http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080804/ap_on_en_mo/heath_ledger

So...how many of you think that ol' Mary Kate had something to do with Heath obtaining those drugs? ???

I think she gave him those drugs.  She's asking for immunity, if she's innocent why is she so scared of testifying?  Besides wasn't she the last person he really had contact with?

I think she gave him those drugs.  She's asking for immunity, if she's innocent why is she so scared of testifying?  Besides wasn't she the last person he really had contact with?



ya...I agree. I think it is kind of fishy that she was also the first person that was contacted too, when it was discovered that he was dead. Yes...if she had nothing to hide, she would be cooperating like everyone else has.

She has a lot to lose if she does confess.  However if she lies on the witness stand to save her own ass she's looking at possible perjury charges.  Hence the wanting of immunity.

My first reaction was, "WTF?"

I don't know what to make of it.  The whole story surrounding his death is just so bizarre that I doubt anyone will ever know what really happened.

Very fishy.  Why should she be granted immunity?  I just don't get it.

Very fishy.  Why should she be granted immunity?  I just don't get it.


Because she's Mary-Kate Olsen and she can't go to jail.  Famous people don't go to prison.  Did you want me to work on my Boo-Hoo routine?

Her request for immunity certainly seems suspicious - what is it with child stars?  ;D

Because she's Mary-Kate Olsen and she can't go to jail.  Famous people don't go to prison.  Did you want me to work on my Boo-Hoo routine?


That's right...famous people never go to prison...didn't anyone learn anything from the OJ Simpsons trial?

That's right...famous people never go to prison...didn't anyone learn anything from the OJ Simpsons trial?


Of course there was Paris. :-\\  Anyway I think Mary-Kate gave him the stuff.  She seems too freaked out these days.  Not to mention looking strung out.

Very fishy.  Why should she be granted immunity?  I just don't get it.

She only wants that because either she is involved or someone she DEALS with was involved

No immunity, I say.

She has to pay the piper for whatever misdeeds she has commited.  I mean, for crying out loud, a child lost her father due to Heath's selfish drug habit.  And if Mary Kate facilitated it, then she's gotta be held accountable.

I didnt know Heath, but maybe he was a fiend for prescription drugs.  Possibly, Mary Kate thought she was helping him by scoring some drugs, when in fact it was the straw that broke the camels back.

'Course she should.  That little bimbo knows she doesn't even remember what she did that day!
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No immunity, I say.

She has to pay the piper for whatever misdeeds she has commited.  I mean, for crying out loud, a child lost her father due to Heath's selfish drug habit.  And if Mary Kate facilitated it, then she's gotta be held accountable.
Excuse me 'selfish drug habit' ? This is a guy with manic depression struggling to cope with prescription drugs not some cocky celebrity twat shooting/snorting their talent away. My god if you had even the slightest inclination of, a.how addictive prescription drugs are and b.what manic depression is you would think before you made comments like that.
I'm not denying the drugs in his system would appear to be from illegal prescriptions but it is scarilly easy to become reliant on prescriptions just to function and that's without throwing depression into the mix.

Wow, asking for immunity in such a high-profile case doesn't raise any red flags, now does it?  :o

Excuse me 'selfish drug habit' ? This is a guy with manic depression struggling to cope with prescription drugs not some cocky celebrity twat shooting/snorting their talent away. My god if you had even the slightest inclination of, a.how addictive prescription drugs are and b.what manic depression is you would think before you made comments like that.
I'm not denying the drugs in his system would appear to be from illegal prescriptions but it is scarilly easy to become reliant on prescriptions just to function and that's without throwing depression into the mix.


Very well said.......

Excuse me 'selfish drug habit' ? This is a guy with manic depression struggling to cope with prescription drugs not some cocky celebrity twat shooting/snorting their talent away. My god if you had even the slightest inclination of, a.how addictive prescription drugs are and b.what manic depression is you would think before you made comments like that.
I'm not denying the drugs in his system would appear to be from illegal prescriptions but it is scarilly easy to become reliant on prescriptions just to function and that's without throwing depression into the mix.


I'd have to agree.  I've seen selfish drug and alcohol habits first hand, and what Heath did doesn't qualify.  It has already been stated before that he had a lot of emotional problems (which caused him and Michelle to break up), and couple that with not sleeping well and that freakin' damned Joker role (if you have seen "The Dark Knight" then you know what I'm talking about)....well, it's just a recipe for disaster all around.  Plus, it was already ruled an accidental overdose, which just furthers my point that this was not intentional and selfish drug use, but rather a desperate attempt to get some form of rest.  I will admit to doing the same thing he did when I have had bad nights where I can't sleep and my personal demons are attacking, but I was lucky enough that I didn't kill myself in the process because I also included alcohol in the mix.  I've since given it up, but I do sort of understand what he was trying to do and it just went very very wrong. :-\\

And if it was even HALFWAY caused by this little troll twin....well, I hope she feels stabbing guilt for the rest of her life because we all know she won't go down for any involvement with it. ::)

Looks like it doesn't matter now.

Feds Close Probe Into Ledger's Death

Excuse me 'selfish drug habit' ? This is a guy with manic depression struggling to cope with prescription drugs not some cocky celebrity twat shooting/snorting their talent away.
How's that again?
:D

How's that again?
:D
What? you make no sense...............

How's that again?
:D
I think he's trying to say tht just because something is prescription,that doesn't mean you should abuse it or even that it should have been prescribed in the first place.

Excuse me 'selfish drug habit' ? This is a guy with manic depression struggling to cope with prescription drugs not some cocky celebrity twat shooting/snorting their talent away. My god if you had even the slightest inclination of, a.how addictive prescription drugs are and b.what manic depression is you would think before you made comments like that.
I'm not denying the drugs in his system would appear to be from illegal prescriptions but it is scarilly easy to become reliant on prescriptions just to function and that's without throwing depression into the mix.


First of all there is no real difference between being hooked on prescription drugs and snorting or shooting.  Drug abuse is drug abuse.  Being bipolar makes a person more inclined to search for the ultimate high, be it legal or illegal.  To claim that he was selfish really has nothing to so with his drug abuse.  If the money he was using for drugs was supposed to put food on the table then I would have to agree.  However with his salary that wasn't the case.

Added note : The drugs found in his system are not prescribed as treatment for bipolar disorder.  Like I said, drug abuse is drug abuse no matter how you slice it.

Don't know that I would call it selfish or not.  What I will say is that it was done with disregard for the impact it would have on his children/child.

You got a little kid depending on you, and you're out doing drugs at Mary Kate's place?  Sorry it is hard to cut someone slack on that count.

The sad part is that he's being beatified in the press.  All hail he who chose drugs over being in the life of his child.

Where did it say he was manic depressive?

First of all there is no real difference between being hooked on prescription drugs and snorting or shooting.  Drug abuse is drug abuse.  Being bipolar makes a person more inclined to search for the ultimate high, be it legal or illegal.  To claim that he was selfish really has nothing to so with his drug abuse.  If the money he was using for drugs was supposed to put food on the table then I would have to agree.  However with his salary that wasn't the case.

Added note : The drugs found in his system are not prescribed as treatment for bipolar disorder.  Like I said, drug abuse is drug abuse no matter how you slice it.
What I am saying is that if you are prescribed drugs for a specific illness and you become hooked on them because they are dangerously addictive it's not the same as a perfectly healthy person abusing their system with smack or coke. I know people this has happened too and believe me the last thing they ever expected to end up was a drug addict thanks to thier friendly neighbourhood GP! You can't just stop without the most horrendous side effects and I understand from reports he was trying to stop. How do we know that he wasn't so desperate when MK said have 'some of these they'll help' or 'I know someone who can get you something to help' he didn't take her arm off at the elbow for them?

I hadn't heard he was Bipolar.

Don't know that I would call it selfish or not.  What I will say is that it was done with disregard for the impact it would have on his children/child.

You got a little kid depending on you, and you're out doing drugs at Mary Kate's place?  Sorry it is hard to cut someone slack on that count.

The sad part is that he's being beatified in the press.  All hail he who chose drugs over being in the life of his child.


How is it disregarding his child when he's trying to get to sleep?

I found this on Wiki and verified it through other sources.  This says a lot about his sleep habits.

In a New York Times interview with Sarah Lyall published on November 4, 2007, Ledger stated that his recently-completed roles in I'm Not There (2007) and The Dark Knight (2008) had taken a toll on his ability to sleep: "Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night. ... I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." At that time, he told Lyall that he had taken two Ambien pills, after taking just one had not sufficed, and those left him in "a stupor, only to wake up an hour later, his mind still racing."

Prior to his return to New York from his last film assignment, in London, in January 2008, while he was apparently suffering from some kind of respiratory illness, he reportedly complained to his co-star Christopher Plummer that he was continuing to have difficulty sleeping and taking pills to help with that problem: "Confirming earlier reports that Ledger hadn't been feeling well on set, Plummer says, 'we all caught colds because we were shooting outside on horrible, damp nights. But Heath's went on and I don't think he dealt with it immediately with the antibiotics.... I think what he did have was the walking pneumonia.' On top of that, 'He was saying all the time, "dammit, I can't sleep"... and he was taking all these pills .' "


That's hardly the regimen of a hardcore, self absorbed, "to hell with my loved ones", drug addict.  That's the regimen of someone who is desperate to sleep and get better and obviously didn't know that his body was as run down as it was.

Furthermore, he wasn't at the Trollsen Twin's house, he was in his own apartment.  The person who found him (for some stupid assed reason) called Mary Kate, who sent her bodyguards, instead of, you know, doing the SMART thing and calling an ambulance and the police.

I will maintain (unless it is proven otherwise) that this was an accident, pure and simple.  Ledger was looking for a way to sleep after being exhausted and run down and obviously very ill, and he took too many pills.  Maybe he forgot how many he took.  Maybe he thought his body could handle it.  The point is, WE DON'T KNOW, it was ruled accidental, and now the investigation is over.