I really have trouble with the acceptance of American "pop culture" as being our "culture". I have never been particularly fond of my generation (Baby Boomers) and I resent being classified as being one of the "Woodstock Generation". It seems that "rock" music in one form or another is the "norm". Have you heard about any young music performers who reject that genre?

How about the tennis player Andy Murray, who was dumped by his girlfriend because he spend 7 hours a day playing video games?

http://www.ripten.com/2009/12/05/world-4th-ranked-pro-tennis-player-dumped-over-7-hour-a-day-modern-warfare-2-addiction/

I have played video games once in my life, and do not see the point. At all. Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?

Isn't there anyone else out there who just wants nothing to do with pop culture?

I really have trouble with the acceptance of "pop culture" as being our "culture". I have never been particularly fond of my generation (Baby Boomers) and I resent being classified as being one of the "Woodstock Generation". It seems that "rock" music in one form or another is the "norm". Have you heard about any young music performers who reject that genre?

How about the tennis player Andy Murray, who was dumped by his girlfriend because he spend 7 hours a day playing video games?

http://www.ripten.com/2009/12/05/world-4th-ranked-pro-tennis-player-dumped-over-7-hour-a-day-modern-warfare-2-addiction/

I have played video games once in my life, and do not see the point. At all. Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?


::)

Um no.... because pop culture isn't just rock music and video games.. its movies and tv and all genres of music and books and comic books and toys and food and advertising and encompasses everything you've ever experienced... basically to escape pop culture you would have to unplug your computer, cancel your electricity and move to the mountains in a log cabin and live ala Laura Ingalls Wilder... you might have heard of her... she was very popular in the 70s, which is when , I assume you grew up since you mention being considered one of Woodstock Generation....

And frankly I think since you go from dissing the 70s to the 00s this topic probably should have been posted in the more than a decade thread 

::)

Um no.... because pop culture isn't just rock music and video games.. its movies and tv and all genres of music and books and comic books and toys and food and advertising and encompasses everything you've ever experienced... basically to escape pop culture you would have to unplug your computer, cancel your electricity and move to the mountains in a log cabin and live ala Laura Ingalls Wilder... you might have heard of her... she was very popular in the 70s, which is when , I assume you grew up since you mention being considered one of Woodstock Generation....

And frankly I think since you go from dissing the 70s to the 00s this topic probably should have been posted in the more than a decade thread 


Well, I hardly go to movies any more...they just strike me as incredibly bad. I have seen some really crappy movies in the last few years. It's hard to understand why. Books? I read mostly Victorian fiction...and nonfiction.

I was born in 1949. By the way, I did like the music of the early 80s, the New Wave stuff.

I don't own a pair of jeans...I wear suit to go to bars...and a tux to parties.

Well, I hardly go to movies any more...they just strike me as incredibly bad. I have seen some really crappy movies in the last few years. It's hard to understand why. Books? I read mostly Victorian fiction...and nonfiction.


Perhaps you have been out of touch for so long you just forgot how to find good movie. I have seen some fantastic movies this year.
I'm not much in to Victorian Fiction... I've read some and what I've read I have not enjoyed...

My question is... why join a pop culture message board if you are anti pop culture?

My question is....why the hell are you on the internet if you don't like all the newfangled stuff?


There is a difference between technology and culture.

Perhaps you have been out of touch for so long you just forgot how to find good movie. I have seen some fantastic movies this year.
I'm not much in to Victorian Fiction... I've read some and what I've read I have not enjoyed...

My question is... why join a pop culture message board if you are anti pop culture?


you seem to have missed my question so I'll post it again.....



why join a pop culture message board if you are anti pop culture?

I LOVE pop culture. And I love the woodstock generation!

I'm such a broad person that I love all the decades of the 20th century 1901-2000.

I don't love so much the current decade we are living in (00's), but I think the 2010s' culture will be a little better (though not by much).

I really have trouble with the acceptance of "pop culture" as being our "culture". I have never been particularly fond of my generation (Baby Boomers) and I resent being classified as being one of the "Woodstock Generation". It seems that "rock" music in one form or another is the "norm". Have you heard about any young music performers who reject that genre?

How about the tennis player Andy Murray, who was dumped by his girlfriend because he spend 7 hours a day playing video games?

http://www.ripten.com/2009/12/05/world-4th-ranked-pro-tennis-player-dumped-over-7-hour-a-day-modern-warfare-2-addiction/

I have played video games once in my life, and do not see the point. At all. Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?

Isn't there anyone else out there who just wants nothing to do with pop culture?

I understand how you feel, but everyone is different. I also don't play computer games, but I don't mind if others play. I don't even have a cell phone, I don't have cable, I have not gone to see a movie in a theater for 12 years. This is my choice of how I want to live.

I can't say I am renouncing pop culture as there are still some good things in pop culture, whether the 50s, 60s, 80s or today.
If you want to renounce pop culture, please go ahead.  There are more things I don't like about this present world than pop culture, like the lack of respect among people, the loss of integrity in many people, and the decline in morals standards over the last few decades.

you seem to have missed my question so I'll post it again.....



why join a pop culture message board if you are anti pop culture?


It's not that simple. I am not defined by "my generation". In high school I didn't really care for the music...and I didn't date. Pop culture was just getting going in the early-mid sixties. My point is that during that period pop culture was "optional". Today, everyone listens to rock...commercials assume that all men drink beer or need Viagra...

The current pop cultural climate is really just an extension of the pop culture of the 60s, which billed itself as the "counterculture". It was a deliberate thing to reject everything that came before. But it seems we have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.

I LOVE pop culture. And I love the woodstock generation!

I'm such a broad person that I love all the decades of the 20th century 1901-2000.

I don't love so much the current decade we are living in (00's), but I think the 2010s' culture will be a little better (though not by much).





for  me its not so much the culture as it is the people... well I guess it is I hate the boom of the Reality Celebs... no way The Hills, the kardashians, the Hiltons (Paris & Perez), the Gosselins and all those boring people would have been famous in the 80s.  We liked our celebs to be talented! They could act out all they wanted....so long as they could also act!!!


I do hate the music tho... like 85% of it... Miley, Jonas Bores, Adam Lambert, the disney "stars" and all those other boring people can go away...


but still I'm not ready to denounce pop culture as a whole I just learn what I don't like and avoid it whenever possible.

To answer your question... I want everything to do with the past decades' culture, but not the current one!  :)

But I think it's impossible to escape "popular" culture.

You might as well not read any books, wear any clothes, hear any music (past or present), see any movies or tv shows (they currently suck right now), or buy a house! Even house's designs follow trends and stuff. All the manufacturers follow what people want so it's impossible to not follow popular culture. Even the tools you use to make your own stuff is from a manufacturing company!

I don't even have a cell phone, I don't have cable, I have not gone to see a movie in a theater for 12 years. 

yeah but you live in canadia so that technology isn't available to you yet... we all know that you hook up a type writer to a telephone pole just so you can get online  ;) 



There are more things I don't like about this present world than pop culture, like the lack of respect among people, the loss of integrity in many people, and the decline in morals standards over the last few decades.


Blame Canada?      (sorry frank you just make it so easy sometimes!!!) you know I luvs ya!!  :-*

for  me its not so much the culture as it is the people... well I guess it is I hate the boom of the Reality Celebs... no way The Hills, the kardashians, the Hiltons (Paris & Perez), the Gosselins and all those boring people would have been famous in the 80s.  We liked our celebs to be talented! They could act out all they wanted....so long as they could also act!!!


I do hate the music tho... like 85% of it... Miley, Jonas Bores, Adam Lambert, the disney "stars" and all those other boring people can go away...


but still I'm not ready to denounce pop culture as a whole I just learn what I don't like and avoid it whenever possible.





Yeah, occasionally I find some pop music I like...Everything But The Girl, Moon Seven Times, Over The Rhine, October Project...but yeah, your figure is probably close to correct...maybe a little low.

Basically, the vast majority of movies, books, music and TV that's out there....are of very little interest to me.

It's not that simple. I am not defined by "my generation". In high school I didn't really care for the music...and I didn't date. Pop culture was just getting going in the early-mid sixties. My point is that during that period pop culture was "optional". Today, everyone listens to rock...commercials assume that all men drink beer or need Viagra...


I don't think commercials assume that all men drink beer or need Viagra. They are just trying to sell it, that's all. Make money.And not everyone listens to rock.
It's OK if in high school you didn't really care for the music at the time. I have a friend that throughout the 70s and 80s he only listened to classical music. That's OK. You listen to what you like. Everyone else will listen to what they like too. Not a problem.

I understand how you feel, but everyone is different. I also don't play computer games, but I don't mind if others play. I don't even have a cell phone, I don't have cable, I have not gone to see a movie in a theater for 12 years. This is my choice of how I want to live.

I can't say I am renouncing pop culture as there are still some good things in pop culture, whether the 50s, 60s, 80s or today.
If you want to renounce pop culture, please go ahead.  There are more things I don't like about this present world than pop culture, like the lack of respect among people, the loss of integrity in many people, and the decline in morals standards over the last few decades.


I didn't have a cell phone until a year ago...it became too difficult dealing with people without one.

I agree with your other points.

There is a difference between technology and culture.


Not anymore.

yeah but you live in canadia so that technology isn't available to you yet... we all know that you hook up a type writer to a telephone pole just so you can get online  ;) 



typewriter stolen from the US and telephone pole connected to AT&T ( shh, don't tell anyone)
Thank goodness the typewriter fits into my igloo, and enough room for my pile of tuqes too.

I don't think commercials assume that all men drink beer or need Viagra. They are just trying to sell it, that's all. Make money.And not everyone listens to rock.
It's OK if in high school you didn't really care for the music at the time. I have a friend that throughout the 70s and 80s he only listened to classical music. That's OK. You listen to what you like. Everyone else will listen to what they like too. Not a problem.


Just examine the commercials you see and see how they characterize people....how they mold you subconsciously and assume you fit into their marketing demographic. Everything is demographics. Everything.

It's not that simple. I am not defined by "my generation". In high school I didn't really care for the music...and I didn't date. Pop culture was just getting going in the early-mid sixties. My point is that during that period pop culture was "optional". Today, everyone listens to rock...commercials assume that all men drink beer or need Viagra...

The current pop cultural climate is really just an extension of the pop culture of the 60s, which billed itself as the "counterculture". It was a deliberate thing to reject everything that came before. But it seems we have thrown the baby out with the bathwater.


so you are not the norm... the person they show now to represent your generation does not represent you....welcome to my universe... try growing up black in the United States and having people think that what they saw in the 70s and 80s was an  honest representation of every black person in America...  ::)

Not anymore.


Well I disagree but let's not get too concerned with that.

Just examine the commercials you see and see how they characterize people....how they mold you subconsciously and assume you fit into their marketing demographic. Everything is demographics. Everything.

Then, don't let them mold you subconsciously. Just ignore.

so you are not the norm... the person they show now to represent your generation does not represent you....welcome to my universe... try growing up black in the United States and having people think that what they saw in the 70s and 80s was an  honest representation of every black person in America...  ::)




Well that is a related but separate issue. I'm talking about someone basically "rejecting" the attitudes and behavior and cultural products all around us.

try growing up black in the United States and having people think that what they saw in the 70s and 80s was an  honest representation of every black person in America...  ::)



You didn't have a brother named Willis?  ;)

I'm not surprised.


LOL. I just don't think that's the most important point I'm trying to make. If you disagree, fine...

Well that is a related but separate issue. I'm talking about someone basically "rejecting" the attitudes and behavior and cultural products all around us.


but again... why do that on a message board created to celebrate pop culture? why not find an "angry-old-man-this-world-sucks-board"

You didn't have a brother named Willis?  ;)


whachu talkin' about?!?!?

LOL. I just don't think that's the most important point I'm trying to make. If you disagree, fine...


Your point was opting out of pop culture.  Technology is a part of pop culture nowadays.  So yes, I do disagree with you.

Kthxbai.

but again... why do that on a message board created to celebrate pop culture? why not find an "angry-old-man-this-world-sucks-board"




Hmmmm...I was not aware that this was what the site was about. I was looking for people who also hated Lesley Gore. I found the discussion about 60s music and joined the site.

LOL. I just don't think that's the most important point I'm trying to make. If you disagree, fine...


so basically everytime we point out a flaw in your logic you are going to choose to ignore it because it doesn't jive with what you've come here to say?


Sinter Klaas must really love me! He always sends me a new plaything this time of year!  ;D

so basically everytime we point out a flaw in your logic you are going to choose to ignore it because it doesn't jive with what you've come here to say?


Sinter Klaas must really love me! He always sends me a new plaything this time of year!  ;D


It's not a "flaw in logic" to affirm or deny that culture and technology are distinct. I didn't say you made a bad argument, I just said I didn't care to argue the point now. If you disagree, if you think technology and culture are one and the same, fine. I'm not denying they are intertwined, I'm denying they're identical.

Hmmmm...I was not aware that this was what the site was about. I was looking for people who also hated Lesley Gore. I found the discussion about 60s music and joined the site.


She turned out to be a lesbian. I love her song "It's my party". But other than that I don't pay much attention to her. I'm 21 by the way.

It's not a "flaw in logic" to affirm or deny that culture and technology are distinct.


I offer a contrapositive, in that because of the interconnectedness of the world in this new information age, that it is impossible to distinguish the technology from the culture.  See: Facebook, Failblog, this website.

Hmmmm...I was not aware that this was what the site was about. I was looking for people who also hated Lesley Gore. I found the discussion about 60s music and joined the site.

And please do stay, but this is:
inthe00s

The Pop Culture Information Society...

Hmmmm...I was not aware that this was what the site was about. I was looking for people who also hated Lesley Gore. I found the discussion about 60s music and joined the site.


Anyways, why do you not care for your generation's music?

And what do you think about today's music?

How the hell could you not be aware?!?!  The frickin' logo in the left hand corner says, "THE POP CULTURE INFORMATION SOCIETY".  Jesus reading comprehension Christ.


And please do stay, but this is:
inthe00s

The Pop Culture Information Society...



What they said.

How the hell could you not be aware?!?!  The frickin' logo in the left hand corner says, "THE POP CULTURE INFORMATION SOCIETY".  Jesus reading comprehension Christ.


Calm down...the title says nothing about worshipping pop culture.

She turned out to be a lesbian. I love her song "It's my party". But other than that I don't pay much attention to her. I'm 21 by the way.



Its right there under the board logo  The Pop Culture Information Society...

There are frequent discussions about different aspects of pop culture and people express opinions on them but no one would dare denounce pop culture itself ... not ever... 

Calm down...the title says nothing about worshipping pop culture.


I am calm.  You just fail at reading.

She turned out to be a lesbian. I love her song "It's my party". But other than that I don't pay much attention to her. I'm 21 by the way.


I hated that song and the other one...Judy's Turn to Cry. The songs paint her a stupid immature brat who has no consideration for other people or their feelings.

Its right there under the board logo  The Pop Culture Information Society...

There are frequent discussions about different aspects of pop culture and people express opinions on them but no one would dare denounce pop culture itself ... not ever... 


Well there's a first time for everything. LOL

And by the way, "rejection" is not denunciation. If other people want to be part of pop culture...fine with me. I think it's funny how stupid the people who market things are.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLdog/noob.jpg

It's not a "flaw in logic" to affirm or deny that culture and technology are distinct. I didn't say you made a bad argument, I just said I didn't care to argue the point now. If you disagree, if you think technology and culture are one and the same, fine. I'm not denying they are intertwined, I'm denying they're identical.


well I was using that as one example... as Jess mentioned.. in this day and age technology is another form of popular culture. you chose to ignore it.

I make a comparison about how generalized representation has always been present and you say my point is similar but not relevant in this case...

(or something like that- I'm not going back for the actual quote.)


basically you just want us to accept your bitching without question.... we don't do that here.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/LOLdog/noob.jpg


Now that wasn't very nice.

I hated that song and the other one...Judy's Turn to Cry. The songs paint her a stupid immature brat who has no consideration for other people or their feelings.


..but it's just a song tho. It's not a political statement that represents a whole generation. It's just a song
(And I like that song too, and lots of Leslie Gore songs)

Now that wasn't very nice.


I'm surprised you know what it meant, considering you hate pop culture and all....

typewriter stolen from the US and telephone pole connected to AT&T ( shh, don't tell anyone)
Thank goodness the typewriter fits into my igloo, and enough room for my pile of tuqes too.



you're awesome frank! O0

I hated that song and the other one...Judy's Turn to Cry. The songs paint her a stupid immature brat who has no consideration for other people or their feelings.


In the song "It's my party", how is she selfish? The girl in the song is hurt because her boyfriend is with another girl when he should still be with her. The boyfriend is the selfish one!

Just examine the commercials you see and see how they characterize people....how they mold you subconsciously and assume you fit into their marketing demographic. Everything is demographics. Everything.


you say this like its a new thing this has been going on since the advent of advertising

well I was using that as one example... as Jess mentioned.. in this day and age technology is another form of popular culture. you chose to ignore it.

I make a comparison about how generalized representation has always been present and you say my point is similar but not relevant in this case...

(or something like that- I'm not going back for the actual quote.)


basically you just want us to accept your bitching without question.... we don't do that here.


Well there's material culture and then there are the other elements...language, customs, etc. It's called non-material culture by anthropologists and sociologists.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Differentiate_non_material_culture_and_material_culture

Your point was opting out of pop culture.  Technology is a part of pop culture nowadays.  So yes, I do disagree with you.

Kthxbai.


hmm the logic is strong in this one!

In the song "It's my party", how is she selfish? The girl in the song is hurt because her boyfriend is with another girl when he should still be with her. The boyfriend is the selfish one!



Hmmmm "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to...."

Doesn't that suggest she recognizes she should be more mature?

hmm the logic is strong in this one!


Not at all...pop culture might have incorporated the latest advances in communications technology...but the culture itself remains distinct.

I'm surprised you know what it meant, considering you hate pop culture and all....


Well "hate" isn't the word. I simply shrug and think to myself..."how lame".

I am talking about options to being "in" pop culture, ways to make sure we don't get all caught up in it and inadvertently and unquestioningly adopt popular attitudes.

Calm down...the title says nothing about worshipping pop culture.


A society formed solely around that thing known as pop culture.... shocking that we worship it isn't it?  ::)

Hmmmm "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to...."

Doesn't that suggest she recognizes she should be more mature?

But.... it's just a song about a girl with hurt feelings. I'm not sure I understand the problem here. Are you saying no one should sing/write these types of songs? Poeple can't have feelings, whether selfish or not?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.

A society formed solely around that thing known as pop culture.... shocking that we worship it isn't it?  ::)


Depends. I am sure there is a broad range of people here

But.... it's just a song about a girl with hurt feelings. I'm not sure I understand the problem here. Are you saying no one should sing/write these types of songs? Poeple can't have feelings, whether selfish or not?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.


All I'm saying is I hated the song and still do. Is that OK?

Well "hate" isn't the word. I simply shrug and think to myself..."how lame".

I am talking about options to being "in" pop culture, ways to make sure we don't get all caught up in it and inadvertently and unquestioningly adopt popular attitudes.


How very pretentious of you.  You will never escape influence of the outside world, unless you lock yourself up in a bunker or something.  I suggest you start that right now.

I hated that song and the other one...Judy's Turn to Cry. The songs paint her a stupid immature brat who has no consideration for other people or their feelings.


wasn't she like... 16 and self absorbed like all other 16 yr olds *then and now*

How very pretentious of you.  You will never escape influence of the outside world, unless you lock yourself up in a bunker or something.  I suggest you start that right now.


I'm talking about independence.

wasn't she like... 16 and self absorbed like all other 16 yr olds *then and now*


Yes, but the song and the other one...well let's just say they rubbed me the wrong way,

My question is....why the hell are you on the internet if you don't like all the newfangled stuff?


I was just about to ask that question.  It seems it's a case of pick and choose.

But.... it's just a song about a girl with hurt feelings. I'm not sure I understand the problem here. Are you saying no one should sing/write these types of songs? Poeple can't have feelings, whether selfish or not?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.


The guy is just trying to get attention.

I suggest we close this thread before there's more fights.  :-\\

The guy is just trying to get attention.

I suggest we close this thread before there's more fights.  :-\\


What fights?

Well there's a first time for everything. LOL

And by the way, "rejection" is not denunciation. If other people want to be part of pop culture...fine with me. I think it's funny how stupid the people who market things are.


please explain the subtle difference between rejecting and denouncing... 

basically you reject pop culture and in explaining your reasons for doing so you seem to be denouncing as well.

All I'm saying is I hated the song and still do. Is that OK?

Of course it's OK that you hate the song. That's fine. I don't like rap music, I don't like the New York Yankees. Everyone here doesn't like something.
But just because I don't like rap music or the Yankees, doesn't mean everyone else has to hate it.

..but it's just a song tho. It's not a political statement that represents a whole generation. It's just a song
(And I like that song too, and lots of Leslie Gore songs)


me too...

The guy is just trying to get attention.

I suggest we close this thread before there's more fights.  :-\\


I googled the name he gave.  I wonder if this is the same Michael Scarpitti/Tre Arrow that's wanted by the FBI for ecoterrorism. :D

please explain the subtle difference between rejecting and denouncing... 

basically you reject pop culture and in explaining your reasons for doing so you seem to be denouncing as well.


Rejection is personal choice, realizing that "this isn't my cup of tea". Denunciation is public statement. Personally, I don't care what other people do or listen to. I just don't like it when they intrude with their lack of courtesy, blasting rap on their car stereos.

I googled the name he gave.  I wonder if this is the same Michael Scarpitti/Tre Arrow that's wanted by the FBI for ecoterrorism. :D


No, he's some other guy.

I googled the name he gave.  I wonder if this is the same Michael Scarpitti/Tre Arrow that's wanted by the FBI for ecoterrorism. :D


;D

There is a difference between technology and culture.


Both have always gone hand and hand.  Take for example the Ford Model T and it's impact on a whole generation.  You can't have one without the other.  Going back further Mozart played and composed on only the latest instruments of his day.

No, he's some other guy.


Then maybe you're the guy that cusses a lot on the Leica Users Group and acts like he knows it all.

So many possibilities.....

Both have always gone hand and hand.  Take for example the Ford Model T and it's impact on a whole generation.  You can't have one without the other.  Going back further Mozart played and composed on only the latest instruments of his day.


Yes, agreed; they are distinct though related.

. I just don't like it when they intrude with their lack of courtesy, blasting rap on their car stereos.

I don't like loud music either ( whether disco, rap, jazz, rock, or anything else blasting on a car stereo.)
Just ignore and think of something else at the time. Surely you must have some things you enjoy? Do those things. Enjoy life.

Well there's material culture and then there are the other elements...language, customs, etc. It's called non-material culture by anthropologists and sociologists.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Differentiate_non_material_culture_and_material_culture


I'm not going to sit here and read a wiki article aobut material vs non-material culture.  Especially when the point being made was about representation not materialism...  you said the advertisers represent your culture as rock loving, viagra popping morons... I'm paraphrasing...

I said representation has always been off the mark... I just used an example relevant to me to make the point...

wait a minute... is this Soul Assylum... you sound an awful like that twat Soul Assylum. 

Then maybe you're the guy that cusses a lot on the Leica Users Group and acts like he knows it all.

So many possibilities.....


I was hoping to find some folks who, like me, don't care for the music they grew up with, as if simply because that's what was around us we should be expected to like it.

Hmmmm "It's my party and I'll cry if I want to...."

Doesn't that suggest she recognizes she should be more mature?


who gives a crap about the stupid song... she was a self absorbed kid who was hurt by her boyfriend.. if she were a feminist she would've smacked them both but she's not so she didn't....  ::)

Then maybe you're the guy that cusses a lot on the Leica Users Group and acts like he knows it all.

So many possibilities.....


Yup, he's an attention getter!

Hmmmm...I was not aware that this was what the site was about. I was looking for people who also hated Lesley Gore. I found the discussion about 60s music and joined the site.


What part of "The Pop Culture Information Society" do you not understand???

I don't like loud music either ( whether disco, rap, jazz, rock, or anything else blasting on a car stereo.)
Just ignore and think of something else at the time. Surely you must have some things you enjoy? Do those things. Enjoy life.


Yes, I do.


I don't like loud sounds, I don't go to concerts even of bands whose CDs I buy.

I grew up with rap, but I don't like it :P

I also grew up with 80s music, which I do like.

Can't hate everything or else one's life is going to pretty much suck while waiting for something that hopefully won't suck as much as perceived by oneself :P

Not at all...pop culture might have incorporated the latest advances in communications technology...but the culture itself remains distinct.


technology has become a part of pop culture...not just because it incorporates the latest advances but because the need, the love and the desire for it has advanced beyond the technology itself.

What part of "The Pop Culture Information Society" do you not understand???


I was searching for "worst songs of the 60s" on google. I landed here. Simple enough?

But.... it's just a song about a girl with hurt feelings. I'm not sure I understand the problem here. Are you saying no one should sing/write these types of songs? Poeple can't have feelings, whether selfish or not?
Sorry if I have misunderstood.


frank why are you apologizing he's just trying to annoy you on purpose.

I was hoping to find some folks who, like me, don't care for the music they grew up with, as if simply because that's what was around us we should be expected to like it.

No one should tell you that you are expected to like it. You can like what you want. If you like Chinese Opera (like my mother in law) then that's great!
Never feel forced to like something you don't. IMHO, we have been given the freedom of choice (in most cases, situations)

technology has become a part of pop culture...not just because it incorporates the latest advances but because the need, the love and the desire for it has advanced beyond the technology itself.


Well the primitive humans had stone chisels...that limited their culture greatly.

Depends. I am sure there is a broad range of people here


All of whom came here to discuss pop culture...every single one of them... even you...

I was hoping to find some folks who, like me, don't care for the music they grew up with, as if simply because that's what was around us we should be expected to like it.



I really have trouble with the acceptance of "pop culture" as being our "culture". I have never been particularly fond of my generation (Baby Boomers) and I resent being classified as being one of the "Woodstock Generation". It seems that "rock" music in one form or another is the "norm". Have you heard about any young music performers who reject that genre?

How about the tennis player Andy Murray, who was dumped by his girlfriend because he spend 7 hours a day playing video games?

http://www.ripten.com/2009/12/05/world-4th-ranked-pro-tennis-player-dumped-over-7-hour-a-day-modern-warfare-2-addiction/

I have played video games once in my life, and do not see the point. At all. Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?

Isn't there anyone else out there who just wants nothing to do with pop culture?


Your first post was about opting out of pop culture and how much it sucks.  Now you're saying that you just want people who didn't like the music they grew up with.  Make up your mind.

All I'm saying is I hated the song and still do. Is that OK?




yes but that should be reserved for the Leslie Gore thread... its really out of place in this discussion.

How very pretentious of you.  You will never escape influence of the outside world, unless you lock yourself up in a bunker or something.  I suggest you start that right now.


that would be nice.

Your first post was about opting out of pop culture and how much it sucks.  Now you're saying that you just want people who didn't like the music they grew up with.  Make up your mind.


Uhmmm...they're related.

Yes, but the song and the other one...well let's just say they rubbed me the wrong way,


so don't listen to them again... ever

frank why are you apologizing he's just trying to annoy you on purpose.

Hey Q, I am not annoyed at all, this is actually fun for me. I just trying to understand his point, but it still isn't quite clear...It seems to keep changing, like what Jess just said a few posts ago.

yes but that should be reserved for the Leslie Gore thread... its really out of place in this discussion.


OK. But it's the reason I found this site.

The guy is just trying to get attention.

I suggest we close this thread before there's more fights.  :-\\


naw someone delivered him as my birthday gift and I'm going to enjoy it while I can!!!  ;D

so don't listen to them again... ever

Now there's a thought!

Of course it's OK that you hate the song. That's fine. I don't like rap music, I don't like the New York Yankees. Everyone here doesn't like something.
But just because I don't like rap music or the Yankees, doesn't mean everyone else has to hate it.



I INSIST YOU RETHINK YOUR POSITION ON THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS THE NY YANKEES.... AND RAP!!!  :P

Hey Q, I am not annoyed at all, this is actually fun for me. I just trying to understand his point, but it still isn't quite clear...It seems to keep changing, like what Jess just said a few posts ago.


Hmmmm...I started here on a thread about "worst songs of the 60s". I would also like to talk about the possibility of standing apart from pop culture and looking at it critically.

I googled the name he gave.  I wonder if this is the same Michael Scarpitti/Tre Arrow that's wanted by the FBI for ecoterrorism. :D


ha ha!! could we be that lucky?

I hate reality shows and modern music, does that count?

I hated that song and the other one...Judy's Turn to Cry. The songs paint her a stupid immature brat who has no consideration for other people or their feelings.


So just because you have a beef against Lesley Gore you have to put yourself through our scrutiny.  Well, you got it.  If you'll notice most songs of the 50's and early 60's portray a sense of innocence and teen emotion.  Based on your severe disliking of that one can only assume you are analyzing based on today's modern "Pop Culture" standards.  It's basically the same thing as as some Emo kid saying 80's New Wave is stupid and cheesy.

Rejection is personal choice, realizing that "this isn't my cup of tea". Denunciation is public statement. Personally, I don't care what other people do or listen to. I just don't like it when they intrude with their lack of courtesy, blasting rap on their car stereos.


you made the choice...and you publicly  announced it here.... I fail to see the difference

I INSIST YOU RETHINK YOUR POSITION ON THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS THE NY YANKEES.... AND RAP!!!  :P


I didn't know who Jon and Kate were...or whatever their names are. I kept seeing their names on the covers of magazines at the checkout. I had to ask who they were.

Both have always gone hand and hand.  Take for example the Ford Model T and it's impact on a whole generation.  You can't have one without the other.  Going back further Mozart played and composed on only the latest instruments of his day.


oooh score one for Reynolds!!!  :)

you made the choice...and you publicly  announced it here.... I fail to see the difference


I wanted to discuss it and see if there are others who feel the same way. is that not what a discussion group is for?

So just because you have a beef against Lesley Gore you have to put yourself through our scrutiny.  Well, you got it.  If you'll notice most songs of the 50's and early 60's portray a sense of innocence and teen emotion.  Based on your severe disliking of that one can only assume you are analyzing based on today's modern "Pop Culture" standards.  It's basically the same thing as as some Emo kid saying 80's New Wave is stupid and cheesy.


What exactly are "emo" kids? I keep hearing the term.

I was hoping to find some folks who, like me, don't care for the music they grew up with, as if simply because that's what was around us we should be expected to like it.


then perhaps you could have started a thread in More Than a Decade titled... "Anyone else not like the music they grew up with?"  That's way different than this whole Opting out of Pop Culture topic... and I guarantee you would have gotten a far different outcome to that topic.

I INSIST YOU RETHINK YOUR POSITION ON THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS THE NY YANKEES.... AND RAP!!!  :P

Maybe I should write a rap song about the Yankees..hmm...
It might be #1. Maybe I can get Leslie Gore to sing it for me.

then perhaps you could have started a thread in More Than a Decade titled... "Anyone else not like the music they grew up with?"  That's way different than this whole Opting out of Pop Culture topic... and I guarantee you would have gotten a far different outcome to that topic.



Well there's more to it than that. Yes, that could be a tread in itself, but what about "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"

Well there's more to it than that. Yes, that could be a tread in itself, but what about "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"

You could have posted that as well.

So just because you have a beef against Lesley Gore you have to put yourself through our scrutiny.  Well, you got it.  If you'll notice most songs of the 50's and early 60's portray a sense of innocence and teen emotion.  Based on your severe disliking of that one can only assume you are analyzing based on today's modern "Pop Culture" standards.  It's basically the same thing as as some Emo kid saying 80's New Wave is stupid and cheesy.


I know this much is true....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYb83KM4at4

You could have posted that as well.


Well that's this thread, in other words...

Well the primitive humans had stone chisels...that limited their culture greatly.


but wasnt that the start of the advancement of the culture.

Uhmmm...they're related.


so pop culture is only about leslie gore songs?

I know this much is true....


You also know how to chop up a perfectly good Spandu Ballet song too.  http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/cray.gif

but wasnt that the start of the advancement of the culture.


Yes, but what I'm trying to say that material culture and non-material culture are distinct.

Hey Q, I am not annoyed at all, this is actually fun for me. I just trying to understand his point, but it still isn't quite clear...It seems to keep changing, like what Jess just said a few posts ago.


well yes because he wants you think he's smart but has problems making his point, sticking to his topic...and well...basically formulating concrete  ideas.

You also know how to chop up a perfectly good Spandu Ballet song too.  http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/cray.gif


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYb83KM4at4

OK. But it's the reason I found this site.


this pop culture site?  ::)

well yes because he wants you think he's smart but has problems making his point, sticking to his topic...and well...basically formulating concrete  ideas.


No, just trying to deal with misinterpretations.

this pop culture site?  ::)


Yes, I stumbled upon it doing a search.

Hmmmm...I started here on a thread about "worst songs of the 60s". I would also like to talk about the possibility of standing apart from pop culture and looking at it critically.


pop culture is ingrained in our society... US more so than any other nation... so we can't stand apart from it... and that's not what you said in your original post...if that's what you wanted to do you should have said that to begin with.

I hate reality shows and modern music, does that count?


yes, yes...because you don't like those things you must now reject pop culture altogether!

Well that's this thread, in other words...

Not quite:, your original post was

"Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?  Isn't there anyone else out there who just wants nothing to do with pop culture?"

That's different than "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"

pop culture is ingrained in our society... US more so than any other nation... so we can't stand apart from it... and that's not what you said in your original post...if that's what you wanted to do you should have said that to begin with.


LOL well I'm trying, and yes it is very ingrained here.

I didn't know who Jon and Kate were...or whatever their names are. I kept seeing their names on the covers of magazines at the checkout. I had to ask who they were.


The post you quoted was not meant for you!

Not quite:, your original post was

"Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?  Isn't there anyone else out there who just wants nothing to do with pop culture?"

That's different than "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"



Yes, it's grander in scope.

I didn't know who Jon and Kate were...or whatever their names are. I kept seeing their names on the covers of magazines at the checkout. I had to ask who they were.


and... good for you not knowing Jon and Kate... funny how you spelled Jon's name right...  consider yourself lucky on that front.. but they are a part of the pop culture explosion they do not define it!!!

I wanted to discuss it and see if there are others who feel the same way. is that not what a discussion group is for?


have you found anyone here who feels the same way yet?

Maybe I should write a rap song about the Yankees..hmm...
It might be #1. Maybe I can get Leslie Gore to sing it for me.


I'd buy it!!!

I understand how you feel, but everyone is different. I also don't play computer games, but I don't mind if others play. I don't even have a cell phone, I don't have cable, I have not gone to see a movie in a theater for 12 years. This is my choice of how I want to live.

I can't say I am renouncing pop culture as there are still some good things in pop culture, whether the 50s, 60s, 80s or today.
If you want to renounce pop culture, please go ahead.  There are more things I don't like about this present world than pop culture, like the lack of respect among people, the loss of integrity in many people, and the decline in morals standards over the last few decades.


Society appears to have lost 'class' and most of its manners and respect for anyone different from the mainstream....

Well there's more to it than that. Yes, that could be a tread in itself, but what about "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"


why make it about the culture as a whole?  I mean really you said you came to complain about music why not keep it about music..

and the way you worded that topic I would have jumped on it too because the broad use of culture leaves it far too open to interpretation...
basically its worded like a potentially racist thread.

Too late now....

It's been lovely, but I must go do housewifely things now.


but its my birthday... you were supposed to stay and play!

You could have posted that as well.

nope...it sounds racist.

Yes, but what I'm trying to say that material culture and non-material culture are distinct.


not really what you've been saying but whatever...

nope...it sounds racist.


What sounds racist...I haven't seen anything like that here so far!  :o

Yes, I stumbled upon it doing a search.


say that one more time in case the people  in the back of the room didn't hear you....you've only mentioned it 5 times so far.

Not quite:, your original post was

"Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?  Isn't there anyone else out there who just wants nothing to do with pop culture?"

That's different than "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"



franks treading into the deep end...come on frank the waters fine!

nope...it sounds racist.

I didn't interpret it in a racist way, I guess it depends how you interpret the word "culture" . But I get what you mean.
Thanks.

A more appropriate titlle might have been "Anyone else not like the pop culture they grew up with?"

Society appears to have lost 'class' and most of its manners and respect for anyone different from the mainstream....


yes we have... your point  ;)

We take a break from this regular scheduled draw out argument to bring you pop culture at it's finest!!!   :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-OTQmVOqJU

Had to break the monotony.

franks treading into the deep end...come on frank the waters fine!

Huh?

What sounds racist...I haven't seen anything like that here so far!  :o


its the way he said anyone hate culture... or something like that... I should say it sets up racist responses 

What sounds racist...I haven't seen anything like that here so far!  :o


its about page 8.... btw I didn't say it was racist just sounds open to racist interpretation.

its the way he said anyone hate culture... or something like that... I should say it sets up racist responses 


I think that may be drawing a long bow..... ::)

We take a break from this regular scheduled draw out argument to bring you pop culture at it's finest!!!   :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-OTQmVOqJU

Had to break the monotony.


Love this song.

don't like many other Bing songs though

and why is his name now a search engine?  Does anyone here use bing?

I think that may be drawing a long bow..... ::)

gotta agree with snoz (that's how many times today?)
It could sound racist depending on how you interpret the word "culture"
But I don't think he intended it to be.

However, if you just read the title for the first time...

Love this song.

don't like many other Bing songs though

It's a beautiful song. One of the nicest X'mas songs.  Thanks for posting Kathie!

I think that may be drawing a long bow..... ::)


not really... culture in the broad sense is about people from all walks of life... anyone hate culture? that could mean anything.

could also mean that he hates civilized society perhaps he wants to eat off the ground and pick his butt and speak in grunts...

like I said its open to a broad spectrum of interpretation...my initial thought was one of various races and their cultures... can't help how I read it if its left open like that....

gotta agree with snoz (that's how many times today?)
It could sound racist depending on how you interpret the word "culture"
But I don't think he intended it to be.

However, if you just read the title for the first time...


thank you frank... I'm marking this date on my calendar...

or yogurt and growing things in dishes

and why is his name now a search engine?  Does anyone here use bing?

actually never heard of bing till just now

actually never heard of bing till just now


Apparently its a 'decision engine' but it never works for me like it does in the adverts.  :-\\

Apparently its a 'decision engine' but it never works for me like it does in the adverts.  :-\\


hmmm well this has been fun...but I'm missing Amazing Race... gotta go!

not really... culture in the broad sense is about people from all walks of life... anyone hate culture? that could mean anything.

could also mean that he hates civilized society perhaps he wants to eat off the ground and pick his butt and speak in grunts...

like I said its open to a broad spectrum of interpretation...my initial thought was one of various races and their cultures... can't help how I read it if its left open like that....



...but it distinctly states 'pop culture'...which (let's face it) can be fun, nostalgic but has unfortunately become so dominant that it it is watering down society and has too great a significance in determining what is important to may of our younger people IMO.

actually never heard of bing till just now

I don't use like & use bing. I stay with google.

...but it distinctly states 'pop culture'...which (let's face it) can be fun, nostalgic but has unfortunately become so dominant that it it is watering down society and has too great a significance in determining what is important to may of our younger people IMO.

I think the thread Q was responding to was
"Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"
It did not mention the word "pop culture", just culture. That's what she had an issue with, and I agree with her (I have to stop saying that!)

I think the thread Q was responding to was
"Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"
It did not mention the word "pop culture", just culture. That's what she had an issue with, and I agree with her (I have to stop saying that!)


So was that the original name of this thread or is there another thread somewhere?  ....and, yes, the word 'culture' by itself could be used in a number of difference ways...and therefore misused!

So was that the original name of this thread or is there another thread somewhere?  ....and, yes, the word 'culture' by itself could be used in a number of difference ways...and therefore misused!

It wasn't the original thread, it was posted in a comment somewhere in the middle, post #113

It wasn't the original thread, it was posted in a comment somewhere in the middle, post #113



Thanks Frank...

its the way he said anyone hate culture... or something like that... I should say it sets up racist responses 


Huh? Where did this come from?

so pop culture is only about leslie gore songs?


Lesley. Yeah, I thought it was "Leslie" too, but it's Lesley.

have you found anyone here who feels the same way yet?


I believe so.

why make it about the culture as a whole?  I mean really you said you came to complain about music why not keep it about music..

and the way you worded that topic I would have jumped on it too because the broad use of culture leaves it far too open to interpretation...
basically its worded like a potentially racist thread.


This is hialarious. No, I didn't like Rosemary Clooney or Doris Day either.

Huh? Where did this come from?


You said


Well there's more to it than that. Yes, that could be a tread in itself, but what about "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"


And the discussion went on with whether culture here means pop culture only or culture as it relates to race/religion and the way you are brought up within your family shaped by these things.

say that one more time in case the people  in the back of the room didn't hear you....you've only mentioned it 5 times so far.


Well it appears some didn't understand.

not really... culture in the broad sense is about people from all walks of life... anyone hate culture? that could mean anything.

could also mean that he hates civilized society perhaps he wants to eat off the ground and pick his butt and speak in grunts...

like I said its open to a broad spectrum of interpretation...my initial thought was one of various races and their cultures... can't help how I read it if its left open like that....



OK, I am thoroughly unimpressed with American pop culture. That's what I am talking about.

I have basically the same stance as do the guys who do South Park. Before you jump all over me, be aware that SP is all about sending up pop culture.

...but it distinctly states 'pop culture'...which (let's face it) can be fun, nostalgic but has unfortunately become so dominant that it it is watering down society and has too great a significance in determining what is important to may of our younger people IMO.


BINGO! We have a winner!

This is hialarious. No, I didn't like Rosemary Clooney or Doris Day either.


Who's Rosemary Clooney?

So was that the original name of this thread or is there another thread somewhere?  ....and, yes, the word 'culture' by itself could be used in a number of difference ways...and therefore misused!


I meant "pop culture" of course.

;D

Who's Rosemary Clooney?


LOL

This is hialarious. No, I didn't like Rosemary Clooney or Doris Day either.

I like Doris Day ( her songs and films)

You said

And the discussion went on with whether culture here means pop culture only or culture as it relates to race/religion and the way you are brought up within your family shaped by these things.



OK, in high school I didn't go to the prom. I thought it was stupid.

No Longer Boomer, I think people are so afraid of thinking for themselves or being laughed at that they choose to accept crap music that's out right now. Same thing with the annoyingly sweet 1950's you don't much care for.

But I disagree with you on the 1960's music though, I think it rocks!

Same thing with crap movies they come out now. People are afraid to disagree. I'm 21 and think today's movies/tv are crap. Why do people want to watch this crap?

Hi, welcome and all that.
That being said...



I really have trouble with the acceptance of "pop culture" as being our "culture". I have never been particularly fond of my generation (Baby Boomers) and I resent being classified as being one of the "Woodstock Generation". It seems that "rock" music in one form or another is the "norm". Have you heard about any young music performers who reject that genre?

How about the tennis player Andy Murray, who was dumped by his girlfriend because he spend 7 hours a day playing video games?

http://www.ripten.com/2009/12/05/world-4th-ranked-pro-tennis-player-dumped-over-7-hour-a-day-modern-warfare-2-addiction/

I have played video games once in my life, and do not see the point. At all. Is there anyone who wants to join me in renouncing popular culture as a way of life?

Isn't there anyone else out there who just wants nothing to do with pop culture?


To denounce pop culture is to denounce history.
And likewise, you apparently don't like yourself very much either. I mean really, if you look at it, you denounce everything that has brought you to this point in your life. If it weren't for pop culture or history, I wonder what basis you would have to compare today against a time in the past. ::)


Well there's a first time for everything. LOL

And by the way, "rejection" is not denunciation. If other people want to be part of pop culture...fine with me. I think it's funny how stupid the people who market things are.


denounce:
–verb (used with object), -nounced, -nounc⋅ing.
1. to condemn or censure openly or publicly: to denounce a politician as morally corrupt.
2. to make a formal accusation against, as to the police or in a court.
3. to give formal notice of the termination or denial of (a treaty, pact, agreement, or the like).
4. Archaic. to announce or proclaim, esp. as something evil or calamitous.
5. Obsolete. to portend.

reject:
–verb (used with object)
1. to refuse to have, take, recognize, etc.: to reject the offer of a better job.
2. to refuse to grant (a request, demand, etc.).
3. to refuse to accept (someone or something); rebuff: The other children rejected him. The publisher rejected the author's latest novel.
4. to discard as useless or unsatisfactory: The mind rejects painful memories.
5. to cast out or eject; vomit.
6. to cast out or off.

Pretty similar to me. And the thing I notice the most out of your post is that you call others stupid because they market to what society wants. You are singular in your dislike of pop culture, so to state that market researchers are stupid, shows your lack of knowledge in the field.


Just examine the commercials you see and see how they characterize people....how they mold you subconsciously and assume you fit into their marketing demographic. Everything is demographics. Everything.


Holy crap! I must have erectile dysfunction while I sit here eating McDonald's and examining myself in a mirror wondering if I need NuvaRing or if I need to get electrolysis! Apparently I don't have a mind of my own and I allow the tv to actually mold my mind and hypnotize me into believing all of that!


Rejection is personal choice, realizing that "this isn't my cup of tea". Denunciation is public statement. Personally, I don't care what other people do or listen to. I just don't like it when they intrude with their lack of courtesy, blasting rap on their car stereos.


Dude! You are publicly rejecting on an internet forum. Thus making it one and the same! And apparently you do care what other people do or listen to or else you wouldn't have said "Blasting Rap on Their Car Stereos". Please make up your mind...


OK, I am thoroughly unimpressed with American pop culture. That's what I am talking about.

I have basically the same stance as do the guys who do South Park. Before you jump all over me, be aware that SP is all about sending up pop culture.


::)

OK, in high school I didn't go to the prom. I thought it was stupid.


I didn't go to mine either....

No Longer Boomer, I think people are so afraid of thinking for themselves or being laughed at that they choose to accept crap music that's out right now. Same thing with the annoyingly sweet 1950's you don't much care for.

But I disagree with you on the 1960's music though, I think it rocks!

Same thing with crap movies they come out now. People are afraid to disagree. I'm 21 and think today's movies/tv are crap. Why do people want to watch this crap?



I have walked out on so many movies....I finally almost quit going. Anything with Tom Cruise, Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman, I am beginning to loathe most of these actors and actresses...

So many are just garbage...the Saw movies...I won't go into a theatre that's playing a Saw movie, not even to see another film playing at that theatre.

Saw "Closer" a few years ago...total garbage.

Worst movie of all time: Rent
Another piece of junk: The Fountain.

I have walked out on so many movies....I finally almost quit going. Anything with Tom Cruise, Meryl Streep, Dustin Hoffman, I am beginning to loathe most of these actors and actresses...

So many are just garbage...the Saw movies...I won't go into a theatre that's playing a Saw movie, not even to see another film playing at that theatre.

Saw "Closer" a few years ago...total garbage.

Worst movie of all time: Rent
Another piece of junk: The Fountain.

You seem bitter at the world.

Calm down...the title says nothing about worshipping pop culture.


  This is exactly right.  It's popular culture information.  I suppose the alternative would be "counterculture" or "subculture"  A dissenting opinion is certainly acceptable if not somewhat rare around these parts...

  I'm deleting all the flames.  Be nice to the noob, all... >:(

  Welcome to the board No Longer Boomer...

   

I didn't go to mine either....

It's OK, I went to yours and took your place. ;)

OK, in high school I didn't go to the prom. I thought it was stupid.


and that relates to my post how?

Hi, welcome and all that.
That being said...


To denounce pop culture is to denounce history.
And likewise, you apparently don't like yourself very much either. I mean really, if you look at it, you denounce everything that has brought you to this point in your life. If it weren't for pop culture or history, I wonder what basis you would have to compare today against a time in the past. ::)

denounce:
–verb (used with object), -nounced, -nounc⋅ing.
1. to condemn or censure openly or publicly: to denounce a politician as morally corrupt.
2. to make a formal accusation against, as to the police or in a court.
3. to give formal notice of the termination or denial of (a treaty, pact, agreement, or the like).
4. Archaic. to announce or proclaim, esp. as something evil or calamitous.
5. Obsolete. to portend.

reject:
–verb (used with object)
1. to refuse to have, take, recognize, etc.: to reject the offer of a better job.
2. to refuse to grant (a request, demand, etc.).
3. to refuse to accept (someone or something); rebuff: The other children rejected him. The publisher rejected the author's latest novel.
4. to discard as useless or unsatisfactory: The mind rejects painful memories.
5. to cast out or eject; vomit.
6. to cast out or off.

Pretty similar to me. And the thing I notice the most out of your post is that you call others stupid because they market to what society wants. You are singular in your dislike of pop culture, so to state that market researchers are stupid, shows your lack of knowledge in the field.

Holy crap! I must have erectile dysfunction while I sit here eating McDonald's and examining myself in a mirror wondering if I need NuvaRing or if I need to get electrolysis! Apparently I don't have a mind of my own and I allow the tv to actually mold my mind and hypnotize me into believing all of that!

Dude! You are publicly rejecting on an internet forum. Thus making it one and the same! And apparently you do care what other people do or listen to or else you wouldn't have said "Blasting Rap on Their Car Stereos". Please make up your mind...

::)


"Rejection" is not the same as "denunciation". The difference is subtle, but clear enough to warrant the use of separate words. If I reject something it is not necessary to let anyone else know. A core meaning of "denunciation" is obvious in its clear ties to "announce".

Main Entry:denounce
Pronunciation:d**na*n(t)s, d**-
Function:transitive verb
Inflected Form:-ed/-ing/-s
Etymology:Middle English denouncen, denounsen, from Old French denoncier to proclaim, pronounce, announce, from Latin denuntiare, from de- + nuntiare to report, announce, from nuntius messenger

1 : to pronounce (as a person, idea, course of conduct, political philosophy) to be blameworthy or evil : stigmatize or charge especially publicly, unequivocally, and indignantly : inveigh against publicly *denounced this perversion of his teaching with justifiable indignation W.R.Inge* *denounce the menaced proprietors as enemies of mankind G.B.Shaw*
2 archaic  : to announce publicly and formally or solemnly;  sometimes  : to declare or publish (something calamitous)
3 : to inform against : declare or make known (as a culprit) to authorities *denounced the conspirators to the authorities*
4 a obsolete  : to indicate by or as if by omen : PORTEND, AUGUR  b archaic  : to announce (as punishment, judgment, or other impending evil) in a warning or threatening manner
5 : to proclaim formally and publicly the termination of (as a treaty, truce, pact) *denounced the arrangement with their former ally*
6 Mexican law  : to offer for record legal notice of a claim for a mining concession covering (a described area of land the mining rights for which are held by the government)
synonyms see CRITICIZE

Re: Opting out of pop culture
« Reply #268 on: Today at 21:26:12 »

But that wasn't the issue! It was people saying that I said "culture" not "pop culture"!!!!


because we were talking about what the response could have been had you started a thread titled


Well there's more to it than that.
Yes, that could be a tread in itself, but what about "Anyone else not like the culture they grew up with?"

Thread Recap:

Dude shows up, says he doesn't like pop culture, but 16^H7 pages later, he's talking about which TV shows he enjoyed, which music he enjoys, and which books he reads.

What we just did was one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read.  At no time in this rambling, incoherent thread were we even close to anything that could be considered a rational discussion.  Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having participated in it.  I award us no points, and may Billy Madison have mercy on our souls.


  Come to think of it, most threads on this entire board aren't close to anything that could be considered a rational discussion, but...you know...I assume people aren't here preparing their master's thesis...

  Profuse "pokes" all around... :P

That is a smaller part of the whole...the whole that this thread is about.


you really just can't accept that they are two separate things can you?

this thread vs  that post.

  Come to think of it, most threads on this entire board aren't close to anything that could be considered a rational discussion, but...you know...I assume people aren't here preparing their master's thesis...

  Profuse "pokes" all around... :P


;D  not me... I'm just making the most out of my birthday entertainment.  ;D

19 PAGES in 6 hours? Oh boy, this ain't good. lol

Ant

because we were talking about what the response could have been had you started a thread titled



But that thread does not exist. What was said in my reply was all I had to say on that, since the thread was never created. I cannot say any more on that since it was never created. Asked and answered, no more was said on that.

But that thread does not exist. What was said in my reply was all I had to say on that, since the thread was never created.



this may require more brain power than you are capable of and it may hurt a bit... but its hypothetical...  based on a comment you yourself made.







because we were talking about what the response COULD HAVE BEEN    HAD YOU STARTED  a thread titled

this may require more brain power than you are capable of and it may hurt a bit... but its hypothetical... 

because we were talking about what the response COULD HAVE BEEN    HAD YOU STARTED  a thread titled



Yes, and I said all I had to say on that! Then I went back to this thread and that's what I intend to continue doing.

How can I answer unmade responses to hypothetical threads?

Yes, and I said all I had to say on that!


then finallly we agree on one thing...

then finallly we agree on one thing...


Right, I did not want to continue on that vein.

Right, I did not want to continue on that vein.


and it was such a simple concept.

and it was such a simple concept.


Yes, but I wanted to discuss more than just not liking the music you grew up with, because there's more to it: what I want to talk about includes but is not limited to that. I agreed with you that I could have done that, but I didn't do that. We can discuss that as part of this thread if you wish.

Yes, but I wanted to discuss more than just not liking the music you grew up with, because there's more to it: what I want to talk about includes but is not limited to that.


ah but see that the beauty of this site...rather than just blatantly blasting pop culture as a whole you could have started a thread about music,
one about TV, one about movies and one about cavemen and their chisels..... you could've talked in circles to your hearts content and flown far below the radar that way...

ah but see that the beauty of this site...rather than just blatantly blasting pop culture as a whole you could have started a thread about music,
one about TV, one about movies and one about cavemen and their chisels..... you could've talked in circles to your hearts content and flown far below the radar that way...


But I didn't and don't want to...

Yes, but I wanted to discuss more than just not liking the music you grew up with, because there's more to it: what I want to talk about includes but is not limited to that. I agreed with you that I could have done that, but I didn't do that. We can discuss that as part of this thread if you wish.


naw I'm pretty much done talking to you... you are thicker than a brick wall and don't want to discuss you just want to tell everyone why you are right and they are wrong.

its pretty boring watching you hop from one tangent to the next with no congruent segue

naw I'm pretty much done talking to you... you are thicker than a brick wall and don't want to discuss you just want to tell everyone why you are right and they are wrong.

its pretty boring watching you hop from one tangent to the next with no congruent segue


Huh? What's confusing?

Is there anyone else out there who finds American popular culture lame, as I do? That is the question posed by the thread.

I always have, since I was a kid. That was the point.

Movies were good for a while in the 80s, then back into the abyss again.

I love you, Foo.  And now I will quit replying directly to that person because you have given me new perspective.


http://7.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ku76ccA75A1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg

Oh, great, you let him win :)


Well some of the greatest films were made very early on....particularly in Germany.


/ticks off the Godwin square.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6251/roflbotidoe.jpg

//and the Bingo Card sqaure.

Of course pop culture is lame.  If it weren't lame, we wouldn't all participate in it.  It's light fluffy stuff, it's mentally contagious, it's memetic candy, and our brains just love reproducing it.  That's what it's for.  In some ways, the lamer and fluffier it is, the better.  Even if you don't enjoy a particular brand of lameness, you can admire it for its superb engineering.  It's cultural literacy - and the Internet makes cross-cultural literacy a lot easier than it used to be.  How many people under 40 would ever know who Orson Welles was without seeing the animated .gif of him applauding?

....and so the story ends as it always does. The happy little band moves merrily down the familiar track. No one died and all lived happily ever after.

Meanwhile, elsewhere on the boards the LTE grows jealous of all those lost posts temporarily diverted to this meaningless discussion.. ::) ;)

http://7.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ku76ccA75A1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg

Oh, great, you let him win :)

/ticks off the Godwin square.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6251/roflbotidoe.jpg

//and the Bingo Card sqaure.


;D

I think you can also check off the "Get off my lawn" square.

I think you can also check off the "Get off my lawn" square.


http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/7/16/633518421146213483-seriously---get-off-my-lawn---motivational-army-poster.jpg

Two for the price of one!

I haven't the stomach to go through the entire thread; for all I know we hit BINGO on page 10, but this oughta help.  I'm sure there's a strawman or two over there, and the motivational poster was really all that was missing for the vertical stripe under the "I".

Why are you so stuck on bitching about "Pop Culture sterotypes?  I don't like most of today's stuff either however I don't go out an a rampage and denounce everything.  American pop culture is not just about today or youth.  It's about life in American in general.  It has it's good points and bad.  Question ~ I happen to like the Twilight series and the Monkees and I'm a Civil War buff who happens to like philosophy, now am I a slave to pop culture?  Have I sold out because I happen to actually like something that main stream culture finds appealing? 

Good point! Well thought out.

I think I said before, I didn't have to opt out.  I just lost interest and it withered on the vine.  I don't know who's who or why who did what to who or why it matters...and I just don't find a reason, no matter how trivial, to find out.  Sometimes I pick up on a thing or two from a scandal or just a thread on this site.  Otherwise, pop culture just flies past in a blur.

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_shaking.gif

I think I said before, I didn't have to opt out.  I just lost interest and it withered on the vine.  I don't know who's who or why who did what to who or why it matters...and I just don't find a reason, no matter how trivial, to find out.  Sometimes I pick up on a thing or two from a scandal or just a thread on this site.  Otherwise, pop culture just flies past in a blur.

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_shaking.gif


However you put it, it seems we're basically the same.

I think I said before, I didn't have to opt out.  I just lost interest and it withered on the vine.  I don't know who's who or why who did what to who or why it matters...and I just don't find a reason, no matter how trivial, to find out.  Sometimes I pick up on a thing or two from a scandal or just a thread on this site.  Otherwise, pop culture just flies past in a blur.

http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/13/icon_shaking.gif


When did you opt out of pop culture?

When did you opt out of pop culture?


I think many have got "pop culture fatigue"; it no longer amuses them to try to "keep up". There are too many TV shows, too many celebrities, too many bands, too many books and movies. After a while, yes, it becomes a blur.

I think many have got "pop culture fatigue"; it no longer amuses them to try to "keep up". There are too many TV shows, too many celebrities, too many bands, too many books and movies. After a while, yes, it becomes a blur.


Agreed!

Agreed!



After a while it dawns on them: who gives a damn about Britney or Madonna or Sean Penn? How is this affecting my life, one way or the other? Why spend the time and mental energy? I find it rather gratifying not to know about many things in pop culture, to say "Who?" when somebody drops a name that everyone is supposed to know. It's really rather sad to find a 64-year-old woman (my buddy's girlfriend) who keeps up with all the movies and celebrity gossip. She has a wall full of DVDs. The entire extent of her existence is wrapped up in movies and to a lesser degree, celebrities. I sit and listen to her and her friends talk and my jaw just drops (and not in a good way).

Sad and pathetic.

After a while it dawns on them: who gives a damn about Britney or Madonna or Sean Penn? How is this affecting my life, one way or the other? Why spend the time and mental energy?


I care about Madonna and Sean Penn, but not Britney!  ;D

No, but seriolusly, I see nothing wrong with following a celebrity because you like them, not because everyone say you have to like them.

I follow Eminem, but some of my friends don't like him so they don't follow him.

I care about Madonna and Sean Penn, but not Britney!  ;D

No, but seriolusly, I see nothing wrong with following a celebrity because you like them, not because everyone say you have to like them.

I follow Eminem, but some of my friends don't like him so they don't follow him.



Why do you "care" about them?

I find it rather gratifying not to know about many things in pop culture, to say "Who?" when somebody drops a name that everyone is supposed to know (even if I do know who it is; I enjoy the reaction I get from people when I act like I don't know). I don't read People or any of those magazines, or Rolling Stone.

It's really rather sad to find a 64-year-old woman (my buddy's girlfriend) who keeps up with all the movies and celebrity gossip. She has a wall full of DVDs. The entire extent of her existence is wrapped up in movies and to a lesser degree, celebrities. I sit and listen to her and her friends talk and my jaw just drops (and not in a good way).

Sad and pathetic.

The real tragedy is that she is an intelligent woman, it's just that what she chooses to focus on is so shallow and pathetic.

Why do you "care" about them?

I find it rather gratifying not to know about many things in pop culture, to say "Who?" when somebody drops a name that everyone is supposed to know. It's really rather sad to find a 64-year-old woman (my buddy's girlfriend) who keeps up with all the movies and celebrity gossip. She has a wall full of DVDs. The entire extent of her existence is wrapped up in movies and to a lesser degree, celebrities. I sit and listen to her and her friends talk and my jaw just drops (and not in a good way).

Sad and pathetic.


No Longer Boomer, I don't care about 80% of celebrities. I meant it when I said I cared about Madonna, Sean Penn, and Eminem.

Boomer, I care about Eminem because he can rap good. Rap is an art IMO.
I care about Sean Penn because he's one of my favorite actors, not because he's POPULAR.
And I care about Madonna because I find her amusing and she gives me a good laugh.

Boomer, people like different things and if you don't like the 60's then "to each his own".

But just because you don't like the 60's doesn't mean I don't.

But then again I'm jumping to conclusions aren't I, you never forced me to dislike the 60's did you?

Boomer, people like different things and if you don't like the 60's then "to each his own".

But just because you don't like the 60's doesn't mean I don't.

But then again I'm jumping to conclusions aren't I, you never forced me to dislike the 60's did you?



I haven't liked much of anything since I was 2. LOL

Sean Penn, a good actor? Then you haven't seen his remake of All The King's Men, have you?

I haven't liked much of anything since I was 2. LOL

Sean Penn, a good actor? Then you haven't seen his remake of All The King's Men, have you?


You just gave yourself away with that one.

You just gave yourself away with that one.


I had free passes and went with friends. I would not have gone otherwise. I hated it.

Mmmmhmmmm.....

You just gave yourself away with that one.


It cracks me up when I hear people say that:

Ansel Adams is a good photographer
Meryl Streep is a good actress
David Bowie or David Byrne is a good musician
Roger Federer is a good tennis player

I could go on, but you get the drift...

Mmmmhmmmm.....


Don't you just adore the shaky hand-held camera technique? Isn't so clever?

Oh, and how about super-widescreen format? Great for movies about snakes and submarines, I suppose.

Notice all the wasted space on the sides of the frame, while the tops of the heads are cut off in the extreme close ups. Why am I looking at out-of-focus air?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye8kZQ61Oxg

I could go on, but you get the drift...


Do you own a monocle?


Don't you just adore the shaky hand-held camera technique? Isn't so clever?


I wouldn't know.  I haven't seen it.

Do you own a monocle?

I wouldn't know.  I haven't seen it.


It's everywhere, in commercials and movies and TV, along with the focus pulling and clever positioning on the screen.

I haven't liked much of anything since I was 2. LOL

Sean Penn, a good actor? Then you haven't seen his remake of All The King's Men, have you?


You know, this is where you start to piss me off.
80sfan stated what he likes and dislikes, and because he likes something you obviously don't, you criticize his taste.
You can say that isn't what you have done - but you have.
You insulted a lot of people on this board as well, myself included, because of your rant about a 64 year old woman who is into celebrity info, movies and other such "sad and pathetic" things.

Get with the program. I am allowed to be different from you and I am allowed to have different interests. I don't slam you because of your interests. Instead, I now slam you because of your gross interpretation that anyone who is into pop culture must be pathetic losers with no life or no ability to judge of what is good or bad.

I chose last night not to continue on this thread, because Jess and Foo had it right - but today is a new day and you Sir, finally managed to get under my skin.
You can have all the opinions you want and it doesn't bother me one single bit, but when you decide that your way is the only way... you will learn that on this forum, that shyt doesn't fly. >:(


It's everywhere, in commercials and movies and TV, along with the focus pulling and clever positioning on the screen.

::)
Now I call bullshyt on this whole thread!

Do you own a monocle?


Hrrrmphhhh. I beg your pardon!

I do wear Homburgs though, and dress like this:

http://www.carnelle.com/images/homburg.jpg

You know, this is where you start to piss me off.
80sfan stated what he likes and dislikes, and because he likes something you obviously don't, you criticize his taste.
You can say that isn't what you have done - but you have.
You insulted a lot of people on this board as well, myself included, because of your rant about a 64 year old woman who is into celebrity info, movies and other such "sad and pathetic" things.

Get with the program. I am allowed to be different from you and I am allowed to have different interests. I don't slam you because of your interests. Instead, I now slam you because of your gross interpretation that anyone who is into pop culture must be pathetic losers with no life or no ability to judge of what is good or bad.

I chose last night not to continue on this thread, because Jess and Foo had it right - but today is a new day and you Sir, finally managed to get under my skin.
You can have all the opinions you want and it doesn't bother me one single bit, but when you decide that your way is the only way... you will learn that on this forum, that shyt doesn't fly. >:(
::)
Now I call bullshyt on this whole thread!


Well a lot of reviewers panned Penn's performance.

My mention of the woman was meant as an illustration that interest in pop culture is not limited to youth; that was the point. It is sad and pathetic that she has no higher-level interests by that time of her life. When I am around her at parties...all she talks about is movies. It gets tiresome, really. I would be less critical if she were 19...but she's 64.

Where are the Dickens novels?

Well a lot of reviewers panned Penn's performance.


Reviewers?
What the hell?

What reviewers? Can't be current ones right? 'Coz reviewers are a part of pop culture right? And where did you read these reviews? People? Star? Entertainment Weekly? National Enquirer?
Hypocrisy is so unbecoming. ::)

Hrrrmphhhh. I beg your pardon!

I do wear Homburgs though, and dress like this:

http://www.carnelle.com/images/homburg.jpg



I find it amusing that for someone who hates pop culture, you link to a picture of one of the most relevant pop culture movies of all time.


Well a lot of reviewers panned Penn's performance.

My mention of the woman was meant as an illustration that interest in pop culture is not limited to youth; that was the point. It is sad and pathetic that she has no higher-level interests by that time of her life.


And how do you know she doesn't?  Do you follow her around 24/7 to see what she pursues?  I read celebrity gossip sites.  I keep up slightly with celebrities.  I'm going back to school next year to start on the road to my Physics degree.  Does reading about celebrities and gossip negate my quest for higher learning?

Reviewers?
What the hell?

What reviewers? Can't be current ones right? 'Coz reviewers are a part of pop culture right? And where did you read these reviews? People? Star? Entertainment Weekly? National Enquirer?
Hypocrisy is so unbecoming. ::)


After I saw it I went online and saw a lot of negative reviews, for what that's worth. Rotten Tomato, Yahoo etc.

I find it amusing that for someone who hates pop culture, you link to a picture of one of the most relevant pop culture movies of all time.

And how do you know she doesn't?  Do you follow her around 24/7 to see what she pursues?  I read celebrity gossip sites.  I keep up slightly with celebrities.  I'm going back to school next year to start on the road to my Physics degree.  Does reading about celebrities and gossip negate my quest for higher learning?


Yes, but in The Godfather they wear such good retro clothes...I don't like the movie at all....well I do like the scene where all the rival gang guys are getting whacked while Michael's baby is being baptized.

I find it amusing that for someone who hates pop culture, you link to a picture of one of the most relevant pop culture movies of all time.

And how do you know she doesn't?  Do you follow her around 24/7 to see what she pursues?  I read celebrity gossip sites.  I keep up slightly with celebrities.  I'm going back to school next year to start on the road to my Physics degree.  Does reading about celebrities and gossip negate my quest for higher learning?


I know her well enough...her life is dominated by movies and celebrities.

It's really rather sad to find a 64-year-old woman (my buddy's girlfriend) who keeps up with all the movies and celebrity gossip. She has a wall full of DVDs. The entire extent of her existence is wrapped up in movies and to a lesser degree, celebrities. I sit and listen to her and her friends talk and my jaw just drops (and not in a good way).

Sad and pathetic.

The real tragedy is that she is an intelligent woman, it's just that what she chooses to focus on is so shallow and pathetic.

In this post you are insinuating that pretty much everyone on these boards is an idiot. This brings you pleasure in some way?
You keep repeating similar things over and over for several pages. We get it. We get you don't like pop culture.

In this post you are insinuating that pretty much everyone on these boards is an idiot.

Not at all....

After I saw it I went online and saw a lot of negative reviews, for what that's worth. Rotten Tomato, Yahoo etc.


Funny... webpages that are part of pop culture!

I was reminded that early in this thread, Jess posted a rather relevant question to you:
Why do you use the internet? Isn't it technically part of pop culture?
And like I stated before... make up your mind!
http://careymolinski.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/digging.jpg
Nevermind - you will never get out of this one now!


In this post you are insinuating that pretty much everyone on these boards is an idiot. This brings you pleasure in some way?
You keep repeating similar things over and over for several pages. We get it. We get you don't like pop culture.

You better stop right there Frank! Lord knows you are an idiot like me! ::)


Not at all....

Umm... let me show you again:



It's really rather sad to find a 64-year-old woman (my buddy's girlfriend) who keeps up with all the movies and celebrity gossip. She has a wall full of DVDs. The entire extent of her existence is wrapped up in movies and to a lesser degree, celebrities. I sit and listen to her and her friends talk and my jaw just drops (and not in a good way).

Sad and pathetic.

The real tragedy is that she is an intelligent woman, it's just that what she chooses to focus on is so shallow and pathetic.


Our members come from all walks of life here, and you have no idea our ages, races, creed or educational backgrounds. Yet you make one gross claim about a 64 year old woman - and we ALL become the sad and pathetic people you deem to be underneath you!!!!

Our members come from all walks of life here, and you have no idea our ages, races, creed or educational backgrounds. Yet you make one gross claim about a 64 year old woman - and we ALL become the sad and pathetic people you deem to be underneath you!!!!


I just expect a difference between a 19 year old a 64 year old. Don't you? If a lot of movies were good, I could be more sympathetic, but so many are just bad.

I also am not surprised by Andy Murray's girlfriend leaving him because he spends 7 hours a day playing video games.

I have a pop culture reference for you before I go pick up my kid from school:

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu210/smokinal69/ban_him.jpg

He's just trolling for reactions now anyways.  I may or may not respond later. :D

I have a pop culture reference for you before I go pick up my kid from school:

http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu210/smokinal69/ban_him.jpg

He's just trolling for reactions now anyways.  I may or may not respond later. :D


Is that from Titus? Shakespeare, no?

He's just trolling for reactions now anyways.

He's been doing that all along, At first it was fun, but now it's getting **yawn** boring. He needs to add something to his shtick soon.

He's been doing that all along, At first it was fun, but now it's getting **yawn** boring. He needs to add something to his shtick soon.


OK, here ya go...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6frHkOjgkI

Right on the shtick!

Another cute one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfp-7ujaymM

I just expect a difference between a 19 year old a 64 year old. Don't you?

I also am not surprised by Andy Murray's girlfriend leaving him because he spends 7 hours a day playing video games.


First of all... who the hell is Andy Murray??!! And why should I care?
And why do you care?
If he is the tennis player who was broke up with because of his constant playing of video games... big freakin deal!
Of course, you had to get that information from online somewhere - perhaps a gossip sight? A pop culture sight? Hahahaha!!!

Here. Have some salt for you other foot!
http://todaysseniorsnetwork.com/Salt.jpg

First of all... who the hell is Andy Murray??!! And why should I care?
And why do you care?
If he is the tennis player who was broke up with because of his constant playing of video games... big freakin deal!
Of course, you had to get that information from online somewhere - perhaps a gossip sight? A pop culture sight? Hahahaha!!!


It came up as a lead article when I signed on to Yahoo mail. Don't get me started on pro tennis players and their IQs. Please don't.

No, I don't care...I just think it confirms my opinion of pro tennis players.

I just expect a difference between a 19 year old a 64 year old. Don't you? If a lot of movies were good, I could be more sympathetic, but so many are just bad.

I also am not surprised by Andy Murray's girlfriend leaving him because he spends 7 hours a day playing video games.


No Longer Boomer, I agree with some of what you say and I disagree with some of what you say.

One thing I agree with you is that movies right now are bad and people are paying to see them. If we stop seeing these horrible movies, maybe Hollywood will up its game!

No Longer Boomer, I agree with some of what you say and I disagree with some of what you say.

One thing I agree with you is that movies right now are bad and people are paying to see them. If we stop seeing these horrible movies, maybe Hollywood will up its game!


"Hollywood" to me means "something really bad".

It came up as a lead article when I signed on to Yahoo mail. Don't get me started on pro tennis players and their IQs. Please don't.

No, I don't care...I just think it confirms my opinion of pro tennis players.


Please start.

What does the IQ of a pro tennis player have to do with anything?
And how do video games fit in there?

I await your reply with baited breath.

Please start.

What does the IQ of a pro tennis player have to do with anything?
And how do video games fit in there?

I await your reply with baited breath.


Nah, I'll pass.

Let's just say this...I used to watch pro tennis, back in the 70s. I don't any more.

*caution: explicit lyrics*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcCrn9yQO78

All I can say is WOW!!!! I come on here and find this "new" thread 22 pages long!  :o :o :o  (Don't worry Q, this thread will NOT go up on the front page.) There is something very familiar about No Longer Boomer. Could he be our very own Harmonica or some other blast from the past?




Cat

*caution: explicit lyrics*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcCrn9yQO78


I love that song.  I guess that makes me a pathetic idiot.  Still, that's better than being an asshole. ;D

Please start.

What does the IQ of a pro tennis player have to do with anything?
And how do video games fit in there?

I await your reply with baited breath.

I guess pro tennis players must be stupid. They are athletic, have healthy bodies, financial security. Who wants that. 
Tam, what were you thinking of?  :D

I guess pro tennis players must be stupid. They are athletic, have healthy bodies, financial security. Who wants that. 
Tam, what were you thinking of?  :D



LOL.

....and so the story ends as it always does. The happy little band moves merrily down the familiar track. No one died and all lived happily ever after.

Meanwhile, elsewhere on the boards the LTE grows jealous of all those lost posts temporarily diverted to this meaningless discussion.. ::) ;)


nah, the LTE is capable of recognising other legendary threads

*caution: explicit lyrics*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcCrn9yQO78


Love it ;D

I guess pro tennis players must be stupid. They are athletic, have healthy bodies, financial security. Who wants that. 
Tam, what were you thinking of?  :D



You better take me out back and teach me a lesson Frank! ;D

Have I ever told y'all that I Love Google?
Quick traces of this trolls IP proved nothing to me. No hits other than what State he is in and who his provider is...
Took the IP to do a google search and guess what I found?  ;D

I killfiled Scapitti and lately unkilled Uranium Committee to see
whether the troll had stopped harassing a multitude of newsgroups
(namely, every single populated photography newsgroup).

Apparently he/she has been harassing newsgroups for about three years.
Seems like this person is relatively tame in the tennis groups but
somewhere along the line lost his/her mind in 2002.  There are tame
messages to be found from this person on photo groups.

Some of you may know this, some may not but, Uranium Committee's posts:

Injection-Info: g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=***.**.***.***

resolves to nw.nuvox.net

Michael Scarpitti on rec.sports.tennis where he harassed the
you-know-what out of that group years before he\she attacked the photo
groups.

NNTP-Posting-Host: ***.**.***.***

Scarpitti's Posts from as early as 1999 (maybe earlier) on
rec.sports.tennis:

in otherwords, same person.  (maybe everyone knows this, again).

Scarpitti vascillated between names for a while and seems to have stuck
to Uranium Committee on September 11, 2004 for good.

Nuvox is in * SC and has been apparently allowing this person
to post (at first with his/her own news server) and then with their
news server for at least 6 years.

The ISP has been notified with a wealth of "examples" and proof of some
of the more harassing messages...


So Michael Scapitti, No Longer Boomer, Uranium Commitee, it has been a slice!
Time to hit the skids.
Hasta La Vista, Baby
Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya
Hit the road Jack

Take your trolling and shove it where the sun don't shine!
Have fun feeling this ban hammer!
:P

Boo Tam  :\'(  Spoiling our fun!

*caution: explicit lyrics*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcCrn9yQO78



I have never heard that before but I love it. Karma for posting it.




Cat

Boo Tam  :\'(  Spoiling our fun!

At least it might turn out to be a nice birthday present for Q though.  ;)

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/Nerdprincess1980/pwned.jpg

At least it might turn out to be a nice birthday present for Q though.  ;)



No I bet even now she's planning her responses to the guy.  She'll be sad that he's not here any more

No I bet even now she's planning her responses to the guy.  She'll be sad that he's not here any more

Maybe. But she did write she was pretty much done talking to him.
Talking to him was like talking to someone who really hates the New York Yankees baseball team, doesn't want anything to do with it, but yet he has a Yankees hat, T-Shirt, season's tickets and posters of Derek Jeter on his wall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiRacdl02w4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiRacdl02w4

I like the smiley faces...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiRacdl02w4


That was quite possibly the scariest thing I've ever seen.

Oh boy, this ain't good. lol

Ant


Instincts confirmed.

Ant

Who changed his avatar? ;D

Who changed his avatar? ;D

I'm not gonna part the red sea.  ;D

Who changed his avatar? ;D


I did I did!
I changed his name too!! Hahahaha!!

I did I did!
I changed his name too!! Hahahaha!!



I wish I could give you more karma.



Cat

I did I did!
I changed his name too!! Hahahaha!!


It was a choice between "No Longer a Member" or "TamHammered". I like them both.  ;D

Ant

It was a choice between "No Longer a Member" or "TamHammered". I like them both.  ;D

Ant


;D

Well now I have nothing to do until the CPAP lady comes to deliver my machine.

Am I the only one that sees the word "CRAP" at first instead of "CPAP"?

Dang. I always miss the fun. :(

I did I did!
I changed his name too!! Hahahaha!!


Have I told you how delightfully evil you are lately??? :)

what happened to his other thread about 'Emo'?  I lost one off my post count when that was deleted!  :\'( :\'( :\'( :\'( :\'(

what happened to his other thread about 'Emo'?  I lost one off my post count when that was deleted!   :\'( :\'( :\'( :\'( :\'(


Had to get rid of it girl.
But you can go ahead and post your GIYF and link again in here if you like! 8) ;D

I did I did!
I changed his name too!! Hahahaha!!


Have I told you lately that I love you? 8) ;D

Dang. I always miss the fun. :(


Then again, the fun always misses me too!  :P

Had to get rid of it girl.
But you can go ahead and post your GIYF and link again in here if you like! 8) ;D


why did it have to go?

What exactly are "emo" kids? I keep hearing the term.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo

GIYF

why did it have to go?


It didn't have to go - when I started to ban him I was going to delete all of his posts and started with his latest ones... but then I thought better of it.  8)

And he is trying his hardest to get back in.
I keep seeing his IP generate all kinds of errors for posting and sign in attempts lol

And he is trying his hardest to get back in.
I keep seeing his IP generate all kinds of errors for posting and sign in attempts lol


but he must have known he was about to get banned.

I just got a weird popup with an ip requesting my login and password saying it was from "admin".  I didn't do it but I wonder if someone is trying to hack. 

http://www.hiphopstarship.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/51t06jp8ugl_sl500_.jpg

I just got a weird popup with an ip requesting my login and password saying it was from "admin".  I didn't do it but I wonder if someone is trying to hack. 


Definitely do not enter anything into that!

I am going o look now to see if I can find anything on it. ;)

I just got a weird popup with an ip requesting my login and password saying it was from "admin".  I didn't do it but I wonder if someone is trying to hack. 


You should probably post that up on the top forums so admins can see it.

I opted out of pop culture once.  Didn't drink Mountain Dew for a week.

You should probably post that up on the top forums so admins can see it.

I opted out of pop culture once.  Didn't drink Mountain Dew for a week.


SODA :P

SODA :P


Cheese-n-Rice, Rice Cube - you LIVE in the land where it's known as 'POP'.  :P  :D

As for pop culture, I'm mostly into whatever catches my interest if not... I rarely dismiss them (used to when I was younger) and on the most part ignore it.

I love it when peeps pop into a thread, don't read much and then reply like the thread is still on topic! ;D ;D ;D

I'm aware of the drama... though chose not to be part of it.

Then again, I just made an opinion about it

Definitely do not enter anything into that!

I am going o look now to see if I can find anything on it. ;)


Wasn't planning on it.  :)


You should probably post that up on the top forums so admins can see it.


Good idea.

I love it when peeps pop into a thread, don't read much and then reply like the thread is still on topic! ;D ;D ;D


OFF TOPIC COMMENTS WILL BE DELETED!!!!!!!!  >:( >:( >:(

:D :D :D

I'm aware of the drama... though chose not to be part of it.

Then again, I just made an opinion about it


Same here.  I missed it. 

Same here.  I missed it. 




No worries. We can always start some of our own. :D

Guest
(MSIE) 02:41:03 PM Viewing the topic Opting out of pop culture.

Ooooooooooooooooooh........

No worries. We can always start some of our own. :D


Inthe00ze knowz drama.

I love it when peeps pop into a thread, don't read much and then reply like the thread is still on topic! ;D ;D ;D


Maybe when I am not so busy I'll go back and read the eleventy pages of this thread for amusement  :D

Tam opted Scarpitti out of pop culture! :o

OFF TOPIC COMMENTS WILL BE DELETED!!!!!!!!  >:( >:( >:(

:D :D :D


I try to make mine relevant so nyah. :P

Tam opted Scarpitti out of pop culture! :o


Heehee
I am so bad aren't I? lmao

I love it when peeps pop into a thread, don't read much and then reply like the thread is still on topic! ;D ;D ;D
oh yeah, and it's been like 4 years since the thread had a post  ;D

Guest
(MSIE) 03:49:14 PM Viewing the topic Opting out of pop culture.

We have a spectator. :D

http://roxcalibur.com/pix/e5745.JPG

http://roxcalibur.com/pix/e5745.JPG


You guys are just too much!  ;D

;D

Well now I have nothing to do until the CPAP lady comes to deliver my machine.

Am I the only one that sees the word "CRAP" at first instead of "CPAP"?


....and NO...you're not the only one who sees it every time!  ;D

I haven't liked much of anything since I was 2. LOL


Cause you can remember what you liked when you were 2 ???

I love it when peeps pop into a thread, don't read much and then reply like the thread is still on topic! ;D ;D ;D


Like I just did.  I missed all the damn drama.  Bring it back damn it.  I loves me a good show.  It's better than Dynasty!

hahah...I now amend my earlier post and state that I stand corrected....someone did die!  :o ;)

....and NO...you're not the only one who sees it every time!  ;D


Well, I just got my CRAP machine. ;D

I sound like Darth Vader on crack. :D

Well, I just got my CRAP machine. ;D

I sound like Darth Vader on crack. :D
"up your nose with a rubber hose"!

"up your nose with a rubber hose"!


I love your avatar, BTW.  Totally one of my favorite Christmas movies.  And it's so POP CULTURE!

And he is trying his hardest to get back in.
I keep seeing his IP generate all kinds of errors for posting and sign in attempts lol

He'll be trying for the next little while.
The TAMMER strikes again. ;)
It was fun while it lasted.

He's been doing that all along, At first it was fun, but now it's getting **yawn** boring. He needs to add something to his shtick soon.


yeah.....he's boring, repetitive, anal, and a bit of an ass...












And when I say "a bit" I mean a complete and total ass  ::)

All I can say is WOW!!!! I come on here and find this "new" thread 22 pages long!  :o :o :o  (Don't worry Q, this thread will NOT go up on the front page.) There is something very familiar about No Longer Boomer. Could he be our very own Harmonica or some other blast from the past?




Cat


YAY!


Ooh Harmonica is a good guess... did we decide Harmonica was the same as Soul Assylum cuz I totally think he's soul Assylum!







Take your trolling and shove it where the sun don't shine!
Have fun feeling this ban hammer!
:P


wow that was great but totally surprised me.. only because I was totally ignoring his posts so I didn't notice that he was banned...please ignore all my recent posts  ;D  tho none were directed at him- just the other members comments...


oh Tam.... please don't delete the thread we desperately need the post count  ;D

At least it might turn out to be a nice birthday present for Q though.  ;)



yep cheered me up loads!!!  ;D  


I WIN AGAIN!!!   ;)



No I bet even now she's planning her responses to the guy.  She'll be sad that he's not here any more



I probably would have but I decided last night I had been fully entertained.  ;)

Maybe. But she did write she was pretty much done talking to him.
Talking to him was like talking to someone who really hates the New York Yankees baseball team, doesn't want anything to do with it, but yet he has a Yankees hat, T-Shirt, season's tickets and posters of Derek Jeter on his wall.



good analogy...  ;)  I'll let the Yankee hatred slide just this once!  ;D

That was quite possibly the scariest thing I've ever seen.


I was thinking the same thing!  ;D

I did I did!
I changed his name too!! Hahahaha!!


Funny thing I saw the avatar but missed the name change until I saw the ban hammer fly!

This turning out the be a good birthday after all I love you guys!!!  :)

It was a choice between "No Longer a Member" or "TamHammered". I like them both.  ;D

Ant



Oooh TamHammered...let's use that on the next one!!!  ;D

It didn't have to go - when I started to ban him I was going to delete all of his posts and started with his latest ones... but then I thought better of it.  8)


glad you didn't..... losing this thread would've hurt a lot of us....statistically speaking  ;)

And he is trying his hardest to get back in.
I keep seeing his IP generate all kinds of errors for posting and sign in attempts lol


what a loser!  ;D

You should probably post that up on the top forums so admins can see it.

I opted out of pop culture once.  Didn't drink Mountain Dew for a week.


SHAME ON YOU!!! REPENT FOR YOUR SINS SINNER!!!  :P

I love it when peeps pop into a thread, don't read much and then reply like the thread is still on topic! ;D ;D ;D



yeah I think I mentioned in my second to last post to the arse that it happens alot around here!  ;D

Maybe when I am not so busy I'll go back and read the eleventy pages of this thread for amusement  :D



who's gonna link it into that funny threads thread we have somewhere?  ;)

good analogy...  ;)  I'll let the Yankee hatred slide just this once!  ;D

I'll let that comment slide coz it's your birthday  ;)

I'll let that comment slide coz it's your birthday  ;)


good plan!

YAY!


Ooh Harmonica is a good guess... did we decide Harmonica was the same as Soul Assylum cuz I totally think he's soul Assylum!





Yeah, they were one in the same. This guy was NOT him-but it was easy for me to make that mistake because all assholes look alike.




Cat

because all butts look alike.

Cat

...or smell the same.

...or smell the same.


so you admit you're a butt smeller.  :P

Yeah, they were one in the same. This guy was NOT him-but it was easy for me to make that mistake because all butts look alike.




Cat


if he moved or changed computers/ providers. Wouldn't the ip address change?
I'm not really sure how ip addresses work.