The 2005-2006 school year was one of the worst ever for music, even compared to 2014-2015, at least in the United States:


So glad that wasn't my senior year of high school. The 2013-2014 school year was a lot better for music, and I think the 2015-2016 school year for music has been an improvement over the last one too.

I don't understand why they would feel the need to delete the thread. It's not even decadeology, it's just a topic asking about people's memories of a particular time. Sure, you can make a thread like this for just about any school year, but you're still going to get very different responses for one year compared to any other.


I'm not sure they did. It could just be lost somewhere in inthe00s world.  :P

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These are pretty much my favorite pop cultural stuff that debuted during the 2005-2006 school year in a nutshell. Even though Prison Break I didn't get into until I found it on Netflix. I got into Rihanna, Chris Brown, and all the other mainstream artists in 2007. I discovered Youtube in 2007. I started watching Boondocks in 2007. Ben 10 was my favorite show from CN City and the last CN show I associate with my main childhood. I got a Nintendo DS with Mario Kart DS the summer after 4th grade ended, and I remember people talking about the XBOX 360 throughout 4th grade when it was brand new.

and Slowpoke, I was about to say the same thing, I don't know what the hell happened to the other thread, but I had mentioned in the previous one that this was the year the Georgia Aquarium opened up, and it was the world's largest Aquarium up until 2012 when it was surpassed by Marine Life Park in Sentosa Island, Singapore. I remember the very first time I went there like yesterday in summer 2006, and I've always been at least once a year or two ever since.

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The original Nintendo DS came out in November 2004 so that'd be the 2004-05 school year. The DS Lite would be the 2005-06 school year, since it came out in June 2006 when some schools in the country hadn't started their summer break yet. A lot of people on this thread are focusing on such much negativity about the 2005-06 school year instead of the positives, because they want to fit in the typical "everything after 2003 sucks" crowd. Which is one of the most common quotes I've heard by a lot of people who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's. Jordan isn't the only one who believes this.


Yeah. Its kind of sad how people can completely judge a era. 2005-2006 still had balance technology, lack of care for social media. Which is magical today.

The 2005-2006 school year was one of the worst ever for music, even compared to 2014-2015, at least in the United States:

I know eh! The radio was unlistenable. Then there was the ringtone rap (Laffy Taffy, Yung Joc etc. as you linked) that was unavoidable wherever you went.

Speaking of British music, this cheesey ass song almost redeems whole year, for trolling potential.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oofSnsGkops

I used to hate Crazy Frog so much back then, I thought it was the root cause of societal decay, but only once I grew older did I realize it was supposed to be a joke. Hopefully people hating on Gangnam Style and Harlem Shake right now will realize that too.  :(

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That Sugarbabes MV is very racy.  :o I love that Arctic Monkey song though. I couldn't watch the Robbie Williams one, it's not available in my country.

Speaking of British things, there were a few British comedies that also aired in Canada that I enjoyed that year.

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The Office and How I Met Your Mother also started airing that year, some of my favourite comedies.

The original Nintendo DS came out in November 2004 so that'd be the 2004-05 school year. The DS Lite would be the 2005-06 school year, since it came out in June 2006 when some schools in the country hadn't started their summer break yet. A lot of people on this thread are focusing on such much negativity about the 2005-06 school year instead of the positives, because they want to fit in the typical "everything after 2003 sucks" crowd. Which is one of the most common quotes I've heard by a lot of people who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's. Jordan isn't the only one who believes this.


Are you talking about me? Mid-2004 and afterwards legitimately sucked for me though.  :-X


Yeah. Its kind of sad how people can completely judge a era. 2005-2006 still had balance technology, lack of care for social media. Which is magical today.


Eh, I disagree. People were obsessed with social media, and it wasn't consolidated onto just one or two sites like it was in 2009-2011 (Facebook and Twitter). People had MySpace, Bebo, Tagged, Hi5, Orkut, Live Spaces etc. etc. people just wanted to be on every single site. I would not call that a balance. There were a lot of good things that happened 2005-06 school year, but the attitude of the era isn't something I crave.

Eh, I disagree. People were obsessed with social media, and it wasn't consolidated onto just one or two sites like it was in 2009-2011 (Facebook and Twitter). People had MySpace, Bebo, Tagged, Hi5, Orkut, Live Spaces etc. etc. people just wanted to be on every single site. I would not call that a balance. There were a lot of good things that happened 2005-06 school year, but the attitude of the era isn't something I crave for.


I don't know how it was in Canada by the mid 2000's, but this is not true here in the US. I repeat for the millionth time, the mid 2000's as a whole was the transition into the social media and digital age. People were not clued to their flip phones or Youtube/Myspace all day long, no where near how people are glued to their screens on Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat/Facebook/Youtube or high speed internet mobile iPhones or Samsungs like they are today. People getting overly sensitive over tweets and how Youtube has changed over the years, not to mention a lot of people watching shows on the internet or Netflix/Hulu now while cable has been declining unless it's live sports or news. The digital age and social media wasn't in FULL effect 100% until the late 2000's. The mid 2000's was the transition. The early 2000's was the last true time in society with the classic living room culture.

Are you talking about me? Mid-2004 and afterwards legitimately sucked for me though.  :-X


You're 3 years older than me, but culturally 4 years older than me from a kid/teen perspective, plus I could understand your pain being in middle school throughout the mid 2000's too, just like how I was in middle school throughout the late 2000's. However, keep in mind, as I've said many times before, it's common for folks all ages who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's to say all of the pop culture after 2003 sucks and/or everything came back to life once 2010 hit. It's more common than you think, I've been on the internet and forums for over 5 years now to realize this. When people who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's sees people blaming the year 2004 for all of their problems, they tend to agree with it and spread their opinions along. The 2003 cutoff rule for all the pop culture still being gold has been going on for a long time, I outta archive some posts from other sites.

I don't know how it was in Canada by the mid 2000's, but this is not true here in the US. I repeat for the millionth time, the mid 2000's as a whole was the transition into the social media and digital age. People were not clued to their flip phones or Youtube/Myspace all day long, no where near how people are glued to their screens on Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat/Facebook/Youtube or high speed internet mobile iPhones or Samsungs like they are today. People getting overly sensitive over tweets and how Youtube has changed over the years, not to mention a lot of people watching shows on the internet or Netflix/Hulu now while cable has been declining unless it's live sports or news. The digital age and social media wasn't in FULL effect 100% until the late 2000's. The mid 2000's was the transition. The early 2000's was the last true time in society with the classic living room culture.


People were glued to their flip phones, and people were glued to their computers. That's exactly how I remember it.  ??? Watching TV over the Internet wasn't a thing yet though. But I'm not going to remember 2005-06 as a simple time with no technology and we were all living in caves. Technology was sufficiently advanced at that point where it could cause addictions, and it did.

On the other hand, I've been hearing this "we're addicted to technology and we forgot how to talk to people!" fearmongering since the late 90s/early 2000s that I've learned to tune it out.

Are you talking about me? Mid-2004 and afterwards legitimately sucked for me though.  :-X


Am I the only one who disagrees with the "everything sucks after 2004" rule? Is it because I was depressed during the early 2010s, while you guys were depressed in the late 2000s? I still don't feel happy a lot even today because of this decade's pop culture, so is it normal for late 90s babies or something?

Am I the only one who disagrees with the "everything sucks after 2004" rule? Is it because I was depressed during the early 2010s, while you guys were depressed in the late 2000s?


You mean after 2003? They are specifically talking about how as soon as 2004 hit a nuclear missile just bombed all of the pop culture and vibes and turned it upside down.

You're 3 years older than me, but culturally 4 years older than me from a kid/teen perspective, plus I could understand your pain being in middle school throughout the mid 2000's too, just like how I was in middle school throughout the late 2000's. However, keep in mind, as I've said many times before, it's common for folks all ages who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's to say all of the pop culture after 2003 sucks and/or everything came back to life once 2010 hit. It's more common than you think, I've been on the internet and forums for over 5 years now to realize this. When people who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's sees people blaming the year 2004 for all of their problems, they tend to agree with it and spread their opinions along. The 2003 cutoff rule for all the pop culture still being gold has been going on for a long time, I outta archive some posts from other sites.


Archive my posts and you'll need some extra storage space.

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What you say is true. I have been asking people my age about their thoughts on the 90's and when things began to go downhill and nearly everyone says 2003 or 2004. Most people, in my experience, have opinions that are similar to what I say here.


Am I the only one who disagrees with the "everything sucks after 2004" rule? Is it because I was depressed during the early 2010s, while you guys were depressed in the late 2000s? I still don't feel happy a lot even today because of this decade's pop culture, so is it normal for late 90s babies or something?


"After 2003" is more common than "after 2004" since, to most people who grew up in the 90's, 2004 is the first "teh suk" year.


You mean after 2003? They are specifically talking about how as soon as 2004 hit a nuclear missile just bombed all of the pop culture and vibes and turned it upside down.


You beat me to it!

You mean after 2003? They are specifically talking about how as soon as 2004 hit a nuclear missile just bombed all of the pop culture and vibes and turned it upside down.


Well yeah, I meant that. But didn't you also say that everything came back to life in 2010?

People were glued to their flip phones, and people were glued to their computers. That's exactly how I remember it.  ??? Watching TV over the Internet wasn't a thing yet though. But I'm not going to remember 2005-06 as a simple time with no technology and we were all living in caves. Technology was sufficiently advanced at that point where it could cause addictions, and it did.

On the other hand, I've been hearing this "we're addicted to technology and we forgot how to talk to people!" fearmongering since the late 90s/early 2000s that I've learned to tune it out.


Back then was advance, but significantly less advanced compared to today. Picture comparing the limitations of a flip phone to a iPhone.
Am I the only one who disagrees with the "everything sucks after 2004" rule? Is it because I was depressed during the early 2010s, while you guys were depressed in the late 2000s? I still don't feel happy a lot even today because of this decade's pop culture, so is it normal for late 90s babies or something?


I would have had that same mindset if I didn't come to realize how good the mid 2000s actually were for my personal life. Especially compared to now.

People were glued to their flip phones, and people were glued to their computers. That's exactly how I remember it.  ??? Watching TV over the Internet wasn't a thing yet though. But I'm not going to remember 2005-06 as a simple time with no technology and we were all living in caves. Technology was sufficiently advanced at that point where it could cause addictions, and it did.

On the other hand, I've been hearing this "we're addicted to technology and we forgot how to talk to people!" fearmongering since the late 90s/early 2000s that I've learned to tune it out.


By that logic you could say the same thing about the early 2000's then, because Windows XP was released in 2001 and my family had it by the start of 2002 along with broadband, and throughout 2002 and 2003 I remember getting on kid channel sites and Planet Hot Wheels. I could have been addicted to 6th generation games throughout the early 2000's if I wanted to instead of playing outside, but it would have been my choice. Internet still wasn't a necessity yet in the mid 2000's dude, as well as the early 2000's. Again, the mid 2000's was a transitional period into social media becoming real popular. Myspace came in 2003, Facebook in 2004, Youtube in 2005, and Twitter in 2006. All of these 4 major social media sites, not the underrated ones that hardly anybody used, impacted our culture. Myspace got popular immediately in the mid 2000's, but Youtube didn't start peaking until the late 2000's as well as Facebook, and Twitter didn't peak until the early 2010's and eventually Instagram and many others later on. Even since the late 2000's up to present day, every single commercial ad you see on TV or on certain products at the store or major sites you go to in towns, you'll see a Facebook, Youtube, Myspace (formerly), etc. tab being advertised on the side of it. You did not see social media sites on commercial ad's in the mid 2000's as well as the early 2000's either.

Well yeah, I meant that. But didn't you also say that everything came back to life in 2010?


The glory of 2010 can't be denied, even by h8ers. 2 glorious 4 me is what the h8ers say.

The glory of 2010 can't be denied, even by h8ers. 2 glorious 4 me is what the h8ers say.


"2 glorious 4 me" is what people say when discussing 2000/2001/2002.

Well yeah, I meant that. But didn't you also say that everything came back to life in 2010?


I started high school in 2010 and I thought it was the best year for the mainstream pop culture since my adolescence began in the late 2000's leading up to that point, better than all of the late 2000's years. 2010, love it or hate it, was one of the greatest years for the pop culture. The mainstream music was great, the TV shows that debuted whether it was for kids or adults/families were epic, the fashion was excellent, social media was still balanced but not too sensitive yet with the old Facebook and Youtube, and the apps at the time were great as well. I also started going to my high school youth ministry in 2010 and it was the first year I ran cross country and made many good friends. 2010 wasn't the best year for my personal life of this decade but it brought in a lot of new experiences and it was fun looking back.

Back then was advance, but significantly less advanced compared to today. Picture comparing the limitations of a flip phone to a iPhone.


Oh, and this too. Even today, you can get on the internet on your video games consoles too and so much more downloadable content and stream movies/TV shows, you still couldn't do all of that on those platforms in the mid 2000's when it was still the 6th generation era.

I would have had that same mindset if I didn't come to realize how good the mid 2000s actually were for my personal life. Especially compared to now.


I'm feeling unamused with my personal life now, so I guess I could relate with that.

I started high school in 2010 and I thought it was the best year for the mainstream pop culture since my adolescence began in the late 2000's leading up to that point, better than all of the late 2000's years. 2010, love it or hate it, was one of the greatest years for the pop culture. The mainstream music was great, the TV shows that debuted whether it was for kids or adults/families were epic, the fashion was excellent, social media was still balanced but not too sensitive yet with the old Facebook and Youtube, and the apps at the time were great as well. I also started going to my high school youth ministry in 2010 and it was the first year I ran cross country and made many good friends. 2010 wasn't the best year for my personal life of this decade but it brought in a lot of new experiences and it was fun looking back.


Well yeah, it was the only year that I like from this decade. Probably because of how it still had 2000s vibes, but it mostly felt like the early 2010s to me.

"2 glorious 4 me" is what people say when discussing 2000/2001/2002.


It's

The Spirit of '09
The Glory of '10
The Magnificence of '11
The Beauty of '12
The Radiance of '13
The Triumph of '14
The Excellence of '15
The Sweetness of '16

It's

The Spirit of '09
The Glory of '10
The Magnificence of '11
The Beauty of '12
The Radiance of '13
The Triumph of '14
The Excellence of '15
The Sweetness of '16


No, no, no. You're doing it all wrong!

The Splendor of '00
The Opulence of '01
The Elegance of '02

You can't call 2016 "the Sweetness" because that song first existed in many forms from 1998-2002.

Here's some of my favorite movies or TV specials that came out during the 2005-06 school year.

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No, no, no. You're doing it all wrong!

The Splendor of '00
The Opulence of '01
The Elegance of '02

You can't call 2016 "the Sweetness" because that song first existed in many forms from 1998-2002.


The Sweetness of '16, like, Sweet 16. I was saving elegance for '17 you thief.  >:(

The Sweetness of '16, like, Sweet 16. I was saving elegance for '17 you thief.  >:(


Yeah, but the demo for Sweetness is 1998 and 1999 (one on the EP and one on Clairty), it was on 2001's Bleed American and the single for Sweetness came out in 2002. You can't use it for 2016.

2002 is much more elegant than 2017 is probably going to be (unless frosted tips make a come back). ;)

You're 3 years older than me, but culturally 4 years older than me from a kid/teen perspective, plus I could understand your pain being in middle school throughout the mid 2000's too, just like how I was in middle school throughout the late 2000's. However, keep in mind, as I've said many times before, it's common for folks all ages who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's to say all of the pop culture after 2003 sucks and/or everything came back to life once 2010 hit. It's more common than you think, I've been on the internet and forums for over 5 years now to realize this. When people who grew up in the 90's or early 2000's sees people blaming the year 2004 for all of their problems, they tend to agree with it and spread their opinions along. The 2003 cutoff rule for all the pop culture still being gold has been going on for a long time, I outta archive some posts from other sites.

What do you mean by culturally 4 years older?

Here's some of my favorite movies or TV specials that came out during the 2005-06 school year.







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A BIG disappointment! This school year in generally was weak for movies!

A BIG disappointment! This school year in generally was weak for movies!


I was just listing the good ones that I enjoyed IMO, but you're right, 2006 was the weakest year for movies of the 2000's, with 2000 being the 2nd weakest.

I was just listing the good ones that I enjoyed IMO, but you're right, 2006 was the weakest year for movies of the 2000's, with 2000 being the 2nd weakest.

Yeah!  At least 2000 gave me Cast Away, Dinosaur, X-MEN, Gladiator, Remember the Titans, Emperors New Groove. 2006..... had NOTHING until the fall; Departed, Blood Diamond, Casion Royale, Inside Man, Night of the Museum.

2006 had Borat, it wins instantly.  ;D

"Yo, you guys like rap? sheeetttt, I like rap, too. G-G-G-G-G UNIT!"

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Ugh. Every white boy on Disney Channel and Nickelodeon was getting that God-awful hairstyle. I hated it then and I still hate it today.  8-P

Ugh. Every white boy on Disney Channel and Nickelodeon was getting that God-awful hairstyle. I hated it then and I still hate it today.  8-P


Hey man, that was the Natural Hair Movement for Caucasian males. That's how my hair looks like when I get out the shower  ;D

All these great commercials from my late childhood.
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I know NewYorkEagle will disagree, but honestly, Nick "officially" died in early 2006, when Cyma Zarghami became president. Soon enough, they lost the variety they used to have, replacing it with endless Spongebob reruns, flash/CGI, and tweencoms. :P

I know NewYorkEagle will disagree, but honestly, Nick "officially" died in early 2006, when Cyma Zarghami became president. Soon enough, they lost the variety they used to have, replacing it with endless Spongebob reruns, flash/CGI, and tweencoms. :P


Eh. It's your opinion. Aside from the fact that Cyma Zarghami became president in 2006, her cancerous acts didn't affect me until the logo change.

I know NewYorkEagle will disagree, but honestly, Nick "officially" died in early 2006, when Cyma Zarghami became president. Soon enough, they lost the variety they used to have, replacing it with endless Spongebob reruns, flash/CGI, and tweencoms. :P


2007 had iCarly though!

I think the Drake & Josh movie came out sometime in 2005-06 school year, from what I remember.

All these great commercials from my late childhood.


2005 to early 2006 Toonami was still going on hard with great Saturday night lineups, Ben 10 premiered which I got hooked into fast along with some other good cartoons still being around, it was the last year I watched Kids WB, it was the last year I watched Toon Disney & Jetix, and Disney Channel still had new episodes of great cartoons and sitcoms despite Hannah Montana premiering later that school year.

I know NewYorkEagle will disagree, but honestly, Nick "officially" died in early 2006, when Cyma Zarghami became president. Soon enough, they lost the variety they used to have, replacing it with endless Spongebob reruns, flash/CGI, and tweencoms. :P

You're right! The Nicktoons were NEVER the same... And then the logo change was when they officially abandoned their identity!

2007 had iCarly though!

I think the Drake & Josh movie came out sometime in 2005-06 school year, from what I remember.


Yeah, but at least iCarly was okay, compared to Nickelodeon's current sitcoms.

Yeah, but at least iCarly was okay, compared to Nickelodeon's current sitcoms.


iCarly was the best.  ;D Even if I have a childhood bias for The Amanda Show, I can't deny that the humour in iCarly was way better and more mature.

2005 to early 2006 Toonami was still going on hard with great Saturday night lineups, Ben 10 premiered which I got hooked into fast along with some other good cartoons still being around, it was the last year I watched Kids WB, it was the last year I watched Toon Disney & Jetix, and Disney Channel still had new episodes of great cartoons and sitcoms despite Hannah Montana premiering later that school year.



Toonami started going downhill during this school year imo! and so did CN itself! ABC kids was dead to me, Jetix I obviously continued watching for the fox kids shows, Nick for their teen shows, and Disney Channel ironically ?I watched the most during the school year; even though they were beginning to change(exiting from the That's so Raven, Kim Possible, Proud Family era and into the Hannah Montana/HSM era), I started to move away from the kids networks and watch more mature programming(by myself).

I started driving in the autumn of 2005. Bad idea!  ;D

I was 16, and a Junior.

iCarly was the best.  ;D Even if I have a childhood bias for The Amanda Show, I can't deny that the humour in iCarly was way better and more mature.


I wasn't into iCarly regularly, but I give it a lot of credit for being the last good Nick sitcom and the last good kid's sitcom that was really good in general. Since iCarly ended I haven't heard of any decent sitcom on Nickelodeon or Disney Channel. The last good sitcom Disney Channel had was the Suite Life series (even though I only preferred seasons 1 & 2 in the hotel).

iCarly was the best.  ;D Even if I have a childhood bias for The Amanda Show, I can't deny that the humour in iCarly was way better and more mature.


Yeah. I could take iCarly any day from modern Nickelodeon's shows.

Yeah. I could take iCarly any day from modern Nickelodeon's shows.

Yeah I feel bad for my little cousin(my grandfather's nephew) on my Mom's side. I hope he chooses his programming wisely!

I wasn't into iCarly regularly, but I give it a lot of credit for being the last good Nick sitcom and the last good kid's sitcom that was really good in general. Since iCarly ended I haven't heard of any decent sitcom on Nickelodeon or Disney Channel. The last good sitcom Disney Channel had was the Suite Life series (even though I only preferred seasons 1 & 2 in the hotel).


I liked the episodes I watched of Good Luck Charlie, which aired 2010-2014.

I didn't like Suite Life *hides* Or rather, I didn't like my sisters' obsession with them haha.


I started driving in the autumn of 2005. Bad idea!  ;D

I was 16, and a Junior.


I should not have been on the road at 16 either. ;D

I'll say this about the 05-06 school year, it was when Early Gen Z kid influences were starting. With the XBOX 360 being released, Nintendo DS replacing the GBA's popularity, Naruto, Camp Lazlo, Hannah Montana, Ben 10, MY Gym Partner, Guitar Hero,etc.

Toonami started going downhill during this school year imo! and so did CN itself! ABC kids was dead to me, Jetix I obviously continued watching for the fox kids shows, Nick for their teen shows, and Disney Channel ironically ?I watched the most during the school year; even though they were beginning to change(exiting from the That's so Raven, Kim Possible, Proud Family era and into the Hannah Montana/HSM era), I started to move away from the kids networks and watch more mature programming(by myself).


I disagree, but we're entitled to our own opinions. The 2005-06 school year was the first Naruto was around. It brought back Dragon Ball Z but the uncut version of it. (a lot of ppl forget this but I remember) It was the last school year with Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited premiering new episodes regularly. Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo was hilarious af. iGPX aired at the time, and Yu-Gi-Oh was on there for a little bit. I thought the 2005-06 school year for Toonami was the last great one for me. 2006-07 is when it went downhill, because a lot of the shows started getting taken off the lineup, TOM 4 replaced TOM 3, and hours were reduced. TOM 3 is still my favorite TOM since I really enjoyed the 2003 and 2005 years for it. Around the second half of 5th grade is when I exited Cartoon Network and Disney Channel, but Toon Disney/Jetix was cutoff my cable by Summer 2006, and when Kids WB moved to CW (due to the WB shutting down) in Fall 2006, here in the Atlanta area the block moved to Sunday mornings which made it impossible for me to catch Kids WB since I always had church those days.

I'll say this about the 05-06 school year, it was when Early Gen Z kid influences were starting. With the XBOX 360 being released, Nintendo DS replacing the GBA's popularity, Naruto, Camp Lazlo, Hannah Montana, Ben 10, MY Gym Partner, Guitar Hero,etc.


You can't lie though, the original DS and Lite games were better than the GBA games, and Guitar Hero was awesome. I was always excited playing it at people's houses. Even my music teacher in 8th grade decided to bring in a Wii and let us play on it throughout the semester which made it an easy pass for us  ;D

I'll say this about the 05-06 school year, it was when Early Gen Z kid influences were starting. With the XBOX 360 being released, Nintendo DS replacing the GBA's popularity, Naruto, Camp Lazlo, Hannah Montana, Ben 10, MY Gym Partner, Guitar Hero,etc.


I would say they were starting in 2003-04 school year, with the release of Runescape which was wildly popular in my neighbourhood, but  it wasn't all complete until 2006-07 school year.

I'll say this about the 05-06 school year, it was when Early Gen Z kid influences were starting. With the XBOX 360 being released, Nintendo DS replacing the GBA's popularity, Naruto, Camp Lazlo, Hannah Montana, Ben 10, MY Gym Partner, Guitar Hero,etc.


Yeah, all of those sounds like early Z. Good times. :D

I would say they were starting in 2003-04 school year, with the release of Runescape which was wildly popular in my neighbourhood, but  it wasn't all complete until 2006-07 school year.


IDK, for us here in the U.S. the 2003-04 school year felt like the last true kid culture for Gen Y.

IDK, for us here in the U.S. the 2003-04 school year felt like the last true kid culture for Gen Y.


First half of the '00s (2000-2004) felt like the last Gen Y kid culture years as well. 2005 being the Y/Z cusp and 2006 being first full Gen Z year.

I liked the episodes I watched of Good Luck Charlie, which aired 2010-2014.

I didn't like Suite Life *hides* Or rather, I didn't like my sisters' obsession with them haha.

I should not have been on the road at 16 either. ;D


;D

iCarly was awesome. Too bad it didn't last at least another season!

iCarly was awesome. Too bad it didn't last at least another season!


Well, it did had a great series finale. Loved it when Carly's father finally appeared after all those years.

A show that can represent the late '00s/early '10s very well. Heck it's name is "i"Carly.  The show is okay, but it came out around the time that I started to dislike Nickelodeon. Although if I ever caught it playing on TV I'd just sit down and watch.

IDK, for us here in the U.S. the 2003-04 school year felt like the last true kid culture for Gen Y.


Runescape was pretty popular in the US too.  :o I just remember 2003-04 school year (though just the 2004 portion) involving a lot more Internet than 2002-03. ;D

Well, it did had a great series finale. Loved it when Carly's father finally appeared after all those years.


Nevel Papperman. "You'll rue the day!"  ;D

A show that guess can represent the late '00s/early '10s very well. Heck it's name is "i"Carly.  The show is okay, but it came out around the time that I started to dislike Nickelodeon. Although if I ever caught it playing on TV I'd just sit down and watch.


Haha that's very true.  ;D It was also around the time (2007) that YTV started to do some redesigns of their logo, it felt very 'futuristic'.

Nevel Papperman. "You'll rue the day!"  ;D


Good times. Nevel was one of my favorite antagonists on iCarly.

I don't know how it was in Canada by the mid 2000's, but this is not true here in the US. I repeat for the millionth time, the mid 2000's as a whole was the transition into the social media and digital age. People were not clued to their flip phones or Youtube/Myspace all day long, no where near how people are glued to their screens on Twitter/Instagram/Snapchat/Facebook/Youtube or high speed internet mobile iPhones or Samsungs like they are today. People getting overly sensitive over tweets and how Youtube has changed over the years, not to mention a lot of people watching shows on the internet or Netflix/Hulu now while cable has been declining unless it's live sports or news. The digital age and social media wasn't in FULL effect 100% until the late 2000's. The mid 2000's was the transition. The early 2000's was the last true time in society with the classic living room culture.


You're right. 2005-06 was my first year in college, and even on campus there were still quite a few kids not yet using social media at the time. For example, I didn't create a MySpace account for myself until the spring of 2006, when the year was almost over. Pretty much everybody had a cell phone by that point, but they were still the old flip-phones that lacked all of the flashy features of today's smartphones. Texting was still just about the only thing (outside of calling) you could use a cell phone for. It also wasn't until the second half of 2005-06 that YouTube really started to become a thing. Hulu didn't exist, and Netflix was still years away from offering an online streaming service. In 2005-06, it was still mail rental only.

It was certainly during a transitional era, but 2005-06 still had many old-school "qualities" when compared to today.

You're right. 2005-06 was my first year in college, and even on campus there were still quite a few kids not yet using social media at the time. For example, I didn't create a MySpace account for myself until the spring of 2006, when the year was almost over. Pretty much everybody had a cell phone by that point, but they were still the old flip-phones that lacked all of the flashy features of today's smartphones. Texting was still just about the only thing (outside of calling) you could use a cell phone for. It also wasn't until the second half of 2005-06 that YouTube really started to become a thing. Hulu didn't exist, and Netflix was still years away from offering an online streaming service. In 2005-06, it was still mail rental only.

It was certainly during a transitional era, but 2005-06 still had many old-school "qualities" when compared to today.


Mid-2000s middle/high school to a T, for me.

http://www.dailyedge.ie/14-reasons-the-early-2000s-were-the-golden-age-of-social-networking-1254027-Jan2014/

I don't know about you, but social media was well established by 2005-06 school year here. While flip phones were still the most dominant, people were still addicted to them. Texting/phone addiction was a huge "problem" (the same way smartphones are a "problem") by 2005. I mean, you can't possibly tell me that the first time you heard of phone addiction was in 2010 or something.

You're right about the video streaming stuff though, but where I live people were pirating stuff anyway to make up for the lack of digital availability.

2005 is when Myspace was getting popular. But at the same time it wasn't like how it is today. In 2015 both Facebook and Twitter were the big things. In 2005 no one even knew what Facebook was and Twitter didn't exist. That already makes a difference to me. As for phone addiction I assumed that started way before the mid-late '00s. Although I have no idea what it was like in Canada.

Mid-2000s middle/high school to a T, for me.

http://www.dailyedge.ie/14-reasons-the-early-2000s-were-the-golden-age-of-social-networking-1254027-Jan2014/

I don't know about you, but social media was well established by 2005-06 school year here. While flip phones were still the most dominant, people were still addicted to them. Texting/phone addiction was a huge "problem" (the same way smartphones are a "problem") by 2005. I mean, you can't possibly tell me that the first time you heard of phone addiction was in 2010 or something.

You're right about the video streaming stuff though, but where I live people were pirating stuff anyway to make up for the lack of digital availability.


mqg96 already stated technology addiction picking up in the late 2000s before the 2010s. Not the mid 2000s.

mqg96 already stated technology addiction picking up in the late 2000s before the 2010s. Not the mid 2000s.


I think it was picking up in both.


2005 is when Myspace was getting popular. But at the same time it wasn't like how it is today. In 2015 both Facebook and Twitter were the big things. In 2005 no one even knew what Facebook was and Twitter didn't exist. That already makes a difference to me. As for phone addiction I assumed that started way before the mid-late '00s. Although I have no idea what it was like in Canada.


Is it that much different? I can't imagine myself going up to some kid today going. Man, kids these days, addicted to their Facebook and Twitter, on their smartphone all day. Back in my days we were addicted MySpace and MSN instead! And we used flip-phones instead of smartphones! Life was so much simpler! ;D

Flip phones aren't as advanced as smartphones, but it's not like they were sitting there gathering dust. Unlimited texting plans were extremely popular in 2005 and for good reason.

I think it was picking up in both.

Is it that much different? I can't imagine myself going up to some kid today going. Man, kids these days, addicted to their Facebook and Twitter, on their smartphone all day. Back in my days we were addicted MySpace and MSN instead! And we used flip-phones instead of smartphones! Life was so much simpler! ;D

Flip phones aren't as advanced as smartphones, but it's not like they were sitting there gathering dust. Unlimited texting plans were extremely popular in 2005 and for good reason.


Errr... not sure if I ever said anything like that (or if I ever will say that) especially since Myspace is still around, but besides from social media there are other things that separate 2005 from say 2015 culturally. I only really mentioned social media due to it being brought up.

Errr... not sure if I ever said anything like that (or if I ever will say that) especially since Myspace is still around, but besides from social media there are other things that separate 2005 from say 2015 culturally. I only really mentioned social media due to it being brought up.


Oh. The original comment was SpyroKev saying 2005 was better than 2015 because 2005 'had a balance of technology, and lack of care for social media'. I didn't find 2005 to be all that antiquated.

Oh. The original comment was SpyroKev saying 2005 was better than 2015 because 2005 'had a balance of technology, and lack of care for social media'. I didn't find 2005 to be all that antiquated.


Ah, I got ya. 2005 in terms of social media is a bit interesting. As mentioned before Myspace was entering popularity around that time (according to Wikipedia anyways). So I can see more people getting into social media around that time. 2005 isn't very old (it's certainly outdated, but I'd give it another 4-5 years before I'd consider it VERY old). As for a balance of technology that is right to an extent, but you can see more of more people becoming more obsessed with tech as time moves on. As mentioned before it's sort of like a time of transition. We were transitioning from a period of balance in terms of technology into an era where the people start to become more invested in technology. 2005 isn't like 2008, but it's also isn't like 2002 in terms of tech balance.

Although this is just how I see it.

Ah, I got ya. 2005 in terms of social media is a bit interesting. As mentioned before Myspace was entering popularity around that time (according to Wikipedia anyways). So I can see more people getting into social media around that time. 2005 isn't very old (it's certainly outdated, but I'd give it another 4-5 years before I'd consider it VERY old). As for a balance of technology that is right to an extent, but you can see more of more people becoming more obsessed with tech as time moves on. As mentioned before it's sort of like a time of transition. We were transitioning from a period of balance in terms of technology into an era where the people start to become more invested in technology. 2005 isn't like 2008, but it's also isn't like 2002 in terms of tech balance.

Although this is just how I see it.


Yep, agreed 100%. It's all transitional, with each year becoming more and more advanced. I think in 15 years someone might say 2016 were the simpler times where people weren't addicted to X technology, maybe VR. ;D

Yep, agreed 100%. It's all transitional, with each year becoming more and more advanced. I think in 15 years someone might say 2016 were the simpler times where people weren't addicted to X technology, maybe VR. ;D


In 15 years we'd be in 2031. I can see the 2030s being very different from the 2010s due to the advancements in technology and new trends in culture as a whole. Heck this would would have a "Inthe30s" section. And I'm very interesting to see what Virtual Reality would be like by then. I can see people getting addicted to VR. Instead of spending all day on a computer/phone they'd hook themselves up to this virtual space where'd they interact with others through the internet. It'll certainly be an interesting time. I can see 2016 being a simple time when compared to 2031. 2001 seems like a simpler time when compared to 2016. 

I would say they were starting in 2003-04 school year, with the release of Runescape which was wildly popular in my neighbourhood, but  it wasn't all complete until 2006-07 school year.

Nope you started ageing out of the product! BIG DIFFERENCE! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
2003-04 was the last true Gen Y kid school year, 2004-05 and 2005-06 were Y/Z cusp school years but the 2004-05 school year was the last year where the late Gen Y influence was still dominate. 2005-06 school Early Gen Z was being ushered in.

First half of the '00s (2000-2004) felt like the last Gen Y kid culture years as well. 2005 being the Y/Z cusp and 2006 being first full Gen Z year.

2000-2003: Solid Gen Y kid culture
2004: transitioning from plain Gen Y to Y/Z cusp
2005: ULTIMATE Y/Z cusp year
2006: Beginning of Z kid culture
2007-2009: Solid Early Gen Z culutre

You can't lie though, the original DS and Lite games were better than the GBA games, and Guitar Hero was awesome. I was always excited playing it at people's houses. Even my music teacher in 8th grade decided to bring in a Wii and let us play on it throughout the semester which made it an easy pass for us  ;D

Well.... I never played the DS so I can't say! lol ;D

Well.... I never played the DS so I can't say! lol ;D


You would have loved Mario Kart DS (best handheld MK game of the series) and New Super Mario Bros.

Mid-2000s middle/high school to a T, for me.

http://www.dailyedge.ie/14-reasons-the-early-2000s-were-the-golden-age-of-social-networking-1254027-Jan2014/

I don't know about you, but social media was well established by 2005-06 school year here. While flip phones were still the most dominant, people were still addicted to them. Texting/phone addiction was a huge "problem" (the same way smartphones are a "problem") by 2005. I mean, you can't possibly tell me that the first time you heard of phone addiction was in 2010 or something.

You're right about the video streaming stuff though, but where I live people were pirating stuff anyway to make up for the lack of digital availability.


I also think it depends on which part of the mid '00s you're talking about. 2006 still feels fairly recent, as alot of stuff that we consume these days was in existence by then, but early 2005 and before seems ancient by 2016 standards. No YouTube, no MySpace/Facebook, no Twitter, no portable video players, primitive Wikipedia, PS2 still being the dominant gaming console, etc.

I agree that "text addiction" was starting to become a problem by 2005. It tracks pretty naturally with the proliferation of kids/teens getting cell phones at increasingly earlier ages during this time period. In 2003, from my experience, it was still somewhat uncommon for high school kids to have their own phone (pretty much the only kids at my school that did had parents with money), but by 2005-06 it was already getting to the point where it wasn't that unusual to see a 10-year-old walking around with a Motorola Razr.

You children are lucky to have never experienced the horrors of MakeOutClub and LiveJournal.

2005 isn't yet ole times (like 2000-2002 is) but Mr. Trollpoke is the same guy who insists people were addict to Nokia's in 2000-2002. Nokias!!!! Teen Social Media Cell Phone texting LOL culture was definitely a huge thing in 2005, he's got that right.

You children are lucky to have never experienced the horrors of MakeOutClub and LiveJournal.

2005 isn't yet ole times (like 2000-2002 is) but Mr. Trollpoke is the same guy who insists people were addict to Nokia's in 2000-2002. Nokias!!!! Teen Social Media Cell Phone texting LOL culture was definitely a huge thing in 2005, he's got that right.


I had a LiveJournal but I used it for like two days. Tumblr is worse honestly.  :P

I don't remember saying that about Nokias.  ;D

I had a LiveJournal but I used it for like two days. Tumblr is worse honestly.  :P

I don't remember saying that about Nokias.  ;D


Yeah, it seems the internet has gotten a lot worse than the LiveJournal-MakeOutClub days but it was still pretty scary.

You totally did! You said "In 2000-2002, kids were addicted to technology, too. They had those Nokia phones!" I didn't know snake (literally the only thing on a Nokia phone) was that addicting. :P

I don't recall saying that  :o My dad got his first phone in 1999 and it didn't even have a screen lol. I think my mom got her first phone somewhere in 2001-2003 but I can't even remember how it looks like so... That doesn't sound like something I would say  :P

I don't recall saying that  :o My dad got his first phone in 1999 and it didn't even have a screen lol. I think my mom got her first phone somewhere in 2001-2003 but I can't even remember how it looks like so... That doesn't sound like something I would say  :P


Maybe you were trolling me. >:(

Probably looked like this:
http://www.techtree.com/sites/default/files/2013/9/3310.jpg

The most addicting device on the planet. I don't even think this thing's very text friendly, either. Life was simpler than...

Maybe you were trolling me. >:(

Probably looked like this:
http://www.techtree.com/sites/default/files/2013/9/3310.jpg

The most addicting device on the planet. I don't even think this thing's very text friendly, either. Life was simpler than...


Oh, now it sounds like something I would say  ;D

Those cam still be pretty addictive you know. I knew some kids who had phones like that, then they had those Bluetooth headphones and they would talk on it 24/7. The annoying thing was they didn't have their phone to their head, so I thought they were talking to me. But nope, they're on the phone.

Oh, now it sounds like something I would say  ;D

Those cam still be pretty addictive you know. I knew some kids who had phones like that, then they had those Bluetooth headphones and they would talk on it 24/7. The annoying thing was they didn't have their phone to their head, so I thought they were talking to me. But nope, they're on the phone.


In the early 00's!? Did they have the Bluetooth so they could frost their tips and talk at the same time? At least it's better than 2005's world where teens are looking down at their razors and "txting" their friends about how "omg ohio iz 4 luvrz~ <3." 8-P

I know eh! The radio was unlistenable. Then there was the ringtone rap (Laffy Taffy, Yung Joc etc. as you linked) that was unavoidable wherever you went.

Yep, and the trend caught on at the worst possible time for me, as I had just become a teenager when the radio started to truly suck! I stopped following the Now That's What I Call Music! series beginning with volume 20 in autumn 2005. Most rock songs or non-snap urban were better, but still nowhere near as good as the first half of the 2000s, and there were still a lot of ridiculous pop numbers such as "My Humps," as you already mentioned. 2005-2006 was also when I remember pop punk fully being overtaken by pop-emo, with bands like Fall Out Boy and The Click Five becoming really popular; I appreciate them a little more now than I did back in 7th grade, but they're still definitely no blink-182, Sum 41, or even Good Charlotte. Had I grown up in the UK instead, I would have surely continued to follow popular music instead of completely isolating myself with older bands and obscure stuff like eurodance, j-pop, and eurobeat.

I used to hate Crazy Frog so much back then, I thought it was the root cause of societal decay, but only once I grew older did I realize it was supposed to be a joke. Hopefully people hating on Gangnam Style and Harlem Shake right now will realize that too.  :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k85mRPqvMbE

Oh god, I forgot to bring up that song when describing how awful the radio was in 2005-2006 in America.  There was so much great electronic music in the UK, and yet of all songs America catches on to the Crazy Frog bastardization of an iconic movie theme from two decades prior! 8-P At least "Everytime We Touch" was pretty good, though I remember despising how it was like the only song that represented electronic dance music at the time. Even if Crazy Frog was a joke, it still disgusted me that people allowed it to become so popular while ignoring acts like Infernal, Girls Aloud, and September.

Yep, and the trend caught on at the worst possible time for me, as I had just become a teenager when the radio started to truly suck! I stopped following the Now That's What I Call Music! series beginning with volume 20 in autumn 2005. Most rock songs or non-snap urban were better, but still nowhere near as good as the first half of the 2000s, and there were still a lot of ridiculous pop numbers such as "My Humps," as you already mentioned. 2005-2006 was also when I remember pop punk fully being overtaken by pop-emo, with bands like Fall Out Boy and The Click Five becoming really popular; I appreciate them a little more now than I did back in 7th grade, but they're still definitely no blink-182, Sum 41, or even Good Charlotte. Had I grown up in the UK instead, I would have surely continued to follow popular music instead of completely isolating myself with older bands and obscure stuff like eurodance, j-pop, and eurobeat.

Oh god, I forgot to bring up that song when describing how awful the radio was in 2005-2006 in America.  There was so much great electronic music in the UK, and yet of all songs America catches on to the Crazy Frog bastardization of an iconic movie theme from two decades prior! 8-P At least "Everytime We Touch" was pretty good, though I remember despising how it was like the only song that represented electronic dance music at the time. Even if Crazy Frog was a joke, it still disgusted me that people allowed it to become so popular while ignoring acts like Infernal, Girls Aloud, and September.


I liked Fall Out Boy and The Click Five!  ;D Sum 41 came out with a new album the previous year I think, which I didn't think was as bad as Jordan says, but it definitely lost the upbeat early 2000s style.

I also starting giving up on North American music as the year progressed, certainly the radio. That was more 2006-07 school year though, with me getting into Scandinavian metal and J-rock. However, if you grew up in the UK, I think you would have to deal with "chavs" at your school. I have a lot of British friends and they complained about chavs non-stop.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/JNGS82Q5O2gKI/200_s.gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/880ec084b3d171114a55554f5e5d8fadc14ac71f.jpg

Atrocious.  ;D

You children are lucky to have never experienced the horrors of MakeOutClub and LiveJournal.

2005 isn't yet ole times (like 2000-2002 is) but Mr. Trollpoke is the same guy who insists people were addict to Nokia's in 2000-2002. Nokias!!!! Teen Social Media Cell Phone texting LOL culture was definitely a huge thing in 2005, he's got that right.


I don't really think kids today are lucky. I mean, we have Tumblr for god's sakes. We have people posting very weird things there. So, I don't know how LiveJournal was bad, if it was just your typical early 2000s website.

I don't really think kids today are lucky. I mean, we have Tumblr for god's sakes. We have people posting very weird things there. So, I don't know how LiveJournal was bad, if it was just your typical early 2000s website.


LiveJournal is the precursor to Tumblr really, the demographics of the sites are the same. The only reason I would say LiveJournal isn't as bad is because a lot of it was closed off and underground. If you didn't have an account or weren't 'invited' to look at certain pages, you couldn't view them. There is nothing underground about Tumblr, you don't need an account to browse it.

However, if you grew up in the UK, I think you would have to deal with "chavs" at your school. I have a lot of British friends and they complained about chavs non-stop.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/880ec084b3d171114a55554f5e5d8fadc14ac71f.jpg

Atrocious.  ;D


Based on what I looked up on Urban Dictionary, it sounds like chavs are basically the British equivalent to wiggers in the United States. At least the worst 2000s rap music wasn't flooding the airwaves in the UK during the mid-late 2000s as it was in the United States, though.

I can't speak for 2006. 2005 was all about the R&B. It was killer that year. I can agree that the good Hip Hop in the mid 2000s is outnumbered by the worst.

I liked Fall Out Boy and The Click Five!  ;D Sum 41 came out with a new album the previous year I think, which I didn't think was as bad as Jordan says, but it definitely lost the upbeat early 2000s style.

I also starting giving up on North American music as the year progressed, certainly the radio. That was more 2006-07 school year though, with me getting into Scandinavian metal and J-rock. However, if you grew up in the UK, I think you would have to deal with "chavs" at your school. I have a lot of British friends and they complained about chavs non-stop.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/JNGS82Q5O2gKI/200_s.gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/880ec084b3d171114a55554f5e5d8fadc14ac71f.jpg

Atrocious.  ;D


They released it in 2011 and it's terrible like The Click Five and Fall Out Boy. If I liked the Black Parade, then I'd like Screaming Bloody Fumbles but I don't. I like heavy albums like Does This Look Infected and All Killer No Filler, thank you.

Chav this, Chav that. Chav, Chav, Chav. The real 00's UK in a nutshell. UK had a sick Pop Punk scene in the early 00's; sh!t like My Dad Joe is rad.


LiveJournal is the precursor to Tumblr really, the demographics of the sites are the same. The only reason I would say LiveJournal isn't as bad is because a lot of it was closed off and underground. If you didn't have an account or weren't 'invited' to look at certain pages, you couldn't view them. There is nothing underground about Tumblr, you don't need an account to browse it.


LiveJournal is pre-Faux Emo (at least from 1999-2002 it was) so it isn't as bad. But yeah, it wasn't as bad but it definitely got bad. Refer to my finding of the Kris Roe fanfiction in the other thread....


I don't really think kids today are lucky. I mean, we have Tumblr for god's sakes. We have people posting very weird things there. So, I don't know how LiveJournal was bad, if it was just your typical early 2000s website.


I agree. You kids aren't lucky, but it doesn't mean my era's sites weren't bad as well. MakeOutClub is one of the stupidest things ever (but at least it's not MySpace).

They released it in 2011 and it's terrible like The Click Five and Fall Out Boy. If I liked the Black Parade, then I'd like Screaming Bloody Fumbles but I don't. I like heavy albums like Does This Look Infected and All Killer No Filler, thank you.

Chav this, Chav that. Chav, Chav, Chav. The real 00's UK in a nutshell. UK had a sick Pop Punk scene in the early 00's; sh!t like My Dad Joe is rad.

LiveJournal is pre-Faux Emo (at least from 1999-2002 it was) so it isn't as bad. But yeah, it wasn't as bad but it definitely got bad. Refer to my finding of the Kris Roe fanfiction in the other thread....

I agree. You kids aren't lucky, but it doesn't mean my era's sites weren't bad as well. MakeOutClub is one of the stupidest things ever (but at least it's not MySpace).


I heard good things about 2000s British garage rock bands, though I never got into it myself.

I used to hate Crazy Frog so much back then, I thought it was the root cause of societal decay, but only once I grew older did I realize it was supposed to be a joke. Hopefully people hating on Gangnam Style and Harlem Shake right now will realize that too.  :(

k85mRPqvMbE


I remember the first time I heard that song. I started Karate or Martial Arts as a white belt in Summer 2005 and whenever we did laps and drills around the room our instructor would always put on music like that including Crazy Frog. I actually thought it was a great music or beat to listen to while you're exercising or having a workout. It's not the type of song you should compare to regular genres of songs you listen to on the radio. Even though it was mainstream it felt like an alternative song that you'd listen to while you're at the gym. If this song debuted in the early 2000's instead of the mid 2000's I guarantee you people would be praising it more. I think what annoyed people about this song is that it got way too repetitive, which I agree with, but that's a lot of mainstream songs. Tonight's Gonna Be A Good Night by Black Eyed Peas got too repetitive and Happy by Pharrell Williams got too repetitive as well.

I remember the first time I heard that song. I started Karate or Martial Arts as a white belt in Summer 2005 and whenever we did laps and drills around the room our instructor would always put on music like that including Crazy Frog. I actually thought it was a great music or beat to listen to while you're exercising or having a workout. It's not the type of song you should compare to regular genres of songs you listen to on the radio. Even though it was mainstream it felt like an alternative song that you'd listen to while you're at the gym. If this song debuted in the early 2000's instead of the mid 2000's I guarantee you people would be praising it more. I think what annoyed people about this song is that it got way too repetitive, which I agree with, but that's a lot of mainstream songs. Tonight's Gonna Be A Good Night by Black Eyed Peas got too repetitive and Happy by Pharrell Williams got too repetitive as well.


I don't know if those are fair comparisons. This song was made to annoy people and make people laugh, and annoy people it did, not sure if everyone was laughing though.  ;D

I don't know if we'd like it if it were made in the early 2000s. Maybe we would because we were still kids, but Papi Chulo also came out in 2002 and it annoyed me still. There's also Rollin' by Limp Bizkit which came out 2000, and most people my age I know have a visceral hate for that song among other Limp Bizkit songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVsYckNXYqM

I thought Happy was a good song, and a fun dance trend.  :D Tonight's Gonna Be A Good Night did get repetitive, I agree with you on that.

Though I do have some Y2K era guilty pleasures, such as the boyband/girlbands and Good Charlotte.  ;D

I remember the first time I heard that song. I started Karate or Martial Arts as a white belt in Summer 2005 and whenever we did laps and drills around the room our instructor would always put on music like that including Crazy Frog. I actually thought it was a great music or beat to listen to while you're exercising or having a workout. It's not the type of song you should compare to regular genres of songs you listen to on the radio. Even though it was mainstream it felt like an alternative song that you'd listen to while you're at the gym. If this song debuted in the early 2000's instead of the mid 2000's I guarantee you people would be praising it more. I think what annoyed people about this song is that it got way too repetitive, which I agree with, but that's a lot of mainstream songs.


No thank you, I'd rather work out to something like this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j7b3zkvEtU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx64MbvgXzA

Of course there's somewhat a cheese factor to both tracks, but they aren't insultingly dumb so much as they're wildly propulsive! I would listen to the latter song so many times working out at the gym or especially when running; hearing it again gives me quite the memories!

Actually, while we're on the subject of cheesy eurodance songs, I think this track here from late 1997 is way more annoying even than the Crazy Frog cover of "Axel F" - and I can understand why a lot of people would despise it - but it's cheesy in a brilliant way!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NO-h9PFum4

The lyrics are simply the most ridiculous thing you'll ever hear, but there's actual substance to the monstrosity, not just slapping the bastard child of Jar Jar Binks and Gollum over an old instrumental!

Though I do have some Y2K era guilty pleasures, such as the boyband/girlbands and Good Charlotte.  ;D


What's wrong with sum GC?? Just because they look(ed) like Gothic Nu Metallers Joel raps in some of the songs, doesn't mean it's bad. Limp Bizkit does suck, though. You got that right. KEEP ON ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN!


I heard good things about 2000s British garage rock bands, though I never got into it myself.


Neither did I. It wasn't bad but I wasn't too interested in that kinda stuff. On the other hand, My Dad Joe totally kills it. Totally rad Pop Punk.

The 2005-2006 school year was one of the worst ever for music, even compared to 2014-2015, at least in the United States:


Are you kidding me? That was actually one of the better school years for music in the US. 2012-2013 would be more appropriate because that's where the worst songs of the decade reside. Here is the Billboard Hot 100 Top 40 on the week ending December 27, 2014. The songs in blue are good, the songs in red are bad, and the green ones are alright.

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2014-12-27

1. Blank Space - Taylor Swift
2. Take Me to Church - Hozier (not a fan of the music video though)
3. Uptown Funk! - Mark Ronson
4. Lips Are Movin' - Meghan Trainor
5. I'm Not the Only One - Sam Smith
6. Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran
7. All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor
8. Animals - Maroon 5
9. Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande
10. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift
11. Jealous - Nick Jonas
12. Only - Nicki Minaj
13. The Heart Wants What It Wants - Selena Gomez
14. I Don't Screw with You - Big Sean
15. Habits (Stay High) - Tove Lo
16. Tuesday - I LOVE MAKONNEN
17. Don't - Ed Sheeran
18. Waves (Remix) - Mr. Probz
19. Bang Bang - Jessie J
20. 7/11 - Beyoncé
21. Blame - Calvin Harris
22. No Type - Rae Sremmurd
23. The Hanging Tree - Jennifer Lawrence
24. Hot Boy - Bobby Shmurda
25. Stay with Me - Sam Smith
26. Centuries - Fall Out Boy
27. CoCo - O.T. Genasis
28. Beg For It - Iggy Azalea
29. Don't Tell 'Em - Jeremih
30. Black Widow - Iggy Azalea I actually kind of like the music video though.
31. Trumpets - Jason Derulo
32. Riptide - Vance Joy
33. Lifestyle - Rich Gang The music actually isn't too bad - It's the guy's voice!!  8-P
34. Chandelier - Sia
35. Heroes (We Could Be) - Alesso & Tove Lo
36. Rather Be - Clean Bandit
37. I Don't Mind - Usher
38. Something in the Water - Carrie Underwood
39. Shotgun Rider - Tim McGraw
40. All I Want for Christmas is You - Mariah Carey

This represents the center of the 2014-2015 school year, and it really goes to show that it was not a bad period for music. Not even all of the hip-hop was bad. If you're talking about the school year as a whole, then I can understand a little more of where you're coming from. Fetty Wap became popular in early 2015  8-P He was the biggest mistake of that school year. But as a whole, the 2014-2015 school year was just as good, if not even better, than the 2013-2014 school year. I would have been just as happy with this music as my "senior year of high school" music as I am with the year immediately preceding it.

Are you kidding me? That was actually one of the better school years for music in the US. 2012-2013 would be more appropriate because that's where the worst songs of the decade reside. Here is the Billboard Hot 100 Top 40 on the week ending December 27, 2014. The songs in blue are good, the songs in red are bad, and the green ones are alright.

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2014-12-27

1. Blank Space - Taylor Swift
2. Take Me to Church - Hozier (not a fan of the music video though)
3. Uptown Funk! - Mark Ronson
4. Lips Are Movin' - Meghan Trainor
5. I'm Not the Only One - Sam Smith
6. Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran
7. All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor
8. Animals - Maroon 5
9. Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande
10. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift
11. Jealous - Nick Jonas
12. Only - Nicki Minaj
13. The Heart Wants What It Wants - Selena Gomez
14. I Don't Screw with You - Big Sean
15. Habits (Stay High) - Tove Lo
16. Tuesday - I LOVE MAKONNEN
17. Don't - Ed Sheeran
18. Waves (Remix) - Mr. Probz
19. Bang Bang - Jessie J
20. 7/11 - Beyoncé
21. Blame - Calvin Harris
22. No Type - Rae Sremmurd
23. The Hanging Tree - Jennifer Lawrence
24. Hot Boy - Bobby Shmurda
25. Stay with Me - Sam Smith
26. Centuries - Fall Out Boy
27. CoCo - O.T. Genasis
28. Beg For It - Iggy Azalea
29. Don't Tell 'Em - Jeremih
30. Black Widow - Iggy Azalea I actually kind of like the music video though.
31. Trumpets - Jason Derulo
32. Riptide - Vance Joy
33. Lifestyle - Rich Gang The music actually isn't too bad - It's the guy's voice!!  8-P
34. Chandelier - Sia
35. Heroes (We Could Be) - Alesso & Tove Lo
36. Rather Be - Clean Bandit
37. I Don't Mind - Usher
38. Something in the Water - Carrie Underwood
39. Shotgun Rider - Tim McGraw
40. All I Want for Christmas is You - Mariah Carey

This represents the center of the 2014-2015 school year, and it really goes to show that it was not a bad period for music. Not even all of the hip-hop was bad. If you're talking about the school year as a whole, then I can understand a little more of where you're coming from. Fetty Wap became popular in early 2015  8-P He was the biggest mistake of that school year. But as a whole, the 2014-2015 school year was just as good, if not even better, than the 2013-2014 school year. I would have been just as happy with this music as my "senior year of high school" music as I am with the year immediately preceding it.


I agree with the 2012-2013 school year being the absolute worst for music, including Summer 2013 as well. I wouldn't say 2012 as a whole or 2013 as a whole were bad music, because I thought Spring 2012 for music was really good from the 2011-2012 school year while I thought Fall 2013 for music really good from the 2013-2014 school year. I still think the 2013-2014 school year for music totally beats 2014-2015 by a landslide though.

Are you kidding me? That was actually one of the better school years for music in the US. 2012-2013 would be more appropriate because that's where the worst songs of the decade reside. Here is the Billboard Hot 100 Top 40 on the week ending December 27, 2014. The songs in blue are good, the songs in red are bad, and the green ones are alright.

Since I want to give everything a fair chance, I'm going to give a personal rundown of the 40 songs you listed.

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2014-12-27

1. Blank Space - Taylor Swift - Meh, extremely overrated.
2. Take Me to Church - Hozier (not a fan of the music video though) - Ironic, the music video is the only truly good thing about this otherwise pretentious song.
3. Uptown Funk! - Mark Ronson - It has that funk, but not a fleshed out melodic progression. It's just okay in my eyes.
4. Lips Are Movin' - Meghan Trainor - Meghan Trainor is really just decent. At least her style is more than just overproduced EDM, I just don't think she breathes that much life into classic 60s soul.
5. I'm Not the Only One - Sam Smith - Admittedly, this is pretty good. Sam Smith is considered one of the best artists of 2014-2015 for a reason.
6. Thinking Out Loud - Ed Sheeran - Same as Sam Smith. Ed Sheeran is probably one of the only core 2010s artists who I genuinely enjoy.
7. All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor - Similar thoughts as "Lips are Movin'." It's an enjoyable throwback to 60s soul, just not done as exquisitely as the greats.
8. Animals - Maroon 5 - Okay, this song is just terrible. I can't stand the synthesized wreck that Maroon 5 have devolved into since their Songs About Jane days.
9. Love Me Harder - Ariana Grande - Mediocre. Uninteresting melodies, annoying bassline.
10. Shake It Off - Taylor Swift - It still baffles me that Taylor Swift became the biggest artist in the world and won Album of the Year for 1989. This is so melodically vapid and watered down compared even to your typical 2000s pop number.
11. Jealous - Nick Jonas - You could take this same tune and repackage it with a Y2K era beat, and it'd still be one of the weaker teen pop songs of its era. Boring.
12. Only - Nicki Minaj - Pretty much the equivalent to musical noise, but it fails as art-noise due to the out-of-place hook by Chris Brown.
13. The Heart Wants What It Wants - Selena Gomez - Wow, great title. Pretty much your typical, marginal mid-2010s pop song.
14. I Don't Screw with You - Big Sean - This is basically as bad as your typical snap song from the mid-late 2010s. It's such an amateur production, even if it's less repetitive than "This Is Why I'm Hot."
15. Habits (Stay High) - Tove Lo - Disposable mid-2010s pop, complete with that fake, pretentious "indie" accent.
16. Tuesday - I LOVE MAKONNEN - Another amateur production, though it's at least not as bad as "I Don't F**k with You." It feels like there's potential for something in this, it's just executed lazily.
17. Don't - Ed Sheeran - Alas, this may not be the lousiest song on this list, but it still completely pales in comparison to "Thinking Out Loud," "Sing," and "Photograph."
18. Waves (Remix) - Mr. Probz - Definitely one of the better songs here overall, but still not really that interesting, imo.
19. Bang Bang - Jessie J - A somewhat decent song, for the same reasons as the Meghan Trainor songs. It has a bit of an old school flair, just not done with much substance.
20. 7/11 - Beyoncé - Sleazy, repetitive trap.
21. Blame - Calvin Harris - I would probably like this if it were a mid-90s eurodance song, but I find it overproduced here, not to mention the lead vocalist sounds odd once again.
22. No Type - Rae Sremmurd - Oh lovely, more trap rap! Musical, this ain't.
23. The Hanging Tree - Jennifer Lawrence - Jennifer Lawrence isn't really the best singer. I'd probably like this more if I had seen the movie though, to be fair.
24. Hot Boy - Bobby Shmurda - Sigh.
25. Stay with Me - Sam Smith - This is pretty okay, not as good as "I'm Not the Only One."
26. Centuries - Fall Out Boy - This makes me miss old Fall Out Boy. Really uninteresting melodies and needless trap elements just don't do it for me.
27. CoCo - O.T. Genasis - Another really neanderthalic "rap" song. This makes Lil Wayne sound like The Notorious B.I.G.
28. Beg For It - Iggy Azalea - Iggy Azalea is a pretty embarrassing poser.
29. Don't Tell 'Em - Jeremih - Seriously, it's just a bastardization of the first core 90s euroadance song over a lone raindrop synthesizer with a generic.
30. Black Widow - Iggy Azalea I actually kind of like the music video though. - Haw haw haw. (the song, not your comment)
31. Trumpets - Jason Derulo - I loved the singles from Jason Derulo's debut album, too bad his later work can't stack up to it.
32. Riptide - Vance Joy - One of the better songs, but again, I can't get into the guy's indie accent.
33. Lifestyle - Rich Gang The music actually isn't too bad - It's the guy's voice!!  8-P - Yeah, it's pretty laughable.
34. Chandelier - Sia - Probably one of the only fairly good pop songs here; I don't like the indie pronunciation, but at least the melody soars.
35. Heroes (We Could Be) - Alesso & Tove Lo - Probably the best EDM hit on this list. It just about matches up to your typical electronic songs from the 2000s.
36. Rather Be - Clean Bandit - Also one of the best tracks here. I love the syncopated backdrop melodies that partially harken to early 90s house, but with a newer finesse.
37. I Don't Mind - Usher - I've never been the biggest Usher fan aside from "U Got It Bad" and "DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love." This song is tolerable, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it good.
38. Something in the Water - Carrie Underwood - This has a nice, propulsive beat and a solid melodic progression, complete with Carrie's winning voice. One of the school year's highlights, for sure.
39. Shotgun Rider - Tim McGraw - Tim McGraw is one of the better modern country artists, and he still sounds great even 20 years after "Don't Take the Girl."
40. All I Want for Christmas is You - Mariah Carey - A holiday classic, but it's 20 years older than this school year and is popular every Christmas, so it doesn't count, in my opinion.

This represents the center of the 2014-2015 school year, and it really goes to show that it was not a bad period for music. Not even all of the hip-hop was bad. If you're talking about the school year as a whole, then I can understand a little more of where you're coming from. Fetty Wap became popular in early 2015  8-P He was the biggest mistake of that school year. But as a whole, the 2014-2015 school year was just as good, if not even better, than the 2013-2014 school year. I would have been just as happy with this music as my "senior year of high school" music as I am with the year immediately preceding it.


To be fair, we at least seem to largely agree which songs are the best and which are the worst, but considering the large number of downright crappy songs (something most school years lack for me), plus only a few songs that I genuinely consider good, I think I can safely say 2014-2015 was a relatively bad school year for music. There are other popular songs from 2014-2015 that I really like, especially "Hideaway" by Kiesza (which was much more successful on the Mainstream Top 40 chart than the Billboard Hot 100), but even 2013-2014 had far more in the way of great songs.

Just for kicks, I'm going to do the same thing you just did, only with December 31, 2014, twenty years earlier:

1. On Bended Knee - Boyz II Men
2. Here Comes the Hotstepper - Ini Kamoze
3. Another Night - Real McCoy
4. Creep - TLC
5. Always - Bon Jovi
6. I Wanna Be Down - Brandy
7. I'll Make Love to You - Boyz II Men
8. Before I Let You Go - Blackstreet
9. Tootsee Roll - 69 Boyz
10. I'm the Only One - Melissa Etheridge
11. You Want This - Janet Jackson
12. Secret - Madonna
13. Sukiyaki - 4 P.M.
14. Take a Bow - Madonna
15. Short Short Man - 20 Fingers feat. Gillette
16. You Gotta Be - Des'ree
17. All I Wanna Do - Sheryl Crow
18. Turn the Beat Around - Gloria Estefan
19. Practice What You Preach - Barry White
20. I'll Stand By You - The Pretenders
21. 100% Pure Love - Crystal Waters
22. The Rhythm of the Night - Corona
23. The Sweetest Days - Vanessa Williams
24. You Don't Know How It Feels - Tom Petty
25. Hold My Hand - Hootie & the Blowfish
26. December 1963 (Oh, What a Night) - Four Seasons
27. Living in Danger - Ace of Base
28. Every Day of the Week - Jade
29. Constantly - Immature
30. Never Lie - Immature
31. New Age Girl - Deadeye Dick
32. What's the Frequency, Kenneth? - R.E.M.
33. I Belong to You - Toni Braxton
34. Be Happy - Mary J. Blige
35. Flava in Ya Ear - Craig Mack
36. When Can I See You - Babyface
37. Wild Night - John Mellencamp and Me'shell Ndegeocello
38. Shame - Zhané
39. Thuggish Ruggish Bone - Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
40. I Seen a Man Die - Scarface

It's pretty much all blue and green, with the Gloria Estefan song being the only really weak track, in part due to my distaste in disco, as well as the fact that the song has one of the worst intros of any track I've ever heard. Still, that's a pretty solid and consistent record, and it isn't even the absolute best that the 90s had to offer.

What's wrong with sum GC?? Just because they look(ed) like Gothic Nu Metallers Joel raps in some of the songs, doesn't mean it's bad. Limp Bizkit does suck, though. You got that right. KEEP ON ROLLIN ROLLIN ROLLIN!

Neither did I. It wasn't bad but I wasn't too interested in that kinda stuff. On the other hand, My Dad Joe totally kills it. Totally rad Pop Punk.


It is extremely cheesy though, and not in a self-aware way. I can see why someone would be turned off.

Since I want to give everything a fair chance, I'm going to give a personal rundown of the 40 songs you listed.

To be fair, we at least seem to largely agree which songs are the best and which are the worst, but considering the large number of downright crappy songs (something most school years lack for me), plus only a few songs that I genuinely consider good, I think I can safely say 2014-2015 was a relatively bad school year for music. There are other popular songs from 2014-2015 that I really like, especially "Hideaway" by Kiesza (which was much more successful on the Mainstream Top 40 chart than the Billboard Hot 100), but even 2013-2014 had far more in the way of great songs.


I'm honestly surprised you disliked "Take Me to Church", "Shake It Off", "Habits", "Don't", "Centuries", "Don't Tell 'Em", and "I Don't Mind". You said the indie songs were pretentious; Well, a lot of '90s songs are pretentious as well. That doesn't make them bad. Look at Madonna's "Secret" - it's pretentious, but it actually works in its favor. I also strongly disagree with a lot of the songs you thought were uninteresting as well. The stripped-down productions of many of those songs were quite refreshing - a big shift away from the chaotic early 2010's song. I'm guessing you see them as more boring than relaxing.

And "Blame" overproduced? Seriously? That's not true at all. Actually, I think a lot of non-rap songs since 2013 have been much more underproduced and less overproduced. It's really the early 2010's when the music was overproduced (a subjective term btw).

You really miss the old Fall Out Boy? I don't miss them at all. Ever since they made a comeback in 2013, their music has actually become a lot more interesting and clever, whereas before they were just a typical mid '00s Emo pop band. As for "Centuries", that beat is not trap. It's just a rather old school hip-hop beat not unlike Imagine Dragons' "Demons", nor do I find the melodies uninteresting. As a matter of fact, the producer of "Centuries" is J.R. Rotem, who produced numerous recession era hits such as Jason Derulo's debut album singles.

Your hostile reactions to the sampling of '90s songs is totally understandable, but a bit unnecessary. After all, how do you think fans of '60s music felt when Naughty by Nature sampled Jackson 5's 1970 hit "ABC" in their 1991 hit "O.P.P."? They probably didn't like it. I see no problem with the '90s songs sampling older classics, just like how I have no problem with contemporary songs sampling '90s classics (with the possible exception of Tory Lanez's "Say It").

"The Heart Wants What It Wants" is not a true representation of mid 2010's pop. That song sounded dated when it was new - I thought it fit in much better with the likes of 2008 and earlier hits. It sounds like a 2000's song. Speaking of which, "Shake It Off" isn't watered down and "melodically vapid", and I actually like the production. I feel you're just criticizing her because of her success. She may not be the greatest artists ever, but she's talented and good-natured and I think she has earned her success.

In the end we're really just spewing opinions at each other. I'm still quite surprised by your reactions though. It really seems as if you're just looking for something to criticize in every song, including ones that aren't even bad by man means (every song above that I said I was surprised you disliked, even "I Don't Mind"). I even mildly disagree with your 1994 list (too many greens, not enough blues). I love "Turn the Beat Around", which isn't disco but rather Latin pop and dance.

To be totally honest, you're a kind of pessimist. There's no other way to put it, I notice you see the glass as half-empty and focus an incredible amount of time and energy on the downsides of present day life instead of appreciating the good. There's not much I can say about this because I don't know how your brain works, but we have very different mindsets. I'm honestly sorry you feel so bitter about the world today. And I don't know what is in store tomorrow, but I always reflect on the upsides of my circumstances and I hope that is something that you will discover as well as time moves forward. You have my encouragement.

Peace, Arctic

I'm honestly surprised you disliked "Take Me to Church", "Shake It Off", "Habits", "Don't", "Centuries", "Don't Tell 'Em", and "I Don't Mind". You said the indie songs were pretentious; Well, a lot of '90s songs are pretentious as well. That doesn't make them bad. Look at Madonna's "Secret" - it's pretentious, but it actually works in its favor.

How is "Secret" pretentious, good or not? To my ears, it's just a smooth, satisfying mid-90s pop number.

I also strongly disagree with a lot of the songs you thought were uninteresting as well. The stripped-down productions of many of those songs were quite refreshing - a big shift away from the chaotic early 2010's song. I'm guessing you see them as more boring than relaxing.

Justin Bieber's "Love Yourself" is a much better example of a stripped-down song done right. It's actually really musical and doesn't sound awkward or under-supported.

And "Blame" overproduced? Seriously? That's not true at all. Actually, I think a lot of non-rap songs since 2013 have been much more underproduced and less overproduced. It's really the early 2010's when the music was overproduced (a subjective term btw).

It just has a very odd sound to its main synth hook, which I don't like.

You really miss the old Fall Out Boy? I don't miss them at all. Ever since they made a comeback in 2013, their music has actually become a lot more interesting and clever, whereas before they were just a typical mid '00s Emo pop band. As for "Centuries", that beat is not trap. It's just a rather old school hip-hop beat not unlike Imagine Dragons' "Demons", nor do I find the melodies uninteresting. As a matter of fact, the producer of "Centuries" is J.R. Rotem, who produced numerous recession era hits such as Jason Derulo's debut album singles.

I never loved old Fall Out Boy, but I certainly don't find their new stuff any more "clever" than their old material. "Centuries" just seems kind of melodically dissonant, in my opinion, which doesn't work well with Patrick Stump's pristine vocal.

Your hostile reactions to the sampling of '90s songs is totally understandable, but a bit unnecessary. After all, how do you think fans of '60s music felt when Naughty by Nature sampled Jackson 5's 1970 hit "ABC" in their 1991 hit "O.P.P."? They probably didn't like it. I see no problem with the '90s songs sampling older classics, just like how I have no problem with contemporary songs sampling '90s classics (with the possible exception of Tory Lanez's "Say It").

Well, there's a certain method to making old school samples actually work, as opposed to just lazily referencing them. Puff Daddy applied a lot of old samples to great effect back in the 90s (as did several other producers, actually), but "Don't Tell 'Em" just slaps the melody of "Rhythm Is a Dancer" over a repetitive synth loop. It doesn't bring anything positive to the original song and just sounds out of place.

"The Heart Wants What It Wants" is not a true representation of mid 2010's pop. That song sounded dated when it was new - I thought it fit in much better with the likes of 2008 and earlier hits. It sounds like a 2000's song.

Maybe late 2000s, not core or early though.

Speaking of which, "Shake It Off" isn't watered down and "melodically vapid", and I actually like the production. I feel you're just criticizing her because of her success. She may not be the greatest artists ever, but she's talented and good-natured and I think she has earned her success.

I don't really feel she's earned her success, at least not to the point she deserved to become the best-selling artist of 2015 and the winner of Album of the Year. The production of "Shake It Off" is pretty similar to Pharrell's "Happy," but the song doesn't have the same originality as that and just comes off as a standard uptempo pop number to my ears, not 2014-2015's supposed equivalent of "Fantasy" or even "Bad Romance."

In the end we're really just spewing opinions at each other. I'm still quite surprised by your reactions though. It really seems as if you're just looking for something to criticize in every song, including ones that aren't even bad by man means (every song above that I said I was surprised you disliked, even "I Don't Mind"). I even mildly disagree with your 1994 list (too many greens, not enough blues).

Honestly? I tried to be fair and give every song a chance. I didn't hold back when I genuinely thought a song from 2014-2015 was good. I'm not going to criticize "Thinking Out Loud," "I'm Not the Only One," "Heroes (We Could Be)," "Rather Be," or the like just to prove a point.

I'm surprised you think I'm too negative about my 1994 list, considering it's still a lot more positive than your impressions of the Billboard Hot 100 hits from the end of 2014. The Hot 100 isn't even a representation of the best the year had to offer; stuff like "Fell on Black Days" and "When I Come Around" would've only shown up on the airplay charts. Actually, if I had been reviewing the final week of any year from 1997 to 2000, instead, I'm pretty confident you'd criticize me for not having enough reds or oranges and labelling plenty of songs you despise as blue.

I love "Turn the Beat Around", which isn't disco but rather Latin pop and dance.

It's a cover of a disco song though and retains a lot of the disco elements of the original.

To be totally honest, you're a kind of pessimist. There's no other way to put it, I notice you see the glass as half-empty and focus an incredible amount of time and energy on the downsides of present day life instead of appreciating the good. There's not much I can say about this because I don't know how your brain works, but we have very different mindsets. I'm honestly sorry you feel so bitter about the world today. And I don't know what is in store tomorrow, but I always reflect on the upsides of my circumstances and I hope that is something that you will discover as well as time moves forward. You have my encouragement.

Peace, Arctic

I would honestly like to really appreciate the present, but I find it so difficult to fit in with other people or discover very much new stuff that appeals to me. I find popular culture today in general really artificial and pretentious, and a very large part of that is due to how unappreciated I feel I am as the individual I am. Being an individualistic, intellectual, transgendered, hopeless romantic lipstick lesbian is an experience very few people can relate to, but it creates a sense of alienation that the rancid, conformist culture of today only exacerbates. Ever since the start of this cultural decade, with the rise of the gay marriage movement and the expansion of online communication, I was optimistic that society was building the framework that would finally allow somebody as eccentric as myself to find romance and friendship without a hassle. Instead, I've been devastated to see my fellow lesbians celebrating the triumphs of the LGBT movements, yet not see any results in my personal life whatsoever; I continue to feel like an outsider within the lesbian community, which is incredibly conformist yet necessary for me to explore just to find a partner. Meanwhile, SJW's are constantly complaining about how men treat women as objects, yet I personally can't win the affection of other women even as a completely love-oriented (not sex-oriented) woman, while the majority of women my age still have boyfriends regardless. It all feels like a labyrinth of hypocrisy, of empty promises for greater opportunity when really life only continues to grow shallower and lonelier by the day.

I think this all, at least, partially fuels my hatred of the mid-2010s. Seeing things from this cultural era immediately brings images to my mind of how manipulative, alienating, deceptive, and superficial society has become and how hopeless everything feels for an individual like myself. Just seeing a side-buzz haircut on a guy, a modern-day romantic couple, or people taking selfies is enough to make my stomach crawl. It's hard for me to even expose myself to mainstream popular culture, which is why I spend so much of my time in my own world, listening to music mostly from 1982-2003, playing The Sims 2 (with families I can relate to), watching The Twilight Zone, or, of course, posting here. Back during the cultural early 2010s, especially summer 2009 through spring 2011 in particular, I wanted to be a part of the world, I wanted to meet other people, I embraced much of the popular culture that was coming out. I still didn't really have that many friends in real life, but I was still in a much happier place regardless. Everything has just gone downhill since then, as I've seen more the hypocrisy of current-generation progressivism, the stagnation of creativity, and the seeming impossibility of me ever finding my dreamy dame.

It is extremely cheesy though, and not in a self-aware way. I can see why someone would be turned off.


Good Charlotte is the definition of self-aware. Did you see in the Anthem where Benji lip-syncs to Joel's lines? Definition self-aware. O0

I would honestly like to really appreciate the present, but I find it so difficult to fit in with other people or discover very much new stuff that appeals to me. I find popular culture today in general really artificial and pretentious, and a very large part of that is due to how unappreciated I feel I am as the individual I am. Being an individualistic, intellectual, transgendered, hopeless romantic lipstick lesbian is an experience very few people can relate to, but it creates a sense of alienation that the rancid, conformist culture of today only exacerbates. Ever since the start of this cultural decade, with the rise of the gay marriage movement and the expansion of online communication, I was optimistic that society was building the framework that would finally allow somebody as eccentric as myself to find romance and friendship without a hassle. Instead, I've been devastated to see my fellow lesbians celebrating the triumphs of the LGBT movements, yet not see any results in my personal life whatsoever; I continue to feel like an outsider within the lesbian community, which is incredibly conformist yet necessary for me to explore just to find a partner. Meanwhile, SJW's are constantly complaining about how men treat women as objects, yet I personally can't win the affection of other women even as a completely love-oriented (not sex-oriented) woman, while the majority of women my age still have boyfriends regardless. It all feels like a labyrinth of hypocrisy, of empty promises for greater opportunity when really life only continues to grow shallower and lonelier by the day.

I think this all, at least, partially fuels my hatred of the mid-2010s. Seeing things from this cultural era immediately brings images to my mind of how manipulative, alienating, deceptive, and superficial society has become and how hopeless everything feels for an individual like myself. Just seeing a side-buzz haircut on a guy, a modern-day romantic couple, or people taking selfies is enough to make my stomach crawl. It's hard for me to even expose myself to mainstream popular culture, which is why I spend so much of my time in my own world, listening to music mostly from 1982-2003, playing The Sims 2 (with families I can relate to), watching The Twilight Zone, or, of course, posting here. Back during the cultural early 2010s, especially summer 2009 through spring 2011 in particular, I wanted to be a part of the world, I wanted to meet other people, I embraced much of the popular culture that was coming out. I still didn't really have that many friends in real life, but I was still in a much happier place regardless. Everything has just gone downhill since then, as I've seen more the hypocrisy of current-generation progressivism, the stagnation of creativity, and the seeming impossibility of me ever finding my dreamy dame.


Have you thought about volunteering at a Pride Parade? I'm thinking about volunteering this summer, it will be my first time going. I think you'll find more open-minded people there. It sucks enough that you have to experience transphobia from non-LGBT cis genders, but no one talks about transphobia within the LGBT community. :( From what I've heard the atmosphere there is very social and friendly, similar to an orientation week at university.

Have you thought about volunteering at a Pride Parade? I'm thinking about volunteering this summer, it will be my first time going. I think you'll find more open-minded people there. It sucks enough that you have to experience transphobia from non-LGBT cis genders, but no one talks about transphobia within the LGBT community. :( From what I've heard the atmosphere there is very social and friendly, similar to an orientation week at university.


Honestly, pride events epitomize everything alienating to me about the LGBT community. It feels like they do more to pigeonhole the stereotypes of gays and lesbians than to truly embrace every single individual, regardless of how he/she identifies. There's definitely a supposed theme of diversity, but it's still a very mainstream definition of diversity, one which I don't identify with AT ALL.

Honestly, pride events epitomize everything alienating to me about the LGBT community. It feels like they do more to pigeonhole the stereotypes of gays and lesbians than to truly embrace every single individual, regardless of how he/she identifies. There's definitely a supposed theme of diversity, but it's still a very mainstream definition of diversity, one which I don't identify with AT ALL.


Yes, they can be very stereotypical.

Honestly, pride events epitomize everything alienating to me about the LGBT community. It feels like they do more to pigeonhole the stereotypes of gays and lesbians than to truly embrace every single individual, regardless of how he/she identifies. There's definitely a supposed theme of diversity, but it's still a very mainstream definition of diversity, one which I don't identify with AT ALL.


Hmm, I will try to attend my first in person and see how I feel about it. However, I did catch a glimpse of it in 2013 when Toronto was hosting the World Pride Parade (I got caught in the traffic winding around it), I saw many groups and a lot of floats each with a different theme. I mean, yeah there were the big events like the Dyke Run and the trans march, but I also saw more "sub-culture"-type groups like "Bears for Mulcair" (he's a hairy chubby politician), and as you probably know, bears are gay guys who really embrace society's cartoonish view of masculinity.

Hmm, I will try to attend my first in person and see how I feel about it. However, I did catch a glimpse of it in 2013 when Toronto was hosting the World Pride Parade (I got caught in the traffic winding around it), I saw many groups and a lot of floats each with a different theme. I mean, yeah there were the big events like the Dyke Run and the trans march, but I also saw more "sub-culture"-type groups like "Bears for Mulcair" (he's a hairy chubby politician), and as you probably know, bears are gay guys who really embrace society's cartoonish view of masculinity.


I will probably go to a pride parade one day just to stare at guys I find attractive.  ;D  ;D

I will probably go to a pride parade one day just to stare at guys I find attractive.  ;D  ;D


That would make me feel insecure.  ;D I have to be the crème de la crème wherever I go. >:(

That would make me feel insecure.  ;D I have to be the crème de la crème wherever I go. >:(


Cream of the crypt? No, just kidding. I get what you mean.

I wasn't actually in school anymore by 2005-2006, but I can say that that time period was similar to the 1989-1990 school year (my 5th grade year). Both of those years I was feeling very awkward and was constantly getting bullied. It was mainly feeling down and depressed, and didn't feel as fun and simple as the 2004-2005 or the 1988-1989 school years. The positives I remember about the 2005-2006 school year are the video games, mainly the Nintendo DS. Music wasn't that great during this time though, with stupid songs like "Laffy Taffy".

I wasn't actually in school anymore by 2005-2006, but I can say that that time period was similar to the 1989-1990 school year (my 5th grade year). Both of those years I was feeling very awkward and was constantly getting bullied. It was mainly feeling down and depressed, and didn't feel as fun and simple as the 2004-2005 or the 1988-1989 school years. The positives I remember about the 2005-2006 school year are the video games, mainly the Nintendo DS. Music wasn't that great during this time though, with stupid songs like "Laffy Taffy".

I have a question so if you think 1985-1988 was like 2001-2004, do you think that 1997-2000 was similar to 1981-1984?

I have a question so if you think 1985-1988 was like 2001-2004, do you think that 1997-2000 was similar to 1981-1984?


Yes, I did notice the similarities. There was some early 80's nostalgia in the late 90's, especially with songs like P. Diddy's "I'll Be Missing You". Also the Euro-based sound was very popular, and it was a new pop era. Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera of 1999/2000 were the equivalent of Madonna and Cindy Lauper of 1983/84.

On that note I also think that 2013-2016 is similar to 1997-2000. This is a new teen pop era with the likes of Justin Bieber, One Direction, Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, etc. There's also a lot of good R&B, which has the similar sound to the late 90's/Y2K era neo soul. Even some of the same artists from back then have been dropping albums recently, such as Jon B and Brian McKnight.

On that note I also think that 2013-2016 is similar to 1997-2000. This is a new teen pop era with the likes of Justin Bieber, One Direction, Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, etc. There's also a lot of good R&B, which has the similar sound to the late 90's/Y2K era neo soul. Even some of the same artists from back then have been dropping albums recently, such as Jon B and Brian McKnight.


Ironically the last years in those 4 years stretches, 2000 and 2016 are/were election years for a brand new president.

Ironically the last years in those 4 years stretches, 2000 and 2016 are/were election years for a brand new president.


Actually, it's not ironic. In fact, the presidential elections are the main reason for the similar patterns, since it is a major influence of the culture. This is especially the case during the last few decades since we have been having two term presidents (8 years) and they alternate between Democrat and Republican. When Obama got elected in 2008 during dark economic times, it really reminded me of when Clinton got elected in 1992 when the economy was also bad. Also the 2012 elections were similar to 1996, the re-eclections of Obama and Clinton respectively. I was off by my prediction of Jeb Bush getting elected this year after a recount in Florida to repeat what happened in 2000. I sure hope it's not Trump that gets elected this year. Things will go downhill fast in 2017 (much like how 2001 went downhill when G.W. Bush took office). Hillary won't be any better. Anyhow, 2016 is the last year for Obama just as 2000 was the last year for Clinton, and it could be the last "normal" year before things change the following years (and not for the better).

Actually, it's not ironic. In fact, the presidential elections are the main reason for the similar patterns, since it is a major influence of the culture. This is especially the case during the last few decades since we have been having two term presidents (8 years) and they alternate between Democrat and Republican. When Obama got elected in 2008 during dark economic times, it really reminded me of when Clinton got elected in 1992 when the economy was also bad. Also the 2012 elections were similar to 1996, the re-eclections of Obama and Clinton respectively. I was off by my prediction of Jeb Bush getting elected this year after a recount in Florida to repeat what happened in 2000. I sure hope it's not Trump that gets elected this year. Things will go downhill fast in 2017 (much like how 2001 went downhill when G.W. Bush took office). Hillary won't be any better. Anyhow, 2016 is the last year for Obama just as 2000 was the last year for Clinton, and it could be the last "normal" year before things change the following years (and not for the better).


What you're saying was my point. That's why I always say that the same school years brand new presidents get elected and inaugurated have historically been transitional years for the mainstream pop culture, not just politically. For example, 1992-1993 being the transition from early 90's to mid 90's, 2000-2001 being the transition from late 90's to early 2000's, or 2008-2009 being the transition from late 2000's to early 2010's. It seems to always happen unexpectedly at these specific time periods. As for reelections, it happens sometimes but not every time. 1996-1997 is considered as the transition from mid 90's to late 90's, which is when Clinton was reelected. 2012-2013 was the transition from early 2010's to mid 2010's when Obama was reelected. However, that wasn't the case with Bush's presidency, by the time Bush was reelected in 2004 the transition into the mid 2000's was already complete. 

Yes, I did notice the similarities. There was some early 80's nostalgia in the late 90's, especially with songs like P. Diddy's "I'll Be Missing You". Also the Euro-based sound was very popular, and it was a new pop era. Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera of 1999/2000 were the equivalent of Madonna and Cindy Lauper of 1983/84.

On that note I also think that 2013-2016 is similar to 1997-2000. This is a new teen pop era with the likes of Justin Bieber, One Direction, Ariana Grande, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, etc. There's also a lot of good R&B, which has the similar sound to the late 90's/Y2K era neo soul. Even some of the same artists from back then have been dropping albums recently, such as Jon B and Brian McKnight.

I see what you sayin. The mid 2010s kinda feel like a MUCH darker version of the late 90s and very early 00s.

I loved this school year.