http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090209/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bba_rodriguez_steroids_43




Cat

So where's the major outrage and loss of endorsements like they did to Michael Phelps?

So where's the major outrage and loss of endorsements like they did to Michael Phelps?


Steroids-ok: Pot-bad.  ::)



Cat

The-Rod should be thrown out of baseball.  Simple as that.

He's an idiot.

::)

Hubby tells me that apparently they are looking at it like this:

It was 2003 that he tested positive. 2002 was when the ban came in and 2003 they were not being reprimanded.... but still, now people can't claim he beat Bonds' record naturally... he was just as juiced.

oOo and the other thing is that he never lied to a Grand Jury....

Either way I can't stand him - never have and never will. 8-P

Yeah, A-Rod, no sh*t Sherlock!
::)

Should we call him "A-Roids" now? ::)

If that is what it takes to get good baseball "boot 'em up"

Seriously, the issue here is that it was in 2003, and from what I understand he has been clean ever since.  He was, in all probability playing against guys just as juiced as he was.  I really don't care about the whole steroid thing.  Yes, it is better that they don't, but they did, lots of them, some we know, some we will never know.  They can decide to throw out the stats of the steroid era, or they can let them stand.  In the whole scheme of things this is less than a blip on my lifes radar. 

Any athlete who is a 'rhoid user should be banned and their records should be stripped.

Does that include all sports?  Wrestling could end up going back to being a sport.  ::)

Does that include all sports?  Wrestling could end up going back to being a sport.   ::)


'Rhoid users should be banned from ALL sports.

Bruno Sammartino dominated professional wrestling for a couple a decades, and he did not need 'rhoids.  I say clean up all of sports.

  At least it's not ExtenZe!  HAHAHA...!

  *yawn*...

   At least it's not ExtenZe!  HAHAHA...!

   *yawn*...


Too many roids, and there isn't much left there to work with  ;)  ;D  ;D

I think professional baseball is a joke anymore.  First they all go on strike because they weren't making enough money, and next we find out they've all been taking steroids for the past ten years.  They get to play friggin baseball for a living - what thousands of people dream of doing, and they make a mockery of the whole thing.  What a bunch of a-holes. 

'Rhoid users should be banned from ALL sports.




Does that include hemorrhoids? 


SOMEONE had to say it.  :D ;D ;D ;D



Cat

Best headline ever!  :D :D :D

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/AL-B_photos/alexrodriguezpostcover.jpg

Best headline ever!  :D :D :D

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/AL-B_photos/alexrodriguezpostcover.jpg




YES! 

Any athlete who is a 'rhoid user should be banned and their records should be stripped.


Hemorrhoids?
???

Best headline ever!  :D :D :D

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/AL-B_photos/alexrodriguezpostcover.jpg




Is that real?  :o

Is that real?  :o


Yes it is.

I was watching Pardon The Interruption last night and they showed this, and I about fell out of my chair.

Yes it is.

I was watching Pardon The Interruption last night and they showed this, and I about fell out of my chair.


Wow, New York media WIN :D

I saw the actual paper on the train on Monday. Didn't read it because someone else was holding it, but I saw it.

Hemorrhoids?
???


Well if he took 'rhoids in order to treat hemmoroids, under the close supervision of his personal physician, then I would cut him some slack.  ;D

Juiced hitters facing juiced pitchers. 100's of players caught. Remember, for almost the entire season there are only 25 players on a team. Let's do the math shall we?

A-Rod is a tremendous athlete and along with Jason Giambi, had the guts to admit to what he'd done. When a $250,000,000 price tag is slapped on your head the pressure goes up exponentially.

Do I advocate steroid usage in baseball, no?

Am I still on the "Jail Barry" bandwagon? You bet, he lied about what he'd done. I also don't think Mark McGuire should be in the hall of fame, nor should Jose Canseco, Sammy Sosa or Miguel Tejada.

Should we go on a witch hunt against A-Rod because he's the highest profile player to test positive in some time? What good would that do? Tarnish whatever reputation he still has.

Let's be analytical shall we.

A-Rod is one of the best natural talents to ever play the game. He came in to the game right at the height of the steroids era and got involved. Is that really a surprise, a young man with more pressure on him than any of us can imagine finds a way to tilt the odds in his favor? Let's be honest with ourselves shall we? How has the average NFL Linebacker added 30+lbs of muscle over the past 10 years and yet reduced his time in the 40"? How did Major League Baseball players get away with using steroids for so long? Was it because they're some of the smartest men in the world? No, not really, they hit and throw a ball for a living. The blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the powers that be. I'd start with Bud Selig and go backwards, through Fay Vincent, Through Bartlett Giamatti and through Pete Ueberroth. Bowie Kuhn went after coke heads but ignored steroid users!

I don't know what most of you do, but if you had a way in which you could become a lot better at your job and beat out a large percentage of the competition, with almost nothing in the way of repercussions, wouldn't you do it? I know I would.

Alex Rodriguez is a fantastic baseball player. For a brief period of time he decided he wanted to be better. He made a mistake, he owned up to it, he's clean now and the last time he won the M.V.P award he was clean as well. Are we that easily led by the media that we're willing to drag this man through the mud simply because he made a mistake years ago? Because he was brave enough to own up to it? People despise A-Rod because he makes a great deal of money doing something most people see as simply a game. How many of you would reject a $30,000,000 a year deal? Be honest! None of you, because if somebody offered you that much money, you'd be a fool to turn it down.

The witch hunt will continue and evidence will be found that will implicate even more players. Some of it will be real evidence and just like the Mitchell Report showed us, some of it will be mere conjecture that will create stigmas lasting entire careers. http://grg51.typepad.com/steroid_nation/2008/01/sabert-pujols-i.html

Steroids need to be driven out of the game, but baseball is not alone. Almost all professional sports have their users, it's simple. Until the penalties for usage are too severe for the benefits to outweigh the consequences, we will continue to see users.

I've started, so I'll finish.

Alex Rodriguez is a human. He committed a human error. He's apologized. He's also made a logical argument to defend what he did. Like him or don't like him, that's besides the point, there is no good reason for A-Rod to be held up a bastion for hatred. Hundreds of players have used and continue to use performance enhancing drugs, the reason? To enhance their performance! To stay in a job, to continue earning. Oh you say "Poor A-Rod, he'll have to take his millions and go home." That's all well and good. What about a guy like Nook Logan? Who you may ask. He currently plays for the Long Island Ducks. He played two seasons in the majors. After road expenses his earnings from baseball more than likely totaled less than $400,000. Here's a man with almost no education. Ok, he's got $400,000 to his name (before taxes - he played in Washington D.C) and no marketable skills apart from being able to hit a ball fairly well. Why do you think he used steroids? Because he wanted to eat! To continue to make money.

Understand, I am not defending the usage of steroids. You'll be hard pressed to find somebody as committed to baseball as me. Part of that commitment means I want to see a clean game. But before you go deriding these players and making them out to be these great perpetrators of evil, understand the motivation behind using steroids. In other words, think before you open your mouth.

I don't know what most of you do, but if you had a way in which you could become a lot better at your job and beat out a large percentage of the competition, with almost nothing in the way of repercussions, wouldn't you do it? I know I would.



It is a question of character.

Character is what you do when you could get away with anything.

A-Roid has revealed his character plenty in the past year.  First 'hoing around with Madge.  And now his "admission" to 'rhoid usage after the cat was let out of the bag.

It is a question of character.

Character is what you do when you could get away with anything.

A-Roid has revealed his character plenty in the past year.  First 'hoing around with Madge.  And now his "admission" to 'rhoid usage after the cat was let out of the bag.


He's a baseball player. I'm sorry, show me a successful jock that's a nice guy anywhere.

Jim Edmonds, Alfonso Soriano, Scott Rolen and Jeff Kent all have the reputation of being a complete asshole. Poor character. Yet, with the possible exception of Rolen, they all look set to at least have a good look in at the hall of fame.

Should you be judged on what you do in your personal life by your work colleagues? Or is your personal life your business, just like Alex Rodriguez's personal life is his business?

DITTO DAVEY!!!

Everything he said PLUS

All this garbage about character.  Hell, Babe Ruth was a drunken lush who slept with anything in a skirt and ate like a pig at a trough.  He was the first player to hire a PR man to keep his image clean.  You ready to throw him out on the issue of character?  I still haven't seen the same invective aimed at the beloved Mcgwire.  Character?  He screwed around on his wife, booted up, took all the glory, then cried like a two year old when he got caught.  At least A-Rod faced the music like a man and apologized. 

DITTO DAVEY!!!

Everything he said PLUS

All this garbage about character.  Hell, Babe Ruth was a drunken lush who slept with anything in a skirt and ate like a pig at a trough.  He was the first player to hire a PR man to keep his image clean.  You ready to throw him out on the issue of character?  I still haven't seen the same invective aimed at the beloved Mcgwire.  Character?  He screwed around on his wife, booted up, took all the glory, then cried like a two year old when he got caught.  At least A-Rod faced the music like a man and apologized. 


Two words.

Ty Cobb.

Two words.

Ty Cobb.


Would you have been honored to get cleated by Ty Cobb?

Would you have been honored to get cleated by Ty Cobb?


Because I actually have hands, I would have broke his jaw.

Of course, simply because I am still with limb, Ty wouldn't have had the balls, he preferred to beat up on cripples.

Davey, you're right.

I'm just jealous of professional athletes.  I totally admit it.  I wish I could do something I love and get paid millions of dollars a year to do it.  When it comes right down to it, I don't really care that much about the steroid thing - I'm more bitter about the striking thing.  I know it's been years, but that just really pissed me off.  I couldn't believe that they were holding out for more money.  And maybe I don't know about all the details, but I still think it sucks. 

Anyway though, you have a totally valid point about A-Rod manning up and taking the blame.  I think that's cool of him.  If I could find a drug (besides meth) that would make me lose weight easily and effortlessly, I'd take it in a heartbeat.  So yeah...I can't judge. 

As for his affair with Madonna - who freaking cares?  Seriously.   

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/0211/alpha1.jpg

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/0211/alpha1.jpg


You should put this as an attachment so we can see it.

Just paste the link into your browser :P  Too lazy to save and reattach :P

Davey, you're right.

I'm just jealous of professional athletes.  I totally admit it.  I wish I could do something I love and get paid millions of dollars a year to do it.  When it comes right down to it, I don't really care that much about the steroid thing - I'm more bitter about the striking thing.  I know it's been years, but that just really pissed me off.  I couldn't believe that they were holding out for more money.  And maybe I don't know about all the details, but I still think it sucks. 

Anyway though, you have a totally valid point about A-Rod manning up and taking the blame.  I think that's cool of him.  If I could find a drug (besides meth) that would make me lose weight easily and effortlessly, I'd take it in a heartbeat.  So yeah...I can't judge. 

As for his affair with Madonna - who freaking cares?  Seriously.   


Thanks for admitting it. I think that's a big part of the problem. The other side of the coin is that so many fans invested so much in the players that they're now disgusted to see them as steroid users, thing is this, I find much of the animosity toward these users a bit comical. Fans have been dishing out billions of dollars collectively to see these players send balls 50 feet over the center field fence. Then, when they discover that such demonstrations of unbelievable power may have been assisted, albeit slightly, by little more than a supplement deemed illegal because it can be harmful when used excessively, they exercise bafflement? Hilarious.

I think a lot of people have a terrible misconception of steroids anyway. They see it as comparable to Popeye's spinach. Most players used it to recover from injuries faster. In a time when pitchers are groomed from a young age to go at full power for 6-7 innings before their relieved by someone else, devastating injuries are virtually unavoidable. Ask Rick Ankiel, he ended up in the Mitchell report even though he was actually prescribed anabolic steroids and HGH by his doctor, not a phoney doctor, a legitimate team doctor. I don't think the hitters are immune from the same reasoning. They work out harder and more often. When they combine that exercise with steroids and HGH, they tend to add power. But I have a hard time believing that steroids allowed Bonds to hit .370 in 2002. Baseball theory and training methods have improved vastly in the past decade and Barry's soaring batting average can be traced to that. Steroids don't increase hand eye coordination.

Professional sports are the bastion of competition. It's absurd to think that these guys, who compete for their livelihood, wouldn't do all they could to compete with other players they knew were doing everything they could to get ahead.

Unlike the holier-than-thou sorts that wish to condemn pro-ball players for their steroid usage (until of course it's made clear just how many players are users - I've already mentioned that there are 25 players on a team and there are currently more than 250 specific names) I wish these guys the best of luck and hope A-Rod repeats his 2007 numbers with Tex protecting him in the lineup.

I'd be very disappointed to see Albert Pujols involved in anything like this. I know I joke about him being in his mid 30's just to rile up the anti A-Rod crowd, but I have a lot invested in AP. Regardless of my opinions regarding the steroid issue, baseball needs it's shining beacon, baseball needs it's untouchable hero. Baseball needs it's new Joe DiMaggio, it's new Stan Musial. A perfect warrior, a perfect knight. A real American Hero. Ultimately, baseball needs Albert to simply re-write the history books and he's going a long way to doing it. But what happens if the unthinkable happens and he is legitimately tarnished. Do we then go after Albert? If 'they' can get to Albert, did they get to Ken Griffey Jr? Manny Ramirez? Where does the inquisition end?

An amnesty on users wouldn't be a bad idea. But the real issue here is with the powers that be. A 50 game suspension is a step forward, but that's not much. It's equivalent to a 5 game suspension in the NFL and we've seen how far their drug policy has gone to stomping out steroid use in football.

Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio, A nation turns it's lonely eyes to you. Unfortunately, I hate to break it to you all, but if Joltin' Joe was around today, he'd probably be on the juice too. Because just like everyone else, he's competing for a spot on the team and there's only so many to go around.

Just paste the link into your browser :P  Too lazy to save and reattach :P


Not smart enough.  :P  Can't.  :P


Thanks for admitting it. I think that's a big part of the problem. The other side of the coin is that so many fans invested so much in the players that they're now disgusted to see them as steroid users, thing is this, I find much of the animosity toward these users a bit comical. Fans have been dishing out billions of dollars collectively to see these players send balls 50 feet over the center field fence. Then, when they discover that such demonstrations of unbelievable power may have been assisted, albeit slightly, by little more than a supplement deemed illegal because it can be harmful when used excessively, they exercise bafflement? Hilarious.

I think a lot of people have a terrible misconception of steroids anyway. They see it as comparable to Popeye's spinach. Most players used it to recover from injuries faster. In a time when pitchers are groomed from a young age to go at full power for 6-7 innings before their relieved by someone else, devastating injuries are virtually unavoidable. Ask Rick Ankiel, he ended up in the Mitchell report even though he was actually prescribed anabolic steroids and HGH by his doctor, not a phoney doctor, a legitimate team doctor. I don't think the hitters are immune from the same reasoning. They work out harder and more often. When they combine that exercise with steroids and HGH, they tend to add power. But I have a hard time believing that steroids allowed Bonds to hit .370 in 2002. Baseball theory and training methods have improved vastly in the past decade and Barry's soaring batting average can be traced to that. Steroids don't increase hand eye coordination.

Professional sports are the bastion of competition. It's absurd to think that these guys, who compete for their livelihood, wouldn't do all they could to compete with other players they knew were doing everything they could to get ahead.

Unlike the holier-than-thou sorts that wish to condemn pro-ball players for their steroid usage (until of course it's made clear just how many players are users - I've already mentioned that there are 25 players on a team and there are currently more than 250 specific names) I wish these guys the best of luck and hope A-Rod repeats his 2007 numbers with Tex protecting him in the lineup.

I'd be very disappointed to see Albert Pujols involved in anything like this. I know I joke about him being in his mid 30's just to rile up the anti A-Rod crowd, but I have a lot invested in AP. Regardless of my opinions regarding the steroid issue, baseball needs it's shining beacon, baseball needs it's untouchable hero. Baseball needs it's new Joe DiMaggio, it's new Stan Musial. A perfect warrior, a perfect knight. A real American Hero. Ultimately, baseball needs Albert to simply re-write the history books and he's going a long way to doing it. But what happens if the unthinkable happens and he is legitimately tarnished. Do we then go after Albert? If 'they' can get to Albert, did they get to Ken Griffey Jr? Manny Ramirez? Where does the inquisition end?

An amnesty on users wouldn't be a bad idea. But the real issue here is with the powers that be. A 50 game suspension is a step forward, but that's not much. It's equivalent to a 5 game suspension in the NFL and we've seen how far their drug policy has gone to stomping out steroid use in football.

Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio, A nation turns it's lonely eyes to you. Unfortunately, I hate to break it to you all, but if Joltin' Joe was around today, he'd probably be on the juice too. Because just like everyone else, he's competing for a spot on the team and there's only so many to go around.


You are really smart and thoughtful and great, you know that?

You are really smart and thoughtful and great, you know that?


Man love is a strong force. I won't hear a bad word said about A-Rod.

Man love is a strong force. I won't hear a bad word said about A-Rod.


It's the eyes,admit it :P

ROFLcopter

I say let the free market decide!  If fans want to see mutants on the diamond, let there be mutants! It won't take long for these clowns to collapse under their own mass.  The skeleton and the heart can only take so much abuse before it's check out time!  Dead men don't win pendants. 
:D

Two words.

Ty Cobb.



The Georgia Peach..... He's another one.  Professional Sports and character, oil and water.    ;D 

It's the eyes,admit it :P


Actually, it's in the boxscore.


I say let the free market decide!  If fans want to see mutants on the diamond, let there be mutants! It won't take long for these clowns to collapse under their own mass.  The skeleton and the heart can only take so much abuse before it's check out time!  Dead men don't win pendants. 
:D


Rare agreement from me. I made the point, the same fans that swelled the ballparks when Sosa and McGuire battled to see who could take the largest dose are now pouring scorn on A-Rod. The fans wanted drama and excitment. It was given to them. Now they want belittlement and finger pointing and by god they're going to get it!


ROFLcopter


http://crackthecode.us/images/kicked-in-nuts.jpg

I'm gonna give Jason $10 and something really really super shiny to do this!


The Georgia Peach..... He's another one.  Professional Sports and character, oil and water.    ;D 


There are some guys who walk the walk. AP and Kurt Warner spring immediately to mind. But for the most part, that's exactly right. They're not superstar athletes because they go out of their way to help people, they're stars because they're willing to piss on everyone else to succeed.

using steroids is a personal choice, and the players that use them to enhance their performance make that choice and have no one to blame but themselves. I've been a fan of MLB since the early 60's and still love the game but have become increasingly disenfranchised with the game. In the old days good players practiced hard and worked on their craft constantly to become better. I can understand even the very best players juicing, because cheating almost becomes necessary to compete. And I bet that these guys all know who's doing it. the thing is, If you go up against an opponent who's kicking your butt or has amazing hitting stats, then it's a temptation to get the extra bit of "pop" that those guys have and then when you start hitting bombs outta the park, who's not gonna want that?  :-\\  I remember when Miguel Tejada left the A's to go to Baltimore and then all of a sudden, the stocky little shortstop beefed up, he got very big and strong and won the frigging home run derby. no way that happens without extra juice. The sad thing is that cheating also occurs at every level of the game, even in the lowly world of amatuer softball where softball bats are altered to give the hitter a good 20-50 more feet of distance. it's amazing when a little fella like me is hittin 310ft homers. that's not possible without a "cheater bat" but people do it because since the other teams have tthem and aren't getting caught, for us not to have them is like taking a knife to a gunfight. the good thing is the tournament directors are pulling suspicious bats and having them checkd and if a softball player is found to have used a altered bat, they are banned for 1 year from all associations.
as for the steroids scandals, I feel bad for these ballplayers because they are so good already without the steroids but they made bad choices & couldn't resist the temptation to be even better, and whatever the punishment is, I sadly support it for the sake of trying to restore the the game of baseball and all sports.

Anyone who really loves the game and wants to see it cleaned up should stop buying tickets to pro games and start showing up at high school games.  Swell the ranks there and let the kids know from the get go that you are supporting their talent, and if they get caught using(because many of them do) swat them like flys.  High school games can be just as exciting as pro games, and much more fun, and the money would go to a better cause. In about 10 years these kids will be the players on the pro field and the everybody wins.

I can't remember if Jose mentions A-Rod in his tell all book Juiced, but I have it and am gonna take a look to see if he did.  I'm sure Canseco is feeling somewhat vindicated even if he is a rat.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020sFcZ5JSWoBPayjzbkF/SIG=11tf753ea/EXP=1235206789/**http%3A//www.joewiebe.com/images/juiced.jpg

I can't remember if Jose mentions A-Rod in his tell all book Juiced, but I have it and am gonna take a look to see if he did.  I'm sure Canseco is feeling somewhat vindicated even if he is a rat.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0S020sFcZ5JSWoBPayjzbkF/SIG=11tf753ea/EXP=1235206789/**http%3A//www.joewiebe.com/images/juiced.jpg


Canseco mentioned that he introduced A-Rod to some guys and A-Rod basically said he wasn't interested. Evidently because his cousin already had the hookup, but that's besides the point.

Canseco mentioned that he introduced A-Rod to some guys and A-Rod basically said he wasn't interested. Evidently because his cousin already had the hookup, but that's besides the point.
oh yeah..."his cousin"  sometimes these ultra talented wealthy ballplayers try to act as if they are so stupid that they would take these mystery drugs/vitamins without researching.
they're not that dumb  >:(  are they? 


I reviewed Canseco's book last night & nowhere does he mention introducing A-Rod to the goodies, but he did say A-Rod was boring  ;D