seriously once 2007 hit a lot of the tv channels (Especially the cartoon channels) just went downhill in quality you had a few exceptions like (mad men) etc... but overall the late 00s was a pretty dark era for television.

I honestly don't know. In 2007, I was still enjoying Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. I stopped watching PBS Kids that year because that was when there was no Sagwa The Chinese Siamese Cat, no Between The Lions, no Clifford, etc. At least they still kept Billy and Mandy, Fosters and Codename: KND for a couple of years. So I kinda enjoyed the late 2000s.

I also enjoyed watching Chowder, Flapjack, Total Drama Island and Class of 3000 when it aired on Cartoon Network.

Cause people started losing interest in television.

Cause people started losing interest in television.


Well, online-subscription services like Netflix or Hulu wasn't that popular until the early 2010s.

Well, online-subscription services like Netflix or Hulu wasn't that popular until the early 2010s.



My Father likes Netflix.

Teletoon, YTV and Nicktoons started goung down hill in new productions and an over reliance on adobe flash and bone animation, with only a few execptions like el tigre and three delivery. Luckily the mid 00s saw an explosion in amazing, quality television that outnumbered production in later years, so, in general most programming on these networka was still good because they were either reruns or early to mid 00s productions still running at the time like Avatar: tlab.

In terms of non-cartoon television (which I watched more of since 07 since I transitioned to teenagehood), that faired better with good shows like Supernatural, Lost, Breaking bad and Harper's island. Not as good as ealier years, but certainly not "dark" unless you're talking about the dramas in literal terms.

I think this is very subjective. A lot of people have their own reasons for when TV started going downhill. It depends on which channels or genres you're referring to. When you started watching it most importantly, your best memories from the channel, and when your favorite shows started leaving the channel for mediocre ones, or if you have an analysis on why you think the channel abandoned itself for what it was originally created for. Here's the most common cutoffs for when TV or certain channels for that matter went downhill. 9/11, 2004, 2006, or 2007 like in this thread.

Now some people tend to say after 9/11 because they think that a lot of channels stop taking risks and turned for the worse, reality TV started taking over networks like MTV for example. However, some channels like Food Network, didn't really start having too many reality shows until the late 2000's. I remember back in the day when G4 used to just focus on video games or game shows before they took a turn for the worse later on. I think 9/11 is the most stupidest cutoff and doesn't make any sense to me.

A lot of people think 2004 because their favorite kid channels like Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, or Toon Disney got rid of all of their 90's cartoon reruns or cancelled so many early 2000's shows and took a turn for the worse. Some people say TV went on a huge decline in 2006, and I could come up with so many reasons why a lot of channels started getting bad in 2006, IMO 2006 was the year Kids WB and Disney Channel started going downhill. While certain primetime shows had ended and blocks like Monday Night Football on ABC came to an end. Then last but not least 2007, but 2007 was just the final nail in the coffin for me.

So all I'm saying is that it's really an opinion, not everybody thinks TV went downhill in 2007, but I'll say one thing, TV has definitely changed over the years. There was another thread in the 90's section that asked if the 90's decade was the last decade of the television event. Like that living room culture with your family/friends of primetime live-action shows on TV on networks like ABC, WB, FOX, UPN, CBS, etc. Whatever but yeah you get the point. Live-action sitcoms, cartoons, sports, anything. It's debatable.

If I had to pick a year cartoons on TV went on a decline, it would definitely be 2004 without a doubt, but for the years there were pretty much no more good cartoons on TV, that would be around 2006ish/early 2007 before all the leftovers were completely gone by 2008. As for live-action sitcoms, if you're talking about the big ones that had cultural impacts like Family Matters, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Friends, Malcolm in the Middle, etc. Any of those primetime TV ones, I honestly think that's subjective. Cause you still had good ones like How I Met Your Mother or Everybody Hates Chris. As for sitcoms on Disney Channel definitely 2006 (which was a transitional year) before all the good ones were gone by 2007.

As for today, TV is different now, and since we're in the digital age, if you miss them on TV, then you have Netflix or Hulu, it seems like the popular live-action shows on TV these days are based off DC/Marvel like Gotham, The Flash, Arrow, Marvel Agents of Shield, or Scifi/Horror shows like Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, etc.

If anybody really is wondering on what I think TV channels (especially the cartoon ones) went downhill, that will be around 2009 to 2011. I could say 2009 because that was when Toon Disney and Nickelodeon started to go down the sheeshter, and that they ruined both of their channels to me with Nickelodeon's godawful logo change, and Toon Disney's rebrand. 2010 was when it seem to get worse, because not only they ended Chowder and Flapjack, they also rebranded Cartoon Network in a way that Stuart Snyder fudgeed it up. 2011 was when they hit the final nail in the coffin to me, when they fudgeed up HBO with Game Of Thrones. I mean, after the show premiered, it was fudgeing everywhere. And it's just a Lord of the Rings fanfiction while George R.R. Martin has a money bath whenever his new installment of the book series gets released on book stores nationwide. I can say that Cartoon Network is finally getting better because We Bare Bears premieres today at 6:30, along with their new PPG reboot coming out in 2016, but I wouldn't get excited that much.

If anybody really is wondering on what I think TV channels (especially the cartoon ones) went downhill, that will be around 2009 to 2011. I could say 2009 because that was when Toon Disney and Nickelodeon started to go down the sheeshter, and that they ruined both of their channels to me with Nickelodeon's godawful logo change, and Toon Disney's rebrand. 2010 was when it seem to get worse, because not only they ended Chowder and Flapjack, they also rebranded Cartoon Network in a way that Stuart Snyder fudgeed it up. 2011 was when they hit the final nail in the coffin to me, when they fudgeed up HBO with Game Of Thrones. I mean, after the show premiered, it was fudgeing everywhere. And it's just a Lord of the Rings fanfiction while George R.R. Martin has a money bath whenever his new installment of the book series gets released on book stores nationwide. I can say that Cartoon Network is finally getting better because We Bare Bears premieres today at 6:30, along with their new PPG reboot coming out in 2016, but I wouldn't get excited that much.

Age plays a MAJOR factor in your opinion! Honestly  Nick went downhill for me and people my age in 2004 when teen nick was introduced! Cartoon Netowrk wasn't the same for me as well when the city era began although that was good until 06! Disney channel for me started to suck in 2006 when HSM and Hannah Montana premiered. But you were still pretty young during those periods, so I can see why that 2009-2011 period was the turning point for you!

I honestly don't know. In 2007, I was still enjoying Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. I stopped watching PBS Kids that year because that was when there was no Sagwa The Chinese Siamese Cat, no Between The Lions, no Clifford, etc. At least they still kept Billy and Mandy, Fosters and Codename: KND for a couple of years. So I kinda enjoyed the late 2000s.

You were still pretty DAMN young in the late 00s so I can see why you enjoyed the late 00s kid stuff! :)

I think this is very subjective. A lot of people have their own reasons for when TV started going downhill. It depends on which channels or genres you're referring to. When you started watching it most importantly, your best memories from the channel, and when your favorite shows started leaving the channel for mediocre ones, or if you have an analysis on why you think the channel abandoned itself for what it was originally created for. Here's the most common cutoffs for when TV or certain channels for that matter went downhill. 9/11, 2004, 2006, or 2007 like in this thread.

Now some people tend to say after 9/11 because they think that a lot of channels stop taking risks and turned for the worse, reality TV started taking over networks like MTV for example. However, some channels like Food Network, didn't really start having too many reality shows until the late 2000's. I remember back in the day when G4 used to just focus on video games or game shows before they took a turn for the worse later on. I think 9/11 is the most stupidest cutoff and doesn't make any sense to me.

A lot of people think 2004 because their favorite kid channels like Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, or Toon Disney got rid of all of their 90's cartoon reruns or cancelled so many early 2000's shows and took a turn for the worse. Some people say TV went on a huge decline in 2006, and I could come up with so many reasons why a lot of channels started getting bad in 2006, IMO 2006 was the year Kids WB and Disney Channel started going downhill. While certain primetime shows had ended and blocks like Monday Night Football on ABC came to an end. Then last but not least 2007, but 2007 was just the final nail in the coffin for me.

So all I'm saying is that it's really an opinion, not everybody thinks TV went downhill in 2007, but I'll say one thing, TV has definitely changed over the years. There was another thread in the 90's section that asked if the 90's decade was the last decade of the television event. Like that living room culture with your family/friends of primetime live-action shows on TV on networks like ABC, WB, FOX, UPN, CBS, etc. Whatever but yeah you get the point. Live-action sitcoms, cartoons, sports, anything. It's debatable.

If I had to pick a year cartoons on TV went on a decline, it would definitely be 2004 without a doubt, but for the years there were pretty much no more good cartoons on TV, that would be around 2006ish/early 2007 before all the leftovers were completely gone by 2008. As for live-action sitcoms, if you're talking about the big ones that had cultural impacts like Family Matters, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Friends, Malcolm in the Middle, etc. Any of those primetime TV ones, I honestly think that's subjective. Cause you still had good ones like How I Met Your Mother or Everybody Hates Chris. As for sitcoms on Disney Channel definitely 2006 (which was a transitional year) before all the good ones were gone by 2007.

As for today, TV is different now, and since we're in the digital age, if you miss them on TV, then you have Netflix or Hulu, it seems like the popular live-action shows on TV these days are based off DC/Marvel like Gotham, The Flash, Arrow, Marvel Agents of Shield, or Scifi/Horror shows like Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, etc.


Yeah I agree with this! As someone who's an expert at kids channels I would say 2004 was the turning point year. For me Nickelodeon & Cartoon Network started to go downhill in this year.

For Nick it was because they cancelled all of their late 90's/early 00's shows like Hey Arnold & Rocket Power, they got rid of their 90's reruns of shows like Rocko's Modern Life & Doug, they rebranded SNICK & it became TEENICK (which wasn't as good). So yeah Nick's lineup was starting to get sparse around this time.

Same with CN, they cancelled alot of their shows, they put all of the reruns on Boomerang, they rebranded Toonami and only put it on Saturdays (though the shows were still good), and they changed the checkboard logo to a more modernish CN logo.

So yeah 2004 was bitter sweet in many ways but I still watched these networks regularly till about 2006 or so. Around then I felt the networks were really starting to get bad. Heck for most of 5th grade (06-07) I only watched CN for Toonami & Nick for the tween shows like Drake and Josh, Ned Declassified, & Zoey 101.

Besides that I didn't really care for the cartoons at the time with the exception of Avatar the Last Airbender and Camp Lazlo.

Sigh...

The writers strike of 2007-08 really hurt a lot of shows and some never recovered.  As a result, there was a notable shift in TV around that time.

You were still pretty DAMN young in the late 00s so I can see why you enjoyed the late 00s kid stuff! :)


Well yeah. Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon still had the logos that I loved until 2009/2010. But I didn't really watch HBO's original programming until I was 14. Because watching stuff like The Sopranos, The Wire and Six Feet Under at a very young age isn't good for you.

Age plays a MAJOR factor in your opinion! Honestly  Nick went downhill for me and people my age in 2004 when teen nick was introduced! Cartoon Netowrk wasn't the same for me as well when the city era began although that was good until 06! Disney channel for me started to suck in 2006 when HSM and Hannah Montana premiered. But you were still pretty young during those periods, so I can see why that 2009-2011 period was the turning point for you!


2006 was the transitional year for Disney Channel. The last year it was watchable for the shows left but at the same time the year it started getting bad. As soon as that year hit. The premiere of Hannah Montana. The premiere of High School Musical, which changed the direction Disney Channel went in. Cheetah Girls was from 2003, even though I wasn't into that movie, even then Disney Channel still managed to stay diverse, after High School Musical premiered Disney Channel no longer did that. Mediocre cartoons like the Replacements premiered which I had no interest in. The final season of That's So Raven. The final season of Lilo & Stitch: The Series. The final season of American Dragon Jake Long. The last few episodes of Phil of the Future. Season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody. The last season of Kim Possible which actually ran through the 1st half of 2007. Reruns of House of Mouse were removed. Reruns of Proud Family, Dave the Barbarian, and Brandy & Mr. Whiskers were put into some midnight time-slots when people could hardly catch those. Reruns of Sister Sister, Lizzie McGuire, and Even Stevens were all removed that year as well. All of these changes happened throughout 2006 until the year 2007 hit, and after That's So Raven, Kim Possible, and the rest of the classics went off the air, it was totally dead and Disney Channel was in a new era. New shows like Cory in the House, JONAS, or Wizards of Waverly Place would come on the scene and by then the network was totally dead to me. IMHO the ONLY decent Disney Channel shows left from that point on were Phineas & Ferb and Suite Life on Deck (even though I never liked "On Deck" I still give it some credit). But either way, those two shows weren't enough to save the network from the rest of its horrendous programming. I don't even know what the heck is on Disney Channel today, haven't known what's been on there since the late 2000's.

2006 was the transitional year for Disney Channel. The last year it was watchable for the shows left but at the same time the year it started getting bad. As soon as that year hit. The premiere of Hannah Montana. The premiere of High School Musical, which changed the direction Disney Channel went in. Cheetah Girls was from 2003, even though I wasn't into that movie, even then Disney Channel still managed to stay diverse, after High School Musical premiered Disney Channel no longer did that. Mediocre cartoons like the Replacements premiered which I had no interest in. The final season of That's So Raven. The final season of Lilo & Stitch: The Series. The final season of American Dragon Jake Long. The last few episodes of Phil of the Future. Season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody. The last season of Kim Possible which actually ran through the 1st half of 2007. Reruns of House of Mouse were removed. Reruns of Proud Family, Dave the Barbarian, and Brandy & Mr. Whiskers were put into some midnight time-slots when people could hardly catch those. Reruns of Sister Sister, Lizzie McGuire, and Even Stevens were all removed that year as well. All of these changes happened throughout 2006 until the year 2007 hit, and after That's So Raven, Kim Possible, and the rest of the classics went off the air, it was totally dead and Disney Channel was in a new era. New shows like Cory in the House, JONAS, or Wizards of Waverly Place would come on the scene and by then the network was totally dead to me. IMHO the ONLY decent Disney Channel shows left from that point on were Phineas & Ferb and Suite Life on Deck (even though I never liked "On Deck" I still give it some credit). But either way, those two shows weren't enough to save the network from the rest of its horrendous programming. I don't even know what the heck is on Disney Channel today, haven't known what's been on there since the late 2000's.


They just ended Phineas and Ferb with that last summer episode, Jonas probably ended a long time ago, Wizards of Waverly Place ended around early 2012 and I honestly don't care about their other sheesh. I wasn't a big fan of Disney's sitcoms back then.

Yeah I agree with this! As someone who's an expert at kids channels I would say 2004 was the turning point year. For me Nickelodeon & Cartoon Network started to go downhill in this year.

For Nick it was because they cancelled all of their late 90's/early 00's shows like Hey Arnold & Rocket Power, they got rid of their 90's reruns of shows like Rocko's Modern Life & Doug, they rebranded SNICK & it became TEENICK (which wasn't as good). So yeah Nick's lineup was starting to get sparse around this time.

Same with CN, they cancelled alot of their shows, they put all of the reruns on Boomerang, they rebranded Toonami and only put it on Saturdays (though the shows were still good), and they changed the checkboard logo to a more modernish CN logo.

So yeah 2004 was bitter sweet in many ways but I still watched these networks regularly till about 2006 or so. Around then I felt the networks were really starting to get bad. Heck for most of 5th grade (06-07) I only watched CN for Toonami & Nick for the tween shows like Drake and Josh, Ned Declassified, & Zoey 101.

Besides that I didn't really care for the cartoons at the time with the exception of Avatar the Last Airbender and Camp Lazlo.

Sigh...


That 5th grade school year was bleh :P you're right. As for Nickelodeon yeah at least you still had Drake & Josh, Ned Declassified, Zoey 101, Danny Phantom (although it was about to end), and Avatar: the Last Airbender. At the time even then most of the Spongebob and Fairly Odd Parents were old ones but that was around the time those started getting played more. The Nicktoons went on a huge decline. Not sure about the rest though but you can tell me that ;D

Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy, Ed, Edd n Eddy, Camp Lazlo, Ben 10, and Codename: KND were the only shows left by then that I liked. Cartoon Cartoon Show/Top 5 if I didn't forget to watch it when it came on once a week but I'd forget A LOT lol. As for Toonami, after Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited ended that's when I lost interest in the block. I could never get into Yu-Gi-Oh 5D's, Naruto, or that Fantastic Four show during that school year, speaking of that school year, that was around the time TOM 4 debuted 8-P

Kids WB also died for me around that time as well, but that was actually earlier in 2006 I believe. After Jackie Chan Adventures, Xiaolin Showdown, and Mucha Lucha left the block, I stopped watching it completely. I could never get into Loonatics Unleased, Scooby & Shaggy Get A Clue, Johnny Test, or some of those cheap Cookie Jar shows. When the WB switched to the CW, here in the Atlanta, GA area Kids WB was moved to Sunday mornings on CW and I had to go to church those days. There was no way I could watch it anymore but the lineup of shows never interested me by then anyways. As a result the block was cancelled in 2008.

2006 was the transitional year for Disney Channel. The last year it was watchable for the shows left but at the same time the year it started getting bad. As soon as that year hit. The premiere of Hannah Montana. The premiere of High School Musical, which changed the direction Disney Channel went in. Cheetah Girls was from 2003, even though I wasn't into that movie, even then Disney Channel still managed to stay diverse, after High School Musical premiered Disney Channel no longer did that. Mediocre cartoons like the Replacements premiered which I had no interest in. The final season of That's So Raven. The final season of Lilo & Stitch: The Series. The final season of American Dragon Jake Long. The last few episodes of Phil of the Future. Season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody. The last season of Kim Possible which actually ran through the 1st half of 2007. Reruns of House of Mouse were removed. Reruns of Proud Family, Dave the Barbarian, and Brandy & Mr. Whiskers were put into some midnight time-slots when people could hardly catch those. Reruns of Sister Sister, Lizzie McGuire, and Even Stevens were all removed that year as well. All of these changes happened throughout 2006 until the year 2007 hit, and after That's So Raven, Kim Possible, and the rest of the classics went off the air, it was totally dead and Disney Channel was in a new era. New shows like Cory in the House, JONAS, or Wizards of Waverly Place would come on the scene and by then the network was totally dead to me. IMHO the ONLY decent Disney Channel shows left from that point on were Phineas & Ferb and Suite Life on Deck (even though I never liked "On Deck" I still give it some credit). But either way, those two shows weren't enough to save the network from the rest of its horrendous programming. I don't even know what the heck is on Disney Channel today, haven't known what's been on there since the late 2000's.
I have that covered. The shows are Jessie, Dog with a Blog, Liv & Maddie, Girl meets World, and Austin & Ally. Unfortunately, there are no cartoons on that channel. As of right now, 2 of them are supposed to end this year. I've checked the schedule a few times and it's awful. There's no diversity. I feel like even the kids of today don't watch the channel. Hell, I have watched them and they are horrible.

That 5th grade school year was bleh :P you're right. As for Nickelodeon yeah at least you still had Drake & Josh, Ned Declassified, Zoey 101, Danny Phantom (although it was about to end), and Avatar: the Last Airbender. At the time even then most of the Spongebob and Fairly Odd Parents were old ones but that was around the time those started getting played more. The Nicktoons went on a huge decline. Not sure about the rest though but you can tell me that ;D


I thought you stopped watching Nickelodeon after they ended Avatar. Which puts in a lot of crap for you to be informed about in 2008. Like of how Poof was a new character on FOP and that people think Spongebob is going down the sheeshter even more.

I have that covered. The shows are Jessie, Dog with a Blog, Liv & Maddie, Girl meets World, and Austin & Ally. Unfortunately, there are no cartoons on that channel. As of right now, 2 of them are supposed to end this year. I've checked the schedule a few times and it's awful. There's no diversity. I feel like even the kids of today don't watch the channel. Hell, I have watched them and they are horrible.


I bet that kids today wouldn't really watch it that much. Instead, they would usually watch Nickelodeon (due to Spongebob and FOP still being around) and Cartoon Network (due to shows like Regular Show, Adventure Time and We Bare Bears making kids, teens and adults laugh).

I thought you stopped watching Nickelodeon after they ended Avatar. Which puts in a lot of crap for you to be informed about in 2008. Like of how Poof was a new character on FOP and that people think Spongebob is going down the sheeshter even more.


I did stop after Avatar: The Last Airbender ended in 2008, like I said the mid-2000's Nickelodeon sitcoms started ending around 2007ish I think. However, I was talking about how the nicktoons were declining around the time though, not when I stopped watching Nickelodeon altogether.

I bet that kids today wouldn't really watch it that much. Instead, they would usually watch Nickelodeon (due to Spongebob and FOP still being around) and Cartoon Network (due to shows like Regular Show, Adventure Time and We Bare Bears making kids, teens and adults laugh).
I see them definitely watching CN, but Nickelodeon I don't think so. Right now, that channel is doing terrible. They need to add more variety and much better cartoons as well as the live action shows. I've seen S&C and Breadwinners and they are not doing well as I thought. In addition, the sitcoms such RND&D, Max Shred, and Henry Danger are mediocre (The Thundermans is the only one I feel that's doing well).

I see them definitely watching CN, but Nickelodeon I don't think so. Right now, that channel is doing terrible. They need to add more variety and much better cartoons as well as the live action shows. I've seen S&C and Breadwinners and they are not doing well as I thought. In addition, the sitcoms such RND&D, Max Shred, and Henry Danger are mediocre (The Thundermans is the only one I feel that's doing well).


I can see why Sanjay & Craig and Breadwinners not doing well, since their ratings are really low. Their sitcoms, I can get that they suck obviously, since nobody would ever watch them. Even the Thundermans just suck so much, that I wish they were cancelled.

I can see why Sanjay & Craig and Breadwinners not doing well, since their ratings are really low. Their sitcoms, I can get that they suck obviously, since nobody would ever watch them. Even the Thundermans just suck so much, that I wish they were cancelled.


Honestly the reason why Nick has been on a never ending decline for the last decade is because they are trying to be like Disney Channel. I mean If you objectively look at their scheduling in the 90's & early 00's, Nick's main priorities were their Nicktoons. I saw this as a kid, they would show you the new Nicktoons like As Told By Ginger & Invader Zim, & reruns of the old ones like Doug & Angry Beavers, heck even shows like Rugrats & Hey Arnold ran well into the 00's as well.

However around 2005/6 as Disney Channel was getting good ratings from shows like Zack & Cody and Hannah Montana, Nickelodeon felt threatened, so they started to compete with Disney. This resulted with some good sitcoms like Drake & Josh & Ned Declassified, decent ones like Zoey 101 & iCarly, & plain bad ones like True Jackson VP & Victorious (though I will admit this show was a guilty pleasure of mine because of Victoria Justice ;)).

Since the mid-late 00's, especially with the ending of Avatar, Nickelodeon has been more worried about the tween market and live action shows. This is evidence by the countless reruns of Spongebob & FOP and also why new Nicktoons like Breadwinners & Sanjay and Crag usually do not do well

Honestly the reason why Nick has been on a never ending decline for the last decade is because they are trying to be like Disney Channel. I mean If you objectively look at their scheduling in the 90's & early 00's, Nick's main priorities were their Nicktoons. I saw this as a kid, they would show you the new Nicktoons like As Told By Ginger & Invader Zim, & reruns of the old ones like Doug & Angry Beavers, heck even shows like Rugrats & Hey Arnold ran well into the 00's as well.

However around 2005/6 as Disney Channel was getting good ratings from shows like Zack & Cody and Hannah Montana, Nickelodeon felt threatened, so they started to compete with Disney. This resulted with some good sitcoms like Drake & Josh & Ned Declassified, decent ones like Zoey 101 & iCarly, & plain bad ones like True Jackson VP & Victorious (though I will admit this show was a guilty pleasure of mine because of Victoria Justice ;)).

Since the mid-late 00's, especially with the ending of Avatar, Nickelodeon has been more worried about the tween market and live action shows. This is evidence by the countless reruns of Spongebob & FOP and also why new Nicktoons like Breadwinners & Sanjay and Crag usually do not do well


But if they're trying to make more shows for the tween market, then why are Spongebob and FOP still on the air? Nobody really wants to watch them anymore and that they need to move on from them.

I can see why Sanjay & Craig and Breadwinners not doing well, since their ratings are really low. Their sitcoms, I can get that they suck obviously, since nobody would ever watch them. Even the Thundermans just suck so much, that I wish they were cancelled.
Yeah. That's why Nickelodeon needs a serious overhaul. If they don't, they may lose the rest of their audience and might become defunct. I hope one day they rise again and make great quality and decent cartoons and live-action shows. That will put them back on track.


Honestly the reason why Nick has been on a never ending decline for the last decade is because they are trying to be like Disney Channel. I mean If you objectively look at their scheduling in the 90's & early 00's, Nick's main priorities were their Nicktoons. I saw this as a kid, they would show you the new Nicktoons like As Told By Ginger & Invader Zim, & reruns of the old ones like Doug & Angry Beavers, heck even shows like Rugrats & Hey Arnold ran well into the 00's as well.

However around 2005/6 as Disney Channel was getting good ratings from shows like Zack & Cody and Hannah Montana, Nickelodeon felt threatened, so they started to compete with Disney. This resulted with some good sitcoms like Drake & Josh & Ned Declassified, decent ones like Zoey 101 & iCarly, & plain bad ones like True Jackson VP & Victorious (though I will admit this show was a guilty pleasure of mine because of Victoria Justice ;)).

Since the mid-late 00's, especially with the ending of Avatar, Nickelodeon has been more worried about the tween market and live action shows. This is evidence by the countless reruns of Spongebob & FOP and also why new Nicktoons like Breadwinners & Sanjay and Crag usually do not do well
I wonder what made them go the Disney way? Both channels were actually fantastic and had their own fan base. Now, neither one of them is doing well. Ever since they competed against each other, they haven't been able to produce good quality shows aside from some. They really are in need of a overhaul. They should look at CN and see how well they are doing. That might make them think they need to do a better job as a kids network and produce their own shows and cartoons, so that they can stop competing with each other and have their own fan base again.

Yeah. That's why Nickelodeon needs a serious overhaul. If they don't, they may lose the rest of their audience and might become defunct. I hope one day they rise again and make great quality and decent cartoons and live-action shows. That will put them back on track.


Yeah, but I'm not sure if Nickelodeon's top executives would agree on getting a serious overhaul. I mean, they just care about the money. Which is why they keep airing countless reruns of Spongebob and FOP over and over again to get lots of money from their merchandise and DVDs. Unless you try to negotiate with them, it's not going to work.

Mediocre cartoons like the Replacements

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Yeah, but I'm not sure if Nickelodeon's top executives would agree on getting a serious overhaul. I mean, they just care about the money. Which is why they keep airing countless reruns of Spongebob and FOP over and over again to get lots of money from their merchandise and DVDs. Unless you try to negotiate with them, it's not going to work.
Well, they really need one. It may be about the money; however, the executives may have forgot that the network had a large fan base that watched everything that was on. With the corporation keep using those tactics, they will lose the the rest of their fans and the channel might disappear altogether. That's why Nickelodeon needs to bring new ideas to the plate and begin a revival age like CN did a few years ago. Along with that, they also need to bring back the diversity and then, Nickelodeon will be once what it was again. I'm hoping they change within the next few years from now.

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Well, he said that he barely watched Disney Channel in the late 2000s, so he's not that much of a manchild. Even though I don't really know what his favorite show is.

Well, he said that he barely watched Disney Channel in the late 2000s, so he's not that much of a manchild. Even though I don't really know what his favorite show is.


My favorite Disney Channel show of all time was That's So Raven, I was in 1st grade when that show first premiered and I loved all of seasons 1-3, I didn't like season 4 that much though. I never cared for the spinoff Cory in the House. Phil of the Future, Even Stevens, and Suite Life of Zack & Cody (seasons 1-2) were some of my other favorites as well. As for my favorite cartoons of Disney Channel, I don't know which one I could pick. The Proud Family was the best African American cartoon of this day & age, that show had so many great pop culture references and it was hilarious. Kim Possible and American Dragon Jake Long were some of my other favorites as well. Dave the Barbarian was CRAZY as hell. 2002-2005 was the peak of Disney Channel for me. Suite Life on Deck (even though I never cared for it) and Phineas & Ferb (I actually watched many episodes of the 1st couple of seasons and loved it) were the ONLY good shows left made from Disney Channel after 2005. 2006 was the transitional year for Disney Channel when the great shows were finishing off and the bad shows started coming up. 2007 up to now it's totally dead af to me.

As I've mentioned before—and I know younger 00s kids (very late 90s, early 00s borns) will disagree with me here—I feel like Cartoon Network started going downhill around 2004-2005, then just completely died in 2006.

First off, they lost very good shows like "Gundam Wing", "Samurai Jack", "Sailor Moon", "Dexter's Lab", and "Courage the Cowardly Dog" and replaced them with total and utter **** like "Puffy ami-yumi", "Squirrel Boy", "My Gym Partner Is a Monkey", and "Camp Lazlo".

Second, the original "Cartoon Cartoon Fridays" we all know and love was replaced by the live-action "Fridays". It started off ok, but by 2006, had degraded into annoying antics. They tried to save themselves by hiring popular bands such as Bowling for Soup, Jonas Brothers, and Cartel...and some not-so-popular bands such as Los Lonely Boys.

Third, Adult Swim also slipped. From 2001-2004, they were a genuine slice of heaven, coolness, and intrigue, but since 2005 they have done nothing but overplay reruns of Family Guy (a show that used to be funny, but is now an abomination).

As I've mentioned before—and I know younger 00s kids (very late 90s, early 00s borns) will disagree with me here—I feel like Cartoon Network started going downhill around 2004-2005, then just completely died in 2006.

First off, they lost very good shows like "Gundam Wing", "Samurai Jack", "Sailor Moon", "Dexter's Lab", and "Courage the Cowardly Dog" and replaced them with total and utter **** like "Puffy ami-yumi", "Squirrel Boy", "My Gym Partner Is a Monkey", and "Camp Lazlo".

Second, the original "Cartoon Cartoon Fridays" we all know and love was replaced by the live-action "Fridays". It started off ok, but by 2006, had degraded into annoying antics. They tried to save themselves by hiring popular bands such as Bowling for Soup, Jonas Brothers, and Cartel...and some not-so-popular bands such as Los Lonely Boys.

Third, Adult Swim also slipped. From 2001-2004, they were a genuine slice of heaven, coolness, and intrigue, but since 2005 they have done nothing but overplay reruns of Family Guy (a show that used to be funny, but is now an abomination).


I respect your opinion and I was born in December 1999.

Cause a newer generation came about.

My favorite Disney Channel show of all time was That's So Raven, I was in 1st grade when that show first premiered and I loved all of seasons 1-3, I didn't like season 4 that much though. I never cared for the spinoff Cory in the House. Phil of the Future, Even Stevens, and Suite Life of Zack & Cody (seasons 1-2) were some of my other favorites as well. As for my favorite cartoons of Disney Channel, I don't know which one I could pick. The Proud Family was the best African American cartoon of this day & age, that show had so many great pop culture references and it was hilarious. Kim Possible and American Dragon Jake Long were some of my other favorites as well. Dave the Barbarian was CRAZY as hell. 2002-2005 was the peak of Disney Channel for me. Suite Life on Deck (even though I never cared for it) and Phineas & Ferb (I actually watched many episodes of the 1st couple of seasons and loved it) were the ONLY good shows left made from Disney Channel after 2005. 2006 was the transitional year for Disney Channel when the great shows were finishing off and the bad shows started coming up. 2007 up to now it's totally dead af to me.


Yeah Disney Channel was at its best between 1997-2005. Basically the Zoog Era of 1997-2002 and the early modern Disney Channel Era of 2003-2005. Since 2006 the channel has fell off big time.

One thing I noticed thought is that the decline of channels like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network were more gradual.

Many people believe Nick started to decline the minute Spongebob first aired, not because it was a bad show, but it was too successful for its own good. By 2004/5 Nickelodeon has been high on Spongebob and its been like that ever since. Because of this the channel is too afraid of trying new ideas, and usually those ideas only last a couple seasons (for instance think of most of the Nicktoons that premiered since 2005 and notice how a lot of them usually only last for a season or two unlike in the past when Nicktoons usually last more than 3 seasons).

The same could be said with CN, they started to decline when in 2004 they basically took anything made before 1997 off their network and put it on Boomerang. Thus only embracing new cartoons, and for a network that had historically embraced both old and new this pissed off many fans.

However, Disney Channel IMO never actually declined in the same way the other networks did, they just changed overnight. Like right when 2006 came, Hannah Montana & High School Musical premiered and this was what some might argue when Disney Channel died.

But I would like to hear some of your opinions and if you guys noticed what I observed over the years

Yeah Disney Channel was at its best between 1997-2005. Basically the Zoog Era of 1997-2002 and the early modern Disney Channel Era of 2003-2005. Since 2006 the channel has fell off big time.

One thing I noticed thought is that the decline of channels like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network were more gradual.

Many people believe Nick started to decline the minute Spongebob first aired, not because it was a bad show, but it was too successful for its own good. By 2004/5 Nickelodeon has been high on Spongebob and its been like that ever since. Because of this the channel is too afraid of trying new ideas, and usually those ideas only last a couple seasons (for instance think of most of the Nicktoons that premiered since 2005 and notice how a lot of them usually only last for a season or two unlike in the past when Nicktoons usually last more than 3 seasons).

The same could be said with CN, they started to decline when in 2004 they basically took anything made before 1997 off their network and put it on Boomerang. Thus only embracing new cartoons, and for a network that had historically embraced both old and new this pissed off many fans.

However, Disney Channel IMO never actually declined in the same way the other networks did, they just changed overnight. Like right when 2006 came, Hannah Montana & High School Musical premiered and this was what some might argue when Disney Channel died.

But I would like to hear some of your opinions and if you guys noticed what I observed over the years


Yeah, I think my opinions on Cartoon Network, Disney Channel and Nickelodeon are different than you guys. For one, I actually think that those channels sucked since 2009 to the early 2010s, since CN and Nick changed their logos from that era. Secondly, I really enjoyed most of their stuff from the mid and late 2000s. Hell, even Chowder was one of my favorite Cartoon Network shows. I enjoyed watching every new episode whenever it's on.

Cause a newer generation came about.


I hope they try to make better shows for the next generation.

Yeah Disney Channel was at its best between 1997-2005. Basically the Zoog Era of 1997-2002 and the early modern Disney Channel Era of 2003-2005. Since 2006 the channel has fell off big time.

One thing I noticed thought is that the decline of channels like Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network were more gradual.

Many people believe Nick started to decline the minute Spongebob first aired, not because it was a bad show, but it was too successful for its own good. By 2004/5 Nickelodeon has been high on Spongebob and its been like that ever since. Because of this the channel is too afraid of trying new ideas, and usually those ideas only last a couple seasons (for instance think of most of the Nicktoons that premiered since 2005 and notice how a lot of them usually only last for a season or two unlike in the past when Nicktoons usually last more than 3 seasons).

The same could be said with CN, they started to decline when in 2004 they basically took anything made before 1997 off their network and put it on Boomerang. Thus only embracing new cartoons, and for a network that had historically embraced both old and new this pissed off many fans.

However, Disney Channel IMO never actually declined in the same way the other networks did, they just changed overnight. Like right when 2006 came, Hannah Montana & High School Musical premiered and this was what some might argue when Disney Channel died.

But I would like to hear some of your opinions and if you guys noticed what I observed over the years


True, it seemed like it changed overnight, however, I wouldn't say Disney Channel died right away as soon as 2006 hit, like I said in my previous comment 2006-early 2007 was the transitional period for Disney Channel when it went downhill really fast, because even though Hannah Montana came in 2006, even throughout that year you still had the last season of That's So Raven, the last season of Phil of the Future, season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody, the last season of Kim Possible, the last season of Lilo & Stitch, and the last season of American Dragon Jake Long, also reruns of Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, and Proud Family were removed that year as well. It's just that 2006 was just very transitional, and by mid/late 2007 the Miley Cyrus/JONAS/Selena Gomez era was in full effect and all of the classics like That's So Raven, Phil of the Future, and all the rest of the cartoons were completely off the air. So 2006-early 2007 was the downfall of Disney Channel, mid/late 2007 was the official death.

True, it seemed like it changed overnight, however, I wouldn't say Disney Channel died right away as soon as 2006 hit, like I said in my previous comment 2006-early 2007 was the transitional period for Disney Channel when it went downhill really fast, because even though Hannah Montana came in 2006, even throughout that year you still had the last season of That's So Raven, the last season of Phil of the Future, season 2 of Suite Life of Zack & Cody, the last season of Kim Possible, the last season of Lilo & Stitch, and the last season of American Dragon Jake Long, also reruns of Lizzie McGuire, Even Stevens, and Proud Family were removed that year as well. It's just that 2006 was just very transitional, and by mid/late 2007 the Miley Cyrus/JONAS/Selena Gomez era was in full effect and all of the classics like That's So Raven, Phil of the Future, and all the rest of the cartoons were completely off the air. So 2006-early 2007 was the downfall of Disney Channel, mid/late 2007 was the official death.


True! The transition was much faster than Nickeoldeon & CN. Here's how I see it:

Nickelodeon: 1999-2004 Slight Decline but still good; 2004-2006 decline starts to become unbearable; 2006-2007 dies off

Cartoon Network: 2004-2006 Slight Decline but still good; 2006-2007 decline starts to become unbearable; 2007-2008 dies off

Disney Channel: 2006-2007 full force decline; 2007-2008 dies off

True! The transition was much faster than Nickeoldeon & CN. Here's how I see it:

Nickelodeon: 1999-2004 Slight Decline but still good; 2004-2006 decline starts to become unbearable; 2006-2007 dies off

Cartoon Network: 2004-2006 Slight Decline but still good; 2006-2007 decline starts to become unbearable; 2007-2008 dies off

Disney Channel: 2006-2007 full force decline; 2007-2008 dies off


Well, at least you still had Avatar until 2008. :D

I hope they try to make better shows for the next generation.


better shows that the newer generation could understand.

better shows that the newer generation could understand.


Well, today's kids could understand cartoons from their generation, as most cartoons nowadays are targeted to children.

Yeah, I think my opinions on Cartoon Network, Disney Channel and Nickelodeon are different than you guys. For one, I actually think that those channels sucked since 2009 to the early 2010s, since CN and Nick changed their logos from that era. Secondly, I really enjoyed most of their stuff from the mid and late 2000s. Hell, even Chowder was one of my favorite Cartoon Network shows. I enjoyed watching every new episode whenever it's on.

Yes you're younger than we are! ;)  Of course you're views will be different!!

Well, at least you still had Avatar until 2008. :D

that DOES NOT count!!! ;D ;D 

that DOES NOT count!!! ;D ;D


:( Why? Didn't most people enjoyed Avatar when it was on?

:( Why? Didn't most people enjoyed Avatar when it was on?

Avatar was a great series, but NICK's glory days were LONG gone!!!

Avatar was a great series, but NICK's glory days were LONG gone!!!


So, the only time that Nickelodeon was great by your memories, was the early and mid 2000s?

So, the only time that Nickelodeon was great by your memories, was the early and mid 2000s?

By my memories of Nick yes, 1998/99-2003/04 ish! Looking back on some the kids networks of the mid 00s; Nick was just decent in the mid 00s, Cartoon Network was still good, just not as good as before. Disney Channel was still great though! Kids WB was even still the bomb! Jetix was only good for it's time! ABC Kids and Fox Box sucked during these years though! ;D ;D

By my memories of Nick yes, 1998/99-2003/04 ish! Looking back on some the kids networks of the mid 00s; Nick was just decent in the mid 00s, Cartoon Network was still good, just not as good as before. Disney Channel was still great though! Kids WB was even still the bomb! Jetix was only good for it's time! ABC Kids and Fox Box sucked during these years though! ;D ;D


:-\\ So? What did you watch during the late 2000s?

:-\\ So? What did you watch during the late 2000s?

The only kids networks I watched in the late 00s were CN for Total Drama Island and Jetix for Batman and Superman reruns from my early childhood! Late 00s were a WEAK time for TV in my opinion! I watched Heroes, 30 Rock, on NBC; Ugly Betty, Lost, Brothers and Sisters on ABC; Bones, Prison Break, American Idol, Family Guy, on FOX; CSI, Two and a Half Men, on CBS. Realtiy Tv on Cable ,Adult Swim, Comdey Central, Spike TV, Nick at Nite, TBS, ESPN etc.

The only kids networks I watched in the late 00s were CN for Total Drama Island and Jetix for Batman and Superman reruns from my early childhood! Late 00s were a WEAK time for TV in my opinion! I watched Heroes, 30 Rock, on NBC; Ugly Betty, Lost, Brothers and Sisters on ABC; Bones, Prison Break, American Idol, Family Guy, on FOX; CSI, Two and a Half Men, on CBS. Realtiy Tv on Cable ,Adult Swim, Comdey Central, Spike TV, Nick at Nite, TBS, ESPN etc.


Okay. Nick at Nite and TBS were okay in the late 2000s too.

By my memories of Nick yes, 1998/99-2003/04 ish! Looking back on some the kids networks of the mid 00s; Nick was just decent in the mid 00s, Cartoon Network was still good, just not as good as before. Disney Channel was still great though! Kids WB was even still the bomb! Jetix was only good for it's time! ABC Kids and Fox Box sucked during these years though! ;D ;D


Heck even when we were in pre school and elementary Nick was in its Silver Age. The Golden Age ended around 1997. The Silver Age ended around 2004.

1979-1990: Origins

1991-1997: Golden Age/Original Nicktoons Era

1998-2004: Silver Age/Klasky Csupo Era (this was what I grew up with mostly)

2005-2008: Bronze Age/Avatar Era

2009-Present: Dark Ages

Heck even when we were in pre school and elementary Nick was in its Silver Age. The Golden Age ended around 1997. The Silver Age ended around 2004.

1979-1990: Origins

1991-1997: Golden Age/Original Nicktoons Era

1998-2004: Silver Age/Klasky Csupo Era (this was what I grew up with mostly)

2005-2008: Bronze Age/Avatar Era

2009-Present: Dark Ages


I mostly grown up with some of the Klasky Csupo era and most of the Bronze Age from Nickelodeon. After they changed their logo, it wasn't the same for me now.

:( Why? Didn't most people enjoyed Avatar when it was on?
Yes they did. Although nickelodeon was suffering through a decline, Avatar was still awesome. Many people were fans of the show throughout the entire series. I remember when it was first brand new. It was incredible that I watched it until the 3rd season. The reason for is that Avatar wasn't showing new episodes, so I thought it was over. However, the network made the last season and I ended up missing it. The good thing is I have seen some of the episodes and they were brilliant. One of the best shows I've ever seen.


Heck even when we were in pre school and elementary Nick was in its Silver Age. The Golden Age ended around 1997. The Silver Age ended around 2004.

1979-1990: Origins

1991-1997: Golden Age/Original Nicktoons Era

1998-2004: Silver Age/Klasky Csupo Era (this was what I grew up with mostly)

2005-2008: Bronze Age/Avatar Era

2009-Present: Dark Ages
I grew up with the Silver age as well along partly of the golden age. I recall a time on Nickelodeon before Spongebob was even on the schedule and when it was brand new. There were fantasic shows such as K&K, KaBlam, Aah! Real Monsters, Hey Arnold (when it aired new episodes regularly which was before 2000), All That (90s version), Angry Beavers, Wild Thornberrys (when it also aired new episodes regularly which was before 2001), Catdog (It was decent when it aired new episodes regularly), Rocko's Modern Life, AYAOTD, and Figure it out (original version). It was excellent.


By my memories of Nick yes, 1998/99-2003/04 ish! Looking back on some the kids networks of the mid 00s; Nick was just decent in the mid 00s, Cartoon Network was still good, just not as good as before. Disney Channel was still great though! Kids WB was even still the bomb! Jetix was only good for it's time! ABC Kids and Fox Box sucked during these years though! ;D ;D
This. Although I have to disagree with the Foxbox being awful. It had decent shows. 4KidsTV was the one that was horrible.

Yes they did. Although nickelodeon was suffering through a decline, Avatar was still awesome. Many people were fans of the show throughout the entire series. I remember when it was first brand new. It was incredible that I watched it until the 3rd season. The reason for is that Avatar wasn't showing new episodes, so I thought it was over. However, the network made the last season and I ended up missing it. The good thing is I have seen some of the episodes and they were brilliant. One of the best shows I've ever seen.


Have you seen the series finale of Avatar?

Have you seen the series finale of Avatar?
Unfortunately No.  :(. I need to though.

Avatar was a great series, but NICK's glory days were LONG gone!!!


Nickelodeon's best time is when they had "You Can't Do That On Television".

Nickelodeon's best time is when they had "You Can't Do That On Television".


I don't think a lot of people had Nickelodeon when that show aired.

So, the only time that Nickelodeon was great by your memories, was the early and mid 2000s?

He just wasn't interested in the other great shows on at the time. Aging out of the target demographic  really sucks, eh?

So no-one remembers El tigre and Three delivery? Those were great late 00s shows with thick plots. The latter had unusually good animation for a flash cartoon.

So no-one remembers El tigre and Three delivery? Those were great late 00s shows with thick plots. The latter had unusually good animation for a flash cartoon.


I remember El Tigre and it was an awesome show. I loved watching it on Nicktoons around 2008/2009.

So no-one remembers El tigre and Three delivery? Those were great late 00s shows with thick plots. The latter had unusually good animation for a flash cartoon.


I'll admit El Tigre was pretty underrated and had its great moments, but it only lasted 1 season though, it's part of the reason why Nickelodeon has been making some of the most stupidest decisions the last several years, they have shows with potential but they cancel it so soon and replace it with something much worse. They did it with Invader Zim, they put the rest of the Legend of Korra series online and didn't promote it well, and for those who liked Victorious or Sam & Cat, well, those didn't go as well either. As OcarinaFan96 mentioned, Nickelodeon has been on a severe decline lately because of their piss poor decisions. I honestly don't remember Three Delivery that much though.

He just wasn't interested in the other great shows on at the time. Aging out of the target demographic  really sucks, eh?


Well, Nickelodeon usually wants to have children watching their shows, since their humor can be understandable to them. Besides, at least you have Nick at Nite.

Heck even when we were in pre school and elementary Nick was in its Silver Age. The Golden Age ended around 1997. The Silver Age ended around 2004.

1979-1990: Origins

1991-1997: Golden Age/Original Nicktoons Era

1998-2004: Silver Age/Klasky Csupo Era (this was what I grew up with mostly)

2005-2008: Bronze Age/Avatar Era

2009-Present: Dark Ages


1979-1990 was the early age, I'm not so sure on what this age was lol!

1991-1997 was like the golden age for Nickelodeon for all of the sitcoms, all the variety of Nicktoons including reruns of syndicated cartoons, and a perfect blend of game shows for families to enjoy.

1998-2004 was still a golden age for all the Nicktoons including its reruns, you still had shows like Rugrats being around. Nicktoons like Hey Arnold, CatDog, Rocket Power, As Told By the Ginger, Spongebob Squarepants, Fairly Odd Parents, Oh Yeah Cartoons, Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, etc. would come around this time. Some people liked the Klaspy Kuspo era, some didn't though. But for the sitcoms it was a weak time though. Shows like 2000's All That, Tiana, Cousin Skeeter, or Romeo weren't as good at all as a result were cancelled so soon. At least Ken & Kel reruns were still around. Snick was still around as well. The game shows were still around going hard as well. TeenNick premiered around this time.

2005-2008 was like a Renaissance age for the sitcoms, shows like Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, and Ned's Declassified were really good, and lasted for a while, and even iCarly ended up being successful as well. However, the major bump was the decline for the Nicktoons, at least you had Avatar: the Last Airbender, Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius, and Danny Phantom. But the variety of nicktoons was much less due to the amount of nicktoons that ended throughout 2004. Invader Zim was cancelled around this time as well. When there's been a really good nicktoons with potential, it has been cancelled too soon for mediocre ones, or ones that aren't even original based off a Dreamwork movie (Back in the Barnyard or Penguins of Madagascar) or video games (Tak & the Power of JuJu or Rabbits Invasion). Nickelodeon still suffers this problem today, as a result, it's had to rely on endless reruns of Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Odd Parents. The removal of Snick block was controversial as well. TeenNick block actually started around early 2001 folks at the same time Snick was still around, but Snick was cancelled in 2004 while TeenNick block would stay until early 2009. I believe this was around the time the game shows went on a decline as well.

2009-present as you stated has been a dark age. iCarly being the only decent show left, but one show isn't going to save the network. This was around the time the sitcoms of Nickelodeon started trying to go on a "Disney Channel" type direction with shows like Victorious or Big Time Rush. Even today Nickelodeon sitcoms have still been too cheesy or unoriginal by a lot of people, as a result some of them have been cancelled so soon. As for the Nicktoons, see above, same problem as today basically. By this time the game shows are pretty much dead now. I'm not so sure on the ratings of the channel for today, but Nickelodeon hasn't improved in a while though. We'll just have to seen then.

Hey everyone. Here are TV schedules for every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_United_States_network_television_schedules

1979-1990 was the early age, I'm not so sure on what this age was lol!

1991-1997 was like the golden age for Nickelodeon for all of the sitcoms, all the variety of Nicktoons including reruns of syndicated cartoons, and a perfect blend of game shows for families to enjoy.

1998-2004 was still a golden age for all the Nicktoons including its reruns, you still had shows like Rugrats being around. Nicktoons like Hey Arnold, CatDog, Rocket Power, As Told By the Ginger, Spongebob Squarepants, Fairly Odd Parents, Oh Yeah Cartoons, Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius, etc. would come around this time. Some people liked the Klaspy Kuspo era, some didn't though. But for the sitcoms it was a weak time though. Shows like 2000's All That, Tiana, Cousin Skeeter, or Romeo weren't as good at all as a result were cancelled so soon. At least Ken & Kel reruns were still around. Snick was still around as well. The game shows were still around going hard as well. TeenNick premiered around this time.

2005-2008 was like a Renaissance age for the sitcoms, shows like Drake & Josh, Zoey 101, and Ned's Declassified were really good, and lasted for a while, and even iCarly ended up being successful as well. However, the major bump was the decline for the Nicktoons, at least you had Avatar: the Last Airbender, Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius, and Danny Phantom. But the variety of nicktoons was much less due to the amount of nicktoons that ended throughout 2004. Invader Zim was cancelled around this time as well. When there's been a really good nicktoons with potential, it has been cancelled too soon for mediocre ones, or ones that aren't even original based off a Dreamwork movie (Back in the Barnyard or Penguins of Madagascar) or video games (Tak & the Power of JuJu or Rabbits Invasion). Nickelodeon still suffers this problem today, as a result, it's had to rely on endless reruns of Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Odd Parents. The removal of Snick block was controversial as well. TeenNick block actually started around early 2001 folks at the same time Snick was still around, but Snick was cancelled in 2004 while TeenNick block would stay until early 2009. I believe this was around the time the game shows went on a decline as well.

2009-present as you stated has been a dark age. iCarly being the only decent show left, but one show isn't going to save the network. This was around the time the sitcoms of Nickelodeon started trying to go on a "Disney Channel" type direction with shows like Victorious or Big Time Rush. Even today Nickelodeon sitcoms have still been too cheesy or unoriginal by a lot of people, as a result some of them have been cancelled so soon. As for the Nicktoons, see above, same problem as today basically. By this time the game shows are pretty much dead now. I'm not so sure on the ratings of the channel for today, but Nickelodeon hasn't improved in a while though. We'll just have to seen then.


I have to agree with you on the current era. All of their shows now are complete rip offs. If they have a sitcom now, it has to be like Drake & Josh, iCarly or anything that Dan Schnieder made on Nickelodeon. If they have a cartoon, it has to be like SpongeBob with the goofy humor and crap. It's so unbearable to watch one of their current shows right now because it has to be made for kids.

I can see how Cartoon Network and Disney XD is doing real good for the audiences, because they actually make great shows that not only has kids watching them, but teens and adults too. I like of how Cartoon Network is doing great with We Bare Bears and the upcoming 2016 Powerpuff Girls reboot. I'm glad of them for doing their best to make interesting shows. Nickelodeon on the other hand just cares about the money, since they think that every child likes to watch countless reruns of SpongeBob and Fairy Oddparents. It's just so depressing to see Nickelodeon nowadays being terrible than ever now. If they aren't doing that well, then it's safe to say that Nickelodeon would probably cease to exist in the near future.

Hey everyone. Here are TV schedules for every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_United_States_network_television_schedules


You can find some nice Kids WB weekday afternoon & Saturday morning schedules over there including many other primetime TV schedules as well.

You can find some nice Kids WB weekday afternoon & Saturday morning schedules over there including many other primetime TV schedules as well.
Yep. And I was looking at the Saturday morning cartoon schedules from various years and they were magnificent until sometime in 2005/06. I feel that's when Saturday morning cartoons were declining harshly as the blocks were becoming awful. I'm glad that I was able to watch great cartoons from all of those channels. The one I wish I would have witnessed was the NBC lineup. The channel had good shows as well. Unfortunately, they dropped the children's programming a year before I was born. If I was a few more years older, I definitely would have watched the NBC cartoon lineup.

Yep. And I was looking at the Saturday morning cartoon schedules from various years and they were magnificent until sometime in 2005/06. I feel that's when Saturday morning cartoons were declining harshly as the blocks were becoming awful. I'm glad that I was able to watch great cartoons from all of those channels. The one I wish I would have witnessed was the NBC lineup. The channel had good shows as well. Unfortunately, they dropped the children's programming a year before I was born. If I was a few more years older, I definitely would have watched the NBC cartoon lineup.


I stopped watching Saturday morning cartoons altogether once Kids WB moved to CW in 2006, and here in the local Atlanta, GA area when that happened, Kids WB got moved to Sundays, which was pointless because I had church those mornings, however, by 2006 none of Kids WB's programming interested me anymore anyway. Kids WB was still around until 2008 though, even though CW was already around, then it switched to CW4kids.

I stopped watching Saturday morning cartoons altogether once Kids WB moved to CW in 2006, and here in the local Atlanta, GA area when that happened, Kids WB got moved to Sundays, which was pointless because I had church those mornings, however, by 2006 none of Kids WB's programming interested me anymore anyway. Kids WB was still around until 2008 though, even though CW was already around, then it switched to CW4kids.
For me, it was sometime in 2003 because I was getting older although the shows were still good. However, the shows that premiered in 2004 and after I know of only because I either had no cable or my younger cousins were watching them.

For me, it was sometime in 2003 because I was getting older although the shows were still good. However, the shows that premiered in 2004 and after I know of only because I either had no cable or my younger cousins were watching them.


2001-2004 were my absolute favorite years for Kids WB IMO, those were the best! 2005 was still good but just not as good as the previous years, but it was the last good year of Kids WB for me. I have no memories of Kids WB from 1999 or 2000 though :-\\ and I know those lineups would've been awesome to experience, but at least my 2001-2004 experience was better than nothing, and it couldn't have happened at a better time in my life. 8)

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