As the title says

By the time Wii/PS3 came out. November 2006.

The vibe? That would be 2007 for sure.

By the time Wii/PS3 came out. November 2006.


I will have to say around early mid 2007, Now I will say when Nov 2006 hit it did feel like new things were coming
but I will have to say the mid 2000s vibe was still present.

The vibe? That would be 2007 for sure.


Yeah I was thinking around mid 2007

Late 2007.

When the Big Bang Theory and the iPhone came out, being a nerd suddenly became "cool", and people started flooding the Internet via social media. Nowadays, we mostly have SJW wars, clickbait garbage, and unfunny phrases like "I like pizzzaaaa" and "Netflix and chill".

I will have to say around early mid 2007, Now I will say when Nov 2006 hit it did feel like new things were coming
but I will have to say the mid 2000s vibe was still present.


The hype for PS3/Wii was already present in Summer of '06 though. By the time they came out everyone went crazy.

Also by late '06, HDTVs were somewhat normal to have in your house. HDTVs were probably the hottest buy of Holiday Season 2006.

Late 2007.

When the Big Bang Theory and the iPhone came out, being a nerd suddenly became "cool", and people started flooding the Internet via social media. Nowadays, we mostly have SJW wars, clickbait garbage, and unfunny phrases like "I like pizzzaaaa" and "Netflix and chill".


Being a nerd wouldn't be cooler until much later. Maybe late 2008/early 2009.

source: was bullied for being a 'nerd' (and also gay) until 2009-10 school year.

The hype for PS3/Wii was already present in Summer of '06 though. By the time they came out everyone went crazy.

Also by late '06, HDTVs were somewhat normal to have in your house. HDTVs were probably the hottest buy of Holiday Season 2006.


Are you talking about all the IGN hype about the boomerang ps3 yeah, hmmm, well about HDTVs the first time I ever saw one in somebodys house was June 2006,

Back to what you said about ps3 and wii I do not remember people being as hyped for wii, I remember playing ATV off road fury demo and was WOWed instantly

Are you talking about all the IGN hype about the boomerang ps3 yeah, hmmm, well about HDTVs the first time I ever saw one in somebodys house was June 2006,

Back to what you said about ps3 and wii I do not remember people being as hyped for wii, I remember playing ATV off road fury demo and was WOWed instantly


I remember when they announced that the name of the console would be "Wii", they got the whole world talking.  ;D "Wii? As in wee wee? What a lame name!". But the important thing was that everyone was talking about it.

The Wii sold crazy holiday season, so there was plenty of hype for it. (especially from me!) Motion controls sounded really futuristic.

I remember when they announced that the name of the console would be "Wii", they got the whole world talking.  ;D "Wii? As in wee wee? What a lame name!". But the important thing was that everyone was talking about it.

The Wii sold crazy holiday season, so there was plenty of hype for it. Motion controls sounded really futuristic.


Sonic 2006 debuted around this time boy that game fudgeing sucked

Sonic 2006 debuted around this time boy that game fudgeing sucked


Is that the one where the girl actually kisses Sonic on the lips?  8-P

Furry fan service should be illegal.

The hype for PS3/Wii was already present in Summer of '06 though. By the time they came out everyone went crazy.

Also by late '06, HDTVs were somewhat normal to have in your house. HDTVs were probably the hottest buy of Holiday Season 2006.


In 2006 people were hyped for 7th generation games but overall it was still a 6th generation gaming year, the last one. Also, I disagree with your opinion on HD-TV's. It wasn't until 2008/2009 when HD-TV's started becoming the norm in our culture. 2007 felt like the last full year standard definition was the most dominant.

In 2006 people were hyped for 7th generation games but overall it was still a 6th generation gaming year, the last one. Also, I disagree with your opinion on HD-TV's. It wasn't until 2008/2009 when HD-TV's started becoming the norm in our culture. 2007 felt like the last full year standard definition was the most dominant.


I saw Hd tvs in peoples houses in 2006, but the whole HD becoming the norm would not hit until 2008 2009 like you have stated.
2006 for the most part was a ps2/xbox/gamecube  dominated year,  with PSp and DS taking up the handheld market  and Xbox 360 being the exception

In 2006 people were hyped for 7th generation games but overall it was still a 6th generation gaming year, the last one. Also, I disagree with your opinion on HD-TV's. It wasn't until 2008/2009 when HD-TV's started becoming the norm in our culture. 2007 felt like the last full year standard definition was the most dominant.


It was a mix of 6th/7th. The DS was the most dominant console of the year, especially with the release of best sellers like Nintendogs, Brain Training, Mario Kart DS, New Super Mario Bros. and of course Pokémon Diamond/Pearl.  Animal Crossing also made massive sales in Europe and Japan. It was also when DS Lite released, which would put the DS on trajectory to become the best selling system of all time.

The PSP was also popular, but for piracy reasons.

Gears of War also released for the Xbox 360, that game was huge. Let's also not forget Wii Sports and Twilight Princess.

I agree, HDTV didn't become dominant until 2008. But in 2006 they were somewhat common, especially among wealthier families.

edit: my bad, Pokémon Diamond released 2007 in the West.

It was a mix of 6th/7th. The DS was the most dominant console of the year, especially with the release of best sellers like Nintendogs, Brain Training, Mario Kart DS, New Super Mario Bros. and of course Pokémon Diamond/Pearl.  Animal Crossing also made massive sales in Europe and Japan. It was also when DS Lite released, which would put the DS on trajectory to become the best selling system of all time.

The PSP was also popular, but for piracy reasons.

Gears of War also released for the Xbox 360, that game was huge. Let's also not forget Wii Sports and Twilight Princess.

I agree, HDTV didn't become dominant until 2008. But in 2006 they were somewhat common, especially among wealthier families.

edit: my bad, Pokémon Diamond released 2007 in the West.


my psp was only for internet aha

my psp was only for internet aha


"For Internet", eh?  ;)

By late 2006 my friends only 'played' their PSPs on the school toilets.

"For Internet", eh?  ;)

By late 2006 my friends only 'played' their PSPs on the school toilets.


no viruses lol

Probably around the late '00s (say around 2007-2008). By the late '00s/early '10s a lot of the things that were popular in 2004-2006 was either dying out or beginning to change into a new form by around 2008-2010. Fashion, Music, Gams, TV, Celebrities, Cultural overall was beginning to look different.

2008 maybe? I dunno, even 2008 and 2009 still felt pretty connected to the mid 2000's.

no viruses lol


Uhh...
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You kids and your electronic devices...

2008 maybe? I dunno, even 2008 and 2009 still felt pretty connected to the mid 2000's.


When do you think the connection to the core '00s was broken?

When do you think the connection to the core '00s was broken?

first few months of 2007 

When do you think the connection to the core '00s was broken?


It's hard to say. Gradually between 2008-2012, maybe. Hipsters define the 10's and I don't really remember the hipster super social justice culture and fashion being anything more than an occasional thing until late 2012-2013. So maybe around then.

first few months of 2007


2007? I can understand how 2007 can be seen as where the differences began to take form. With the release of smartphones (although it won't be popular by around 2010 onward), rise in social media, and other cultural things. I was thinking maybe 2008  mostly since from what I experienced the year 2007 didn't feel much different than 2006 for me (but this is just probably just a personal experience).

It's hard to say. Gradually between 2008-2012, maybe. Hipsters define the 10's and I don't really remember the hipster super social justice culture and fashion being anything more than an occasional thing until late 2012-2013. So maybe around then.

Yeah, those are things of the '10s that I don't remember even seeing back in the '00s (heck even late '00s to some degree). But hey it's different for everyone.

As mentioned before I thought the change started sometime between 2007 - 2008. Kind of hard for me to figure out the exact timing for some reason.

Yeah, those are things of the '10s that I don't remember even seeing back in the '00s (heck even late '00s to some degree). But hey it's different for everyone.

As mentioned before I thought the change started sometime between 2007 - 2008. Kind of hard for me to figure out the exact timing for some reason.


I saw the style once or twice but I don't remember it being really common until 2012 or 2013. Funny thing is, back in the mid to late 00's, people called those scene/faux-emo kids hipsters.

Me too. Even 2008 and 2009 still feel pretty 2000's.

Oh, are we talking about when the mid-2000s ended, or when its last holdovers died out?

Because if we're asking the latter, I'm not sure if there's a definitive answer. The late 2000s in general to me feel like the mid-2000s on tech steroids. The mid-2000s "evolved" into the late 2000s, rather than fading away and giving rise to a different beast. ;D

The Office stopped airing 2013, maybe that would answer that. Arrested Development also stopped airing that year. Smallville also stopped airing 2011. However, How I Met Your Mother kept airing till 2014.

Oh, are we talking about when the mid-2000s ended, or when its last holdovers died out?

Because if we're asking the latter, I'm not sure if there's a definitive answer. The late 2000s in general to me feel like the mid-2000s on tech steroids. The mid-2000s "evolved" into the late 2000s, rather than fading away and giving rise to a different beast. ;D

The Office stopped airing 2013, maybe that would answer that. Arrested Development also stopped airing that year. Smallville also stopped airing 2011. However, How I Met Your Mother kept airing till 2014.


You what did fade away though? Like, was totally eradicated from existence? The best part of the decade (early 00's)! >:( The 2000's could of been the 90's 2.0 if we stayed in 2000-2002!

I think we're discussing when the holdover's died out. I dunno, when it comes to rock music today, I think we're stuck in 2004/2005.

Going by personal memories the vibe begun to fade in late 2006 when the late 2000s culture started.
Yes, Late 2006-mid 2008 were the main late 2000s, but anything that was mid 00s like was GONE by summer time of 2008.

Going by personal memories the vibe begun to fade in late 2006 when the late 2000s culture started.
Yes, Late 2006-mid 2008 were the main late 2000s, but anything that was mid 00s like was GONE by summer time of 2008.


Could you please elaborate on why late 2006 is when the mids 2000s had faded for you?

Could you please elaborate on why late 2006 is when the mids 2000s had faded for you?

Hannah Montana becoming popular, PS3 and Wii were released, Monday Night Football was on ESPN; Dexter, Prison Break, Heroes, 30 Rock, Friday Night Lights premiered. CW took over from WB, WWE RAW and Smackdown changed their logos, Roger Godell was now NFL commissioner, Sunday Night Football premiered, Music started to become more pop sounding, Blu Rays started coming out, Katie Couric and Charles Gibson were now the new weekday anchors after Dan Rather's stepping down and Peter Jennings death. A lot of things just felt too different. I could tell it wasn't the mid 2000s anymore.

Hannah Montana becoming popular, PS3 and Wii were released, Monday Night Football was on ESPN; Dexter, Prison Break, Heroes, 30 Rock, Friday Night Lights premiered. CW took over from WB, WWE RAW and Smackdown changed their logos, Roger Godell was now NFL commissioner, Sunday Night Football premiered, Music started to become more pop sounding, Blu Rays started coming out, Katie Couric and Charles Gibson were now the new weekday anchors after Dan Rather's stepping down and Peter Jennings death. A lot of things just felt too different. I could tell it wasn't the mid 2000s anymore.


I love Sunday Night Football. I'm pretty sure Monday Night Football moving from ABC to ESPN was bittersweet for many people, but Roger Godell sucks and he still does. I love how everybody boos him during the NFL draft each year.

based on what I remember, I'd say by 2008 it didn't feel like the mid 00's anymore, and the 00's pop culture era as a whole was on the way out by 2009, which saw the rise of gaga-mania and electro-pop.

Late 2006 into early 2007.

To me, the mid 2000s faded out once The Sopranos ended in June of 2007. It was also during the summer of 2007 where I discovered YouTube.

To me, the mid 2000s faded out once The Sopranos ended in June of 2007. It was also during the summer of 2007 where I discovered YouTube.


YouTube was already popular by the time Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne came out in February 2007. That was the first video to hit 100 million views (such a monumental achievement!). But I remember using YouTube early 2006 personally. :P

Oh, and "You" through a YouTube video won Time Person of the Year award in 2006. Interesting. I thought bogus NYT POTY nominations only started with that "Protestor" thing in 2011.

YouTube was already popular by the time Girlfriend by Avril Lavigne came out in February 2007. That was the first video to hit 100 million views (such a monumental achievement!). But I remember using YouTube early 2006 personally. :P

Oh, and "You" through a YouTube video won Time Person of the Year award in 2006. Interesting. I thought bogus NYT POTY nominations only started with that "Protestor" thing in 2011.


But from my own personal experiences, I discovered YouTube around mid 2007. But I can get that it was starting to get popular around early 2007.

Right after 2006 haha I can't see how people are stating as far as 2008. The mid and late 2000s had separate vibes. Especially since 2004 is grouped with the mid 2000s. I remember 2007-2008 feeling so late 2000s. Cultural changes plays a role but its the music sounds that blend with the atmosphere and change the vibe every few years alone.

Right after 2006 haha I can't see how people are stating as far as 2008. The mid and late 2000s had separate vibes. Especially since 2004 is grouped with the mid 2000s. I remember 2007-2008 feeling so late 2000s. Cultural changes plays a role but its the music sounds that blend with the atmosphere and change the vibe every few years alone.


I always felt like the late 2000's built off the trends off of the mid 2000's making both eras feel more connected to each other (while acting like the early 2000's didn't exist >:().

I always felt like the late 2000's built off the trends off of the mid 2000's making both eras feel more connected to each other (while acting like the early 2000's didn't exist >:().


Dude, it's not like every decade has to relate in every era.

Dude, it's not like every decade has to relate in every era.


It would have been rad if the Y2K era spread through the entire decade though. It deserves to live longer than the 4-5 years it did.  :(

I wish I was old enough to experience early 2000s music as it was coming out. >_<

Dude, it's not like every decade has to relate in every era.


I don't know how you got that from what I said. :P I said I wish that the mid to late 00's didn't completely forget about the 1998-2002 era. I think the 80's are the most recent decade to relate all the way though.


It would have been rad if the Y2K era spread through the entire decade though. It deserves to live longer than the 4-5 years it did.  :(

I wish I was old enough to experience early 2000s music as it was coming out. >_<


I agree but it's short time span certainly makes 1998-2002/2003 feel more special. Still, it would of been totally rad if things still felt like that in 2004-2009.

Man, what good times those were. :P

I don't know how you got that from what I said. :P I said I wish that the mid to late 00's didn't completely forget about the 1998-2002 era. I think the 80's are the most recent decade to relate all the way though.

I agree but it's short time span certainly makes 1998-2002/2003 feel more special. Still, it would of been totally rad if things still felt like that in 2004-2009.

Man, what good times those were. :P


I still laugh at the fact that the 1980s is the latest decade to have a consistent feel all the way through. The late 1990s relates more to the early 2000s than it those the early-mid 1990s. And the mid-late 2000s can be seen as seperate from the early 2000s. The only thing that lets you know that some of these eras are part of the same decade is their year number, but it's obvious that the culture between these 2 decades isn't defined by year numbers. 1990-1992, 1993-1997, 1998-2003, 2004-2007/8, 2008-2012, 2013-2016. 1990s-2010s are split up into tiny little eras. Some of these little eras relate better with some than others (for example the early-mid '90s to me relate better than they do with the late '90s. Same for the Early '00s when in comparison to the mid-late 2000s).  But from 1980-1989 you could just sit there and say "Yep, all of that is undeniably '80s".

I still laugh at the fact that the 1980s is the latest decade to have a consistent feel all the way through. The late 1990s relates more to the early 2000s than it those the early-mid 1990s. And the mid-late 2000s can be seen as seperate from the early 2000s. The only thing that lets you know that some of these eras are part of the same decade is their year number, but it's obvious that the culture between these 2 decades isn't defined by year numbers. 1990-1992, 1993-1997, 1998-2003, 2004-2007/8, 2008-2012, 2013-2016. 1990s-2010s are split up into tiny little eras. Some of these little eras relate better with some than others (for example the early-mid '90s to me relate better than they do with the late '90s. Same for the Early '00s when in comparison to the mid-late 2000s).  But from 1980-1989 you could just sit there and say "Yep, all of that is undeniably '80s".


Basically said what I was thinking, man! Even stuff from 1988 and 1989 (hell, I'd add 1990-1992 in there too) feel undoubtedly 80's to me. It's funny because even the early 00's relate more to the mid 90's than they do to the mid 00's. I've noticed there was still quite a bit of mid 90's leftovers throughout 1998-2003 despite being mostly Y2K. Compared to their own decade, the early 2000's are totally out of place. I'd say today is kind of like the early-mid 90's since it still relates with the 2008-2012 period.

Mid 2008

I still laugh at the fact that the 1980s is the latest decade to have a consistent feel all the way through. The late 1990s relates more to the early 2000s than it those the early-mid 1990s. And the mid-late 2000s can be seen as seperate from the early 2000s. The only thing that lets you know that some of these eras are part of the same decade is their year number, but it's obvious that the culture between these 2 decades isn't defined by year numbers. 1990-1992, 1993-1997, 1998-2003, 2004-2007/8, 2008-2012, 2013-2016. 1990s-2010s are split up into tiny little eras. Some of these little eras relate better with some than others (for example the early-mid '90s to me relate better than they do with the late '90s. Same for the Early '00s when in comparison to the mid-late 2000s).  But from 1980-1989 you could just sit there and say "Yep, all of that is undeniably '80s".


2010s feels pretty consistent to me, 2009-2016. Technology wise, there's something new out every year, but if I wore 2009 clothes outside, played 2009 music at a party, and tried to be 2009 as possible with the exception of tech, it would not stand out at all. Only thing that would stand out is if I had a Blackberry and netbook on Windows XP.  ;D Still feels pretty recent though.

I still go outside and dress like I did in high school sometimes. Aeropostale red hoodie, scandalous V-neck t-shirt with sarcastic comment, skin-tight skinny jeans, neon green/purple basketball shoes. I don't really stand out I don't think.

If I dressed like in 2007-08 and started blasting emo music though... that might turn a few heads.

It would have been rad if the Y2K era spread through the entire decade though. It deserves to live longer than the 4-5 years it did.  :(

I wish I was old enough to experience early 2000s music as it was coming out. >_<


Okay...

I don't know how you got that from what I said. :P I said I wish that the mid to late 00's didn't completely forget about the 1998-2002 era. I think the 80's are the most recent decade to relate all the way though.


The mid 2000s had some relations with the early 2000s. IDK how you think it's disastrous to think that they're not related.

The mid 2000s had some relations with the early 2000s. IDK how you think it's disastrous to think that they're not related.

It's true. Change happens gradually. I don't know why some people think there's no way early 2000s and mid 2000s are related. That's all decadology junk I think.

2010s feels pretty consistent to me, 2009-2016. Technology wise, there's something new out every year, but if I wore 2009 clothes outside, played 2009 music at a party, and tried to be 2009 as possible with the exception of tech, it would not stand out at all. Only thing that would stand out is if I had a Blackberry and netbook on Windows XP.  ;D Still feels pretty recent though.

I still go outside and dress like I did in high school sometimes. Aeropostale red hoodie, scandalous V-neck t-shirt with sarcastic comment, skin-tight skinny jeans, neon green/purple basketball shoes. I don't really stand out I don't think.

If I dressed like in 2007-08 and started blasting emo music though... that might turn a few heads.


Windows XP has been outdated since 2014, and it was more related towards 2002-early 2009. Mid 2009 was when people started to use Windows 7, since it was better than Vista. After that, it was the decline for XP until it was discontinued in the aforementioned year.

It's true. Change happens gradually. I don't know why some people think there's no way early 2000s and mid 2000s are related. That's all decadology junk I think.


Because that's when entertainment started to evolve from the Y2K era. Granted, I disagree with those people since the Y2K era is related to the mid 2000s. Hell, even some stuff released in 1999-2003 kept going on either reruns, new episodes and/or sequels, TV and movie wise.

Windows XP has been outdated since 2014, and it was more related towards 2002-early 2009. Mid 2009 was when people started to use Windows 7, since it was better than Vista. After that, it was the decline for XP until it was discontinued in the aforementioned year.


Yeah, I know. That's why I described a netbook running Windows XP as old :P

Yeah, I know. That's why I described a netbook running Windows XP as old :P


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Because that's when entertainment started to evolve from the Y2K era. Granted, I disagree with those people since the Y2K era is related to the mid 2000s. Hell, even some stuff released in 1999-2003 kept going on either reruns, new episodes and/or sequels, TV and movie wise.


That is true, there is some link. Like emo is basically the pop-punk bands of the early 2000s going for harder and sadder tunes.

But for the most part, most Y2K era shows started airing 1996-1998, and stopped airing 2002-2004.

But for the most part, most Y2K era shows started airing 1996-1998, and stopped airing 2002-2004.


I thought the Y2K era was 1998-2002. So, if there were shows that aired during that time (e.g. Malcolm In The Middle, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Sex and the City), then most of them ended around 2004-early 2007.

I thought the Y2K era was 1998-2002. So, if there were shows that aired during that time (e.g. Malcolm In The Middle, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Sex and the City), then most of them ended around 2004-early 2007.


Oh yeah, 1998 was when Y2K was in full swing, but you get the earliest roots of it around 1995-1997. I didn't watch the adult shows so I can't comment too much on that. X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Sabrina The Teenage Witch, Friends, Charmed, Everybody Loves Raymond, Fraisier, Just Shoot Me, Becker are some of the Y2K era adult shows I caught on rerun in the summer of 2004 (when I started watching adult shows). Out of the ones you listed, Sex and the City comes off as Y2K era because I remember seeing ads for it. The other two, with the exception of Six Feet Under, also look like they could fit in with the other Y2K era shows.

Oh yeah, 1998 was when Y2K was in full swing, but you get the earliest roots of it around 1995-1997. I didn't watch the adult shows so I can't comment too much on that. X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Sabrina The Teenage Witch, Friends, Charmed, Everybody Loves Raymond, Fraisier, Just Shoot Me, Becker are some of the Y2K era adult shows I caught on rerun in the summer of 2004 (when I started watching adult shows). Out of the ones you listed, Sex and the City comes off as Y2K era because I remember seeing ads for it. The other two, with the exception of Six Feet Under, also look like they could fit in with the other Y2K era shows.


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It's true. Change happens gradually. I don't know why some people think there's no way early 2000s and mid 2000s are related. That's all decadology junk I think.

Sometimes it DOESN'T happen gradually. It's not decadeology bro. The early 2000s were kinda different than the mid 2000s. Even though I think late 2001-mid 2006(cultural early-mid 2000s) could be seen as one time period!

Sometimes it DOESN'T happen gradually. It's not decadeology bro. The early 2000s were kinda different than the mid 2000s. Even though I think late 2001-mid 2006(cultural early-mid 2000s) could be seen as one time period!


Thank you!!! This explains it all!

Sometimes it DOESN'T happen gradually. It's not decadeology bro. The early 2000s were kinda different than the mid 2000s. Even though I think late 2001-mid 2006(cultural early-mid 2000s) could be seen as one time period!

Everything can be seen as one time period depending on the perspective.

Sometimes it DOESN'T happen gradually. It's not decadeology bro. The early 2000s were kinda different than the mid 2000s. Even though I think late 2001-mid 2006(cultural early-mid 2000s) could be seen as one time period!


I've always said 1993-2008 is one era.  Of course 1993 and 2008 were very different culturally, but over that period of time everything evolved slowly.  The mid 2000s weren't that far culturally from the early 2000s, and the early 2000s weren't that far from the late 90s.  There was a radical shift in culture in 1992 and again in 2009.  Between those shifts, things evolved slowly and organically.

The mid 2000s had some relations with the early 2000s. IDK how you think it's disastrous to think that they're not related.


Hardly. Things from the Y2K era had to evolve and change their formulas during the mid 00's to stay relevant.


Windows XP has been outdated since 2014, and it was more related towards 2002-early 2009. Mid 2009 was when people started to use Windows 7, since it was better than Vista. After that, it was the decline for XP until it was discontinued in the aforementioned year.


XP gained more popularity during 2003/2004. I remember most people having 98 or ME during 2000-2003.


That is true, there is some link. Like emo is basically the pop-punk bands of the early 2000s going for harder and sadder tunes.


Well, the Emo and Pop Punk bands of the time did change their styles in 2004 to be more mid-00's sounding. :P The music sounds very different to me. But if what you mean is "they're the same bands playing the new mid 2000's style" than I agree.


Oh yeah, 1998 was when Y2K was in full swing, but you get the earliest roots of it around 1995-1997.


I agree with you. I think you could split the mid 90's up like this:
1993-1994 - more like the early 90's with barely any Y2K hints if any at all
1995 - in the middle
1996-1997 - Y2K hints become more and more notable as the years progress

I really don't think there was a "Mid-2000's" vibe. That decade felt more like it could be split in two halves. You had the 2001-2004 era which was the immediate Post-9/11 aftermath, and the vibe was more patriotic and conservative. Then you had the 2005-2008 era in which people started to lose confidence in Bush and turn more liberal. The later era was also the rise in social media and rapidly advancing technology.

Sometimes it DOESN'T happen gradually. It's not decadeology bro. The early 2000s were kinda different than the mid 2000s. Even though I think late 2001-mid 2006(cultural early-mid 2000s) could be seen as one time period!

Actually it does change gradually. You don't wake up one morning to find out pop culture has changed entirely.

I've always said 1993-2008 is one era. Of course 1993 and 2008 were very different culturally, but over that period of time everything evolved slowly.  The mid 2000s weren't that far culturally from the early 2000s, and the early 2000s weren't that far from the late 90s.  There was a radical shift in culture in 1992 and again in 2009.  Between those shifts, things evolved slowly and organically.

Yep that's true Chris; 1993-2008, the CULTURAL 90s and 00s. :) Once again I don't mean to decadeologize. ;D

Actually it does change gradually. You don't wake up one morning to find out pop culture has changed entirely.

SIGH... I guess to each his own!

Hardly. Things from the Y2K era had to evolve and change their formulas during the mid 00's to stay relevant.

Okay...

XP gained more popularity during 2003/2004. I remember most people having 98 or ME during 2000-2003.


I'm saying XP was starting to rise around 2002 because that's the first full year when it became available. I can get that more people used 98, 2000, or ME back in the early 2000s, but that's when they started to decline.

I'm saying XP was starting to rise around 2002 because that's the first full year when it became available. I can get that more people used 98, 2000, or ME back in the early 2000s, but that's when they started to decline.


It was starting to rise but that came a bit later. I remember 98 and ME being much more common. There was a huge backlash against XP looking like a "fisher price toy" and it being inferior to 98 and ME. 2002 is the last year I remember new 98 computers being sold in stores and 2003 being the last for ME.

I'm saying XP was starting to rise around 2002 because that's the first full year when it became available. I can get that more people used 98, 2000, or ME back in the early 2000s, but that's when they started to decline.


Wait Windows 2000 and ME was declining in the early 2000s? They both were released to the general public in 2000. So it's funny to think that within just 2-3 years they were already declining.

Wait Windows 2000 and ME was declining in the early 2000s? They both were released to the general public in 2000. So it's funny to think that within just 2-3 years they were already declining.


Not really. They started declining in 2003 (late early 2000's I guess) but not 2002. Windows XP didn't become a huge popular thing that took over all the other Operating Systems right away.

Wait Windows 2000 and ME was declining in the early 2000s? They both were released to the general public in 2000. So it's funny to think that within just 2-3 years they were already declining.


Nah. I'm saying they started to decline in 2003. What JordanK1982 said.

2000 and ME weren't really relevant in the mid-2000s, but it's worth noting that Microsoft didn't discontinue them until 2005 and 2006, respectively.

2000 and ME weren't really relevant in the mid-2000s, but it's worth noting that Microsoft didn't discontinue them until 2005 and 2006, respectively.


Actually, Windows ME ended support on 2006, while 2000 ended support (on some versions) in 2010.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/search?sort=PN&alpha=Windows%202000&Filter=FilterNO

2000 and ME weren't really relevant in the mid-2000s, but it's worth noting that Microsoft didn't discontinue them until 2005 and 2006, respectively.


That's true. I don't remember seeing anything older than XP after 2004.

That's true. I don't remember seeing anything older than XP after 2004.


Some businesses still used 2000, but most had moved onto XP.  In the home, you pretty much had XP though there was still a lot of '98 in use at that time.

That's true. I don't remember seeing anything older than XP after 2004.


My middle school actually used until my class graduated in 2010 ;D

My middle school actually used until my class graduated in 2010 ;D


Windows 2000?

Or Windows XP? I still see some computers every now and then with XP, although it's exceedingly rare. It was definitely common in 2010. Windows Vista was ass and Windows 7 had only recently come out.

I was already using Windows XP by the start of 2002 lol.

However, most schools and businesses still used Windows 98 computers as late as 2007/08.

I was already using Windows XP by the start of 2002 lol.


You were super ahead of the times, dude. ;D

You were super ahead of the times, dude. ;D


It's funny, because I never knew all these people still had Windows 98 that long until I came on the internet or talked to friends in school. However, I will admit though the way the websites used to look in 2002 & 2003 looks very old school compared to today. Planet Motherf**kin Hot Wheels online baby!

It's funny, because I never knew all these people still had Windows 98 that long until I came on the internet or talked to friends in school. However, I will admit though the way the websites used to look in 2002 & 2003 looks very old school compared to today. Planet Motherf**kin Hot Wheels online baby!


Yeah, it's like most people, including myself, still had Windows 98 well into 2004. Same with you and broadband. You are your folks were ahead of the curb. :P They look old school compared to even 2005 or 2006. ;D You had Planet Hot Wheel and I had motherf*ckin' mp3.com! Super rad. 8)

Windows 2000?

Or Windows XP? I still see some computers every now and then with XP, although it's exceedingly rare. It was definitely common in 2010. Windows Vista was ass and Windows 7 had only recently come out.


No Windows 2000. My High School didn't update to Windows 7 until my sophomore year, up until then my H.S used XP

I started on Windows XP in 2002.

2010s feels pretty consistent to me, 2009-2016. Technology wise, there's something new out every year, but if I wore 2009 clothes outside, played 2009 music at a party, and tried to be 2009 as possible with the exception of tech, it would not stand out at all. Only thing that would stand out is if I had a Blackberry and netbook on Windows XP.  ;D Still feels pretty recent though.

I still go outside and dress like I did in high school sometimes. Aeropostale red hoodie, scandalous V-neck t-shirt with sarcastic comment, skin-tight skinny jeans, neon green/purple basketball shoes. I don't really stand out I don't think.

If I dressed like in 2007-08 and started blasting emo music though... that might turn a few heads.


It remains to be seen whether the late 2010s will be a shift from the early-mid 2010s (like the late 90s), or whether it will feel like a consistent progression (like the late 80s). But I sort of agree, that the early-mid 2010s feel more consistent.

It remains to be seen whether the late 2010s will be a shift from the early-mid 2010s (like the late 90s), or whether it will feel like a consistent progression (like the late 80s). But I sort of agree, that the early-mid 2010s feel more consistent.


It'll might be the same. The late 2010s will probably have some relations towards the mid 2010s.

It'll might be the same. The late 2010s will probably have some relations towards the mid 2010s.


Can you give some examples?

Can you give some examples?


We'll still have some Cartoon Network shows from the mid 2010s making new episodes, while we'll still have Adele making songs, I guess.

back on topic

I started on Windows XP in 2002.


You're another super early adapter. :P I didn't even know any stores or businesses that used XP until 2003 at the earliest but even that was rare until 2004.

You're another super early adapter. :P I didn't even know any stores or businesses that used XP until 2003 at the earliest but even that was rare until 2004.


xp was pretty popular as soon as it came out

xp was pretty popular as soon as it came out


It was somewhat popular but I don't remember too many people having it until much later. I'd hear about how it "looks like a fisher price toy" and is "inferior to 98 or ME". Windows XP was almost like the Windows 8 of it's time. The legacy it has today started around 2004/2005-ish and was solidified when Vista came out in 2006.

Vista came out in early 2007 (but some testers got it a few months early)

The core '00s vibe disappeared when a lot of late 00's trends/fads started to rise.

- The creation of mobile devices such as smartphones (although these won't be widely used until around 2010)
- Rise of Social Media (Sites such as Facebook and Twitter were really in their infancy in the mid '00s and didn't become well known until the late '00s)
- Popularity of Youtube (Again it started in the mid '00s, but I'm not sure how many people even remember hearing about Youtube back in 2005)
- High-Definition becoming the standard (In the mid '00s and before CRT Tvs with 480i resolution was the norm, but in the late '00s it was becoming more common to see HD Tvs and channels offering HD 720p such as Disney in 2007, Cartoon Network in 2007, or Youtube in 2008).
- Electropop (This is  popular genre that go big in the late '00s music wise)
- Fashion (The look of fashion was beginning to change again sometime between 2007-2009 from what wikipedia and other sites tell me)

I'm not the most knowledgeable on late '00s trends as during the time I wasn't paying much attention. So if anyone has anything to add or want to fill me in on something feel free to step up and help me out.

P.S. When thinking about TV it's amazing that since the '80s to mid '00s we've been using the same 480i. How funny. I wonder what took so long for HD 720p to become popular. Must've been pricing.

Vista came out in early 2007 (but some testers got it a few months early)


Oh, thanks! I always thought it was 2006. My point still stands that Vista was a strong contributor to XP's legacy.

Reading that Windows 7 only came out October 2009, it's not really surprising to me that Windows XP was in use until 2010/2011 in a lot of places.

Reading that Windows 7 only came out October 2009, it's not really surprising to me that Windows XP was in use until 2010/2011 in a lot of places.


It's like how 98 and ME were still in use well into 2002 and 2003 and not many business or home's had Windows XP. The only difference is during the time of Windows 7, it was a lot more common to upgrade your computers because people had become more digitally focused which meant seeing 7 around wasn't as rare. Same with 98 and ME being on shelves. I remember the first year or two of 8, people still went out and still bought Windows 7 at stores because it was a better OS.

You're another super early adapter. :P I didn't even know any stores or businesses that used XP until 2003 at the earliest but even that was rare until 2004.

Well actually Windows XP came out in 2001 and it really wasn't hard or expensive to get it. I saw a TV show in 2002 that was using Windows XP. Kinda like now Windows 10 isn't hard to upgrade to, but a lot of people still have Windows 7 and 8. Same case back then. It was just a matter of "when is the right time to upgrade?" rather than cost and availability.

Well actually Windows XP came out in 2001 and it really wasn't hard or expensive to get it. I saw a TV show in 2002 that was using Windows XP. Kinda like now Windows 10 isn't hard to upgrade to, but a lot of people still have Windows 7 and 8. Same case back then. It was just a matter of "when is the right time to upgrade?" rather than cost and availability.


Yeah, of course but I remember 98 and ME having a much bigger presence. XP was viewed as inferior to 98/ME and still had a negative reputation similar to what 8 had when it was first released thanks to it's layout which was view as a "fisher price kids toy". I still saw 98 and ME in stores in 2002/2003 and knew people who bought new 98/ME computers because they thought it was better than XP. Same with how they'd still buy 7 when 8 was released. Most business and stores I went too back then used 98/ME more than XP. I don't think I even saw a business with XP until 2004. I might of seen it earlier but I don't remember at the moment. It wasn't really until 2004-2005 that XP's reputation got better. Then the much worse Vista (8-P) came out and XP was viewed as this amazing OS.

Vista came out in early 2007 (but some testers got it a few months early)



I still have Windows Vista.

I still have Windows Vista.


But... It's awful! :o

But... It's awful! :o


He probably didn't have a OS CD for either 7, 8, or 10.

It was somewhat popular but I don't remember too many people having it until much later. I'd hear about how it "looks like a fisher price toy" and is "inferior to 98 or ME". Windows XP was almost like the Windows 8 of it's time. The legacy it has today started around 2004/2005-ish and was solidified when Vista came out in 2006.


I disagree with the comparison between Windows XP and Windows 8.  Windows 8/8.1 was never widely adopted and embraced in business circles.  Businesses and power users have still preferred Windows 7.  Windows XP on the other hand started to gain traction after SP1a was released and was solidified after SP2.  A better comparison for Windows 8 would be Windows Vista.

But... It's awful! :o


I think I have Windows 7. ???

Yeah, of course but I remember 98 and ME having a much bigger presence. XP was viewed as inferior to 98/ME and still had a negative reputation similar to what 8 had when it was first released thanks to it's layout which was view as a "fisher price kids toy". I still saw 98 and ME in stores in 2002/2003 and knew people who bought new 98/ME computers because they thought it was better than XP. Same with how they'd still buy 7 when 8 was released. Most business and stores I went too back then used 98/ME more than XP. I don't think I even saw a business with XP until 2004. I might of seen it earlier but I don't remember at the moment. It wasn't really until 2004-2005 that XP's reputation got better. Then the much worse Vista (8-P) came out and XP was viewed as this amazing OS.


ME was always reviled but a lot of home users, especially gamers stuck with 98SE until 2002 or 2003 and then embraced XP.  XP before SP1 was extremely vulnerable to viruses and malware and also lacked some of the multimedia compatibility that 98SE had.

I think I have Windows 7. ???

Yeah Howard you probably have windows 7 which looks similar to Windows vista. Nobody uses Vista anymore.

Yeah Howard you probably have windows 7 which looks similar to Windows vista. Nobody uses Vista anymore.


XP outlived Vista which is deliciously hillarious  ;D

XP outlived Vista which is deliciously hillarious  ;D


Windows Vista was like half XP and half 7 & up. It's probably the late 2000's cultural computer.

Windows Vista was like half XP and half 7 & up. It's probably the late 2000's cultural computer.


It was the late 2000s PC. Even though a lot of people used XP more than Vista back in '07 through '09.

I disagree with the comparison between Windows XP and Windows 8.  Windows 8/8.1 was never widely adopted and embraced in business circles.  Businesses and power users have still preferred Windows 7.  Windows XP on the other hand started to gain traction after SP1a was released and was solidified after SP2.  A better comparison for Windows 8 would be Windows Vista.



ME was always reviled but a lot of home users, especially gamers stuck with 98SE until 2002 or 2003 and then embraced XP.  XP before SP1 was extremely vulnerable to viruses and malware and also lacked some of the multimedia compatibility that 98SE had.


And SP1a and SP2 came out in 2003 and 2004, respectively, right? That's pretty much when I pinpointed the rise of XP. I should of been more specific and said pre-SP1a XP was more like Windows 8 reputation wise. Criticized for it's terrible design/layout, awful protection, slow run times, etc. I agree that 8 is more like Vista when considering it's entire lifespan but early XP, alone, wasn't received well. Yeah, ME wasn't always the most popular but I remember that people said good things about it just because of XP during 2001-2003. 98 was the king over ME during these times for sure, though. ME is still a better OS than Vista, though. :P


He probably didn't have a OS CD for either 7, 8, or 10.


Poor Howard. :\'(


I think I have Windows 7. ???


Oh, good. I sure hope so. Windows 7 is a great OS! It's my favorite recent one. 98 is the king of all Microsoft operating systems, though.


Yeah Howard you probably have windows 7 which looks similar to Windows vista. Nobody uses Vista anymore.


Vista is the Sega Saturn of Operating Systems! ;D

Oh, good. I sure hope so. Windows 7 is a great OS! It's my favorite recent one. 98 is the king of all Microsoft operating systems, though.

My Father was thinking about getting Windows 10 but then he told me to just keep Windows 7.

My Father was thinking about getting Windows 10 but then he told me to just keep Windows 7.


This is smart. Windows 7 is really good. It runs smoothly and never fails on ya'. 10 is better than 8 but still kinda weird.

This is smart. Windows 7 is really good. It runs smoothly and never fails on ya'. 10 is better than 8 but still kinda weird.


and it has Firefox.

and it has Firefox.


I like Firefox! Good browser. I remember when it used to be Netscape!

As the title says


2008.

I like Firefox! Good browser. I remember when it used to be Netscape!


I remember Netscape.

I remember Netscape.


Me too! Even in the 90's, it was much better than IE.

Me too! Even in the 90's, it was much better than IE.


http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/image/netscapeprototype/start.png

Me too! Even in the 90's, it was much better than IE.


Any browser can be better than Internet Explorer. Besides, IE is only good for downloading other browsers that are faster.

http://www.mozillazine.org/articles/image/netscapeprototype/start.png

Ahhh... Those were the days, my man!


Any browser can be better than Internet Explorer. Besides, IE is only good for downloading other browsers that are faster.


This is the right opinion to have. IE's only purpose is to download better browsers!

I used IE until 2005 with the thousand toolbars installed lol.

https://silverfenix7.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ie_toolbars.jpg

I used IE until 2005 with the thousand toolbars installed lol.

https://silverfenix7.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ie_toolbars.jpg


IE makes me barf! >:( 8-P

I love how it says "Get Firefox" in the picture, though. That's hilarious.

I used IE until 2005 with the thousand toolbars installed lol.

https://silverfenix7.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ie_toolbars.jpg


I remember using IE as a kid until 2007, when my parents got an iMac and their Dell broke. I'd tell you, that Mac was boring to use. I've used it for browsing YouTube and other sites. It was boring because I didn't get to download Shockwave or Wildtangent games that I used to play around 2005 to early 2007.

I remember using IE as a kid until 2007, when my parents got an iMac and their Dell broke. I'd tell you, that Mac was boring to use. I've used it for browsing YouTube and other sites. It was boring because I didn't get to download Shockwave or Wildtangent games that I used to play around 2005 to early 2007.


Oh my god I remember Shockwave  ;D

Did you play iSketch? I loved that game.

Oh my god I remember Shockwave  ;D

Did you play iSketch? I loved that game.


I don't think I've played iSketch.

Oh my god I remember Shockwave  ;D

Did you play iSketch? I loved that game.


This was the sheesh on Shockwave when we were younger.

FPRRSl_ICbg

This was the sheesh on Shockwave when we were younger.

FPRRSl_ICbg


That's what I'm talking about. I remember playing that game a lot when I was 5 and 6. There were also games such as Luxor, Snail Mail, Tumblebugs, Spongebob 3D Obstacle Odyssey, and Diner Dash that were the best games that I've played back then.

This was the sheesh on Shockwave when we were younger.


That game looks like a lot of fun! I see that you're obsessed with cars  ;D

That game looks like a lot of fun! I see that you're obsessed with cars  ;D


When I was younger I was obsessed with A LOT racing games  :-[, like basically from 2003-2006 75% of my video games were racing while the other 25% was platform, fighting, or shooting. However, by late 2006/early 2007 that started changing as I got into more variety. I did play Super Smash Bros. Melee, Grand Theft Auto III, Mario Party Advance, Super Mario Advance 2, Star Fox Assault, Crash Bandicoot Wrath of Cortex, and Call of Duty 2 when I was around 7-10 years old.

When I was younger I was obsessed with A LOT racing games  :-[, like basically from 2003-2006 75% of my video games were racing while the other 25% was platform, fighting, or shooting. However, by late 2006/early 2007 that started changing as I got into more variety. I did play Super Smash Bros. Melee, Grand Theft Auto III, Mario Party Advance, Super Mario Advance 2, Star Fox Assault, Crash Bandicoot Wrath of Cortex, and Call of Duty 2 when I was around 7-10 years old.


The PS2 had some great racing games like Need For Speed and Gran Turismo.

I used IE until 2005 with the thousand toolbars installed lol.

https://silverfenix7.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/ie_toolbars.jpg


What happened with all those toolbars?

Around  late March 2007

Mid 2008

I have changed my opinion drastically since I made this post 2 years ago. Now I think the mid 2000s vibe faded out in 2006.

I have changed my opinion drastically since I made this post 2 years ago. Now I think the mid 2000s vibe faded out in 2006.


2006?

Not because of the shift?


See for me around Feb-April 2007 things felt VERY different but the change was moving slowly, I think once the Iphone it was a wrap (despite people not adopting it until later) Around March of this school year Facebook started blowing up and I remember people were using Facebook & Myspace at the same time. By the time we got to 2008 the 2000s was ON THIN ICE, You could tell 2008 was going to be the last 2000s culture year (even without the changes that Nov)


But back on what you were saying about 2006, a lot of it depends on where you lived/any major change in school. Late 2006 for the most part felt like it was suppose to end the 2000s but it did not, the 2000s just stayed 2 more years and overstayed it's welcome. I was almost 100% positive 2006 was going to be the end. That 2006-2007 year was the finale of the mid 2000s no question about it.

2007 was a transition year.  I would say by fall 2007, the mid 2000s vibe was completely gone.

2007 was a transition year.  I would say by fall 2007, the mid 2000s vibe was completely gone.

2007 wasn't as transitional as 2006 or 2008 was. It was actually the peak late 2000s year kind of like how 2017 is the peak late 2010s year.

2007/2008 felt the same as the mid-2000s to me, just better technology and different fashion.

2007/2008 felt the same as the mid-2000s to me, just better technology and different fashion.

Kinda yes kinda no, is how I feel about that. The mid 2000s kinda flowed seamlessly into the late 2000s, while the early 2000s seemed to conclude abruptly by 2004 with all the 90s/early 2000s shows ending (Friends, Hey Arnold, Samurai Jack, Weekenders, Rugrats, Frasier, etc.) and style changes at that time, and then the mid 2000s took their place.

2007/2008 felt the same as the mid-2000s to me, just better technology and different fashion.

Yup, which is why it is part of the late 2000s and not the mid 2000s. The change in technology is what separates the two. And I would say it went up to around late 2008.

the early 2000s seemed to conclude abruptly by 2004 with all the 90s/early 2000s shows ending (Friends, Hey Arnold, Samurai Jack, Weekenders, Rugrats, Frasier, etc.) and style changes at that time, and then the mid 2000s took their place.

I would say the early 2000s concluded in early 2003, not 2004. 2003 was the start of the mid 2000s.