Does anyone here watch the Sopranos?  Next week is the last episode and I was wondering if anyone was interested in predicting what will happen next week?

I never got into it, first because I think it was on HBO & I didn't have that channel, but since it's on a regular cable tv station now,  I have watched a few & while I have no clue about next week, I'm enamoured by Tony's character. I like him. I could get into this show. It's not The Godfater or The Godfather II, but it's good. I saw one where Tony's wife and the priest were alone in a compromising situation. Did they make it? Tony would friggin whack that guy, priest or not. I know I would.  ;D

I never got into it, first because I think it was on HBO & I didn't have that channel, but since it's on a regular cable tv station now,  I have watched a few & while I have no clue about next week, I'm enamoured by Tony's character. I like him. I could get into this show. It's not The Godfater or The Godfather II, but it's good. I saw one where Tony's wife and the priest were alone in a compromising situation. Did they make it? Tony would friggin whack that guy, priest or not. I know I would.  ;D
You know, I don't even remember what happened between Carmella and the priest. 

I take it there are no Sopranos fans here.

You all sicken me!! :D

I take it there are no Sopranos fans here.

You all sicken me!! :D
Actually I've been getting back into it lately. Lots of heads seem to be rolling.  :(
You know, I don't even remember what happened between Carmella and the priest. 
I think that it turned out that Carmela figured out that the priest had been taking advantage of her just to get some of her fine home cooking, so she told him to get lost.

I take it there are no Sopranos fans here.

You all sicken me!! :D

Big Sopranos fan here, just finished watching episode 20 "Blue Comet". Awestruck.  :o

Not even F. Coppola could of dreamed up getting whacked in a model train shop, in cinematic, slow motion.

Scorsese would of been proud. (BTW what was with the slow-mo "Raging Bull" part between Tony and Sil?)

It guess its finally happening, the NJ vs NYC mob war. Bobby's dead, Sil is almost dead, (Chrissy already gone some time ago)
Tony is in a safehouse alone with the AK-47 that Bobby gave him (is that Juniors place)? Melfi has ended therapy.

Wow, its hard to see this is coming to an end this way. We (or at least I) spent the last 7 years getting to know a sociopathic, murdering, wife -cheating, mob boss and his family and "friends"/relations, and somehow hoping there is some human side to his attempt to understand himself and some type of redemption but no, thats gone now...he is who he always was and, as we should all understand it, have to realize that Tony is just a sociopath, a murdering, thieving, cheating, lying, mob boss and really nothing more.

David Chase started in bringing us in on Tony's life in the beginning of the series, now his pulling back away to remind us of who Tony and the mob really is...

Can't even begin to speculate what the last episode will bring, there are so many loose plot stings to be answered...who will survive? (Really hoping NJ crew lives to at least whack out Phil! OR someone smacks AJ out of his whinny, depressive mindset.)

Next week is the last episode and I was wondering if anyone was interested in predicting what will happen next week?
These aren't so much predictions as they are speculations, but let the fun begin!  ;)

Speculation #1: The Sopranos likes to drop a lot of sly references to classic mob films. In Goodfellas, Michael Imperoli played "Spider," who got shot in the foot (and later on, killed) by Joe Pesci. In the first(?) season, Christopher was in some pizza joint and some kid working behind the counter mouthed off to him, and Chrissy shot him in the foot.

Phil Leotardo is played by Frank Vincent, who also played "Billy Batts" in Goodfellas, and I can't help but think there might be something to that. Perhaps Tony and Paulie will find Phil, pop a few caps in his ass, then stuff him in the trunk of Paulie's Cadillac and drive off to get rid of the body, only to start hearing him kicking in the trunk. They then pull over in a secluded area, pop the trunk, Paulie pulls out a butcher knife, and if you've seen Goodfellas you know what happens next.


Speculation #2: When the New York goons sped off from the Bada Bing after the hit on Silvio and Patsy, they caused a guy on a crotch rocket to wipe out and then get run over and killed by another vehicle. Although the motorcyclist was wearing a helmet and thus unidentifiable, I can't help but wonder if he will turn out to be somehow connected to one of the characters. (One of A.J's friends, the death of whom pushes A.J. over the edge and drives him to suicide? Perhaps a relative of one of the FBI agents who keep Tony in the loop?) Probably nothing to it, but you never know.


Speculation #3: The two Arabs who hung out at the Bada Bing (and suspected to be terrorists by the FBI) will indeed turn out to be linked to al-Qaeda and will attempt a major terror attack, only to be thwarted thanks in no small part to the information that Tony has been giving to the feds.  Because of this, Tony Soprano will be granted immunity by the government, and he and his family will be put into the Witness Protection Program and start a new life in Bismarck, North Dakota or some other dull rural Midwestern town.

Anyway I can't wait.  ;)

Yay!!  We have some more fans. :D  I have to go to San Antonio for a few days, but I will be back to give my predictions.

I'm gonna sorta miss the show.

Never followed the series myself.  I liked the episodes I saw though.

So I've been hearing the buzz about the series ending.  I'm sure millions of "Sopranos" fans will be sad to see it go, but they should take comfort in the knowledge that it's better to end on a strong note than to peter-out all hackneyed and tired with ratings at rock bottom. 

Ten years is about the upper lifespan for a TV series.

I mean, daytim soaps such as "General Hospital" and "All My Children" have been on for 40, 45 years and if you find those entertaining, I'd also recommend watching paint dry!
:P

I'm so sad to see it going - it's one of my all-time favorites.  I'm not going to even TRY to speculate on the ending anymore - after last week who knows what's going to happen.  All I do know is that I HATE Phil.  Such an ass.  I hope he gets it.  I liked gumbypiz' comments about showing Tony and the Mob for what they really are.  At first I kind of had a crush on Tony, but as the seasons have gone by I've become more and more revolted by him, especially in the episode where (spoiler alert) Christpha dies.  It's some damn fine TV though - I can't wait to see how it all ends.

Perhaps there will be a "Sopranos - The Movie"?

Perhaps there will be a "Sopranos - The Movie"?

I think we already had "The Sopornos"
:-X

They then pull over in a secluded area, pop the trunk, Paulie pulls out a butcher knife, and if you've seen Goodfellas you know what happens next.


My absolute favorite part in that movie!!! :D :D :D :D ;D  Course they had to cut off a deer's paw. :P

These aren't so much predictions as they are speculations, but let the fun begin!  ;)

Speculation #1: The Sopranos likes to drop a lot of sly references to classic mob films. In Goodfellas, Michael Imperoli played "Spider," who got shot in the foot (and later on, killed) by Joe Pesci. In the first(?) season, Christopher was in some pizza joint and some kid working behind the counter mouthed off to him, and Chrissy shot him in the foot.

Phil Leotardo is played by Frank Vincent, who also played "Billy Batts" in Goodfellas, and I can't help but think there might be something to that. Perhaps Tony and Paulie will find Phil, pop a few caps in his ass, then stuff him in the trunk of Paulie's Cadillac and drive off to get rid of the body, only to start hearing him kicking in the trunk. They then pull over in a secluded area, pop the trunk, Paulie pulls out a butcher knife, and if you've seen Goodfellas you know what happens next.


Speculation #2: When the New York goons sped off from the Bada Bing after the hit on Silvio and Patsy, they caused a guy on a crotch rocket to wipe out and then get run over and killed by another vehicle. Although the motorcyclist was wearing a helmet and thus unidentifiable, I can't help but wonder if he will turn out to be somehow connected to one of the characters. (One of A.J's friends, the death of whom pushes A.J. over the edge and drives him to suicide? Perhaps a relative of one of the FBI agents who keep Tony in the loop?) Probably nothing to it, but you never know.


Speculation #3: The two Arabs who hung out at the Bada Bing (and suspected to be terrorists by the FBI) will indeed turn out to be linked to al-Qaeda and will attempt a major terror attack, only to be thwarted thanks in no small part to the information that Tony has been giving to the feds.  Because of this, Tony Soprano will be granted immunity by the government, and he and his family will be put into the Witness Protection Program and start a new life in Bismarck, North Dakota or some other dull rural Midwestern town.

Anyway I can't wait.  ;)


Thanks for the ideas, Al. :)  Speculation #3 was one of the endings I was thinking could happen, but I was thinking that maybe Tony was going to rat on Phil and then go into Witness Protection.  So let's make this my #1 ending.  Tony rats on Phil and goes into the Witness Protection.

2.  So pretty much since the series has started I have expected AJ to get hard (so to speak) and join the mafia.  So far that hasn't happened, but maybe Bobby's murder, or something else, will put him over the edge.  He'll whack Phil and then they will make him. 

3.  This one is kind of far fetched, but I'll lay it out there.  Tony and Phil end up in a shoot out...both die and others (Paulie/AJ or Little Carmine) take over the families.

4.  Well, I had another, but I can't remember it right now.  If I remember, I will post it.

Scorsese would of been proud. (BTW what was with the slow-mo "Raging Bull" part between Tony and Sil?)

;D  I didn't get that either, but I loved it.



Tony is in a safehouse alone with the AK-47 that Bobby gave him (is that Juniors place)?



I was thinking that was Juniors place too.

Thanks for the ideas, Al. :)  Speculation #3 was one of the endings I was thinking could happen, but I was thinking that maybe Tony was going to rat on Phil and then go into Witness Protection.  So let's make this my #1 ending.  Tony rats on Phil and goes into the Witness Protection.

2.  So pretty much since the series has started I have expected AJ to get hard (so to speak) and join the mafia.  So far that hasn't happened, but maybe Bobby's murder, or something else, will put him over the edge.  He'll whack Phil and then they will make him. 

3.  This one is kind of far fetched, but I'll lay it out there.  Tony and Phil end up in a shoot out...both die and others (Paulie/AJ or Little Carmine) take over the families.

4.  Well, I had another, but I can't remember it right now.  If I remember, I will post it.

Hmm, interesting thoughts.
1. Can't see Tony ratting and going to the feds, it would be such a anticlimactic ending, after going through all we have as viewers of the show  this would be such a "cop-out" (pun intended). I'd really be pissed if this is the ending David Chase chose...Can you see Tony living in the mid west, in some cracker box house, driving a station wagon with wood on the side? Our lovable (but materialistic) Carmela simply could not cope with the step down in money and lifestyle, it would kill her...
2. AJ getting "hard", don't see that happening, at least not in just the course of one episode (if the ending show was hours long then maybe, just not enough time). I thought earlier when AJ helped hold down the one guy while his "friends" were pouring acid on his feet we were finally seeing him "toughen up" but the last episodes crying in the closet and his attempted suicide, well, from crying depressed emo kid, to murdering mob boss in one episode? Nope.
I'm not really a violent person, but AJ needs a swift kick in his a** and needs to grow up SOON. Gotta hand it to Robert Iger(sp), as much as I hate his whimpering, weak souled, and weak minded person he portrays, he MUST be a good actor to pull this off so convincingly.
3. Not so far-fetched, I can see Tony and Phil taking each other out, now AJ or Lil Carmine taking over no, Paulie, well maybe, but he would really have to change his "cowboy" ways if he was to become head of a family.
4. This will probably really piss off a lot of viewers...Chase has done it before...how bout the last six or so episodes are all a dream or part of Tony's coma after he got shot earlier this season? Maybe the last half of this season was all a comatose dream and Tony dies in his bed and never comes out of the coma?
Yeah it would make me mad too, but after the "Test Dream" anything goes...

Hmm, interesting thoughts.
1. Can't see Tony ratting and going to the feds, it would be such a anticlimactic ending, after going through all we have as viewers of the show  this would be such a "cop-out" (pun intended). I'd really be pissed if this is the ending David Chase chose...Can you see Tony living in the mid west, in some cracker box house, driving a station wagon with wood on the side? Our lovable (but materialistic) Carmela simply could not cope with the step down in money and lifestyle, it would kill her...
2. AJ getting "hard", don't see that happening, at least not in just the course of one episode (if the ending show was hours long then maybe, just not enough time). I thought earlier when AJ helped hold down the one guy while his "friends" were pouring acid on his feet we were finally seeing him "toughen up" but the last episodes crying in the closet and his attempted suicide, well, from crying depressed emo kid, to murdering mob boss in one episode? Nope.
I'm not really a violent person, but AJ needs a swift kick in his a** and needs to grow up SOON. Gotta hand it to Robert Iger(sp), as much as I hate his whimpering, weak souled, and weak minded person he portrays, he MUST be a good actor to pull this off so convincingly.
3. Not so far-fetched, I can see Tony and Phil taking each other out, now AJ or Lil Carmine taking over no, Paulie, well maybe, but he would really have to change his "cowboy" ways if he was to become head of a family.
4. This will probably really piss off a lot of viewers...Chase has done it before...how bout the last six or so episodes are all a dream or part of Tony's coma after he got shot earlier this season? Maybe the last half of this season was all a comatose dream and Tony dies in his bed and never comes out of the coma?
Yeah it would make me mad too, but after the "Test Dream" anything goes...


David Chase doing something unexpected might be exactly what happens.  Maybe you are right with the dream idea.

  A friend loaned me his first season DVD set about...OMG six years ago..! :o

  What I watched I liked.  The opening theme is good.  The therapist is a babe...

WTF was that?!?  >:( >:( >:(

Still, I liked what happened to Phil.  KEE-RUNCH!  ;)

WTF was that?!?  >:( >:( >:(

Still, I liked what happened to Phil.   KEE-RUNCH!  ;)


That was awesome...I loved it!  Speedbump Phil. ;D

Yeah, I didn't care for the silent ending, but I guess that was his way to keep it open ended for any future plans if needed and to get people talking. 

I'm really sad to see it go though.

WTF was that?!?  >:( >:( >:(

Still, I liked what happened to Phil.  KEE-RUNCH!  ;)


gotta love it.  Chase didn't want a typical "let's wrap up every single loose thread" type of series ending.

Who was the guy in the Member's Only jacket?  Strange cast of characters in that family style restaurant.  Could be a mob hit (friends of Phil) or the Feds taking Tony into custody somewhere where he's unlikely to flee from. Why did the Fed give Tony the lead? What did they mean when Phil bought it and they said "looks like we might win this after all".

The thing with Meadow unable to parallel park in order to build suspense and then just end it like that... man, what a sick bastard Chase is.  I'm sure he won't tick off as many people as Patrick McGohan did with the series end of the Prisoner (talk about nonsensical), but I'm sure he left a bunch of people scratching their heads.  Way to keep people talking about it even after it's done.

gotta love it.  Chase didn't want a typical "let's wrap up every single loose thread" type of series ending.

Who was the guy in the Member's Only jacket?  Strange cast of characters in that family style restaurant.  Could be a mob hit (friends of Phil) or the Feds taking Tony into custody somewhere where he's unlikely to flee from. Why did the Fed give Tony the lead? What did they mean when Phil bought it and they said "looks like we might win this after all".

The thing with Meadow unable to parallel park in order to build suspense and then just end it like that... man, what a sick bastard Chase is.  I'm sure he won't tick off as many people as Patrick McGohan did with the series end of the Prisoner (talk about nonsensical), but I'm sure he left a bunch of people scratching their heads.  Way to keep people talking about it even after it's done.


Two words:

BLUE BALLS.

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gotta love it.  Chase didn't want a typical "let's wrap up every single loose thread" type of series ending.

Who was the guy in the Member's Only jacket?  Strange cast of characters in that family style restaurant.  Could be a mob hit (friends of Phil) or the Feds taking Tony into custody somewhere where he's unlikely to flee from. Why did the Fed give Tony the lead? What did they mean when Phil bought it and they said "looks like we might win this after all".

The thing with Meadow unable to parallel park in order to build suspense and then just end it like that... man, what a sick bastard Chase is.  I'm sure he won't tick off as many people as Patrick McGohan did with the series end of the Prisoner (talk about nonsensical), but I'm sure he left a bunch of people scratching their heads.  Way to keep people talking about it even after it's done.


I think these are just the questions Chase wanted everybody asking....and to make us all paranoid that something was going to happen at the last minute.

I have to admit, I thought the whole thing with the cat was a good "red herring."  Although it didn't have a collar, I thought for sure that it had a wire on it somewhere (up its butt?) and that the feds had released it near the safehouse, knowing that the crew would take it in and become attached to it (and bring it back to the Bing).

I have to admit, I thought the whole thing with the cat was a good "red herring."  Although it didn't have a collar, I thought for sure that it had a wire on it somewhere (up its butt?) and that the feds had released it near the safehouse, knowing that the crew would take it in and become attached to it (and bring it back to the Bing).


LOL 

I thought it was interesting that Tony let it stay.  I also thought it was there in an atempt to make Tony look like he was getting soft.

LOL 

I thought it was interesting that Tony let it stay.  I also thought it was there in an atempt to make Tony look like he was getting soft.


Not to get off-topic, but what's the story with the prairie dog/chipmunk/whatever that thing is in your sig line?

Not to get off-topic, but what's the story with the prairie dog/chipmunk/whatever that thing is in your sig line?


I have no idea.  I just came across it one day and had to have it. ;D

I have no idea.  I just came across it one day and had to have it. ;D
if an animal looked at me like that, I'd slap em' upside his head  ;D 

so is Tony gonna die? No friggin' Way! 

if an animal looked at me like that, I'd slap em' upside his head  ;D 

At least a swift kick across the room. :D

so is Tony gonna die? No friggin' Way! 


Tonight was the last episode and he didn't get whacked.  I was glad.

Tonight was the last episode and he didn't get whacked.  I was glad.


Well, he could have been.

But we'll never know.  ::)

Well, he could have been.

But we'll never know.  ::)



well, that guy at the counter did go into the bathroom.  A subtle Godfather reference I thought.

Well, he could have been.

But we'll never know.  ::)



True, but not in the ending I'm making up. :D 

Ugh!  :o
What the hell was that?! Mr. Chase has the last laugh after all a "no ending" ending.

Cut to black (did anyone else think that that their cable/dish went out at the end like I did?), other than Phil head getting squished (yuk!), no resolutions to anything, life goes on with the Sopranos, we just don't get to see it.

Loved how AJ blew up the "environmentally incorrect" SUV, just so he could get that shiny black BMW M3, we all know how a $50K 400HP autobahn burner is soooo "socially correct and earth friendly"  ::)

So, I guess there is a chance of a Sopranos movie after all?  ;)

What just happened at the end of the episode?

What just happened at the end of the episode?




**WARNING SPOILER ALERT**






Nothing.

Nothing happens.

Tony waits at a family restaurant, plunks in a few coins to play "Don't Stop Believing'"
He looks around and the camera follows suspiciously as he eyes a few different random people in the place (building tension like one of them might be there to whack him out).
and slowly the rest of the family comes in to the booth, except Meadow.

Camera cuts back and forth from Tony at the booth and Meadow having a really hard time parallel parking her car (again building tension, as if there is something going to tragic is going to happen).

Meadow finally parks, comes in sits down, the appetizer of onion rings comes in. Long shot of family sitting at booth.

Screen goes black.  ???

Thats it.

Nothing.

Nothing happens.


Yet, this is what Tony goes through every day.  He spends his time wondering if the next guy through the door is there to arrest him or kill him.

The gun case against Tony is moving forward, that story line got advanced too.

Junior's last remaining money, I supposed we can infer his brain is too addled to remember it anymore, so I doubt anything more was going to happen with that story line.

Janice is clearly turning into her mother, and is going to raise two very messed up kids.

I don't think anything more had to happen.  It was the perfect ending really.  I think people just expected more closure or a tidy happy ending like on a Growing Pains episode or something.

Yet, this is what Tony goes through every day.  He spends his time wondering if the next guy through the door is there to arrest him or kill him.

The gun case against Tony is moving forward, that story line got advanced too.

Junior's last remaining money, I supposed we can infer his brain is too addled to remember it anymore, so I doubt anything more was going to happen with that story line.

Janice is clearly turning into her mother, and is going to raise two very messed up kids.

I don't think anything more had to happen.  It was the perfect ending really.  I think people just expected more closure or a tidy happy ending like on a Growing Pains episode or something.


Yeah, I agree.  I think people expected a big ending with a lot of violence, but I was happy with how it ended. 

Loved how AJ blew up the "environmentally incorrect" SUV, just so he could get that shiny black BMW M3, we all know how a $50K 400HP autobahn burner is soooo "socially correct and earth friendly"  ::)
Hey, it does get 23 mpg, right?  ::) ::) ::)

I take it there are no Sopranos fans here.

You all sicken me!! :D


Actually, I'm a huge fan, but I never had HBO when they were originally on and I just don't watch TV so I'm slowly working my way through on DVD. I'll get back to you in a couple of years.

Have you guys seen the hoopla all over the internet about people being so mad at the ending that they're cancelling their HBO subscriptions?  What's that about?  I thought it was pretty good - weird, but good.  I'm glad Phil got whacked, though I could have done without that crunching noise.  http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/01/barf.gif  Mostly I'm just sad it's all over - no ending could have done justice to the show anyway.

I totally laughed when Agent Harris said "We just might win!"  I love how after all this time, he and Tony have a grudging friendship.

Have you guys seen the hoopla all over the internet about people being so mad at the ending that they're cancelling their HBO subscriptions?  What's that about?  I thought it was pretty good - weird, but good.  I'm glad Phil got whacked, though I could have done without that crunching noise.  http://www.inthe00s.com/smile/01/barf.gif  Mostly I'm just sad it's all over - no ending could have done justice to the show anyway.

I totally laughed when Agent Harris said "We just might win!"  I love how after all this time, he and Tony have a grudging friendship.


I was listening to Howard Stern and they were saying the "We just might win!" line was from an actual case where an agent was rooting for one family over another.  I think that is absurd that people would get rid of HBO because of the ending.  I would get rid of it just because the Sopranos wasn't on anymore, but my husband has a few shows that he likes to see.  Did you hear about the interview yesterday with David Chase explaining the last episode?

Here is a link to an article that talks about the interview with David Chase.

http://blog.silive.com/advanceupdate/2007/06/exclusive_an_interview_with_so.html

I was listening to Howard Stern and they were saying the "We just might win!" line was from an actual case where an agent was rooting for one family over another.  I think that is absurd that people would get rid of HBO because of the ending.  I would get rid of it just because the Sopranos wasn't on anymore, but my husband has a few shows that he likes to see.  Did you hear about the interview yesterday with David Chase explaining the last episode?


Yeah, I read it.  I like how he said something like, we don't know what is going to happen in our own lives, why would we know what happens in theirs.  I totally agree.

Yeah, I read it.  I like how he said something like, we don't know what is going to happen in our own lives, why would we know what happens in theirs.  I totally agree.

Sorry I'm of a totally different viewpoint.

David Chase created this in his own mind and wrote and directed them in his own way and fashion from the beginning. This was not ever, at any point, a study of how life is or how unpredictable it is like it is in our life. The Sopranos was about a NJ mob family, not much else.
The show was popular and had a obviously strong fan base. The true and loyal fans of this show deserved more than that.
I kind of resent his statements, as we all know what the show was about, we were drawn to it because of the problems that resulted in the dual life of family man and gangster and the resulting problems (i.e. reaction/resolution) from that difficult life...and none of us would be watching the life of a mob boss if we expected "nothing" to happen but a sharp blunt cut (not a fade) to black silence at the end of each episode.

He could of chosen to end it in any way he saw fit and that would've done justice to the characters after we had gone with them on their journey for nearly 7-8 years to this point. To say he ended the way it did because "we don't know what is going to happen in our own lives" is total BS to me. He purposely built of a enormous amount of tension and expectation in that episode (especially the last few minutes at the restaurant), and led to no real outcome or release.

TV, movies, entertainment in general is a escape and way to us to look outside of our own lives. We are not looking for a parallel to our own lives when we watched the Sopranos, we were looking for something both entertaining and exciting in the life of a modern day gangster.
To end the show the way he did is a complete artistic cop out and a direct disappointment to the followers of the show. Imagine if this happened in conventional novels, TV, serials and the like. You could get away with it once as a novelty once, sure,  but no one would be interested after their expectations and emotions had been toyed with as a reader or watcher like this.

Look at it this way, had he used this viewpoint from the start, I can assure you we wouldn't of watched any further than the first few minutes on the air, and certainly not the first season, and none of us would of been drawn into it to follow it 7 years later to this "finale".

I wouldn't mind if Mr. Chase came right out and said " I wanted to **ck with their heads", hes done it before, and we were partially expecting some sort of "twist", but don't insult my intelligence in justifying the ending because "we don't know what is going to happen in our own lives" for that ending, thats total crap, and insults my intelligence and the many fans of the show that deserve better.

Oh, and by the way, I've always HATED the song "Don't Stop Believin" and never could stand Journey, so that song at the end did NOT help the situation. Don't believe Tony would of selected that song or would've ever been or ever was a Journey fan...

The canceling HBO thing, well, not a concern for me, you see I downloaded almost every episode this year form BitLord, usually within minutes of it airing on HBO, in HDTV/avi, DVD quality, in 5.1 surround... ;)

Ugh!  :o
What the hell was that?! Mr. Chase has the last laugh after all a "no ending" ending.

Cut to black (did anyone else think that that their cable/dish went out at the end like I did?), other than Phil head getting squished (yuk!), no resolutions to anything, life goes on with the Sopranos, we just don't get to see it.

Loved how AJ blew up the "environmentally incorrect" SUV, just so he could get that shiny black BMW M3, we all know how a $50K 400HP autobahn burner is soooo "socially correct and earth friendly"  ::)

So, I guess there is a chance of a Sopranos movie after all?  ;)

teehee....hubby was cussing at the cable company (since ours does that almost regularly) when the screen went black ;D

Did anyone else spend the last 10-15 minutes guessing what was going to happen?  Hubby and I did ;D

Did anyone else spend the last 10-15 minutes guessing what was going to happen?  Hubby and I did ;D




No!  Nobody talks when they watch the Sopranos with me.


Just kidding.  But the answer is still no.  I was watching alone.

no resolutions to anything, life goes on with the Sopranos, we just don't get to see it.


Correct.  As Tony himself put it, you don't hear anything, you don't see anything, everything just goes black. 

Light travels almost instantaneously.  A bullet is supersonic or at the very least, high-subsonic.  Nerve impulses travel at speeds measured in feet per second.  The bullet can travel the distance from the shooter's barrel to the target's head faster than the target can possibly react to it.  The visual cortex (and everything in front of it) is gone before the nerve impulses from the eyes even reach it.

You can prove this yourself without getting killed.  Have a friend stand 10-20 feet away from you and light the fuse to a firecracker.  The longer the fuse, the better.  If you can discern any interval of time after you see the flash of the firecracker, but before you hear the *bang*, congratulations; you're a cyborg, and you should get on with saving (or hunting down) John Connor.

For the rest of us - and as I switch pop culture gears for the third time in three paragraphs - in the real world, hearing "BOOM!  HEADSHOT!" is a privilege reserved for those still playing the game.

Sorry I'm of a totally different viewpoint.

David Chase created this in his own mind and wrote and directed them in his own way and fashion from the beginning. This was not ever, at any point, a study of how life is or how unpredictable it is like it is in our life. The Sopranos was about a NJ mob family, not much else.
The show was popular and had a obviously strong fan base. The true and loyal fans of this show deserved more than that.
I kind of resent his statements, as we all know what the show was about, we were drawn to it because of the problems that resulted in the dual life of family man and gangster and the resulting problems (i.e. reaction/resolution) from that difficult life...and none of us would be watching the life of a mob boss if we expected "nothing" to happen but a sharp blunt cut (not a fade) to black silence at the end of each episode.

He could of chosen to end it in any way he saw fit and that would've done justice to the characters after we had gone with them on their journey for nearly 7-8 years to this point. To say he ended the way it did because "we don't know what is going to happen in our own lives" is total BS to me. He purposely built of a enormous amount of tension and expectation in that episode (especially the last few minutes at the restaurant), and led to no real outcome or release.

TV, movies, entertainment in general is a escape and way to us to look outside of our own lives. We are not looking for a parallel to our own lives when we watched the Sopranos, we were looking for something both entertaining and exciting in the life of a modern day gangster.
To end the show the way he did is a complete artistic cop out and a direct disappointment to the followers of the show. Imagine if this happened in conventional novels, TV, serials and the like. You could get away with it once as a novelty once, sure,  but no one would be interested after their expectations and emotions had been toyed with as a reader or watcher like this.

Look at it this way, had he used this viewpoint from the start, I can assure you we wouldn't of watched any further than the first few minutes on the air, and certainly not the first season, and none of us would of been drawn into it to follow it 7 years later to this "finale".

I wouldn't mind if Mr. Chase came right out and said " I wanted to **ck with their heads", hes done it before, and we were partially expecting some sort of "twist", but don't insult my intelligence in justifying the ending because "we don't know what is going to happen in our own lives" for that ending, thats total crap, and insults my intelligence and the many fans of the show that deserve better.

Oh, and by the way, I've always HATED the song "Don't Stop Believin" and never could stand Journey, so that song at the end did NOT help the situation. Don't believe Tony would of selected that song or would've ever been or ever was a Journey fan...

The canceling HBO thing, well, not a concern for me, you see I downloaded almost every episode this year form BitLord, usually within minutes of it airing on HBO, in HDTV/avi, DVD quality, in 5.1 surround... ;)


I don't agree that the fans "deserve better".  I happen to like the way the show ended.  You see, any ending that he came up with would have ended up making a number of people mad.  If he had killed Tony, a bunch of people would have been pissed.  If Tony wasn't harmed and his life went on as normal (typical happy ending),  a bunch of people would have been pissed.  There is no way to win.  I don't believe Chase owes us anything.  He made a show......we watched it because it was interesting.  That's it.

I liked the last episode.  i like to fill in the blanks.. I just wonder if there will be a movie?

I don't agree that the fans "deserve better".  I happen to like the way the show ended.  You see, any ending that he came up with would have ended up making a number of people mad.  If he had killed Tony, a bunch of people would have been pissed.  If Tony wasn't harmed and his life went on as normal (typical happy ending),  a bunch of people would have been pissed.  There is no way to win.  I don't believe Chase owes us anything.  He made a show......we watched it because it was interesting.  That's it.


Don't misunderstand, I'm not implying that Tony should of been killed off, just the opposite, was hoping for something more imaginative and creative than what we got.
I'm just noting by the amount of tension that Chase had built up in the last episodes and the last scenes of the finale, that he was not being true to his own writing and direction that he had brought us to...he seemed to be a better writer than that.
Imagine if this were a Stephen King novel/movie, say like "It" and the clown, at the last scene decided he'd go get a burger at McDonald's, totally leaving the kids in the sewer with no resolution.

Either way, noting your comments, we still have an ending were some people are upset at the outcome.

I'll let it go, just upsetting to see yet another great series go out with such a whimper, at least Seinfeld won't be alone in the list of past TV series that left us with less than a respectable ending finale. :P

Don't misunderstand, I'm not implying that Tony should of been killed off, just the opposite, was hoping for something more imaginative and creative than what we got.
I'm just noting by the amount of tension that Chase had built up in the last episodes and the last scenes of the finale, that he was not being true to his own writing and direction that he had brought us to...he seemed to be a better writer than that.
Imagine if this were a Stephen King novel/movie, say like "It" and the clown, at the last scene decided he'd go get a burger at McDonald's, totally leaving the kids in the sewer with no resolution.

Either way, noting your comments, we still have an ending were some people are upset at the outcome.

I'll let it go, just upsetting to see yet another great series go out with such a whimper, at least Seinfeld won't be alone in the list of past TV series that left us with less than a respectable ending finale. :P


Yeah, I can see your point, nobody really wants a mediocre ending.  I wonder if the last episode of M*A*S*H* was this much of a controversy.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/james_gandolfini_shot_by_closure

;D