http://www.kxxv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5785699



They have got to be kidding me!!!
When I read this I saw RED!

A four year old sexually harassing a teacher? C'mon now!
And they won't remove everything from his permanent record!!!!

Thoughts?

Well, see, if it was a run-up straight-up hug, and he sorta crashed into her boobs, then it's okay.

But if he did the Bruuuuumsky, that's a no-no.

What 4 year old is gonna sexually harass a teacher?  It had to of been accidental

To most 4 year old boys, girls are yucky

Well, see, if it was a run-up straight-up hug, and he sorta crashed into her boobs, then it's okay.



Shame that rule doesn't apply when you get older.  ;)



But if he did the Bruuuuumsky, that's a no-no.


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(if it's graphic, PM me)

There are too many stupid people in this country.  Lock them up.

There are too many stupid people in this country.  Lock them up.


That would take a billion prisons that each have a million cells ;D

http://www.kxxv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5785699



They have got to be kidding me!!!
When I read this I saw RED!

A four year old sexually harassing a teacher? C'mon now!
And they won't remove everything from his permanent record!!!!

Thoughts?


This is just another example of how common sense is an oxymoron. 4 year old boys don't have the feelings to form intent to commit sexual harassment. Anyone with a clue knows that.

While I think this situation sucks (sarcasm on) it might be good for "street cred" for this kid. In a few years, when he's in the Crips at 7, he can say "Yo dawgs, I felt up my teacher when I was 4! I'm a playa!" (sarcasm off)

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(if it's graphic, PM me)


Basically it's when you stuff your face into the girl's cleavage and go "BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB" while shaking your head back and forth.  I doubt the kid did that unless his dad was a pervert.

Basically it's when you stuff your face into the girl's cleavage and go "BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB" while shaking your head back and forth.  I doubt the kid did that unless his dad was a pervert.



I believe that's called "the motorboat".

I believe that's called "the motorboat".


My very very sketchy friends/former roommates called it the Brumsky :)

Shakespeare was right, we need to kill all the lawyers.  >:(

And the school officials are just leaving it at denying apology and not getting rid of the paperwork? Bullschitt. I'd be raising so much merry hell about that if it were my kid, that they 'd remove everything and apologize just to shut me up.

He's four f*cking years old.  I highly doubt he formed the thought of, "Oh look, there's my teacher. I'm feeling frisky. Let me go bat at her titties."

Argh. People are so damned stupid about this crap.

And the school officials are just leaving it at denying apology and not getting rid of the paperwork? Bullschitt. I'd be raising so much merry hell about that if it were my kid, that they 'd remove everything and apologize just to shut me up.

He's four f*cking years old.  I highly doubt he formed the thought of, "Oh look, there's my teacher. I'm feeling frisky. Let me go bat at her titties."

Argh. People are so damned stupid about this crap.


I agree. Seriously, I wouldn't doubt this student is black and the teacher is white. Some may laugh the racial connotation off, but it's something worth looking into.

I agree. Seriously, I wouldn't doubt this student is black and the teacher is white. Some may laugh the racial connotation off, but it's something worth looking into.


Sad as it is, that thought had crossed my mind while I was reading the article. :-\\

And the school officials are just leaving it at denying apology and not getting rid of the paperwork? Bullschitt. I'd be raising so much merry hell about that if it were my kid, that they 'd remove everything and apologize just to shut me up.



Why should the aide apologize?  She did not initiate the contact (innocent though it may have been), and ultimately it was the administration who approved the write-up for the "offense".  Besides, even a 4-year-old kid should know not to bury his face in a woman's bodacious rackage and move his head back and forth in an ersatz broomsky.

It is very possible that he did it on a "dare".. 4 year old kids can be very silly.  Bottom line of my commentary is that to think that the AIDE should apologize is crazy.  Asking the administration to apologize?  Perhaps, depends on what actually went down here.



I agree. Seriously, I wouldn't doubt this student is black and the teacher is white. Some may laugh the racial connotation off, but it's something worth looking into.


I saw no indication of race in this article.

I saw no indication of race in this article.


His name is Darmarcus Blackwell (though he could be white, I wouldn't bet on it). The same kind of b.s. is occurring in South Carolina as we speak. Two white female teachers who committed sexual acts with their 11-year old black male students were set free on bail. Let's just say that everyone's not too happy with the slap on the wrist.

Why should the aide apologize?  She did not initiate the contact (innocent though it may have been), and ultimately it was the administration who approved the write-up for the "offense".  Besides, even a 4-year-old kid should know not to bury his face in a woman's bodacious rackage and move his head back and forth in an ersatz broomsky.

It is very possible that he did it on a "dare".. 4 year old kids can be very silly.  Bottom line of my commentary is that to think that the AIDE should apologize is crazy.  Asking the administration to apologize?  Perhaps, depends on what actually went down here.



Ummm...if you're a teacher's aide for a PRESCHOOL, there is a lot of contact with students. Little kids like giving hugs goodbye. So if she didn't want that, then she shouldn't have started working in that job. And nobody said he did a broomsky. Rice mentioned it above because he said IF the child had did that, then it would be inappropriate. But he just hugged her.

Yeah, 4 year olds can be silly, but they're also pretty innocent.

Ummm...if you're a teacher's aide for a PRESCHOOL, there is a lot of contact with students. Little kids like giving hugs goodbye. So if she didn't want that, then she shouldn't have started working in that job. And nobody said he did a broomsky. Rice mentioned it above because he said IF the child had did that, then it would be inappropriate. But he just hugged her.

Yeah, 4 year olds can be silly, but they're also pretty innocent.


Seriously, I think something's not too right with this lady. The parents should see if she's had some mental evaluations. I'm a First-grade teacher. Getting hugs from students comes with the territory. To even suggest something sinister makes me think that this woman's wired wrong.

Seriously, I think something's not too right with this lady. The parents should see if she's had some mental evaluations. I'm a First-grade teacher. Getting hugs from students comes with the territory. To even suggest something sinister makes me think that this woman's wired wrong.


Ah, I knew you were a teacher, but I forgot what grade you taught. So you know how it is with kids. Heck, when I was in high school and did the ROP program with second graders, THEY even liked giving hugs. And I never thought anything as weird as that. They hugged to say goodbye or they hugged to thank me for helping them with their work.

Ah, I knew you were a teacher, but I forgot what grade you taught. So you know how it is with kids. Heck, when I was in high school and did the ROP program with second graders, THEY even liked giving hugs. And I never thought anything as weird as that. They hugged to say goodbye or they hugged to thank me for helping them with their work.


Yeah, I don't get jumpy or nervous with them at all.

Seriously, I think something's not too right with this lady. The parents should see if she's had some mental evaluations. I'm a First-grade teacher. Getting hugs from students comes with the territory. To even suggest something sinister makes me think that this woman's wired wrong.


What I would like to hear is exactly what kind of HUG took place and what did the kid say?

If it was just a kiddie hugging teacher and his face just happened to land in the "forbidden zone" then I agree that teacher is a whack-o.

But I gotta guess here that teacher has gotten LOTS of huggies and there was more to it.  But the news story does not provide much detail.

Why should it matter what kind of hug it was?  You think a 4 year old is capable of having sexual thoughts and then acting on them with another person?  If you think a child is touching you sexually, then the problem is with YOU, not the kid.  I've worked around kids before and I've had my butt grabbed by a kid.  He just grabbed my butt.....he wasn't doing it with the same intent someone much older would.  If the kid was 16 or 17, that's different.  But 4?  Give me a break. 

His name is Darmarcus Blackwell (though he could be white, I wouldn't bet on it). The same kind of b.s. is occurring in South Carolina as we speak. Two white female teachers who committed sexual acts with their 11-year old black male students were set free on bail. Let's just say that everyone's not too happy with the slap on the wrist.


Damarcus Blackwell is a "black" name?  That's like saying the name Kelly Barrington is a "white name" (I work with a black lady by that name) or that Tyrone Washington is a "black" name (I have white coworker by that name too).  All sounds like racial profiling to me.  As an aside I am a white guy and most of the people that I know (other than my immediate family) who have my last name are black.

Female teachers who are involved in sexual situations with male students (white black or otherwise) USUALLY get bail.  Bail is not a dropping of charges or exoneration.

Maeve is a name traditionally associated with the Irish and Irish-Americans.  Does that make it any less true if someone who is French has the name?  No. 

You think a 4 year old is capable of having sexual thoughts and then acting on them with another person? 

In a rudimentary sense, yes.  We're wired that way as human beings.  That's why I think it is important to be careful about exposing children to sexuality before they are intellectually capable of understanding it's ramifications.

Maeve is a name traditionally associated with the Irish and Irish-Americans.  Does that make it any less true if someone who is French has the name?  No. 


Not at all.  But if we start assuming race simply by a person's name, and then extend from that opinions about how they handled a situation (or how a situation was handled that involved them) that is profiling, prejudice, what-have-you.

Damarcus Blackwell is a "black" name?  That's like saying the name Kelly Barrington is a "white name" (I work with a black lady by that name) or that Tyrone Washington is a "black" name (I have white coworker by that name too).  All sounds like racial profiling to me.  As an aside I am a white guy and most of the people that I know (other than my immediate family) who have my last name are black.

Female teachers who are involved in sexual situations with male students (white black or otherwise) USUALLY get bail.  Bail is not a dropping of charges or exoneration.

I'd like to meet a black guy named Olaf Svensen.
:D

In a rudimentary sense, yes.  We're wired that way as human beings.  That's why I think it is important to be careful about exposing children to sexuality before they are intellectually capable of understanding it's ramifications.



I agree with that.  However, what I was more talking about was could a 4 year old touch an adult in a sexual way and fully understand not only what they did but what will happen as a result of them doing it?  I say no.  Children can mimic what they see on TV or what they see people do in front of them, but to me it doesn't mean they actually understand and know what it is they are doing.

In a rudimentary sense, yes.  We're wired that way as human beings.  That's why I think it is important to be careful about exposing children to sexuality before they are intellectually capable of understanding it's ramifications.


I'm with Max on this count.

By the way we warn our kids to watch out for "inappropriate touching" by adults/strangers towards them.

I agree with that.  However, what I was more talking about was could a 4 year old touch an adult in a sexual way and fully understand not only what they did but what will happen as a result of them doing it?  I say no.  Children can mimic what they see on TV or what they see people do in front of them, but to me it doesn't mean they actually understand and know what it is they are doing.

Agreed.

I'd like to meet a black guy named Olaf Svensen.
:D


Heh heh... I work with a supplier whose first name is Anya and her last name is what people would consider to be "white" based on this thread.  She is black. (By the way, she is VERY hot but I digress...)

Anyway we hired a new VP and I was explaining about the suppler's rep Anya.  he said "Anya?  LyricBoy, she's got to be a hot Swedish babe!"  I told him "Well, if she's Swedish then it has to be SOUTHERN Sweden."

Some time later I recounted the story to Anya and we both had a chuckle.  The new VP managed to get himself fired after about 3 months on the job.

Some names are more common in the African-American community than they are in other communities.  For example, I've never met a white guy named Quantavius.  I have however, met an African-American guy with that name.


Quantavius?  That sounds like a Roman name.  Octavius, Januarius, etc...  "Quantavius, deputy to the court of Julius Caesar" or something like that.

Amazing how people misrepresent what names mean.  My middle name is Cornelius and it is a family name.  A few generations ago, my ancestors fancied that Cornelius was an "Irish" name and they commissioned a family tree to be researched.  To their shock and disgust (heh heh) they found that the original Corneliuses were, in fact, Italians, and they had the entire reseacrh document destroyed.  (Cornelius of course being a Roman name, the name of one of the early Christian martyrs).

If I sent somebody an email using my middle name and my last name, 8 out of 10 people would think I am "black".  But I am as white as they come.

I think its the way the world is heading that we see this kind of thing happening. Everyone is so hung up about sexual harrassment and child porn and making sure that their kids are not victims of sick people (which is something every parent should be making sure of) that if a kid touches someone in a way that seems inappropriare, wether its accidentally or on purpose, then just to be on the safe side that person is going to report it. you HAVE to report it for a few reasons...And the biggest most important reason is that if a kid of such a young age is doing things like that then it is more than possible that that child IS being exposed to something sexual at home. Another reason to report it is to simply cover your own ass. I mean, imagine what could have happened if that four year old went home and told his parents that he felt mrs/miss so and so's boobs? The legalities of that would mean that that teacher's aide would not be allowed to work with kids until the case was properly investigated and even once cleared the stigma attached to such things is permenant.

Perhaps the teacher's aide only told the principal to cover herself and it all got out of hand, or perhaps something did happen to start the alarm bells ringing. Now, I realise that people dont like hearing this, but some kids DO develop an advanced sexual (for want of a better word) appetite at such a young age. Now, Im not saying that they know what to do with such appetites, and Im not saying that it would go beyond anything more than 'you can see mine if I can see yours', but everyone is different.

Without knowing the full facts, this can be seen as an over-reaction to something thats innocent in intent...However, as a training teacher myself (training to be a high school teacher) we are told that if alarm bells ring, even if theyre only barely ringing, then the three things you need to do is REPORT REPORT AND REPORT.





AN

When I was four, my rule was "look but don't touch."  It worked then and it works today!
:P

Without knowing the full facts, this can be seen as an over-reaction to something thats innocent in intent...However, as a training teacher myself (training to be a high school teacher) we are told that if alarm bells ring, even if theyre only barely ringing, then the three things you need to do is REPORT REPORT AND REPORT.


AN


AN,

What does the training book say about how to handle a Brumsky situation?

:D

'What does the training book say about how to handle a Brumsky situation?'

LOL!!!

Being a man, I dont think I have to worry about that...But like I said, if alarm bells ring, you have to report it, no matter how innocent it may seem.





AN