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Subject: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: Samwise on 03/11/09 at 6:59 pm
In the retrospective thread, a commenter named Jebusa made a good point: a lot of us (myself included) are being pretty hard on this decade. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff wrong with it. But it's not all bad! So let's take a moment to list some things we like about the 2000's, even if we can only think of a few. ;) Here are mine, in no particular order:
* The rise of the Internet. It's just beginning to wreak havoc on just about every form of media you can name. Whether we're talking about news, novels, TV, or especially music, the gatekeepers and tastemakers are rapidly losing their power over the kind of art and information we all consume... and it's only going to get crazier from here. I think the next decade will be the decade in which the Internet really starts influencing our culture on a huge level, and this decade will be remembered as an awkward in-between phase. But it's still exciting to watch it happening, to be there as the old ways crumble.
* Geek chic. It's not bad to be a nerd anymore! Now it's actually kind of cool! YAY!!!
* Gay rights. There has never been a better decade to be a gay person. Even with the conservative backlash, people have never been more tolerant, and the acceptance level is only going up. It's especially much easier to be a gay teen, what with thousands of high schools having gay-straight alliances and the Internet (there that is again) providing an outlet for more isolated kids.
* Young adult literature. While fewer and fewer adult Americans are reading anything, the teenagers have been buying books in unheard-of numbers, to the point where the whole teen lit genre is exploding like never before. The 2000's has seen a golden age of YA novels the likes of which hasn't been seen since the "problem novel" took over in the 70's. And the YA novels of the 00's are miles and miles better than those preachy, "ripped-from-the-headlines" old books. You're seeing actual experimentation, real literary quality, and such interesting stuff going on that established mainstream authors are writing young adult books because that's where it's at.
* Obama. 'Nuff said.
In short, it's been a great decade to be a geeky, gay, teenage bookworm. Which pretty much defines me to a T. So I really should be showing the 00's more love. :P
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: Reynolds1863 on 03/11/09 at 7:05 pm
Not much except for Obama and the iPod.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: batfan2005 on 03/12/09 at 5:35 am
-The iPod, and Apple TV
-Faster internet
-Obama (even though its only the last year, while most of the 2000's was Bush)
-The mid part of the decade (2004 and 2005)
-The lower crime rate
-PS3, Wii, Gamecube, Nintendo DS
-HD
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: yelimsexa on 03/12/09 at 6:13 am
In the retrospective thread, a commenter named Jebusa made a good point: a lot of us (myself included) are being pretty hard on this decade. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff wrong with it. But it's not all bad! So let's take a moment to list some things we like about the 2000's, even if we can only think of a few. ;) Here are mine, in no particular order:
* The rise of the Internet. It's just beginning to wreak havoc on just about every form of media you can name. Whether we're talking about news, novels, TV, or especially music, the gatekeepers and tastemakers are rapidly losing their power over the kind of art and information we all consume... and it's only going to get crazier from here. I think the next decade will be the decade in which the Internet really starts influencing our culture on a huge level, and this decade will be remembered as an awkward in-between phase. But it's still exciting to watch it happening, to be there as the old ways crumble.
I'd put the rise of the Internet more with the 1990's, and the 2000's as the decade where the Internet has influenced our culture on a huge level. 1999 was NOTHING like 1990 (www..com) was already common on vehicles, signs, television, and around half of everybody had the Internet in 1999. Today, you have to almost live in a cave in order to avoid any Internet-influenced activity. Kindle/Electronic Readers come from downloaded stuff of the Internet, and you need the Internet to download stuff on your iPod. That's why I REALLY miss the '80s and early '90s!
It will take A WHILE for a lot of the graphic design of this decade to become "retro cool", as development is expected to slow with the recession. If you look at signage on many items this decade, language conventions have diversified/change, fonts are DEFINATELY digital-influenced, and the tone is generally less formal. (A 1999/2000 gap will really be noticable soon in terms of when retro cool stops as they are different centuries.) I actually think I'd blend the '90s better with the '80s than with the '00s because for most of the '90s, Internet/digital culture wasn't an integral part of lifestyle as it is with this decade.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: Samwise on 03/12/09 at 11:14 am
I'd put the rise of the Internet more with the 1990's, and the 2000's as the decade where the Internet has influenced our culture on a huge level. 1999 was NOTHING like 1990 (www..com) was already common on vehicles, signs, television, and around half of everybody had the Internet in 1999. Today, you have to almost live in a cave in order to avoid any Internet-influenced activity. Kindle/Electronic Readers come from downloaded stuff of the Internet, and you need the Internet to download stuff on your iPod.
That's a really good point. Although I still think the Internet's only just starting to drive our culture, like in the past three to four years or so. Like, it was gaining influence from the 1990s to the mid-2000s, but the usual brick-and-mortar people were still really in charge. Now the tide is turning.
It will take A WHILE for a lot of the graphic design of this decade to become "retro cool", as development is expected to slow with the recession. If you look at signage on many items this decade, language conventions have diversified/change, fonts are DEFINATELY digital-influenced, and the tone is generally less formal.
Hey, I never even thought of that, but you're right! All the graphic design in the past decade has been WHITE WHITE WHITE, usually with some blue thrown in - very cold and computerized - and hardly anyone's using serif fonts anymore. I'm not sure what you mean by language conventions diversifying, though. Could you elaborate on that?
I actually think I'd blend the '90s better with the '80s than with the '00s because for most of the '90s, Internet/digital culture wasn't an integral part of lifestyle as it is with this decade.
I'd blend 1996-1999 in with the 00's. I don't know if I'd blend the early 90's in with the 80's, though. They were very different in terms of style and mood.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: 80sfan on 03/12/09 at 2:09 pm
Technology (Internet, Ipods, DVD's)
Family guy before 2005.
The economy was okay until 2007.
Geek Chic
Obama
That's it! ;D
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: whistledog on 03/12/09 at 8:16 pm
Blu-Ray Discs
Techno Music
That's pretty much it
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: nicole1977 on 03/12/09 at 9:14 pm
The only part of the decade that I like are the early 2000s (2000-2003) because there was still some good RnB. The early 2000s still has some 90s influence in there, and I like MP3 players, DVDs, and laptops, but as far as the pop culture itself on a whole, I hate this decade. I'm being truthful.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: Foo Bar on 03/12/09 at 11:07 pm
* The rise of the Internet. It's just beginning to wreak havoc on just about every form of media you can name. Whether we're talking about news, novels, TV, or especially music, the gatekeepers and tastemakers are rapidly losing their power over the kind of art and information we all consume... and it's only going to get crazier from here. I think the next decade will be the decade in which the Internet really starts influencing our culture on a huge level, and this decade will be remembered as an awkward in-between phase. But it's still exciting to watch it happening, to be there as the old ways crumble.
Vernor Vinge's Rainbows End should be required reading for anyone interested in where all of this might be going.
I'm personally not that big on social networking, for all the stodgy GenX reasons. I grew up when USENET was the planet-wide message board, on which everyone used their real names, and nobody cared because nobody thought any of the data was going to be archived for more than a month. (Fortunately, I didn't embarass myself too much, but I was lucky enough to have a relatively boring life...) When we discovered that everthing we'd ever written on the 80s/90s equivalent of our walls had not only been archived, but had been made searchable by anyone from anywhere, there was some serious soul-searching, and many of us - even those of us who led relatively boring lives - still haven't gotten over that shock. When free pseudonymous email accounts showed up, we flocked to them. At last, the only minds that would know everything about us would be the databases of the world's intelligence agencies :)
So I'm a bit of a Luddite on that thing, but reading Rainbows End was the first time I ever saw a plausible description of a world in which everyone was always connected to everyone, everywhere, and always under their real-life names, and the tradeoff in privacy ended up being worth it. I really hope the future of social networking ends up as Vinge envisions it.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: Brian06 on 03/13/09 at 4:25 am
1. The evolution of technology, this is true for every decade really because technology just keeps moving. We've had many great developments over the last decade including things like HDTV, just think back in the year 2000 most of us had a big bulky old school standard definition CRTs as our TVs and computer monitors now many of us have very sexy thin flat panels with with 1080p HD pictures. Broadband internet and advances in computers have turned the internet into the center of our entertainment compared to just being more of a basic information source at the start of the decade. Cell phones have progressed remarkably, back in 2000 I had a monochrome screened phone that did nothing but make calls, in 2009 the cell phone has progressed into a true mobile computer for many. The design of technology has come a long way too mostly thanks to Apple, their industrial minimalistic design in recent years, is genius.
2. Rise of Barack Obama, seems like he will be one of our greatest presidents in quite a while. A classy and intelligent man that is a drastic change from his predecessor.
3. Automobile design has come quite a long way, though our vehicles today have nothing on the greats from the 50s, cars are generally better looking today than in the 1990s.
4. The good songs, though there's been a lot of terrible music this decade (ie Soulja Boy), and the years 2000-2005 were mostly pretty good, I am thankful for all the music that came out of the decade that I did enjoy along with movies I enjoyed.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: tv on 03/14/09 at 6:13 pm
Things I like about the 00's:
1.) The daytime talked show died in 2001. Don;t get me wrong I did like daytime talk shows from 1992-1995 I think but most of him turned into sleeze once Jerry Springer became popular. I always liked Montell Williams though.
2.) Girls were hotter in the 00's than they were in the 90's and I did go to High School from 1994-1998.
3.) The internet
4.) The ecomomy was pretty good from 1999-2007 and pretty decent from early to mid 2008. In late 2008 the economy fell off a cliiff.
5.) There was still some music I could enjoy even it wasn;t the 90's anymore from 2001-mid 2005. Even some mid 2006-early 2007 music I like. Late 2005/early 2006 not too good for music. Mid 2007+ not much good music.
6.) The University of Connecticut won the NCAA Final Four in 2004 beating Georgia Tech in the Championship Game and I like Connecticut.
7.) The New York Giants upset the New England Patriots in Super Bowl 43 by a score of 17-14 in one of the biggest upsets ever in pro football history or maybe ever. I am a New York area football fan so I was happy for the Giants.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: joeman on 03/14/09 at 6:23 pm
Things I like about the 00s:
1. Finished High School and College
2. Rise of Youtube, Ipod, and social networking
3. People becoming more aware about politics(From following Bush to supporting Obama)
4. The rise of Apple when it was almost extinct in the 90s.
Too Foo Bar:
I used Usenet also but that was in the tail end of it's popularity in 99-01, though I was hanging out in pro-wrestling forums. Another pre-facebook social networking I used is MIRC, which I still use today to download things I can't find on Bittorrent.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: tv on 03/14/09 at 7:11 pm
That's a really good point. Although I still think the Internet's only just starting to drive our culture, like in the past three to four years or so. Like, it was gaining influence from the 1990s to the mid-2000s, but the usual brick-and-mortar people were still really in charge. Now the tide is turning.
Hey, I never even thought of that, but you're right! All the graphic design in the past decade has been WHITE WHITE WHITE, usually with some blue thrown in - very cold and computerized - and hardly anyone's using serif fonts anymore. I'm not sure what you mean by language conventions diversifying, though. Could you elaborate on that?
I'd blend 1996-1999 in with the 00's. I don't know if I'd blend the early 90's in with the 80's, though. They were very different in terms of style and mood.To me 1996 was a 1995 carryover and totally 90's.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: joeman on 03/14/09 at 7:22 pm
To me 1996 was a 1995 carryover and totally 90's.
IMO, the 00s didn't start until 1999. 1998 still had a 90's feel with a mix of 00s.
Subject: Re: Things you like about the 2000's
Written By: Ice on 03/14/09 at 9:36 pm
I think 1992 and 1997 were the turning points. 1992 was when the 90's really started really becoming the 90's. 1997 wwas when the core 90's starting changing, and was complete by 1999.