Weren't you born in the 80's though?


Yes, I was born in 1988, which makes me 22 now. Luckily, I didn't have to experience the era of the 80's that my family went through. So I have no memories of the 80's whatsoever.

Of course it's biased, Lol.  ;D

To be more objective and honest, the 00's wasn't so bad, I'm pretty sure I'd rather live in the 00's than the 1930's.


Do you think about the 30's?  ???

Yes, I was born in 1988, which makes me 22 now. Luckily, I didn't have to experience the era of the 80's that my family went through. So I have no memories of the 80's whatsoever.


I was born in 1974 so I got to experience the 80's a little bit.

Yes, I was born in 1988, which makes me 22 now. Luckily, I didn't have to experience the era of the 80's that my family went through. So I have no memories of the 80's whatsoever.


I was born in 1985, so I have a pretty good memory of late-80s culture (it was still prevalent in 1990 and 1991) .  While the early '80s sucked, the late '80s were some of the best times to live in as an American.  Things changed with the 1991 recession and the subsequent election of Bill Clinton, ushering in the end of the Reagan-Bush era and changing the mood of this country. 

I was born in 1985, so I have a pretty good memory of late-80s culture (it was still prevalent in 1990 and 1991) .  While the early '80s sucked, the late '80s were some of the best times to live in as an American.  Things changed with the 1991 recession and the subsequent election of Bill Clinton, ushering in the end of the Reagan-Bush era and changing the mood of this country. 


Yeah, the reason why most of the early 80's sucked was because of the recession circa. 1980-1982.

Ok, so the 80s and 00s aren't identical. But you have to admit there were similarities. And i still think around late 2011 it'll start getting a big backlash similar to the 80s in the 90s where lots and lots of 00s stuff will be deemed tacky and uncool.

Ok, so the 80s and 00s aren't identical. But you have to admit there were similarities. And i still think around late 2011 it'll start getting a big backlash similar to the 80s in the 90s where lots and lots of 00s stuff will be deemed tacky and uncool.
I think 00'a Glam Rap already looks pretty uncool and out of touch with todays culture. I mean right now The Glam Rap era looks right now like Hair Metal in 1993: its just out of style.

I think 00'a Glam Rap already looks pretty uncool and out of touch with todays culture. I mean right now The Glam Rap era looks right now like Hair Metal in 1993: its just out of style.


Yeah we've reached a point where you got pop radio focusing on dance pop and urban radio is focusing more on r&b than rap, and the urban radio pop radio divide is very clear unlike in the mid '00s where there was a lot of crossover.

I think 00'a Glam Rap already looks pretty uncool and out of touch with todays culture. I mean right now The Glam Rap era looks right now like Hair Metal in 1993: its just out of style.


I can actually listen to the radio right now without feel like my IQ dropped about 50 points. Sure, music could be a whole lot better, but it's sure beats the hell out of 00's music!

I think 00'a Glam Rap already looks pretty uncool and out of touch with todays culture. I mean right now The Glam Rap era looks right now like Hair Metal in 1993: its just out of style.


What is Glam Rap?  ???

What is Glam Rap?  ???
I'm going to guess it's the Crunk (Lil Jon) and Ringtone/Snap Rap (Soulja Boy) era.

I'm going to guess it's the Crunk (Lil Jon) and Ringtone/Snap Rap (Soulja Boy) era.


Well,that's something new to me.

Like many people said, I think the current generation isn't into having their own identity as kids from the 50s to 90s did. I think that's the reason why there hasn't been many fads since the late 90's.

Also, I think we're just at the beggining of a new century so it might take some time for the pop culture to develop it's own identity.

And yes I agree with you, the 00's is not the new 80's.


Maybe our identity is taking what we like from different places and generations. This has been greatly influenced from the Internet, a part of Gen Y's teenage and young adult culture. Maybe we are rejecting a pop culture we don't like as a whole. We weren't the ones in the board rooms promoting bad reality TV show and glam rap. It was the Xers and the Boomers. Many Xers laugh at us for having such a warped pop culture but they never realize that Xers (and Boomers) had a hand in creating this culture (not blaming entire generations, just making an observation). Both Xers and Boomers were in board rooms deciding what to release and to the public. This had nothing to do with Gen Y.

Maybe our identity is taking what we like from different places and generations. This has been greatly influenced from the Internet, a part of Gen Y's teenage and young adult culture. Maybe we are rejecting a pop culture we don't like as a whole. We weren't the ones in the board rooms promoting bad reality TV show and glam rap. It was the Xers and the Boomers. Many Xers laugh at us for having such a warped pop culture but they never realize that Xers (and Boomers) had a hand in creating this culture (not blaming entire generations, just making an observation). Both Xers and Boomers were in board rooms deciding what to release and to the public. This had nothing to do with Gen Y.


I don't know how old you are, but you sound smart. 1 karma!

Maybe our identity is taking what we like from different places and generations. This has been greatly influenced from the Internet, a part of Gen Y's teenage and young adult culture. Maybe we are rejecting a pop culture we don't like as a whole. We weren't the ones in the board rooms promoting bad reality TV show and glam rap. It was the Xers and the Boomers. Many Xers laugh at us for having such a warped pop culture but they never realize that Xers (and Boomers) had a hand in creating this culture (not blaming entire generations, just making an observation). Both Xers and Boomers were in board rooms deciding what to release and to the public. This had nothing to do with Gen Y.
Well Generation Y bought/consumed the stuff though. I'm a Generation Xer and I don't like ringtone rap or autotone. A few 50 Cents songs I did like in the mid 00's I did like(yes make fun of me if you want to though!)

Well Generation Y bought/consumed the stuff though. I'm a Generation Xer and I don't like ringtone rap or autotone. A few 50 Cents songs I did like in the mid 00's I did like(yes make fun of me if you want to though!)


I actually liked 'In Da Club', 'Candyshop', and 'Many Men (Wish Death)'. Catchy songs!  8)

I actually liked 'In Da Club', 'Candyshop', and 'Many Men (Wish Death)'. Catchy songs!  8)
I liked "21 Questions", "Magic Stick" w/ Lil Kim and "Hate Or Love It" w/ The Game.

Well Generation Y bought/consumed the stuff though. I'm a Generation Xer and I don't like ringtone rap or autotone. A few 50 Cents songs I did like in the mid 00's I did like(yes make fun of me if you want to though!)



I agree. Ringtone rap and autotune suck. I hope to God they aren't playing it as oldies in say 2030. Anyways, here are my 2 cents on the music issue:

My opinion is that while Gen Y consumed this people fail to mention is that almost all radio and television stations were saturated with it. Clear Channel owns most of the radio stations due to the Telecommunications act of 1996. This effectiverly eliminated much of the competition. As a result, there is much less variety in terms of what we are exposed to. We're constantly hearing the same few songs, not being exposed to much of what's out there. I'm not making excuses, just giving explanations.

I also want to mention that music sales dropped in the 2000s. Some of it was due to the Internet but it was also due to people being fed up with what they were being exposed to. Many people commenting on older music videos are Generation Y, saying how much they hated a lot of the music being pushed on them. My point was that older people sitting in board rooms essentially promoted this type of music as well as reality TV shows and horrible cartoons I would have probably ignored as a kid. I just find it funny they put exclusive blame on my generation for the entertainment when we aren't the ones running the media or sitting down in board rooms discussing what to market and release. Consumers wre partially to blame but it seems they are the only ones people see in the equation.

Sorry for the rant, just needed to get this off my chest.  I feel the 10s culture will be based on a backlash against the core 00s. It's already starting to happen, with many gen Yers being the most vocal about it. 

I don't know how old you are, but you sound smart. 1 karma!


Thanks for the karma and compliment. I'm 24 years old.  :)

Well Generation Y bought/consumed the stuff though. I'm a Generation Xer and I don't like ringtone rap or autotone. A few 50 Cents songs I did like in the mid 00's I did like(yes make fun of me if you want to though!)


I'm Generatioon X myself born in the 70's.

I agree. Ringtone rap and autotune suck. I hope to God they aren't playing it as oldies in say 2030. Anyways, here are my 2 cents on the music issue:

My opinion is that while Gen Y consumed this people fail to mention is that almost all radio and television stations were saturated with it. Clear Channel owns most of the radio stations due to the Telecommunications act of 1996. This effectiverly eliminated much of the competition. As a result, there is much less variety in terms of what we are exposed to. We're constantly hearing the same few songs, not being exposed to much of what's out there. I'm not making excuses, just giving explanations.

I also want to mention that music sales dropped in the 2000s. Some of it was due to the Internet but it was also due to people being fed up with what they were being exposed to. Many people commenting on older music videos are Generation Y, saying how much they hated a lot of the music being pushed on them. My point was that older people sitting in board rooms essentially promoted this type of music as well as reality TV shows and horrible cartoons I would have probably ignored as a kid. I just find it funny they put exclusive blame on my generation for the entertainment when we aren't the ones running the media or sitting down in board rooms discussing what to market and release. Consumers wre partially to blame but it seems they are the only ones people see in the equation.

Sorry for the rant, just needed to get this off my chest.  I feel the 10s culture will be based on a backlash against the core 00s. It's already starting to happen, with many gen Yers being the most vocal about it.  
I agree with you on the Telecommunications act of 1996.

On the boardrooms issue you don't think there were older people in the 80's in board rooms searching for the New Madonna? I doubt that. As for the reality show trend wether or not the people in the board rooms decided to market it as a it a trend it came at a time when the the late 90's culture(1999-2002) was transitioning into the 00's culture(2003-2004) and the  reality trend was hot from 2000-2004 on mainstream network TV. The reality trend basically spilts the late 90's/00 transition(1999-2002) into the core 00's(2003-2004) being born.

I agree with you on the Telecommunications act of 1996.

On the boardrooms issue you don't think there were older people in the 80's in board rooms searching for the New Madonna? I doubt that. As for the reality show trend wether or not the people in the board rooms decided to market it as a it a trend it came at a time when the the late 90's culture(1999-2002) was transitioning into the 00's culture(2003-2004) and the  reality trend was hot from 2000-2004 on mainstream network TV. The reality trend basically spilts the late 90's/00 transition(1999-2002) into the core 00's(2003-2004) being born.


I think that each decade's pop culture is created by previous generations. It's just that each current generation latches on to it. I understand there was a transition. I just don't get why you are expected to like the music you were exposed to in high school and shut everything else out, even though those years were just as important. Maybe it's a Gen Y thing to view childhood as just as important as the high school years. Maybe because we were exposed to so much of the media as young children. I got into music on my own at 8 and it seems strange to hear older people say they only got into music on their own in their teens. As foir having actual music tastes (though not getting into music on my own), I remember liking songs as a preschooler and still remember the lyrics today.

I think that each decade's pop culture is created by previous generations. It's just that each current generation latches on to it. I understand there was a transition. I just don't get why you are expected to like the music you were exposed to in high school and shut everything else out, even though those years were just as important. Maybe it's a Gen Y thing to view childhood as just as important as the high school years. Maybe because we were exposed to so much of the media as young children. I got into music on my own at 8 and it seems strange to hear older people say they only got into music on their own in their teens. As foir having actual music tastes (though not getting into music on my own), I remember liking songs as a preschooler and still remember the lyrics today.
I still like music from my high school years, elementary school, and middle school years. Even some music from my pre-school years. In my pre-school years Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, Michael Jackson,, Billy Ocean, and Lionel Richie were big.

The funny thing is I didn't start listening to music that was popular while I was in middle school and high school (2002-2009) until I was well out of high school. I listened to mostly 60s-80s music during middle school and high school. Now I'm pretty much open to anything, past and present. I don't want to be one of those people who only listens to from their teens and 20something years for the rest of their lives. No way. I'm "anything goes" when it comes to music. And yes I'm a Gen Yer. Many, many of my friends are like this too. They listen to both current and older music.

I still like music from my high school years, elementary school, and middle school years. Even some music from my pre-school years. In my pre-school years Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, Michael Jackson,, Billy Ocean, and Lionel Richie were big.


So did I.  I especially relate most of my music from my Middle School and High School years.

The funny thing is I didn't start listening to music that was popular while I was in middle school and high school (2002-2009) until I was well out of high school. I listened to mostly 60s-80s music during middle school and high school. Now I'm pretty much open to anything, past and present. I don't want to be one of those people who only listens to from their teens and 20something years for the rest of their lives. No way. I'm "anything goes" when it comes to music. And yes I'm a Gen Yer. Many, many of my friends are like this too. They listen to both current and older music.
Same. I am a Gen Yer, or Gen Zer depending on the years, and I listen to anything from 60s-present day. I don't listen to Top 40 crap, but I do like Independant artist and some mainstream acts like Jay-Z and Foo Fighters. A lot of Gen Yers seem to like music from past decades(specifically 60s-90s) a lot.

I still like music from my high school years, elementary school, and middle school years. Even some music from my pre-school years. In my pre-school years Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, Michael Jackson,, Billy Ocean, and Lionel Richie were big.


Those were my years of listening to music,early to mid 80's.

Those were my years of listening to music,early to mid 80's.
You were what 12 years old in 1986 Howard?

The funny thing is I didn't start listening to music that was popular while I was in middle school and high school (2002-2009) until I was well out of high school. I listened to mostly 60s-80s music during middle school and high school. Now I'm pretty much open to anything, past and present. I don't want to be one of those people who only listens to from their teens and 20something years for the rest of their lives. No way. I'm "anything goes" when it comes to music. And yes I'm a Gen Yer. Many, many of my friends are like this too. They listen to both current and older music.
I didn't listen to the radio in my own till I was on the way to High School(summer of 1994.)

You were what 12 years old in 1986 Howard?


Yes and I remember Run DMC.