I gotta go with 2000 on this one it felt the most 90ish to me

2002/2003ish

2007 felt soooo ... 2007. 

2001. It provided the most historic/infmaous event of the 21st century so far, and was the year that late '90s culture quickly was fizziling out. Harry Potter was perhaps the biggest cutural franchise of the decade and it really took off that  year. 2000 was hyped big at the time thanks to Y2K preceding it, but gets sandwiched between the '90s and the 21st century, being post-tech bubble but pre-terrorism/paranoia. 2002 has its culture but is in the shadow of what happened in 2001. 2003 is probably second due to Iraq, ringtone rap/emo, and any trace of '90s style practically history. 2004-06 all feed into each other, with 2007 sort of caught in between the mid-00s vibe and the late '00s culture with social media fully mainstream, the emergence of EDM, and the recession.

2001

-Bush became president
-9/11 and War on Terror came to define the rest of the decade
-Several big movie franchises got their start that year (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Shrek, Fast and the Furious)
-Release of first iPod and first Xbox also came to define the rest of the decade technologically
-Fair amount of good music that year (Daft Punk, Gorillaz, The Strokes). Nothing earth shattering but it's probably my favorite year of the decade musically.

Every year, for each year is blessing to be alive!

January made me shiver.

In this order.

1. 2007
2. 2000
3. 2001

2007 is the only year of the '00s I would consider truly distinctive.  It is also the most pure '00s year in my opinion.  '90s leftovers had finally disappeared completely yet it had little in common with '08 and '09. 2000 fits in with the millennium era that encompassed late 1998-very early 2001.  Most of 2001 is barely distinguishable from 2002.  The mid '00s lasting from 2003 through 2006 were a pretty uniform era.

2001

-Bush became president
-9/11 and War on Terror came to define the rest of the decade
-Several big movie franchises got their start that year (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Shrek, Fast and the Furious)
-Release of first iPod and first Xbox also came to define the rest of the decade technologically
-Fair amount of good music that year (Daft Punk, Gorillaz, The Strokes). Nothing earth shattering but it's probably my favorite year of the decade musically.


I think you're right about 2001 being distinctive.

I gotta go with 2000 on this one it felt the most 90ish to me


I started to agree with you. Then I thought some more about the year 2000. In the 90s, we were putting everything together for the 2000s. We were more concerned about the future (the millennium). If not for the ideas of the 1990s, we'd still be stuck in a very 90s environment. Going by that belief, 1999 was the last official year of the 90s. Look at the movies of 1999 and compare and contrast them to those of the 2000. Look at the X-Men franchise for starters, it isn't over yet. By the looks of things,it probably won't end until sometime in the 2020s. In the 2020s, we will have been tired of seeing Hugh Jackman as Wolverine over and over again. The X-Men films of the 2000s will be seen as retro because Hugh and Ian was in each and every one of them.

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

In essence, most years of the 2000s had a feeling similar to those of the mid 1990s. We watched superhero movies, hung out at Sam Goody like mallrats and listened to post-grunge music. 2000 may have seemed different to you because Bill was still President. Make no mistake, 2000 was still very much a year of the 00s. In fact, I'd say late '99 (July-December of 1999) was the beginning of the 2000s. Think about it, there was a scare (Y2K Bug Threat), an American Pie film and Digimon premiered on FOX. Everything was there in late '99.

I started to agree with you. Then I thought some more about the year 2000. In the 90s, we were putting everything together for the 2000s. We were more concerned about the future (the millennium). If not for the ideas of the 1990s, we'd still be stuck in a very 90s environment. Going by that belief, 1999 was the last official year of the 90s. Look at the movies of 1999 and compare and contrast them to those of the 2000. Look at the X-Men franchise for starters, it isn't over yet. By the looks of things,it probably won't end until sometime in the 2020s. In the 2020s, we will have been tired of seeing Hugh Jackman as Wolverine over and over again. The X-Men films of the 2000s will be seen as retro because Hugh and Ian was in each and every one of them.

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

In essence, most years of the 2000s had a feeling similar to those of the mid 1990s. We watched superhero movies, hung out at Sam Goody like mallrats and listened to post-grunge music. 2000 may have seemed different to you because Bill was still President. Make no mistake, 2000 was still very much a year of the 00s. In fact, I'd say late '99 (July-December of 1999) was the beginning of the 2000s. Think about it, there was a scare (Y2K Bug Threat), an American Pie film and Digimon premiered on FOX. Everything was there in late '99.


I was first aware of the Y2K bug in 1998, and that's when the media came about it. By mid-2000, this problem was in the rear-view mirror. I will always associate this scare with the late '90s. Also, Digimon was of course a knock-off to Pokemon, which became big in Japan in 1996 and the rest of the world in late 1998. That said, 1999 is still quite '90s technologically (dial-up, pagers, monochrome cell phones, VHS still bigger than DVD, CRT monitors, CD players, Nintendo 64/Playstation 1 still dominant, even floppy disks were still around in the form of the Zip drive). Television also had a quick '90s-'00s transition with the decline in sitcoms and the rise of news tickers, crime dramas, and of course reality TV. That said, in terms of movies/music/fashion, those had a much more gradual transition between the '90s and '00s. It's fairly difficult to tell apart a movie from 1997 to 2002, while it is easier to compare one from 2002 to 2007 due to the decline of regular film and the rise of digital shooting.

That said, since I still view the 2000s as a dark decade (outside of some South American and Asian countries), it makes me emphasize what went wrong, and that makes 2001 and 2008 (IMO second place) as the most distinctive. 2008 had the big recession, disapproval from George W. Bush, gas prices hitting $4 for the first time, the expression "There's an app for that" becoming household, and today's music scene (as of 2014) heavily influenced by this. Those two years serve as cultural boundaries between the main 2000s, with 2000 and 2009 affiliated somewhat with the '90s and '10s, respectively.

IMO 2001 and 2008, the most important years of the 00's.

I'd say 03/04 were the most purely 00s years culturally. That was basically the peak of the crunk/bling/excess culture that I associate with the 00s.

In personal life or pop culture? Personal life probably 2005 as that's the year I moved cities. Pop culture I really don't know.

I'd say 03/04 were the most purely 00s years culturally. That was basically the peak of the crunk/bling/excess culture that I associate with the 00s.


Late 2006-early 2008 was the peak of emo/scene/MySpace culture though.  That is what I associate most with the '00s.  What do you think represents the '00s more? 

Late 2006-early 2008 was the peak of emo/scene/MySpace culture though.  That is what I associate most with the '00s.  What do you think represents the '00s more?

I associate everything before 2006 more with the 00s actually. 2006 you already started getting hint of what the 2010s are bringing with a few electro songs and Facebook and YouTube being big. Plus I was truly a kid before 2006 as I wasn't a teen then so my most fond memories of the 00s are from them. If I had to pick a year culturally I guess I would pick 2004.

2003/2004 was an 00s decade walking cliche.

2003/2004 was an 00s decade walking cliche.

Agreed. Even more than 2006/2007.

2006 you already started getting hint of what the 2010s are bringing with a few electro songs and Facebook and YouTube being big.

and almost a decade later both are quite popular.

I associate everything before 2006 more with the 00s actually. 2006 you already started getting hint of what the 2010s are bringing with a few electro songs and Facebook and YouTube being big. Plus I was truly a kid before 2006 as I wasn't a teen then so my most fond memories of the 00s are from them. If I had to pick a year culturally I guess I would pick 2004.


I look back at 2006 YouTube as almost an entirely different animal from today's YouTube.  Today it is pretty much a money making machine.  Back then it was all about user-created content.  Also, in 2006 Facebook was by and large still the realm of college students.  It only opened up to non-students late that year.

I look back at 2006 YouTube as almost an entirely different animal from today's YouTube.

Back then, you didn't click have a "Skip Ad" to get thru to the video.

In this order.

1. 2007
2. 2000
3. 2001

2007 is the only year of the '00s I would consider truly distinctive.  It is also the most pure '00s year in my opinion.  '90s leftovers had finally disappeared completely yet it had little in common with '08 and '09. 2000 fits in with the millennium era that encompassed late 1998-very early 2001.  Most of 2001 is barely distinguishable from 2002.  The mid '00s lasting from 2003 through 2006 were a pretty uniform era.

2007 was the last year before anything felt dramatically different, but new trends were creeping in. 2006 had no 90's feel to it at all, and musically that's when Rihanna started getting popular and snap rap was on it's last big year. Some of the songs were getting cheesy. Like the one by E40 called U and Dat.  :o In video games Xbox360 and PS3 were the must-haves in the console wars.


I look back at 2006 YouTube as almost an entirely different animal from today's YouTube.  Today it is pretty much a money making machine.  Back then it was all about user-created content.  Also, in 2006 Facebook was by and large still the realm of college students.  It only opened up to non-students late that year.

Facebook didn't evolve in a good way. I miss Myspace, even if it was aimed at a younger user base.


2001

-Bush became president
-9/11 and War on Terror came to define the rest of the decade
-Several big movie franchises got their start that year (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Shrek, Fast and the Furious)
-Release of first iPod and first Xbox also came to define the rest of the decade technologically
-Fair amount of good music that year (Daft Punk, Gorillaz, The Strokes). Nothing earth shattering but it's probably my favorite year of the decade musically.

2001 was just the lead up to it, 2002 all the war on terror really got aggressive.


I started to agree with you. Then I thought some more about the year 2000. In the 90s, we were putting everything together for the 2000s. We were more concerned about the future (the millennium). If not for the ideas of the 1990s, we'd still be stuck in a very 90s environment. Going by that belief, 1999 was the last official year of the 90s. Look at the movies of 1999 and compare and contrast them to those of the 2000. Look at the X-Men franchise for starters, it isn't over yet. By the looks of things,it probably won't end until sometime in the 2020s. In the 2020s, we will have been tired of seeing Hugh Jackman as Wolverine over and over again. The X-Men films of the 2000s will be seen as retro because Hugh and Ian was in each and every one of them.

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

In essence, most years of the 2000s had a feeling similar to those of the mid 1990s. We watched superhero movies, hung out at Sam Goody like mallrats and listened to post-grunge music. 2000 may have seemed different to you because Bill was still President. Make no mistake, 2000 was still very much a year of the 00s. In fact, I'd say late '99 (July-December of 1999) was the beginning of the 2000s. Think about it, there was a scare (Y2K Bug Threat), an American Pie film and Digimon premiered on FOX. Everything was there in late '99.

1999 was of course the last official year of the 90's! It ended in a '99.  ::) The 90's wasn't putting anything together for the next decade, everything naturally evolved like it always does. The 2000's wasn't "the future." It still felt pretty old school until the latest years, but it's pop culture was certainly distinct. The superhero movies are a bigger trend now than last decade. I'm so sick of alternative being called post-grunge. Alot of it doesn't even have a grunge inspired sound. Real grunge was short lived. The reason 2000 had late 90's elements to it was because there's always carry over. Something can start in the later part of one decade, but be more associated with the next because that's where it spent most of it's time.

In this order.

1. 2007
2. 2000
3. 2001

2007 is the only year of the '00s I would consider truly distinctive.  It is also the most pure '00s year in my opinion.  '90s leftovers had finally disappeared completely yet it had little in common with '08 and '09. 2000 fits in with the millennium era that encompassed late 1998-very early 2001.  Most of 2001 is barely distinguishable from 2002.  The mid '00s lasting from 2003 through 2006 were a pretty uniform era.

I'd say there were zero 90s leftovers after 2002...

In video games Xbox360 and PS3 were the must-haves in the console wars.


I remember having the PS2 before having the PS3.

To me the '90s ended when Third Rock From The Sun went off the air and the 00s started when Shrek came out. So about May or June of 2001.

The '00s ended sometime between the beginning of the Great Recession (December 2007) and when Obama was elected (November 2008), or when Facebook overtook Myspace as the choice social media. Thus I would peg the first cultural era of the 21st century as being roughly 2001/02 to 2007/08. This decade definitely began early; 2009 is much more similar to the years after than to the years prior and considering we're halfway through the decade now I think the current style will likely last until 2020 or later.

Cultures of decades never start on the dot in a specific year. It always gradually changes as years pass. Sometimes there is a year where so many things change all at once and 2008 is an example of that. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there was ever a year since maybe the 80s that so much change happened all at once like the year 2008. Music changed, Economy changed, New black American president was elected, technology changed, etc.

IMO 2001 and 2008, the most important years of the 00's.

Yep, I was thinking the same thing.

1999 was of course the last official year of the 90's! It ended in a '99.  ::) The 90's wasn't putting anything together for the next decade, everything naturally evolved like it always does. The 2000's wasn't "the future." It still felt pretty old school until the latest years, but it's pop culture was certainly distinct. The superhero movies are a bigger trend now than last decade. I'm so sick of alternative being called post-grunge. Alot of it doesn't even have a grunge inspired sound. Real grunge was short lived. The reason 2000 had late 90's elements to it was because there's always carry over. Something can start in the later part of one decade, but be more associated with the next because that's where it spent most of it's time.


The spring of '99 was the last time we were in the 90s. I see 1999 as the first year of the 2000s also because of what occurred in the summer well into the fall and winter of the year. You're obviously a lot younger than I am because I remember the 90s from an adult's perspective. Stuff like Digimon, Pokemon, and etc. lasted well into the 2000s. They're only a "90s thing" because they were new in the 90s. That's what makes them 90s, they were introduced in the decade but spent far more time in the following ten years. The 2000s were the future to us, teenagers, at the time. I knew 2001 would look nothing like 1992 in 1992. Think about it, if people were not so ingenious in the 90s, then the 2000s would be no different from a day in the 1989. Nintendo certainly did not put out Pokemon with the intention of it just being around in the 90s. So, they were building for the future (the 2000s). That's how I see it anyway.

I think unknown superheroes are big thing in this decade. Look at how well Gurardians did in Theaters. The Supermans, Batmans, Wolverines and Spider-Mans were such a big deal in the 00s that someone came out with a Superhero Movie in March of 2008.

Would you consider Nickelback and Creed to be alternative? You're right about grunge being short-lived. It's funny, back in late '92, journalist  thought grunge would be the rock and roll of the 1990s. Boy, were ever they wrong about that one.

From what I have noticed, the new stuff from any decade always carries over into the next one. Those same things are "background props" in the next decade. They're never as popular as they were when they were discovered. There are some exceptions to the rule.

So, there wasn't a year of the 2000s that felt distinctive from the rest. All of the ideas thought up in 2000-2009 helped us to get to where we are today. None of the years were borderline like 1989 was. I say 1989 could be thought of as an 80s or 90s year because of Tim Burton's Batman. Look at the suit, before 1989, the only Batman we knew of was Adam West's Batman with the Neal Adams design. Nolan's Batman was also, literally, a dark knight.  Since Americans were getting ready for the 2000s in the 90s, we could call 1989 the first year of the 1990s, despite it having an 8 in the number.

It's funny you mention 1989. That is how I remember that year too, as the beginning of the 90's. I was in 4th grade going into 5th. The earlier part of '89 still felt 80's and was connected to late '88 (my 4th grade year). When I started 5th grade, even though I was still in elementary school, it felt like it was more connected to my middle school years. Something felt different. The premier of the Simpsons in late '89 was part of it. It's funny you mention Batman. It was my favorite movie of that year and one of my favorites of all time, along with 2005's Batman Begins. It was a time when there weren't too many superhero movies. The Superman series with Christopher Reeves was really the only other one earlier in the decade. The 2000's had two different Spiderman series in the same decade.

As far as a borderline year goes, I think 2005 was a turning point of the decade which happened to be in the middle. The earlier part of the year still had the early 00's feel, but the later part of the year had more of what was seen in 2006 and onward. In the spring of '05, the music was dominated by songs like "Candy Shop", while in the later part "Gold Digger" was one of the only hip-hop songs at the top of the charts. The music of late 2005 had more cheesy pop, emo rock, and cheesy ringtone rap. 2005 was also the year in which MySpace became very popular, and the beginning of YouTube.

Other than that, 2001 was a big turning point because of 9/11, and 2009 because of the inauguration of Obama.

It's funny you mention 1989. That is how I remember that year too, as the beginning of the 90's. I was in 4th grade going into 5th. The earlier part of '89 still felt 80's and was connected to late '88 (my 4th grade year). When I started 5th grade, even though I was still in elementary school, it felt like it was more connected to my middle school years. Something felt different. The premier of the Simpsons in late '89 was part of it. It's funny you mention Batman. It was my favorite movie of that year and one of my favorites of all time, along with 2005's Batman Begins. It was a time when there weren't too many superhero movies. The Superman series with Christopher Reeves was really the only other one earlier in the decade. The 2000's had two different Spiderman series in the same decade.

As far as a borderline year goes, I think 2005 was a turning point of the decade which happened to be in the middle. The earlier part of the year still had the early 00's feel, but the later part of the year had more of what was seen in 2006 and onward. In the spring of '05, the music was dominated by songs like "Candy Shop", while in the later part "Gold Digger" was one of the only hip-hop songs at the top of the charts. The music of late 2005 had more cheesy pop, emo rock, and cheesy ringtone rap. 2005 was also the year in which MySpace became very popular, and the beginning of YouTube.

Other than that, 2001 was a big turning point because of 9/11, and 2009 because of the inauguration of Obama.

2004 is actually the year that is in the middle of the decade technically. There's no way early 2005 and before that is considered "early 00s" Early 00s are 2000-2002. Once 2003 hit we were well into the mid 00s. I don't think there was a big change in mid 2005. There are songs from 2005 and 2006 which sound like they can belong to either year.

As far as a borderline year goes, I think 2005 was a turning point of the decade which happened to be in the middle.

Median of 2000-2009 is 2004. Therefore the middle year of the decade is the middle of 2004, not 2005.

Late 2006-early 2008 was the peak of emo/scene/MySpace culture though.  That is what I associate most with the '00s.  What do you think represents the '00s more?


You could make a case for either one, but IMO it's 03/04. A lot of the trends that started around 06-08 lasted into the 2010s (skinny jeans, Bieber hair, etc.). Obviously 'Bieber hair' didn't have that name that back then, but there were a lot of people wearing it. A lot of the trends from around 03/04 (trucker hats, throwback jerseys, etc.) were pretty much confined to the 00s.

I also think crunk is the most distinctively 00s musical genre. It technically started in the late 90s, but it's mainstream peak was entirely in the 00s. Politically, there wasn't nearly as much backlash against Bush and the Iraq war in 03/04. Some people spoke out against it (like the Dixie Chicks, who were condemned for it), but the dominant political mood of that time was post 9-11 neocon paranoia, which is purely 00s.

2004 is actually the year that is in the middle of the decade technically. There's no way early 2005 and before that is considered "early 00s" Early 00s are 2000-2002. Once 2003 hit we were well into the mid 00s. I don't think there was a big change in mid 2005. There are songs from 2005 and 2006 which sound like they can belong to either year.
i think what Batfan was saying was that the first half of the 00s and early 05 had the early 00s feel because there wasn't much ringtones rap, social media, HD resolution, smartphones, and wifi. There was still more dial-up, SD resolution, variety of music, calling/emailing, less social media, and simple cellphones. Another thing in the early 00s was that gaming was still non-motion, computers were still huge monitors, VHS was still there, and the world was half-connected of analog and digital.

i think what Batfan was saying was that the first half of the 00s and early 05 had the early 00s feel because there wasn't much ringtones rap, social media, HD resolution, smartphones, and wifi. There was still more dial-up, SD resolution, variety of music, calling/emailing, less social media, and simple cellphones. Another thing in the early 00s was that gaming was still non-motion, computers were still huge monitors, VHS was still there, and the world was half-connected of analog and digital.

2006 was the heyday of ringtone rap. Both PS3 and Xbox 360 existed now too. Everything hadn't gone all digital yet though and old style computers were still used in homes.


Would you consider Nickelback and Creed to be alternative? You're right about grunge being short-lived. It's funny, back in late '92, journalist  thought grunge would be the rock and roll of the 1990s. Boy, were ever they wrong about that one.

Who said grunge would be rock of the 90's? It was just one style. The 90's was musically diverse. You had alot of alternative, that seemed to dominate. Then nu-metal came about which carried over to the 2000's.

2006 was the heyday of ringtone rap. Both PS3 and Xbox 360 existed now too. Everything hadn't gone all digital yet though and old style computers were still used in homes.
It definitely was. By 2007, ringtone rap was gone. Yep, it was still a half-connected world, old computers were still used and dont forget the Wii, DS and PSP.

Median of 2000-2009 is 2004. Therefore the middle year of the decade is the middle of 2004, not 2005.


A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s

A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s

2010 and 2011 are the 10's.  ::) Totally different decade. Same with 1999. Don't count the cultural spillover, count the actual years.

A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s

Yes it can but early 2000s mean 2000-2003, I've never heard someone say those years were transitional and early 00s were 2005. When people think mid 00s it includes 2003-2005. These years weren't that different from 2006, still the same 00s stuff, ringtone rap, baggy clothing chains, gangster rap, Dvd players, Ipods, social networking with MySpace and Facebook and YouTube afterwards, etc.

2010 and 2011 are the 10's.  ::) Totally different decade. Same with 1999. Don't count the cultural spillover, count the actual years.


You can look at it that way, I suppose. I'll always see 2011 as the first year of the 10s. I can't ignore the cultural spillovers.

Yes it can but early 2000s mean 2000-2003, I've never heard someone say those years were transitional and early 00s were 2005. When people think mid 00s it includes 2003-2005. These years weren't that different from 2006, still the same 00s stuff, ringtone rap, baggy clothing chains, gangster rap, Dvd players, Ipods, social networking with MySpace and Facebook and YouTube afterwards, etc.


2000 and most of 2001 did not have the 2000s feel. I know most Americans look at 9/11 as the date when everything changed. I look at 2002 as the first year of the 2000s because it was the first full year we lived in a post 9/11 America. 2003 was nothing like 1993, there wasn't one huge pop culture shift. There was nothing significant about 2003 at all. Think about it, in 2005, thefacebook was officially renamed as Facebook. Youtube was created in 2005. 2005 was definitely the first year of the mid 2000s.

2000 and most of 2001 did not have the 2000s feel. I know most Americans look at 9/11 as the date when everything changed. I look at 2002 as the first year of the 2000s because it was the first full year we lived in a post 9/11 America. 2003 was nothing like 1993, there wasn't one huge pop culture shift. There was nothing significant about 2003 at all. Think about it, in 2005, thefacebook was officially renamed as Facebook. Youtube was created in 2005. 2005 was definitely the first year of the mid 2000s.

I disagree with that. Even in the late 90s you had some hints of what was coming up in the 2000s with music. The whole Y2K thing and Oops I did it again were all part of the millennial 2000s era.

2000 and most of 2001 did not have the 2000s feel. I know most Americans look at 9/11 as the date when everything changed. I look at 2002 as the first year of the 2000s because it was the first full year we lived in a post 9/11 America. 2003 was nothing like 1993, there wasn't one huge pop culture shift. There was nothing significant about 2003 at all. Think about it, in 2005, thefacebook was officially renamed as Facebook. Youtube was created in 2005. 2005 was definitely the first year of the mid 2000s.

2000 did indeed have a "2000's feel." It wasn't like most of the 90's. Different music and fashion trends were already in place. Post 9/11 or not doesn't make a difference. Having Facebook and YouTube isn't significant. There were still other blogs available. Why do you always bring up 1993? Of course 2003 is nothing like it, it's 10 years from then!


I disagree with that. Even in the late 90s you had some hints of what was coming up in the 2000s with music. The whole Y2K thing and Oops I did it again were all part of the millennial 2000s era.

Exactly! Y2K is what comes to mind when I think 2000. That and boy bands and girl pop singers.

I disagree with that. Even in the late 90s you had some hints of what was coming up in the 2000s with music. The whole Y2K thing and Oops I did it again were all part of the millennial 2000s era.


Yes, I know. From 1999 to 2002, you had a good idea of what was going to happen in the 2000s. '99 just doesn't fit in with the 90s, despite having a three 9s in the year. The Columbine shooting was the first horrible event of that whole 1999-2002 era. To you, y2k and "Oops I Did It Again" were all a part of the millennium. Brittney was slipping all throughout the real 2000s. In 2000, she was still bringing her A-game to her music.

2000 did indeed have a "2000's feel." It wasn't like most of the 90's. Different music and fashion trends were already in place. Post 9/11 or not doesn't make a difference. Having Facebook and YouTube isn't significant. There were still other blogs available. Why do you always bring up 1993? Of course 2003 is nothing like it, it's 10 years from then!


I would have to disagree with your first statement. The 2000s were, as Time Magazine put it, "The Decade that went to Hell." 2000 and 2001 were shadows to 1999. Post 9/11 times were very different from the earliest years that Historians group with the real 2000s. It made a big difference, there were programs like American Dad on after 9/11. Facebook and Youtube were extremely important to the Internet Renaissance. There was a movie in 2010 about the invention of Facebook. It was called "The Social Network", in case you do not know.

1993 was the first year of the mid 1990s. I despise it because it brought an end to the time period I know and love. With 1993 came the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and America
On-Line promos. 2003 wasn't the start to anything big, so it was not as significant as 2005. I know 1993 was nothing like 2003, thank you.

Having Facebook and YouTube isn't significant.

Do you mean back then or now? ???

I would have to disagree with your first statement. The 2000s were, as Time Magazine put it, "The Decade that went to Hell." 2000 and 2001 were shadows to 1999. Post 9/11 times were very different from the earliest years that Historians group with the real 2000s. It made a big difference, there were programs like American Dad on after 9/11. Facebook and Youtube were extremely important to the Internet Renaissance. There was a movie in 2010 about the invention of Facebook. It was called "The Social Network", in case you do not know.

1993 was the first year of the mid 1990s. I despise it because it brought an end to the time period I know and love. With 1993 came the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman and America
On-Line promos. 2003 wasn't the start to anything big, so it was not as significant as 2005. I know 1993 was nothing like 2003, thank you.


There was definitely a definitive era between the real '90s and the post 9/11 '00s.  I call it the "Millennium era."  It lasted from fall 1998 through September 2001.  That era has its own distinct feel.

There was definitely a definitive era between the real '90s and the post 9/11 '00s.  I call it the "Millennium era."  It lasted from fall 1998 through September 2001.  That era has its own distinct feel.


I could vouch for this. That era kind of has a distinct feeling of its own that doesn't fit the stereotype of either decade. The Internet was completely mainstream in North America/Australia/Western Europe by 1998 but even just 3 or 4 years earlier many people had still never heard of it!

The fashion was definitely unlike what people wore during most of the 90s which was basically grunge mixed with the more homely things that were fashionable in the 80s. In the year 2000 people weren't wearing Cosby sweaters, turtle necks, fanny packs or coke bottle type glasses, stuff that was still very widespread even as late as 1997. And there wasn't nearly as much flannel or leather. By the very late 90s fashion was more sultry and "ordinary" people were starting to get piercings and tattoos on a large scale.

The whole Britney/Backstreet Boys/NSYNC craze that lasted from 1997 to 2001 sets the era apart both from the years before and after too.

I could vouch for this. That era kind of has a distinct feeling of its own that doesn't fit the stereotype of either decade. The Internet was completely mainstream in North America/Australia/Western Europe by 1998 but even just 3 or 4 years earlier many people had still never heard of it!

The fashion was definitely unlike what people wore during most of the 90s which was basically grunge mixed with the more homely things that were fashionable in the 80s. In the year 2000 people weren't wearing Cosby sweaters, turtle necks, fanny packs or coke bottle type glasses, stuff that was still very widespread even as late as 1997. And there wasn't nearly as much flannel or leather. By the very late 90s fashion was more sultry and "ordinary" people were starting to get piercings and tattoos on a large scale.

The whole Britney/Backstreet Boys/NSYNC craze that lasted from 1997 to 2001 sets the era apart both from the years before and after too.


Great points.  I also associate the peak of Abercrombie and Fitch popularity and frosted hair tips on guys with that era.

Yes 1998-2001 was a time on its own. Eiffel 65 immediately comes into my mind.

As for the years, 2007 is special to me, though nothing special happened. It was the (last) peak of '00s culture,
and also the peak of my teenhood. It is the last year before "everything" became different.

Yes 1998-2001 was a time on its own. Eiffel 65 immediately comes into my mind.

As for the years, 2007 is special to me, though nothing special happened. It was the (last) peak of '00s culture,
and also the peak of my teenhood. It is the last year before "everything" became different.


That was really a great time to be a teenager.  I remember everything in teen culture was centered around emo/scene/MySpace that year and even during 2008.  It was a terrible time to be graduating college as I was going into the recession and everything.

A decade can always be divided into thirds.

For the 2000s, it went more like this:

1999-2002: Transition to the 00s
2002-2005: The Early 2000s
2005-2008:The Mid 2000s
2008-2011: The Late 2000s


Here's how I see the cultural eras and a brief description of them:

1997-2000: The Y2K era
2001-2004: Post 9/11 paranoia and patriotic era
2005-2008: The MySpace era
2009-2012: The Great Recession era
2013-present: The world's going to s*** era

Here's how I see the cultural eras and a brief description of them:

1997-2000: The Y2K era
2001-2004: Post 9/11 paranoia and patriotic era
2005-2008: The MySpace era
2009-2012: The Great Recession era
2013-present: The world's going to s*** era


Agree with the 2013-present  ;D really miss everything before 2010

I'd say there were zero 90s leftovers after 2004...

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Every year, for each year is blessing to be alive!
ditto!

The fashion was definitely unlike what people wore during most of the 90s which was basically grunge mixed with the more homely things that were fashionable in the 80s. In the year 2000 people weren't wearing Cosby sweaters, turtle necks, fanny packs or coke bottle type glasses, stuff that was still very widespread even as late as 1997. And there wasn't nearly as much flannel or leather.


That is not what the '90s were like. Grunge peaked in 1994 and disappeared in 1997. The best of '90s fashion was infinite times more flattering than the '80s and '00s. You just described early '90s fashion. Cosby sweaters, fanny packs, and coke bottle glasses were last widespread in 1993. Afterwards, it was only middle-aged people and dorks who didn't care about their looks that wore those things. Turtlenecks were definitely still in in 2000. They were worn as far as 2005, my sister told me so (she was 19 then). And there's nothing wrong with turtlenecks.

A promo shot from Buffy season 1. 1996:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iigznreRbVA/UTFKoFz22xI/AAAAAAAACrs/SvnFUYXa420/s640/buffy_cast.jpg

A picture of the gals from Buffy in 1996:
http://www.whedon.info/IMG/jpg/buffy-the-vampire-slayer-season-1-promo-hq-01-0750.jpg

David Boreanaz as Angel wearing a black velvet blazer during the first season of Buffy in 1996:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/buffy/images/f/f2/Angel-buffy-the-vampire-slayer-987905_356_480.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140129053745

A clip from the Buffy season 1 finale "Prophecy Girl". Sarah Michelle Gellar is wearing a prom dress. Filmed in January 1997:
https://dtsft.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/buffy-prophecy-girl-cast.jpg

Spring Break 1997:
http://www.csus.edu/org/sigma/ver2/images/spespring2.jpg

Here is a group picture of girls, summer 1997:
http://americanlegionauxiliaryunit16covingtonla.com/girlsstate_1997.jpg
Take note that this was in the south, which was two years behind then. This means that those clothes became fashionable in 1995 in the east and west.

A '70s-inspired dress from 1997:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xNo1CSwmArU/VByA2OKDXeI/AAAAAAAAG5w/xqM7XQUNYFg/s1600/90s01.jpg

David Boreanaz as Angel wearing a red velvet dress shirt on Buffy season 2 in 1997:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/buffy/images/2/22/Tumblr_m8cppcadDE1r2ol81o1_500-1-.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120811122602

The whole Britney/Backstreet Boys/NSYNC craze that lasted from 1997 to 2001 sets the era apart both from the years before and after too.


It wasn't 1997 to 2001, it was 1998 to 2000. Both of those acts lost significant steam in 2001 with Britney's controversy over her new image and the Backstreet Boys and NSYNC's backlash. Besides, there were other more popular artists than those three.

I still say 1997-2001. At the time, 1997 felt so different to me compared to everything before. Not as much now, looking back, but still different enough.

The boy band stuff didn't really go away until 2002.

Um, I'm not really sure how to answer this topic. 2003 did feel pretty old school, already experiencing it.

Here's how I see the cultural eras and a brief description of them:

1997-2000: The Y2K era
2001-2004: Post 9/11 paranoia and patriotic era
2005-2008: The MySpace era
2009-2012: The Great Recession era
2013-present: The world's going to s*** era

have to agree with this list

To answer the thread's question, I think either 2006 or 2007 within the 2000s. They were around during the core 2000s, while having little to no 90s resemblances with each other.

From my own personal experience, I would say that 2007 is the most distinctive year of the 2000s, with 2003 and 2008 being a close second and third in that order. However, with that said, I believe 2004 is the most distinctive core 2000s year, in terms of popular culture.

From my own personal experience, I would say that 2007 is the most distinctive year of the 2000s, with 2003 and 2008 being a close second and third in that order. However, with that said, I believe 2004 is the most distinctive core 2000s year, in terms of popular culture.


2004 was the most distinctive year in the mid 2000s, even though it did start a lot of mid 2000s trends at the time. But most of the 2000s trends dealt from stuff debuting in 1999-2004, so it wasn't really a big deal to most people. Although most of them died off between 2006-2008.

2009 is the most distinctive because it was the only full year of the decade that Barack Obama was President of the United States, iPhones were somewhat popular, electropop was a significant force in music, Facebook was more popular than MySpace, and HD video was particularly common online. It still had a pretty strong 2000s atmosphere, but it was certainly quite distinct from the rest of the decade.

The years 2000 - 2002 with Y2K, 9/11, the election, etc. The early 2000s were no doubt the most distinctive period of the 2000s.

From my selfish point of view, 2003.

-Family Guy exploded in popularity
-Crunk music was popular, even Britney Spears' In The Zone album had a song, or two, with Crunk in it.
-Holes was a popular movie based on the novel.
-I started high school in the fall.
-Teen pop was fully dead in 2003.
-00's music was fully in gear.
-The Iraq War.

2009 is the most distinctive because it was the only full year of the decade that Barack Obama was President of the United States, iPhones were somewhat popular, electropop was a significant force in music, Facebook was more popular than MySpace, and HD video was particularly common online. It still had a pretty strong 2000s atmosphere, but it was certainly quite distinct from the rest of the decade.


To be fair, 2009 was really like its own from the start to end. But it was like how 1999 was back then. They both transitioned culturally and technologically to most people, while it felt like they stayed during their own decades. Whenever I think of 1999, I always think of people doing the same stuff they did back in 1996-1998. 2009 on the other hand was also when people did the same stuff in 2007-2008. In about 5-10 years when the late 2000s get insanely nostalgic, they'll always compare it with the early 2010s. Much like how the early 2000s is compared carelessly by people who grew up in the 90s.


The years 2000 - 2002 with Y2K, 9/11, the election, etc. The early 2000s were no doubt the most distinctive period of the 2000s.


The early 2000s were still comparable towards the late 90s, specifically 1998 and 1999.

To be fair, 2009 was really like its own from the start to end. But it was like how 1999 was back then. They both transitioned culturally and technologically to most people, while it felt like they stayed during their own decades. Whenever I think of 1999, I always think of people doing the same stuff they did back in 1996-1998. 2009 on the other hand was also when people did the same stuff in 2007-2008. In about 5-10 years when the late 2000s get insanely nostalgic, they'll always compare it with the early 2010s. Much like how the early 2000s is compared carelessly by people who grew up in the 90s.

The early 2000s were still comparable towards the late 90s, specifically 1998 and 1999.

It's the other way around. 1999 was related to the 2000s, not 90s. The real 90s ended in 1998 so 1999 isn't a part of that. The early 2000s were not related to the 1990s at all. They had a distinctive 2000s vibe. If there was one word you had to use to describe the 2000s decade overall, it would be Y2K in my opinion.

It's the other way around. 1999 was related to the 2000s, not 90s. The real 90s ended in 1998 so 1999 isn't a part of that. The early 2000s were not related to the 1990s at all. They had a distinctive 2000s vibe. If there was one word you had to use to describe the 2000s decade overall, it would be Y2K in my opinion.


Even though the 90s still had a lot of leftovers by 1999, I don't see why it could be the true end of the 90s. Dial-up was still popular, Bill Clinton was still the U.S. president, a lot of people still had VCRs, and getting a DVD player was quite expensive at the time. The 90s culturally died off around 2001, at least to what I see.

Even though the 90s still had a lot of leftovers by 1999, I don't see why it could be the true end of the 90s. Dial-up was still popular, Bill Clinton was still the U.S. president, a lot of people still had VCRs, and getting a DVD player was quite expensive at the time. The 90s culturally died off around 2001, at least to what I see.

No the 90s ended around 1998. They may had had leftovers, but the overall feel of the 90s was totally gone in the early 2000s. The early 2000s was not an extension of the 90s, despite what many believe.

No the 90s ended around 1998. They may had had leftovers, but the overall feel of the 90s was totally gone in the early 2000s. The early 2000s was not an extension of the 90s, despite what many believe.


I'm not sure if the early 2000s was when everybody completely forgot about the 90s. Much like I said, it was that time when VCRs were commonly used. Plus, most people in 1999 used either Windows 95 or 98, compared to using Windows 2000 and XP by 2002 and 2003.

I'm going to say 2009 as well. There's no other year like it. It had some early '10s coming in, but the pop culture and the technology still had a strong core 2000s vibe to it for the first half of the year. Towards end of the year you could really feel the change. It's also an entire year of the economy tanking. I don't think any other year can say the same. Even 2010 was only tanking for the first half ;D

I'm going to say 2009 as well. There's no other year like it. It had some early '10s coming in, but the pop culture and the technology still had a strong core 2000s vibe to it for the first half of the year. Towards end of the year you could really feel the change. It's also an entire year of the economy tanking. I don't think any other year can say the same. Even 2010 was only tanking for the first half ;D

I disagree. I think 2009 is strictly a 2010s year culturally.

I disagree. I think 2009 is strictly a 2010s year culturally.


I don't play that game no more ;D  :-X

I don't play that game no more ;D  :-X


I heard you were a snake in one of your past lives. SSssssssssssss.  >:(  >:(  >:(

I heard you were a snake in one of your past lives. SSssssssssssss.  >:(  >:(  >:(


The Pokémon that comes before Slowpoke is Rapidash. So most likely, I was a flaming horse.

I disagree. I think 2009 is strictly a 2010s year culturally.


Frankly, I don't think 2009 was that much of a 2010s year culturally. It did have some 2010s vibes by the end of the year, but it was like how 1999 transitioned into the new millennium by the second half.

2009 was still part of the late 2000's to early 2010's transition earlier in the year, but most of 2009 as a whole definitely leans more towards early 2010's culture. 2008 was the last real 2000's year and even then the year was very transitional and it was no longer core 2000's at all. 2009 was the only year in the 2000's Barack Obama was in office. 2000 was the only year in the 2000's Bill Clinton was in office. 2000 was still millennial/Y2K but 2009 was the beginning of 2010's culture. The most distinctive 2000's year was 2005 IMO. 

2009 was still part of the late 2000's to early 2010's transition earlier in the year, but most of 2009 as a whole definitely leans more towards early 2010's culture. 2008 was the last real 2000's year and even then the year was very transitional and it was no longer core 2000's at all. 2009 was the only year in the 2000's Barack Obama was in office. 2000 was the only year in the 2000's Bill Clinton was in office. 2000 was still millennial/Y2K but 2009 was the beginning of 2010's culture. The most distinctive 2000's year was 2005 IMO.


Yeah, 2005 is the most distinct 2000's year. The early '00s leans to the Y2K era along with 1998-1999. 2003 is transitional year, but most of it still leaned closer to the Y2K era than any other era. 2005-2006/'07 feel like distinct 2000s years to me. They don't feel like to relate to the Y2K era of the late 1990s/early 2000s of the Electropop era of the late 2000s/early 2010s.

Yeah, 2005 is the most distinct 2000's year. The early '00s leans to the Y2K era along with 1998-1999. 2003 is transitional year, but most of it still leaned closer to the Y2K era than any other era. 2005-2006/'07 feel like distinct 2000s years to me. They don't feel like to relate to the Y2K era of the late 1990s/early 2000s of the Electropop era of the late 2000s/early 2010s.


Late 2004-2007 were rather the most distinctive years of the 2000s. Even though they shared a lot of early 2000s references, they were still like themselves throughout the era.

Late 2004-2007 were rather the most distinctive years of the 2000s. Even though they shared a lot of early 2000s references, they were still like themselves throughout the era.


I can get that. In pre-2004 we were still trying to shake off the millennial/Y2K era. And Post-2007 we had the Electropop era. The middle of the 2000s are the only era to not really fall into any era of the beginning and end of the 2000s.

I can get that. In pre-2004 we were still trying to shake off the millennial/Y2K era. And Post-2007 we had the Electropop era. The middle of the 2000s are the only era to not really fall into any era of the beginning and end of the 2000s.


Yeah. Although it wasn't until late 2008 when most people saw some changes. Around the 2007-08 school year, it was still distinctive towards the 2000s.

Frankly, I don't think 2009 was that much of a 2010s year culturally. It did have some 2010s vibes by the end of the year, but it was like how 1999 transitioned into the new millennium by the second half.

Mid to late 2008 is when the 2010s began. 2009 is definitely 100% 2010s. Everything was different that year compared to the rest of the 2000s (Obama in office, electropop, Lady Gaga, etc.)

2006

Mid to late 2008 is when the 2010s began. 2009 is definitely 100% 2010s. Everything was different that year compared to the rest of the 2000s (Obama in office, electropop, Lady Gaga, etc.)


Just because 2009 had some 2010s vibes, that doesn't mean it was 100% 2010s. A 2010s year that has 100% of its distinctive culture would be 2016.

Just because 2009 had some 2010s vibes, that doesn't mean it was 100% 2010s. A 2010s year that has 100% of its distinctive culture would be 2016.

2009 felt even more 10s than 2016 in a way. The early 2010s is what defines the 2010s decadd the most. When someone says 2010s, the first thing I think about is early 2010s colourful fashion and Lady Gaga. Which is why 2009 is a cultural 2010s year.

2009 felt even more 10s than 2016 in a way. The early 2010s is what defines the 2010s decadd the most. When someone says 2010s, the first thing I think about is early 2010s colourful fashion and Lady Gaga. Which is why 2009 is a cultural 2010s year.


Lady Gaga was more late 2000s/early 2010s. She's not even as popular as Lorde or Adele since 2013. Plus, not everybody used smartphones by 2009, so that doesn't really make it entirely 2010s.

Lady Gaga was more late 2000s/early 2010s. She's not even as popular as Lorde or Adele since 2013. Plus, not everybody used smartphones by 2009, so that doesn't really make it entirely 2010s.

Lady Gaga is the most definitive artist of the 10s because she was popular in the early 10s, the early 10s were the most definitive period of the 10s. Plus she is still well known today. Smartphones aren't the only thing tbag define the decade. Overall today we still have a lot of stuff similar to the early 10s, the 10s is a very consistent decade. And the late 00s/early 10s are one era.

Mid to late 2008 is when the 2010s began. 2009 is definitely 100% 2010s. Everything was different that year compared to the rest of the 2000s (Obama in office, electropop, Lady Gaga, etc.)


Haha, this is my old opinion and how I used to think about early 2010's culture starting in the middle of 2008. Good ol' thinking from me.

Lady Gaga is the most definitive artist of the 10s because she was popular in the early 10s, the early 10s were the most definitive period of the 10s. Plus she is still well known today. Smartphones aren't the only thing tbag define the decade. Overall today we still have a lot of stuff similar to the early 10s, the 10s is a very consistent decade. And the late 00s/early 10s are one era.


The early 2010s were basically just a continuation of late 2008 and 2009. How is it the most definitive era for the decade? Most early 2010s influences already died off by 2013.

The early 2010s were basically just a continuation of late 2008 and 2009. How is it the most definitive era for the decade? Most early 2010s influences already died off by 2013.

They certainly didn't all die off by 2013. Most of what we seen to day in some form started in 2008. And yes, it is an extension of 2008 and 2009. But it is still the most definitive period of the 2010s and the era that had the most culture.

They certainly didn't all die off by 2013. Most of what we seen to day in some form started in 2008. And yes, it is an extension of 2008 and 2009. But it is still the most definitive period of the 2010s and the era that had the most culture.


Technologically, I could see something like that. But they drastically evolve every year, especially iPhones. For example, every year they discontinue the older iOS versions that aren't compatible with the newer iPhones. The pre-Tim Cook (or Crook in my case) iPhones are pale in comparison with the post-Tim Cook iPhones. Culturally, I don't think so. Rebecca Black's Friday was more early 2010s, and nobody bitched about it since 2012. That's how much the early 2010s survived throughout this decade.

Technologically, I could see something like that. But they drastically evolve every year, especially iPhones. For example, every year they discontinue the older iOS versions that aren't compatible with the newer iPhones. The pre-Tim Cook (or Crook in my case) iPhones are pale in comparison with the post-Tim Cook iPhones. Culturally, I don't think so. Rebecca Black's Friday was more early 2010s, and nobody bitched about it since 2012. That's how much the early 2010s survived throughout this decade.

For me it's the opposite. Technologically so much has changed but culturally it is very similar.  ;D

For me it's the opposite. Technologically so much has changed but culturally it is very similar.  ;D


They still had some rock during the early 2010s, except it wasn't entirely mainstream.

2009 probabably

2009 felt even more 10s than 2016 in a way. The early 2010s is what defines the 2010s decadd the most. When someone says 2010s, the first thing I think about is early 2010s colourful fashion and Lady Gaga. Which is why 2009 is a cultural 2010s year.


I agree with this the early 2010's will always be THE 2010's to me

The years 2000 - 2002 with Y2K, 9/11, the election, etc. The early 2000s were no doubt the most distinctive period of the 2000s.

Sorry I'm dumb sometimes.  :-\\ I was thinking it said "definitive" rather than distinctive. I meant 2000-2002 were the most definitive time. I agree with others though that the most distinctive year of the 2000s is 2009 for sure!

I'm going to say 2009 as well. There's no other year like it. It had some early '10s coming in, but the pop culture and the technology still had a strong core 2000s vibe to it for the first half of the year. Towards end of the year you could really feel the change. It's also an entire year of the economy tanking. I don't think any other year can say the same. Even 2010 was only tanking for the first half ;D

While I do still think 2009 is a cultural 2010s year, I do agree with you it is the most distinctive year in the decade. Everything changed in 2008 - 2009.

I agree with this the early 2010's will always be THE 2010's to me

Yeah it's like Lil Wayne, skinny jeans, bright colored fashion (bright blue and yellow in particular), tight clothing, Lady Gaga, and autotuned electro pop dance music all scream 2010s to me. If there is a 2010s party in the future I bet they will be playing more songs like "Party Rock Anthem" by LMFAO and Lady Gaga rather than 24K Magic by Bruno Mars and Ariana Grande.

Just because 2009 had some 2010s vibes, that doesn't mean it was 100% 2010s.


I agree. There's no doubting that 2009 had significant 2010s influences, but I wouldn't consider it to be an outright cultural 2010s year. In fact, I can remember 2010 and even 2011 still having somewhat of a 2000s vibe. Culturally speaking, I believe 2012 is the first outright 2010s year.

Culturally speaking, I believe 2012 is the first outright 2010s year.

2012 and 2011 were like identical years to me with no differences at all.

I agree. There's no doubting that 2009 had significant 2010s influences, but I wouldn't consider it to be an outright cultural 2010s year. In fact, I can remember 2010 and even 2011 still having somewhat of a 2000s vibe. Culturally speaking, I believe 2012 is the first outright 2010s year.


This I agree with, since I always thought 2010 and 2011 was like the earliest post-2000s years that had some resemblances. Even back then, the Internet around us was different. My life back then was really different before Steve Jobs died in late 2011.

Sorry I'm dumb sometimes.  :-\\ I was thinking it said "definitive" rather than distinctive. I meant 2000-2002 were the most definitive time. I agree with others though that the most distinctive year of the 2000s is 2009 for sure!


LOL  ;D

LOL  ;D

Lol midterm season.  ;D

This I agree with, since I always thought 2010 and 2011 was like the earliest post-2000s years that had some resemblances. Even back then, the Internet around us was different. My life back then was really different before Steve Jobs died in late 2011.

I also agree that 2011 was the last year that still had any 00s feel to it. I don't remember 2012 feeling anything like the 00s, unlike 2002 which still had a bit of a 90s feel!

Occupy Wall Street in late 2011 where the kids were filming things with their smartphones and iPads and uploading it online felt very new at the time, but there were some filming with their laptop webcams and that was very 2000s LOL

unlike 2002 which still had a bit of a 90s feel!

2002 did not have a 90s feel at all.

2002 did not have a 90s feel at all.


It absolutely did. It was the last full year where VHS tapes was still dominant towards home entertainment, while DVDs were still the minority. It was also around the time where many people still used dial-up, especially with AOL's service. This is coming from somebody who vaguely remembers 2002, by the way.

It absolutely did. It was the last full year where VHS tapes was still dominant towards home entertainment, while DVDs were still the minority. It was also around the time where many people still used dial-up, especially with AOL's service. This is coming from somebody who vaguely remembers 2002, by the way.

Having VHS, dial-up, and other things does not warrant something as a 90s year. 2002 was not a 1990s year at all, far from it. It was a 2000s year, not 90s.

Having VHS, dial-up, and other things does not warrant something as a 90s year. 2002 was not a 1990s year at all, far from it. It was a 2000s year, not 90s.


Yeah, it does. It culturally was a 90s year to most people. The only difference was that it was around the time when 2000s influences started to be more relevant, so it was rather like half 90s/half 00s. Sure, it was the first post-9/11 year and '43 Bush was the U.S. president, however a lot of people could still sense Clinton's presidency by then. Especially kids at the time (at least those before 1997). A lot of people are nostalgic about the early 2000s (especially 2002) for that reason.

Yeah, it does. It culturally was a 90s year to most people. The only difference was that it was around the time when 2000s influences started to be more relevant, so it was rather like half 90s/half 00s. Sure, it was the first post-9/11 year and '43 Bush was the U.S. president, however a lot of people could still sense Clinton's presidency by then. Especially kids at the time (at least those before 1997). A lot of people are nostalgic about the early 2000s (especially 2002) for that reason.

Lol no it wasn't... Almost no one on this forum or in general thinks 2002 is a 90s year... That is ridiculous. It genuinely makes me laugh when people call 2002 the 90s.

Hold on a second. I think you two are a going to have an endless argument on this. First Slim's pop culture in the early 2000s wouldn't match NewYorkEagle's as you two grew up in different regions. So arguing on what the early 2000s were like is ridiculous in itself as you would didn't have the same culture. It's like if a person from the US argued with a person from the UK on what culture within 2005. Is pointless. If Slim says that 2002 was completely different from any 1990s year than I can respect that as maybe that is how it was in his region. Same goes NewYorkEagle who is in the same region as I am.

As for the year 2002 the year did in fact have a lot of 1990s leftovers. By 1990s I mean late 1990s/Y2K era. Saying that 2002 was nothing like 1999 is strange as that does not match with how pop culture works. 1999 was already pretty far removed from core 1990s culture. In fact 1999 is closer to 2002 than it is 1995 (which is the absolute core of the 1990s in terms of culture). I was 9 in 1999 and 12 in 2002. My memory isn't the best, but I'd be lying if I said that things were completely different between the two years. Fashion, music, games, tv shows etc from 1999 were still relevant by 2002. I don't think 2002 is a 1990s year, but then again I hardly see 1999 as a 1990s year culturally as well. 1999 nor 2002 can be seen as years that reflect their respective decades in terms of pop culture. 

2002 was a fun year so it's '90s. ;D

As for the year 2002 the year did in fact have a lot of 1990s leftovers. By 1990s I mean late 1990s/Y2K era. Saying that 2002 was nothing like 1999 is strange as that does not match with how pop culture works. 1999 was already pretty far removed from core 1990s culture. In fact 1999 is closer to 2002 than it is 1995 (which is the absolute core of the 1990s in terms of culture). I was 9 in 1999 and 12 in 2002. My memory isn't the best, but I'd be lying if I said that things were completely different between the two years. Fashion, music, games, tv shows etc from 1999 were still relevant by 2002. I don't think 2002 is a 1990s year, but then again I hardly see 1999 as a 1990s year culturally as well. 1999 nor 2002 can be seen as years that reflect their respective decades in terms of pop culture.

Okay fair enough but nobody thinks 2002 is a "90s year". I personally believe it didn't really have 90s leftovers, and many others believe it did, that's all fine. But I don't think anybody actually thinks 2002 is a "1990s year," that's just laughable. Other than BuzzFeed and little kids of course. I mean even saying it is "late 90s" is a little more acceptable.

Okay fair enough but nobody thinks 2002 is a "90s year". I personally believe it didn't really have 90s leftovers, and many others believe it did, that's all fine. But I don't think anybody actually thinks 2002 is a "1990s year," that's just laughable. Other than BuzzFeed and little kids of course. I mean even saying it is "late 90s" is a little more acceptable.


When I said that it's like a 90s year, I usually meant by the late 90s. There's no way that 2002 can be related with stuff from 1990-1996. It seems rather inexcusable. The reason why I said that is because 2002 doesn't really seem definitive throughout the entire 2000s decade, aside from being near towards the decade itself. By 2002, people were still doing the stuff that they did in 1998-2001. The only difference was that 9/11 happened, '43 Bush was our president, and broadband Internet was slightly noticeable.

By late 2003, we already drifted off from the late 90s and pre-9/11 early 2000s, but not enough from 2002-2003 itself. However, it was the predictable start of the core 2000s by many people. With that said, many core 2000s shows started to take over TV, while broadband Internet was becoming the norm. The Internet was developing into a subculture at the moment, where most people could easily view on their broadband routers. I honestly don't know why you never had that feel in Canada, since AOL was experienced similarly like in the U.S.

When I said that it's like a 90s year, I usually meant by the late 90s. There's no way that 2002 can be related with stuff from 1990-1996. It seems rather inexcusable. The reason why I said that is because 2002 doesn't really seem definitive throughout the entire 2000s decade, aside from being near towards the decade itself. By 2002, people were still doing the stuff that they did in 1998-2001. The only difference was that 9/11 happened, '43 Bush was our president, and broadband Internet was slightly noticeable.

By late 2003, we already drifted off from the late 90s and pre-9/11 early 2000s, but not enough from 2002-2003 itself. However, it was the predictable start of the core 2000s by many people. With that said, many core 2000s shows started to take over TV, while broadband Internet was becoming the norm. The Internet was developing into a subculture at the moment, where most people could easily view on their broadband routers. I honestly don't know why you never had that feel in Canada, since AOL was experienced similarly like in the U.S.

Well i don't believe 2002 has anything in common with the late 90s. The last year that had things in common with 1999 (not late 90s, just 1991 which was part of the Y2K era) was 2001. Anyways this is just my opinion, I know a lot of people who think think the late 90s/early 2000s is one era and I just personally don't believe that.

Well i don't believe 2002 has anything in common with the late 90s. The last year that had things in common with 1999 (not late 90s, just 1991 which was part of the Y2K era) was 2001. Anyways this is just my opinion, I know a lot of people who think think the late 90s/early 2000s is one era and I just personally don't believe that.


I'm gonna be curious. What made you think 2002 didn't feel like 1999-2001 altogether?

I'm gonna be curious. What made you think 2002 didn't feel like 1999-2001 altogether?

9/11 marked the end of the Y2K era.

2001 and 2002 are almost like twins!  8)

9/11 marked the end of the Y2K era.


I understand using 9/11, but at the same time I'm also a bit conflicted. 9/11 can be said to cause a change. But that change was mainly from political stand point. Pop culturally 2002 wasn't much different than 2001. A lot of things from 2001 still existed in 2001. Sound of music was the same. Look of fashion was the same. TV shows from 2001 or aired in 2001 were still in 2002. 2002 in gaming still had 6th gen and remaining days of 5th gen. Celebrities that were big in 2001 were a still around in 2002. Too many things continued for 2002 to feel like a different era to me. 9/11 ended things from a political standpoint, but culturally it didn't have a huge effect that caused a massive change. Was quite minimal from what I remember.

2001 and 2002 are almost like twins!  8)


Early 2001 felt a bit more old school. Those were still the Windows 98, Pokémon Stadium days :D

I loved early-mid 2001. In late 2001 I got an evil teacher for Grade 4 LOL.

Early 2001 felt a bit more old school. Those were still the Windows 98, Pokémon Stadium days :D

I loved early-mid 2001. In late 2001 I got an evil teacher for Grade 4 LOL.


My second grade teacher dressed as a witch for Halloween. She told a kid to "shut up" once.  :(

My second grade teacher dressed as a witch for Halloween. She told a kid to "shut up" once.  :(


LOL that sounds fitting ;D

I understand using 9/11, but at the same time I'm also a bit conflicted. 9/11 can be said to cause a change. But that change was mainly from political stand point. Pop culturally 2002 wasn't much different than 2001. A lot of things from 2001 still existed in 2001. Sound of music was the same. Look of fashion was the same. TV shows from 2001 or aired in 2001 were still in 2002. 2002 in gaming still had 6th gen and remaining days of 5th gen. Celebrities that were big in 2001 were a still around in 2002. Too many things continued for 2002 to feel like a different era to me. 9/11 ended things from a political standpoint, but culturally it didn't have a huge effect that caused a massive change. Was quite minimal from what I remember.

Bubblegum pop ended. Britney Spears was no longer "innocent". No more boy bands. Pop music also shifted more from R&B to punk/rock sound (Avril Lavigne and Pink late 2001/2002) These aren't huge changes of course but definitely a little different from the Y2K era. Pokemon fad was also less relevant. Even some fashion trends changed too.

Bubblegum pop ended. Britney Spears was no longer "innocent". No more boy bands. Pop music also shifted more from R&B to punk/rock sound (Avril Lavigne and Pink late 2001/2002) These aren't huge changes of course but definitely a little different from the Y2K era. Pokemon fad was also less relevant. Even some fashion trends changed too.


Of course there will be some changes. But there weren't a lot of changes nor were any of the changes huge. Now I'm getting a tad bit confused. You've mentioned that Y2K era ended due to 9/11. But none of the things you've mentioned had anything to do with 9/11 nor were they effected by it directly. The differences between 2001 and 2002 are differences that you'd normally see as you move from year to year.

Now I can by 2002 not being part of the Y2K era. However, I see 2002/early '03 as a "Faux-Y2K" years if that makes sense. None Y2K years that just had a ton of Y2K stuff leftover. I can get the rule that in order for a year to be a Y2K year it must have a 100% Y2K vibe in terms of culture, economy, politics etc. Not just pop culture. If there any change then the era changes. Due to some minor changes 2002/early 2003 aren't Y2K years, however, they are quite close to the Y2K era in terms of culture. Politically they were different. But culturally they were quite close to the way things were 2000-2001. 2002 is way closer to 2000/2001 (beginning of the decade) than 2005/2006 (quintessential 2000s years)  to me. Although maybe my memory is just being fuzzy again.

This is how I can see it anyways. If you disagree it's all fine. The Y2K era is one that was never officially set in stone in terms of culture and its year spans from what I remember. We all just throw in our ideas. I'm fine with differing opinions as long as some can back their opinions (not saying you didn't as you did).

9/11 marked the end of the Y2K era.


That seems understandable. People here usually see the pre-9/11 early 2000s as the Y2K era, so it's no wonder why you think that.

2005/2006

2000 - Basically 1999.
2001 - Other than 9/11, nothing stands out too much. Pre-9/11 felt somewhat similar to 1999-2000, but newer.

2003 - Blandest year of the decade. To this day I have a hard time describing what that year was like.

2005 - Watered down version of 2004.
2006 - Watered down version of 2005.

2008 - I know everyone says that this was a changeful year, but stylistically I feel like it was a lot like 2007.
2009 - Mixture of 2008 and 2010; nothing really stands out.

So 2002, 2004, and 2007 are the biggest standouts for me, 2002 being the year that sticks out the most. It's the only year that I can easily distinguish from the preceding and succeeding year.

2001
2002
2005
2006
2008

2000 - Basically 1999.
2001 - Other than 9/11, nothing stands out too much. Pre-9/11 felt somewhat similar to 1999-2000, but newer.

2003 - Blandest year of the decade. To this day I have a hard time describing what that year was like.

2005 - Watered down version of 2004.
2006 - Watered down version of 2005.

2008 - I know everyone says that this was a changeful year, but stylistically I feel like it was a lot like 2007.
2009 - Mixture of 2008 and 2010; nothing really stands out.

So 2002, 2004, and 2007 are the biggest standouts for me, 2002 being the year that sticks out the most. It's the only year that I can easily distinguish from the preceding and succeeding year.



2001 for me felt like the culture of the 2000s arrived things felt more mature, music videos had this grey blue cold aesthetic
2005 felt pretty much peak 2000s culture

Both the years 2000-early 2001 and mid-late 2009

The year that Freddy’s Dead: The Final Nightmare takes place in and Prince sang about:

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