Now that 2000 was 14 years ago. Lots of things have happened. There was not much social media, except AOL and Yahoo chat. People still had dial-up internet which was slow. VHS was still popular. There was no online gaming, unless you had a Sega Dreamcast. The Sega corporation were still in business making consoles. No Youtube, Wikipedia, or 9/11. People either had a Walkman, Disc-man or an MP3 to play music. Film cameras were still being used to take photos and record videos. Many people did not have a cellphone as it was still expensive to buy one. Game cartridges were still in use as the N64 was not obsolete yet. Most children still played outside, played board games, video games and having fun together. People saved information using floppy disks. Seeing, writing notes, calling or emailing other people were the best ways to communicate as texting didnt exist as an option. Desktops were bulky and mainstream. Episodes of any TV show or movie had SD resolution. Commercials were a lot better advertising products. So, does anyone consider 2000 retro or still recent?

Do you consider the year 2000 to be retro?

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The 1990s to me are like yesterday. The 80s are slightly retro.  The year 2000 seems like it just happened yesterday.

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Not retro, but definitely dated. To me retro would be anything before 1997.

I wouldn't consider the early 00s retro yet, but they're starting to become dated at a pretty rapid pace.  Watch some youtube videos from back then (not music videos/tv shows, but home videos from a camcorder), and you can really see the age.  But IMO 'retro' is roughly 20+ years.  Basically an era that the current youth generation (teens/early 20s) has little to no memory of.

No!

Are we discussing the Electric Retro 2000 Road Scooter here?

http://www.barnesandrobinson.com/ekmps/shops/toolsville/images/electric-retro-2000-road-scooter-white-452-p.jpg

Haven't we discussed that before - maybe in other threads?
"Are the early 00s dated" or something like that?

BTW: Retro is anything from the very early 90s or earlier. The original Nintendo Game Boy is is one of the newest gadgets I would consider retro.

Do you consider the year 2000 to be retro?

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The 1990s to me are like yesterday. The 80s are slightly retro.  The year 2000 seems like it just happened yesterday.

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;D

Haven't we discussed that before - maybe in other threads?
"Are the early 00s dated" or something like that?

BTW: Retro is anything from the very early 90s or earlier. The original Nintendo Game Boy is is one of the newest gadgets I would consider retro.


The Gameboy was actually 1989.

No, I don't consider the year 2000 to be retro.

Haven't we discussed that before - maybe in other threads?



You are right, maybe in 30 to 40 other threads.  ;D

The Gameboy was actually 1989.


It came out in Europe in 1990 and it was a big thing for children in the first half of the 90s.
So it's an early 90s gadget to me.

Early 2000's feels different, but the later years don't seem far away at all and just blended for me. My teenage years don't feel retro at all!

The early 90s felt retro to me in 2000 but 2000 doesn't feel retro to me now.
The 80s were retro around 1997/1998 IMO.

2009 ended 5 years ago. 


5 YEARS

2009 ended 5 years ago. 


5 YEARS



Just in case you missed that, I did say

5 YEARS

The early 90s felt retro to me in 2000


It's probably because you were still very young in the early 90s (like me).
I really enjoy watching old (early 2000s) computer TV shows and the technology presented in their is really old in comparison to now. I still don't think that these early "smartphones" (yes, they actually used that term in a German 2002 computer show!) are retro, because it still feels not too long ago that this stuff came out. I mean - it was my youth, and I am still quite young.

Just in case you missed that, I did say

5 YEARS
Just a hair's breadth away!

Look how old these commercials are. Are you guys sure they are still recent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEz0QL5wlZE&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obT5Gb8qy1M&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImBpY_I1_3I&hd=1

From wiki:

"Retro style is style that is consciously derivative or imitative of trends, modes, fashions, or attitudes of the recent past. It generally implies a vintage of at least fifteen or twenty years. For example, clothing from the 1980s or 1990s could be retro."

From wiki:

"Retro style is style that is consciously derivative or imitative of trends, modes, fashions, or attitudes of the recent past. It generally implies a vintage of at least fifteen or twenty years. For example, clothing from the 1980s or 1990s could be retro."
And since 2000 was almost 15 years ago, it should now be retro. It hasnt been recent for 7 or 8 years.

Just in case you missed that, I did say

5 YEARS


Did you say

5 YEARS?

I'm waiting for this topic to become like zillion other topics that have been locked by the moderators or deleted. It will turn into arguments over what is retro and what is not, and then it will turn into a 90s kids thread about comparing years, decades, etc...

It has happened way too many times before, we are so used to this now. It's as predictable as the outcome of a guest star wearing a red uniform in the original Star Trek series.

I'm waiting for this topic to become like zillion other topics that have been locked by the moderators or deleted. It will turn into arguments over what is retro and what is not, and then it will turn into a 90s kids thread about comparing years, decades, etc...

It has happened way too many times before, we are so used to this now. It's as predictable as the outcome of a guest star wearing a red uniform in the original Star Trek series.
  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D good one. I ask this question because in 2000, we didnt have any of this we have now and the fact that it was a long time ago. The people who were kids/teens during that year are now adults in their 20s or early 30s.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=32990.0

READ!!!

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=32990.0

READ!!!
I thought decadeology was comparing years, decades etc. I'm not comparing. I was curious if you guys consider the year 2000 to be retro.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=32990.0

READ!!!


What I usually do when I think a post breaks the rules is I report a post, just like today I reported a post that was insulting, mocking to a religious group and people on this site, and it was deleted.

Sorry warped but this just really irritates me.  I know I'm not the moderator here but I felt the need to redirect a person to one of our most outspoken rules "NO DECADOLOGY!"

Sorry warped but this just really irritates me.  I know I'm not the moderator here but I felt the need to redirect a person to one of our most outspoken rules "NO DECADOLOGY!"


No problem. No need to say sorry  :)  It's all good.  With the history of decadeology on this site and the number of absolutely irritating decadeology trolling topics created in the past, I can totally understand your irritation and frustration towards it. 

With the history of decadeology on this site and the number of absolutely irritating decadeology trolling topics created in the past, I can totally understand your irritation and frustration towards it.



http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?topic=32990.0

READ!!!
Hey, may I ask, when i post, am I trolling on this site?

Hey, may I ask, when i post, am I trolling on this site?


Do I think you have been trolling this site? Nope. And a troll probably wouldn't ask that question.  ;)
Having said that , if anyone (you, me, anyone on this site) created a topic or post that does not comply with the rules of the board, the topic/post might get deleted or the topic might get locked. 

Here are the rules of the board.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?action=rules

And Ckeenan have already included a link in her post about decadeology rules.  As a moderator here, I can usually tell if a topic is decadeology, or going down the road of decadeology, or will go down the road of decadeology because it's in the neighborhood and wanting to knock at the door of decadeology. And any of us moderators and long time members can also see when a topic is going down that road.  And we are usually correct. I'd say 99% of the time.  Maybe I'm low-balling the figure.  :D

You are still fairly new so I need to say we've had trouble in the past (on this site) regarding decadeology, even long before I came here. Because of problems in the past, it's come to a point that now that there is ZERO TOLERANCE towards it. 

If you have any more questions or concerns, I'd suggest you ask a lead moderator here.

Do I think you have been trolling this site? Nope. And a troll probably wouldn't ask that question.  ;)
Having said that , if anyone (you, me, anyone on this site) created a topic or post that does not comply with the rules of the board, the topic/post might get deleted or the topic might get locked. 

Here are the rules of the board.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php?action=rules

And Ckeenan have already included a link in her post about decadeology rules.  As a moderator here, I can usually tell if a topic is decadeology, or going down the road of decadeology, or will go down the road of decadeology because it's in the neighborhood and wanting to knock at the door of decadeology. And any of us moderators and long time members can also see when a topic is going down that road.  And we are usually correct. I'd say 99% of the time.  Maybe I'm low-balling the figure.  :D

You are still fairly new so I need to say we've had trouble in the past (on this site) regarding decadeology, even long before I came here. Because of problems in the past, it's come to a point that now that there is ZERO TOLERANCE towards it. 

If you have any more questions or concerns, I'd suggest you ask a lead moderator here.
Alright. thank you. Is just I have only been a member for 3 months and when i was looking at older topics about this, most were from 2006.

It came out in Europe in 1990 and it was a big thing for children in the first half of the 90s.
So it's an early 90s gadget to me.


The Gameboy wasn't popular up until the early 90's.

Early 2000's feels different, but the later years don't seem far away at all and just blended for me. My teenage years don't feel retro at all!


2000 was almost 15 years ago.

I consider the years between 1990 and 1999 to be retro.  I was 21 when the 2000s happened so It may take me until I'm 40, which won't be until 2016, to really appreciate my 20s.  :)

Did you say

5 YEARS?



Yes I did say

5 YEARS?

Look how old these commercials are. Are you guys sure they are still recent?


I wouldn't call 2000 recent (from a pop culture standpoint, at least), but that doesn't mean it's retro.  There's an 'in-between', which I would consider about 10-20 years in the past.  But what's with the rush to label everything retro?

No. But I do think 1995 and before is.

I consider the years between 1990 and 1999 to be retro.  I was 21 when the 2000s happened so It may take me until I'm 40, which won't be until 2016, to really appreciate my 20s.  :)


I believe anything over 20 years old would be considered "retro".

Yes I did say

5 YEARS?


I didn't hear you, could you speak a little louder?  ;D

No. But I do think 1995 and before is.


Good point, because in many of those commercials posted, you can see Internet URLs in them (some of them already without the "www" that was always used in commercials up through sometime in 1998), which to me still seems modern being old enough to remember many years before Internet became mainstream (about six or so). 2000 was also the year that Reality TV became here to say thanks to Survivor and Big Brother. But for the next several years along with the late '90s and rest of the early 2000s, this will still be too recent to feel vintage based upon cultural conventions.

Yes I did say

5 YEARS?
Is that 1461 days?

Is that 1461 days?


1827 days is 5 years, but the '10s are 1530 days old.

1827 days is 5 years, but the '10s are 1530 days old.
Error on my part.

Including day or days for leap years? There was a leap year for 2012.

Good point, because in many of those commercials posted, you can see Internet URLs in them (some of them already without the "www" that was always used in commercials up through sometime in 1998), which to me still seems modern


I think a bit differently about web addresses being modern nowadays. Even though it's still done very often, it's actually a bit weird to use Internet URLs in commercials today. Everybody knows that there must be a WWW page of the respective product or offer. In my opinion, modern commercials leave out Internet URLs completely or maybe add a facebook/twitter sign...

That's how I see it:

http://www.xyz.com <- mid-late 90s: very outdated
www.xyz.com <- late 90s-early 00s: outdated
xyz.com <-early 00s-current: outdated and unnecessary

Error on my part.

Including day or days for leap years? There was a leap year for 2012.


I think so. I have used a calculator in the internet and typed in the start and end date.

1827 days is 5 years, but the '10s are 1530 days old.



Wow, those are a lot of days.

The year 2000 is absolutely retro. I know the older people are going to say it isn't because they don't want to feel old (I don't want to feel old either, but I'm being realistic.) They want to think the year 2000 is recent in order to feel fresh and youthful. But we're talking about the year 2000, which means that 90% of the things that were popular back then are no longer popular. 2000: floppy disks, the ps1 or the n64, dial-up internet, pagers, desktop computers, teen pop and 90's clothes. You can even throw a retro party about the year 2000. A lot of the kids who were born in that year started posting on the internet years ago. IMO the early 00's are retro, the mid 00's are dated and the late 00's are still "recent".

I agree that stuff from 2000 is absolutely outdated, but it is still too recent to consider it retro. Was mid 80s stuff considered retro in the late 90s/early 00s?

I agree that stuff from 2000 is absolutely outdated, but it is still too recent to consider it retro. Was mid 80s stuff considered retro in the late 90s/early 00s?

I considered it retro back then.

I agree that stuff from 2000 is absolutely outdated, but it is still too recent to consider it retro. Was mid 80s stuff considered retro in the late 90s/early 00s?


Since "inthe80s.com" (originally Chucky G's) was around back then and still is with many posts from then still posted, yeah, it was. This site even has an archive section with threads dating back to 1998 with some such as "don't the '90s suck?", so if there isn't any clearer proof, I don't know what to say. Nowadays the mid-80s are considered "vintage". Interestingly, the web design of inthe80s.com in itself is fairly retro by modern web standards, lacking the flash technology. It even still has a '90s equivalents page! The '80s though aged much faster though due to the quicker cultural changes of the '90s; the nostalgia for the year 2000 is a lot more to do with the technology since the pop culture hasn't changed as quickly since then, though it is still quite noticeable.

floppy disks, the ps1 or the n64, dial-up internet, pagers, desktop computers, teen pop and 90's clothes.

these things are irrelevant now compared to almost 15 years ago.

I think we still have to wait until the late 10s or 2020 maybe until 2000 really feels "retro".
My point is that people generally use technology longer than just a year. As for me, a lot of stuff bought around 2000 was still in use until ca. 2006/07. To call something "slightly retro", it must be a thing which I haven't used for more than 10-15 years. And this is for example the original Gameboy (last use ca. 1998) or Super Nintendo (last use ca. 1996).

VHS, CRT TV, floppy disks, dial-up internet, desktop computers, big cell phones... this is stuff which was still common until the mid 00s.

VHS, CRT TV, floppy disks, dial-up internet, desktop computers, big cell phones... this is stuff which was still common until the mid 00s.

till they got phased out but nowadays you rarely see them.

Did the year 1990 feel retro in 2004? 1980 in 1994? 1970 in 1984? etc...

Did the year 1990 feel retro in 2004? 1980 in 1994? 1970 in 1984? etc...


What do you think?

I didn't really think of the 90s being 'retro' before the turn of the decade.

What do you think?

I didn't really think of the 90s being 'retro' before the turn of the decade.


Do you mean that as a rhetorical question? Otherwise I don't know because I can't remember 1990 and I wasn't alive in 1980 :D

The '90s as a whole wouldn't have seemed retro in 2004, but I imagine the pseudo-'80s-ness of the very early '90s would have seemed somewhat retro.

The 2000's aren't kitschy yet. Its not retro if its not kitschy.

Its not retro if its not kitschy.


Not the 2000s as a whole, but the millennial era is moving into that direction.

Do you mean that as a rhetorical question?


No, that was a real question ;)
You might have some imaginations about that year from watching movies or photos from 1990.

No, that was a real question ;)
You might have some imaginations about that year from watching movies or photos from 1990.


Based on the photos and home movies I have seen from when I was a newborn, the clothing and hairstyles of 1990 were very different from 2004 (I notice a lot of poodle-like hairstyles, tight jeans, and big sweaters in 1990 and early '91)

I agree that stuff from 2000 is absolutely outdated, but it is still too recent to consider it retro. Was mid 80s stuff considered retro in the late 90s/early 00s?
I remember seeing an episode of Sabrina, The Animated Series from the year 2000, and she was having a 'retro 80s' dance at her school. So in other words, probably.
1999/2000 doesn't seem old enough to be called retro. You could wear popular fashion from those years and most people won't bat an eye at you (unless it was something obvious like frosted tips on guys or belly shirts on girls). Today I wore a camo tank, oakley sunglasses, and my hair was spiked. That would be a common look around the year 2000, but I didn't see people staring at me or thinking I was weird for it. However, if you were to dress like it was 1985 in 2000, you would definitely stand out.

Do you mean that as a rhetorical question? Otherwise I don't know because I can't remember 1990 and I wasn't alive in 1980 :D

The '90s as a whole wouldn't have seemed retro in 2004, but I imagine the pseudo-'80s-ness of the very early '90s would have seemed somewhat retro.


I think this whole thread is dumb!

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I think this whole thread is dumb!


Quite possibly the most profound and exact statement you've ever come up with, Howard!

I think this whole thread is dumb!


You don't need to post in here.

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I think this whole thread is dumb!


I didn't start this thread, so idk why you're directing this at me.

I think this whole thread is dumb!
If you don't like a thread, don't post in it.
And yes I know people can post wherever they want, but by posting in a thread you're only bumping it and thus giving it more attention.

You don't need to post in here.


Sorry Inland, I must've overreacted.

I didn't start this thread, so idk why you're directing this at me.


It's the person who started this. I have nothing against you. You're cool in my book. :)

It's the person who started this. I have nothing against you. You're cool in my book. :)
I wasnt trying to be a troll. I was just curious if you guys thought that the year 2000 was retro or not. Sorry if I irritated all of you. I really didnt mean to.

I wasnt trying to be a troll. I was just curious if you guys thought that the year 2000 was retro or not. Sorry if I irritated all of you. I really didnt mean to.


That's ok Crash. :)

That's ok Crash. :)
Good good.  :) :) :). Back to the topic. One thing I noticed about 2000 being retro is that the music scene has changed. In 2000, people were listening to teen pop (Britney, NSYNC, BSB, Christina). Today, people are listening to indie music (Imagine Dragons, Lorde, Lana Del Rey, Fun.)

Good good.  :) :) :). Back to the topic. One thing I noticed about 2000 being retro is that the music scene has changed. In 2000, people were listening to teen pop (Britney, NSYNC, BSB, Christina). Today, people are listening to indie music (Imagine Dragons, Lorde, Lana Del Rey, Fun.)


I just don't see teen pop 15 years ago as being retro. I mean teen pop in the 50's and 60's were retro but not the 2000's.

I just don't see teen pop 15 years ago as being retro.


I agree with that. And if you listen carefully you will notice that today's pop music is not that far away from early 00s music.

I agree with that. And if you listen carefully you will notice that today's pop music is not that far away from early 00s music.
That's true, but depending on how far you want to go, you could even say today's music still has the same formulas used in the 1980s.

you could even say today's music still has the same formulas used in the 1980s.


Yes, and that's what I like about today's music. Even disco is not so far away.

That's true, but depending on how far you want to go, you could even say today's music still has the same formulas used in the 1980s.


except the trumpets horns and saxophones.

Yes, and that's what I like about today's music. Even disco is not so far away.


Huh? Disco was 35 years ago.

I just don't see teen pop 15 years ago as being retro. I mean teen pop in the 50's and 60's were retro but not the 2000's.
You will soon. In 6 years,  2000 will be 20 years ago.


I agree with that. And if you listen carefully you will notice that today's pop music is not that far away from early 00s music.
  It's probably because some of the artists who started their careers in the early 2000s are still making music today.

Huh? Disco was 35 years ago.


What about "Get Lucky" from Daft Punk (2013)?

You will soon. In 6 years,  2000 will be 20 years ago.


2000 was once the epitome of modern culture to me. Can't imagine how it will feel when it's 20 years old.

That's true, but depending on how far you want to go, you could even say today's music still has the same formulas used in the 1980s.



Yes, and that's what I like about today's music. Even disco is not so far away.


I hear what both of you are saying. I hear elements of 80s music and disco in today's music.  Probably why I felt music began to decline in the 80s and (just my personal opinion) why I dislike today's music, and my favorite era for music was 1964-1979 (except the disco stuff).

I also hear what people are saying about fashion ( which I admit I have NO eye for) and technology has changed since the year 2000. Reason why I still see the year 2000 as recent is because my life hasn't changed much between the ages of 40 and 50. However the young people here see the year 2000 as retro because they were kids or young teens in the year 2000, and their lives have changed a lot.

What about "Get Lucky" from Daft Punk (2013)?


never heard of that song.

2000 was once the epitome of modern culture to me. Can't imagine how it will feel when it's 20 years old.


I can't imagine either.

2000 is not retro and I think that's pretty weird, in 1974 1960 was absolutely ancient, heck 1962 is only 11 years from the year American Graffiti was released. 

In the movie Final Destination 5 it seems the story takes place in the present(circa 2011) but it turns out it was set in the year 2000.

Not retro, but quite a few differences.

I guess 1980 was retro in 1994. At time, I was 12, and it didn't seem mega old to me. Only a little old. In retrospect, there were huge differences.

Not retro, but quite a few differences.

I guess 1980 was retro in 1994. At time, I was 12, and it didn't seem mega old to me. Only a little old. In retrospect, there were huge differences.
it may be a few differences, but soon in about 7 years,  there will be major differences. I mean, 2000 will be 21 years ago 7 years from now.

it may be a few differences, but soon in about 7 years,  there will be major differences. I mean, 2000 will be 21 years ago 7 years from now.


you mean 6 years from now, not 7.

Not retro, but quite a few differences.

I guess 1980 was retro in 1994. At time, I was 12, and it didn't seem mega old to me. Only a little old. In retrospect, there were huge differences.


and 1980 in 2014 would be almost 35 years ago and that's retro.

you mean 6 years from now, not 7.


In 7 years we have 2021, so it's 21 years after 2000.

The other day I was watching a 2000 movie and I don't know... the vibe of the movie seemed retro to me. People were wearing 90's clothes (which looked pretty basic) and no one was using cellphones. The computers they had were old and the internet pages were very primitive. Cars looked old to me and the pop music they played doesn't sound like the electro/dance pop we have today. If 2000 is not retro then I guess it won't be long before it is lol.  ;D

Just because things aren't like today, it does not mean they are retro IMO. 2000 is dated, nothing more.

Just because things aren't like today, it does not man they are retro IMO. 2000 is dated, nothing more.


Exactly.  'Retro' to me means that it's old enough to be cool.  For example, I've noticed teens wearing flanel or trying to bring the high-top fade back.  But I don't see anyone wearing shell necklaces or frosted tips.  It's still seen as 'out of date,' not 'retro'.

yes that's a good middle ground. Dated...but not yet retro

To me things only really start feeling retro 1993 and before.

Ah nope I am still busy wrapping my head around the 80s being retro!!! And now all the fashion mistakes of the last 30 years have come to haunt us,and video tapes of being younger too!!! Egads!!

Ah nope I am still busy wrapping my head around the 80s being retro!!!


Same here...

Debby was here!!!  :)

Same here...

Debby was here!!!  :)
.  Sure was its been a while lol

Exactly.  'Retro' to me means that it's old enough to be cool.  For example, I've noticed teens wearing flanel or trying to bring the high-top fade back.  But I don't see anyone wearing shell necklaces or frosted tips.  It's still seen as 'out of date,' not 'retro'.


I see some guys sporting the afros from the 70's.

.  Sure was its been a while lol


How's everything?  :)

yes that's a good middle ground. Dated...but not yet retro

To me things only really start feeling retro 1993 and before.

Yes! No longer in style, but not coming back into style all over again. I see nineties fashion creeping in with high waisted jeans (won't wear them) and crop tops.

Exactly.  'Retro' to me means that it's old enough to be cool.  For example, I've noticed teens wearing flanel or trying to bring the high-top fade back.  But I don't see anyone wearing shell necklaces or frosted tips.  It's still seen as 'out of date,' not 'retro'.
I had of one of those when I was kid.

I don't know ... for example my mom lived her youth in the 80's and she will not accept the 80's are retro because according to her, many 80's fads are coming back.  ::) But I look at the 80's and they look retro to me. Then I watch videos like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcf3q03iFA and the early 2000's look retro to me. Retroness is in the eye of the beholder.  :D But many old people will not admit their youth eras are retro because they don't want to feel old and done. And I can't blame them for that. In a way 2000 is still kinda recent, we still have computers, cellphones and wifi internet I mean.... internet.  ;)

How's everything?  :)
Just fine,how is Pathmark these days? I hope all is good with you! ;D

I had of one of those when I was kid.


I bet you wish you had a high top fade.

I don't know ... for example my mom lived her youth in the 80's and she will not accept the 80's are retro because according to her, many 80's fads are coming back.  ::) But I look at the 80's and they look retro to me. Then I watch videos like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcf3q03iFA and the early 2000's look retro to me. Retroness is in the eye of the beholder.  :D But many old people will not admit their youth eras are retro because they don't want to feel old and done. And I can't blame them for that. In a way 2000 is still kinda recent, we still have computers, cellphones and wifi internet I mean.... internet.  ;)

Just fine,how is Pathmark these days? I hope all is good with you! ;D


good, celebrating 7 years next month. :)

Let's move the conversation somewhere else, I don't want to hijack this thread. ;)

I bet you wish you had a high top fade.
hahahah. Yeah, I wish I did. About that, I think they are coming back because I have seen a few guys with them.

hahahah. Yeah, I wish I did. About that, I think they are coming back because I have seen a few guys with them.


I also see guys wearing afros.

I also see guys wearing afros.
Same here. Those are coming back too even though they may have came back sometime either in 2011/2012 or earlier.

Same here. Those are coming back too even though they may have came back sometime either in 2011/2012 or earlier.


guess people like the style.

guess people like the style.
Thats right!! Not only that, I think braids are coming back too, unless they never disappeared.

I also see guys wearing afros.
Afros have existed long before 2000.

Thats right!! Not only that, I think braids are coming back too, unless they never disappeared.


and also the Rasta look.

good, celebrating 7 years next month. :)

Let's move the conversation somewhere else, I don't want to hijack this thread. ;)


There is no way you can hijack this thread, Howard. It's all good.

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and also the Rasta look.
I have seen that too. Most of the time you will see that look on hippies and pot/weed smokers.

I'd say it's dated, but not quite retro. That said, I feel that 1986 seemed more distant in the year 2000 than 2000 does now. Now, that could be a function of me having not existed in 1986 (born the following year), but still, I have seen movies and music videos from the period and it seems like 1986 fashion was more different from 2000 fashion than 2000 fashion is from present fashion, for example. Why would that be?

Can 'retro' be defined as style or fashion from the last generation?

I'd say it's dated, but not quite retro. That said, I feel that 1986 seemed more distant in the year 2000 than 2000 does now. Now, that could be a function of me having not existed in 1986 (born the following year), but still, I have seen movies and music videos from the period and it seems like 1986 fashion was more different from 2000 fashion than 2000 fashion is from present fashion, for example. Why would that be?


1986 would be 28 years ago so it would be considered retro.

1986 would be 28 years ago so it would be considered retro.

I know that, but I am comparing the amount of change in the fourteen years from 1986 to 2000 with the amount of change from 2000 to 2014.

I'd say it's dated, but not quite retro. That said, I feel that 1986 seemed more distant in the year 2000 than 2000 does now.


I would agree with that, but it's probably only because I didn't 'live' 1986.

I would agree with that, but it's probably only because I didn't 'live' 1986.


I acknowledge that possible explanation too (I was born in 1987, so I assume just one year after you, considering your screen name), but even so, there seem to be other factors that suggest that the difference between 1986 and 2000 is greater than the difference between 2000 and 2014. I wish there were a scientific and empirical way to measure pop culture and general culture changes quantitatively over specific periods of time.

No!
Still no!

I acknowledge that possible explanation too (I was born in 1987, so I assume just one year after you, considering your screen name), but even so, there seem to be other factors that suggest that the difference between 1986 and 2000 is greater than the difference between 2000 and 2014. I wish there were a scientific and empirical way to measure pop culture and general culture changes quantitatively over specific periods of time.


I'd say the difference between 2000 and 2014 is just as big as the difference between 1986 and 2000. The music is totally different, people's morals and beliefs are completely different, almost the exact opposite, and none of the clothes that people wore in 2000 is fashionable today. 2000 won't be considered "retro" until about 2019. I was born in late 1995 by the way, so this decade (the entire 2010s) is my generation. My sister is 10 years older so her generation was the 2000s (the entire decade). I'm basically compared her generation, a completed decade, to mine, a decade in the works. And let me say, I'm jealous of my sister.

EDIT: Typo, I meant to say "the difference between 2000 and 2014 is just as big as the difference between 1986 and 2000" not "the difference between 2000 and 2014 is just as big as the difference between 1986 and 2014!"

1986 seems further away from 2000 just because of the lack of the www and small mobile phones. But it is true that a lot changed since 2000 aswell.

Your mom is retro.

Your mom is retro.
How about your dad too?

How about your dad too?


He loves his doo-wop music so I guess I consider him as "retro".

I'd say the difference between 2000 and 2014 is just as big as the difference between 1986 and 2014. The music is totally different, people's morals and beliefs are completely different, almost the exact opposite, and none of the clothes that people wore in 2000 is fashionable today. 2000 won't be considered "cool" in a vintage way until at the earliest 2016/17. I was born in late 1995 by the way, so this decade (the entire 2010s) is my generation. My sister is 10 years older so her generation was the 2000s (the entire decade). I'm basically compared her generation, a completed decade, to mine, a decade in the works. And let me say, I'm jealous of my sister.

That is so true... people are delusional about 2000, it's not even out-dated, it's old. Nobody uses the clothes, technology, fads of 2000 anymore. But I disagree with one thing.. this decade is still your sister's considering MOST artists that are popular now were born around 1985. Very few people who were born after 1995 are dominating the mainstream pop culture today. I was born in 1988 and I consider this decade as the decade of my generation because most of 2010's mainstream pop artists are from gen y. Sorry gen z... your time has not come yet, maybe in the 2020's.  :)

That is so true... people are delusional about 2000, it's not even out-dated, it's old. Nobody uses the clothes, technology, fads of 2000 anymore. But I disagree with one thing.. this decade is still your sister's considering MOST artists that are popular now were born around 1985. Very few people who were born after 1995 are dominating the mainstream pop culture today. I was born in 1988 and I consider this decade as the decade of my generation because most of 2010's mainstream pop artists are from gen y. Sorry gen z... your time has not come yet, maybe in the 2020's.  :)


Actually, yes this is my generation. I turn 20 next year. All of the music, movies, clothes, and television is primarily aimed at people around my age (those born in the 90s), we are the target audience. My sister was the target audience in the 2000s. You, being born in 1988, you were the target audience in the mid 2000s-early 2010s. So only part of this decade is your generation, and now people your age are making music for people my age pretty much to be honest. And I'm not generation Z, I'm a Y and Z cusp. I definitely am not the true generation Y like those born in the 80s are.

Considering how people confuse the year 2000 for the 90s, I would say it's starting to look retro.

Actually, yes this is my generation. I turn 20 next year. All of the music, movies, clothes, and television is primarily aimed at people around my age (those born in the 90s), we are the target audience. My sister was the target audience in the 2000s. You, being born in 1988, you were the target audience in the mid 2000s-early 2010s. So only part of this decade is your generation, and now people your age are making music for people my age pretty much to be honest. And I'm not generation Z, I'm a Y and Z cusp. I definitely am not the true generation Y like those born in the 80s are.


Excuse me? Are you saying that gen y is making music for a bunch of teenagers? Lmao, you wish. Maybe katy perry is but... music has not changed since the late 00's because my generation likes that music a lot and they play it at nightclubs where people my age drink and have fun. You can't even drink legally because you're not 21 years old yet, so sit down. Artists from your generation (Lorde for example) have a different style of music and she's not even into EDM. I don't know why teenagers think that just because their parents give them money they think they move the economy.  I will admit that gen z is starting to take its place when the EDM style of my generation that started in 2008 disappears and gen z artirts start replacing gen y. And movies and television shows have not changed since 2010, so I don't understand why you're saying those are aimed at people of your age while in reality they are not. I don't consider the 00's as my decade because I was too young to do anything like drinking so your point is not valid again. Lol just give the kids a bunch of new clothes and they think they own the decade.  ;D Whether you like it or not gen y defined this decade and our tastes and needs still prevail.

By the way, here's an article talking about my generation which shows that companies are still concerned about our demographic and I haven't read an article about gen z yet lol.  ;D  http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/03/07/millennials-in-adulthood/

Excuse me? Are you saying that gen y is making music for a bunch of teenagers? Lmao, you wish. Maybe katy perry is but... music has not changed since the late 00's because my generation likes that music a lot and they play it at nightclubs where people my age drink and have fun. You can't even drink legally because you're not 21 years old yet, so sit down. Artists from your generation (Lorde for example) have a different style of music and she's not even into EDM. I don't know why teenagers think that just because their parents give them money they think they move the economy.  I will admit that gen z is starting to take its place when the EDM style of my generation that started in 2008 disappears and gen z artirts start replacing gen y. And movies and television shows have not changed since 2010, so I don't understand why you're saying those are aimed at people of your age while in reality they are not. I don't consider the 00's as my decade because I was too young to do anything like drinking so your point is not valid again. Lol just give the kids a bunch of new clothes and they think they own the decade.  ;D Whether you like it or not gen y defined this decade and our tastes and needs still prevail.

By the way, here's an article talking about my generation which shows that companies are still concerned about our demographic and I haven't read an article about gen z yet lol.  ;D  http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/03/07/millennials-in-adulthood/


You're 25.  You really shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age.

So YOU have a seat.

Have several!

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You're 25.  You really shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age.

So YOU have a seat.

Have several!

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You're 25.  You really shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age.

So YOU have a seat.

Have several!

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No thanks, I don't need a seat from an old lady, oops I shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age. Guess I forgot it.  ;D Stay pressed.

No thanks, I don't need a seat from an old lady, oops I shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age. Guess I forgot it.  ;D Stay pressed.


Sit on this.

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No thanks, I don't need a seat from an old lady, oops I shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age. Guess I forgot it.  ;D Stay pressed.


I like you.  I think I'm going to make you my new board bitch.

Considering how people confuse the year 2000 for the 90s, I would say it's starting to look retro.


I don't think so.

You're 25.  You really shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age.

So YOU have a seat.

Have several!

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;D

Sit on this.

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you sit on it first.

No, 2000 is not retro.

Excuse me? Are you saying that gen y is making music for a bunch of teenagers? Lmao, you wish. Maybe katy perry is but... music has not changed since the late 00's because my generation likes that music a lot and they play it at nightclubs where people my age drink and have fun. You can't even drink legally because you're not 21 years old yet, so sit down. Artists from your generation (Lorde for example) have a different style of music and she's not even into EDM. I don't know why teenagers think that just because their parents give them money they think they move the economy.  I will admit that gen z is starting to take its place when the EDM style of my generation that started in 2008 disappears and gen z artirts start replacing gen y. And movies and television shows have not changed since 2010, so I don't understand why you're saying those are aimed at people of your age while in reality they are not. I don't consider the 00's as my decade because I was too young to do anything like drinking so your point is not valid again. Lol just give the kids a bunch of new clothes and they think they own the decade.  ;D Whether you like it or not gen y defined this decade and our tastes and needs still prevail.

By the way, here's an article talking about my generation which shows that companies are still concerned about our demographic and I haven't read an article about gen z yet lol.  ;D  http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/03/07/millennials-in-adulthood/


Dude, you're taking my comment way out of context. You were born in the late 80s, so this IS part of your generation, from a consumer and producer standpoint. I wasn't saying anything about people your age no longer mattering. My sister was born in the mid 80s, now SHE and her peers are the 2000s generation. She's the one who liked Christina Aguilera and Beyonce, she liked Usher, she liked R&B and hip hop, she liked pop. She was the target audience in the late 90s and the entirety of the 2000s. Now, you're not limited to what was around in your teenage years and early to mid 20s, but generally you are the target audience at some point. But you can like whatever decade you want. Now with my sister, she isn't the target audience anymore. Her generation is over. She doesn't even like the music that's on the radio now. And I HATE Lorde. Her music is so anticlimactic.

No thanks, I don't need a seat from an old lady, oops I shouldn't be disparaging anyone about their age. Guess I forgot it.  ;D Stay pressed.


Flaming is not acceptable behavior at any age.

You haven't even made 100 posts yet and are already trolling -- grow up!

Excuse me? Are you saying that gen y is making music for a bunch of teenagers? Lmao, you wish. Maybe katy perry is but... music has not changed since the late 00's because my generation likes that music a lot and they play it at nightclubs where people my age drink and have fun. You can't even drink legally because you're not 21 years old yet, so sit down. Artists from your generation (Lorde for example) have a different style of music and she's not even into EDM. I don't know why teenagers think that just because their parents give them money they think they move the economy.  I will admit that gen z is starting to take its place when the EDM style of my generation that started in 2008 disappears and gen z artirts start replacing gen y. And movies and television shows have not changed since 2010, so I don't understand why you're saying those are aimed at people of your age while in reality they are not. I don't consider the 00's as my decade because I was too young to do anything like drinking so your point is not valid again. Lol just give the kids a bunch of new clothes and they think they own the decade.  ;D Whether you like it or not gen y defined this decade and our tastes and needs still prevail.

By the way, here's an article talking about my generation which shows that companies are still concerned about our demographic and I haven't read an article about gen z yet lol.  ;D  http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/03/07/millennials-in-adulthood/


I was born in 87 and most people I know either dislike or don't keep up with today's pop culture.  Musician age =/= target audience age.  The Baby Boomer generation is heavily associated with the 60s even though the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, and Janis Joplin aren't Baby Boomers.  Now Eminem is still releasing music, but I doubt very many 41 year-olds (his age) are listening to it.  The target audience of mainstream music is usually teens/early 20-somethings.

Excuse me? Are you saying that gen y is making music for a bunch of teenagers? Lmao, you wish. Maybe katy perry is but... music has not changed since the late 00's because my generation likes that music a lot and they play it at nightclubs where people my age drink and have fun. You can't even drink legally because you're not 21 years old yet, so sit down. Artists from your generation (Lorde for example) have a different style of music and she's not even into EDM. I don't know why teenagers think that just because their parents give them money they think they move the economy.  I will admit that gen z is starting to take its place when the EDM style of my generation that started in 2008 disappears and gen z artirts start replacing gen y. And movies and television shows have not changed since 2010, so I don't understand why you're saying those are aimed at people of your age while in reality they are not. I don't consider the 00's as my decade because I was too young to do anything like drinking so your point is not valid again. Lol just give the kids a bunch of new clothes and they think they own the decade.  ;D Whether you like it or not gen y defined this decade and our tastes and needs still prevail.

By the way, here's an article talking about my generation which shows that companies are still concerned about our demographic and I haven't read an article about gen z yet lol.  ;D  http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/03/07/millennials-in-adulthood/


I think what Visor765 meant was that his age bracket(people born in the '90s) are the target demographic for youth culture, they are becoming the consumers of pop culture. People born in the '80s are becoming the main producers of this youth centered pop culture, for instance in the '80s the main producers of pop culture was still the Baby Boomers but a lot of this culture was targeted at people born in the '60s(then in their teens/early 20s mostly), there was still a lot of stuff targeted at older folks 25+, that's what they call "adult contemporary".

That is so true... people are delusional about 2000, it's not even out-dated, it's old. Nobody uses the clothes, technology, fads of 2000 anymore. But I disagree with one thing.. this decade is still your sister's considering MOST artists that are popular now were born around 1985. Very few people who were born after 1995 are dominating the mainstream pop culture today. I was born in 1988 and I consider this decade as the decade of my generation because most of 2010's mainstream pop artists are from gen y. Sorry gen z... your time has not come yet, maybe in the 2020's.  :)

Not counting the fads, you could wear clothes you wore back then and still not look out of place now. Fashion isn't a HUGE difference. Technology is definately evolved, and seems to do so more rapidly. I was born in the mid eighties and grew up in a 90's childhood and early 00's teenage years. Someone born in the late eighties would have left high school in the late 2000's. Part of the age of still being marketed to with that pop culture would have been the next decade, the first couple years anyway. I don't like the music put out now because it doesn't sound familiar like what I used to listen to, there is a difference in the style. Not as much with the rock and metal, some of that I hear I do like.

Not counting the fads, you could wear clothes you wore back then and still not look out of place now. Fashion isn't a HUGE difference. Technology is definately evolved, and seems to do so more rapidly. I was born in the mid eighties and grew up in a 90's childhood and early 00's teenage years. Someone born in the late eighties would have left high school in the late 2000's. Part of the age of still being marketed to with that pop culture would have been the next decade, the first couple years anyway. I don't like the music put out now because it doesn't sound familiar like what I used to listen to, there is a difference in the style. Not as much with the rock and metal, some of that I hear I do like.


Actually, I've looked at the clothes, and yes, there is a massive difference. Now, clothes are all grungy, with dimmer colors, flat shoes, tight pants, facial hair, outrageous haircuts, it's like 1994 all over again. Whereas in 2000, everything was the exact opposite, tight shirts, loose pants, glossy & pretty designs, glitter, chunky sneakers, no facial hair at all, conservative haircuts (long and straight for girls, short and spiky for guys), people highlighted their hair, it was all very meticulous. I feel like people THINK they could still wear their clothes from the 2000s and still look normal, but if they were to actually do so, they would look ridiculous. 2000 is not retro, we'll have to wait until 2020 for that time to come.

Actually, I've looked at the clothes, and yes, there is a massive difference. Now, clothes are all grungy, with dimmer colors, flat shoes, tight pants, facial hair, outrageous haircuts, it's like 1994 all over again. Whereas in 2000, everything was the exact opposite, tight shirts, loose pants, glossy & pretty designs, glitter, chunky sneakers, no facial hair at all, conservative haircuts (long and straight for girls, short and spiky for guys), people highlighted their hair, it was all very meticulous. I feel like people THINK they could still wear their clothes from the 2000s and still look normal, but if they were to actually do so, they would look ridiculous. 2000 is not retro, we'll have to wait until 2020 for that time to come.

Dimmer colors? Colors are actually very bright. Brightly colored skinny jeans are everywhere. I think hair is more natural these days (even if longer on guys) instead of spiked and bleached. The beards are a bit much though. That's not the only fashion that's in stores however. Plenty of jeans still look the same as last decade. Flared or bootcut without wild colors or too decorative. There are plenty of tops that aren't loose. You can still buy sneakers that come in white or black or grey. The fads are what would be out of place, not the rest.

Excuse me? Are you saying that gen y is making music for a bunch of teenagers? Lmao, you wish. Maybe katy perry is but... music has not changed since the late 00's because my generation likes that music a lot and they play it at nightclubs where people my age drink and have fun. You can't even drink legally because you're not 21 years old yet, so sit down. Artists from your generation (Lorde for example) have a different style of music and she's not even into EDM. I don't know why teenagers think that just because their parents give them money they think they move the economy.  I will admit that gen z is starting to take its place when the EDM style of my generation that started in 2008 disappears and gen z artirts start replacing gen y. And movies and television shows have not changed since 2010, so I don't understand why you're saying those are aimed at people of your age while in reality they are not. I don't consider the 00's as my decade because I was too young to do anything like drinking so your point is not valid again. Lol just give the kids a bunch of new clothes and they think they own the decade.  ;D Whether you like it or not gen y defined this decade and our tastes and needs still prevail.

By the way, here's an article talking about my generation which shows that companies are still concerned about our demographic and I haven't read an article about gen z yet lol.  ;D  http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2014/03/07/millennials-in-adulthood/


Some people drink in their teens and not everyone is a big clubber. Teens go to clubs as early as 16 anyways. I was born in later 86 and I know almost none of the songs on the 2014 charts. I don't really think it's my generation.

Dimmer colors? Colors are actually very bright. Brightly colored skinny jeans are everywhere. I think hair is more natural these days (even if longer on guys) instead of spiked and bleached. The beards are a bit much though. That's not the only fashion that's in stores however. Plenty of jeans still look the same as last decade. Flared or bootcut without wild colors or too decorative. There are plenty of tops that aren't loose. You can still buy sneakers that come in white or black or grey. The fads are what would be out of place, not the rest.


Okay, I'll give you most of these, but I've seen some clothes from the early 2000s on eBay and I've looked at pictures of my older sister from that era. She was in high school then. A pair of jeans from the year 2000 have a very dated wash with little to pretty much no fading. It was dark wash, medium wash, black, grayish, or white (at least that's all I saw...) and the jeans were mid-rise (they only went about 1-2 inches below the belly button). Then 2001 happened. The jeans from that year and onwards had rips, whiskers, fades, surfer washes, super low rises, and lighter jeans. Those designs from that year look similar to today, with the exception of the ultra low rise jean and lace-up fly which nobody sells or makes anymore, and the low rise is on decline. I think it's because the techniques and styles that they used from 2001 onwards are still used today, therefore, a pair of jeans from 2014 could have a similar design as a pair from 2001, just with a higher rise, and include skinny jeans. Yes, they still sell bootcuts and flares, and they're available to anyone who wants to buy them, but my peers just don't favor them right now. Maybe in a few years. Also, what were the fads from 2000? Was neckties as belts one of them (lol)?

Okay, I'll give you most of these, but I've seen some clothes from the early 2000s on eBay and I've looked at pictures of my older sister from that era. She was in high school then. A pair of jeans from the year 2000 have a very dated wash with little to pretty much no fading. It was dark wash, medium wash, black, grayish, or white (at least that's all I saw...) and the jeans were mid-rise (they only went about 1-2 inches below the belly button). Then 2001 happened. The jeans from that year and onwards had rips, whiskers, fades, surfer washes, super low rises, and lighter jeans. Those designs from that year look similar to today, with the exception of the ultra low rise jean and lace-up fly which nobody sells or makes anymore, and the low rise is on decline. I think it's because the techniques and styles that they used from 2001 onwards are still used today, therefore, a pair of jeans from 2014 could have a similar design as a pair from 2001, just with a higher rise, and include skinny jeans. Yes, they still sell bootcuts and flares, and they're available to anyone who wants to buy them, but my peers just don't favor them right now. Maybe in a few years. Also, what were the fads from 2000? Was neckties as belts one of them (lol)?

Mid rise jeans are back IN though now.  :) or  :( as they aren't comfortable. I remember owning jeans that had some fading to them, though the style was more plain. I do remember lace up jeans. I had a pair that had laces on the legs. Flared jeans were flared more drastically than now, but plenty of people still wear them. Skinny and straight leg is more of a teen fashion now, but not the preferred choice for people well into their 20's from what I see. I don't remember neckties as belts (fashion faux pas!) but I remember them as an accessory like scarves are worn now, and they don't look right on just ANY shirt.  ::)

Actually, I've looked at the clothes, and yes, there is a massive difference. Now, clothes are all grungy, with dimmer colors, flat shoes, tight pants, facial hair, outrageous haircuts, it's like 1994 all over again. Whereas in 2000, everything was the exact opposite, tight shirts, loose pants, glossy & pretty designs, glitter, chunky sneakers, no facial hair at all, conservative haircuts (long and straight for girls, short and spiky for guys), people highlighted their hair, it was all very meticulous. I feel like people THINK they could still wear their clothes from the 2000s and still look normal, but if they were to actually do so, they would look ridiculous. 2000 is not retro, we'll have to wait until 2020 for that time to come.


I agree with most of that. 2000 was definitely more 'clean cut' than today. The 'preppy' look was really big back then. It also seems like subcultures were more distinct (preppy, urban, skater, etc.) whereas now everything seems blended together. A couple things I disagree with though - sneakers are definitely more clunky now. The 80s style sneaker revival didn't start until around the mid/late 00s. I don't remember anyone wearing big clunky high tops back in 2000. And I think shirts are tighter now (at least on average). The under armor/stretchy material shirts that are everywhere now didn't even exist back then.

Having said that, I don't think the fashion was that different, mainly because everything now is basically re-gurgitated fashion from the last 30 or so years.

I agree with most of that. 2000 was definitely more 'clean cut' than today. The 'preppy' look was really big back then. It also seems like subcultures were more distinct (preppy, urban, skater, etc.) whereas now everything seems blended together. A couple things I disagree with though - sneakers are definitely more clunky now. The 80s style sneaker revival didn't start until around the mid/late 00s. I don't remember anyone wearing big clunky high tops back in 2000. And I think shirts are tighter now (at least on average). The under armor/stretchy material shirts that are everywhere now didn't even exist back then.

Having said that, I don't think the fashion was that different, mainly because everything now is basically re-gurgitated fashion from the last 30 or so years.

Not being in high school anymore or around many teenagers, I don't even know what they call the subcultures of that age now. At my school it was prep, skater, or punk. We didn't really have goths, maybe only two ever were goths. Preppy was the dominant fashion at my school and all the brand that went with it. You had to have t-shirts and sweatshirts that let everyone know where it came from too.  ::) T-shirts weren't overly tight, unless you bought it that way, but these days they don't even touch the top of your pants! Boys wear skinny jeans too now, and even some find a way to sag them and look awful!  >:( In the 2000s not every pair of jeans were wide leg, and most boys didn't wear that kind. Just the normal style...while displaying their underwear.

Not being in high school anymore or around many teenagers, I don't even know what they call the subcultures of that age now. At my school it was prep, skater, or punk. We didn't really have goths, maybe only two ever were goths. Preppy was the dominant fashion at my school and all the brand that went with it. You had to have t-shirts and sweatshirts that let everyone know where it came from too.  ::) T-shirts weren't overly tight, unless you bought it that way, but these days they don't even touch the top of your pants! Boys wear skinny jeans too now, and even some find a way to sag them and look awful!  >:( In the 2000s not every pair of jeans were wide leg, and most boys didn't wear that kind. Just the normal style...while displaying their underwear.


Yea, I'm just going based off of what I see out in public and on tv/online. Today's 'teen culture' seems like a blend of styles from the past with a couple new things thrown in. I'm sure different subcultures still exist, but they're not as pronounced. Current poplular music seems to reflect this (basically a blend of pop/rap/dance, with rock/alternative as an outlier).

And I agree about the name brand thing. Thrift stores were definitely NOT cool in the early 00s.

Yea, I'm just going based off of what I see out in public and on tv/online. Today's 'teen culture' seems like a blend of styles from the past with a couple new things thrown in. I'm sure different subcultures still exist, but they're not as pronounced. Current poplular music seems to reflect this (basically a blend of pop/rap/dance, with rock/alternative as an outlier).

And I agree about the name brand thing. Thrift stores were definitely NOT cool in the early 00s.

Thirft Stores? Even Wal-Mart was a no-no to shop at back then! It was a very stuck up decade. I know there are still preps and emo kids, I've worked with some, but I just don't know for sure what's out there now.

It is retro. Everything was less tech. Remember, Windows 98 was the most used OS back then. Don't get me wrong, I like tech (especially smartphones) but I miss that time as we were still not that dependent on it. But I guess I mostly miss my personal life in the 90's and early 00's. Flared jeans were big for girls around 1999-2000 (I know this because I liked the 70's even back then and I knew from movies and parents that in the 70's flared pants were in).

It is retro. Everything was less tech. Remember, Windows 98 was the most used OS back then. Don't get me wrong, I like tech (especially smartphones) but I miss that time as we were still not that dependent on it. But I guess I mostly miss my personal life in the 90's and early 00's. Flared jeans were big for girls around 1999-2000 (I know this because I liked the 70's even back then and I knew from movies and parents that in the 70's flared pants were in).

The new styles of websites feel so much more complicated and I'm the type who thinks simpler is better. I like my smart phone too, but there was something better about sending emails vs texting. We had a Windows 98 system too and it took a little while to do things. My personal life in the 2000s was of course more fun because responsibility was just go to school and that was that. Flared jeans were big most of that decade, not just the early part. Now if you mean wide leg, that would be a late 90s carry over.

and I remember when cell phones were smaller.

Remember, Windows 98 was the most used OS back then. Don't get me wrong, I like tech (especially smartphones) but I miss that time as we were still not that dependent on it.


Life was not dependent on technology in 2000? I believe you haven't really lived 2000, right? Everything was about technology in the early 00s and late 90s.

By the way... it was not even uncommon to have Windows 95 in 2000. I remember that this was the operating system we had in our computer lab at school, ca. 8th grade.

Life was not dependent on technology in 2000? I believe you haven't really lived 2000, right? Everything was about technology in the early 00s and late 90s.

By the way... it was not even uncommon to have Windows 95 in 2000. I remember that this was the operating system we had in our computer lab at school, ca. 8th grade.


I remember Windows 2000 and the sound of the old modem when you were trying to get on the computer.

and I remember when cell phones were smaller.

They were thicker, but shorter. Blackberry used to be the best, and you had to navigate it with a ball, not your finger like smart phones now.

No, 2000 is not retro.
Retro Is most often used as adjective, and often simply means “old fashioned” or old (functioning very much like the terms “timeless” or “classic”). It has also been associated with modernism in the immediate post war years, encompassing an aesthetic that ranges from tail fins on Cadillacs to ranch houses. Sometimes, it can also suggest an entire outlook on life (describing especially forms of social conservatism like home schooling or the embrace of traditional gender roles). “Retro” can also be applied to forms of technological obsolescence (including, for instance, manual typewriters, cash registers, bulky hand-held cellphones, etc.) and also the resurrection of old computer games and the equipment on which they are played. But most commonly “retro” is used to describe objects and attitudes from the recent past that no longer seem “modern.” It suggests a fundamental shift in the way we relate to the past. Different from more traditional forms of revivalism, “retro” suggests a half ironic, half longing consideration of the recent past.; it has been called an “unsentimental nostalgia,” recalling “modern” forms that are no longer current.  Therefore no, as 2000 is a hair's breadth away!

It is retro. Everything was less tech. Remember, Windows 98 was the most used OS back then. Don't get me wrong, I like tech (especially smartphones) but I miss that time as we were still not that dependent on it. But I guess I mostly miss my personal life in the 90's and early 00's. Flared jeans were big for girls around 1999-2000 (I know this because I liked the 70's even back then and I knew from movies and parents that in the 70's flared pants were in).
Girls wore lots of 70s inspired fashions in the early 2000s, such as hair braids, crop tops, platform shoes, bright patterns, etc.

Girls wore lots of 70s inspired fashions in the early 2000s, such as hair braids, crop tops, platform shoes, bright patterns, etc.

The platform shoes were more a late 90's thing and definately out by 2000.

Would 1986 become retro in 2000, and become double retro in 2014, discounting February?

Therefore no, as 2000 is a hair's breadth away!


It does feel that way.

I checked again and the 2000's look more retro today that 2 months ago. How is that even posible?  :D LMAO  ;D

I checked again and the 2000's look more retro today that 2 months ago. How is that even possible?  :D LMAO  ;D



2000 started almost 15 years ago.

1986 seems further away from 2000 just because of the lack of the www and small mobile phones. But it is true that a lot changed since 2000 aswell.
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Yeah, that's kind of true. 3-4 hours however only, if you use it very intensively.

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Yeah, that's kind of true. 3-4 hours however only, if you use it very intensively.
Many a time I have cursed autocorrect!

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You posted that 2 hours ago. Is that retro? How many zeitgeist pinnacles have we reached since you posted it?

You posted that 2 hours ago. Is that retro? How many zeitgeist pinnacles have we reached since you posted it?
Taking into account of the frets and fades in labyrinthine knots and twentifth-century primitivism?

Taking into account of the frets and fades in labyrinthine knots and twentifth-century primitivism?


What the heeeeeelll?  :o

What the heeeeeelll?  :o
It was the eccentric Italian philosopher, historian and jurist Giambattista Vico (1688–1744) was the first to argue that primitive man was closer to the sources of poetry and artistic inspiration than "civilized" or modern man. Vico was writing in the context of the celebrated contemporary debate, known as the great Quarrel of the Ancients and the Moderns, over which was better, the classic poetry of Homer and the Bible or modern vernacular literature.

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cell phones looked smaller back then.

cell phones looked smaller back then.
Heavier?

Okay, I'll give you most of these, but I've seen some clothes from the early 2000s on eBay and I've looked at pictures of my older sister from that era. She was in high school then. A pair of jeans from the year 2000 have a very dated wash with little to pretty much no fading. It was dark wash, medium wash, black, grayish, or white (at least that's all I saw...) and the jeans were mid-rise (they only went about 1-2 inches below the belly button). Then 2001 happened. The jeans from that year and onwards had rips, whiskers, fades, surfer washes, super low rises, and lighter jeans. Those designs from that year look similar to today, with the exception of the ultra low rise jean and lace-up fly which nobody sells or makes anymore, and the low rise is on decline. I think it's because the techniques and styles that they used from 2001 onwards are still used today, therefore, a pair of jeans from 2014 could have a similar design as a pair from 2001, just with a higher rise, and include skinny jeans. Yes, they still sell bootcuts and flares, and they're available to anyone who wants to buy them, but my peers just don't favor them right now. Maybe in a few years. Also, what were the fads from 2000? Was neckties as belts one of them (lol)?
“Meaning and morality of One's life come from within oneself. Healthy, strong individuals seek self expansion by experimenting and by living dangerously. Life consists of an infinite number of possibilities and the healthy person explores as many of them as posible. Religions that teach pity, self-contempt, humility, self-restraint and guilt are incorrect. The good life is ever changing, challenging, devoid of regret, intense, creative and risky.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Heavier?


some of them you could put in your pocket.

some of them you could put in your pocket.
If the pocket is big enough?

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/zackmorrisphone-10128.jpg

If the pocket is big enough?

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/zackmorrisphone-10128.jpg


they call that the brick phone.

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http://stephensinternetmarketing.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/motorola-3.jpg

they call that the brick phone.

Now something that big would just be inconvenient! I do remember when they had antennas though, and green screens.

Post count build-up fest.

http://stephensinternetmarketing.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/motorola-3.jpg

Now something that big would just be inconvenient! I do remember when they had antennas though, and green screens.
The first type of mobile phone I had was similar to the one third from the right.

http://stephensinternetmarketing.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/motorola-3.jpg


imagine walking down the street today talking into your brick phone?  ;D

Now something that big would just be inconvenient! I do remember when they had antennas though, and green screens.


just stick into your pocket.

just stick into your pocket.
If the pocket is big enough?

If the pocket is big enough?


or just stick it in your bookbag.

If the pocket is big enough?

I mean the kind from the early 2000's, coat pockets sure. People tended to clip them to their pants though.

I mean the kind from the early 2000's, coat pockets sure. People tended to clip them to their pants though.
http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B1055441501/Universal-Clip.jpg

I mean the kind from the early 2000's, coat pockets sure. People tended to clip them to their pants though.


people still do that sometimes to make themselves look cool.

http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B1055441501/Universal-Clip.jpg


a bit too big.

http://p.globalsources.com/IMAGES/PDT/B1055441501/Universal-Clip.jpg

Kind of like that, only the cases were a soft plastic, holding the entire phone, and you had to open the whole deal, take your phone out, and then turn it on because bottons were next to impossible to press inside it!

a bit too big.
Only the picture is big

You posted that 2 hours ago. Is that retro? How many zeitgeist pinnacles have we reached since you posted it?
Have we reached another zeitgeist pinnacle, because zeitgeist are so used to the deprived, neurotic, twisted world where people are trying to screw each other over as fast as possible for their own self-interest?

2000 is not retro and I think that's pretty weird, in 1974 1960 was absolutely ancient, heck 1962 is only 11 years from the year American Graffiti was released. 

In the movie Final Destination 5 it seems the story takes place in the present(circa 2011) but it turns out it was set in the year 2000.


I know the hairstyles and clothes are inaccurate. No one was wearing skinny jeans or converse or flannel in 2000. The first Final Destination movie is an accurate depiction of what people wore in the year 2000.

Mid rise jeans are back IN though now.  :) or  :( as they aren't comfortable. I remember owning jeans that had some fading to them, though the style was more plain. I do remember lace up jeans. I had a pair that had laces on the legs. Flared jeans were flared more drastically than now, but plenty of people still wear them. Skinny and straight leg is more of a teen fashion now, but not the preferred choice for people well into their 20's from what I see. I don't remember neckties as belts (fashion faux pas!) but I remember them as an accessory like scarves are worn now, and they don't look right on just ANY shirt.  ::)


Also in response to af2010:
I agree with most of that. 2000 was definitely more 'clean cut' than today. The 'preppy' look was really big back then. It also seems like subcultures were more distinct (preppy, urban, skater, etc.) whereas now everything seems blended together. A couple things I disagree with though - sneakers are definitely more clunky now. The 80s style sneaker revival didn't start until around the mid/late 00s. I don't remember anyone wearing big clunky high tops back in 2000. And I think shirts are tighter now (at least on average). The under armor/stretchy material shirts that are everywhere now didn't even exist back then.

Having said that, I don't think the fashion was that different, mainly because everything now is basically re-gurgitated fashion from the last 30 or so years.

In response to both of your comments, I have a few things to reply to.

With Katana: Since you were born in '85, I really wonder if it was your generation that made skinny jeans popular. Sure, you may have not decided to stick with them, but perhaps maybe your generation were the people that made them popular. They became popular in 2006, introduced in 2005. You would have been in your VERY early 20s, making you and your peers the perfect age to experiment with new trends and different clothes and looks. It makes sense to me. If not, then it was probably the people born in the late 80s/early 90s that made them popular as they would have been in high school at this time (and it's probably more likely that they were). I'd say my peers were the ones that were responsible for the peak of skinny jeans.

With af: I just learned something new - fashion goes in 20 year cycles. So therefore, anything from 1994 and earlier is considered "retro" and is fashionable. Primarily the 90s and early 70s. So everything from the last 30 years doesn't really make sense. Everything from 1994 and earlier yes, but 2000s and second half of 90s fashion, no.

High top sneakers are always in style. It's just the industry chooses to capitalize on them at certain times. And Under Armour has been around since 1996, stretchy lycra shirts have been around since the 80s (in response to the polyester popular in the 70s/early 80s). Men's shirts now are somewhat tighter on average, whereas they wore baggier shirts in 2000. Girl's shirts were definitely tighter back in 2000 though.

It now feels weird that in 2000, the 80s were only 11 years behind us. Because I wasn't born until 1991, the 80s seemed very distant in 2000. But 2003 is still quite fresh in my memory, even though it was half my lifetime ago!

Yes, I agree. The 80s were still pretty close in 2000 if you look at the calender.

Plus: 2000 is now as old as May 1985 was at the beginning of 2000. I can't believe that the year is that old already - especially since 1985 looked really old back in 2000.

It now feels weird that in 2000, the 80s were only 11 years behind us. Because I wasn't born until 1991, the 80s seemed very distant in 2000. But 2003 is still quite fresh in my memory, even though it was half my lifetime ago!


On the other hand, back in 2004, felt a lot less distant to 1997/1998 than I feel the distance from 2007/2008 now in 2014.

On the other hand, back in 2004, felt a lot less distant to 1997/1998 than I feel the distance from 2007/2008 now in 2014.


Hmm, personally, this was not the case with me. Being 10-12 felt very distant when I was like 18; however 21-22 does not feel too distant nowadays.

I also feel much more connected to the culture of 2007/08 than I did to the late 90s culture in 2004.

Hmm, personally, this was not the case with me. Being 10-12 felt very distant when I was like 18; however 21-22 does not feel too distant nowadays.

I also feel much more connected to the culture of 2007/08 than I did to the late 90s culture in 2004.


Same here.

It's quite normal though.  Our perception of time depends greatly on the amount of new life experiences we have.  If we get into a mundane routune, as many tend to do in their twenties, time really starts to fly and there isn't much to show for it.  Most people will get married at some point in their twenties but not everyone will.  In our teens, so much changes and we have so many new life experiences that just a few years can seem like an eternity, and 18 is nothing like 12.   

Also in response to af2010:
In response to both of your comments, I have a few things to reply to.

With Katana: Since you were born in '85, I really wonder if it was your generation that made skinny jeans popular. Sure, you may have not decided to stick with them, but perhaps maybe your generation were the people that made them popular. They became popular in 2006, introduced in 2005. You would have been in your VERY early 20s, making you and your peers the perfect age to experiment with new trends and different clothes and looks. It makes sense to me. If not, then it was probably the people born in the late 80s/early 90s that made them popular as they would have been in high school at this time (and it's probably more likely that they were). I'd say my peers were the ones that were responsible for the peak of skinny jeans.

With af: I just learned something new - fashion goes in 20 year cycles. So therefore, anything from 1994 and earlier is considered "retro" and is fashionable. Primarily the 90s and early 70s. So everything from the last 30 years doesn't really make sense. Everything from 1994 and earlier yes, but 2000s and second half of 90s fashion, no.

High top sneakers are always in style. It's just the industry chooses to capitalize on them at certain times. And Under Armour has been around since 1996, stretchy lycra shirts have been around since the 80s (in response to the polyester popular in the 70s/early 80s). Men's shirts now are somewhat tighter on average, whereas they wore baggier shirts in 2000. Girl's shirts were definitely tighter back in 2000 though.

I never saw anyone my age in '06 or '08 for that matter pick up the trend. They all stuck to old favorites back then as far as I knew. I didn't buy a pair until last year, of jeggings. It depends where you live, but around here people my age aren't fashion pioneers. New trends tend to be picked up by teenagers sooner. Slouchy fashions were more what was worn in the late 2000's by younger women and multi colored plaid South Pole sweatshirts were in for the teens and early 20's crowd.

I remember in the early '00s, wide-leg jeans were nearing the end of their popularity.  Skinny jeans came into fashion first in the LGBT community and then with the emo crowd.  By the late '00s everyone was wearing them with the exception of the country/redneck crowd.  Nowadays its hard to buy mens jeans at a fashionable store that are loose fit.  Skinny jeans are pretty much the standard.

I remember in the early '00s, wide-leg jeans were nearing the end of their popularity.  Skinny jeans came into fashion first in the LGBT community and then with the emo crowd.  By the late '00s everyone was wearing them with the exception of the country/redneck crowd.  Nowadays its hard to buy mens jeans at a fashionable store that are loose fit.  Skinny jeans are pretty much the standard.

Wide leg was in when I was in the 6th-8th grade and in high school boys wore baggy jeans and sagged them, but they weren't wide leg so much. Girls jeans were ultra flared. Stores now carry bootcut at the most flared, and jeggings at the tightest in women's. Men's pants have become a tighter fit, but I see plenty of options that aren't tight.

I remember in the early '00s, wide-leg jeans were nearing the end of their popularity.  Skinny jeans came into fashion first in the LGBT community and then with the emo crowd.  By the late '00s everyone was wearing them with the exception of the country/redneck crowd.  Nowadays its hard to buy mens jeans at a fashionable store that are loose fit.  Skinny jeans are pretty much the standard.


According to Wikipedia, they became popular in the mid 1990s and continued until the late 2000s. Do you mean they were ending their popularity among white guys? Because it says they were replaced by bootcut and straight leg jeans and pants. That's what I remember seeing everyone wear when I was a kid. Wikipedia also says skinny jeans were introduced in America in 2005 and became popular in 2007.

Fun Fact: Women's skinny jeans back in 2006 were looser than men's skinny jeans of today!

Did a lot of people consider 1985 to be retro in 2000? I think I did. It's probably a combination of the fact that 1985 was before I was born, and the fact that the year begins with '19' rather than '20'. 2000 doesn't seem anywhere near as old to me now as 1985 did in 2000.

Retro? No, but it feels like another lifetime to me. Bearing in mind that I was only 5 then, and 20 this year, so that's a humongous difference.

No, it's more like dated than retro.

When I hear the word "retro" I generally think before 1993.

When I hear the word "retro" I generally think before 1993.


I consider retro 1995 and earlier. I faithfully go by the 20-year cycle.

1996 is when things start to look retro
1997 is not retro but has some retro things
1998 and onward is not retro at all

1996 is when things start to look retro
1997 is not retro but has some retro things
1998 and onward is not retro at all


I'm not sure. 1998 is definitely becoming retro. It was 17 years ago! But if you were to wear clothes from 1996-1998 today, you would stand out and look silly. Any clothes before 2011 are dated today.

Okay, now that I think about it, I'm probably wrong. I'm watching the movie "Baby Boy" which was released in June 2001, meaning it was filmed in 2000 and/or early 2001. The skirts and pants were still high waisted then, almost all of the bottoms were black, block-heeled shoes ruled the roost, and halter tops were ubiquitous then. It was extremely '90s, absolutely screaming it. It wasn't all that different from what was popular in the mid '90s. I've seen movies and television shows that were filmed in 2001 and looked very different.

When I hear the word "retro" I generally think before 1993.


I knew I wasn't the only one.  ;)

Retro, as in Latin for regression?

I'm not sure. 1998 is definitely becoming retro. It was 17 years ago! But if you were to wear clothes from 1996-1998 today, you would stand out and look silly. Any clothes before 2011 are dated today.


1997 + is the internet/dot com era. There was a big change between the feel of 1996 and 1997.

I consider retro 1995 and earlier. I faithfully go by the 20-year cycle.


Why do you do that?

No, it's more like dated than retro.


Agreed. I probably won't see 2000 as retro/old school for another 5+ years or so.

I don't think 2000 will seem retro until around 2025.

I don't think 2000 will seem retro until around 2025.


Right, not for another 10 years.

I don't think 2000 will seem retro until around 2025.


Pop culture goes in 20 year cycles, not 25. Just think of everyone's obsession with the year 1995 today. I distinctly remember 1993 being idolized in 2013 (they even opened a museum about it). I also remember 1985 being referenced a lot in 2005 and hair metal nostalgia was big in the late '00s.

Pop culture goes in 20 year cycles, not 25. Just think of everyone's obsession with the year 1995 today. I distinctly remember 1993 being idolized in 2013 (they even opened a museum about it). I also remember 1985 being referenced a lot in 2005 and hair metal nostalgia was big in the late '00s.


The problem about 2000 is, that it looks still quite modern, unlike 1993. I think it will take longer for the late 90s and 2000s to look "retro"...

The problem about 2000 is, that it looks still quite modern, unlike 1993. I think it will take longer for the late 90s and 2000s to look "retro"...


That's because it's been 15 years. Not 20. A lot can happen in five years, and it does. I remember back in 2010 when people were saying 1995 looks "too modern" to come back. Now look where we are - 1995 is retro! When I go to the stores, I see rugby shirts, ripped jeans, floral pastel tops, tartan skirts, lace dresses, ballet flats, denim jackets, jorts, and gray sweaters. All of those things were fashionable in 1995 (and most of those things were fashionable in the '70s).

Also if you hunt for some really old posts in 2005 on this forum (ye ancient times), people were saying it was too soon to see the early '90s as "retro". Some people were even nostalgic for the first half of the '90s then, but only barely and it was too soon to warrant a revival. Now, and I'm not just talking about on this website, some people are becoming nostalgic for the first half of the 2000s. I don't see the point, and I believe it is way too soon, but I can't stop other people's nostalgia.

I personally think the late '90s are retro right now. For instance, here is a picture of Joshua Jackson from 1997:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbwwn3ZaQG1qfzfhlo1_400.jpg
You could get away with this outfit today. I can, and do, wear outfits like this all the time (with the exception of the shoes). I even get compliments about it.

Here is a picture of Katie Holmes from 1998:
http://www.sonypictures.com/tv/dawsonscreek/assets/images/07bae4326eb6690c000b05f7302a0884ec172586.jpg
A modern girl could get away with this one, especially the top.

Other late '90s outfits that are back in style and could be worn today and be considered fashionable:

Images

a) Sarah Michelle Gellar and Neve Campbell in 1997:
http://files.sarah-michelle-gellar.webnode.cz/200001081-3fff140f92/neve.jpg

b) Alyssa Milano in 1996:
http://www.starer.ru/images/alyssa-milano/eric-roberts-photoshoot-1996/5.jpg

c) Jessica Alba photoshoot in 1996:
http://img001.lazygirls.info/people/jessica_alba/jessica_alba_denim_shoot_1996_1IFs0Mf.sized.jpg

d) The Scream teens in 1996:
http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/70/61/05/2011/10/28/ob_89ddf6_thynt.jpg

e) Victoria Adams and David Beckham in 1997/98 (I think?)
http://marieclaire.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/11116/00003b365/8117_orh640w427/David--Victoria-Beckham-1997.jpg
http://forum.purseblog.com/attachments/celebrity-forums/celebrity-style-threads/1918818d1350784093-celebrity-style-the-90s-victoria-march-1997-699kb121010.jpg

f) Matthew McConaughey 1998
http://pabblogger.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/sdghh.jpg

g) Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, 1997
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1297041/thumbs/o-BEN-AFFLECK-MATT-DAMON-1997-570.jpg?1

a) I'm not sure how closely your hometown/city follows fashion trends, but camel-colored coats are back in style. The pants, the dress, the top, and the boots are cool again too, although not every girl is wearing them. The clothes came back around 2014 or maybe this year. I'm not sure.
b) Halter top, checked pants, block-heel shoes, all of those things are back in style now. At least in the stores that I live nearby.
c) Crop top, black belt, high-waisted jeans (straight leg), chunky black boots, pretty normal stuff that any girl can get away with now.
d) Some things are bad (Randy's shoes!), but most are good. Turtlenecks (finally), short skirts, chunky boots, ribbed sweaters, earthy colors, polos, chino pants, this is all stylish again and they would blend in nicely.
e) David's hairstyle is dated (will that hairstyle ever come back?), but those two outfits of his are impressive. Victoria's looks are on fire! Both of them would have looked outdated as recently as 2013, but something changed in 2014 and now they look totally fashionable.
f) White outfit, with a looser and constructed look. If you're smart about your sizing, purchasing, and tailoring, you could get away with this today and even get praised for it.
g) Black! I love both of these outfits, but I wear things along the lines of Matt Damon's outfit here on a regular basis. I don't get made fun of or anything, so it's acceptable. The monochrome look was really in back in 2014, and still is today.

You did say you think that your home might be behind on pop culture, so try to keep that in mind too. But you're German. Aren't Europeans supposed to be, like, super fashionable or something?

Anyway, I would say the late '90s are retro right now, or at least as far as 1998. 15 years is too short. 16 years can be long enough, but it depends on the timing. 1996 didn't feel retro in 2012, and 1997 didn't feel retro in 2013; However, both of those years and 1998 felt retro to me in 2014.

As in, if you were to wear clothing from 1996-98 in 2014, you wouldn't have looked out of place or outdated. As a matter of fact, you would have gotten a lot of compliments. What do you think? Do you agree with me?

That's because it's been 15 years. Not 20. A lot can happen in five years, and it does. I remember back in 2010 when people were saying 1995 looks "too modern" to come back. Now look where we are - 1995 is retro! When I go to the stores, I see rugby shirts, ripped jeans, floral pastel tops, tartan skirts, lace dresses, ballet flats, denim jackets, jorts, and gray sweaters. All of those things were fashionable in 1995 (and most of those things were fashionable in the '70s).

Also if you hunt for some really old posts in 2005 on this forum (ye ancient times), people were saying it was too soon to see the early '90s as "retro". Some people were even nostalgic for the first half of the '90s then, but only barely and it was too soon to warrant a revival. Now, and I'm not just talking about on this website, some people are becoming nostalgic for the first half of the 2000s. I don't see the point, and I believe it is way too soon, but I can't stop other people's nostalgia.

I second this. During the '00s there were many retro 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s campaigns, never 90s. I never understood why and thought at the time that people just didn't like the 90s as much as I did. Boy was I wrong. Lol.

I know the hairstyles and clothes are inaccurate. No one was wearing skinny jeans or converse or flannel in 2000. The first Final Destination movie is an accurate depiction of what people wore in the year 2000.

Ikr. I guess they don't think people would notice. Same thing goes with The Social Network movie. There are outfits in there I can't imagine people wearing in 2003.

Horrible "dated" is right.
http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-04/enhanced/webdr06/21/12/enhanced-22200-1398097803-26.jpg
Dem baggy clothes.

Not retro but easily old school. To me, a era that ended 10 years ago is old school.

Not retro but easily old school. To me, a era that ended 10 years ago is old school.

No I'd say 20 years or before is old school! 2000 is just dated! 2020 it'll probably be retro!

Not retro but easily old school. To me, a era that ended 10 years ago is old school.



2000 ended 15 years ago.

I consider 1993-2004 in general to be on the cusp of retro.  The lack of social media and YouTube causes the period to seem fairly removed from present day, but it still doesn't have a particularly outdated look or feel like everything before it does. 

I consider 1993-2004 in general to be on the cusp of retro.  The lack of social media and YouTube causes the period to seem fairly removed from present day, but it still doesn't have a particularly outdated look or feel like everything before it does.


That's quite a broad range you've provided. 1993-94 are clearly retro being still part of the grunge era, 16-bit video gaming systems, Seinfeld in the middle of its run, VHS, fashion styles, and before the Internet was mainstream. 1995-98 I definitely agree with the cusp of retro, with 1995-96 in away already there being still part of the core '90s while 1997-98 is just about there given how ridicously dated some of the tech is and being part of the calm '90s geopolitical atmosphere. 1999-2000 are at that "give it a couple more years" phased since nostalgia for early Britney Spears/Christina Aguilera/Survivor/Abrocombe & Fitch/Cargo jeans/Nu metal is still not really upon us, but a few isolated geeks are starting to embrace it. I'm sorry, but 2001-2004 are part of that '00s decade that most people would still like to turn away and forget about and will be at least five years before they are seen as retro cool again.

That's quite a broad range you've provided. 1993-94 are clearly retro being still part of the grunge era, 16-bit video gaming systems, Seinfeld in the middle of its run, VHS, fashion styles, and before the Internet was mainstream. 1995-98 I definitely agree with the cusp of retro, with 1995-96 in away already there being still part of the core '90s while 1997-98 is just about there given how ridicously dated some of the tech is and being part of the calm '90s geopolitical atmosphere. 1999-2000 are at that "give it a couple more years" phased since nostalgia for early Britney Spears/Christina Aguilera/Survivor/Abrocombe & Fitch/Cargo jeans/Nu metal is still not really upon us, but a few isolated geeks are starting to embrace it. I'm sorry, but 2001-2004 are part of that '00s decade that most people would still like to turn away and forget about and will be at least five years before they are seen as retro cool again.


I think we are far enough away from the late 90s into 2000s to be nostalgic for it (I sure am), but its too soon and things haven't changed enough for a revival.  For instance, there is a lot of fashion that was in at that time that you could still get away with today.  I have had the same hairstyle actually since 2000 with the exception of 2007 and 2008 when I had the Bieber swoop.  It isn't like the mid '90s or '80s where if you tried to sport that look today you would draw stares.

To me, anything that's over 5 years old can be nostalgic to me. So the entire 2000s (even though I can only remember 2002 to 2009 from that decade) can be considered nostalgic to me.

To me, anything that's over 5 years old can be nostalgic to me. So the entire 2000s (even though I can only remember 2002 to 2009 from that decade) can be considered nostalgic to me.

only 2002-2009? ???  How old are ya?

only 2002-2009? ???  How old are ya?


Currently, I'm 15 years old (born in December 1999, if you were wondering).

Currently, I'm 15 years old (born in December 1999, if you were wondering).

WOW :o , it's nice seeing younger guys joining the blog! :)

I think the year 2000 is definitely retro. It's pretty much the same as 1998 which is almost 20 years ago. We have tons of things now that didn't exist or only barely saw use in 2000.

I remember the first time I saw a GPS device in 2001. It was a clunky thing that probably weighed 2 pounds and looked like a camcorder.  ;D

WOW :o , it's nice seeing younger guys joining the blog! :)


Well, since I try to find a website where 2000s nostalgia is actually accepted to everyone, I thought I could become a member of this website.

The year 2000 is definitely not retro. The 90' are retro, 2000s (including year 2000) is not.

Well, since I try to find a website where 2000s nostalgia is actually accepted to everyone, I thought I could become a member of this website.


Welcome to the board.  :)

The year 2000 is definitely not retro. The 90' are retro, 2000s (including year 2000) is not.


2000 was pretty much exactly the same as 1999 though.

2000 was pretty much exactly the same as 1999 though.

1999 isn't retro either. 1995 and before is. Those are the years that are retro. (20 years and before).

Well, since I try to find a website where 2000s nostalgia is actually accepted to everyone, I thought I could become a member of this website.

I'd recommend watching out though. The "90s kid/00s hate" nostalgia exists here as well, only with less rose-coloured glasses and more critique than other parts of the internet.

I'd recommend watching out though. The "90s kid/00s hate" nostalgia exists here as well, only with less rose-coloured glasses and more critique than other parts of the internet.


Well, it's not like there's many people who hate the 2000s on this website.