Windows XP dated, but I could understand why it feels old to you. A lot of schools and businesses were still using XP throughout my freshman and sophomore years of high school when Windows 7 was still pretty new. By the time my junior year came most schools and businesses replaced it with Windows 7. I remember the very first time I laid my eyes on a Windows XP computer around the end of 2001 to very early 2002 when I was still 5 1/2 or almost 6. My dad was setting it up. I was like "WOW a BLACK computer soooo cool!" because I was only used to seeing white computers (Windows 98) up to that point in my early life. Windows 98 feels extremely old to me, since my family hasn't used it since 2001 while most of my other family members haven't used it since 2003.

Most businesses and schools nowadays use Windows 7, while a lot of people still buy laptops and desktops that start with 7 but they have to upgrade to 10 themselves. I also notice a lot of people using Google Chrome for their default web browser now. Most operating systems are default to Internet Explorer when first bought but even that has declined lately.

When it comes to Windows OS I see 95, 98, 2000, ME, and XP as pretty old (and even Vista to an extent).  Nowadays I mainly see people using 7, 8, and 10.

Windows 98 is the superior OS. I don't know why Microsoft felt the need to upgrade.

Just because Windows 7 is older than five years, that doesn't mean it's dated to most people. Hell, I'm using Windows 7 right now and I don't even call it dated. If it was at it's end in 2020, then I would call it old, but not now. The least dated operating system made by Microsoft was Windows Vista, since it's going to be discontinued next year. Now, I could agree with you that Windows XP is basically 14 and a half years old, and that's REALLY old to me. I'm not gonna lie, I used the OS around 2005-early 2009 (although I used Mac OS X in late 2007 & 2008) and I loved it. But it's not retro, like Windows 95 and 98. That sh*t went really old since the mid 2000s. Nobody even used the operating systems since 2005/2006.

Again, like I said. Technology moves fast. In the world of tech, XP is ancient. Just because it doesn't seem old to you, doesn't mean it isn't. I'm speaking strictly in terms of how age is measured in technology, which I do know a lot about. And trust me, XP is an ancient OS. Windows 7 is old now too. The discontinuation date or how many people are using it are not factors in determining the age of an OS. 15 years is like a lifetime in terms of technology and operating systems.

No worries, I'm not offended. I just think it's getting pretty stale debating the same things over and over again and not acknowledging that what's being debated isn't factual. I also prefer being nostalgic and sharing memories of the good old days.


I'm happy to see this section active at the end of the day, but the constant debates can ruin the era for me. It takes away the phenomenon, magic. Its like milking. I'll just avoid most debates at least.


;D

On topic, I don't think we've exhausted it. I have a few topic ideas but I don't want to spam it all in one day. Anyway, like the other thread about decadeology, I find these meta threads extremely awkward. :(


I had a topic discussion I wanted to write about vibes, but it became complicated.


Don't we all (at least I do from time to time)?  8)

I was never one who created a topic of discussion on this site, but I can understand where you're coming from. We discussed music, fashion, celebrities/bands, games, sitcoms, toys, cartoons, commercials, movies, and everything else inbetween. Although I don't think we'd ever run out of topics. If I remember correctly when this forum started it was mainly for the 1980s. The amount of topics to discuss for each decade roughly the same. So if the 2000s is running out of topics then how can the 1980s section still have topics especially if that section was around longer than this section? There are more things to discuss for the 2000s that we probably haven't gone across yet.

For example a few things that I haven't seen is a topic on social media. I am curious on everyone's experience when we saw the rise of social media like Myspace, Facebook, and Twitter. What were you views on the whole thing and when did you all really get into social media.

For music I wanted to discuss the best genres of the 2000s. For example to me Pop music was the best in the 1980s due to the sound of it, but in the 2000s didn't care for Pop music due to the change in styles. But I loved Electro Dance Music and I'd give examples of songs of that genre that made me really love the genre through the decade.

Another topic is the movies of the 2000s that can help define kid culture, teen culture, and adult culture in terms of movies. For example Spy Kids can be seen as an early 2000s movie that can help describe kid culture in the early 2000s.

I'm curious on everyone's views on youtube during its early years. I know how people feel about youtube of the mid-late '00s when compared to mid '10s, but what did you all think about when it during your first moments with it? What certain channel uploaders that you come to love at the time? What were your thoughts on the then-cool upgrades like the feature to upload in HD and having videos over the 10 minute length limit?

I'm not sure if these ideas have already been discussed (whether as part of the topic or as the main topic itself). So if these have already been discussed then my bad.

Great post. I'm counting on you, dude. Of course I'll try to contribute. Just right now, I need to focus on my legacy.

Windows 98 is the superior OS. I don't know why Microsoft felt the need to upgrade.


Don't worry, Jordan. In 2098 Microsoft will bring back Windows 98.  http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kxmzi_3MrUg/TRhgX9lu65I/AAAAAAAAAFk/Sf1Fb_bVab4/s1600/trollface.png


I'm happy to see this section active at the end of the day, but the constant debates can ruin the era for me. It takes away the phenomenon, magic. Its like milking. I'll just avoid most debates at least.

I had a topic discussion I wanted to write about vibes, but it became complicated.

Great post. I'm counting on you, dude. Of course I'll try to contribute. Just right now, I need to focus on my legacy.


Debates can ruin an era. Especially when there are debates that don't even come to an agreement on certain things. Although just simple discussion is always welcomed by me as through these discussions I have learned some things about certain eras. As for the topic discussion on vibes if you're ever up for making the thread then go ahead. Kind of interested in that. Anyways I'll leave you to focusing on your legacy. Right now I'm in the middle of re-watching all of the House of Mouse episodes and Justice League episodes (can't believe it's been 15 years since I first watched these shows :o).

Kind of reminds me of what happened to the 1980's forum.

Kind of reminds me of what happened to the 1980's forum.


What happened in the 1980's forum? Ran out of topics to discuss?

What happened in the 1980's forum? Ran out of topics to discuss?


Actually, it's been active again the past month or so. But for a while..... ::)

Actually, it's been active again the past month or so. But for a while..... ::)


Ah. I guess it became less active for a while. But glad to see it more active recently.

Ah. I guess it became less active for a while. But glad to see it more active recently.


I'm not sure people ran out of ideas as much as was burnt out by all the 1980's crazy.

I'm not sure people ran out of ideas as much as was burnt out by all the 1980's crazy.


I can imagine that happening. Everyone can get tired of all the nostalgia for a decade even the most nostalgic people. Usually when people come back they tend to get back to making/discussing topics. Guess after everyone took a break they started going back to the 1980's section and now we have more topics/discussions.

Again, like I said. Technology moves fast. In the world of tech, XP is ancient. Just because it doesn't seem old to you, doesn't mean it isn't. I'm speaking strictly in terms of how age is measured in technology, which I do know a lot about. And trust me, XP is an ancient OS. Windows 7 is old now too. The discontinuation date or how many people are using it are not factors in determining the age of an OS. 15 years is like a lifetime in terms of technology and operating systems.


It's not recent to me. In fact, I stated that the OS was 14 and a half years old. But I wouldn't say that it's ancient like Windows 95 or 98.

I'm happy to see this section active at the end of the day, but the constant debates can ruin the era for me. It takes away the phenomenon, magic. Its like milking. I'll just avoid most debates at least.


I get this. The debates usually lack nostalgia and are done like everyone's some decade doctor rocket scientist and it's worse when there's nothing new being said. It can make you sick of things.


Don't worry, Jordan. In 2098 Microsoft will bring back Windows 98.  http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kxmzi_3MrUg/TRhgX9lu65I/AAAAAAAAAFk/Sf1Fb_bVab4/s1600/trollface.png


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Debates can ruin an era. Especially when there are debates that don't even come to an agreement on certain things. Although just simple discussion is always welcomed by me as through these discussions I have learned some things about certain eras. As for the topic discussion on vibes if you're ever up for making the thread then go ahead. Kind of interested in that. Anyways I'll leave you to focusing on your legacy. Right now I'm in the middle of re-watching all of the House of Mouse episodes and Justice League episodes (can't believe it's been 15 years since I first watched these shows :o).


Simple discussions are fine when people don't take it too seriously and act like they're saying anything factual.

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You just gotta wait another 80+ years.

What's funny is I wonder how people will view the 2000s when we reach the late 2090s. Actually curious on if the OS that people use in 2098 will even be called "Windows". Heck for all we know Microsoft may have gone bankrupt and closed down mid-21st century.

Simple discussions are fine when people don't take it too seriously and act like they're saying anything factual.


Everything I say is all based on opinions/personal experience. So I assume people would disagree with me anyways due to them having different experiences. Only time I can say that anything that I've stated is a fact is if I have websites/data to prove it.

You just gotta wait another 80+ years.


The wait is worth it!


What's funny is I wonder how people will view the 2000s when we reach the late 2090s. Actually curious on if the OS that people use in 2098 will even be called "Windows". Heck for all we know Microsoft may have gone bankrupt and closed down mid-21st century.


That's a weird, though, huh? Imagine people looking at the 2000's like we looked back at the 1900's in the 90's.... Jesus! I just hope they separate the Xtreme! 2000-2002/2003 from the rest of the decade. Crazy to think of a world without Microsoft.


Everything I say is all based on opinions/personal experience. So I assume people would disagree with me anyways due to them having different experiences. Only time I can say that anything that I've stated is a fact is if I have websites/data to prove it.


This is the truth. What I say is also based on my opinions and the stuff I've seen throughout my life.

There will always be something now and then as new members will come (eventually people who have no real memories of that decade), but eventually it will just become a boring thread like the Before the 1960s and seemingly now the 1970s that becomes a companion of "years ago/year in music" threads, an occasional game/quiz or "favorite songs, TV shows, or movies" topic, but seen as inferior to other sources because over time, books, period films, and museums will become more important to the subject matter than this forum based on opinions and memories like the 1970s/1980s and before have become.

However, the 2000s is unique here since discussion on this board was ongoing from the decade's beginning until its end, making it a primary source for current trends and thoughts. Since '00s nostalgia has yet to really get big yet, this board still has lots of legs as the people eventually wax nostalgic for anything that was relevant to them.

Windows 98 is the superior OS. I don't know why Microsoft felt the need to upgrade.


They upgrade every couple of years.

Windows 98 is the superior OS. I don't know why Microsoft felt the need to upgrade.


lol. You liked Windows 98? That OS was filled with errors and viruses. This is what a Windows 98 experience looked like, just to refresh your memory.

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They upgrade every couple of years.


Lame. 98 for life.


lol. You liked Windows 98? That OS was filled with errors and viruses. This is what a Windows 98 experience looked like, just to refresh your memory.

Jgi1PaJ29LY


You have used 98 before, right? If you got the service pack upgrade in 1999, it worked smoothly like a charm. XP pre-SP1a was much, much worse.

The wait is worth it!
Just hope I'd be alive by that point. Although I'd assume that the life expentency of humans would be much longer in 2098 due to the higher level of medicine and treatments.


That's a weird, though, huh? Imagine people looking at the 2000's like we looked back at the 1900's in the 90's.... Jesus! I just hope they separate the Xtreme! 2000-2002/2003 from the rest of the decade. Crazy to think of a world without Microsoft.
That is if people can even remember the Xtreme cultural trend of the early '00s. And if we have a world without Microsoft I will certainly be in shock.

Just hope I'd be alive by that point. Although I'd assume that the life expentency of humans would be much longer in 2098 due to the higher level of medicine and treatments.

That is if people can even remember the Xtreme cultural trend of the early '00s. And if we have a world without Microsoft I will certainly be in shock.


Yeah, I'd assume so, too. Man, it's weird to think of what the world's gonna be like in 2098...

"Kids, the early 00's started 100 years ago"
- Me in 2098

It worries me to think of people pinning faux-Emo and Myspace in with the early 00's (unfortunately, people are already doing this now!). It's weird to think about. How will take over for Microsoft!? They're one of the top computer companies! I'm willing to bet most people's first PC was probably a Windows.

You have used 98 before, right? If you got the service pack upgrade in 1999, it worked smoothly like a charm. XP pre-SP1a was much, much worse.


Well okay then.

Well okay then.


The more ya' know. ;)

Yeah, I'd assume so, too. Man, it's weird to think of what the world's gonna be like in 2098...

"Kids, the early 00's started 100 years ago"
- Me in 2098

It worries me to think of people pinning faux-Emo and Myspace in with the early 00's (unfortunately, people are already doing this now!). It's weird to think about. How will take over for Microsoft!? They're one of the top computer companies! I'm willing to bet most people's first PC was probably a Windows.


Remember when Myspace was INSANELY popular back in the early '00s? Remember all the fun we had on Facebook in the early '00s? I wanna go back to 2005 as I miss the early 00's culture.

People sure are funny.

Anyways I assumed by the time we reach mid 21st century Windows would be replaced by a new series of OS.

Remember when Myspace was INSANELY popular back in the early '00s? Remember all the fun we had on Facebook in the early '00s? I wanna go back to 2005 as I miss the early 00's culture.

People sure are funny.

Anyways I assumed by the time we reach mid 21st century Windows would be replaced by a new series of OS.


I was browsing some forums a few months ago and this one guy was convinced that people were using MySpace in 2000 of all years. Of course, Fall Out Boy and Hawthorne Heights are sooo early 00's. Oh yeah, for sure... ::)

That's so weird to me. I've been using Windows since 1996! Jesus, it's been 20 years since I got my first PC.

Yo, mqg96.

Are you still making the African American culture of the 2000s thread?

Yo, mqg96.

Are you still making the African American culture of the 2000s thread?


I don't even think anybody's sure if he's making that.

I don't even think anybody's sure if he's making that.


I just don't want to come off as an idea stealer. I'll a nice bit of likely work on the thread my self once I know for sure.

I just don't want to come off as an idea stealer. I'll a nice bit of likely work on the thread my self once I know for sure.


He didn't make any updates on that for a while now, with the thread being a thing.

I plan to make an I Need Nostalgia Thread. Not general though. Just specifically for the 2000s. The topic can be mainly based around nostalgic personal life moments. Hopefully if the topic is successful, there can be versions for other decade discussions.

Also, I'm definitely planning to make the African American culture of the 2000s topic. I think I will most likely call it, The 2000s, Peak of African American Adolescent Entertainment.

I plan to make an I Need Nostalgia Thread. Not general though. Just specifically for the 2000s. The topic can be mainly based around nostalgic personal life moments. Hopefully if the topic is successful, there can be versions for other decade discussions.


Please make that thread. If so, I would be happy for you.

I really wish there were more nostalgia threads around the 2000s on here. I feel like I'm the only one nostalgic for that decade.  :(

The 00's was pretty interesting. Wasn't a fan of the music, but everything else was in tact, nicely.

I really wish there were more nostalgia threads around the 2000s on here. I feel like I'm the only one nostalgic for that decade.  :(


Haven't you seen my posts ever since I joined this site back in July of 2015? It's pretty obvious that I love the 2000s more than this decade.

Haven't you seen my posts ever since I joined this site back in July of 2015? It's pretty obvious that I love the 2000s more than this decade.

Yeah I know but we still need more of it.

I really wish there were more nostalgia threads around the 2000s on here. I feel like I'm the only one nostalgic for that decade.  :(


It's still pretty early, the 2000s weren't that long ago. I'd give it a few years, you'll start seeing more people being nostalgic for it.

It's still pretty early, the 2000s weren't that long ago. I'd give it a few years, you'll start seeing more people being nostalgic for it.

I know but it is for me because I was like 5 - 14 years old throughout that decade.

Please make that thread. If so, I would be happy for you.


Their coming, dude. I'm sick of non nostalgic topics as much as you.
I really wish there were more nostalgia threads around the 2000s on here. I feel like I'm the only one nostalgic for that decade.  :(


Dude, there's tones. They just sadly become buried because we've already posted what needed to be said. Nostalgic threads are becoming a casualty. Until we see new users at the ages we are, the topics will become repetitive.
It's still pretty early, the 2000s weren't that long ago. I'd give it a few years, you'll start seeing more people being nostalgic for it.


The Early 2000s are pretty old. I can agree what the rest to an extent. The Early 2000s are over 10 years ago.

Their coming, dude. I'm sick of non nostalgic topics as much as you.


Yeah. The nostalgic topics are one of the reasons why I joined this site.


The Early 2000s are pretty old. I can agree what the rest to an extent. The Early 2000s are over 10 years ago.


Same with the mid 2000s, as they're over 10 years old.

Yeah. The nostalgic topics are one of the reasons why I joined this site.

Same with the mid 2000s, as they're over 10 years old.



same here, I agree with you.

Yeah. The nostalgic topics are one of the reasons why I joined this site.

Same with the mid 2000s, as they're over 10 years old.

Nostalgia is great, just not when a topic is repeated to death and overanalyzed.