I was thinking just recently about everything that changed in the later portion of 2006,
no one really talks about this mini change that happened. What is everyone's thoughts
on the classic 2000s decade taking a change  (abeit it being a small shift)


Last Episode of Malcolm  in the Middle airs

http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/data/916/medium/Malcolm-in-the-Middle-7x22-Graduation-MITMVC-3.jpg


The WB changes to the CW

http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/International/usa/cw/cw_images/cw_prelaunch_promo_2006a.jpg

Last Episode of that 70s show airs

http://cdn5.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/scale_crop_768_433/2013/10/that_70s_show_cast_a_l.jpg


Sprint buys out NEXTEL


Sam Goody closes down

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7053/6781010128_07d8461b46.jpg


Ps3 and Wii start the new gen of gaming (Xbox360 gets a head start)

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Sony-Rep-We-Made-PS3-Kiosks-Freeze-Up-on-Purpose-2.jpg

I definitely noticed it.  I have always considered this shift you speak of the final nail in the coffin for 90s culture.  The shift from '90s to '00s was much more gradual than '00s to '10s.  While the late '90s zeitgeist was gone ca. 2002, some residual things held on until late 2006.  I consider the summer of 2006 to be the last summer of my adolescence (I was 20 that year but didn't feel much different from a teenager).  I consider that period from the fall of 2006 to the summer of 2008 to be the peak of '00s culture.

I definitely noticed it.  I have always considered this shift you speak of the final nail in the coffin for 90s culture.  The shift from '90s to '00s was much more gradual than '00s to '10s.  While the late '90s zeitgeist was gone ca. 2002, some residual things held on until late 2006.  I consider the summer of 2006 to be the last summer of my adolescence (I was 20 that year).  I consider that period from the fall of 2006 to the summer of 2008 to be the peak of '00s culture.


The shift wasnt as huge but you  noticed it, I did at the time of late 2006 and had this feeling of like things were changing we were entering a new era.
Nelly Furtardos new song Promiscuous Girl was on the air all summer & you could tell that was going to be the direction music was headed.  When PS3 came
out I was legit amazed. It had this demo of ATV, there were legit riots outside of best buy to cop one.  I was sad that Sam Goody was gone as it was a staple
of any kids 2000s mall experience.

The shift wasnt as huge but you  noticed it, I did at the time of late 2006 and had this feeling of like things were changing we were entering a new era.
Nelly Furtardos new song Promiscuous Girl was on the air all summer & you could tell that was going to be the direction music was headed.  When PS3 came
out I was legit amazed. It had this demo of ATV, there were legit riots outside of best buy to cop one.  I was sad that Sam Goody was gone as it was a staple
of any kids 2000s mall experience.


Yeah, I remember when my local Sam Goody closed.  Wherehouse Music and Camelot Music were soon to follow.  Suncoast Motion Picture shuttered also.  At the time it was a pretty big loss, as we had not fully entered the age of streaming and cloud media storage.  I believe piracy more than technology advancement contributed to the loss of those businesses in 2006 and 2007.  Otherwise they probably would have hung around until at least the recession.

Yeah, I remember when my local Sam Goody closed.  Wherehouse Music and Camelot Music were soon to follow.  Suncoast Motion Picture shuttered also.  At the time it was a pretty big loss, as we had not fully entered the age of streaming and cloud media storage.  I believe piracy more than technology advancement contributed to the loss of those businesses in 2006 and 2007.  Otherwise they probably would have hung around until at least the recession.


Yeah it was weird AF because all we really had was Limewire and the Itunes store. And lets be honest for a second, we only used Itunes store
for podcasts  (which also was a new thing in 2006)  In 2006 HD tvs were becoming the new norm. I miss suncoast I forgot to mention that.
Suncoast would have any VHS or DVD you needed from Dragon Ball lol Remember those orange brick VHS sets?

I found some video on youtube of Best Buy in 2006 when PS3 launched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzz0kFjJsE

Woah, awesome thread! I know Eazy-E-Man-1995 will be hyped all over this topic! So get ready! Anyways, everything you said is so true. Although to me the final nail in the coffin for late 90's influences/culture was by the time 2004 came along, but you're right that throughout 2006 it felt like we started entering a modern era and it no longer felt like classic 2000's, and pretty much all early 2000's influences were extinct by this point as well. This was the last full year of 6th generation gaming and the start of 7th generation gaming and online getting real big. Looking back at 2006 being 10 years old at the time, it was the best year of my personal life, that summer specifically due to trips to Savannah, GA, Disney World in Orlando, FL for a whole week, YMCA camp, and my first Family Reunion. Pop culturally though 2006 was a terrible year IMO with the stuff that came out at the time, shows that ended, few stores that got shutdown, and I remember it being so bland for movies. This was probably my least favorite year of the 2000's on a pop cultural standpoint. 2005 was 100000x miles better for that and it's not even close. Also, here's a couple of things that also ended/started in 2006 as well that I remember myself.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/09/mnflogo2011.jpg

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/m_wii_console.jpg

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PS3-New-590x330.jpg

Yeah it was weird AF because all we really had was Limewire and the Itunes store. And lets be honest for a second, we only used Itunes store
for podcasts  (which also was a new thing in 2006)  In 2006 HD tvs were becoming the new norm. I miss suncoast I forgot to mention that.
Suncoast would have any VHS or DVD you needed from Dragon Ball lol Remember those orange brick VHS sets?

I found some video on youtube of Best Buy in 2006 when PS3 launched


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzz0kFjJsE

I HATED the remastered DBZ sets!! they SUCKED!! >:(  It reminded of the Star Wars special editions!! YUCK! 8-P 8-P 8-P
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o5xN9qsLGoo/TsGVTGTTQaI/AAAAAAAAAfw/oN47DEZPQjA/s1600/Orange+Bricks.png

Yeah it was weird AF because all we really had was Limewire and the Itunes store. And lets be honest for a second, we only used Itunes store
for podcasts  (which also was a new thing in 2006)  In 2006 HD tvs were becoming the new norm. I miss suncoast I forgot to mention that.
Suncoast would have any VHS or DVD you needed from Dragon Ball lol Remember those orange brick VHS sets?

I found some video on youtube of Best Buy in 2006 when PS3 launched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMzz0kFjJsE

Ironically I still played my PS2 and XBOX in 2006 and even early 07. Even though we begun transitioning into the 7th gen with Wii and PS3's release.

Woah, awesome thread! I know Eazy-E-Man-1995 will be hyped all over this topic! So get ready! Anyways, everything you said is so true. Although to me the final nail in the coffin for late 90's influences/culture was by the time 2004 came along, but you're right that throughout 2006 it felt like we started entering a modern era and it no longer felt like classic 2000's, and pretty much all early 2000's influences were extinct by this point as well. This was the last full year of 6th generation gaming and the start of 7th generation gaming and online getting real big. Looking back at 2006 being 10 years old at the time, it was the best year of my personal life, that summer specifically due to trips to Savannah, GA, Disney World in Orlando, FL for a whole week, YMCA camp, and my first Family Reunion. Pop culturally though 2006 was a terrible year IMO with the stuff that came out at the time, shows that ended, few stores that got shutdown, and I remember it being so bland for movies. This was probably my least favorite year of the 2000's on a pop cultural standpoint. 2005 was 100000x miles better for that and it's not even close. Also, here's a couple of things that also ended/started in 2006 as well that I remember myself.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/09/mnflogo2011.jpg

http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/m_wii_console.jpg

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PS3-New-590x330.jpg


For movies as you have stated 2006 did not have anything good.  I don't knw why everything started changing in 2006 tho.

Ironically I still played my PS2 and XBOX in 2006 and even early 07. Even though we begun transitioning into the 7th gen with Wii and PS3's release.

Oh I feel you, ps3 was like 700 dollars or something when it launched AHA

For movies as you have stated 2006 did not have anything good.  I don't knw why everything started changing in 2006 tho.


I was blessed that my parents took me on all those vacations throughout 2006 including me getting a Nintendo DS at the time, that probably saved 2006 for me. At least most of my peak childhood was spent before that year.

For movies as you have stated 2006 did not have anything good.  I don't knw why everything started changing in 2006 tho.


I think 2006 had some great movies.  A lot of good horror movies came out that year.  Plus, there was Borat, which to me is one of the more iconic '00s movies, really capturing the social and political zeitgeist of the era and satirizing it.  Idiocracy also came out that year, which was another classic.

I think music for the most part was bland that year, until the fall that is.  That was when hip-hop started to emphasize synth melodies (a very "late '00s" thing) and scene rock was beginning to peak.

I was blessed that my parents took me on all those vacations throughout 2006 including me getting a Nintendo DS at the time, that probably saved 2006 for me. At least most of my peak childhood was spent before that year.


Yeah you kept yourself busy AF. I think a big reason why 2006 was dry for movies was because 2005 had hits every single month.

The WB changes to the CW

http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/images/International/usa/cw/cw_images/cw_prelaunch_promo_2006a.jpg


Oh no.... the OFFICIAL DEATH of the WB and my beloved Kids WB itself. Happened during this time. Although IMO Kids WB was already jumping the shark as early as late 2005 IMO, but when it moved to the CW that was the final nail in the coffin for the block, and in the Atlanta, GA area it was moved to Sunday mornings whether than Saturday mornings like it was on the WB. So I couldn't watch it anymore anyways. My 5th grade year (late 2006/early 2007) in general was around the time I had started losing interest in a lot of kid stations for some reason, meaning that I stopped watching it exclusively.

I think 2006 had some great movies.  A lot of good horror movies came out that year.  Plus, there was Borat, which to me is one of the more iconic '00s movies, really capturing the political zeitgeist of the era and satirizing it.  Idiocracy also came out that year, which was another classic.

I think music for the most part was bland that year, until the fall that is.  That was when hip-hop started to emphasize synth melodies (a very "late '00s" thing) and scene rock was beginning to peak.


I forget to add skinny jeans came in late 2006

Yeah late 2006 was also time when Social media was getting really big. I think this was the peak of the MySpace era and YouTube was now unstoppable. On top of that the rest of the 7th generation consoles came out, HD tvs were now becoming more common, DVD was at it's peak and Blu Ray first came onto the scene etc.

I think late 2006 was the 90's equivalent to late 1996, especially technology wise

I forget to add skinny jeans came in late 2006


Oh yeah, I forgot about them, probably because I never wore them.  They were everywhere though from late 2006 until around 2010.  I remember 2006 was the year cargo pants for guys became completely unfashionable.

Yeah late 2006 was also time when Social media was getting really big. I think this was the peak of the MySpace era and YouTube was now unstoppable. On top of that the rest of the 7th generation consoles came out, HD tvs were now becoming more common, DVD was at it's peak and Blu Ray first came onto the scene etc.

I think late 2006 was the 90's equivalent to late 1996, especially technology wise


although the HD tvs that were sold in 2006 were like 2,000 and the quality on the screens SUCKED, Facebook was released
to the public without a school e-mail in the fall of 2006 as well.

Yeah late 2006 was also time when Social media was getting really big. I think this was the peak of the MySpace era and YouTube was now unstoppable. On top of that the rest of the 7th generation consoles came out, HD tvs were now becoming more common, DVD was at it's peak and Blu Ray first came onto the scene etc.

I think late 2006 was the 90's equivalent to late 1996, especially technology wise


HDTVs were starting to become more popular but they aren't quite "there" yet.  They were still pretty clunky by today's standards and the picture quality wasn't that great.  Most people I knew still had CRT TVs until the early '10s.  It definitely was the peak of DVD.  Blu-ray had come out but it was slow to catch on at first as there really wasn't any need for it if you didn't have an HDTV.

Yup guys. 2006!!!!!!! The time is finally here, to discuss the final full year of my childhood!!!! This year was the end of the classic 00s. The modern 00s came as SOON as the fall of 2006 rolled around! Nelly Furtado and Timbaland changed the music scene. Music was SLOWLY becoming more poppy. Rock and Rap still sounded the same to me  as it did in the early 00s though.  Many things from early 00s came to an end such as the 6th gen of video gaming, tv shows like The West Wing, Malcolm in the Middle, the Bernie Mac Show, That's 70 Show, Will&Grace. MNF premiered on ESPN. Hannah Montana and HSM became the faces of Disney Channel. In politics the hatred for Bush REALLY started growing during the year!! Our brothers and sisters were losing the fight in Iraq. :\'(  RAW and Smackdown changed their logos. :(  Wii and XBOX 360 came out during the year. While I still played my PS2!! I got the original XBOX for Christmas of 2006 HELLA LATE, don't asky why!! ;D ;D ;D  It's the last console I associate with my childhood!! If I had gotten the Wii it would have been a different story!! ::)

HDTVs were starting to become more popular but they aren't quite "there" yet.  They were still pretty clunky by today's standards and the picture quality wasn't that great.  Most people I knew still had CRT TVs until the early '10s.  It definitely was the peak of DVD.  Blu-ray had come out but it was slow to catch on at first as there really wasn't any need for it if you didn't have an HDTV.


2008 was the first full year I noticed HD-TV's in a lot of places and it being advertised on TV constantly on commercials. Even throughout most 2008 Youtube wasn't HD yet, it wasn't until the very end of that year when it added the HD feature to the site. 2007 was like the last full year CRT-TV's or Flat Screen TV's that weren't HD were the norm in most people's homes. Even though HD was already available and out.

Yup guys. 2006!!!!!!! The time is finally here, to discuss the final full year of my childhood!!!! This year was the end of the classic 00s. The modern 00s came as SOON as the fall of 2006 rolled around! Nelly Furtado and Timbaland changed the music scene. Music was SLOWLY becoming more poppy. Rock and Rap still sounded the same to me  as it did in the early 00s though.


I am going to have to disagree on the music becoming more poppy, unless you consider Rihanna to be pop (which compared to today's teen pop it hardly is).  Hip-hop was nearing its peak and rock had a distinct sound during the era.  Remember this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc6vs-l5dkc

I am going to have to disagree on the music becoming more poppy, unless you consider Rihanna to be pop (which compared to today's teen pop it hardly is).  Hip-hop was nearing its peak and rock had a distinct sound during the era.  Remember this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc6vs-l5dkc


It was becoming more poppy tho, it was the start

I am going to have to disagree on the music becoming more poppy, unless you consider Rihanna to be pop (which compared to today's teen pop it hardly is).  Hip-hop was nearing its peak and rock had a distinct sound during the era.  Remember this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc6vs-l5dkc


Chris, Thank you for bringing back summer of 2006 memories!! :D

A video showing a recap of the year!
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The things that changed throughout the year!!
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Later in the year!!
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The things that changed throughout the year!!
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Finished, and from your previous post I noticed a lot of logos from franchises that changed too.

The things that changed throughout the year!!
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Later in the year!!
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This is so true! 2006 was literally the last Classic 2000's Year. I feel 2007 or even late 2006, through 2008 was the Modern 2000's.

The second half of 2006 was definitely a turning point for popular culture, and pretty much where I'd mark the beginning of the late 2000s.  The overall vibe was not especially different, as it had been in the late 90s versus the mid-90s, but several breakthroughs around that time signified that we had just fully entered the digital age, even with the 2010s zeitgeist still pretty distant.

Some of the songs that brought us into the late 2000s period of pop music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQBx4PFfzxk
This song isn't that different from, say, Hollaback Girl from the previous year, but it established Fergie as the premier pop diva of the late 2000s, alongside other figures like Rihanna and Beyoncé.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J3vgcE5i2o
Though Timbaland had already been a significant producer for almost a decade, this was the song that heralded in his golden era.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gOHvDP_vCs
Like Nelly Furtado's Loose, Justin Timberlake's FutureSex/LoveSounds was one of the definitive albums of the late 2000s, produced by Timbaland and spawning no less than six top 20 hits (three of which went to #1 on the Billboard Hot 100).

In addition to music, pop culture also changed on several other notable fronts, including:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUz8IT0CYg
James Rolfe was one of the first YouTubers to establish a career off of the site.  Sure, there had been other popular videos before him, but the Angry Video Game Nerd episodes were among the first that established credibility in YouTube as a viable hub of video series of actual substance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCd_i7wW87Q
Along with AVGN, Smosh was one of the first YouTube shows popular enough to establish careers for its hosts.  2006 was about the time people first really knew about both channels; by 2007, YouTube shows of all varieties were sprouting everywhere, giving the period's video media a drastically different structure and appeal than had been the case during the age of Numa Numa and Tunak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2T2fIysuhk
This show premiered in the spring of 2006 and quickly cemented Miley Cyrus as Disney's new teenybopper princess for the late 2000s, following the full maturing of Hillary Duff and decline of That's So Raven.

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Along with the release of the PS3, the Wii's launch in November 2006 kicked off the 7th generation of video gaming into full motion after its mid-2000s origins with the Nintendo DS and XBOX 360.  Though Twilight Princess was a significant title at the time, it was really Wii Sports that most revolutionized the gaming industry, introducing it to non-gaming communities and indirectly paving the way for the Android and iPhone games of the near future.

http://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/facebook-profile-2006.jpg?quality=65&strip=color&w=587
After its humble origins in the mid-2000s, Facebook first became a significant cultural force around 2006.  Though MySpace was still more popular during the late 2000s, autumn of 2006 was really the earliest time that a substantial number of my Facebook friends and their friends had registered with the site.

https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/9/9f/WhiteNerdyYOUSUCK.JPG
Wikipedia was also a ubiquitous presence by 2006.  I distinctly remember understanding Weird Al's reference to the site in his White & Nerdy music video from that year.  This breakthrough occurred a bit sooner than the rest I listed, but it definitely played a key part in late 2000s culture, regardless.

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With the 2006 Congressional Elections in the United States, the Democrats took over both the House and Senate, electing the first female Speaker of the House in the process.  Especially with Saddam Hussein executed at the end of the year, the backlash against the Bush '43 administration had reached its peak.

On top of the new culture from mid-late 2006, the year also saw the death or decline of other trends, which were more prevalent during the earlier parts of the decade.  Among them:

+ "Thug" rap disappears completely from the charts, leaving only snap and other forms of pop rap in its place.  Aftermath began to decline in the 2004-2005 school year, but finally fell off for good in 2006.  50 Cent attempted one last stand in 2007, but fell short to Kanye West's Graduation album.  In my opinion, the last hip hop song of a truly mid-2000s nature was Ridin' by Chamillionaire.
+ Lil' Jon disappears as the forbearer of crunk/snap music, due to the delay of his Crunk Rock album.  He had scored a notable hit in the spring with Snap Yo Fingers, but was quickly overtaken by T-Pain as the king of the snap style after his inability to follow that song up with another single.
+ The end of Malcolm in the Middle, as stated earlier in this thread.
+ This was about the time Paris Hilton began to decline in popularity.  She was arrested for a DUI around that time, and her various forms of media were drastically losing viewership.
+ The cancellation of Teen Titans, as well as the end of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! series (though the latter had long since fallen from mainstream popularity), leaving shows like Ben 10 and Naruto in their place.
+ The release of the Casino Royale remake, kickstarting the Daniel Craig era of James Bond movies.
+ This was the last full year that Lindsay Lohan was still really popular.  Her music career had already reached a dead end, and Just My Luck "marks the end of Lohan's teen queen phase" and earned the actress her first Razzie.  By 2007, with her legal problems dominating the press and the release of I Know Who Killed Me, one of the biggest flops of the decade, Lilo's fall from grace was official.

By 2006 social media had become HUGEE!!!

The second half of 2006 was definitely a turning point for popular culture, and pretty much where I'd mark the beginning of the late 2000s.  The overall vibe was not especially different, as it had been in the late 90s versus the mid-90s, but several breakthroughs around that time signified that we had just fully entered the digital age, even with the 2010s zeitgeist still pretty distant.
+ The cancellation of Teen Titans, as well as the end of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! series (though the latter had long since fallen from mainstream popularity), leaving shows like Ben 10 and Naruto in their place.

Yeah, teen titans last season felt pretty lackluster! Justice League Unlimited also ended too. :\'(  As a matter of fact the DC Animated Universe ended that year too. :\'(  and yeah, Yu Gi Oh even in 2003-04 was NOWHERE NEAR popular like it was in 2002-03. It REALLY started declining in the 04-05 school year. So yeah Yu Gi Oh was definitely a true early 00s fad. But my goodness what did not end and begin in 2006!! :o  Jeez!!

I definitely noticed it.  I have always considered this shift you speak of the final nail in the coffin for 90s culture.  The shift from '90s to '00s was much more gradual than '00s to '10s.  While the late '90s zeitgeist was gone ca. 2002, some residual things held on until late 2006.  I consider the summer of 2006 to be the last summer of my adolescence (I was 20 that year but didn't feel much different from a teenager).  I consider that period from the fall of 2006 to the summer of 2008 to be the peak of '00s culture.

I wouldn't necessarily say 90s culture, but 2002 like culture.

Yeah, teen titans last season felt pretty lackluster! Justice League Unlimited also ended too. :\'(  As a matter of fact the DC Animated Universe ended that year too. :\'(  and yeah, Yu Gi Oh even in 2003-04 was NOWHERE NEAR popular like it was in 2002-03. It REALLY started declining in the 04-05 school year. So yeah Yu Gi Oh was definitely a true early 00s fad. But my goodness what did not end and begin in 2006!! :o  Jeez!!


Lawd have mercy on 2006!? and for the longest time I thought people always made a big deal about the year 2004 being the biggest shift year of the 2000's due to a lot of fad's from 2000-2003 coming to an end that year, but NO, look at how big of a change and transition 2006 was!? Pop culturally and musically!!! I forgot that Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited ended in 2006 and I believe that was around the time I had lost interest in Toonami, although Teen Titans still played reruns on Toonami until 2007, I had stopped watching Cartoon Network exclusively by the middle of 5th grade year, and since then it's only been on rare occasions for a good show that comes on here and there. I think I've come to conclusion that the majority of my kid culture transitioned out throughout 2006 in general, but when it comes to my personal life and the video game industry 2006 was still a pretty kickass laid back year for me.

Oh I feel you, ps3 was like 700 dollars or something when it launched AHA

Yeah just like I still played N64 and gameboy color in 2001 and even in early 2002!!
Yep, it was RIDICULOUS, Sony shot themselves in the frigging foot for that! Due the PS3 being overpriced and being marketed badly, it took them a LONG time to recover and become the kings of video gaming again.

Lawd have mercy on 2006!? and for the longest time I thought people always made a big deal about the year 2004 being the biggest shift year of the 2000's due to a lot of fad's from 2000-2003 coming to an end that year, but NO, look at how big of a change and transition 2006 was!? Pop culturally and musically!!! I forgot that Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited ended in 2006 and I believe that was around the time I had lost interest in Toonami, although Teen Titans still played reruns on Toonami until 2007, I had stopped watching Cartoon Network exclusively by the middle of 5th grade year, and since then it's only been on rare occasions for a good show that comes on here and there. I think I've come to conclusion that the majority of my kid culture transitioned out throughout 2006 in general, but when it comes to my personal life and the video game industry 2006 was still a pretty kickass laid back year for me.

IKR. Speaking of kid culture, I feel like the 1998/99 school year was the beginning of my kid culture because that's when DBZ came to Toonami, Pokemon debuted in the US, Powerpuffgirls, Ed Edd n Eddy debuting on CN, Zoog Disney, Dil debuting on Rugrats, Catdog,The Wild Thornberries,Spongebob, WWF atttiude era and the nail in the coffin of my overall kid culture was during the 2005-06 school year, ultimately cause of CN city era ending and Disney becoming Hannah Monatana and HSM like.
Also, I feel the 05-06 school year was the end of kid Y culture and beginning of Z kid culture. What do you think?

Also, I feel the 05-06 school year was the end of kid Y culture and beginning of Z kid culture. What do you think?

That depends on age.  I think the 2006-2007 year is actually a more appropriate starting point for Z kid culture because although Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon had both jumped the shark in 2004, it took a couple more years before the pop culture of the day had fully transformed.  YouTube shows and the Wii are probably the most significant innovations separating the youth culture of Generation Y and that of Generation Z.  Early 2000s kids who grew up with Yu-Gi-Oh!, early Codename:  Kids Next Door, GameCube, and the like can be reasonably compared to Bush '41-era kids who watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, collected Garbage Pail Kids cards, played NES, and owned an Apple II or Commodore 64 at home; though the shows and quality of technology had evolved drastically, the overall structure of childhood was quite similar - a mix between edgy cartoon shows, mascot-driven video game consoles, and a mild dose of digital technology.  Kids growing up in the late 2000s, however, during the era of Phineas & Furb, Hannah Montana, YouTube, Wii, and eventually mobile apps, lived primarily digital lives while still children.  I can easily relate to the videos posted by James Rolfe (born July 1980, at the very beginning of Generation Y), even though I'm over a decade younger than him, because I played a lot of side-scrolling video games and mostly read game manuals for guidance as opposed to googling everything.  Though I was first introduced to the Nintendo vs. Sega console wars through him (I don't remember Sega at all growing up except for my friend owning a Dreamcast with a snowboarding game), but I still feel closer to his gaming generation than anybody who grew up with the Wii and up.

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/PS3-New-590x330.jpg

I own the big bulky version.

IKR. Speaking of kid culture, I feel like the 1998/99 school year was the beginning of my kid culture because that's when DBZ came to Toonami, Pokemon debuted in the US, Powerpuffgirls, Ed Edd n Eddy debuting on CN, Zoog Disney, Dil debuting on Rugrats, Catdog,The Wild Thornberries,Spongebob, WWF atttiude era and the nail in the coffin of my overall kid culture was during the 2005-06 school year, ultimately cause of CN city era ending and Disney becoming Hannah Monatana and HSM like.
Also, I feel the 05-06 school year was the end of kid Y culture and beginning of Z kid culture. What do you think?


Yeah, as somebody else already stated, 2004 was the year a lot of kid culture and kid stations started making big changes. Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, and even Toon Disney too, all make its big changes throughout 2004, it was a transitional year, however, Disney Channel and Kids WB wouldn't make its big changes until 2006. So it's debatable when the Z kid culture started. I'd say that the 2003-2004 was the last FULL Y kid culture school year. The last school year of Cartoon Network's golden age (Powerhouse), the last school year Toon Disney had Disney Afternoon/One Saturday Morning reruns before Jetix debuted, and the last school year Nickelodeon was in it's Klasky Csupo era of nicktoons. The last year Toonami was on weekdays. But there's a lot more too.

The 2004-2005 school year & the 2005-2006 school year were the transitions, like the Y/Z cusp kid cultural school years. By this time Cartoon Network was in its silver age in the City, Jetix had already debuted on Toon Disney and taken over half of Toon Disney, and Nickelodeon was in a new era with Drake & Josh, Ned's Declassified, however it still had some nicktoons and a few game shows but the majority of the classic nicktoons had already left. However, during this time Kids WB was still around Saturday mornings and weekdays including the shows that debuted in the early 2000's, and Disney Channel still had a balance of sitcoms and movies that didn't predominantly focus on the teenybopper phase, although it was sorta already heading in that direction a little bit but not fully, plus Disney Channel still had a lot of cartoons at the time as well.

Then by the 2006-2007 school year the changes were done to all the networks, so that's the first full Z kid culture school year. Cartoon Network got rid of CN City and went onto the YES! slogan with red backgrouunds, and by then, a lot of the newer original shows from that age had taken over and there were pretty much no more Cartoon Cartoon reruns, including the end of Teen Titans & Justice League Unlimited as someone already stated. Nickelodeon got rid of Nickelodeon studios although earlier, all the game shows were cancelled and a lot of mediocre Nicktoons started debuting around this time. Disney Channel had already jumped the shark with Hannah Montana & High School Musical while the rest of the sitcoms and cartoons were on its way out.

When it comes to the kid shows or cartoons itself, I'd say that the shows that had the majority of it's run in 2004 & before are Y, however, the shows that had the majority of its run in 2005 & after are Z. If show had a mixture of it's run before 2005 & after 2004, then it's it Y/Z cusp show.

That depends on age.  I think the 2006-2007 year is actually a more appropriate starting point for Z kid culture because although Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon had both jumped the shark in 2004, it took a couple more years before the pop culture of the day had fully transformed.  YouTube shows and the Wii are probably the most significant innovations separating the youth culture of Generation Y and that of Generation Z.  Early 2000s kids who grew up with Yu-Gi-Oh!, early Codename:  Kids Next Door, GameCube, and the like can be reasonably compared to Bush '41-era kids who watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, collected Garbage Pail Kids cards, played NES, and owned an Apple II or Commodore 64 at home; though the shows and quality of technology had evolved drastically, the overall structure of childhood was quite similar - a mix between edgy cartoon shows, mascot-driven video game consoles, and a mild dose of digital technology.  Kids growing up in the late 2000s, however, during the era of Phineas & Furb, Hannah Montana, YouTube, Wii, and eventually mobile apps, lived primarily digital lives while still children.  I can easily relate to the videos posted by James Rolfe (born July 1980, at the very beginning of Generation Y), even though I'm over a decade younger than him, because I played a lot of side-scrolling video games and mostly read game manuals for guidance as opposed to googling everything.  Though I was first introduced to the Nintendo vs. Sega console wars through him (I don't remember Sega at all growing up except for my friend owning a Dreamcast with a snowboarding game), but I still feel closer to his gaming generation than anybody who grew up with the Wii and up.

Ehh... I still consider James(AVGN) to be a VERY late Xer!! I mean he feels A LOT more old school than me. ESPECIALLY when I first watched him back when I was 12/13. 1980ers and even early 81ers to a degree don't feel like early Yers to me.

Overall yes Mq and infinity, I agree the 04-05 and 05-06 school year was Y/z cusp kid culture. with the changeful 06-07 school year(modern 00s) being the first plain z kid culture year.

That depends on age.  I think the 2006-2007 year is actually a more appropriate starting point for Z kid culture because although Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon had both jumped the shark in 2004, it took a couple more years before the pop culture of the day had fully transformed.  YouTube shows and the Wii are probably the most significant innovations separating the youth culture of Generation Y and that of Generation Z.  Early 2000s kids who grew up with Yu-Gi-Oh!, early Codename:  Kids Next Door, GameCube, and the like can be reasonably compared to Bush '41-era kids who watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, collected Garbage Pail Kids cards, played NES, and owned an Apple II or Commodore 64 at home; though the shows and quality of technology had evolved drastically, the overall structure of childhood was quite similar - a mix between edgy cartoon shows, mascot-driven video game consoles, and a mild dose of digital technology.  Kids growing up in the late 2000s, however, during the era of Phineas & Furb, Hannah Montana, YouTube, Wii, and eventually mobile apps, lived primarily digital lives while still children.  I can easily relate to the videos posted by James Rolfe (born July 1980, at the very beginning of Generation Y), even though I'm over a decade younger than him, because I played a lot of side-scrolling video games and mostly read game manuals for guidance as opposed to googling everything.  Though I was first introduced to the Nintendo vs. Sega console wars through him (I don't remember Sega at all growing up except for my friend owning a Dreamcast with a snowboarding game), but I still feel closer to his gaming generation than anybody who grew up with the Wii and up.


Yeah I agree 100%. There was a definite shift during the 2006-2007 school year.

Anyways looking back on my childhood and studying this shut intensely I've come to the conclusion that 2003-2004 was the last True Y Kid Culture Year. It was the tail end of the Powerhouse Era for CN, Klasky Csupo Era for Nick, Golden/Silver Age of Kids Wb & Fox Kids/Block, the last Web 1.0 school year, the last school year discmans were popular, the last firm CRT school year, the last year VHS was still sold to the publicl and it was normal to still watch it, the last year of the Gameboy era, the last year when cell phones weren't a necessary and payphones were common, the last year toys like Bop It's, Tamagotchis/Neopets, Pokemom/YuGiOH Cards, Furbys, Robodogs, Super Soakers, Nickelodeon branded toys, & Beyblades were firmly popular, the last good school year for SpongeBob, YuGiOh, Pokemon (original 5 seasons), Fairly Odd Parents, Family Guy, the last year a Pop Punk, Nu Metal & early 00's style R&B were popular, baggy jeans were fashionable with guys, stores like Old Navy were still relevant, Online gaming not system seller and local multiplayer still very common, etc.

Now I am not suggesting some of these trends didn't survive past 2004, but they surely were at their very peak for the last time from late 2003/early 2004

The 2004-2005 & 2005-2006 school years were truly transitional years for Gen Y kid culture and I agree wth you guys that 2006-2007, was probably the first true Gen Z kid Culture Year. Maybe that's the reason why a lot of us stopped watching kid channels in or around this time

I definitely noticed it.  I have always considered this shift you speak of the final nail in the coffin for 90s culture.  The shift from '90s to '00s was much more gradual than '00s to '10s.  While the late '90s zeitgeist was gone ca. 2002, some residual things held on until late 2006.  I consider the summer of 2006 to be the last summer of my adolescence (I was 20 that year but didn't feel much different from a teenager).  I consider that period from the fall of 2006 to the summer of 2008 to be the peak of '00s culture.


Oddly, it was sort of the same way for me, too. I was also in college in 2006, and I've come to see it as the "last summer of my adolescence" as well.

For one, the summer of '06 was the last where I was fully immersed into the current musical scene. I can easily recall easily recall most of the big songs of 2006 off the top of my head (like "Chain Hang Low" by Jibbs, "Rockstar" by Nickleback, "SexyBack" by Justin Timberlake, "Lips of an Angel" by Hinder, etc.), whereas, when I look back at 2007 or 2008, I actually find myself having to go online and look up what the top hits from those years are. I'm not really sure why my interest in music began to drop off after '06, but it's undeniable that it did.

I think the main reason that 2006 feels like the end of adolescence for me in hindsight is because it was around that time that all of the massive advancements in technology were making it obvious that the era I had grown up in was coming to an end. 2006 was the year I found YouTube and online streaming video, the year I downloaded my first song off iTunes, the year I created my original MySpace account, and the year I started regularly playing video games with my friends online. By the time January 2007 came along, it was pretty clear that the CD store shopping, Yahoo messaging, Halo LAN partying days that marked my high school years were over.


Ehh... I still consider James(AVGN) to be a VERY late Xer!! I mean he feels A LOT more old school than me. ESPECIALLY when I first watched him back when I was 12/13. 1980ers and even early 81ers to a degree don't feel like early Yers to me.


Yeah, I think '80ers and '81ers are right on the cusp of the two generations. A kid born in 1980 would've been 11-years-old when Nevermind was released, and 14-years-old when Kurt Cobain died, certainly old enough to have gotten heavily into the whole "Grunge movement" if they so chose. On the flipside, an '80er would've been in college during the Y2K music scene, an could possibly have been a fan of groups that had big "early Yer" followings like Limp Bizkit or Linkin Park.

As far as video games go, the AVGN and I have similar taste. Rolfe is seven years older than me (almost exactly to the day), but video gaming did not advance quite as quickly in the late '80s/early '90s, so many of his favorite NES games growing up were also some of the first ones I cut my gaming teeth on in the early '90s (like TMNT, SMB 1, SMB 3, Contra, etc.)

To me:
2000-mid 2006 awesome
Late 2006-2009 sucked

Simples.

Oddly, it was sort of the same way for me, too. I was also in college in 2006, and I've come to see it as the "last summer of my adolescence" as well.

I think the main reason that 2006 feels like the end of adolescence for me in hindsight is because it was around that time that all of the massive advancements in technology were making it obvious that the era I had grown up in was coming to an end. 2006 was the year I found YouTube and online streaming video, the year I downloaded my first song off iTunes, the year I created my original MySpace account, and the year I started regularly playing video games with my friends online. By the time January 2007 came along, it was pretty clear that the CD store shopping, Yahoo messaging, Halo LAN partying days that marked my high school years were over.


Great points.  I do think the changing technology has a lot to do with it.  After 2006, LAN parties did become less of a thing.  There wasn't as much of a need as everyone had broadband.  I miss the social aspect of LAN parties however.  I also consider that year the last Web 1.0 year.  Limewire was big that year for pirating music.  I didn't like iTunes at the time because you couldn't get a DRM-free MP3 like you can today.  The music industry encouraged pirating by making it so difficult to legally download music.  For most people, it was either buy the CD or use Limewire.  If you just wanted a song and not an entire album, Limewire it was.  Finally, Amazon wised up and started offering MP3 downloads.  That was the beginning of the end of P2P file sharing.

I remember explicitly in 2006 thinking to myself about how we were over halfway through the '00s and they weren't that different from the '90s.  By 2007 I no longer thought that.

I don't think everything changed around late 2006.

What about the series finale of The Sopranos in June 2007?

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/795/795526/made-in-america-20070611105219660.jpg

Or the series finale of The Wire in early 2008?

http://www.civin.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/the-wire-season-5.jpg

Just because your favorite shows like Malcolm In The Middle ended around 2006, that doesn't mean the most popular ones end in the same time.

I don't think everything changed around late 2006.


Of course not everything literally changed overnight in 2006, but a lot of things for a fact did change a lot pop culturally in 2006, which was the final nail in the coffin for a lot of culture or influences that had been relevant since the earlier 2000's. Just look through the photos and comments on this thread, there was so many changes that happened in 2006, heck even more than 2004 which stunned me myself. As for 2007, I don't remember that many things changing that year, the Sopranos series finale and a couple other things is just not enough compared to 2006.

I don't think everything changed around late 2006.

What about the series finale of The Sopranos in June 2007?

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/795/795526/made-in-america-20070611105219660.jpg

Or the series finale of The Wire in early 2008?

http://www.civin.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/the-wire-season-5.jpg

Just because your favorite shows like Malcolm In The Middle ended around 2006, that doesn't mean the most popular ones end in the same time.

Sopranos and The Wire ending during the 2007-08 school year, was INDEED one of the things that put an end to the core 00s, but NOT the classic 2000s.

Great points.  I do think the changing technology has a lot to do with it.  After 2006, LAN parties did become less of a thing.  There wasn't as much of a need as everyone had broadband.  I miss the social aspect of LAN parties however.  I also consider that year the last Web 1.0 year.  Limewire was big that year for pirating music.  I didn't like iTunes at the time because you couldn't get a DRM-free MP3 like you can today.  The music industry encouraged pirating by making it so difficult to legally download music.  For most people, it was either buy the CD or use Limewire.  If you just wanted a song and not an entire album, Limewire it was.  Finally, Amazon wised up and started offering MP3 downloads.  That was the beginning of the end of P2P file sharing.

I remember explicitly in 2006 thinking to myself about how we were over halfway through the '00s and they weren't that different from the '90s.  By 2007 I no longer thought that.


Oh yeah, LAN parties were awesome. I live in a small town, so there was really only one guy in my school who had a setup that could support them, but he was always inviting guys over on weekends to play. The best LAN party we ever had was back in November 2004 just after Halo 2 came out. Like ten or fifteen guys came over and we had four TVs set up with window drapes in between them so we couldn't look over at the other player's screens. I guess, looking back, the LAN party is kind of like to '00s teens what those 1-900 "party lines" were to '80s teens. Just like chat rooms killed party lines, broadband internet killed LAN parties.

iTunes was a hassle early on. I started downloading songs off of it in 2006 because that's when I got my first iPod, but I also still used stuff like Limewire and Aries to put songs on my PSP (another forgotten mid '00s relic). Not only were P2P services easier to use, but they also had quite a few songs available that had not been added to iTunes yet.

Ehh... I still consider James(AVGN) to be a VERY late Xer!! I mean he feels A LOT more old school than me. ESPECIALLY when I first watched him back when I was 12/13. 1980ers and even early 81ers to a degree don't feel like early Yers to me.


I consider James to be from the VERY beginning of Generation Y because he didn't graduate from college until 2004, remained a loyal Nintendo player well into his teens (he bought Nintendo 64 when it was new, though he strongly prefers Super Nintendo), was fully immersed in Turtlemania, and, mostly importantly, has established a career for himself as an INTERNET VIDEO CELEBRITY. Sure, some of his tastes are a little antiquated compared to late Y-ers, but as a whole, I think he better represents the beginning of the millennial generation than the end of the MTV generation.

Of course not everything literally changed overnight in 2006, but a lot of things for a fact did change a lot pop culturally in 2006, which was the final nail in the coffin for a lot of culture or influences that had been relevant since the earlier 2000's. Just look through the photos and comments on this thread, there was so many changes that happened in 2006, heck even more than 2004 which stunned me myself. As for 2007, I don't remember that many things changing that year, the Sopranos series finale and a couple other things is just not enough compared to 2006.


I also think the shift in 2006 were more felt by '90s kids than '00s kids and it was focused more on old trends dying out than new trends coming in.  The real cultural shift wouldn't begin until two years later, in the fall of 2008. 

I also think the shift in 2006 were more felt by '90s kids than '00s kids and it was focused more on old trends dying out than new trends coming in.  The real cultural shift wouldn't begin until two years later, in the fall of 2008. 

I mainly grew up in the 00s. But the shift felt HUGE for me as well.

I consider James to be from the VERY beginning of Generation Y because he didn't graduate from college until 2004, remained a loyal Nintendo player well into his teens (he bought Nintendo 64 when it was new, though he strongly prefers Super Nintendo), was fully immersed in Turtlemania, and, mostly importantly, has established a career for himself as an INTERNET VIDEO CELEBRITY. Sure, some of his tastes are a little antiquated compared to late Y-ers, but as a whole, I think he better represents the beginning of the millennial generation than the end of the MTV generation.

I just always considered the 1999 class to be the final Gen X class. But hey that's just me!! and also turtlemania was BOTH a late Gen x and early Gen Y thing.

I just always considered the 1999 class to be the final Gen X class. But hey that's just me!! and also turtlemania was BOTH a late Gen x and early Gen Y thing.


I think it depends on the person; I'd agree that 1980, for the most part, was a Gen-X birth year, but James being old for his class and having pioneered a strictly digital age movement puts him more in the category of Y than X. It seems like he grew up with mostly the same stuff as Doug Walker, who was born in late 1982 and graduated high school in 2000. Also, James would have already been 10 when the first Ninja Turtles movie came out and had been anticipating the ill-fated third movie when he was 12 and a half. Most people born in the late 70s would likely have been relatively disinterested in TMNT by the peak of Turtlemania. James, on the other hand, pretty faithful to his childhood icons throughout his teens.

I think it depends on the person; I'd agree that 1980, for the most part, was a Gen-X birth year, but James being old for his class and having pioneered a strictly digital age movement puts him more in the category of Y than X. It seems like he grew up with mostly the same stuff as Doug Walker, who was born in late 1982 and graduated high school in 2000. Also, James would have already been 10 when the first Ninja Turtles movie came out and had been anticipating the ill-fated third movie when he was 12 and a half. Most people born in the late 70s would likely have been relatively disinterested in TMNT by the peak of Turtlemania. James, on the other hand, pretty faithful to his childhood icons throughout his teens.

About Doug(NC), yes he is without question an early millennial. They are both in kinda the same age range with James being the VERY late Xer and Doug being the early millenial. James said he lost interest in TMNT after the first movie. Regarding the ''kid'' culture between the two, NC not only does some of his cartoon reviews from the late 80s and very early 90s, but from the 1992-1996 years as well. While James on the other hand doesn't really discuss that. Every ''kid'' thing I always see James discuss is MAINLY, strictly from the 80s and 1990/1991ish. NC seems like a hybrid of that era. While James seems like a strictly 80s and VERY early 90s kid.

About Doug(NC), yes he is without question an early millennial. They are both in kinda the same age range with James being the VERY late Xer and Doug being the early millenial. James said he lost interest in TMNT after the first movie. Regarding the ''kid'' culture between the two, NC not only does some of his cartoon reviews from the late 80s and very early 90s, but from the 1992-1996 years as well. While James on the other hand doesn't really discuss that. Every ''kid'' thing I always see James discuss is MAINLY, strictly from the 80s and 1990/1991ish. NC seems like a hybrid of that era. While James seems like a strictly 80s and VERY early 90s kid.


I thought James lost interest in TMNT after Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III?  In his review of the movie, he said he had "dreams about going to see Turtles III and then waking up and being pissed off that it wasn't real" and that the wait was "f**king killing" him.  He said in the same review that he loved The Secret of the Ooze as a kid, even though it had Tokka and Razar instead of Bebop and Rocksteady.  I know he was lamenting over the scarring effect Ninja Turtles III left on his childhood as part of the AVGN show (or "The Angry Movie Nerd," in this case), but the fact that this was the first and only movie he reviewed as the Nerd (besides the obscure Ricky 1 for the Nostalgia Critic feud) speaks a lot both to his fandom of Ninja Turtles, as well as that of everyone else.  Doug Walker says he won't fully review Ninja Turtles III as part of Nostalgia Critic because he thought James' review reflected his own experience with the movies perfectly.

I guess I just see James Rolfe as being from the Y side of 1980 births because his primary interests were either more cutting edge than most late X-ers; he was always pretty geeky growing up, and as such was interested in things like video games, as well as the art of filmmaking, as opposed to the Gen-X trends his older contemporaries were pushing (although he apparently likes Alice in Chains, not to mention the AVGN theme song sounds like Smells Like Teen Spirit).  He grew up with Nintendo and edgy cartoon shows, just as I did over a decade later, and has now established himself through the medium of YouTube, becoming popular before the site had even fully taken off.  Due to his being born in 1980, it's hard to pinpoint exactly where he lies, but at the very least, he's Gen-Y enough that I can generally relate to him as a late millennial.

Of course not everything literally changed overnight in 2006, but a lot of things for a fact did change a lot pop culturally in 2006, which was the final nail in the coffin for a lot of culture or influences that had been relevant since the earlier 2000's. Just look through the photos and comments on this thread, there was so many changes that happened in 2006, heck even more than 2004 which stunned me myself. As for 2007, I don't remember that many things changing that year, the Sopranos series finale and a couple other things is just not enough compared to 2006.


its funny a thing we associate the 2010s with  Facebook
came out in 2006 and people were using it slowly  (similar to how Youtube got popular in 2006)

I consider James to be from the VERY beginning of Generation Y because he didn't graduate from college until 2004, remained a loyal Nintendo player well into his teens (he bought Nintendo 64 when it was new, though he strongly prefers Super Nintendo), was fully immersed in Turtlemania, and, mostly importantly, has established a career for himself as an INTERNET VIDEO CELEBRITY. Sure, some of his tastes are a little antiquated compared to late Y-ers, but as a whole, I think he better represents the beginning of the millennial generation than the end of the MTV generation.


I atcually fell out of videos games around 2006, sheesh got boring tbh, I was way busier with working @ the mall at the time.
Alot of teens worked at the mall then.

Oh yeah, LAN parties were awesome. I live in a small town, so there was really only one guy in my school who had a setup that could support them, but he was always inviting guys over on weekends to play. The best LAN party we ever had was back in November 2004 just after Halo 2 came out. Like ten or fifteen guys came over and we had four TVs set up with window drapes in between them so we couldn't look over at the other player's screens. I guess, looking back, the LAN party is kind of like to '00s teens what those 1-900 "party lines" were to '80s teens. Just like chat rooms killed party lines, broadband internet killed LAN parties.

iTunes was a hassle early on. I started downloading songs off of it in 2006 because that's when I got my first iPod, but I also still used stuff like Limewire and Aries to put songs on my PSP (another forgotten mid '00s relic). Not only were P2P services easier to use, but they also had quite a few songs available that had not been added to iTunes yet.


dont forget you could listen to a bands myspace song for free on their myspace

its funny a thing we associate the 2010s with  Facebook
came out in 2006 and people were using it slowly  (similar to how Youtube got popular in 2006)


I don't know.  If you were in college, you might have used Facebook in 2004 or 2005.  2006 was the year it opened up to everyone.  That was when Facebook officially became uncool, because now it was a tool for helicopter parents to spy on their adult children (at least for me it was).  MySpace held out as the most popular social networking site for a few more years after that.

I don't know.  If you were in college, you might have used Facebook in 2004 or 2005.  2006 was the year it opened up to everyone.  That was when Facebook officially became uncool, because now it was a tool for helicopter parents to spy on their adult children (at least for me it was).  MySpace held out as the most popular social networking site for a few more years after that.


Facebook was never a place to spy on kids in 2006,
2010 2011 is when parents got ahold of it.

And yes I agree myspace was more popular then, facebook was like
this weird site that people were confused on what the purpose was.

I atcually fell out of videos games around 2006, sheesh got boring tbh, I was way busier with working @ the mall at the time.
Alot of teens worked at the mall then.


My peak PC gaming years were probably 2003-2006.  I started to slowly fall out of it in 2007.  7th Gen consoles completely changed video gaming and in my opinion, were also responsible for the decline of PC gaming.  I am not sure what changed, but in terms of multiplayer I used to love games like Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament 2004, and Counter Strike Source.  I really can't stand Battlefield 3 or later, any Call of Duty, or any games similar to them.  I just find them boring.

My peak PC gaming years were probably 2003-2006.  I started to slowly fall out of it in 2007.  7th Gen consoles completely changed video gaming and in my opinion, were also responsible for the decline of PC gaming.  I am not sure what changed, but in terms of multiplayer I used to love games like Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament 2004, and Counter Strike Source.  I really can't stand Battlefield 3 or later, any Call of Duty, or any games similar to them.  I just find them boring.


OMG call of duty ruined video games
even tho it got popular in 2005

late 2006 screams this

http://prochefblog.com/public_pics/vtwin/pillion/whale_tail_005.jpg

I thought James lost interest in TMNT after Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III?  In his review of the movie, he said he had "dreams about going to see Turtles III and then waking up and being pissed off that it wasn't real" and that the wait was "f**king killing" him.  He said in the same review that he loved The Secret of the Ooze as a kid, even though it had Tokka and Razar instead of Bebop and Rocksteady.  I know he was lamenting over the scarring effect Ninja Turtles III left on his childhood as part of the AVGN show (or "The Angry Movie Nerd," in this case), but the fact that this was the first and only movie he reviewed as the Nerd (besides the obscure Ricky 1 for the Nostalgia Critic feud) speaks a lot both to his fandom of Ninja Turtles, as well as that of everyone else.  Doug Walker says he won't fully review Ninja Turtles III as part of Nostalgia Critic because he thought James' review reflected his own experience with the movies perfectly.

I guess I just see James Rolfe as being from the Y side of 1980 births because his primary interests were either more cutting edge than most late X-ers; he was always pretty geeky growing up, and as such was interested in things like video games, as well as the art of filmmaking, as opposed to the Gen-X trends his older contemporaries were pushing (although he apparently likes Alice in Chains, not to mention the AVGN theme song sounds like Smells Like Teen Spirit).  He grew up with Nintendo and edgy cartoon shows, just as I did over a decade later, and has now established himself through the medium of YouTube, becoming popular before the site had even fully taken off.  Due to his being born in 1980, it's hard to pinpoint exactly where he lies, but at the very least, he's Gen-Y enough that I can generally relate to him as a late millennial.

oops I meant to say that he felt the SERIES jumped the shark after the first movie! Yeah he was into it until that AWFUL third movie!

I think it depends on the person; I'd agree that 1980, for the most part, was a Gen-X birth year, but James being old for his class and having pioneered a strictly digital age movement puts him more in the category of Y than X. It seems like he grew up with mostly the same stuff as Doug Walker, who was born in late 1982 and graduated high school in 2000. Also, James would have already been 10 when the first Ninja Turtles movie came out and had been anticipating the ill-fated third movie when he was 12 and a half. Most people born in the late 70s would likely have been relatively disinterested in TMNT by the peak of Turtlemania. James, on the other hand, pretty faithful to his childhood icons throughout his teens.


I always saw 1980 babies as a mix bag when it came to which Generation they belong to. For instance they were kids during the mid-late 80's during the tail end of the X Era and the Vey Beginning of the Y Era. They were teens during the core 90's during the Gen X Era but graduated high school in 1998 during the Y Era and were in college during the Y Era as well. So it really all boils down on a person to person basis in all honesty. However if I had to make a divided line I guess those born in early-mid 1980 (aka Class of 98) would be the last of X while Late 1980 (Class of 99') would be the beginning of Y. But once again since they are on that borderline it's really up to how each person born around that identifies with better

To me:
2000-mid 2006 awesome
Late 2006-2009 sucked

Simples.

agreed

agreed

Do you think today is better or  late 06-09?

Do you think today is better or  late 06-09?


I would say (minus music and some tv shows) its better today than it was late 2006-2009. Remember this was the Great Recession & Subprime Mortgage Crisis Era.

I would say (minus music and some tv shows) its better today than it was late 2006-2009. Remember this was the Great Recession & Subprime Mortgage Crisis Era.

True, but I liked 2006 and even 08.

late 2006 screams this

http://prochefblog.com/public_pics/vtwin/pillion/whale_tail_005.jpg


:D :D :D :D :D :D ;) 8)

I would say (minus music and some tv shows) its better today than it was late 2006-2009. Remember this was the Great Recession & Subprime Mortgage Crisis Era.


2006 was the calm before the storm economically.  From my memory, the economy was humming along nicely that year.  That was also the year Bush really started to lose popularity due to the war in Iraq. 

2006 was the calm before the storm economically.  From my memory, the economy was humming along nicely that year.  That was also the year Bush really started to lose popularity due to the war in Iraq.


2006 was the last year with a strong economy

I didn't see much of a shift in 2006 as I saw in late 2005 (the '05/'06 school year). 2006 was a bland year culturally, and any change that it tried was not for the better and didn't work out too well.

I didn't see much of a shift in 2006 as I saw in late 2005 (the '05/'06 school year). 2006 was a bland year culturally, and any change that it tried was not for the better and didn't work out too well.


I would say it probably was the blandest year of the '00s if you talk about music.  There wasn't a lot that was super memorable that year in Top 40.  A lot of it had to do with the fact music had not changed much since 2002-03 and the sounds/genres of the era were starting to get tired.  However, I disagree that it was a bland year when talking about other aspects of culture like fashion, TV, movies, video games, and technology.

Yeah I agree 100%. There was a definite shift during the 2006-2007 school year.

Anyways looking back on my childhood and studying this shut intensely I've come to the conclusion that 2003-2004 was the last True Y Kid Culture Year. It was the tail end of the Powerhouse Era for CN, Klasky Csupo Era for Nick, Golden/Silver Age of Kids Wb & Fox Kids/Block, the last Web 1.0 school year, the last school year discmans were popular, the last firm CRT school year, the last year VHS was still sold to the publicl and it was normal to still watch it, the last year of the Gameboy era, the last year when cell phones weren't a necessary and payphones were common, the last year toys like Bop It's, Tamagotchis/Neopets, Pokemom/YuGiOH Cards, Furbys, Robodogs, Super Soakers, Nickelodeon branded toys, & Beyblades were firmly popular, the last good school year for SpongeBob, YuGiOh, Pokemon (original 5 seasons), Fairly Odd Parents, Family Guy, the last year a Pop Punk, Nu Metal & early 00's style R&B were popular, baggy jeans were fashionable with guys, stores like Old Navy were still relevant, Online gaming not system seller and local multiplayer still very common, etc.

It was also the last year Kobe/Shaq were still teammates, Kurt Warner was still with my Rams, the last year Stone Cold Steve Austin and The rock were still featured heavily on WWE programming(Even though HHH and Brock Lesnar were the focal points of RAW and Smackdown), last year of The Practice, Friends, Frasier,Animated movies in 2D were still being released(even though pixar and dreamworks had already made cgi animated films) etc.

2006 was the last year with a strong economy


Yeah looking back thats actually true! I think that was the absolute peak of the Housing Bubble before it started to go downhill in 2007

It was also the last year Kobe/Shaq were still teammates, Kurt Warner was still with my Rams, the last year Stone Cold Steve Austin and The rock were still featured heavily on WWE programming(Even though HHH and Brock Lesnar were the focal points of RAW and Smackdown), last year of The Practice, Friends, Frasier,Animated movies in 2D were still being released(even though pixar and dreamworks had already made cgi animated films) etc.


Thats very true! Looking back, the 2004-2005 & 2005-2006 were transitional school years from very Late Y Kid Culture like Pokemon, Early Spongebob, Furbys, Tamogotchis, Bop Its, Dial Up internet and sites like Yahoolagins, Late Gameboy Era, VHS/DVD, Klasky Csupo Nick, Powerhouse Era CN, & tween shows like Lizzie McGuire & Even Stevens

To the very Early Z Kid Culture like Post Misty Pokemon, Post Movie Spongebob, Bionicle, Webkinz, Guitar Hero, Broadband Internet and sites like Club Penguin, Early DS Era, DVD, Bronze Age Nick, City Era CN, & tween shows like Hannah Montana & The Suite Life of Zack and Cody

the last year Stone Cold Steve Austin and The rock were still featured heavily on WWE programming(Even though HHH and Brock Lesnar were the focal points of RAW and Smackdown

Brock Lesnar wasn't a focal point until a few years later, It was more Triple H. Are you referring to after 2006? ???

Brock Lesnar wasn't a focal point until a few years later, It was more Triple H. Are you referring to after 2006? ???

I'm talking 2003/04ish. Rock and Austin were still on RAW and Smackdown, but HHH & Evolution were ruling RAW, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, and Undertaker were running Smackdown

I'm talking 2003/04ish. Rock and Austin were still on RAW and Smackdown, but HHH & Evolution were ruling RAW, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, and Undertaker were running Smackdown


Yeah that part I know, that what was when wrestling was still good.

2006-2008. The pinnacle years of the decade and the last of the classic '00s. The best music, best TV shows, best fashion, decent economy and social media 1.0.

Where 720p youtube videos were as rare and luxurious as a flawless politician and where pluto became a dwarf planet.

I remember how early youtube was in the late 00s with the great but limited entertainment. You had the handful of established entertainers like Smosh, Avgn and Nigahiga as well as funny clips and music videos. The Internet really took over TV as a source for music video viewing. The last time I saw Much Music or MTV devote and entire block to music videos was 2008/early 2009. 2006 saw the end of TV shows like Teen titans and Invader zim but it saw the emergence of more dramatic shows like Digata, Avatar and Supernatural.

Music took a pretty big shift as the general sound went from acoustic and worn out  gangsta rap to electronic and more "speaking-out" type music. There was also alot of mellow tunes as well like 1,2,3,4 by Fiest and foreign language songs began taking presence too.
As someone else here mentioned, Hiphop shifted from the popularity of 50 towards the likes of Kanye West. This was the emergence of Alternative rap which came to dominate the last 00s. Emo really exploded thanks to Myspace.

Gaming saw the death of the 6th gen and the emergence of the 7th gen, the last gen where I really cared about wholly and didn't feel ripped off with DLC and micro transactions. The iPhone came out a year later but wasn't advanced enough to stand on it's own as a contender like it can today.

Politics between 2005-06 had many countries reelect their leaders. I think Bush was reelected this year. The war on terror machine was declining as the last few people whom were on the fence about Bush's policies began developing apathy to the whole thing. Coverage was virtually non existent by 2008.

For me, I switched elementary schools in 2006 and ended up liking my new school much better than my old one. It seemed like the kids of my old school put alot of attention into reality shows and publicity stunts while my new school was more into scripted programs and deep music. I really picked up on the parts of pop culture that really mattered that year.

All in all, I liked 2006 more than 2005. '05 had this stale '90s overstayed welcome to it and needed something fresh. 2006 brought freshness to pop culture.

2006-2008. The pinnacle years of the decade and the last of the classic '00s. The best music, best TV shows, best fashion, decent economy and social media 1.0.

Where 720p youtube videos were as rare and luxurious as a flawless politician and where pluto became a dwarf planet.

I remember how early youtube was in the late 00s with the great but limited entertainment. You had the handful of established entertainers like Smosh, Avgn and Nigahiga as well as funny clips and music videos. The Internet really took over TV as a source for music video viewing. The last time I saw Much Music or MTV devote and entire block to music videos was 2008/early 2009. 2006 saw the end of TV shows like Teen titans and Invader zim but it saw the emergence of more dramatic shows like Digata, Avatar and Supernatural.

Music took a pretty big shift as the general sound went from acoustic and worn out  gangsta rap to electronic and more "speaking-out" type music. There was also alot of mellow tunes as well like 1,2,3,4 by Fiest and foreign language songs began taking presence too.
As someone else here mentioned, Hiphop shifted from the popularity of 50 towards the likes of Kanye West. This was the emergence of Alternative rap which came to dominate the last 00s. Emo really exploded thanks to Myspace.

Gaming saw the death of the 6th gen and the emergence of the 7th gen, the last gen where I really cared about wholly and didn't feel ripped off with DLC and micro transactions. The iPhone came out a year later but wasn't advanced enough to stand on it's own as a contender like it can today.

Politics between 2005-06 had many countries reelect their leaders. I think Bush was reelected this year. The war on terror machine was declining as the last few people whom were on the fence about Bush's policies began developing apathy to the whole thing. Coverage was virtually non existent by 2008.

For me, I switched elementary schools in 2006 and ended up liking my new school much better than my old one. It seemed like the kids of my old school put alot of attention into reality shows and publicity stunts while my new school was more into scripted programs and deep music. I really picked up on the parts of pop culture that really mattered that year.

All in all, I liked 2006 more than 2005. '05 had this stale '90s overstayed welcome to it and needed something fresh. 2006 brought freshness to pop culture.


Mostly agree with this.

I do find it interesting though that you find 2005 more stale than 2006.  Most people agree that 2006 probably was the most stale year of the entire '00s musically.  I remember 2005 specifically for the prominence of "crunk" that year as well as post-grunge and Green Day's resurgence.  2006, until the final three months, didn't really have anything fresh.

2006-2008. The pinnacle years of the decade and the last of the classic '00s. The best music, best TV shows, best fashion, decent economy and social media 1.0.

Where 720p youtube videos were as rare and luxurious as a flawless politician and where pluto became a dwarf planet.

I remember how early youtube was in the late 00s with the great but limited entertainment. You had the handful of established entertainers like Smosh, Avgn and Nigahiga as well as funny clips and music videos. The Internet really took over TV as a source for music video viewing. The last time I saw Much Music or MTV devote and entire block to music videos was 2008/early 2009. 2006 saw the end of TV shows like Teen titans and Invader zim but it saw the emergence of more dramatic shows like Digata, Avatar and Supernatural.

Music took a pretty big shift as the general sound went from acoustic and worn out  gangsta rap to electronic and more "speaking-out" type music. There was also alot of mellow tunes as well like 1,2,3,4 by Fiest and foreign language songs began taking presence too.
As someone else here mentioned, Hiphop shifted from the popularity of 50 towards the likes of Kanye West. This was the emergence of Alternative rap which came to dominate the last 00s. Emo really exploded thanks to Myspace.

Gaming saw the death of the 6th gen and the emergence of the 7th gen, the last gen where I really cared about wholly and didn't feel ripped off with DLC and micro transactions. The iPhone came out a year later but wasn't advanced enough to stand on it's own as a contender like it can today.

Politics between 2005-06 had many countries reelect their leaders. I think Bush was reelected this year. The war on terror machine was declining as the last few people whom were on the fence about Bush's policies began developing apathy to the whole thing. Coverage was virtually non existent by 2008.

For me, I switched elementary schools in 2006 and ended up liking my new school much better than my old one. It seemed like the kids of my old school put alot of attention into reality shows and publicity stunts while my new school was more into scripted programs and deep music. I really picked up on the parts of pop culture that really mattered that year.

All in all, I liked 2006 more than 2005. '05 had this stale '90s overstayed welcome to it and needed something fresh. 2006 brought freshness to pop culture.



2006 was suppose to be the finale of the 2000s, however it lingered on until late 2008  thats the feeling most people get here

Yeah that part I know, that what was when wrestling was still good.


Raw was sheesh until late 2004  (RA era)

Yeah looking back thats actually true! I think that was the absolute peak of the Housing Bubble before it started to go downhill in 2007


malls were packed in 2006, it seemed that was the last year before mall culture died

Raw was sheesh until late 2004  (RA era)

Nah, Raw became better than SD when Benoit joined after the Royal Rumble.

I have come down to a new conclusion of how I divide the cultural 2000's, after thinking about it for awhile. Here's my updated chart, however, there might be some mistakes in here, so it's not official yet.

late 1997-mid 2000: LATE 90's
1999: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2000-mid 2001: transition from LATE 90's to EARLY 2000's

late 2001-mid 2003: EARLY 2000's
2002: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2003-mid 2004: transition from EARLY 2000's to MID 2000's

late 2004-mid 2006: MID 2000's
2005: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2006-mid 2008: transition from MID 2000's to LATE 2000's

late 2008-mid 2011: LATE 2000's
2009: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2011-mid 2012: transition from LATE 2000's to EARLY 2010's

late 2012-early 2014: EARLY 2010's
2013: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

Now honestly, I think we have to see how 2016 looks, that will be big. Looking at what's been going in 2015 so far, it's been pretty bland pop culturally IMO with the exception of some great movies, then you have Gay Marriage being legalized, all these shootings, and all these cases with riots too. We might be in a transitional period into mid 2010's culture, or we might already be there right now without us realizing it.

I have come down to a new conclusion of how I divide the cultural 2000's, after thinking about it for awhile. Here's my updated chart, however, there might be some mistakes in here, so it's not official yet.

late 1997-mid 2000: LATE 90's
1999: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2000-mid 2001: transition from LATE 90's to EARLY 2000's

late 2001-mid 2003: EARLY 2000's
2002: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2003-mid 2004: transition from EARLY 2000's to MID 2000's

late 2004-mid 2006: MID 2000's
2005: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2006-mid 2008: transition from MID 2000's to LATE 2000's

late 2008-mid 2011: LATE 2000's
2009: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

late 2011-mid 2012: transition from LATE 2000's to EARLY 2010's

late 2012-early 2014: EARLY 2010's
2013: QUINTESSENTIAL YEAR

Now honestly, I think we have to see how 2016 looks, that will be big. Looking at what's been going in 2015 so far, it's been pretty bland pop culturally IMO with the exception of some great movies, then you have Gay Marriage being legalized, all these shootings, and all these cases with riots too. We might be in a transitional period into mid 2010's culture, or we might already be there right now without us realizing it.


we been in the mid 2010s since 2013

I didn't see much of a shift in 2006 as I saw in late 2005 (the '05/'06 school year). 2006 was a bland year culturally, and any change that it tried was not for the better and didn't work out too well.


the 2006/2007 year there was def a shift

nothing much changed in the 05/06 school year other than xbox 360 and HD tv

malls were packed in 2006, it seemed that was the last year before mall culture died


There was a pretty big shakeout nationwide for malls around that time.  Upscale ones remained popular but a lot of the smaller and older malls began to decline around then.  The 2008 recession really did them in.  I think the trend has somewhat stabilized at this point.  A lot of the malls that I am familiar with seem to be doing okay.  Teen mall culture is dead though and has been since the record stores and mall arcades closed.

There was a pretty big shakeout nationwide for malls around that time.  Upscale ones remained popular but a lot of the smaller and older malls began to decline around then.  The 2008 recession really did them in.  I think the trend has somewhat stabilized at this point.  A lot of the malls that I am familiar with seem to be doing okay.  Teen mall culture is dead though and has been since the record stores and mall arcades closed.


Well for the east coast around 2006, Virgin megastore got the shafted as well as Sam Goody, from late 2006- late 2008/09 stores were closing month after month,
we just did not notice it. Circuit City, Sharper Image, Warner Bro store, KB toy store, Walden Books. The collapse in 2008 made this transition happen faster than it was suppose to.

I still don't understand how anybody could categorize the first half of 2011 and all of 2010 as distinctly "2000s" as opposed to the decade we're in now.  Were the overall societal changes that occurred in 2011 and 2012 really more monumental than those from around the 2008/2009 school year?  iPhones were already pretty popular by 2010, and the overall tone of popular culture had already shifted pretty dramatically from the Bush '43/War on Terror era.

I still don't understand how anybody could categorize the first half of 2011 and all of 2010 as distinctly "2000s" as opposed to the decade we're in now.  Were the overall societal changes that occurred in 2011 and 2012 really more monumental than those from around the 2008/2009 school year?  iPhones were already pretty popular by 2010, and the overall tone of popular culture had already shifted pretty dramatically from the Bush '43/War on Terror era.


What's confusing to me is that when we think of when think of the last year of the core 2000's, which is 2007, then by the time we get to 2008, we consider that as the start of early 2010's culture, instead of the start of late 2000's, however, go back to the last year of the core 90's, which is 1996, then the next year we pick 1997 as the start of the late 90's, but not early 2000's because that didn't start until 2001, while the core 2000's started in 2004. See with the 2010's we pick 2013 as the first year of the core 2000's, or mid 2010's, but then where would the late 2000's culture be? I wonder if the core 90's stands for mid 90's culture only, or both early/mid 90's culture. While the core 2000's stands for mid 2000's culture only, or both mid/late 2000's culture?

What's confusing to me is that when we think of when think of the last year of the core 2000's, which is 2007, then by the time we get to 2008, we consider that as the start of early 2010's culture, instead of the start of late 2000's, however, go back to the last year of the core 90's, which is 1996, then the next year we pick 1997 as the start of the late 90's, but not early 2000's because that didn't start until 2001, while the core 2000's started in 2004. See with the 2010's we pick 2013 as the first year of the core 2000's, or mid 2010's, but then where would the late 2000's culture be? I wonder if the core 90's stands for mid 90's culture only, or both early/mid 90's culture. While the core 2000's stands for mid 2000's culture only, or both mid/late 2000's culture?


core is mid years only

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Raw was sheesh until late 2004  (RA era)


I definitely agree.

malls were packed in 2006, it seemed that was the last year before mall culture died


What's mall culture?

Nah, Raw became better than SD when Benoit joined after the Royal Rumble.


It became the A show.

What's mall culture?


emo teens hanging at the mall, and just mainly highschool kids
needing a place to all group up after school.
If you went to a mall in late 2005- 2006 it would look like this

http://c1.staticflickr.com/1/71/177804317_bbfbe330a3_n.jpg


https://farm1.staticflickr.com/82/212049547_4527700e20.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3263/2654221760_5d35117bb5.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/25/43998411_dd2fadb059.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/122/296936192_7d5f6b8377.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1072/1323513132_19d138bc29.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/20/71704428_cf77e895ca.jpg

What's confusing to me is that when we think of when think of the last year of the core 2000's, which is 2007, then by the time we get to 2008, we consider that as the start of early 2010's culture, instead of the start of late 2000's, however, go back to the last year of the core 90's, which is 1996, then the next year we pick 1997 as the start of the late 90's, but not early 2000's because that didn't start until 2001, while the core 2000's started in 2004. See with the 2010's we pick 2013 as the first year of the core 2000's, or mid 2010's, but then where would the late 2000's culture be? I wonder if the core 90's stands for mid 90's culture only, or both early/mid 90's culture. While the core 2000's stands for mid 2000's culture only, or both mid/late 2000's culture?


The late '00s commonly gets lumped in with the '10s on this board.  Older members seem more apt to do so than younger members.

I think a lot of it will depend on how the rest of the decade plays out, but by the time we get to 2020, most people may be in agreement that the recession era (2008-11) fits in more with the '00s than it does the '10s.  Time will tell.

emo teens hanging at the mall, and just mainly highschool kids
needing a place to all group up after school.
If you went to a mall in late 2005- 2006 it would look like this

http://c1.staticflickr.com/1/71/177804317_bbfbe330a3_n.jpg


https://farm1.staticflickr.com/82/212049547_4527700e20.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3263/2654221760_5d35117bb5.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/25/43998411_dd2fadb059.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/122/296936192_7d5f6b8377.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1072/1323513132_19d138bc29.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/20/71704428_cf77e895ca.jpg


God I feel so old looking at these pictures of mall kids now compared to what malls used to be back then 30 years ago. :o

God I feel so old looking at these pictures of mall kids now compared to what malls used to be back then 30 years ago. :o


these arent mall kids now tho
this is from 2005-2006

I always saw 1980 babies as a mix bag when it came to which Generation they belong to. For instance they were kids during the mid-late 80's during the tail end of the X Era and the Vey Beginning of the Y Era. They were teens during the core 90's during the Gen X Era but graduated high school in 1998 during the Y Era and were in college during the Y Era as well. So it really all boils down on a person to person basis in all honesty. However if I had to make a divided line I guess those born in early-mid 1980 (aka Class of 98) would be the last of X while Late 1980 (Class of 99') would be the beginning of Y. But once again since they are on that borderline it's really up to how each person born around that identifies with better
I'm there but I identify more as late X though. I did follow music till maybe early 2008 though.

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+ This was the last full year that Lindsay Lohan was still really popular.  Her music career had already reached a dead end, and Just My Luck "marks the end of Lohan's teen queen phase" and earned the actress her first Razzie.  By 2007, with her legal problems dominating the press and the release of I Know Who Killed Me, one of the biggest flops of the decade, Lilo's fall from grace was official.
I guess Lindsay goes down the path of 80's Teen Star Molly Ringwald in that she is a successful Teen Movie Star but once she exits The "Teen Movie Genre" her career completely stalls. Of course the legal problems didn't do her any favors either as you mentioned.

2006 was the year Blu Ray led to the already declining Vhs formats death.rip vhs. It was also the last year Windows 98 and Windows Me had extended support. This was also i believe the last year Gameboy Advance and Gameboy Micro had a major game release. Though these were 2000s handhelds, these were the last major 2d gaming handhelds.

I guess Lindsay goes down the path of 80's Teen Star Molly Ringwald in that she is a successful Teen Movie Star but once she exits The "Teen Movie Genre" her career completely stalls. Of course the legal problems didn't do her any favors either as you mentioned.


Same applies for the 90s with Alicia Silverstone, whose film career evaporated after she starred as Batgirl in Batman & Robin.

Same applies for the 90s with Alicia Silverstone, whose film career evaporated after she starred as Batgirl in Batman & Robin.
Alicia was still popular in early 1999 because I remember seeing her(In January of 1999) on MTV but after Britney Spears became popular Alicia was totally forgotten about. I think Alicia's last big role was in 2005's "Beauty Shop" with Queen Latifah in the movie.

Alicia was still popular in early 1999 because I remember seeing her(In January of 1999) on MTV but after Britney Spears became popular Alicia was totally forgotten about. I think Alicia's last big role was in 2005's "Beauty Shop" with Queen Latifah in the movie.


Her heyday was definitely the mid-90s Clueless era, though. People were already far more into Sarah Michelle Gellar by late 1997, once Buffy the Vanpire Slayer premiered on television.  Not to mention, Silverstone didn't even reprise her iconic role as Cher for the Clueless TV series.

Here were a few more changes, from the first half...
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http://cp91279.biography.com/BRAND_BIO_BSFC_155546_SF_2997_005_20140207_V1_HD_768x432-16x9.jpg 

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/news/060710a/charles_gibson.jpg

http://cdn2-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2013/04/Ebert-and-Roeper.jpg

http://www.toledoblade.com/image/2015/05/29/800x_b1_cCM_z_cT/Bob-Schieffer-CBS-News-retirement.jpg

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/ap/nykw10212052115.grid-6x2.jpg

To the second half....
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http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/files/original/GMA_11.9.jpg

http://cache.reelz.com/assets/content/repFrame/33992/atmovies_ironman02.jpg

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-05/258594800-18122558.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/World-news_charles-gibson.jpg

http://sav-cdn.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/superphoto/11932660.jpg


Roger Goodell....  >:( >:( >:( >:(

2006 was the year Blu Ray led to the already declining Vhs formats death.rip vhs. It was also the last year Windows 98 and Windows Me had extended support. This was also i believe the last year Gameboy Advance and Gameboy Micro had a major game release. Though these were 2000s handhelds, these were the last major 2d gaming handhelds.


lol hd dvd was poverty

emo teens hanging at the mall, and just mainly highschool kids
needing a place to all group up after school.
If you went to a mall in late 2005- 2006 it would look like this

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OMG The nostalgia  :D :D :D

2006 was the year Blu Ray led to the already declining Vhs formats death.rip vhs. It was also the last year Windows 98 and Windows Me had extended support. This was also i believe the last year Gameboy Advance and Gameboy Micro had a major game release. Though these were 2000s handhelds, these were the last major 2d gaming handhelds.


Yeah I agree! Everybody seems to forget that the Gameboy brand was still very prominent in the mid 2000's, despite the DS already being out. I vividly remember playing my Gameboy Advance in the Summer of 2005 & 2006, some of my favorite games being Super Mario Advance 4 (based on Super Mario Bros 3.) and Donkey Kong Country 3. I eventually got a DS Lite in August of 2006 and that was around when I noticed more kids my age playing with the DS rather than the GBA

late 2006 screams this

http://prochefblog.com/public_pics/vtwin/pillion/whale_tail_005.jpg


Man I loved the slutty fashion back then. As a horny 16 year old I wish I got my dick wet back then.

Yeah I agree! Everybody seems to forget that the Gameboy brand was still very prominent in the mid 2000's, despite the DS already being out. I vividly remember playing my Gameboy Advance in the Summer of 2005 & 2006, some of my favorite games being Super Mario Advance 4 (based on Super Mario Bros 3.) and Donkey Kong Country 3. I eventually got a DS Lite in August of 2006 and that was around when I noticed more kids my age playing with the DS rather than the GBA


nah DS took over in 2004

nah DS took over in 2004


The Game Boy Advance was still relevant for about another year after the DS came out, especially with Pokemon Fire Red & Leaf Green, Pokemon Emerald, and Donkey Kong Country 2 & 3 GBA.  Both handhelds had roughly equal popularity during the 2004/2005 school year.

nah DS took over in 2004


Nahhh, the original DS debuted in November 2004, that's the first 10 months of 2004 without the Nintendo DS, when the Gameboy Advance SP had already came out in 2003. Gameboy Advance was still relevant throughout all of 2004 and 2005. Plus, the Nintendo DS didn't start having big titles until late 2005 and 2006. It wasn't until maybe Mario Kart DS and a few others debuted around mid/late 2005ish when everybody started getting interested in more DS games. By 2006 I could see the Nintendo DS clearly being more popular than the Gameboy Advance. So 2004 was still clearly a Gameboy Advance year. 2005 was equally Gameboy Advance and Nintendo DS in popularity. I already told you about 2006.

Yeah I agree! Everybody seems to forget that the Gameboy brand was still very prominent in the mid 2000's, despite the DS already being out. I vividly remember playing my Gameboy Advance in the Summer of 2005 & 2006, some of my favorite games being Super Mario Advance 4 (based on Super Mario Bros 3.) and Donkey Kong Country 3. I eventually got a DS Lite in August of 2006 and that was around when I noticed more kids my age playing with the DS rather than the GBA


Yeah, from my experience, I'd say that the absolute peak years of the Nintendo DS were definitely 2006 or 2007, or the 2005-2006 school year to the 2007-2008 school year.

Yeah, from my experience, I'd say that the absolute peak years of the Nintendo DS were definitely 2006 or 2007, or the 2005-2006 school year to the 2007-2008 school year.


Yeah I agree with this. Especially the 2007-2008 school year, that was the peak from what I remember

It seems a lot of people forgot about the Gameboy SP. It stayed in 2004, but it was still a hype worthy handheld.

As far as the late 2006 shift, I didn't notice it.

Yeah I agree with this. Especially the 2007-2008 school year, that was the peak from what I remember


2006-2007 school year would probably be more of the peak IMO. That's when Mario Kart DS and New Super Mario Bros were in its prime. By the 2007-2008 school year more people had gotten the Wii, and Super Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart Wii were big titles that shifted it over a little bit.

2006-2007 school year would probably be more of the peak IMO. That's when Mario Kart DS and New Super Mario Bros were in its prime. By the 2007-2008 school year more people had gotten the Wii, and Super Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart Wii were big titles that shifted it over a little bit.


2006-2007 was pretty good transition tho

bumping this for  sonic2005

Now, I'm *not* saying that 2004-2006 are Y2K era, because they're not. But I would agree with this thread, that late 2006 is when the influences and the *remnants* of the Y2K era were washed away.

Last big year for sixth generation gaming (PS2/GCN/Xbox). After this, those consoles kinda faded into the background.
Last year before the economy started crashing.
Last year of the iPod being a huge status symbol (replaced by the iPhone).
AOL dropped their full name "America Online", stopped shipping floppy disks to customers, and saw a huge downturn in subscribers.
"Ask Jeeves" was rebranded to "Ask.com".
PRISM program hadn't started, Internet wasn't yet monitored by the NSA.
Y2K era shows like That '70s Show, Charmed, Malcolm in the Middle, The West Wing, Alias, Will & Grace, Everwood, Bernie Mac Show said their farewells.
Last year of MNF on ABC and original ABC sports
Last year of WWE Raw and Smackdown's logos and entrances
Last year with Paul Tagliabue as NFL commissioner
Probably the year where anime such as Dragon ball z and Pokemon ended their "first wave" of popularity
The WB/UPN became The CW
Roger Ebert left At the Movies
Pluto stopped being a planet
ABC Family stopped being just being family orientated
End of old style NBA on ABC


Question for Jordan: did you cry when you saw all these x-treme things disappear forever? :\'( I know the "real, wussy 00s" became the life of the party by 2003-2004, but late 2006 was like when the Y2K era stopped even standing in the corner at parties drinking beer, and just left the house altogether. ;D

Now, I'm *not* saying that 2004-2006 are Y2K era, because they're not. But I would agree with this thread, that late 2006 is when the influences and the *remnants* of the Y2K era were washed away.

Last big year for sixth generation gaming (PS2/GCN/Xbox). After this, those consoles kinda faded into the background.
Last year before the economy started crashing.
Last year of the iPod being a huge status symbol (replaced by the iPhone).
AOL dropped their full name "America Online", stopped shipping floppy disks to customers, and saw a huge downturn in subscribers.
"Ask Jeeves" was rebranded to "Ask.com".
PRISM program hadn't started, Internet wasn't yet monitored by the NSA.
Y2K era shows like That '70s Show, Charmed, Malcolm in the Middle, The West Wing, Alias, Will & Grace, Everwood, Bernie Mac Show said their farewells.
Last year of MNF on ABC and original ABC sports
Last year of WWE Raw and Smackdown's logos and entrances
Last year with Paul Tagliabue as NFL commissioner
Probably the year where anime such as Dragon ball z and Pokemon ended their "first wave" of popularity
The WB/UPN became The CW
Roger Ebert left At the Movies
Pluto stopped being a planet
ABC Family stopped being just being family orientated
End of old style NBA on ABC


I see most of those as just early 2000s culture, although some, like Roger Ebert on At the Movies, really aren't confined to a single sub-period. I'll accept early 2000s things as "late Y2K" (in the same way new stuff from late 1996 to mid-1998 is "early Y2K"), but just because something came out at the start of the cultural 2000s doesn't make it more Y2K than just classic 2000s. The PlayStation 2 and The Wire, for example, were pretty significant for the whole decade. Stuff like Yu-Gi-Oh!, Lizzie McGuire, Game Boy Advance, and post-9/11 patriotism (as opposed to Iraq War backlash), were really only significant during the early 2000s and had declined by the time the mid-2000s began.

That said, there were a fair amount of late 90s shows that ended with the mid-2000s. In addition to the ones you mentioned, there were also the conclusions of 7th Heaven, Stargate SG-1, Everybody Loves Raymond, and The Crocodile Hunter (R.I.P., Steve Irwin).

I'd say post-9/11 patriotism lasted from about 2001-2004, and Iraq War backlash was from 2004-2008.

Already by the 2004 election, many people were mocking Bush, and his public image as "a fool" had set in. My grandma even sent me this video during the election:
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(I know you're going to say "But the upload date says 2006", so I'll clarify: I saw the video on another site before this, StupidVideos maybe?)

The PlayStation 2 and The Wire, for example, were pretty significant for the whole decade.

The PS2 basically "died" in 2007 I think. After that, it became a secondhand option for gamers who were too poor to afford 7th gen consoles, before Sony "officially" discontinued it in 2013.

I think all of the 6th gen consoles had their last "big" years in 2006, even if they hadn't been discontinued yet.

The PS2 basically "died" in 2007 I think. After that, it became a secondhand option for gamers who were too poor to afford 7th gen consoles, before Sony "officially" discontinued it in 2013.

A lot of people still played with their PS2's during the late 2000s, though. Despite a lot of significant titles from 2007, the PS3 was slow out the gates, due to is outrageous price and, so far, a lack of compelling exclusives. Like the PS1 and NES, a lot of games continued to be released on the PS2, even after the next system had hit shelves. The Madden franchise, for example, continued to release ports for the PS2, and the PS2 remained the standard platform for the main series of Dance Dance Revolution games all the way through 2010 (although Hottest Party for Wii was also particularly successful during the late 2000s). There's a reason the PS2 was still available for retail until the beginning of 2013, unlike the GameCube and original XBOX, both of which were discontinued in 2007.

This video from late 2007 showcases pretty accurately how a lot of gamers felt about the PS3 back when it was still brand new:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8R5Rp09pxc

Now, I'm *not* saying that 2004-2006 are Y2K era, because they're not. But I would agree with this thread, that late 2006 is when the influences and the *remnants* of the Y2K era were washed away.

Last big year for sixth generation gaming (PS2/GCN/Xbox). After this, those consoles kinda faded into the background.
Last year before the economy started crashing.
Last year of the iPod being a huge status symbol (replaced by the iPhone).
AOL dropped their full name "America Online", stopped shipping floppy disks to customers, and saw a huge downturn in subscribers.
"Ask Jeeves" was rebranded to "Ask.com".
PRISM program hadn't started, Internet wasn't yet monitored by the NSA.
Y2K era shows like That '70s Show, Charmed, Malcolm in the Middle, The West Wing, Alias, Will & Grace, Everwood, Bernie Mac Show said their farewells.
Last year of MNF on ABC and original ABC sports
Last year of WWE Raw and Smackdown's logos and entrances
Last year with Paul Tagliabue as NFL commissioner
Probably the year where anime such as Dragon ball z and Pokemon ended their "first wave" of popularity
The WB/UPN became The CW
Roger Ebert left At the Movies
Pluto stopped being a planet
ABC Family stopped being just being family orientated
End of old style NBA on ABC


Question for Jordan: did you cry when you saw all these x-treme things disappear forever? :\'( I know the "real, wussy 00s" became the life of the party by 2003-2004, but late 2006 was like when the Y2K era stopped even standing in the corner at parties drinking beer, and just left the house altogether. ;D


I was way past jaded in 2006 (post-Warped 2005 times, man... :\'() so I didn't really notice anymore changes since 2004-ish but I was pretty upset when shows like Malcolm in the Middle went off the air. One thing is I wouldn't call the iPod of the Xtreme! times (despite existing then) since it didn't catch on and become some status symbol until 2004 (the wussy real 2000s). The mighty Discman, on the other hand, was done by 2004. R.I.P. Discman...

I'm curious: what happened with the Warped Tour 2005 that was so bad? Was it when "wussy emo bands" started performing more than the fun, wacky Y2K ones?

Also, it's been a while since I watched Malcolm in the middle, so I don't remember this exactly, but did they still keep the Y2K-era props (PS2, N64, frosted tips, Discman, etc.) during the 2004-2006 seasons?

Also, it's been a while since I watched Malcolm in the middle, so I don't remember this exactly, but did they still keep the Y2K-era props (PS2, N64, frosted tips, Discman, etc.) during the 2004-2006 seasons?


The Nintendo 64 was discontinued in 2003 and had almost no new games after the release of the GameCube. The PS1 was still on sale until 2006 and continued to receive ports for a lot of franchises even after the PS2 came out. Discmans were declining but still somewhat relevant in the mid-2000s, as the iPod did not peak until the late 2000s. Having gone through my middle school yearbooks representing the period from September 2004 to June 2007, I can say that frosted tips were actually still very common during the 2004-2005 school year, but were basically gone by the 2005-2006 school year. Part of this could be due to middle schoolers adopting newer general trends a bit slower than high school and college students (social media and touchscreen phones are one major example of this), as well as the fact that a place like San Diego is more likely to foster frosted tip hairstyles than other parts of the Western world, but it definitely still counts for something.

I'm curious: what happened with the Warped Tour 2005 that was so bad? Was it when "wussy emo bands" started performing more than the fun, wacky Y2K ones?


Yeah. Warped Tour 1996-2002 was probably the peak of the Warped Tour era to most people. Both goofy mid-90's style Skate Punk bands (during the entire warped peak) and wacky 1998-2002 style Pop Punk bands (from 1998-2002). Frosted tips, dickies, spiky hair, chain wallets etc. Funny thing is, during the 1998-2002 warped tours, there were also a TON of Nu Metal bands because it was so huge with young kids of the time. A lot of them would pick fights with the Pop Punk kids and vice versa. I think the decline was roughly around 2003-2005. 2003 wasn't bad but it was very bland and had an uneventful lineup and this just continued on through the next few years. I dunno why I didn't quit at 2004 because that and 2005 were the same thing but when I got to 2005, I looked around and saw the neo-faux-emo kids who looked exactly like Justin Pearson and decided "this sh!t sucks. I'm outta here."


Also, it's been a while since I watched Malcolm in the middle, so I don't remember this exactly, but did they still keep the Y2K-era props (PS2, N64, frosted tips, Discman, etc.) during the 2004-2006 seasons?


It did! That's why I always say it was a late 90's/early 00's nostalgia show.

Would you agree with my analogy, that while the "wussy 00s" became the life of the party in 2004, late 2006 is when the Y2K stopped hanging out in the corner and just left the party altogether? ;D

Would you agree with my analogy, that while the "wussy 00s" became the life of the party in 2004, late 2006 is when the Y2K stopped hanging out in the corner and just left the party altogether? ;D


Yeah, maybe as a very small afterthought. The only cool guy at a party full of lame real 00's wusses. ;D

Adding to  theme of everything changing in  2006, I'd  like to post this graph of  AOL  subscribers.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Aol_subscribers_Q201-Q407.png

I've always wondered why they just suddenly cratered in Spring 2006. ???

Adding to  theme of everything changing in  2006, I'd  like to post this graph of  AOL  subscribers.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Aol_subscribers_Q201-Q407.png

I've always wondered why they just suddenly cratered in Spring 2006. ???


AOL, the most 90's/early 00's internet thing in existence, peaked in the mighty early 00's (of course) and just started dropping and dropping until  falling off the face of the earth in 2006. R.I.P. AOL... :\'(

All good things still ended in 2004, though.

Adding to  theme of everything changing in  2006, I'd  like to post this graph of  AOL  subscribers.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Aol_subscribers_Q201-Q407.png

I've always wondered why they just suddenly cratered in Spring 2006. ???


Oh wow. I didn't know AOL peaked in 2001-2002. Funny to see it decline by the mid '00s yet was really popular just a few years earlier.


AOL, the most 90's/early 00's internet thing in existence, peaked in the mighty early 00's (of course) and just started dropping and dropping until  falling off the face of the earth in 2006. R.I.P. AOL... :\'(

All good things still ended in 2004, though.


I do miss the AOL Dial Up surprisingly, but then again I always found the late 90's/early 00's internet days to be very interesting. AOL Dial Up, Web 1.0, Windows 98/2000, and the crazy early 00's internet fads. It's why I love the Wayback Machine as it allows me to see what the internet was like back then.

Oh wow. I didn't know AOL peaked in 2001-2002. Funny to see it decline by the mid '00s yet was really popular just a few years earlier.


I bet all the Sum 41 fans got into huge arguments with the KoRn fans in 2000-2002 during the peak of AOL while the emo kids would cry into their sweater vests and complain on MakeOutClub and LiveJournal about how mean everyone is to them. I wouldn't have it any other way.


I do miss the AOL Dial Up surprisingly, but then again I always found the late 90's/early 00's internet days to be very interesting. AOL Dial Up, Web 1.0, Windows 98/2000, and the crazy early 00's internet fads. It's why I love the Wayback Machine as it allows me to see what the internet was like back then. 



It was like a crazy adventure back then! All those gifs, Bonzi Buddy (the worst virus!!), abusive AOL chats, awful MakeOutClub clones (OnlyUndiesClub is probably the worst thing ever from the web 1.0 era), Rotten.com scares (probably the other worst thing), etc. I'm always on the Wayback Machine looking up stuff. It's a trip man! 

I bet all the Sum 41 fans got into huge arguments with the KoRn fans in 2000-2002 during the peak of AOL while the emo kids would cry into their sweater vests and complain on MakeOutClub and LiveJournal about how mean everyone is to them. I wouldn't have it any other way.


It was like a crazy adventure back then! All those gifs, Bonzi Buddy (the worst virus!!), abusive AOL chats, awful MakeOutClub clones (OnlyUndiesClub is probably the worst thing ever from the web 1.0 era), Rotten.com scares (probably the other worst thing), etc. I'm always on the Wayback Machine looking up stuff. It's a trip man!


Actually makes me upset that I wasn't on the internet very often in the early '00s. I find that era of the internet to be interesting. With the wayback machine I can look up old forums and see the latest trends. Thank god for the Wayback machine. We talk about early 00's things as these old/outdated things. While on Wayback machine I'd find old forum posts where people see them as pretty recent stuff. It's like going through a time machine on the internet. People insulting each other over Everquest or arguing over cartoons like Invader Zim or Sheep in the Big City. I even found an old forum post where everyone was talking about Toon Disney (back in its 1998-2002 days) and they were mentioning how they loved that the Disney Afternoon shows were on there. Heck I'd even see posters who're like "Man, I just scored myself some free AOL subscription!" which sounds very old fashion/outdated to me.  ;D

I remember when there was the end of the internet.
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Actually makes me upset that I wasn't on the internet very often in the early '00s. I find that era of the internet to be interesting. With the wayback machine I can look up old forums and see the latest trends. Thank god for the Wayback machine. We talk about early 00's things as these old/outdated things. While on Wayback machine I'd find old forum posts where people see them as pretty recent stuff. It's like going through a time machine on the internet. People insulting each other over Everquest or arguing over cartoons like Invader Zim or Sheep in the Big City. I even found an old forum post where everyone was talking about Toon Disney (back in its 1998-2002 days) and they were mentioning how they loved that the Disney Afternoon shows were on there. Heck I'd even see posters who're like "Man, I just scored myself some free AOL subscription!" which sounds very old fashion/outdated to me.  ;D


Oh man, it was funny. I remember all the Nu Metal jokes being made and how upset kids would be over the "defacing of the great Fred Durst" or the "total disrespect for the mighty KoRn" (mostly directed towards me), those proto-memes like Spase People or "Hello, My Future Girlfriend", stuff like GeoCities, Angelfire and browsing the web on NetScape or IE. Back when making fun of Emo kids meant making fun of their thick rimed glasses (with the lenses popped out, of course), gap jeans and sweater vests (i.e. Home Grown's You're Not Alone video and the Nothing Nice 2 Say web comic with Philip the Emo kid) or how people would write on their blogs: "every douchebag ever has stupid square jaws and frosted tips!!!" Social media was in it's infancy but the sites that existed were extremely cliquish, and probably the worst things anyone ever saw back then. Those AOL discs were... Man, they were everyone's dream. I remember it was basically like this for everyone: "AAAHHH YESSS... *sips some Pepsi Blue* SCORED MYSELF SOME SWEET AOL DISCS! NOW I CAN MESSAGE MY INTERNET GIRLFRIEND FROM NEW ZEALAND!"

The PS2 basically "died" in 2007 I think. After that, it became a secondhand option for gamers who were too poor to afford 7th gen consoles, before Sony "officially" discontinued it in 2013.

I think all of the 6th gen consoles had their last "big" years in 2006, even if they hadn't been discontinued yet.


and after that they brought in the PS3.

Even though things began changing in 2006, I still think 2007 could be seen as a "mid 2000s" year in some ways.

It was like a crazy adventure back then! All those gifs, Bonzi Buddy (the worst virus!!), abusive AOL chats, awful MakeOutClub clones (OnlyUndiesClub is probably the worst thing ever from the web 1.0 era), Rotten.com scares (probably the other worst thing), etc. I'm always on the Wayback Machine looking up stuff. It's a trip man!


Haha, wow, I never realized BonziBuddy was a piece of adware/spyware! That purple gorilla appeared on quite a few of the computers at my elementary school in the early 2000s, and frankly, I thought he was so cute! I wished I had him on my computer! It looked like having a pet on your computer, and this was the age of Pokémon, Tamagotchis, and Neopets! Too bad that cute violet ape was secretly a double agent working for the greedy executives at Bonzi Software, stealing information and serving as an advertisement.

Haha, wow, I never realized BonziBuddy was a piece of adware/spyware! That purple gorilla appeared on quite a few of the computers at my elementary school in the early 2000s, and frankly, I thought he was so cute! I wished I had him on my computer! It looked like having a pet on your computer, and this was the age of Pokémon, Tamagotchis, and Neopets! Too bad that cute violet ape was secretly a double agent working for the greedy executives at Bonzi Software, stealing information and serving as an advertisement.


I was surprised as well. Maybe that's why it only lasted from 1999-2004. I never would have guessed that it was Spyware/Trojan as I remember seeing it on tons of school computers back in the early '00s.

http://www.angelfire.com/apes/bonzi_buddy/bbabilities2.gif

Bonzi Buddy, why didn't you tell me you were evil?!  :\'( :(

Speaking of Bonzi Buddy I would love to have this.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/116619233_ba891ee590_o.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m56n10flrV1qze2pho1_500.gif

Bonzi Buddy will wreck your computer.

Haha, wow, I never realized BonziBuddy was a piece of adware/spyware! That purple gorilla appeared on quite a few of the computers at my elementary school in the early 2000s, and frankly, I thought he was so cute! I wished I had him on my computer! It looked like having a pet on your computer, and this was the age of Pokémon, Tamagotchis, and Neopets! Too bad that cute violet ape was secretly a double agent working for the greedy executives at Bonzi Software, stealing information and serving as an advertisement.


Haha, yep! It was a common trap for a lot of people. I remember the advertisements for how overtime he would learn from you a get better interactions but all he really did was make your computer extra slow, spy on you and steal your credit card info. Oh man... And he had the MS Sam voice, too! The horror!! :o I forgot how sneaky virus software was back then.


I was surprised as well. Maybe that's why it only lasted from 1999-2004. I never would have guessed that it was Spyware/Trojan as I remember seeing it on tons of school computers back in the early '00s.

http://www.angelfire.com/apes/bonzi_buddy/bbabilities2.gif

Bonzi Buddy, why didn't you tell me you were evil?!  :\'( :(

Speaking of Bonzi Buddy I would love to have this.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/38/116619233_ba891ee590_o.jpg


Haha, a Nokia would be so fitting with him.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m56n10flrV1qze2pho1_500.gif

Bonzi Buddy will wreck your computer.


Stealin' all the files... Judge Jeremy will see him in court! >:(

I know Jordan probably never watched these shows because he thought they were lame, but there's another thing that changed by late 2006.

In September 2006, Disney stopped showing their Y2K era sitcoms Lizzie mcguire and Even stevens (though they were reruns at this point), selling them off to WGN superstation, and newer shows like Hannah Montana and High school musical became the face of the channel.

Again, I know Jordan probably never watched these "lame" shows, ;D but they were a part of childhood for some members here, including Eazy e-man, mqg, and occarinafan.

I know Jordan probably never watched these shows because he thought they were lame, but there's another thing that changed by late 2006.

In September 2006, Disney stopped showing their Y2K era sitcoms Lizzie mcguire and Even stevens (though they were reruns at this point), selling them off to WGN superstation, and newer shows like Hannah Montana and High school musical became the face of the channel.

Again, I know Jordan probably never watched these "lame" shows, ;D but they were a part of childhood for some members here, including Eazy e-man, mqg, and occarinafan.


I probably heard of Lizzie McGuire in my childhood. There was a CD game that was on Windows XP (I think), that led me into knowing about the show. I didn't watch the episodes, but the purpose was alright.

I probably heard of Lizzie McGuire in my childhood. There was a CD game that was on Windows XP (I think), that led me into knowing about the show. I didn't watch the episodes, but the purpose was alright.


My younger sister was totally obsessed with that show back in the early 2000s! I forget when you were born, but she was born in late 1994 so she's just a bit older than Eric.

My younger sister was totally obsessed with that show back in the early 2000s! I forget when you were born, but she was born in late 1994 so she's just a bit older than Eric.


I was born in late 1999. December, to be exact.

I was born in late 1999. December, to be exact.


Oh wow, I didn't realize you were still so young! In that case, you probably would've been much more familiar with Hannah Montana than Lizzie McGuire!

I know Jordan probably never watched these shows because he thought they were lame, but there's another thing that changed by late 2006.

In September 2006, Disney stopped showing their Y2K era sitcoms Lizzie mcguire and Even stevens (though they were reruns at this point), selling them off to WGN superstation, and newer shows like Hannah Montana and High school musical became the face of the channel.

Again, I know Jordan probably never watched these "lame" shows, ;D but they were a part of childhood for some members here, including Eazy e-man, mqg, and occarinafan.


Disney Channel started to go downhill by 2006 to me. I enjoyed the Pre-Hannah Montana shows like That's So Raven, Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, Life with Derek, and Lizzie Mcguire. They were some pretty nice shows to me.

Oh wow, I didn't realize you were still so young! In that case, you probably would've been much more familiar with Hannah Montana than Lizzie McGuire!


Honestly, I haven't been watching Disney Channel regularly since 2007, because I was into Toon Disney at the time. But yeah, I haven't even watched the episodes, as I was only four years and two months old when the show ended.

Disney Channel started to go downhill by 2006 to me. I enjoyed the Pre-Hannah Montana shows like That's So Raven, Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, Life with Derek, and Lizzie Mcguire. They were some pretty nice shows to me.



Honestly, I haven't been watching Disney Channel regularly since 2007, because I was into Toon Disney at the time. But yeah, I haven't even watched the episodes, as I was only four years and two months old when the show ended.


I must be in the minority as I stopped watching Disney before the mid 2000s: however, I agree with both of you that the shows on there at the time were still great.

I was born in late 1999. December, to be exact.


I was born in March 1974.

I must be in the minority as I stopped watching Disney before the mid 2000s: however, I agree with both of you that the shows on there at the time were still great.


How come you stopped watching Disney before the mid 2000s?

How come you stopped watching Disney before the mid 2000s?
I was getting older and that the logo had changed making it the modern Disney channel (which would change later in 2014); however, there are two eras to the Modern DC. The first one was from 2002-2006 while the second is from 2006 to today. Despite not watching the channel much anymore by the mid 2000s, I would watch it occasionally with my younger cousins whenever they were watching it during the first modern era.

I was getting older and that the logo had changed making it the modern Disney channel (which would change later in 2014); however, there are two eras to the Modern DC. The first one was from 2002-2006 while the second is from 2006 to today. Despite not watching the channel much anymore by the mid 2000s, I would watch it occasionally with my younger cousins whenever they were watching it during the first modern era.


Okay then. I could probably tell since you were born in late 1995.

Okay then. I could probably tell since you were born in late 1995.
;D more like 1993.

;D more like 1993.


Oh, sorry. I've mistaken you for Eazy-EMan1995. He hasn't been on this forum for a while now.

Oh, sorry. I've mistaken you for Eazy-EMan1995. He hasn't been on this forum for a while now.

it's alright. As for Eric, he was on here Thursday. I think he's on here mostly during either the afternoon or the evening.

Disney Channel started to go downhill by 2006 to me. I enjoyed the Pre-Hannah Montana shows like That's So Raven, Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, Life with Derek, and Lizzie Mcguire. They were some pretty nice shows to me.


2006 was the LAST good year for Disney Channel but at the same time the downfall year. It's when a lot of the good shows were ending and the start trend of the bad shows premiering. 2006 was like half good and half bad for Disney Channel. It was on the cusp between the best years from 2002-2005 and the bad years from 2007-present. The good being season 4 of That's So Raven (my least favorite), season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody (which was awesome), Leroy & Stitch (Lilo & Stitch finale), the final episodes of Phil of the Future, season 2 of American Dragon Jake Long, season 2 of Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Kim Possible reruns, The Emperior's New School, etc. The bad being the start of Hannah Montana and The Replacements. Hannah Montana may have been only one bad sitcom in 2006, but it quickly affected Disney Channel's future in the long run, and as a result, look at how much of a disaster 2007-2010 was for Disney Channel. 2011-present it's only gotten worse ever since.

In September 2006, Disney stopped showing their Y2K era sitcoms Lizzie mcguire and Even stevens (though they were reruns at this point), selling them off to WGN superstation, and newer shows like Hannah Montana and High school musical became the face of the channel.


House of Mouse reruns were also removed from Disney Channel around the time too. Mickey Mouse Clubhouse premiered on Disney Channel (Playhouse Disney/Disney Junior) that same year which was considered as an insult to all of the previous Mickey Mouse TV shows. However, reruns of House of Mouse were still on Toon Disney regularly until Disney XD premiered in 2009.

2006 was the LAST good year for Disney Channel but at the same time the downfall year. It's when a lot of the good shows were ending and the start trend of the bad shows premiering. 2006 was like half good and half bad for Disney Channel. It was on the cusp between the best years from 2002-2005 and the bad years from 2007-present. The good being season 4 of That's So Raven (my least favorite), season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody (which was awesome), Leroy & Stitch (Lilo & Stitch finale), the final episodes of Phil of the Future, season 2 of American Dragon Jake Long, season 2 of Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Kim Possible reruns, The Emperior's New School, etc. The bad being the start of Hannah Montana and The Replacements. Hannah Montana may have been only one bad sitcom in 2006, but it quickly affected Disney Channel's future in the long run, and as a result, look at how much of a disaster 2007-2010 was for Disney Channel. 2011-present it's only gotten worse ever since.


Even as a mid-late 2000s kid, I just thought Disney Channel was boring after 2006 because they got rid of Lilo and Stitch: The Series, Suite Life of Zack and Cody, Brandy and Mr. Whiskers, and Kim Possible. It was f*cking amazing back before 2007 (even though I only watched it in the mid 2000s). After that, I just stopped watching Disney Channel regularly, because it was really boring with Hannah Montana being one of Disney's cash cows. Toon Disney was alright with Pucca, and Yin Yang Yo still airing until they ended in 2008/2009. It just made the mid '00s (to me) slightly better than the late '00s because of that.

Disney Channel started to go downhill by 2006 to me. I enjoyed the Pre-Hannah Montana shows like That's So Raven, Even Stevens, Phil of the Future, Life with Derek, and Lizzie Mcguire. They were some pretty nice shows to me.

Disney Channel decline RIGHT WHEN 2006 hit! It kinda changed overnight for me. and then in late 2006 I stopped watching regularly.

2006 was the LAST good year for Disney Channel but at the same time the downfall year. It's when a lot of the good shows were ending and the start trend of the bad shows premiering. 2006 was like half good and half bad for Disney Channel. It was on the cusp between the best years from 2002-2005 and the bad years from 2007-present. The good being season 4 of That's So Raven (my least favorite), season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody (which was awesome), Leroy & Stitch (Lilo & Stitch finale), the final episodes of Phil of the Future, season 2 of American Dragon Jake Long, season 2 of Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Kim Possible reruns, The Emperior's New School, etc. The bad being the start of Hannah Montana and The Replacements. Hannah Montana may have been only one bad sitcom in 2006, but it quickly affected Disney Channel's future in the long run, and as a result, look at how much of a disaster 2007-2010 was for Disney Channel. 2011-present it's only gotten worse ever since.

More like 2005 was the last REAL good one, cause I felt 06 thing started to fall apart. Hannah Montana and HSM premiering, the network REALLY started getting more teeny bopper at that point. Brandy and Mr Whiskers and Jake Long both jumped the shark during their second seasons and I thought emperors new school wasn't that great.  It left a not so good taste in my mouth.

I know Jordan probably never watched these shows because he thought they were lame, but there's another thing that changed by late 2006.

In September 2006, Disney stopped showing their Y2K era sitcoms Lizzie mcguire and Even stevens (though they were reruns at this point), selling them off to WGN superstation, and newer shows like Hannah Montana and High school musical became the face of the channel.

Again, I know Jordan probably never watched these "lame" shows, ;D but they were a part of childhood for some members here, including Eazy e-man, mqg, and occarinafan.


Isn't that Zac Afron dude in High School Musical? He's a dweeb.

And yeah, I never saw those shows but I like the promo photos because they're bright, colorful and remind me of the good ol' 1998-2002 days...

Disney Channel decline RIGHT WHEN 2006 hit! It kinda changed overnight for me. and then in late 2006 I stopped watching regularly.


2006 I just didn't care for Disney Channel as well. Ever since Hannah Montana I've noticed that Disney was having a new style in their sitcoms. It almost got to the point where all the Post-Hannah Montana shows started to feel very samey. The shows from 2006 onward didn't have the same vibe as the shows from 2000-2005. By 2006 I didn't care for Disney Channel, but 2006 was also the time that I stopped caring for Toon Disney as it was getting worse by that point. I didn't get back into Disney until 2009 with Disney XD.

2006 was the LAST good year for Disney Channel but at the same time the downfall year. It's when a lot of the good shows were ending and the start trend of the bad shows premiering. 2006 was like half good and half bad for Disney Channel. It was on the cusp between the best years from 2002-2005 and the bad years from 2007-present. The good being season 4 of That's So Raven (my least favorite), season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody (which was awesome), Leroy & Stitch (Lilo & Stitch finale), the final episodes of Phil of the Future, season 2 of American Dragon Jake Long, season 2 of Brandy & Mr. Whiskers, Kim Possible reruns, The Emperior's New School, etc. The bad being the start of Hannah Montana and The Replacements. Hannah Montana may have been only one bad sitcom in 2006, but it quickly affected Disney Channel's future in the long run, and as a result, look at how much of a disaster 2007-2010 was for Disney Channel. 2011-present it's only gotten worse ever since.

I remember you saying that show was a good a while back, but maybe you changed your mind since then.

I don't know what the show is about but The Replacements are a good Punk Rock band.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/The_Replacements_-_Sorry_Ma,_Forgot_to_Take_Out_the_Trash_cover.jpg

More like 2005 was the last REAL good one, cause I felt 06 thing started to fall apart. Hannah Montana and HSM premiering, the network REALLY started getting more teeny bopper at that point. Brandy and Mr Whiskers and Jake Long both jumped the shark during their second seasons and I thought emperors new school wasn't that great.  It left a not so good taste in my mouth.


Of course, 2005 was the last real good year, because 2005 is considered as in the peak years for Disney Channel just like 2002-2004, however, when I say 2006 was the last good year, I don't mean 2006 was a great year (it was the downfall year) I meant it was the last time it was watchable for the good shows that were still around. Just because Hannah Montana and HSM premiered throughout January-March 2006 didn't mean the whole channel completely died in one day, the entire year of 2006 was transitional for Disney Channel, and by the time 2007 hit the changes felt noticeable. I stopped watching Disney Channel around the same school year as you, early 2007 to be exact. The last episodes of American Dragon and Phineas & Ferb were the only shows I tuned into afterwards, but I was no longer a true Disney Channel watcher by then.

I agree with what you're saying though. My definition of good isn't the same definition as "great" or "best". A good year can be a mediocre year. 2005 for Disney Channel certainly wasn't mediocre, it was still great IMO along with 2002-2004. 2006 was a good year for the positive stuff leftover, but mediocre for the bad that started coming in, and it was the decline year. BTW, the only big flaw about American Dragon Jake Long season 2 was the animation change, but other than that I still tuned in for the story line, I was really excited to catch season 2 because I wanted to see how Rose would react to finding out Jake was the American Dragon and how she would handle it. Now when I think about it, the writing, story-line and action for season 2 was a lot better than season 1, it was just the animation that stunk that's all, and yeah, Emperor's New School wasn't that great for me either, but it was ok, not my favorite obviously.

I remember you saying that show was a good a while back, but maybe you changed your mind since then.


If I did, then I was lying to you. It may have been a typo or mistake. I found nothing special about the plot.

IDK if I listed this already, but another change in 2006 was that Pluto was redefined to no longer be a planet, but rather a dwarf planet.

IDK if I listed this already, but another change in 2006 was that Pluto was redefined to no longer be a planet, but rather a dwarf planet.


:\'( I remember this. I was furious! Those scientist bullies.

tbh, I think Pluto shouldn't really be a planet, nostalgia aside. Not only is it WAY smaller than the other 8, but its orbit around the sun is different from the rest of the planets.

tbh, I think Pluto shouldn't really be a planet, nostalgia aside. Not only is it WAY smaller than the other 8, but its orbit around the sun is different from the rest of the planets.
Well, obviously it's not a planet, but still. We still haven't been able to replace My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas. What do they teach at school now? My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nothing? Sad!  :\'(

Well, obviously it's not a planet, but still. We still haven't been able to replace My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pizzas. What do they teach at school now? My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nothing? Sad!  :\'(


2005: "Kids, Pluto is the 9th Planet"
2006: "Kids, Pluto isn't a Planet"

2005: "Kids, Pluto is the 9th Planet"
Since 2006: "Kids, Pluto isn't a Planet"


Ten years we haven't seen Pluto as a planet. Time has passed, even though I find 10 years to be a long time for me.

Ten years we haven't seen Pluto as a planet. Time has passed, even though I find 10 years to be a long time for me.


That's because 10 years IS a long time. I'll punch anyone who says that whatever happened 10 years ago can be seen as recent. 2006 certainly isn't like 2016.  Seemed like forever since Pluto lost it's "Planet Status". Now for the past 10 years it's been nothing more than this rock that is just floating in space. Lost, rejected, and lonely............oh well  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  We don't need no tiny faux-planet rocks messing up our precious solar system.

That's because 10 years IS a long time. I'll punch anyone who says that whatever happened 10 years ago can be seen as recent. 2006 certainly isn't like 2016.  Seemed like forever since Pluto lost it's "Planet Status". Now for the past 10 years it's been nothing more than this rock that is just floating in space. Lost, rejected, and lonely............oh well  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  We don't need no tiny faux-planet rocks messing up our precious solar system.


Being in Grade 9 Physics class and learning of Pluto's demise is still fresh in my mind. The pain, the hurt, the suffering.  :\'( I'm pretty sure I changed my MSN status message in solidarity with Pluto.

That's because 10 years IS a long time. I'll punch anyone who says that whatever happened 10 years ago can be seen as recent. 2006 certainly isn't like 2016.  Seemed like forever since Pluto lost it's "Planet Status". Now for the past 10 years it's been nothing more than this rock that is just floating in space. Lost, rejected, and lonely............oh well  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  We don't need no tiny faux-planet rocks messing up our precious solar system.


Well, there could be people who think that 10 years ago is a bit recent. *cough* old people *cough*

Being in Grade 9 Physics class and learning of Pluto's demise is still fresh in my mind. The pain, the hurt, the suffering.  :\'( I'm pretty sure I changed my MSN status message in solidarity with Pluto.


I didn't find out that Pluto was no longer considered a planet until sometime in 2007. Crazy how scientists can just claim and deny on what can be a planet and what can't. Wonder if we'll find another "planet" in this solar system.

I didn't find out that Pluto was no longer considered a planet until sometime in 2007. Crazy how scientists can just claim and deny on what can be a planet and what can't. Wonder if we'll find another "planet" in this solar system.
Haha, well, it's not really that crazy, the conference was actually about what defines a planet, and Pluto simply didn't meet most criteria.

According to some mathematical models, a Planet X exists, but it hasn't been found yet. I think that discovery was a while ago though, I have not kept up with it.

Haha, well, it's not really that crazy, the conference was actually about what defines a planet, and Pluto simply didn't meet most criteria.

According to some mathematical models, a Planet X exists, but it hasn't been found yet. I think that discovery was a while ago though, I have not kept up with it.


Wait wait wait...hold on! They define what  is considered a planet and that Pluto didn't fit the criteria? Pluto was considered a planet for years and it took up to 2006 for them to now realize that it wasn't a planet? What took so long? When did they come up with the ideas on what defines a planet? Why aren't my questions being answer?!

Planet X? Hasn't been found yet? Then how can tell if it's an actual planet or not? Was there a conference for this? Damn scientists.

Going off topic, while I do believe late 2006 marked a foreshadowing to some late 00s culture, I'd still say 2007 felt like a "mid 2000s" year (emo music, flip phones, snap rap, etc.). The economic crash didn't even happen until the very-end of that year.

2007 felt similar to 2006 to me. At least in my personal life anyways.

Going off topic, while I do believe late 2006 marked a foreshadowing to some late 00s culture, I'd still say 2007 felt like a "mid 2000s" year (emo music, flip phones, snap rap, etc.). The economic crash didn't even happen until the very-end of that year.


You're thinking core 2000s. 2007 is late 2000s, but core 2000s. Same with the first two thirds of 2008.

I first heard of the recession sometime late in the summer of 2008. We had an election here in Canada, and I thought the Prime Minister did a good job with the economy and he reduced sales tax, so I was okay with him winning again. I didn't discover financial meltdown until very late in the year, like maybe September. By October when the oil price crash happened (I remember the exact day, October 13, 2008), I knew sh*t had just hit the fan.

You're thinking core 2000s. 2007 is late 2000s, but core 2000s. Same with the first two thirds of 2008.

I first heard of the recession sometime late in the summer of 2008. We had an election here in Canada, and I thought the Prime Minister did a good job with the economy and he reduced sales tax, so I was okay with him winning again. I didn't discover financial meltdown until very late in the year, like maybe September. By October when the oil price crash happened (I remember the exact day, October 13, 2008), I knew sh*t had just hit the fan.


Most of us didn't hear about it until 2008. It happened in 2007, but in December of 2007. Out of all the previous recessions the late '00s one is considered the 2nd worst. The 1st worst is the Great Depressions since it lasted for an entire decade and not just 2.5 years.

Most of us didn't hear about it until 2008. It happened in 2007, but in December of 2007. Out of all the previous recessions the late '00s one is considered the 2nd worst. The 1st worst is the Great Depressions since it lasted for an entire decade and not just 2.5 years.


Great Depression actually consists of many recessions. There's the 1929 stock market crash, then the 1931-1933 recession, and then the 1938 recession. Then there was another recession in 1946 I believe, but it is not usually included.

Great Depression actually consists of many recessions. There's the 1929 stock market crash, then the 1931-1933 recession, and then the 1938 recession. Then there was another recession in 1946 I believe, but it is not usually included.


Usually they mention that the Great Depression takes place in the 1930s. Great Depression consist of many different things which is why is probably why they don't call it a normal recession like all the other. I'm just hoping that we don't run into another Great Depression.

Going off topic, while I do believe late 2006 marked a foreshadowing to some late 00s culture, I'd still say 2007 felt like a "mid 2000s" year (emo music, flip phones, snap rap, etc.). The economic crash didn't even happen until the very-end of that year.


Crash didnt happen til 2008

Crash didnt happen til 2008


Technically, the Great Recession had its origins in mid-2006, once the housing bubble busted, and late 2007 was the first time the market was showing more obvious signs of ailment. It's just that September 15, 2008 was the absolute crux of the Great Recession, since that was when you had the Lehman Bros. bailout, and from that point on, the unemployment rate began to really skyrocket.

Technically, the Great Recession had its origins in mid-2006, once the housing bubble busted, and late 2007 was the first time the market was showing more obvious signs of ailment. It's just that September 15, 2008 was the absolute crux of the Great Recession, since that was when you had the Lehman Bros. bailout, and from that point on, the unemployment rate began to really skyrocket.


It took a while for the housing market issues to start affecting the broader economy.  In 2006 and most of 2007, consumer spending remained strong, the stock market kept rising, and job growth remained steady, despite the issues in the banking sector.  That all changed in 2008.  The fundamentals of the Bush economy were probably the strongest in late 2005/early 2006 but it was always a house of cards.  The housing bubble was actually the only reason the U.S. economy was able to recover from the early 2000s recession so quickly, which could have and should have been much worse.  Greenspan basically kicked the can down the road and the result was the Great Recession.

I encourage everybody to watch the movie 'The Big Short.'  It's an eye opening account of exactly what happened that lead to the Great Recession.

I didn't think it would happen, but I'm starting to get nostalgic for 2006-2007 school year. The late 2006 shift in particular is fascinating, those final pre-Wii/PS3 days. First thing that comes to mind is...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Borat_ver2.jpg

I don't know why I'm getting nostalgic over such a terrible movie! He was all over the place in late 2006. You'd hear "Very nice!" in his accent at least ten times a day, and those two thumbs ups and crooked smile that people would give. One of my friends used to do the perfect Borat impersonation, it was gold. The whole personality  and humour of the movie just screams late 2000s.

this pic also rly did it in 4 me O_O; i used to type lyke this lmaoooo soo embarrassing xD xD

https://i.imgur.com/s1goWkm.jpg

Borat...terrible? Surely you jest!

It was a great movie in my opinion, with the possible exception of the... er, wrestling scene. ::)

Borat...terrible? Surely you jest!

It was a great movie in my opinion, with the possible exception of the... er, wrestling scene. ::)


Terrible as in hard to watch  ;D I remember trying to look away for the entire movie. And yes, that, era wrestling scene :o Dat ass.

edit: "terrifying" would be a better word.

Terrible as in hard to watch  ;D I remember trying to look away for the entire movie. And yes, that, era wrestling scene :o Dat ass.

edit: "terrifying" would be a better word.


Well, you certainly can't deny how controversial Borat was when it was released!

Well, you certainly can't deny how controversial Borat was when it was released!


You knew you'd made a huge mistake right at the opening scene

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You knew you'd made a huge mistake right at the opening scene

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;D

Y'know, Eric has mentioned this before, but there were certainly a lot of changes to pop culture in 1997 that almost mirror the ones from 2006!

That year, the mid-Gen Y kids' culture (fifth generation consoles, Tamagotchi, silver age Nick, Toonami, etc.), slowly but surely, began to creep in and take the place of early Y (Power Rangers, fourth gen consoles, golden age Nick, USA Cartoon express, etc.) culture.

Y'know, Eric has mentioned this before, but there were certainly a lot of changes to pop culture in 1997 that almost mirror the ones from 2006!

That year, the mid-Gen Y kids' culture (fifth generation consoles, Tamagotchi, silver age Nick, Toonami, etc.), slowly but surely, began to creep in and take the place of early Y (Power Rangers, fourth gen consoles, golden age Nick, USA Cartoon express, etc.) culture.


I suppose so. 2006 is basically the 2000s equivalent of 1997.

I suppose so. 2006 is basically the 2000s equivalent of 1997.

Yep.
and 2008 is kinda like the 2000s equivalent of 1999, in some ways. :) 

Yep.
and 2008 is kinda like the 2000s equivalent of 1999, in some ways. :)


2008 and early 2009 feel more like the 2000s equivalent of 1999. I don't know about mid-late 2009, because it's like the only time where people think it's like the new decade, but I'm not entirely sure.

Sprint buys out NEXTEL

That happened in 2005.

That happened in 2005.


This I could agree with. The moment that I saw the Sprint logo in the mid 2000s, it was the 2005 one. The 1987 logo just seemed way outdated, even for the early-mid 2000s.

I usually only get like 4 votes on these polls, but whatever.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10901657


November when the FLOPstation 3 came out and the balance of power shifted to GODtendo. https://github.com/bontscho/dota2-chat-emoticons/raw/master/assets/images/laugh.gif

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Oh man, I spent way too much of 2006-2008 on Gamespot System Wars lol.

I usually only get like 4 votes on these polls, but whatever.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10901657

Also, disagree with the OP that everything changed in late 2006. Things changed notably throughout ALL of 2006 (Malcolm in the Middle ended in early 06).


So, what other things did you think changed throughout most of 2006?

Not to get off topic but do any of you think something similar is happening in 2016?

Not to get off topic but do any of you think something similar is happening in 2016?


Um... no? Well aside from the conservative backlash from Obama, it's not really as bad as the backlashes for Bush when he was still president.

Eric already listed nearly all of them.


If you meant by this, then I could understand what you're saying.


Yup guys. 2006!!!!!!! The time is finally here, to discuss the final full year of my childhood!!!! This year was the end of the classic 00s. The modern 00s came as SOON as the fall of 2006 rolled around! Nelly Furtado and Timbaland changed the music scene. Music was SLOWLY becoming more poppy. Rock and Rap still sounded the same to me  as it did in the early 00s though.  Many things from early 00s came to an end such as the 6th gen of video gaming, tv shows like The West Wing, Malcolm in the Middle, the Bernie Mac Show, That's 70 Show, Will&Grace. MNF premiered on ESPN. Hannah Montana and HSM became the faces of Disney Channel. In politics the hatred for Bush REALLY started growing during the year!! Our brothers and sisters were losing the fight in Iraq. :\'(  RAW and Smackdown changed their logos. :(  Wii and XBOX 360 came out during the year. While I still played my PS2!! I got the original XBOX for Christmas of 2006 HELLA LATE, don't asky why!! ;D ;D ;D  It's the last console I associate with my childhood!! If I had gotten the Wii it would have been a different story!! ::)

Another thing about 2006 I realized. Naruto kinda overtook the Dragonball series as the most popular anime; at least here in Missouri.

Not to get off topic but do any of you think something similar is happening in 2016?

Politically yes! Culturally not so much..
2000s felt like it was changing more than the 10s. This has been the most consistent decade since the 80s.

Another thing about 2006 I realized. Naruto kinda overtook the Dragonball series as the most popular anime; at least here in Missouri.


I think it's because Naruto was really popular in the late 2000s.

Another thing about 2006 I realized. Naruto kinda overtook the Dragonball series as the most popular anime; at least here in Missouri.


This happened in 2005 in Canada I think.

It was like

1997-2003: Dragon Ball Z
2003/2004: Inyuyasha
2005-2008: Naruto
2008-2011: Bleach
2011+ One Piece

This happened in 2005 in Canada I think.

It was like

1997-2003: Dragon Ball Z
2003/2004: Inyuyasha
2005-2008: Naruto
2008-2011: Bleach
2011+ One Piece

Here in Missouri...
1998-2001: Sailor Moon and Pokemon
2001-2005: Dragon ball series(DB, DBZ, Gt)
2006-2009: Naruto
2009-2011: Bleach
2011-2014: One Piece
2014+ Dragonball once again

Here in Missouri...
1998-2001: Sailor Moon and Pokemon
2001-2005: Dragon ball series(DB, DBZ, Gt)
2006-2009: Naruto
2009-2011: Bleach
2011-2014: One Piece
2014+ Dragonball once again


As I remember it...

Spring 1999 - Summer 2001: Pokemon
Autumn 2001 - Spring 2002: Dragon Ball Z
Summer 2002 - Summer 2003: Yu-Gi-Oh!
Autumn 2003 - Summer 2005: Pokemon Advance (though this period was really stronger for anime-influenced western cartoons like Totally Spies!, Teen Titans, Code Lyoko, and the 2003 version of TMNT)
Autumn 2005 - Summer 2007: Naruto
Autumn 2007 - Summer 2008: Death Note

Here in Missouri...
1998-2001: Sailor Moon and Pokemon
2001-2005: Dragon ball series(DB, DBZ, Gt)
2006-2009: Naruto
2009-2011: Bleach
2011-2014: One Piece
2014+ Dragonball once again


Pretty much how it was from what I remember. Although I'd from 2001-2005 Yu Gi Oh was also pretty popular.

As I remember it...

Spring 1999 - Summer 2001: Pokemon
Autumn 2001 - Spring 2002: Dragon Ball Z
Summer 2002 - Summer 2003: Yu-Gi-Oh!
Autumn 2003 - Summer 2005: Pokemon Advance (though this period was really stronger for anime-influenced western cartoons like Totally Spies!, Teen Titans, Code Lyoko, and the 2003 version of TMNT)
Autumn 2005 - Summer 2007: Naruto
Autumn 2007 - Summer 2008: Death Note


Ah, I was thinking more along the lines of teen anime. I agree that Death Note was more popular than Naruto during late 2007/early 2008. You had to watch it online though :o There was also that cheesy movie live-action Japanese movie ;D

So crazy how Anime seems to have fallen off from it's golden age (in terms of popularity and pop cultural relevance) of the late 1990s-midish 2000s. Makes me wonder why it happened. Now I'm not much of an anime fan as I see it as a lesser form of animation (No offense to the people who do like anime), but I am curious on what happened. Before watching anime was a cool thing to do. Nowadays you'd get made fun of for it.

So crazy how Anime seems to have fallen off from it's golden age (in terms of popularity and pop cultural relevance) of the late 1990s-midish 2000s. Makes me wonder why it happened. Now I'm not much of an anime fan as I see it as a lesser form of animation (No offense to the people who do like anime), but I am curious on what happened. Before watching anime was a cool thing to do. Nowadays you'd get made fun of for it.


Hmm, where I live it's more popular than ever ;D Every new episode or manga release of One Piece makes huge splashes. There's also Attack of Titan which has been really popular for the past two years or so. But I'm majoring in Computer Science/Physics, so my circles are very nerdy.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot about Dragon Ball Super, that's also picking up in popularity.

Hmm, where I live it's more popular than ever ;D Every new episode or manga release of One Piece makes huge splashes. There's also Attack of Titan which has been really popular for the past two years or so. But I'm majoring in Computer Science/Physics, so my circles are very nerdy.


Nowadays I'm hearing more people talking about Steven Universe or Adventure Time rather than One Piece or Attack on Titan. Maybe it's just my living area.

Nowadays I'm hearing more people talking about Steven Universe or Adventure Time rather than One Piece or Attack on Titan. Maybe it's just my living area.


I think 2010 in general decentralized Japan as a primary point of interest in the West. I believe Adventure Time was the show that really killed anime as a mainstream force in animation, as it not only inspired several other hugely popular 2010s cartoons like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls, it marked a shift away from the darker and more realistic animation style of the 2000s and instead towards the colorful, simplistic, thin-lined aesthetic that has dominated the 2010s.

In addition to Adventure Time, South Korea overtook Japan as the popular East Asian country during the early 2010s. I distinctly remember that while other people I knew who designed simfiles for StepMania largely stepped j-pop in the mid and late 2000s, a larger number of them switched over to k-pop in 2010, even some of the biggest specialists in j-pop song choices. Girls Generation developed a cult following in the West far greater than any j-pop act could ever achieve aside from Kyu Sakamoto in 1963. Then, of course, there was PSY, who not only had 2012's equivalent to "Macarena," but also "Gentleman" in 2013 and "Hangover" with Snoop Dogg in 2014.

I think 2010 in general decentralized Japan as a primary point of interest in the West. I believe Adventure Time was the show that really killed anime as a mainstream force in animation, as it not only inspired several other hugely popular 2010s cartoons like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls, it marked a shift away from the darker and more realistic animation style of the 2000s and instead towards the colorful, simplistic, thin-lined aesthetic that has dominated the 2010s.

In addition to Adventure Time, South Korea overtook Japan as the popular Wedt Asian country during the 2010s. I distinctly remember that while other people I knew who designed simfiles for StepMania largely stepped j-pop in the mid and late 2000s, a larger number of them switched over to k-pop in 2010, even some of the biggest specialists in j-pop song choices. Girls Generation developed a cult following in the West far greater than any j-pop act could ever achieve aside from Kyu Sakamoto in 1963. Then, of course, there was PSY, who not only had 2012's equivalent to "Macarena," but also "Gentleman" in 2013 and "Hangover" with Snoop Dogg in 2014.


Yeah, South Korea has been pretty popular in the animation industry and it does seem to be having more attention than before. In music, animation, video games, and in some cases comics. I find this to rather interesting.

In the 2010s there has been quite a shift in Animation. As you mentioned the the new style/trend is to make more colorful/stylized cartoons. There is also the trend of having a lot of cartoons with more mature-ish themes. Now the cartoons aren't dark in tone, but they do have their moments where the characters would face some pretty deep/mature themes every now and then. We're basically in ah age where the line between a "kiddy cartoon" and a "teen/adult cartoon" as blurred quite a bit. Heck most Adventure time fans are in their teens to 30s. Same for Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Regular Show etc. Cartoons that would have content that is mature-ish, but not just by having innuendos or pop cultural references. When shows like My Little Pony attract people who're in their teens to 30s then you know something has changed in the realm of animation.

Nowadays I'm hearing more people talking about Steven Universe or Adventure Time rather than One Piece or Attack on Titan. Maybe it's just my living area.


Ahh, probably country differences, since most people here still don't have Cartoon Network, and Teletoon doesn't air CN anymore, so we don't get Cartoon Network cartoons on basic cable anymore.

Ahh, probably country differences, since most people here still don't have Cartoon Network, and Teletoon doesn't air CN anymore, so we don't get Cartoon Network cartoons on basic cable anymore.


Considering that you're a Canadian, what was your favorite era of Teletoon?

Considering that you're a Canadian, what was your favorite era of Teletoon?


It's been great ever since I've been watching it. I don't know if it has "eras" ;D

Most of the Internet forums I've been to say it went downhill in 2006/2007 - like many other kids' networks. The logo changed, new shows began coming in, and one of the old hosts (Sugar) left.

I've never watched it, being an American, so I'm only quoting what others have said on it. :P


Well, they did air several Teletoon originated shows on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon in the United States. 6teen and Total Drama Island to name a couple.

Most of the Internet forums I've been to say it went downhill in 2006/2007 - like many other kids' networks. The logo changed, new shows began coming in, and one of the old hosts (Sugar) left.

I've never watched it, being an American, so I'm only quoting what others have said on it. :P


Sugar was YTV, specifically the Zone. She left briefly in 2003/2004, which is when I stopped watching The Zone, but a lot of my friends kept up with it, as you said, until 2006-2008ish (some watched it until 2011 lol). I stopped watching YTV altogether around 2007 after Drake & Josh ended.

edit: oh wait, I watched How to be Indie, that went on until 2011 ;D Yeah, I think 2011 was the last time I followed anything on YTV.

Teletoon has a lot of adult cartoons though, I know a lot of people who still watch it. I watched it until 2008/2009 or so, and only stopped because I started watching shows on my computer, rather than losing interest.

Sugar was YTV, specifically the Zone. She left briefly in 2003/2004, which is when I stopped watching The Zone, but a lot of my friends kept up with it, as you said, until 2006-2008ish (some watched it until 2011 lol). I stopped watching YTV altogether around 2007 after Drake & Josh ended.

edit: oh wait, I watched How to be Indie, that went on until 2011 ;D Yeah, I think 2011 was the last time I followed anything on YTV.

Teletoon has a lot of adult cartoons though, I know a lot of people who still watch it. I watched it until 2008/2009 or so, and only stopped because I started watching shows on my computer, rather than losing interest.


I thought it was more of a kids channel, but that could explain why it a few creepy intros in the late 90s such as this.

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Only thing I could notice were the consoles and the skinny jeans (the latter came out a bit later afaik).

As I remember it...

Spring 1999 - Summer 2001: Pokemon
Autumn 2001 - Spring 2002: Dragon Ball Z
Summer 2002 - Summer 2003: Yu-Gi-Oh!
Autumn 2003 - Summer 2005: Pokemon Advance (though this period was really stronger for anime-influenced western cartoons like Totally Spies!, Teen Titans, Code Lyoko, and the 2003 version of TMNT)
Autumn 2005 - Summer 2007: Naruto
Autumn 2007 - Summer 2008: Death Note


I was uneasy including kiddy anime like Pokemon and Yu gi oh....
I was going for legit anime.(Bebop, Yu Yu Hakusho, Gundam etc.)

I think 2010 in general decentralized Japan as a primary point of interest in the West. I believe Adventure Time was the show that really killed anime as a mainstream force in animation, as it not only inspired several other hugely popular 2010s cartoons like Steven Universe and Gravity Falls, it marked a shift away from the darker and more realistic animation style of the 2000s and instead towards the colorful, simplistic, thin-lined aesthetic that has dominated the 2010s.

In addition to Adventure Time, South Korea overtook Japan as the popular Wedt Asian country during the 2010s. I distinctly remember that while other people I knew who designed simfiles for StepMania largely stepped j-pop in the mid and late 2000s, a larger number of them switched over to k-pop in 2010, even some of the biggest specialists in j-pop song choices. Girls Generation developed a cult following in the West far greater than any j-pop act could ever achieve aside from Kyu Sakamoto in 1963. Then, of course, there was PSY, who not only had 2012's equivalent to "Macarena," but also "Gentleman" in 2013 and "Hangover" with Snoop Dogg in 2014.


Koreans are closer to American culture than the Japanese are. Japanese culture felt more unique and advanced.

So, in a few days it'll have been 10 years since this shift started taking place. :o


I felt like the 2006-07 school year was a bit like the 2005-06 school year, especially to me. It was the last year before I knew what YouTube was. It was also when The Sopranos, 7th Heaven, The O.C, and George Lopez ended.

I felt like the 2006-07 school year was a bit like the 2005-06 school year, especially to me. It was the last year before I knew what YouTube was. It was also when The Sopranos, 7th Heaven, The O.C, and George Lopez ended.


I was going to say the opposite, that the shift occurred mostly in 2005-06 school year. By late 2006 it was mostly over  :o

2005-06 was when the iPod, YouTube, Wikipedia, DS Lite took over, and the year Facebook went public and the Bush backlash went into full swing after the bungled Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Also, I see some TV shows like The Office being more definition for the late 2000s rather than the mid-2000s, although that's subjective.

There were still a few cherries (ew!) to add onto the cake, namely the launch of the 7th Gen consoles, the 2006 congressional races, and people buying their HDTVs for the holiday season.

I was going to say the opposite, that the shift occurred mostly in 2005-06 school year. By late 2006 it was mostly over  :o

2005-06 was when the iPod, YouTube, Wikipedia, DS Lite took over, and the year Facebook went public and the Bush backlash went into full swing after the bungled Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. Also, I see some TV shows like The Office being more definition for the late 2000s rather than the mid-2000s, although that's subjective.

There were still a few cherries (ew!) to add onto the cake, namely the launch of the 7th Gen consoles, the 2006 congressional races, and people buying their HDTVs for the holiday season.


The 2006-07 school year was just part 2 to that. By 2007, YouTube started to add international versions of the site. It didn't have any in 2006.

I was going to say the opposite, that the shift occurred mostly in 2005-06 school year. By late 2006 it was mostly over  :o

I disagree, I think that while the 2006-2007 school year was the first time we were more in the late 2000s than the mid-2000s, there were still a lot of lingering mid-2000s elements throughout. The Sopranos still had its last season, shows like Mad Men, Phineas & Furb, and The Big Bang Theory hadn't premiered yet, YouTube wasn't entirely established quite yet and still mostly catered to geeks with shows like Smosh, The Angry Nintendo Nerd, and Kajetokun's DBZ mashups, Tony Blair was still the British Prime Minister, the early signs of the Recession weren't that apparent yet, and the sixth generation of gaming was still alive to a fair degree. It was more in autumn 2007 that the transition had totally finished, especially with that period seeing an onslaught of groundbreaking seventh-generation video games and YouTube become viable to a much broader audience. Really, the only purely late 2000s culture in the 2006-2007 school year was the music, since thug rap died after "Ridin'", Timbaland's Renaissance was dominating the charts.

I disagree, I think that while the 2006-2007 school year was the first time we were more in the late 2000s than the mid-2000s, there were still a lot of lingering mid-2000s elements throughout. The Sopranos still had its last season, shows like Mad Men, Phineas & Furb, and The Big Bang Theory hadn't premiered yet, YouTube wasn't entirely established quite yet and still mostly catered to geeks with shows like Smosh, The Angry Nintendo Nerd, and Kajetokun's DBZ mashups, Tony Blair was still the British Prime Minister, the early signs of the Recession weren't that apparent yet, and the sixth generation of gaming was still alive to a fair degree. It was more in autumn 2007 that the transition had totally finished, especially with that period seeing an onslaught of groundbreaking seventh-generation video games and YouTube become viable to a much broader audience. Really, the only purely late 2000s culture in the 2006-2007 school year was the music, since thug rap died after "Ridin'", Timbaland's Renaissance was dominating the charts.


System sellers for the Wii and Xbox 360 were already available in late 2006 actually, with Gears of War dominating the sales charts and Wii Sports grabbing the media headlines (remember Wii Have A Problem with the Wiimote wrist straps?). If we're talking about 7th Gen completely supplanting 6th Gen, that didn't completely happen in 2007 either as evidenced by the PS2 outselling the PS3 during that holiday season, and it selling almost on par with the Xbox 360 (http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_December_2007). You're right that 7th Gen's most iconic franchises wouldn't release until 2007, but I would extended that down to winter/holiday season 2007, because Mario Galaxy, Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed didn't release until November.

As for YouTube, I didn't follow any particular channels, but I think the mainstream popularity of the website was already well established by the end of 2006 after YouTube (or "you") won the TIME Person of the Year in 2006 (published Dec. 26, 2006). By then it was already a cultural force to be reckoned with.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/2006/1101061225_400.jpg

It's true that some definining late 2000s shows like Mad Men had yet to air, but we still got a few in late 2006 such as Heroes, 30 Rock and Dexter, and a few definining late 2000s shows had starting airing the year before (e.g. The Office, How I Met Your Mother). Speaking of Phineas & Ferb, iconic late 2000s kid fads like High School Musical and Hannah Montana made their debut by then too.

As for YouTube, I didn't follow any particular channels, but I think the mainstream popularity of the website was already well established by the end of 2006 after YouTube (or "you") won the TIME Person of the Year in 2006 (published Dec. 26, 2006). By then it was already a cultural force to be reckoned with.

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/2006/1101061225_400.jpg


It might be true when YouTube was a cultural icon, but I think that was only for the United States and possibly Canada. I may be late when I discovered YouTube around the summer of 2007, but that was when most YouTubers started to get more prevalence and fame. I could remember the first times I've been on YouTube, mostly for Pucca clips, Mortal Kombat AMVs (especially Ed Edd n Eddy), Smosh videos, and logo videos. Good times, man.

System sellers for the Wii and Xbox 360 were already available in late 2006 actually, with Gears of War dominating the sales charts and Wii Sports grabbing the media headlines (remember Wii Have A Problem with the Wiimote wrist straps?). If we're talking about 7th Gen completely supplanting 6th Gen, that didn't completely happen in 2007 either as evidenced by the PS2 outselling the PS3 during that holiday season, and it selling almost on par with the Xbox 360 (http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_December_2007). You're right that 7th Gen's most iconic franchises wouldn't release until 2007, but I would extended that down to winter/holiday season 2007, because Mario Galaxy, Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed didn't release until November.

I think 2006/2007 is really to the 7th generation what 1991/1992 was to the 4th generation. It may have technically been the first school year that the new generation was dominant, but people hadn't totally given up on their older systems yet. You still had things like this coming out in 2006/2007:

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(I know this was also on the Wii, but fans prefer this version, not to mention it was originally only supposed to come out for the GameCube, anyway)

http://s.emuparadise.org/fup/up/150451-Dance_Dance_Revolution_SuperNOVA_(USA)-1460066157.jpg

http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/52/51346/god-of-war-ii-ps2-cover-front.jpg

It really was games like COD 4, BioShock, Assassin's Creed, Rock Band, Portal, Team Fortress 2, and Uncharted that defined the 7th generation of gaming, and those all came out around autumn 2007. November 2006 may have had the debuts of the PS3 and Wii, but I would personally argue that it was the following autumn that made the greatest impact on the gaming industry, considering the flood of iconic modern games and new franchises during that time. Even the Wii, in spite of scoring a home run with Wii Sports, saw its most revered games coming out during the 2007/2008 school year, including Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and Mario Kart Wii.

As for YouTube, I didn't follow any particular channels, but I think the mainstream popularity of the website was already well established by the end of 2006 after YouTube (or "you") won the TIME Person of the Year in 2006 (published Dec. 26, 2006). By then it was already a cultural force to be reckoned with.

How many YouTube channels or series can you name that were already significant in 2006? Besides the geekier ones like Smosh and the Angry Nintendo Nerd, YouTube wasn't really home to anything special until the latter half of 2007. Sure, the site was growing in popularity, but you must have been part of one of the more cutting-edge circle of friends to feel as though it had already flipped the world upside down by the end of 2006. I don't think I even specifically knew about YouTube until early 2007, when my friend introduced me to Kajetokun's videos, including the infamous Over 9000 one.

It's true that some definining late 2000s shows like Mad Men had yet to air, but we still got a few in late 2006 such as Heroes, 30 Rock and Dexter, and a few definining late 2000s shows had starting airing the year before (e.g. The Office, How I Met Your Mother). Speaking of Phineas & Ferb, iconic late 2000s kid fads like High School Musical and Hannah Montana made their debut by then too.

Well, it's because of those shows that 2006/2007 is more late 2000s in my eyes than mid, but that doesn't mean it was purely late 2000s the way you're describing it. The Sopranos still being on television, especially with the iconic finale airing in June 2007, is a pretty big deal, if you ask me.

How many YouTube channels or series can you name that were already significant in 2006? Besides the geekier ones like Smosh and the Angry Nintendo Nerd, YouTube wasn't really home to anything special until the latter half of 2007. Sure, the site was growing in popularity, but you must have been part of one of the more cutting-edge circle of friends to feel as though it had already flipped the world upside down by the end of 2006. I don't think I even specifically knew about YouTube until early 2007, when my friend introduced me to Kajetokun's videos, including the infamous Over 9000 one.


The YouTube of 2006 was quite a bit different than the YouTube of today. As you point out, there were not many mega-popular channels or "YouTube celebrities" back then. The early success of the site was largely driven by two things: heavily shared viral videos (Evolution of Dance, Star Wars Kid, Lazy Sunday, etc.), and the large number of free TV shows and movies that were available in the "Wild West" days before companies began to demand that YouTube crack down on illegal content.

I've been on YouTube almost since the very beginning. I visited the site for the first time in January 2006, and created my account in July 2006. Being the huge geek that I am, I was mostly fascinated back then by the large number of old commercials that the site already had. ;D

The YouTube of 2006 was quite a bit different than the YouTube of today. As you point out, there were not many mega-popular channels or "YouTube celebrities" back then. The early success of the site was largely driven by two things: heavily shared viral videos (Evolution of Dance, Star Wars Kid, Lazy Sunday, etc.), and the large number of free TV shows and movies that were available in the "Wild West" days before companies began to demand that YouTube crack down on illegal content.

I've been on YouTube almost since the very beginning. I visited the site for the first time in January 2006, and created my account in July 2006. Being the huge geek that I am, I was mostly fascinated back then by the large number of old commercials that the site already had. ;D

I've been watching YouTube since 2006, but I only got an account in 2009. This was one of the first videos I saw there:

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I've been watching YouTube since 2006, but I only got an account in 2009. This was one of the first videos I saw there:

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I've been on YouTube for about 10 years.

The YouTube of 2006 was quite a bit different than the YouTube of today. As you point out, there were not many mega-popular channels or "YouTube celebrities" back then. The early success of the site was largely driven by two things: heavily shared viral videos (Evolution of Dance, Star Wars Kid, Lazy Sunday, etc.), and the large number of free TV shows and movies that were available in the "Wild West" days before companies began to demand that YouTube crack down on illegal content.

I've been on YouTube almost since the very beginning. I visited the site for the first time in January 2006, and created my account in July 2006. Being the huge geek that I am, I was mostly fascinated back then by the large number of old commercials that the site already had. ;D


Same with me. I've been into old commercials from the 80s/early 90s around 2008/2009. That's what made YouTube look unique to me.

The YouTube of 2006 was quite a bit different than the YouTube of today. As you point out, there were not many mega-popular channels or "YouTube celebrities" back then. The early success of the site was largely driven by two things: heavily shared viral videos (Evolution of Dance, Star Wars Kid, Lazy Sunday, etc.), and the large number of free TV shows and movies that were available in the "Wild West" days before companies began to demand that YouTube crack down on illegal content.

I've been on YouTube almost since the very beginning. I visited the site for the first time in January 2006, and created my account in July 2006. Being the huge geek that I am, I was mostly fascinated back then by the large number of old commercials that the site already had. ;D


Old commercials? Back in 2006 we called that Youtube Poop Material.  ;D In all seriousness I also thought it was cool. I just liked how Youtube had a ton of variety. There weren't many huge trends. Nowadays it's all just gaming, but back then you could have a video about a guy who just stares at a mirror for 3 minutes yet it has 500,000+ views. No stories about people being sponsored by companies or copying ideas in order to gain success. I like the old days of Youtube. At time where Windows Movie Maker was considered as a cutting edge video editing program.

This song always reminds me of 2006-2009 Youtube days due to how often it was used.
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Old commercials? Back in 2006 we called that Youtube Poop Material.  ;D In all seriousness I also thought it was cool. I just liked how Youtube had a ton of variety. There weren't many huge trends. Nowadays it's all just gaming, but back then you could have a video about a guy who just stares at a mirror for 3 minutes yet it has 500,000+ views. No stories about people being sponsored by companies or copying ideas in order to gain success. I like the old days of Youtube. At time where Windows Movie Maker was considered as a cutting edge video editing program.

This song always reminds me of 2006-2009 Youtube days due to how often it was used.
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There was more than just old commercials that were YouTube Poop material. There was also Hotel Mario and Zelda CDi cutscenes, Mama Luigi, etc. Those were the good days for YouTube Poop, now it's just whatever they could get. I also remember when you could make a video, especially on Windows Movie Maker, one of them could somehow get thousands of views. I remember one time I made a video with just Speakonia and Windows Movie Maker, and it got over 10,000+ views. I was so amazed, since I thought I couldn't really be that popular on YT. Especially when this was from early 2010. Sadly, I accidentally deleted the video a year later, which lead to me making another YT account.

That's what I loved about YouTube back in the 2000s (and maybe early 2010s). You could get popular no matter what you did, and people could like it. Nowadays, it's just people making terrible gaming videos. Most of the underground communities are just terrible to look at, since they do nothing but obsess over what they like. I know I do the same with my YouTube videos, but not at a constant basis. Not to mention that the copyright system is painfully oblivious to know what the hell is going on, so your video might get taken down by some idiot. That's really sad for YouTube nowadays. They put in no creativity and just think they could be the next PewDiePie, Keemstar, LeafyIsHere, or whatever YouTuber they're into. It's just that awful.

I think 2006/2007 is really to the 7th generation what 1991/1992 was to the 4th generation.


Yeah, especially for Nintendo. The one difference was that there was a huge gap between Sega Genesis's release in 1989, and Super Nintendo's release in late 1991. The XBox 360 released in late 2005, one year before the PS3 and Wii.

Yeah, especially for Nintendo. The one difference was that there was a huge gap between Sega Genesis's release in 1989, and Super Nintendo's release in late 1991. The XBox 360 released in late 2005, one year before the PS3 and Wii.


The Genesis in 1989 was almost like the Atari 2600 in the late 70s. It may have existed and sold modestly well around its launch, but it didn't have many flagship titles until a bit later. In Atari's case, it was 1980's port of Space Invaders that launched the system into its peak, while the Genesis had Sonic the Hedgehog in mid-1991.

Yeah, especially for Nintendo. The one difference was that there was a huge gap between Sega Genesis's release in 1989, and Super Nintendo's release in late 1991. The XBox 360 released in late 2005, one year before the PS3 and Wii.


From what I remember, by 2006 7th generation was really big for handhelds (Nintendo DS & PSP) and by 2007 7th generation was really big for consoles (XBOX 360, Wii, PS3).

I think 2006/2007 is really to the 7th generation what 1991/1992 was to the 4th generation. It may have technically been the first school year that the new generation was dominant, but people hadn't totally given up on their older systems yet.

Yep. 2006-07 season was a transitional one for gaming; going from 6th to 7th. Just like 1991-92, 2001-02, and 2013-14.

Yep. 2006-07 season was a transitional one for gaming; going from 6th to 7th. Just like 1991-92, 2001-02, and 2013-14.


Don't forget 1996-97 (or 1997-98?), the transition from 4th to 5th gen. That one was huge, going from 2D side-scrolling to 3D.

Don't forget 1996-97 (or 1997-98?), the transition from 4th to 5th gen. That one was huge, going from 2D side-scrolling to 3D.


Well, you did have the Playstation and Sega Saturn, which had 3D graphics at the time. Although, it wasn't used until the N64 came out in late 1996.

Don't forget 1996-97 (or 1997-98?), the transition from 4th to 5th gen. That one was huge, going from 2D side-scrolling to 3D.


That transition's span was really more just the entire year of 1996. The Saturn and PS1 were already out by autumn 1995, and the latter was already selling respectably at its launch, despite still being heavily outmatched by the Super Nintendo at the time. Beginning with Christmas/Hanukah/Kwanzaa 1995, the PS1 started to gradually establish its groundbreaking technology and features to a broader audience, competing against late-life SNES games such as Super Mario RPG, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest, and Kirby Super Star.

The first half of 1997 was pretty much purely 5th-gen. Even though Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis were still sold in stores for a couple more years afterwards, the PlayStation's attractive use of CD's instead of cartridges meant that third-party developers migrated extremely quickly to the new system, as opposed to producing SNES and Genesis games after the fifth generation had already taken off. Donkey Kong Country 3, released in November 1996, was really the last title of the fourth generation of gaming to sell particularly well. There may have been a few sequels and sports game ports after that, but they were all heavily overshadowed by the much more accessible PS1 games. Sure, it was still early in the generation, but even in early in 1997, both the PS1 and Nintendo 64 had lots of classic games; the PS1 had Resident Evil, Tomb Raider, Crash Bandicoot, and lots of third-party games (it came out back in 1995, after all), while the N64 had Super Mario 64, Shadows of the Empire, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, Mario Kart 64, Wave Race 64, and Pilotwings 64.

1997-1998 is especially not a transitional for gaming, considering that by then you had GoldenEye 007, Final Fantasy VII, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Star Fox 64, Diddy Kong Racing, and DualShock controllers; the only way it could be considered fourth-gen in any way is on the handheld market, since the Game Boy Color wasn't out yet, but the original Game Boy was basically seen as dead by that point anyway.

In all fairness, I would definitely consider 1998-1999 the peak of the fifth generation, since in addition to older games like GoldenEye 007, Mario Kart 64, and Crash Bandicoot still being really popular, you also had the releases of Metal Gear Solid, Silent Hill, Ocarina of Time, Super Smash Bros., Banjo-Kazooie, and the Game Boy Color. Even then, however, that doesn't the fourth generation was already long dead by that point, at least in terms of market dominance (my mom still bought me a Wario's Woods SNES Cartridge during that school year, which I played at her 24 Hour Fitness' daycare, which had two SNES's all the way until the start of the sixth generation of gaming).

Most people like to say "The 90s didn't really end until 2004", but if this thread is any indication, they didn't really end until 2006! As mqg96 mentioned, 2006 was the big change year, NOT 2004. Wake up sheeple!!!!!

Really, the 90s began to die in late 1996 with the guttings of gangsta rap and real grunge, the subsequent decline of Gen-X as the primary culture force, and the shift towards an Internet-based society (I see desktop Internet as primarily a 2000s phenomenon, not a 90s one, since it didn't peak until the 2000s decade).

If 2003, let alone 2005, is still "90s," then the 2000s may as well not have even existed. People here only delay the end of the cultural 90s because the late 90s, especially 1999, are the only memories of the decade they have. In all frankness, 1999 is much more of a 2000s year culturally than a 90s one, not counting international politics. Popular culture had almost entirely a millennial bent, it was practically normal to have the Internet and no longer just a luxury, and the general aesthetics of media were significantly cleaner and glossier than it was just a few years prior, when the earthy, unrefined 90s themes were still in full force. South Park, Futurama, and Family Guy were the hip adult cartoons and not Beavis & Butthead or The Simpsons. Television lineups were now dominated by programs that lasted well into the second half of the 2000s, from Will & Grace, to That 70s Show, to King of Queens, to The Sopranos, and so forth. The Matrix and Star Wars Episode I were two of the biggest films to come out, both setting the stage for the general look and style of 2000s blockbusters. Girls were predominantly sporting bright, short clothes with simple textures and not as much the patchier, messier look that would have still been common in early 1997. Guys were looking much more like they were from Dawson's Creek than Seattle. So much about the world changed between 1996 and 1999 that I'd dare say the latter is culturally more similar to 2005 than it is to 1996, especially since the 2000s weren't tremendously changeful until around 2007, when technology hit several milestones at once.

The way I see the decline of the 90s:

1995 - The peak of 90s culture and the decade's quintessential year. Everything that constituted the legacy of the 90s was in full blossom this year, late 80s holdovers barely had any presence anymore, and the Internet was still very much in its introductory period, not its ubiquitous era.

1996 - The last year with a strong 90s spirit. Things start to slip during the last third, when Tupac Shakur passes on, 3D video games become standard, The Simpsons begins to dip in quality, and numerous shows/programs make their debut that would become household names within the coming few years.

1997 - The first giant step out of the 90s zeitgeist, but still with sizable 90s undertones. Millennial culture becomes prominent for the first time here, especially with the rise of teen pop, dirty south rap, shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer and South Park, and the continued growth of the Internet. Still has more of a Gen-X feel than a millennial one, but it's been neutered due to the collapse of gangsta rap, grunge, and eventually Beavis & Butthead. If you lived in the UK, you now had Tony Blair as Prime Minister, setting the stage for the conservative Labour politics of the 2000s.

1998 - This is the last year with any prominent semblance of true 90s culture. Alternative rock acts like the Smashing Pumpkins, Garbage, Natalie Merchant, Alanis Morissette, and so forth are still very popular; Seinfeld and good Simpsons are still on television for the last time, and designs can still be somewhat dingy. By this year, however, millennials are just becoming the leaders of popular culture.

1999 - With the exception of a few table scraps like Will Smith's Willennium album, dying shows like Boy Meets World, and the occasional melodic love ballad like "If I Could Turn Back the Hands of Time," this was very much Generation Y territory. Yeah, Bill Clinton was still President of the United States and 9/11 hadn't happened yet, but really just about everything that built the 2000s had fully established itself by this point. Sure, it evolved gradually, but I'm hesitant to believe things like Enema of the State, Fight Club, Britney Spears, Pokémon, and Eminem should be more associated with the decade of grunge, Clerks, Celine Dion, Power Rangers, pogs, and 2Pac than that of Avril Lavigne, The Dark Knight, Sin City, Lindsay Lohan, Naruto, and 50 Cent.

2000 - Pretty much the same deal as 1999, only with even less of the very little true 90s culture remaining.

2001 - By the time 9/11 hits, you really can't call it the 90s anymore. It's just not the same world anymore that it was for the vast majority of that decade.

2002-2006 - Anything "90s" about these years is pretty much just extensions of 1999.

I hate to get back into this decade debate but I can't resist. I'm a dick, I know. :P Anyways, I just think my idea is super neat-o. I've grown to like dividing things into greater eras rather than try to dissect whenever any decade ends. I see it like this:

1983/1984-1995 is the late 20th century era. A lot more modern than the years before it but definitely very old school. Many technological advancements make this time period a lot more convenient (i.e. the walkman, VCR's, portable camcorders personal computers, cable TV, microwaves, music videos) while still retaining an older feel (predominant use of analog tape, internet still very niche). Fashion during this time also had a lot of freedom and variety. Things were very unrestricted, loose fitting and casual compared to the decades before it. The quality was better too as brands still made their stuff in America. The cuts and fits really didn't change much from the 80's to the 90's; only the designs/colors did, in my opinion. Popular movies consisted of teen comedies (Sixteen Candles, Ferris Bueller, Clueless), stoner comedies (Bill and Ted, Dumb and Dumber, Encino Man), big action movies (Terminator 1&2, Aliens, True Lies, Die Hard) and Spielberg-inspired for-the-whole-family movies (Gremlins, Jumanji The Goonies). Music exploded and it was the greatest thing ever. Punk Rock, Heavy Metal, Hip Hop, Alt. Rock, Pop and many other genres all went through big changes; the whole era was a wasteland of culture and creativity in the music world. Music videos defined this time, too. When Michael Jackson's amazing Thriller videos were released and right before MTV went to crap with their reality shows, you had to have good music videos if you wanted success. It was absolutely important during this time. While of course the mid-late 80's + early-mid 90's were fairly different time periods that went through many changes (and some really, really big ones like the end of the Cold War), I'd say I could consider a good chunk of both decades to be one greater era in terms of way of life. This is my favorite era of all time.

1996/1997-somewhere between 2006 to 2008 would be the early 21st century. Pretty much a primitive version of today with it's mp3s, crappy distressed made in china clothing, internet, 3D video games, super digitally produced music, early streaming services, commonplace cell phones, MTV = Reality TV, digital film, American Pie, etc. I like roughly the first 7 years of this time but the rest kinda sucked. Even then, looking at it through a neutral point of view, I can see that it's a fairly cohesive era considering the advancements made throughout.

2007/2008-present (we'll see what 2017 brings) would be the current era. Things from the early 20th century were and continue to be "improved" upon and made even more convenient. Better/faster internet, super hero movies, cell phones more convenient, even worse/tackier clothing, better streaming services, etc. A lot of changes throughout this period but same story as the others: it has enough similarities for me to consider it one giant cohesive era. Blah. 8-P

Most people like to say "The 90s didn't really end until 2004", but if this thread is any indication, they didn't really end until 2006! As mqg96 mentioned, 2006 was the big change year, NOT 2004. Wake up sheeple!!!!!

Somebody should compile the2001's original post into a macro and put it on 9gag, Facebook, or Tumblr. Then the truth will be known. ;D


Spill iT. We have to spread the T. And we should spill two ☕s in one macro

The 1990s ended in 2006
The early 2000s ended in 2011

It is known. Spread the gospel! ;D

I hate to get back into this decade debate but I can't resist. I'm a dick, I know. :P Anyways, I just think my idea is super neat-o. I've grown to like dividing things into greater eras rather than try to dissect whenever any decade ends. I see it like this:

I like discussing decades' culture better than generations. At least discussing decade culture doesn't cause infighting usually.

I like discussing decades' culture better than generations. At least discussing decade culture doesn't cause infighting usually.


I dunno, it's usually just as bad. One person gives their opinion and another comes along with "the facts" and starts a big long argument that goes nowhere. Same with generations.

With all due respect, I agree with Infinity's post. It didn't felt a lot like the 90s when 1999 hit the scene.

By the way...

1999-2006 = classic cultural 2000s

2007-2010 = modern cultural 2000s

In my opinion, at least.

I dunno, it's usually just as bad. One person gives their opinion and another comes along with "the facts" and starts a big long argument that goes nowhere. Same with generations.


I notice it's usually me who brings in the facts.

http://yieldedmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/TheFacts.gif


Just kidding, in case it wasn't obvious. :o

I notice it's usually me who brings in the facts.

http://yieldedmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/TheFacts.gif


Just kidding, in case it wasn't obvious. :o



Yeah, you don't even know what Dale means yet you claim to know the facts. Step down, son. ::)

Going by the decade-insensitive era model that Jordan outlined, here's how I would outline world history since the end of World War II:

1946-1972: The mid-20th century. An age defined by the height of the Cold War, the rise of suburbs, the ascent of television, civil rights protests, and teenage rebellion against a supposedly utopian society. This period winds down in the early 70s with the decline of hippie culture, the end of Vietnam, the Watergate scandal, and the integration of newer customs in media as accepted norms and no longer the counterculture.

1973-1981: Sort of a prelude to the late 20th century, far removed from the social turbulence and rebellion of the mid-20th century, but before late 20th century technology started to really explode in the mainstream. New Hollywood, color television, casual fashion, and variable music were pretty much fully established, but computers, video games, home video, etc. were still in their infancy and hadn't really impacted everyday life yet.

1982-1996: The late 20th century. This is an age in which living room technology really explodes, synthesizers are standard in music, there are more than just three big television stations, walkmans are popular, neoliberalism takes over the world, summer blockbusters rule cinema for the first time, early personal computers enter the mainstream, and video games are a primary facet of entertainment, albeit still targeted primarily towards younger audiences.

1997-2006: The early digital age. Popular music begins to lead towards cruder, edgier styles and is even more synthesized/studio-produced than before. The Internet is finally a huge phenomenon, but more for actual websites and not just social media outlets. Middle Eastern terrorism is biggest global threat, especially after 9/11. DVD's slowly replace VHS. Video games are predominantly 3D and now catering just as much to adults as children. Windows computers are in their golden age, while Apple steadily climbs its way towards global domination. Fashion is a lot more casual and understated than in the past.

2007-present: The social media digital age. Geek culture becomes completely standard, not just a thriving underground scene. Video entertainment is experienced not just with HDTV, but also through online facets like YouTube and Netflix. The need for physical things sharply decreases as almost all major activities are done either online or with a mobile device. People are expected to use social media as means to communicate with their friends or to express themselves. Companies, events, and organizations usually promote themselves by listing their Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram urls. The gay rights movement gets an enormous kick that takes the world from a place in which it was still not that controversial to make "that's so gay" comments to one in which not only is same-sex marriage legal throughout most of the 1st world, you're completely ostracized for saying anything that may seem even mildly insensitive to the LGBT community, for worse or for better. Feminism and black civil rights also enter a new generation of protest. Politics are so polarized and so uncivilized that they make the age of Gingrich look like a yoga class by comparison.

We can't help it, can we? One drop of the drug of decadeology, generationology, or era-ology, and we're addicted! Illegal!!!  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(

We can't help it, can we? One drop of the drug of decadeology, generationology, or era-ology, and we're addicted! Illegal!!!  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(  >:(


At least talking about decades is better than generations. Seriously, I can't stand talking about arbitrary bullcrap like that.

At least talking about decades is better than generations. Seriously, I can't stand talking about arbitrary bullcrap like that.


Decade discussions are usually fascinating. For me though, decade discussions before the 90s makes me cringe. I still feel a connection reading about an era I was apart of. Even if I was too young to understand anything. I was still there.

At least talking about decades is better than generations. Seriously, I can't stand talking about arbitrary bullcrap like that.


I'll admit, it's interesting once in a while.  :o

I don't really see late 2006 as any different from early 2006 tbh, being around 19 then I think it's all just gradual now. 2007 definitely seems kind of old to me now, seeing someone walking around with a smartphone would be pretty shocking back in '07, now they're just all over the place. I had the first iPhone back in 2007 and I remembering how having a usable mobile web browser seemed very futuristic. That was the biggest thing that hit me about it then, browsing the web on a small screen and it was similar to my PC that amazed me. I remember the smartphones before it but the iPhone was definitely the one that made the idea mainstream and as I said it had a far better browser than anything that came before it. Before that an internet connected mobile device was a fantasy to most people. HDTV was still a big deal back in '07 now it's taken for granted. It's kind of hilarious to think back then 1080p resolution on large HDTVs was just taking off and many were saying "720p is enough who notices the difference anyway", now you got people who think 1080p on a 5in smartphone screen isn't enough pixels.

Going by the decade-insensitive era model that Jordan outlined, here's how I would outline world history since the end of World War II:

1946-1972: The mid-20th century. An age defined by the height of the Cold War, the rise of suburbs, the ascent of television, civil rights protests, and teenage rebellion against a supposedly utopian society. This period winds down in the early 70s with the decline of hippie culture, the end of Vietnam, the Watergate scandal, and the integration of newer customs in media as accepted norms and no longer the counterculture.

1973-1981: Sort of a prelude to the late 20th century, far removed from the social turbulence and rebellion of the mid-20th century, but before late 20th century technology started to really explode in the mainstream. New Hollywood, color television, casual fashion, and variable music were pretty much fully established, but computers, video games, home video, etc. were still in their infancy and hadn't really impacted everyday life yet.

1982-1996: The late 20th century. This is an age in which living room technology really explodes, synthesizers are standard in music, there are more than just three big television stations, walkmans are popular, neoliberalism takes over the world, summer blockbusters rule cinema for the first time, early personal computers enter the mainstream, and video games are a primary facet of entertainment, albeit still targeted primarily towards younger audiences.

1997-2006: The early digital age. Popular music begins to lead towards cruder, edgier styles and is even more synthesized/studio-produced than before. The Internet is finally a huge phenomenon, but more for actual websites and not just social media outlets. Middle Eastern terrorism is biggest global threat, especially after 9/11. DVD's slowly replace VHS. Video games are predominantly 3D and now catering just as much to adults as children. Windows computers are in their golden age, while Apple steadily climbs its way towards global domination. Fashion is a lot more casual and understated than in the past.

2007-present: The social media digital age. Geek culture becomes completely standard, not just a thriving underground scene. Video entertainment is experienced not just with HDTV, but also through online facets like YouTube and Netflix. The need for physical things sharply decreases as almost all major activities are done either online or with a mobile device. People are expected to use social media as means to communicate with their friends or to express themselves. Companies, events, and organizations usually promote themselves by listing their Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram urls. The gay rights movement gets an enormous kick that takes the world from a place in which it was still not that controversial to make "that's so gay" comments to one in which not only is same-sex marriage legal throughout most of the 1st world, you're completely ostracized for saying anything that may seem even mildly insensitive to the LGBT community, for worse or for better. Feminism and black civil rights also enter a new generation of protest. Politics are so polarized and so uncivilized that they make the age of Gingrich look like a yoga class by comparison.


Nice! I pretty much agree with all of this.

I don't really see late 2006 as any different from early 2006 tbh, being around 19 then I think it's all just gradual now. 2007 definitely seems kind of old to me now, seeing someone walking around with a smartphone would be pretty shocking back in '07, now they're just all over the place. I had the first iPhone back in 2007 and I remembering how having a usable mobile web browser seemed very futuristic. That was the biggest thing that hit me about it then, browsing the web on a small screen and it was similar to my PC that amazed me. I remember the smartphones before it but the iPhone was definitely the one that made the idea mainstream and as I said it had a far better browser than anything that came before it. Before that an internet connected mobile device was a fantasy to most people. HDTV was still a big deal back in '07 now it's taken for granted. It's kind of hilarious to think back then 1080p resolution on large HDTVs was just taking off and many were saying "720p is enough who notices the difference anyway", now you got people who think 1080p on a 5in smartphone screen isn't enough pixels.


Remembering 2007 and seeing someone I went to school with owning a smartphone does give off that "What" feel. Haha

Decade discussions are usually fascinating. For me though, decade discussions before the 90s makes me cringe. I still feel a connection reading about an era I was apart of. Even if I was too young to understand anything. I was still there.


Same here. I feel really young when I read stuff about the 60s and 70s, since I never grew fondly about them. Except it was for cartoons. The 80s-2000s seem legit for me, since I liked those decades.

I found this video on YouTube and I actually agree with it a bit.

ITjTlY5Tii8

Despite liking the second half of the 2000s for my personal life, I feel like pop culturally everything started to suck in the year 2006. Anyone else agree? Although I feel like 2008 is when things got even more worse.

I found this video on YouTube and I actually agree with it a bit.

ITjTlY5Tii8

Despite liking the second half of the 2000s for my personal life, I feel like pop culturally everything started to suck in the year 2006. Anyone else agree? Although I feel like 2008 is when things got even more worse.


Mqg96 mentioned this video before. But I'm sort of neutral about late 2000s popular culture. It doesn't have the unique style that the early and mid 2000s had, since it was around the time social media became popular. I can't even deny the fact that YouTube was already popular by 2007, since I started to watch it by then. Whenever I see stuff from 2000-2006, it gives me an aesthetic vibe that used to be more simpler when YouTube wasn't around. Especially when I remember it fondly. But for the late 2000s, especially 2008 and 2009, they seem to be in the same area as 2010 and 2011.  :P

I found this video on YouTube and I actually agree with it a bit.

ITjTlY5Tii8

Despite liking the second half of the 2000s for my personal life, I feel like pop culturally everything started to suck in the year 2006. Anyone else agree? Although I feel like 2008 is when things got even more worse.


He's clearly coming from a bro kind of perspective with his heavy lean towards video games (especially Halo), nu-metal bands like System of a Down and Avenged Sevenfold, and wrestling. He didn't even mention the growth of social media sites like MySpace or Facebook. I do agree that the mid-2000s were about the time popular culture took a particularly big leap down in quality, but it was for pretty different reasons in my case. I agree with all the repetitive southern rap spoiling music around the time, but I feel mostly indifferent about tv (putting aside kid channels, which I had basically just grown out of anyway), and there were actually a lot of pretty good movies in 2007, not to mention all the digital age technology still felt kind of fascinating throughout the late 2000s and early 2010s.

He's clearly coming from a bro kind of perspective with his heavy lean towards video games (especially Halo), nu-metal bands like System of a Down and Avenged Sevenfold, and wrestling. He didn't even mention the growth of social media sites like MySpace or Facebook. I do agree that the mid-2000s were about the time popular culture took a particularly big leap down in quality, but it was for pretty different reasons in my case. I agree with all the repetitive southern rap spoiling music around the time, but I feel mostly indifferent about tv (putting aside kid channels, which I had basically just grown out of anyway), and there were actually a lot of pretty good movies in 2007, not to mention all the digital age technology still felt kind of fascinating throughout the late 2000s and early 2010s.


The way it made social media look interesting back then was good. I loved of how people used computers for it, even though smartphones were already forming a community by then.

Must admit, I did like the "bittersweet farewell" feel of 2006, unlike the "farewell" feel of 2016 which has been just plain bitter. :P

Must admit, I did like the "bittersweet farewell" feel of 2006, unlike the "farewell" feel of 2016 which has been just plain bitter. :P


Same here. At least it didn't end sadly, while people didn't get upset over the most minor things.

I found this video on YouTube and I actually agree with it a bit.

ITjTlY5Tii8

Despite liking the second half of the 2000s for my personal life, I feel like pop culturally everything started to suck in the year 2006. Anyone else agree? Although I feel like 2008 is when things got even more worse.


I've never understood this at all. You realise the era you are talking about people would have been saying "sucked" at the time?

I've never understood this at all. You realise the era you are talking about people would have been saying "sucked" at the time?


???

It would have been "saying" sucked at the time? What do you mean by that? It would've been stuck being bad by a lot of people?

???

It would have been "saying" sucked at the time? What do you mean by that? It would've been stuck being bad by a lot of people?


I think he meant that back in the Mid 2000s, a lot of people would have thought that new music at the time sucked. But now, there are more people who believe that music from back then is really good, despite the fact that a lot of them didn't like it at the time. That's my interpretation of it, anyway. :P

I think he meant that back in the Mid 2000s, a lot of people would have thought that new music at the time sucked. But now, there are more people who believe that music from back then is really good, despite the fact that a lot of them didn't like it at the time. That's my interpretation of it, anyway. :P


I guess they fall over the "if it's modern, then it sucks" theory from Looney Toon.

That game was so bad. Like, people knew Sonic was already in decline for a while, so a bad game wouldn't usually be surprising, but that game in particular was so bad as to be offensive. It's just a rude game to release tbh; it flaunts its awfulness.

It's bad, but it's not the worst game ever.

Sonic and the Secret Rings is the worst game ever.


Delete this post!! I liked that game ;D

It had a fun party mode too, to make up for the disastrous Mario Party 8  :-X

Have you guys noticed that, even though 2004-2006 was significantly less x-treme than 2000-2003, there were still some vestiges of x-treme edge in pop culture from 2004 all the way till mid 2006? But then, when you get to late 2006, all of the x-treme has disappeared completely?

What was released in late 2006 that could've caused a shift from x-tremeness to "gritty realism" and boredom? Well,....

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Next-Gen_Box_Art.JPG

It's a bandwagon among gamers to bash Sonic 06, so I'm going to jump on the bandwagon too. :P
Did I ever tell you all that I wanted to buy the game so much after playing the demo? ;D Well I did, and I got 100% completion in 2 months!


Delete this post!! I liked that game ;D

It had a fun party mode too, to make up for the disastrous Mario Party 8  :-X
Agreed! I had that game too, and it played it for at least 2 hours. It ended up being awful. That's maybe why there were no MP games for 5 years. (MP9 was released in 2012)

Hey Dog, have you tried spreading my proposed "late 2006 meme" yet, or did you abandon plans?
I didn't abandon it. I'm on still on it. I unfortunately don't have Photoshop at home, but I can do it tomorrow. :)

Nice.

Also, your new avatar is cool to the max. 8)
thanks man 😊

Come on, Zelek. Now you're just being silly. ::)

Come on, Zelek. Now you're just being silly. ::)

No, I'm always right.

See the light, you 2003ist! ;D 2006 was the real "year of doom", not 2003.

No, I'm always right.

See the light, you 2003ist! ;D 2006 was the real "year of doom", not 2003.


Oh sure. If Lil Jon and 50 Cent aren't doom-bringers than I don't know who are. ::)

Oh sure. If Lil Jon and 50 Cent aren't doom-bringers than I don't know who are. ::)

No, Lil Jon and 50 Cent were awesome artists who embodied the awesome spirit of 2004-2006.

Artists like D4L, Soulja Boy, Hurricane Chris, Flo Rida, and Young Jeezy are the real wankstas who killed Hip Hop in the 2006-2008 era.

No, Lil Jon and 50 Cent were awesome artists who embodied the awesome spirit of 2004-2006.

Artists like D4L, Soulja Boy, Hurricane Chris, Flo Rida, and Young Jeezy are the real wankstas who killed Hip Hop in the 2006-2008 era.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ac/17/e8/ac17e809a2302e4309dff943e85f8f13.jpg

How could you deal with those horrendous controls???? :o


Hmm, they weren't fantastic, but they weren't game breaking either. It was Sonic on rails, lol.

No, Lil Jon and 50 Cent were awesome artists who embodied the awesome spirit of 2004-2006.

Artists like D4L, Soulja Boy, Hurricane Chris, Flo Rida, and Young Jeezy are the real wankstas who killed Hip Hop in the 2006-2008 era.
Weren't these two popular in the early 00s as well? 50 Cent had more songs during that time than just his known track, and Lil' Jon had his own albums. He was also even featured in many songs as well.

Weren't these two popular in the early 00s as well? 50 Cent had more songs during that time than just his known track, and Lil' Jon had his own albums. He was also even featured in many songs as well.


They exploded in 2003, though.

They exploded in 2003, though.
Nah, they exploded earlier.

Nah, they exploded earlier.


How? They weren't multi-platinum stadium selling artists until 2003. That's a fact. It doesn't make sense to say they exploded earlier when they were barely on the radar before In Da Club/Get Low.

How? They weren't multi-platinum stadium selling artists until 2003. That's a fact. It doesn't make sense to say they exploded earlier when they were barely on the radar before In Da Club/Get Low.
They don't have to be platinum to explode into popularity. Both artists had songs that were equally widespread prior to 2003.

They don't have to be platinum to explode into popularity. Both artists had songs that were equally widespread prior to 2003.


Well, no. Generally that's how it works. Platinum selling artists = big successes. I'm not talking about moderate or up and coming successes here, nor am I talking about artists who are successful in their own genre but fail to stretch out elsewhere. They didn't have widespread popularity or crossover into the mainstream pop world until 2003.

Well, no. Generally that's how it works. Platinum selling artists = big successes. I'm not talking about moderate or up and coming successes here, nor am I talking about artists who are successful in their own genre but fail to stretch out elsewhere. They didn't have widespread popularity or crossover into the mainstream pop world until 2003.
Yes, they did widespread popularity prior to that. Have you listened to both artists other than their iconic tracks?

Yes, they did widespread popularity prior to that. Have you listened to both artists other than their iconic tracks?


What does that have to do with their popularity, though? Their iconic tracks brought them success. These things have literally nothing to do with each other. They did not have widespread popularity until their big '03 hits. How did they have widespread popularity before that?

What does that have to do with their popularity, though? Their iconic tracks brought them success. These things have literally nothing to do with each other. They did not have widespread popularity until their big '03 hits. How did they have widespread popularity before that?
Take a look at 50 Cent's most known album. There are popular tracks from 2002. As for Lil' Jon, check out his 2001 and '02 albums, and the song he was featured in with Too Short's Shake that Monkey.

Take a look at 50 Cent's most known album. There are popular tracks from 2002. As for Lil' Jon, check out his 2001 and '02 albums, and the song he was featured in with Too Short's Shake that Monkey.


50 Cent's most popular album (Get Rich or Die Trying) was only recorded in 2002. None of those songs charted until it's release in 2003. No singles from the album came out in 2002, either.

Kings of Crunk came out in 2002 but it didn't even touch a notable spot on the charts or sell nearly enough copies until after the release of Get Low in 2003, which was also his first top 40 hit. None of his singles before that had any real presence. And Too Shorts Shake That Monkey came out in late '03.

How does having a small following in the hip hop community = widespread success? It doesn't.

Musically, 2003 was the start of the 00's music! Beyonce and 50 cent galore!!!  8)  8)

I remember sean kingston was popular in 2006, or was it 2007? Or both??  ???

Musically, 2003 was the start of the 00's music! Beyonce and 50 cent galore!!!  8)  8)

1998 is when 2000s music started.

1998 is when 2000s music started.


It's kinda like late 1998, to be honest. 1999 was the first full year to show 2000s-esque music.

It's kinda like late 1998, to be honest. 1999 was the first full year to show 2000s-esque music.


Here's a late 1998 song from one of my favorite entertainers/singers!  :D

http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/media/britney-one-more-time-650.jpg

mid-late 1998/1999 sounds about right to me. I lot of music from that time sounds just like a lot of 2000s era music to me. House, RnB, Pop, Hip Hop, Rock, Metal, Techo, Disco etc sound similar. Although you can split it. If we go by the term "Y2K era" then you can say the sound of music started in 1998 and even though the Y2K era ended in 2001 (as some say) the sound of music still sounded similar until the end of the early 2000s. Then the core 2000s ended up having a bit of a different sound of music. When looking up music I've noticed that a lot of elements of late 1990s music carried over. Although I also try to remember that decades have more than 1 era of music. There is no real definitive 2000s style of music or 1990s style as music from say 1992 doesn't sound like music from 1998. Especially in decades that rapidly change. Although I'm also not saying that the music trends completely change from what it previously was either.

1998 is when 2000s music started.

Hell naw... 1999.

mid-late 1998/1999 sounds about right to me. I lot of music from that time sounds just like a lot of 2000s era music to me. House, RnB, Pop, Hip Hop, Rock, Metal, Techo, Disco etc sound similar. Although you can split it. If we go by the term "Y2K era" then you can say the sound of music started in 1998 and even though the Y2K era ended in 2001 (as some say) the sound of music still sounded similar until the end of the early 2000s. Then the core 2000s ended up having a bit of a different sound of music. When looking up music I've noticed that a lot of elements of late 1990s music carried over. Although I also try to remember that decades have more than 1 era of music. There is no real definitive 2000s style of music or 1990s style as music from say 1992 doesn't sound like music from 1998. Especially in decades that rapidly change. Although I'm also not saying that the music trends completely change from what it previously was either.


Yup compare 1998's hits to 1999's. It's almost like a different world!

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Yup compare 1998's hits to 1999's. It's almost like a different world!

While 1998 was mostly still dominated by solidly 90s artists and bands like Puff Daddy, the Spice Girls, Everclear, and Garbage, it frankly did contain a lot of music that could easily pass for early 2000s. Here are some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buUbFAZ6mR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dthjojjVhDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDM0Fz5ccU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Xb_7YDroQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n44rluTxgZ8

While 1998 was mostly still dominated by solidly 90s artists and bands like Puff Daddy, the Spice Girls, Everclear, and Garbage, it frankly did contain a lot of music that could easily pass for early 2000s. Here are some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buUbFAZ6mR8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dthjojjVhDo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDM0Fz5ccU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Xb_7YDroQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n44rluTxgZ8

Yup you're right! :) It's amazing how being a fan of certain different genres could make some view that particular era differently. :o

50 Cent's most popular album (Get Rich or Die Trying) was only recorded in 2002. None of those songs charted until it's release in 2003. No singles from the album came out in 2002, either.

Kings of Crunk came out in 2002 but it didn't even touch a notable spot on the charts or sell nearly enough copies until after the release of Get Low in 2003, which was also his first top 40 hit. None of his singles before that had any real presence. And Too Shorts Shake That Monkey came out in late '03.

How does having a small following in the hip hop community = widespread success? It doesn't.
Actually, some were. Check out the dates from the album.

Get Low wasn't even released until late '03, so that's an indication most of the year had a early 00s charm.

You're making it sound like that 00s hip-hop didn't change until those songs gained popularity; however, that's false. Did you forget that rappers such as Ludacris, Nelly, Jay-Z, Ja Rule and even the group Yin-Yang Twins made songs like that, and were widespread in the early 00s?

Any progress?
Not yet. I just went back to school yesterday. Since my classes are later in the day, I can definitely take care of that. I have Photoshop at school.

Not yet. I just went back to school yesterday. Since my classes are later in the day, I can definitely take care of that. I have Photoshop at school.

How bout now? :)

I'd help out with that 2006 meme, but I'm not sure what to put on it. Unless a list is provided.

Me and Dog are trying to spread awareness about all the things that changed in late 2006.


I see. Curious on how you want the final image to look like.

I remember rap changed style in 1997. It helped inspire later R&B and rap of the 2002+ era. But it wasn't fully in 00's form yet.

How bout now? :)
Not yet. Just creating the image it going to take time.

Ask yourself; would the real Slim Shady REALLY be pro Hilary? Of course not, because his core audience were trump supporters.

Eminem is not pro-Hillary, or at leasr he never said he was, he is against Trump like almost everyone is. Very few of his fans support Trump like myself. But I know this was a joke and I'm not taking it seriously, just pointing out the facts lol.

Eminem is not pro-Hillary, or at leasr he never said he was, he is against Trump like almost everyone is. Very few of his fans support Trump like myself. But I know this was a joke and I'm not taking it seriously, just pointing out the facts lol.


I thought you were a liberal.  ???

I thought you were a liberal.  ???

I am that's why I don't support Trump. Sorry my wording was a little confusing after reading my post again. I meant most of his fans (including myself) don't support Trump.

someone made a video on this on youtube

someone made a video on this on youtube


Who did the video?

Who did the video?


I forget his name he has like a spanish voice

I hate to get back into this decade debate but I can't resist. I'm a dick, I know. :P Anyways, I just think my idea is super neat-o. I've grown to like dividing things into greater eras rather than try to dissect whenever any decade ends. I see it like this:

1983/1984-1995 is the late 20th century era. A lot more modern than the years before it but definitely very old school. Many technological advancements make this time period a lot more convenient (i.e. the walkman, VCR's, portable camcorders personal computers, cable TV, microwaves, music videos) while still retaining an older feel (predominant use of analog tape, internet still very niche). Fashion during this time also had a lot of freedom and variety. Things were very unrestricted, loose fitting and casual compared to the decades before it. The quality was better too as brands still made their stuff in America. The cuts and fits really didn't change much from the 80's to the 90's; only the designs/colors did, in my opinion. Popular movies consisted of teen comedies (Sixteen Candles, Ferris Bueller, Clueless), stoner comedies (Bill and Ted, Dumb and Dumber, Encino Man), big action movies (Terminator 1&2, Aliens, True Lies, Die Hard) and Spielberg-inspired for-the-whole-family movies (Gremlins, Jumanji The Goonies). Music exploded and it was the greatest thing ever. Punk Rock, Heavy Metal, Hip Hop, Alt. Rock, Pop and many other genres all went through big changes; the whole era was a wasteland of culture and creativity in the music world. Music videos defined this time, too. When Michael Jackson's amazing Thriller videos were released and right before MTV went to crap with their reality shows, you had to have good music videos if you wanted success. It was absolutely important during this time. While of course the mid-late 80's + early-mid 90's were fairly different time periods that went through many changes (and some really, really big ones like the end of the Cold War), I'd say I could consider a good chunk of both decades to be one greater era in terms of way of life. This is my favorite era of all time.

1996/1997-somewhere between 2006 to 2008 would be the early 21st century. Pretty much a primitive version of today with it's mp3s, crappy distressed made in china clothing, internet, 3D video games, super digitally produced music, early streaming services, commonplace cell phones, MTV = Reality TV, digital film, American Pie, etc. I like roughly the first 7 years of this time but the rest kinda sucked. Even then, looking at it through a neutral point of view, I can see that it's a fairly cohesive era considering the advancements made throughout.

2007/2008-present (we'll see what 2017 brings) would be the current era. Things from the early 20th century were and continue to be "improved" upon and made even more convenient. Better/faster internet, super hero movies, cell phones more convenient, even worse/tackier clothing, better streaming services, etc. A lot of changes throughout this period but same story as the others: it has enough similarities for me to consider it one giant cohesive era. Blah. 8-P



Awesome take on it! The way you've divvied up periods and described them really makes me think. I'll likely write more as the thoughts cohere.

Do you think the loose-cut and casual clothing of the 80s and first half of the 90s ended sometime in the 2000s? I never paid a lot of attention to fashion and still probably dress like it's the 90s, but it seems to me like things got tighter.

Even shoes fit me differently now. Back in the 90s, I was a 10.5 to 11 shoe size. Now I'm a 12+, and I stopped growing in the late 90s. But almost every pair of shoes I try on now just fits differently than the pairs did back in the late 90s for me. They're narrower and I find it weird. Finding clothes in general that fit the way I like them just seems harder now.

I grew very comfortable with roomy clothes, such that it's even easier for me to work in them, and now the way things are cut seems awkward to me.

I am that's why I don't support Trump. Sorry my wording was a little confusing after reading my post again. I meant most of his fans (including myself) don't support Trump.

I'm moderate. ;)

Oh yeah, about my last comment. I realize that I left it open for anyone who'd like to do so to take an easy shot for laughs, and it would be funny and I'd deserve it for not making things clearer. Someone could just say, "You got fat, that's why things fit differently."

I weigh about five pounds more than I did in 1998, so there's no reason clothing should feel different to me now, but it does and I wonder why.

I'm moderate. ;)


I'm a neoliberal globalist shill.  :-X


Oh yeah, about my last comment. I realize that I left it open for anyone who'd like to do so to take an easy shot for laughs, and it would be funny and I'd deserve it for not making things clearer. Someone could just say, "You got fat, that's why things fit differently."

I weigh about five pounds more than I did in 1998, so there's no reason clothing should feel different to me now, but it does and I wonder why.


I think the waist/stomach area gets bigger as you grow older. I noticed it on me as well, a lot of my jeans from a few years ago feel a lot tighter even though I didn't gain any weight. Younger people tend to be more lean.  ;D

I'm a neoliberal globalist shill.  :-X

I think the waist/stomach area gets bigger as you grow older. I noticed it on me as well, a lot of my jeans from a few years ago feel a lot tighter even though I didn't gain any weight. Younger people tend to be more lean.  ;D


I've barely gained weight in the past nineteen years and things don't seem to fit right, especially shoes. Part of it could be that I moved in 2013 from Colorado to the eastern U.S. Colorado has a lot of California influence and has had it for decades, so shoes like Vans were easy to find out there, and they fit me nicely. In the east, Vans are a lot more difficult to find, and the shoes I do find are almost always too narrow.

But I wonder if the tight-fitting clothing thing is a more general trend from the 2000s. Culture was looser and more free flowing in the 90s. The 2000s got more tight-lipped, with the War on Terror and Orange Alerts and all that, and maybe this buttoned down shift in the cultural vibe is reflected in clothing.

Awesome take on it! The way you've divvied up periods and described them really makes me think. I'll likely write more as the thoughts cohere.

Do you think the loose-cut and casual clothing of the 80s and first half of the 90s ended sometime in the 2000s? I never paid a lot of attention to fashion and still probably dress like it's the 90s, but it seems to me like things got tighter.

Even shoes fit me differently now. Back in the 90s, I was a 10.5 to 11 shoe size. Now I'm a 12+, and I stopped growing in the late 90s. But almost every pair of shoes I try on now just fits differently than the pairs did back in the late 90s for me. They're narrower and I find it weird. Finding clothes in general that fit the way I like them just seems harder now.

I grew very comfortable with roomy clothes, such that it's even easier for me to work in them, and now the way things are cut seems awkward to me.


Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!

Yeah, I'd say somewhere around the mid-00's. It's pretty easy to find t-shirts from the mid 80's through mid 90's that fit bigger and have sleeves near the elbow, etc. I remember frequently going out clothing shopping in the 00's and, even today, trying out a large shirt and having it fit a lot smaller than it when I was younger.

Just check out these skateboard ads for example!

1985 and 1993:

http://skately.com/img/library/print/medium/blockhead-skateboards-jj-rogers-1985.jpghttp://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/RobDyrdek_Alienworkshop_Ad_Swift1.jpg

Baggier pants, bigger shirts.

2007:

https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-4513e6e1dd9aa591bf513872829b98ef.jpg

Tighter...

Now:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/55/60/7c55605b7688e52764a2e04e32b57ad3.jpg

Big WTF.

I don't get. I also prefer roomier clothing and it sucks how hard it is to find proper oversized fits.

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!

Yeah, I'd say somewhere around the mid-00's. It's pretty easy to find t-shirts from the mid 80's through mid 90's that fit bigger and have sleeves near the elbow, etc. I remember frequently going out clothing shopping in the 00's and, even today, trying out a large shirt and having it fit a lot smaller than it when I was younger.

Just check out these skateboard ads for example!

1985 and 1993:

http://skately.com/img/library/print/medium/blockhead-skateboards-jj-rogers-1985.jpghttp://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/RobDyrdek_Alienworkshop_Ad_Swift1.jpg

Baggier pants, bigger shirts.

2007:

https://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r960-4513e6e1dd9aa591bf513872829b98ef.jpg

Tighter...

Now:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7c/55/60/7c55605b7688e52764a2e04e32b57ad3.jpg

Big WTF.

I don't get. I also prefer roomier clothing and it sucks how hard it is to find proper oversized fits.


I like comfortable ass clothes, and they look good when you do it right. They certainly look better than those super tight clothes in that last photo.

Speaking of the late 2006 shift. Looking at this list of movies, what's the last movie on this list that you guys would say feels distinctly like a "mid 2000s movie"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_in_film

Speaking of the late 2006 shift. Looking at this list of movies, what's the last movie on this list that you guys would say feels distinctly like a "mid 2000s movie"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_in_film


I guess maybe the ones that were released in July or August.

I like comfortable ass clothes, and they look good when you do it right. They certainly look better than those super tight clothes in that last photo.


Yeah, he looks like a total goof. The first two pictures look pretty awesome and those skaters themselves have a cool style. Baggy clothes need to make a comeback, no more tight sh!t.

Skinny jeans can stretch! They're not uncomfortable. They feel snug and warm.  :-X #SkinnyJeansClub

Skinny jeans can stretch! They're not uncomfortable. They feel snug and warm.  :-X #SkinnyJeansClub


Skinny jeans are so lame. Way to look like a dork in public. ::)

Skinny jeans are so lame. Way to look like a dork in public. ::)


Dorks and skinny jeans are cool mmkay. Get with this post-ironic age.

It is funny at the time I did have this sense of things were changing of May/June 2006
Sam Goody & Sun Coast closing was a huge inclination of what was to come in late 2008,
however the majority of people were not effected by this at all.

2001, have you ever thought about creating a meme about this late 2006 shift and posting it as a meme across the Internet, to spread awareness?

2001, have you ever thought about creating a meme about this late 2006 shift and posting it as a meme across the Internet, to spread awareness?


I'll rather spread it as a meme towards 2007/2008.

Yeah, he looks like a total goof. The first two pictures look pretty awesome and those skaters themselves have a cool style. Baggy clothes need to make a comeback, no more tight sh!t.

I fully agree with you.

Dorks and skinny jeans are cool mmkay. Get with this post-ironic age.


Oh brother. ::)

Speaking of the late 2006 shift. Looking at this list of movies, what's the last movie on this list that you guys would say feels distinctly like a "mid 2000s movie"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_in_film


Now that list reminded me of how there were hardly any good movies that came out that year.

Now that list reminded me of how there were hardly any good movies that came out that year.

LOL. Happy Feet, Superman Returns, Cars, Ice Age: The Meltdown and Night at the Museum were my ish as a 7 year old.  :P :D

LOL. Happy Feet, Superman Returns, Cars, Ice Age: The Meltdown and Night at the Museum were my ish as a 7 year old.  :P :D


2006 films were the sh*t, man. Although, 2005 has better movies.

2006 films were the sh*t, man. Although, 2005 has better movies.

The only 2005 movies I can remember is Chicken Little, Life is Ruff (a Disney Channel Original Movie), Go Figure (also, a Disney Channel Original Movie) and Batman Begins.

The only 2005 movies I can remember is Chicken Little, Life is Ruff (a Disney Channel Original Movie), Go Figure (also, a Disney Channel Original Movie) and Batman Begins.


Chicken Little wasn't really my favorite out of all the movies released in 2005. Heck, even Lilo and Stitch 2 (Stitch has a Glitch) and Tarzan II were better movies than Chicken Little, and they were both released in 2005.

Chicken Little wasn't really my favorite out of all the movies released in 2005. Heck, even Lilo and Stitch 2 (Stitch has a Glitch) and Tarzan II were better movies than Chicken Little, and they were both released in 2005.

Tarzan II was the sh*t back then. I also loved Lilo & Stitch 2. I just searched up some 2005 movies and I loved Herbie: Fully Loaded, The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, The Longest Yard, Madagascar, Ice Princess, Hitch, Are We There Yet?, Coach Carter, Fantastic Four, Sky High, Wedding Crashers, & Charlie and the Chocolate Factory growing up.

Tarzan II was the sh*t back then. I also loved Lilo & Stitch 2. I just searched up some 2005 movies and I loved Herbie: Fully Loaded, The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, The Longest Yard, Madagascar, Ice Princess, Hitch, Are We There Yet?, Coach Carter, Fantastic Four, Sky High, Wedding Crashers, & Charlie and the Chocolate Factory growing up.


Aw man, I loved those movies back then. Especially the ones that are highlighted in bold.

Aw man, I loved those movies back then. Especially the ones that are highlighted in bold.

Yeah, same here. They were cheesy but also fun.  :)

Yeah, same here. They were cheesy but also fun.  :)


That's what made them likable to me.  :)

Tarzan II was the sh*t back then. I also loved Lilo & Stitch 2. I just searched up some 2005 movies and I loved Herbie: Fully Loaded, The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, The Longest Yard, Madagascar, Ice Princess, Hitch, Are We There Yet?, Coach Carter, Fantastic Four, Sky High, Wedding Crashers, & Charlie and the Chocolate Factory growing up.


I remember all of those movies in theaters like yesterday! My favorite 2005 movies were Fantastic Four, Herbie: Fully Loaded (my obsession with racing games as a kid), Sharkboy & Lavagirl, Madagascar, Batman Begins, Sky High, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe. I know I forgot a few more that I posted last year. 2005 was still a solid 6th generation gaming year when everybody played their XBOX, Gamecube, or PS2's. 2005 was also a great year for TV shows and reality TV. Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, Jetix, Nickelodeon, and G4 had really great lineups. American Idol and the Amazing Race had good seasons.

2006 had The Prestige, The Departed, Borat, Talladega Nights, and Pan's Labyrinth so I don't see what you guys are smoking to think it was a bad year for movies.

I remember all of those movies in theaters like yesterday! My favorite 2005 movies were Fantastic Four, Herbie: Fully Loaded (my obsession with racing games as a kid), Sharkboy & Lavagirl, Madagascar, Batman Begins, Sky High, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, and The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe. I know I forgot a few more that I posted last year. 2005 was still a solid 6th generation gaming year when everybody played their XBOX, Gamecube, or PS2's. 2005 was also a great year for TV shows and reality TV. Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, Jetix, Nickelodeon, and G4 had really great lineups. American Idol and the Amazing Race had good seasons.


2006 had The Prestige, The Departed, Borat, Talladega Nights, and Pan's Labyrinth so I don't see what you guys are smoking to think it was a bad year for movies.

I AGREE with you guys 100%.

2006 had The Prestige, The Departed, Borat, Talladega Nights, and Pan's Labyrinth so I don't see what you guys are smoking to think it was a bad year for movies.


When I think of 2006 movies I think of the trailers that would come before it and say COMING soon SUMMER 2007,
2006 was pretty lackluster for movies tbh, IT WAS FUN but pretty lack luster as in big blockbuster movies.

The later half of 2006 felt very NEW, it just had this new feel to it

When I think of 2006 movies I think of the trailers that would come before it and say COMING soon SUMMER 2007,
2006 was pretty lackluster for movies tbh, IT WAS FUN but pretty lack luster as in big blockbuster movies.

Just because 2006 didn't have lots of huge blockbusters doesn't mean it was a bad year for movies.

Just 2006 didn't have lots of huge blockbusters doesn't mean it was a bad year for movies.


when I think of 2006 movies, I think of me falling asleep watching  Fast and Furious tokyo drift, and Grudge 2

when I think of 2006 movies, I think of me falling asleep watching  Fast and Furious tokyo drift, and Grudge 2

There was more 2006 films than Tokyo Drift (which I liked and still do) and Grudge 2.

There was more 2006 films than Tokyo Drift (which I liked and still do) and Grudge 2.


Those movies were not that great ratings wise tbh

Those movies were not that great ratings wise tbh

It's all a matter of opinion, I know a lot of people who feel that 2007 (the year you said has better movies than 2006) sucked when it came to films.

It's all a matter of opinion, I know a lot of people who feel that 2007 (the year you said has better movies than 2006) sucked when it came to films.


If someone really thinks 2006 was a higher quality year for movies than 2007 then they must literally be on some cocaine. 2007 is considered as one of the best years for movies of the 2000's decade by tons of reviews and documentaries. Look at what 2007 had. No Country for Old Men, 300, Ratatouille (most mature Pixar movie), Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Transformers, There Will Be Blood, American Gangster, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, Into The Wild, The Simpson's Movie, Spider-Man 3 (least favorite but still decent), and Enchanted. Mediocre movies from that year would be considered as the best if they came out in 2006.

If someone really thinks 2006 was a higher quality year for movies than 2007 then they must literally be on some cocaine. 2007 is considered as one of the best years for movies of the 2000's decade by tons of reviews and documentaries. Look at what 2007 had. No Country for Old Men, 300, Ratatouille (most mature Pixar movie), Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Transformers, There Will Be Blood, American Gangster, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, Into The Wild, The Simpson's Movie, Spider-Man 3 (least favorite but still decent), and Enchanted. Mediocre movies from that year would be considered as the best if they came out in 2006.

I didn't say that they thought 2006 was better than 2007 in terms of movies. They say that 2007 in general (not comparing to other years) was a bad year for movies and that all of those movies you mentioned were meh to bad. Anyways, my point was that just like you think that "If someone really thinks 2006 was a higher quality year for movies than 2007 then they must literally be on some cocaine." & "Mediocre movies from that year would be considered as the best if they came out in 2006."....it's just your opinion and all of this movie talk is a matter of opinion.

I didn't say that they thought 2006 was better than 2007 in terms of movies. They say that 2007 in general (not comparing to other years) was a bad year for movies and that all of those movies you mentioned were meh to bad. Anyways, my point was that just like you think that "If someone really thinks 2006 was a higher quality year for movies than 2007 then they must literally be on some cocaine." & "Mediocre movies from that year would be considered as the best if they came out in 2006."....it's just your opinion and all of this movie talk is a matter of opinion.


I'm using facts to support my opinion. It's a fact that the majority of movies from 2007 did better in the box office and had higher ratings than movies from 2006 and even 2004 & 2005 too. The variety of movies 2007 had compared to 2006 is right in front of you. You look on a lot of top 10-20 movie rakings from 2000-2009 you'll see a lot of 2007 movies on there.

I'm using facts to support my opinion. It's a fact that the majority of movies from 2007 did better in the box office and had higher ratings than movies from 2006 and even 2004 & 2005 too. The variety of movies 2007 had compared to 2006 is right in front of you. You look on a lot of top 10-20 movie rakings from 2000-2009 you'll see a lot of 2007 movies on there.

Once again, people liking a movie is an opinion, critic reviews ARE opinions, box office sales are based off of the OPINION of people liking a movie and wanting to go see it. It's ALL opinions.

Once again, people liking a movie is an opinion, critic reviews ARE opinions, box office sales are based off of the OPINION of people liking a movie and wanting to go see it. It's ALL opinions.


It can be someone's opinion that MTV's golden age was the 2000's decade, but that doesn't mean the 2000's was the golden age of MTV. It's a fact that the golden age of MTV was the 80's and its silver age was the 90's. This also applies to which year for movies was received the most positive reviews and how well those did in the box office.

Once again, people liking a movie is an opinion, critic reviews ARE opinions, box office sales are based off of the OPINION of people liking a movie and wanting to go see it. It's ALL opinions.


and that's how movies make a lot of money, become successful or so successful that those become a part of our everyday pop culture.

if people find out a movie doesn't do well in the box office or didn't make a lot of money that's going to turn people off.

and that's how movies become successful or so successful that those become a part of our everyday pop culture.

Yes, that is very true.

It's all a matter of opinion, I know a lot of people who feel that 2007 (the year you said has better movies than 2006) sucked when it came to films.


Eh... 2007 had a lot of great films that came out. Even though 2006 had The Departed, Casino Royale, The Devil Wears Prada, Happy Feet, and Borat, the year was just okay at best. 2007 was above average with Ratatouille, Superbad, Spider-Man 3, Ocean's Thirteen, American Gangster, 300, and many others.

Eh... 2007 had a lot of great films that came out. Even though 2006 had The Departed, Casino Royale, The Devil Wears Prada, Happy Feet, and Borat, the year was just okay at best. 2007 was above average with Ratatouille, Superbad, Spider-Man 3, Ocean's Thirteen, American Gangster, 300, and many others.

I agree.

I didn't say that they thought 2006 was better than 2007 in terms of movies. They say that 2007 in general (not comparing to other years) was a bad year for movies and that all of those movies you mentioned were meh to bad. Anyways, my point was that just like you think that "If someone really thinks 2006 was a higher quality year for movies than 2007 then they must literally be on some cocaine." & "Mediocre movies from that year would be considered as the best if they came out in 2006."....it's just your opinion and all of this movie talk is a matter of opinion.


I don't really think 2007 wasn't that bad for movies. In fact, it was very iconic for a lot of people during the decade. It was as great as 2003-2005 to me.

I don't really think 2007 wasn't that bad for movies. In fact, it was very iconic for a lot of people during the decade. It was as great as 2003-2005 to me.

Yes and that is your what?.......your opinion (not meant in a condescending way).

Yes and that is your what?.......your opinion (not meant in a condescending way).


Well, it is my opinion. I didn't really say that it was true that 2007 was the best year for movies in the 2000s.

Well, it is my opinion. I didn't really say that it was true that 2007 was the best year for movies in the 2000s.

I know but I was just talking in theme with the discussion that saying a certain year was better than another in terms of film (and in general) is an opinion.

I know but I was just talking in theme with the discussion that saying a certain year was better than another in terms of film (and in general) is an opinion.


But that doesn't really mean it was good from a certain number. The 2000s as a whole had great movies to me, but that's not because it had numbers that I recognized since the beginning of my life. Most of them (at least with children's flicks and some teen flicks), have a nostalgic feeling with me. So that's why I find the 2000s to be great with the film industry.

But that doesn't really mean it was good from a certain number. The 2000s as a whole had great movies to me, but that's not because it had numbers that I recognized since the beginning of my life. Most of them (at least with children's flicks and some teen flicks), have a nostalgic feeling with me. So that's why I find the 2000s to be great with the film industry.

OK, that's fine.

Late 2006 shift wasn't that big in my opinion. 2004 was a bigger game changer.  :-X When Friends ended, that's a true end of an era. No one cared about that '70s Show. The laugh track on it is worse than parodies. ;D

Late 2006 shift wasn't that big in my opinion. 2004 was a bigger game changer.  :-X When Friends ended, that's a true end of an era. No one cared about that '70s Show. The laugh track on it is worse than parodies. ;D

Wrong, a lot of people cared about That '70s Show.

Wrong, a lot of people cared about That '70s Show.


Compared to Friends. ;D

And Frasier!

Late 2006 shift wasn't that big in my opinion. 2004 was a bigger game changer.  :-X When Friends ended, that's a true end of an era. No one cared about that '70s Show. The laugh track on it is worse than parodies. ;D


I cared.  :-[  :\'(  :\'(

I cared.  :-[  :\'(  :\'(


Even the Drew Carey show was better. Yeah, I'm going there!

(edit: and I just checked, had higher ratings too! disaster!)

Compared to Friends. ;D

And Frasier!

Of course, That '70s Show wasn't more watched than Friends or Frasier but that doesn't mean it still wasn't a popular show.

Even the Drew Carey show was better. Yeah, I'm going there!


What about Buffy? BBufffffeeettttt?  ???

Of course, That '70s Show wasn't more watched than Friends or Frasier but that doesn't mean it still wasn't a popular show.


I'm checking the ratings for various show at the time, and The '70s Show can't even beat Yes, Dear or Becker or Still Standing, and hardly anyone remembers those shows :o

What about Buffy? BBufffffeeettttt?  ???


Further proof that 2003/2004 was the bigger shift.  :-X

I'm checking the ratings for various show at the time, and The '70s Show can't even beat Yes, Dear or Becker or Still Standing, and hardly anyone remembers those shows :o

That confirms That '70s Show's popularity because it got lower views than those shows (based on what you said) and it's still remembered today and those other shows aren't.

That confirms That '70s Show's popularity because it got lower views than those shows (based on what you said) and it's still remembered today and those other shows aren't.


How is it "remembered today"? Do you have the numbers on that? :o

How is it "remembered today"? Do you got the numbers on that? :o


Yeah, not a lot of people really watch That 70's Show as they used to ten years ago.

Yeah, not a lot of people really watch That 70's Show as they used to ten years ago.

Remembering is different from watching. Also, there aren't much reruns of That '70s Show reruns on TV today.

Remembering is different from watching. Also, there aren't much reruns of That '70s Show reruns on TV today.


Having a lot of people remembering a show that ended ten years ago doesn't really count. By the time the show ended, there could be people who just moved on from their 70s nostalgia phase and went with something else.

How is it "remembered today"? Do you have the numbers on that? :o

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Well, it is my opinion. I didn't really say that it was true that 2007 was the best year for movies in the 2000s.


Just to let you know, I don't mean 2007 was the best year for movies of the decade, but based off reviews it was one of the best. I think 2001 was the best year for movies of the 2000's.

Just to let you know, I don't mean 2007 was the best year for movies of the decade, but based off reviews it was one of the best. I think 2001 was the best year for movies of the 2000's.


Quite frankly, it did have a lot of great movies throughout the year. Although, it wasn't like the best year for movies in the 2000s for me. It could be either 2003 or 2004 to me.

Actually, there was no late 2006. It's more like the early 2007 shift.

You see late 2006 had this:

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2007 was this 8) 8) 8) 8) 8):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/The_Boatlift.jpg/220px-The_Boatlift.jpg

2007 is the real 2010's era. 8)

Actually, there was no late 2006. It's more like the early 2007 shift.

You see late 2006 had this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/78/El_Mariel.jpg/220px-El_Mariel.jpg

2007 was this 8) 8) 8) 8) 8):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/The_Boatlift.jpg/220px-The_Boatlift.jpg

2007 is the real 2010's era. 8)

Yeah, in late 2006 Pitbull appeared to be some kind of lowly monk(?). But everything changed in early 2007 when he became a rich, suave city boy who gets the ladies. 8)

Plus, early 2007 is when Obama began running for president. While in late 2006 Obama wasn't running for president. And in late 2006, Congress was controlled by Republicans. But in early 2007, Congress was controlled by Democrats. Huge difference right there.

Actually, there was no late 2006. It's more like the early 2007 shift.

You see late 2006 had this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/78/El_Mariel.jpg/220px-El_Mariel.jpg

2007 was this 8) 8) 8) 8) 8):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/The_Boatlift.jpg/220px-The_Boatlift.jpg

2007 is the real 2010's era. 8)


You know it's the 2010s when artists are putting out qualitY.

Those are all the right points. I'm glad we're on the same page, fellas. 8)

Yeah, in late 2006 Pitbull appeared to be some kind of lowly monk(?). But everything changed in early 2007 when he became a rich, suave city boy who gets the ladies. 8)

Plus, early 2007 is when Obama began running for president. While in late 2006 Obama wasn't running for president. And in late 2006, Congress was controlled by Republicans. But in early 2007, Congress was controlled by Democrats. Huge difference right there.


But nobody really knew that Obama could win the 2008 election when he announced his campaign in early 2007. It wasn't even that noticeable compared to Trump and Hillary's campaigns, which were spread worldwide due to their controversies.

New York Raven, do you understand the concepts of "jokes" and "sarcasm"?

Actually, there was no late 2006. It's more like the early 2007 shift.

You see late 2006 had this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/78/El_Mariel.jpg/220px-El_Mariel.jpg

2007 was this 8) 8) 8) 8) 8):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/The_Boatlift.jpg/220px-The_Boatlift.jpg

2007 is the real 2010's era. 8)



Yeah, in late 2006 Pitbull appeared to be some kind of lowly monk(?). But everything changed in early 2007 when he became a rich, suave city boy who gets the ladies. 8)
Don't forget his 2005 album. That's how he got his start.

Here's a metaphor I stole from someone else:

2003/4 is when the Y2K era(i.e. skater punk, ska, frosted tips, Discman, nu-metal, Malcolm in the Middle) was shot. And late 2006 is when it finished bleeding out (Malcolm in the Middle ends, nu-metal dies).

Actually, there was no late 2006. It's more like the early 2007 shift.

You see late 2006 had this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/78/El_Mariel.jpg/220px-El_Mariel.jpg

2007 was this 8) 8) 8) 8) 8):

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/The_Boatlift.jpg/220px-The_Boatlift.jpg

That song "Go Girl" could easily been a 2014 song. I thought it was from that year until I looked it up. The one thing that makes it sound old is MySpace is mentioned in the lyrics.

2007 is the real 2010's era. 8)

Here's a metaphor I stole from someone else:

2003/4 is when the Y2K era(i.e. skater punk, ska, frosted tips, Discman, nu-metal, Malcolm in the Middle) was shot. And late 2006 is when it finished bleeding out (Malcolm in the Middle ends, nu-metal dies).


I would say she was already a vegetable from 2004-2006 though  :-X

Here's a metaphor I stole from someone else:

2003/4 is when the Y2K era(i.e. skater punk, ska, frosted tips, Discman, nu-metal, Malcolm in the Middle) was shot. And late 2006 is when it finished bleeding out (Malcolm in the Middle ends, nu-metal dies).

Y2K era ended in 2001. It was a very short era.

Y2K era ended in 2001. It was a very short era.

Jordan says the Y2K era began in 1998 and ended in 2002/3. With 1996-1997 and 2003-2004 being the transition periods.

Jordan is 13 years older than you and he participated first-hand in the skater/pop punk culture of the early 2000s, so I'm more inclined to believe him over you. Better luck next time fam.

Jordan says the Y2K era began in 1998 and ended in 2002/3. With 1996-1997 and 2003-2004 being the transition periods.

Jordan is 13 years older than you and he participated first-hand in the skater/pop punk culture of the early 2000s, so I'm more inclined to believe him over you. Better luck next time fam.

Y2K era did not end in 2003. It was 1999 - 2001. How the heck can an era about going into the new millennium last all the way up to 2003? That's just laughable. If you said early 2000s lasted up to 2003, that's more understandable. But the Y2K era is separate and lasted until 2001 at the latest. 9/11 ended the era.

Y2K era ended in 2001. It was a very short era.


I would say the narrowest definition is from Summer 1999 through September 11, 2001.  The '99-00 school year had a very different feel than '98-'99.  '98-99 school year was about trench coats, Marylin Manson, goth attire, Jncos, and the N64.  '99-00 was more about Eminem, cargo pants, caesar cuts with frosted tips, and Abercrombie & Fitch.  The Y2K era was really only two complete school years, '99-00 and '00-01.

9/11 killed the entire era.  Had it not been for 9/11 it probably would have lasted a little longer than it did but it was already on its way out.

Y2K era did not end in 2003. It was 1999 - 2001. How the heck can an era about going into the new millennium last all the way up to 2003? That's just laughable. If you said early 2000s lasted up to 2003, that's more understandable. But the Y2K era is separate and lasted until 2001 at the latest. 9/11 ended the era.

When we say "Y2K era" I don't think we necessarily mean "era where people were paranoid over Y2K", I think it's more like shorthand for "era around the turn of millennium". 1998-2003 had its own unifying aesthetic.

I would say a perfect definition is it began with the Columbine shootings and ended with 9/11.  That really does define when the Y2K-era zeitgeist was predominant.  Columbine changed teen culture which then changed all of pop culture.  9/11 of course changed the world overnight.

When we say "Y2K era" I don't think we necessarily mean "era where people were paranoid over Y2K", I think it's more like shorthand for "era around the turn of millennium". 1998-2003 had its own unifying aesthetic.

1998 - 2003 was not at all a single era... 1999 - 2001 was though. 1998 was completely different from 2003, not sure how you can't see that.

2003 had similar TV shows(Friends, Dexter's Lab, Pokemon when Misty was there, Everybody Love Raymond, etc.), similar music, similar aesthetic (futurism, emphasis on bling, fishbowl camera close-angles), etc. to 1998.

2003 had similar TV shows(Friends, Dexter's Lab, Pokemon when Misty was there, Everybody Love Raymond, etc.), similar music, similar aesthetic (futurism, emphasis on bling, fishbowl camera close-angles), etc. to 1998.

So? That doesn't mean it's part of the same era. By the way I'm not the only one who thinks Y2K is 1999 - 2001, many people agree with me on that and the fact that 9/11 killed the Y2K era. It's a unique era on its own, not part of the early 2000s or late 90s. It's a bridge between the late 90s and early 2000s culture.

There is NO true definition for Y2K era. It's all opinionated. Whether someone says it ended because of 911 or some other reason does not in any way make it true.

Ultimately I still don't bother with even the "Y2K era" as it's something that only made up on this forum and not much of an official thing. With reasons that define the era being somewhat arbitrary.

I'm fine with just late 90s/early 00s era. Less arbitrary in rules and can't be argued with.

There is NO true definition for Y2K era. It's all opinionated. Whether someone says it ended because of 911 or some other reason does not in any way make it true.

Ultimately I still don't bother with even the "Y2K era" as it's something that only made up on this forum and not much of an official thing. With reasons that define the era being somewhat arbitrary.

I'm fine with just late 90s/early 00s era. Less arbitrary in rules and can't be argued with.


Oh yeah it's one of the most arbitrary and controversial definitions out there ever. For while I used to think Y2K/millennial meant late 90's & early 2000's culture combined together as one whole era from late 1997-mid 2003 with 1999 & 2000 being the peak years. Lately I've come to realize that Y2K is a separate era from late 90's and early 2000's, but even then I'm still confused when people keep coming up with so many different definitions.

I'm okay with late 1996-1998 being late 90's, 1999-mid 2001 being Y2K/millennial, and late 2001-2003 being early 2000's. Although I think Jordan's definition of the Y2K from 1998-2002 is the best one since it's so simple and it makes sense that it's both late 90's & early 2000's culture instead of being separate in between the two.

I would say the narrowest definition is from Summer 1999 through September 11, 2001.  The '99-00 school year had a very different feel than '98-'99.  '98-99 school year was about trench coats, Marylin Manson, goth attire, Jncos, and the N64.  '99-00 was more about Eminem, cargo pants, caesar cuts with frosted tips, and Abercrombie & Fitch.  The Y2K era was really only two complete school years, '99-00 and '00-01.

9/11 killed the entire era.  Had it not been for 9/11 it probably would have lasted a little longer than it did but it was already on its way out.


So Y2K culture would had lasted longer if 9/11 didn't happen? For what reasons when it came to music, video games, movies, TV shows, politics, etc. I don't think that would had changed since George Bush replacing Bill Clinton was an early 2000's thing, 6th generation gaming taking over was an early 2000's thing, or a lot of movies from 2001 being part of the early 2000's. See, I know 9/11 was very significant, but it can be arbitrary. There has to be a lot more reasons for Y2K culture to had disappeared in one day. Otherwise we'd just assume that there was still a lot of Y2K culture relevant throughout 2002 when there were many other factors that made the year predominantly early 2000's culture even if 9/11 didn't happen.

Oh yeah it's one of the most arbitrary and controversial definitions out there ever. For while I used to think Y2K/millennial meant late 90's & early 2000's culture combined together as one whole era from late 1997-mid 2003 with 1999 & 2000 being the peak years. Lately I've come to realize that Y2K is a separate era from late 90's and early 2000's, but even then I'm still confused when people keep coming up with so many different definitions.

I'm okay with late 1996-1998 being late 90's, 1999-mid 2001 being Y2K/millennial, and late 2001-2003 being early 2000's. Although I think Jordan's definition of the Y2K from 1998-2002 is the best one since it's so simple and it makes sense that it's both late 90's & early 2000's culture instead of being separate in between the two.


Yeah, I see 1998-2002 as Y2K era, but I don't call it "Y2K era" most of the time. I just say the time period from 1998-2002 or late 1990s/early 2000s. I honestly don't see Y2K being really distinct from late 1990s and early 2000s as I see the era being that is more of a combination of the two and not really distinct. Even by 2002 I'd say that there were a TON of late 1998/1999 leftovers as the late 1990s were still relevent since a lot of trends that were in 2002 can be trances back to 1998/1999. Heck most of the trends that 2002 started wouldn't even become huge until the mid 2000s leaving 2002 being dominated by 1999 trends.


So Y2K culture would had lasted longer if 9/11 didn't happen? For what reasons when it came to music, video games, movies, TV shows, politics, etc. I don't think that would had changed since George Bush replacing Bill Clinton was an early 2000's thing, 6th generation gaming taking over was an early 2000's thing, or a lot of movies from 2001 being part of the early 2000's. See, I know 9/11 was very significant, but it can be arbitrary. There has to be a lot more reasons for Y2K culture to had disappeared in one day. Otherwise we'd just assume that there was still a lot of Y2K culture relevant throughout 2002 when there were many other factors that made the year predominantly early 2000's culture even if 9/11 didn't happen.


Yeah, even if 9/11 didn't happen the "Y2K culture" would've still disappeared. Culture naturally changes due to a lot of events. No one event (even an event such as 9/11) is not big enough to destroy and literally restart culture. There were a lot of things that were causing us to leave the "Y2K era". And to be honest if you really wanna look deep into it the changes from the Y2K era were already happening before 9/11 even begun. If 9/11 didn't happen the Y2K era wouldn't probably just ended around the same time. If it didn't end by Sept 11th 2001 it wouldn't would've been argued to end by Dec 31st, 2001 which isn't that big of a difference in the end. Overall Y2K era is just silly to me as I don't entirely get it. Late 90s/early 00s era is what I'll just stick with call it.

Pretty much The Entirety of the 'Millennium' Period is from Late 1997 through Early 2003. Fully years would be 1998-2002. The border time spans would be Late 1996-Mid 1997, the transitional phase between Core 90's-Millennium Period. Mid 2003-Early 2004 would be the transitional phase between the Millennium Period-Core 00's.

Within the Millennium period, aka the era in which 1990's culture or 2000's culture wasn't as distinct (of course the earlier and latter ends would lean to their respective time periods but there would be a reasonable amount of influences from the subsequent/prior time periods that would be enough to NOT put it firmly in their core decade' cultures, ie, Mid 97' through Early 99' is the Cultural Late 90's but there was some VERY Early 00's influences creeping up, alternatively Late 01' through Early 04' is the Cultural Early 00's but there was some VERY Late 90's influences still lingering around), I break up the time period like this:

Mid 1997 - Early 1999: Cultural Late 90's

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http://voguetheatremanistee.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Titanic-still-1.jpg
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Classic Late 90's Era Nickelodeon
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Mid 1999 - September 10th 2001: Y2K Era

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Classic Y2K Era Nickelodeon
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September 11th 2001 - Early 2004: Cultural Early 00's

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Classic Early 00's Era Nickelodeon
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This is pretty much how I've always seen it. 1998-2002 is the 'prime' Millennium Period, the transition from 90's to the 00's. The inclusion of 1997 & 2003 is also acceptable but most people would still claim those years as clearly leaning more 90's or 00's respectively. Finally the 'meat and potatoes' of the era was the Y2K Era from Mid 1999 to 2001. Basically the Turn of the Millennium and the general zeitgeist that coincided with it. Much more optimistic (minus Y2K) and peaceful than the political turbulence of the Late 90's (Lewinsky scandal) and the Early 00's (9/11 and Iraq War).

Pretty much The Entirety of the 'Millennium' Period is from Late 1997 through Early 2003. Fully years would be 1998-2002. The border time spans would be Late 1996-Mid 1997, the transitional phase between Core 90's-Millennium Period. Mid 2003-Early 2004 would be the transitional phase between the Millennium Period-Core 00's.

Within the Millennium period, aka the era in which 1990's culture or 2000's culture wasn't as distinct (of course the earlier and latter ends would lean to their respective time periods but there would be a reasonable amount of influences from the subsequent/prior time periods that would be enough to NOT put it firmly in their core decade' cultures, ie, Mid 97' through Early 99' is the Cultural Late 90's but there was some VERY Early 00's influences creeping up, alternatively Late 01' through Early 04' is the Cultural Early 00's but there was some VERY Late 90's influences still lingering around), I break up the time period like this:

Mid 1997 - Early 1999: Cultural Late 90's

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http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/gty_lewinsky_clinton_hillary_jc_140506_7x5_1600.jpg
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http://voguetheatremanistee.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Titanic-still-1.jpg
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Classic Late 90's Era Nickelodeon
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Mid 1999 - September 10th 2001: Y2K Era

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Classic Y2K Era Nickelodeon
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September 11th 2001 - Early 2004: Cultural Early 00's

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Classic Early 00's Era Nickelodeon
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This is pretty much how I've always seen it. 1998-2002 is the 'prime' Millennium Period, the transition from 90's to the 00's. The inclusion of 1997 & 2003 is also acceptable but most people would still claim those years as clearly leaning more 90's or 00's respectively. Finally the 'meat and potatoes' of the era was the Y2K Era from Mid 1999 to 2001. Basically the Turn of the Millennium and the general zeitgeist that coincided with it. Much more optimistic (minus Y2K) and peaceful than the political turbulence of the Late 90's (Lewinsky scandal) and the Early 00's (9/11 and Iraq War).

This was a pretty good post but just one thing. The original PlayStation was more popular than the Nintendo 64. Don't get me wrong both were great consoles and popular among kids from 1995-2000 but the PS1 outsold the N64 by far. 102.49 million units of the PlayStation were sold versus 32.93 million units of the Nintendo 64 were sold. I mean yeah, that's a HUUGE margin and the PS1 was the FIRST video game console to have 100 million units sold. I think you should of put a picture of both consoles.