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Subject: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/15/11 at 1:35 pm
I really feel like the end of the Noughties came with the campaign of Barack Obama, beginning circa February 2008. I also think the music started to change too. Kanye came out with "Heartless", which is a very 2010s-sounding song. The fashion changed as well. People started to dress like hipsters en masse.
Gay/lesbian/bi culture also became very mainstream I think in 2008. 2008 was the first year that Lady Gaga began to become famous. Not to mention, it was the first year of the Great Recession. I really think the 2010s began early...
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Shiv on 04/15/11 at 1:44 pm
It happens every decade. The transition to the next decade usually begins in the 8th year of the previous one.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/15/11 at 1:47 pm
It happens every decade. The transition to the next decade usually begins in the 8th year of the previous one.
I would go a step ahead and say 2008 actually felt like the 2010s already. Certainly 2009 did. I mean, is today really any different from 2009?
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 80sfan on 04/15/11 at 2:16 pm
Yeah, I felt it too. I think it was the whole election thing!
2008 felt very different from 2007.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/15/11 at 2:47 pm
Yeah, I felt it too. I think it was the whole election thing!
2008 felt very different from 2007.
Yeah, I agree! 2007 was the last '2001-like' year.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: whistledog on 04/15/11 at 6:28 pm
I wish gay topics ended in 2008 :(
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/15/11 at 7:30 pm
I wish gay topics ended in 2008 :(
this isnt' a gay topic. a gay topic would be like 'Do you like penis?' or 'What is your favorite Pet Shop Boys song?'
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/15/11 at 7:42 pm
this isnt' a gay topic. a gay topic would be like 'Do you like penis?' or 'What is your favorite Pet Shop Boys song?'
Now you're just being silly. ::)
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/15/11 at 8:00 pm
Now you're just being silly. ::)
Well it's true. It's dumb when people call things they dislike 'gay'. Gay is not a bad thing.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: whistledog on 04/15/11 at 8:20 pm
Based on your speculation, the 2000s ended in 2008, so 2009 does not exist?
Not only is it gay, it's super gay with a cape and can leap over tall buildings in a single bound.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: whistledog on 04/15/11 at 8:25 pm
Not only is it gay, it's super gay with a cape and can leap over tall buildings in a single bound.
This makes no sense. This topic makes no sense.
You once ask what Decadeology is. This was once said among these boards ...
Chances are good that if it's a topic with a year in the title, and the main post doesn't make sense, then it's all about decadeology
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: sonikuu on 04/15/11 at 10:41 pm
There was definitely a change in 2008. But was it the start of "2010s culture" as OP says? It's still way too early in the 2010s to make that call. Heck, the dominant culture of the new decade usually doesn't become popular until the second half of the second year of the decade. Granted, those trends are usually set up in the last couple years of the previous decade, but it's still early to tell what late 00s trends will be regarding at "setting up" for 2010s culture and which ones weren't.
Wait until 2012, then we can get a better picture of what's going on.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Henk on 04/16/11 at 2:33 am
You once ask what Decadeology is. This was once said among these boards ...
Yeah, definitely decadeology. Because something changed in 2009 as well. And in 2007. And in 1756. And so on and so on.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/16/11 at 4:08 am
Yeah, definitely decadeology. Because something changed in 2009 as well. And in 2007. And in 1756. And so on and so on.
yeah i suppose. i just felt 2008 was a turning point kind of year. not all years are equal in how much things change.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/16/11 at 5:30 am
What did change in 2008?
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/16/11 at 6:28 am
Well it's true. It's dumb when people call things they dislike 'gay'. Gay is not a bad thing.
To quote Seinfeld: "Not that there's anything wrong with that".
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/16/11 at 6:29 am
What did change in 2008?
I don't know. ::)
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/16/11 at 6:30 am
I don't know. ::)
I was hoping that you could tell me.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/16/11 at 5:21 pm
What did change in 2008?
The steez. ;D
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/16/11 at 7:14 pm
The steez. ;D
The what? ???
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: JTCool on 04/17/11 at 9:46 pm
Based on your speculation, the 2000s ended in 2008, so 2009 does not exist?
Not only is it gay, it's super gay with a cape and can leap over tall buildings in a single bound.
Off-topic, but this is all I have to say to that: http://www.thinkb4youspeak.com/GetInformed/
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: whistledog on 04/17/11 at 9:53 pm
Off-topic, but this is all I have to say to that: http://www.thinkb4youspeak.com/GetInformed/
I have nothing against Gays, but Gay topics I find disturbing. Decadeology is gay
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: JTCool on 04/17/11 at 10:07 pm
I have nothing against Gays, but Gay topics I find disturbing. Decadeology is gay
I wasn't implying that you did, I was just making a point that a lot of people say 'that's gay' without realizing that it implies that gay means stupid. I just don't understand why people can't say oh that's dumb or stupid, why did saying that's gay become so big?
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: whistledog on 04/17/11 at 10:17 pm
I wasn't implying that you did, I was just making a point that a lot of people say 'that's gay' without realizing that it implies that gay means stupid. I just don't understand why people can't say oh that's dumb or stupid, why did saying that's gay become so big?
It's been that way for decades.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: DizzMcMinyard on 04/18/11 at 12:26 am
For some time now, I too have felt that things done changed in 2008. Compare 2007 to today and then 2008 to today.. I'm sure you can see the resemblance from one to another. The auto-tune really took of in 2008, I thought it was an awesome year! The election was crazy and change was most definetley in the air! I think the whole recessionary mood started 2009, but its roots are certainly in late 2007 to 2008. Politically things changed majorly in 2008. Music and Cinema changed too I believe with the Hangover and the Dark Knight, as well as the advent of 3D!
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Henk on 04/18/11 at 5:28 am
Now before Jason gets his hands on this... ::)
For some time now, I too have felt that things done changed in 2008. Compare 2007 to today and then 2008 to today.. I'm sure you can see the resemblance from one to another.
Errm...No. No idea what you're talking about.
The auto-tune really took of in 2008, I thought it was an awesome year!
If ever I saw a contradiction in terms...
The election was crazy and change was most definetley in the air! I think the whole recessionary mood started 2009, but its roots are certainly in late 2007 to 2008. Politically things changed majorly in 2008. Music and Cinema changed too I believe with the Hangover and the Dark Knight, as well as the advent of 3D!
Really guys... things didn't change that much. It's just your PERSPECTIVE of things that changed. (Commonly known as 'growing up', BTW. A slow and sometimes painful process)
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Mat1991 on 04/18/11 at 5:51 am
I don't think as much changed in 2008 as a lot of people here like to think. Many of the fads of 2008 were either in development or already in style in the previous years.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/18/11 at 6:21 am
I wasn't implying that you did, I was just making a point that a lot of people say 'that's gay' without realizing that it implies that gay means stupid. I just don't understand why people can't say oh that's dumb or stupid, why did saying that's gay become so big?
It's become popular with young teens.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/18/11 at 12:36 pm
When did downloading songs/music from the Internet begin?
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 80sfan on 04/18/11 at 2:00 pm
When did downloading songs/music from the Internet begin?
1997 or 1998? ???
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/18/11 at 2:01 pm
1997 or 1998? ???
That early, I am amazed.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 80sfan on 04/18/11 at 2:02 pm
That early, I am amazed.
Just a guess. ;D
Circa. 1998
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/18/11 at 2:03 pm
Just a guess. ;D
Circa. 1998
Oh I see.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Shiv on 04/18/11 at 8:42 pm
1999.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Emman on 04/18/11 at 10:07 pm
I don't think as much changed in 2008 as a lot of people here like to think. Many of the fads of 2008 were either in development or already in style in the previous years.
Well let's see, the US got it's first african-american president, the recession got into full swing by the end of that year, electropop/dance music exploded in popularity and replaced hip-hop/R&B as the dominant mainstream music, emo began to decline, ect. 2008 "was" a turning point in american history(especially in a economic sense), probably even more than 2001(911), I know that changes happen in every year but in a cultural context, some years have had more significant changes. Maybe the thread title should have been phrased more specific, maybe like "there was significant cultural changes in 2008".
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/18/11 at 10:29 pm
Well let's see, the US got it's first african-american president, the recession got into full swing by the end of that year, electropop/dance music exploded in popularity and replaced hip-hop/R&B as the dominant mainstream music, emo began to decline, ect. 2008 "was" a turning point in american history(especially in a economic sense), probably even more than 2001(911), I know that changes happen in every year but in a cultural context, some years have had more significant changes. Maybe the thread title should have been phrased more specific, maybe like "there was significant cultural changes in 2008".
exactly!!!
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/19/11 at 6:37 am
When did downloading songs/music from the Internet begin?
Yeah I would say around that time.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/19/11 at 12:36 pm
Yeah I would say around that time.
Most people would agree that the popular practice of downloading music started in 1997, when the software known as Napster was released. Napster was free software that allowed people to share the contents of their music collections online, and pick and choose what to download from others, in a free communal environment. For the first time, many people began to share songs over the Internet and get their music through the process of downloading, rather than buying CDs. Thus, this can be seen as the start of the music revolution and the time when downloading music started.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/19/11 at 12:44 pm
Most people would agree that the popular practice of downloading music started in 1997, when the software known as Napster was released. Napster was free software that allowed people to share the contents of their music collections online, and pick and choose what to download from others, in a free communal environment. For the first time, many people began to share songs over the Internet and get their music through the process of downloading, rather than buying CDs. Thus, this can be seen as the start of the music revolution and the time when downloading music started.
Of course, due to downloading speeds at that time, it did not threaten music sales like it does now.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 80sfan on 04/19/11 at 1:08 pm
Of course, due to downloading speeds at that time, it did not threaten music sales like it does now.
Well, music was better in 1997/1998 too! ;D
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: tv on 04/19/11 at 2:09 pm
Well one thing is different from 2008 or even early 2010 in that we don't have to hear about "Kate+8" anymore. I think this is a good thing!
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 80sfan on 04/19/11 at 3:46 pm
Well one thing is different from 2008 or even early 2010 in that we don't have to hear about "Kate+8" anymore. I think this is a good thing!
Thank God. ::)
You know what else isn't as popular in 2011 anymore? Paris Hilton.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/19/11 at 4:18 pm
You know what else isn't as popular in 2011 anymore? Paris Hilton.
Yes, though now we have Snooki. ::)
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/19/11 at 7:05 pm
Most people would agree that the popular practice of downloading music started in 1997, when the software known as Napster was released. Napster was free software that allowed people to share the contents of their music collections online, and pick and choose what to download from others, in a free communal environment. For the first time, many people began to share songs over the Internet and get their music through the process of downloading, rather than buying CDs. Thus, this can be seen as the start of the music revolution and the time when downloading music started.
I remember Napster.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/19/11 at 7:06 pm
Yes, though now we have Snooki. ::)
And we're probably gonna her about her for the next few years. ::)
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: batfan2005 on 04/20/11 at 9:55 am
IMO, I felt 2009 was more of a changeful year since that was the year Obama assumed office. Some of the changes started in Late '08, but overall that year fit better with 2005-07, at least pop-culture wise. Even Lady Gaga didn't start getting a lot of airplay until early '09. Economically, 2008 was when the Great Recession began (actually late '07 officially).
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: tv on 04/20/11 at 1:08 pm
Thank God. ::)
You know what else isn't as popular in 2011 anymore? Paris Hilton.
The last year Paris Hilton was revelant was like 2006 anyway. Her popularity was more 2003-2006 anyway. She wasn't even revelant in early-mid 2007 when core 00's culture was still going on.
As I say alot on these boards there was that period that was filled with big obsessions with every celebs every move(2003-2006.) That trend died down somewhere in 2006.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Shiv on 04/20/11 at 10:56 pm
The last year Paris Hilton was revelant was like 2006 anyway. Her popularity was more 2003-2006 anyway. She wasn't even revelant in early-mid 2007 when core 00's culture was still going on.
As I say alot on these boards there was that period that was filled with big obsessions with every celebs every move(2003-2006.) That trend died down somewhere in 2006.
I remember when she put out her album in 2006 8-P luckily it bombed.
I remember still hearing a lot about Paris Hilton in 2007, but little to nothing after that year.
I would also extend the celeb obsession thing into 2007 because of the whole Britney, lindsey lohan, and Amy Winehouse (remember her?) ordeals. You couldn't go a day without hearing something about them in 2007.
Its still going on a little bit (Kim Kardashian?) but toned down compared to the core 00s.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: RG1995 on 04/20/11 at 11:21 pm
I remember when she put out her album in 2006 8-P luckily it bombed.
I remember still hearing a lot about Paris Hilton in 2007, but little to nothing after that year.
I would also extend the celeb obsession thing into 2007 because of the whole Britney, lindsey lohan, and Amy Winehouse (remember her?) ordeals. You couldn't go a day without hearing something about them in 2007.
Its still going on a little bit (Kim Kardashian?) but toned down compared to the core 00s.
Very correct. I forgot how big the "celeb thing" was, especially in the mid-00s.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/20/11 at 11:21 pm
I remember when she put out her album in 2006 8-P luckily it bombed.
I remember still hearing a lot about Paris Hilton in 2007, but little to nothing after that year.
I would also extend the celeb obsession thing into 2007 because of the whole Britney, lindsey lohan, and Amy Winehouse (remember her?) ordeals. You couldn't go a day without hearing something about them in 2007.
Its still going on a little bit (Kim Kardashian?) but toned down compared to the core 00s.
More evidence that 2007 was the last year that really felt like the 2000s! And good riddance!
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: RG1995 on 04/20/11 at 11:55 pm
More evidence that 2007 was the last year that really felt like the 2000s! And good riddance!
Late 00s-Early 10s aren't that great tbh either :(
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Shiv on 04/21/11 at 12:11 am
More evidence that 2007 was the last year that really felt like the 2000s! And good riddance!
It still pretty much feels like the 00s, especially with a lot of the music (ahem Lil Wayne?). What were in right now is basically a toned down version of the 00s. This should continue until some point in 2012 or 2013, when the actual 10s culture begins.
Still waiting for that big 00s backlash. I want to see something akin to what happened to 80s culture in the 90s. The 00s sucked.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/21/11 at 2:25 am
It still pretty much feels like the 00s, especially with a lot of the music (ahem Lil Wayne?). What were in right now is basically a toned down version of the 00s. This should continue until some point in 2012 or 2013, when the actual 10s culture begins.
Still waiting for that big 00s backlash. I want to see something akin to what happened to 80s culture in the 90s. The 00s sucked.
Yeah true, hasn't really been a rejection of the last decade. Though, Fall Out Boy and Ashanti are hardly considered 'cool' anymore...
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/21/11 at 5:52 am
Its still going on a little bit (Kim Kardashian?) but toned down compared to the core 00s.
And she's not on TV as much nowadays.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 2kidsami on 04/21/11 at 7:12 am
Based on your speculation, the 2000s ended in 2008, so 2009 does not exist?
Not only is it gay, it's super gay with a cape and can leap over tall buildings in a single bound.
But wouldn't that be.... SUPERFLY ????
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 2kidsami on 04/21/11 at 7:15 am
yeah i suppose. i just felt 2008 was a turning point kind of year. not all years are equal in how much things change.
Maybe it was a changing point for You, or even your city, your location... and that is great when that happens, change is always good.
But really 2008 is just another year to the rest of the world.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 2kidsami on 04/21/11 at 7:16 am
Now before Jason gets his hands on this... ::)
Errm...No. No idea what you're talking about.
If ever I saw a contradiction in terms...
Really guys... things didn't change that much. It's just your PERSPECTIVE of things that changed. (Commonly known as 'growing up', BTW. A slow and sometimes painful process)
Thanks for that reminder Henk :-\\
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: 2kidsami on 04/21/11 at 7:18 am
Well one thing is different from 2008 or even early 2010 in that we don't have to hear about "Kate+8" anymore. I think this is a good thing!
AGREED!
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Emman on 04/21/11 at 7:25 am
It still pretty much feels like the 00s, especially with a lot of the music (ahem Lil Wayne?). What were in right now is basically a toned down version of the 00s. This should continue until some point in 2012 or 2013, when the actual 10s culture begins.
Still waiting for that big 00s backlash. I want to see something akin to what happened to 80s culture in the 90s. The 00s sucked.
I think that's pretty common, for the first few years of a new decade to have a "afterglow" of the previous decade(cultural speaking of course). I would not say the pop culture now(as of 2011) is a toned down version of the 00s though, more like a mixture of a few 00s holdovers and things that will evolve further during the decade(probably electronic music).
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/21/11 at 7:41 am
I think that's pretty common, for the first few years of a new decade to have a "afterglow" of the previous decade(cultural speaking of course). I would not say the pop culture now(as of 2011) is a toned down version of the 00s though, more like a mixture of a few 00s holdovers and things that will evolve further during the decade(probably electronic music).
I could be wrong, after all, back in 1961 you could make a good case, based on what the 60s was like up to that point, that the sixties began in 1959. so 2011 still could be the late stages of the 2000s, or it could be well into the 10s, depending on if much changes between now and say, 2017.
But honestly I can't imagine 2017 having that much different a pop culture than 2011. It probably will be as much like today as today is like 2005 (that is somewhat different but still definitely the same epoch).
I think since 1991, the rate of pop cultural change has slowed a lot. Crap, 2011 has a '90s afterglow, as well as a 00s, yet it still seems 10s, just because the difference between decades is not quite what it once was.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Emman on 04/21/11 at 7:55 am
I think since 1991, the rate of pop cultural change has slowed a lot. Crap, 2011 has a '90s afterglow, as well as a 00s, yet it still seems 10s, just because the difference between decades is not quite what it once was.
I feel the change from the 90s to 00s was more gradual instead of the reactionary cultural change from the 80s to 90s(where you can pinpoint this change around 1991-ish), I think the change from the 60s to 70s was very gradual as well. Sometimes the cultural changes are very gradual from one era to the next but every now and then we get these abrupt changes, 1991 compared to 2011 seems ancient though.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: bchris02 on 04/21/11 at 8:01 am
There was definitely a change in 2008. But was it the start of "2010s culture" as OP says? It's still way too early in the 2010s to make that call. Heck, the dominant culture of the new decade usually doesn't become popular until the second half of the second year of the decade. Granted, those trends are usually set up in the last couple years of the previous decade, but it's still early to tell what late 00s trends will be regarding at "setting up" for 2010s culture and which ones weren't.
Wait until 2012, then we can get a better picture of what's going on.
I would say its too early to determine 2010s culture. 2008 started late '00s culture in my opinion, which is the culture we still have today.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/21/11 at 8:02 am
I feel the change from the 90s to 00s was more gradual instead of the reactionary cultural change from the 80s to 90s(where you can pinpoint this change around 1991-ish), I think the change from the 60s to 70s was very gradual as well.
I agree. I think a lot of it had to do with elements of pop culture shared between the two decades as well. The essences of '80s pop culture, such as New Wave and Hair Metal, and all the fashions that came with it, were only strong up to 1990, and were almost completely vaporized by 1993. That's not to say the '80s and '90s didn't have anything in common of course --- I think they had a lot in common, especially when it comes to things like children's fads and TV programming, and things like Televangelism. Another thing that makes the late 1980s to mid 1990s, like more or less 1987-1996, seem like an era of sorts is the fact you had shows like Full House. Married with Children, Family Matters, and Roseanne running through that period.
While the '90s and '00s had a lot of core musical things in common, such as the strong presence of gangsta rap and Alternative music throughout the majority of both decades (like 1992-2007 or so) and also shared a lot of TV shows (The Simpsons, The Real World, South Park, Friends). Plus I think the Internet boom era was divided in half by the year 2000 so the latter 90s and earlier 00s are sort of united by that.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/21/11 at 8:06 am
I would say its too early to determine 2010s culture. 2008 started late '00s culture in my opinion, which is the culture we still have today.
Nah, to me late 2000s culture would be that from the second half of 2005 to maybe the first half of 2008. There wasn't really a 'middle' 00s in my opinion, the period was too short and transient. i personally felt like we went straight from barely being over the late '90s to a style almost like the present day from the beginning to the end of 2005. you basically just had the early 00s (2001-04) which were really just the "years after the '90s" and then the 2005-2007 which was when the current trends started to bubble up and you had things like MySpace and Emo which only lasted in those few years for the most part.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Emman on 04/21/11 at 8:11 am
I would say its too early to determine 2010s culture. 2008 started late '00s culture in my opinion, which is the culture we still have today.
2008? ??? I guess these things are very subjective(and thus causes endless discussions and annoyances to some ;D), I tend to think the late 00s was definitely late '06 to late '08(ringtone rap, emo era) with late '08/2009 being the start of the early 10s pop culturally.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/21/11 at 8:12 am
2008? ??? I guess these things are very subjective(and thus causes endless discussions and annoyances to some ;D), I tend to think the late 00s was definitely late '06 to late '08(ringtone rap, emo era) with late '08/2009 being the start of the early 10s pop culturally.
The 10s began when people stopped pretending to be black and started pretending to be gay.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Shiv on 04/21/11 at 11:34 am
1991 compared to 2011 seems ancient though.
Thanks a lot :D
So will the 00s get a strong backlash or will it be another gradual shift?
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: joeman on 04/21/11 at 11:38 am
Thanks a lot :D
So will the 00s get a strong backlash or will it be another gradual shift?
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gradual shift. The reason why the early 90s had a huge backlash of the 80s was due to the 1991 being the final year of the Cold War era that has been going on since the 50s.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/21/11 at 12:53 pm
Maybe it was a changing point for You, or even your city, your location... and that is great when that happens, change is always good.
But really 2008 is just another year to the rest of the world.
You got that right.
Subject: Did the thread changed in 2008?
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/11 at 12:54 pm
Did the thread changed in 2008?
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Howard on 04/21/11 at 12:54 pm
The 10s began when people stopped pretending to be black and started pretending to be gay.
They did? ???
Subject: Re: Did the thread changed in 2008?
Written By: Howard on 04/21/11 at 12:55 pm
Did the thread changed in 2008?
The subject changed.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/11 at 1:04 pm
The 10s began when people stopped pretending to be black and started pretending to be gay.
Is there evidence of this?
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: tv on 04/21/11 at 1:22 pm
More evidence that 2007 was the last year that really felt like the 2000s! And good riddance!
I think after the summer of 2007 the core 00's were over.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: tv on 04/21/11 at 1:23 pm
Yeah true, hasn't really been a rejection of the last decade. Though, Fall Out Boy and Ashanti are hardly considered 'cool' anymore...
I think Ashanti was "cool" from 2002-2004 but not after that.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: tv on 04/21/11 at 1:28 pm
I remember when she put out her album in 2006 8-P luckily it bombed.
I remember still hearing a lot about Paris Hilton in 2007, but little to nothing after that year.
I would also extend the celeb obsession thing into 2007 because of the whole Britney, lindsey lohan, and Amy Winehouse (remember her?) ordeals. You couldn't go a day without hearing something about them in 2007.
Its still going on a little bit (Kim Kardashian?) but toned down compared to the core 00s.
Oh yeah I forgot about the Paris Hilton album back in 2007.
Yeah so we have Kim Kardashian and Snooki that are still kinda held back 00's stars in a toned down way as you said.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: tv on 04/21/11 at 1:34 pm
It still pretty much feels like the 00s, especially with a lot of the music (ahem Lil Wayne?). What were in right now is basically a toned down version of the 00s. This should continue until some point in 2012 or 2013, when the actual 10s culture begins.
Still waiting for that big 00s backlash. I want to see something akin to what happened to 80s culture in the 90s. The 00s sucked.
What I do hear though is people asking are Britney and Kim Kardashian talented? I myself never heard that question before until the last couple weeks.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/21/11 at 1:35 pm
Is there evidence of this?
I don't know. ???
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/21/11 at 1:37 pm
I don't know. ???
That statement has to be backed up.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/21/11 at 2:23 pm
I think after the summer of 2007 the core 00's were over.
Did Soulja Boy kill it? ;D
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: nintieskid999 on 04/21/11 at 2:26 pm
I don't think it still feels like the 00s. It feels nothing like 2002.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: youngerderek on 04/21/11 at 2:27 pm
I don't think it still feels like the 00s. It feels nothing like 2002.
I agree, today's a different scene for sure from anything 2007 or before.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: nintieskid999 on 04/21/11 at 2:33 pm
I agree, today's a different scene for sure from anything 2007 or before.
Things have been moving very fast and people tend to forget things. It feels nothing like the 00s where people were questioning whether Iraq had WMD, when 911 happened, and there was paranoia about anthrax.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: Shiv on 04/21/11 at 9:00 pm
What I do hear though is people asking are Britney and Kim Kardashian talented? I myself never heard that question before until the last couple weeks.
I've never considered Britney that talented, she has never written anything (that I know of, maybe I'm wrong), doesn't play an instrument, and her voice is studio-doctored. I guess she can dance?
Kim Kardashian is attractive but thats about it. Being famous for soley being attractive is a definitive 2000s trait. Thats why I think there's still some holdover.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/22/11 at 6:35 am
That statement has to be backed up.
I can try to find it.
Subject: Re: Something changed in 2008.
Written By: nintieskid999 on 04/22/11 at 7:20 am
I've never considered Britney that talented, she has never written anything (that I know of, maybe I'm wrong), doesn't play an instrument, and her voice is studio-doctored. I guess she can dance?
Kim Kardashian is attractive but thats about it. Being famous for soley being attractive is a definitive 2000s trait. Thats why I think there's still some holdover.
I just can't wait until this reality TV and style over substance craze goes away. Things are looking better than they were in 2007 however.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/22/11 at 1:18 pm
I can try to find it.
Let the host of the topic do that.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
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Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: SuperDude526 on 04/22/11 at 6:53 pm
Didn't read beyond the first page, but I just wanted to add my two cents:
In 2006, I switched from a public high school which as I think back on it was very conservative in the sort of "culture" the student and staff body had formed there: generally seeing the war as necessary if not supporting it outright, no real dialogue about global warming, most if not all teachers were (devout) Christians, and I was friends with the only Muslim girl in the entire freaking school. Also I was somewhat of a pariah for being a metalhead and actually supporting gay rights (not gay, but a believer in civil rights nonetheless).
I ended up going for my last two years in high school to a private high school with a reputation for both academic excellence and balls-to-the-wall liberalism and progressivism. I mean this was basically where aged hippies sent their children to school, and then many of those same parents were even teachers. We had a Day of Silence for LGBT, we had yearly Diversity Day, school assemblies based around going vegan so we could save the trees/animals/planet, and like five students who vocally identified as Republican. We also had a very large and influential Sierra Club, which was great for me since I was really concerned about global warming.
From late 2007 until graduation in summer '08 I did sorta feel like society as a whole was becoming a lot more liberal or like they were striving more towards these more liberal ideas. I remember my homeroom teacher mentioning this green TV channel and how environmentalism had become more like a cult rather than a movement towards creating meaningful change. I always wondered if this was all because people were getting so sick of Bush that the country as a whole was liberalizing, or whether my own involvement in this liberal culture made me more aware of it. Either way, I can concur that at some point in 2008 we had some sort of paradigm shift which I would strongly attribute to our country's weariness with the Bush presidency.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/22/11 at 7:09 pm
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Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/23/11 at 1:49 am
OH GOD MY EYES!!! :o
Especially first thing in the morning!
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Henk on 04/23/11 at 1:59 am
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Yes master Jason.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/23/11 at 6:18 am
Especially first thing in the morning!
You don't want to have a problem with your eyes.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Philip Eno on 04/23/11 at 6:18 am
You don't want to have a problem with your eyes.
I do not want it either!
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/23/11 at 6:19 am
I do not want it either!
I wouldn't want to need glasses.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Milkof1996 on 04/23/11 at 10:31 am
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Sir, I think you've broken the Time-Space Continuum.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: bchris02 on 04/23/11 at 11:35 am
2008 wasn't just changeful in terms of the '00s or '10s, it was the year our entire national mood and culture shifted. What happened in 2008 was much bigger than any of us could have comprehended at the time and we wont be able to get a full grasp on it until several years from now. It was bigger than just the election of our first black President. It was bigger than the stock market collapse. What happened is as a society, we basically rejected the ideals of and put an end to the Reagan era. It makes more sense if you look at history in eras rather than decades. From 1980 through 2008, ideals were very individualistic, selfish, nationalistic, greed-dominated, etc. In many ways, the '80s never ended (not speaking music/fashion wise but ideals). In 2008, we saw many of these ideas reverse.
1929, 1941, 1963, 1980, and 2008 were all years that marked these paradigm shifts.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Creeder on 04/23/11 at 2:59 pm
2008 wasn't just changeful in terms of the '00s or '10s, it was the year our entire national mood and culture shifted. What happened in 2008 was much bigger than any of us could have comprehended at the time and we wont be able to get a full grasp on it until several years from now. It was bigger than just the election of our first black President. It was bigger than the stock market collapse. What happened is as a society, we basically rejected the ideals of and put an end to the Reagan era. It makes more sense if you look at history in eras rather than decades. From 1980 through 2008, ideals were very individualistic, selfish, nationalistic, greed-dominated, etc. In many ways, the '80s never ended (not speaking music/fashion wise but ideals). In 2008, we saw many of these ideas reverse.
1929, 1941, 1963, 1980, and 2008 were all years that marked these paradigm shifts.
I agree with you. Nothing is the same anymore.
p.s. on second thought 9/11 2001 was pretty changeful too.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/23/11 at 7:20 pm
I agree with you. Nothing is the same anymore.
p.s. on second thought 9/11 2001 was pretty changeful too.
If we didn't have these checkups at airports or train stations,I'm sure that the world might be a little safer.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: RG1995 on 04/23/11 at 9:36 pm
2008 wasn't just changeful in terms of the '00s or '10s, it was the year our entire national mood and culture shifted. What happened in 2008 was much bigger than any of us could have comprehended at the time and we wont be able to get a full grasp on it until several years from now. It was bigger than just the election of our first black President. It was bigger than the stock market collapse. What happened is as a society, we basically rejected the ideals of and put an end to the Reagan era. It makes more sense if you look at history in eras rather than decades. From 1980 through 2008, ideals were very individualistic, selfish, nationalistic, greed-dominated, etc. In many ways, the '80s never ended (not speaking music/fashion wise but ideals). In 2008, we saw many of these ideas reverse.
1929, 1941, 1963, 1980, and 2008 were all years that marked these paradigm shifts.
Wall Street seems just as greedy and the middle class is still dwindling.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: SuperDude526 on 04/25/11 at 8:02 am
And the Tea Party/Republican Party still pushes Reagan era values.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Henk on 04/25/11 at 9:39 am
2008 wasn't just changeful in terms of the '00s or '10s, it was the year our entire national mood and culture shifted. What happened in 2008 was much bigger than any of us could have comprehended at the time and we wont be able to get a full grasp on it until several years from now. It was bigger than just the election of our first black President. It was bigger than the stock market collapse. What happened is as a society, we basically rejected the ideals of and put an end to the Reagan era. It makes more sense if you look at history in eras rather than decades. From 1980 through 2008, ideals were very individualistic, selfish, nationalistic, greed-dominated, etc. In many ways, the '80s never ended (not speaking music/fashion wise but ideals). In 2008, we saw many of these ideas reverse.
1929, 1941, 1963, 1980, and 2008 were all years that marked these paradigm shifts.
You'll be reading this in ten years from now and thinking: WTF was I smoking? :D ;D
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Henk on 04/25/11 at 9:42 am
If we didn't have these checkups at airports or train stations,I'm sure that the world might be a little safer.
No Howard - without those checkups the world would be in grave danger. You're basically saying that we all should be free to carry our own homemade bomb in our hand luggage!
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 04/25/11 at 12:49 pm
No Howard - without those checkups the world would be in grave danger. You're basically saying that we all should be free to carry our own homemade bomb in our hand luggage!
I'm not saying that I was just saying if the Towers didn't fall and explode,Would the world have been a little safer? ???
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
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Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: tv on 04/25/11 at 3:45 pm
And the Tea Party/Republican Party still pushes Reagan era values.
Yeah but they are to the right of Reagan in my opinion. I mean the "The Ryan Plan" is way to the right of Reagan.
Subject: Re: Someone is using made-up words like 'changeful' and 'decadeology'
Written By: Midas on 05/03/11 at 11:11 pm
this isnt' a gay topic. a gay topic would be like 'Do you like penis?' or 'What is your favorite Pet Shop Boys song?'
Now you're implying if someone likes penis or Pet Shop Boys that they're gay. There are straight women that like penis. There are many straight people that like Pet Shop Boys.
Pot, meet kettle.
Subject: Re: Someone is using made-up words like 'changeful' and 'decadeology'
Written By: tv on 05/04/11 at 2:11 pm
Now you're implying if someone likes penis or Pet Shop Boys that they're gay. There are straight women that like penis. There are many straight people that like Pet Shop Boys.
Pot, meet kettle.
I like the Pet Shop Boys and I am a straight male.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: karen on 05/04/11 at 5:21 pm
I'm not saying that I was just saying if the Towers didn't fall and explode,Would the world have been a little safer? ???
Would the world be a little safer if we didn't have terrorists? Probably!
Subject: Re: Someone is using made-up words like 'changeful' and 'decadeology'
Written By: Howard on 05/04/11 at 7:13 pm
I like the Pet Shop Boys and I am a straight male.
You don't have to be gay to enjoy Pet Shop Boys.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 05/04/11 at 7:14 pm
Would the world be a little safer if we didn't have terrorists? Probably!
If Osama Bin Laden didn't exist.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Brian06 on 08/09/11 at 1:32 am
2008 was an important year because of the election, the recession and the stock market crash, dance-pop really gained momentum, katy perry and lady gaga debuted in 08. Though the momentum for dance pop really goes back to 2005-2006, I really think Timbaland's work was key in loosening that absolute rap dominance that persisted in the US for a while. 2008 was when everybody started using autotune, in 2006-2007 it was mostly just T-Pain. Unsurprisingly T-Pain tanked in popularity once everybody started using the autotune.
All the radio formats have changed over the years, urban radio seems especially r&b leaning right now, pop radio is mostly dance pop, hot ac is one of the most shocking it is a lot more rhythmic/dance leaning than it was in the early-mid '00s when it was mostly singer songwriter stuff and post grunge, today you hear a lot of the pitbull, katy perry, ke$ha, gaga stuff on hot ac stations and a lot less rock influenced stuff.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: 80sfan on 08/09/11 at 10:38 am
2008 was an important year because of the election, the recession and the stock market crash, dance-pop really gained momentum, katy perry and lady gaga debuted in 08. Though the momentum for dance pop really goes back to 2005-2006, I really think Timbaland's work was key in loosening that absolute rap dominance that persisted in the US for a while. 2008 was when everybody started using autotune, in 2006-2007 it was mostly just T-Pain. Unsurprisingly T-Pain tanked in popularity once everybody started using the autotune.
All the radio formats have changed over the years, urban radio seems especially r&b leaning right now, pop radio is mostly dance pop, hot ac is one of the most shocking it is a lot more rhythmic/dance leaning than it was in the early-mid '00s when it was mostly singer songwriter stuff and post grunge, today you hear a lot of the pitbull, katy perry, ke$ha, gaga stuff on hot ac stations and a lot less rock influenced stuff.
2007/2008 was the beggining of this 'recession'!
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Brian06 on 08/09/11 at 9:34 pm
2008 also was when Twitter and Facebook soared and Myspace tanked by the end of the year. The 2008 election was notable for being the first presidential election of the social media era. Also 2008 was when smartphones started to get huge, and the App Store came out in 2008, and later in the year the very first Android phone the T-Mobile G1!
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: 1PlayerD on 08/31/11 at 10:52 pm
I kinda miss 2007, I remember when Linken Parks song "What I've Done" came out that year! :\'('
And in all honesty I was addicted to World of Warcraft 10-Day Trials. o.0
2008 just changed into something entirely different by the time it came, like it instantly moved 5 decades away.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Mr.Brightside on 09/04/11 at 11:31 am
I'd say 2007 set the groundwork for change while 2008 did it. That's the year Katy Perry and Lady Gaga blew up :\'( This alone would make anyone hate the year 2008 but 2007-2009 were just awful years for me on a personal level so I'd rather much forget all about the late 00's.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Brian06 on 09/04/11 at 11:14 pm
Didn't GaGa and Perry blow up in 2008? I know Katy had that "Ur So Gay" song in late 2007 though it wasn't successful, but I don't know of anything from GaGa that was released in 2007. "Just Dance" actually didn't blow up till about November/December 2008, though I had known the song about 6 months before that. Timbaland produced hits like "SexyBack", "Promiscuous", "The Way I Are" from 2006-2007 are what laid the groundwork for the electropop explosion imo. If you want to go back a little further...Gwen Stefani's "Love Angel Music Baby" is one mid '00s album that could still be big today, it's got all the cheesiness and electro influence of later '00s music.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: whistledog on 09/05/11 at 8:36 pm
2008 was the year that youngerderek had his first diaper changed. He's not even here anymore, and I still make fun of him ;D
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: batfan2005 on 10/10/11 at 8:59 am
Didn't GaGa and Perry blow up in 2008? I know Katy had that "Ur So Gay" song in late 2007 though it wasn't successful, but I don't know of anything from GaGa that was released in 2007. "Just Dance" actually didn't blow up till about November/December 2008, though I had known the song about 6 months before that. Timbaland produced hits like "SexyBack", "Promiscuous", "The Way I Are" from 2006-2007 are what laid the groundwork for the electropop explosion imo. If you want to go back a little further...Gwen Stefani's "Love Angel Music Baby" is one mid '00s album that could still be big today, it's got all the cheesiness and electro influence of later '00s music.
Actually I don't think GaGa blew up until early 2009, if not late 2008 at the earliest. I remember the first song I heard from her was "Just Dance", which I put on my iPod in early '09. Later in the year, her songs "Poker Face" and "Bad Romance" got played out. 2008 was more of Katy Perry's year. I remember her song "I Kissed a Girl" being big that summer.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Brian06 on 10/10/11 at 9:36 am
Actually I don't think GaGa blew up until early 2009, if not late 2008 at the earliest. I remember the first song I heard from her was "Just Dance", which I put on my iPod in early '09. Later in the year, her songs "Poker Face" and "Bad Romance" got played out. 2008 was more of Katy Perry's year. I remember her song "I Kissed a Girl" being big that summer.
GaGa started blowing up at the end of 2008 around November. Though I knew "Just Dance" like way back in June, I remember I had seen a banner ad for the song on the internet.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 10/10/11 at 12:44 pm
GaGa started blowing up at the end of 2008 around November. Though I knew "Just Dance" like way back in June, I remember I had seen a banner ad for the song on the internet.
and after that she became the most popular.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: 80sfan on 10/12/11 at 8:13 pm
I don't remember Gaga being that huge of a star in 2008. I didn't think she exploded into stardom until early 2009 and by Summer of 2009, every one knew who Gaga was!
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: fredrickthe94guy on 11/05/11 at 7:38 am
there was great change between 2007-2008
world just seems tumbling down about financial crisis
music suddenly become more auto-tuned everywhere and the rise of electro dance to mainstream
obama campaign was a huge one
emo/scene culture was fading
beginning of kim kardashian
beginning of Gaga and Katy Perry
and today feels very different from early 2000s for sure....
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: thenewtattoo on 05/04/13 at 9:55 pm
there was great change between 2007-2008
world just seems tumbling down about financial crisis
music suddenly become more auto-tuned everywhere and the rise of electro dance to mainstream
obama campaign was a huge one
emo/scene culture was fading
beginning of kim kardashian
beginning of Gaga and Katy Perry
and today feels very different from early 2000s for sure....
2008 was especially changeful.
This post is very much true now that further time has passed to reflect on this. For one here are a few things to consider about the zeitgeist change that occurred during this time period.
Now bare with me here.
To the naked eye mall culture was a mix of old & new. Here are a few 2008 mall scenes & everyday from this year. This mix between oldschool and newschool is perfectly implemented.
this shall help you jump into the moment as if you are actually there. WARNING: Nostalgia glasses needed.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3191/3155264924_7eb5b57c0f_o.jpg
One of the first years Widescreen monitors became the norm also one of the last years
of Cds being heavily promoted for burning music.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3087/2679836319_972a67f04c_z.jpg?zz=1
The month following the economic collapse alot of stores ended up looking like this.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3177/3049416468_e4d0d0d93e_b.jpg
Last ever episode of TRl aired in Nov of this year.
http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/jonas-gaga/jonas-brothers-lady-gaga-20.jpg
Lady Gaga at the end of the Trl era.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3258/2682608427_3c7e75ffb1_b.jpg
Local man (in classic 2000s attire) next to a Hancock movie promotion stand at a local
movie theater.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3532/3188043947_863d28d591_o.jpg
This poster was everywhere.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 05/05/13 at 4:49 pm
2008 was especially changeful.
This post is very much true now that further time has passed to reflect on this. For one here are a few things to consider about the zeitgeist change that occurred during this time period.
Now bare with me here.
To the naked eye mall culture was a mix of old & new. Here are a few 2008 mall scenes & everyday from this year. This mix between oldschool and newschool is perfectly implemented.
this shall help you jump into the moment as if you are actually there. WARNING: Nostalgia glasses needed.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3191/3155264924_7eb5b57c0f_o.jpg
One of the first years Widescreen monitors became the norm also one of the last years
of Cds being heavily promoted for burning music.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3087/2679836319_972a67f04c_z.jpg?zz=1
The month following the economic collapse alot of stores ended up looking like this.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3177/3049416468_e4d0d0d93e_b.jpg
Last ever episode of TRl aired in Nov of this year.
http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/jonas-gaga/jonas-brothers-lady-gaga-20.jpg
Lady Gaga at the end of the Trl era.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3258/2682608427_3c7e75ffb1_b.jpg
Local man (in classic 2000s attire) next to a Hancock movie promotion stand at a local
movie theater.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3532/3188043947_863d28d591_o.jpg
This poster was everywhere.
I do remember The Obama Hope posters. ^
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: MarkMc1990 on 05/05/13 at 11:07 pm
I don't remember Gaga being that huge of a star in 2008. I didn't think she exploded into stardom until early 2009 and by Summer of 2009, every one knew who Gaga was!
I have to agree.
I was a senior in high school for the '08-'09 school year and the first time I ever heard of Lady Gaga was in my final semester (Spring '09). I was in a drawing class that semester and a girl in my class did a distorted grid drawing of picture of Lady Gaga. Before that I had no idea who she was. That was probably around March...then by that Summer, her songs were all over the radio!
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: 80sfan on 05/06/13 at 12:13 am
I have to agree.
I was a senior in high school for the '08-'09 school year and the first time I ever heard of Lady Gaga was in my final semester (Spring '09). I was in a drawing class that semester and a girl in my class did a distorted grid drawing of picture of Lady Gaga. Before that I had no idea who she was. That was probably around March...then by that Summer, her songs were all over the radio!
Yeah, by November/December 2008 I think she 'started' to become famous.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: thenewtattoo on 05/06/13 at 10:01 am
Yeah, by November/December 2008 I think she 'started' to become famous.
Its weird seeing her in the classic 2000s mtv Trl era. As you had described Lady Gaga didn't really pop off until November.
November is also when Trl had its last month ever as a show. So its kind of weird seeing her with all these 2000s type
artists and in that format. When Gaga game out Rap was still in the ringtone rap era and Timbaland was still king.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRJQkPOknJQ
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: warped on 05/06/13 at 1:28 pm
The only thing I remember about 2008 was the Summer Olympics in Beijing and the wonderful opening ceremony there, best I have ever seen.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: captainEO on 05/06/13 at 3:01 pm
2008 was especially changeful.
This post is very much true now that further time has passed to reflect on this. For one here are a few things to consider about the zeitgeist change that occurred during this time period.
Now bare with me here.
To the naked eye mall culture was a mix of old & new. Here are a few 2008 mall scenes & everyday from this year. This mix between oldschool and newschool is perfectly implemented.
this shall help you jump into the moment as if you are actually there. WARNING: Nostalgia glasses needed.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3191/3155264924_7eb5b57c0f_o.jpg
One of the first years Widescreen monitors became the norm also one of the last years
of Cds being heavily promoted for burning music.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3087/2679836319_972a67f04c_z.jpg?zz=1
The month following the economic collapse alot of stores ended up looking like this.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3177/3049416468_e4d0d0d93e_b.jpg
Last ever episode of TRl aired in Nov of this year.
http://cdn03.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/jonas-gaga/jonas-brothers-lady-gaga-20.jpg
Lady Gaga at the end of the Trl era.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3258/2682608427_3c7e75ffb1_b.jpg
Local man (in classic 2000s attire) next to a Hancock movie promotion stand at a local
movie theater.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3532/3188043947_863d28d591_o.jpg
This poster was everywhere.
I can't believe this was 5 years ago.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 05/06/13 at 7:37 pm
Its weird seeing her in the classic 2000s mtv Trl era. As you had described Lady Gaga didn't really pop off until November.
November is also when Trl had its last month ever as a show. So its kind of weird seeing her with all these 2000s type
artists and in that format. When Gaga game out Rap was still in the ringtone rap era and Timbaland was still king.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRJQkPOknJQ
and she used to have jet black hair before her debut.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: thenewtattoo on 05/06/13 at 9:23 pm
and she used to have jet black hair before her debut.
Yep its weird seeing this hahah, its like the Trl 2000s era and you see Lady gaga on trl and are like wait arent Lady Gaga and Trl separate eras?
It is just weird seeing things mesh.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: thenewtattoo on 05/06/13 at 9:24 pm
The only thing I remember about 2008 was the Summer Olympics in Beijing and the wonderful opening ceremony there, best I have ever seen.
O yeah I remember seeing it and being sort of impressed.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: thenewtattoo on 05/06/13 at 10:11 pm
I can't believe this was 5 years ago.
Here are some more photos ( as if you are in the moment) its weird to see the classic 2000s and later 2000s mesh in 2008
Key things to look for is the fashion & colors. You might just be perplexed. =)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3096/2704046206_173db1a95d_b.jpg
Popular Mall teen store in 2008 riding tail end of the Wave of the (oc The Hills fad)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3209/2743484490_d97f3fda09_b.jpg
American Apparel explodes in popularity this year with neon clothing, and thus kick
starting the hipster era.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3203/2595657873_3465e5e871_o.jpg
Teens in 2008 hanging out at the mall
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2149/2203214089_bdd09b18c4_b.jpg
Mcdonalds before it changed the inside with Flat screen tvs and Mccafe (starbucks ish)
Walls. ( Last year of this style)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2036/2427655437_5c7bdae79c_z.jpg
Blockbuster a few months before it closed down
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3289/3108848852_4902496696_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3182/2762183917_4115844872.jpg
The year the Jonas peaked (photo @ mtv studios)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3158/2639836069_836e325fa8_z.jpg
apple store circa 2008
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2184/2472293713_43725bcdf5_z.jpg
Gta4 had a huge marketing campaign this year
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2346/2250255163_d0d2dd16b2_z.jpg
Fast food joint
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3273/2535857620_0a40bae669_z.jpg
store shelf
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3159/2749115551_0c9d2e2dfb.jpg
cool Dark Knight poster ( this movie was huge)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2370/2335693441_76416d5725_z.jpg
snowy night in boston
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLI0hWrRGI04kaELRkNua99p8EADzIlgCsCyjDG8ZMrAT8R684-g
Lady Gaga on the view
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Inlandsvägen1986 on 05/07/13 at 2:58 am
I will be in the US later this year (SFO). Then I'll check if it is really that much different from 2008 when I was in that city the last time.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 05/07/13 at 6:49 am
Gamestop is still around and once in a while I'll buy a video game from them.
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: captainEO on 05/07/13 at 4:25 pm
Here are some more photos ( as if you are in the moment) its weird to see the classic 2000s and later 2000s mesh in 2008
Key things to look for is the fashion & colors. You might just be perplexed. =)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3096/2704046206_173db1a95d_b.jpg
Popular Mall teen store in 2008 riding tail end of the Wave of the (oc The Hills fad)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3209/2743484490_d97f3fda09_b.jpg
American Apparel explodes in popularity this year with neon clothing, and thus kick
starting the hipster era.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3203/2595657873_3465e5e871_o.jpg
Teens in 2008 hanging out at the mall
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2149/2203214089_bdd09b18c4_b.jpg
Mcdonalds before it changed the inside with Flat screen tvs and Mccafe (starbucks ish)
Walls. ( Last year of this style)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2036/2427655437_5c7bdae79c_z.jpg
Blockbuster a few months before it closed down
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3289/3108848852_4902496696_b.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3182/2762183917_4115844872.jpg
The year the Jonas peaked (photo @ mtv studios)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3158/2639836069_836e325fa8_z.jpg
apple store circa 2008
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2184/2472293713_43725bcdf5_z.jpg
Gta4 had a huge marketing campaign this year
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2346/2250255163_d0d2dd16b2_z.jpg
Fast food joint
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3273/2535857620_0a40bae669_z.jpg
store shelf
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3159/2749115551_0c9d2e2dfb.jpg
cool Dark Knight poster ( this movie was huge)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2370/2335693441_76416d5725_z.jpg
snowy night in boston
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLI0hWrRGI04kaELRkNua99p8EADzIlgCsCyjDG8ZMrAT8R684-g
Lady Gaga on the view
Those are really cool pictures. Quite fascinating...
That time will gradually become older and older
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Slim95 on 05/08/13 at 12:50 am
Yeah 2008 was a HUGE transitional year. 1st half and second half of that year were like two different worlds. Things have changed a lot since 2008 and it's the first year of the 2000's that's similar to today. I think 2008 was the biggest cultural transitional year since 1991. (From 80's to 90's grunge period)
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: thenewtattoo on 05/08/13 at 12:11 pm
Those are really cool pictures. Quite fascinating...
That time will gradually become older and older
You can already tell it will, it has like this aura about it
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: thenewtattoo on 05/08/13 at 12:12 pm
Gamestop is still around and once in a while I'll buy a video game from them.
They were still selling ps2 games at rampant at that point
Subject: Re: 2008 was especially changeful.
Written By: Howard on 05/08/13 at 3:16 pm
They were still selling ps2 games at rampant at that point
and now it seems PS2 games are almost obsolete. It's more PS3 and Wii now.