I'd say when Third Rock from the Sun ended in Spring of 2001, my '90s were over.

Bush taking office in January 2001, definitely meant the '90s were all over.

Bush taking office in January 2001, definitely meant the '90s were all over.


Yeah, the main reason I think of 2000 as part of the '90s is because we still had Clinton. The Clinton era really coincides with what I think of as the "Nineties world". As '90s as late 1991 and 1992 were pop culturally, I think they were in the "world" of the '80s because the tech boom hadn't really taken off yet.

Although I will say the year 2000 did have an early '00s atmosphere. But the pop culture, attitude, and state of the world were still very '90s.

Although I will say the year 2000 did have an early '00s atmosphere. But the pop culture, attitude, and state of the world were still very '90s.


Pop culture was headed towards the early '00s in 2000, but there were some '90s things left. It's a close call on 2000, really the atmosphere was probably more '00s, but there was still some '90s left and you still had Clinton in office.

Pop culture was headed towards the early '00s in 2000, but there were some '90s things left. It's a close call on 2000, really the atmosphere was probably more '00s, but there was still some '90s left and you still had Clinton in office.


1999 I think still felt like the '90s. If only barely. Aside from Pokemon, the boybands, and South Park the rest of 1999 was pretty '90s-ish I remember.  Really 1999 and the pre-9/11 '00s are kind of both.

1999 I think still felt like the '90s. If only barely. Aside from Pokemon, the boybands, and South Park the rest of 1999 was pretty '90s-ish I remember.  Really 1999 and the pre-9/11 '00s are kind of both.


It's that millennium cusp era, it did feel different than pre-1999, I still think it was just the very end of the '90s and not quite the '00s yet.

The '90s ended in Late 1999

It's that millennium cusp era, it did feel different than pre-1999, I still think it was just the very end of the '90s and not quite the '00s yet.


Yeah I agree. 1997 and 1998 kind of had some of that feeling to. 1997 and '98 were kind of a fusion of 1995-1996 stuff and 1999-2000 stuff.

The '90s ended in Late 1999


Pop culturally, yes.

The '90s ended in Late 1999


Well technically of course they did. But the feel of them I'd say spanned from the Summer of 1991 to the Spring of 2001.

Pop culturally, I'd say they were more restricted. Probably went from about fall of 1991 to summer of 1998 in the most restricted sense.

Well technically of course they did. But the feel of them I'd say spanned from the Summer of 1991 to the Spring of 2001.


I don't agree.  And I didn't mean the '90s ended in Late 1999 in a "Technical term", I meant they ended around September 1999, not December

Everything from Music and Movies and the overall Feel changed to the '00s in the Fall of 1999

Pop culturally, I'd say they were more restricted. Probably went from about fall of 1991 to summer of 1998 in the most restricted sense.


That's true, though I would probably extend it until around the end of 1998.

I don't agree.  And I didn't mean the '90s ended in Late 1999 in a "Technical term", I meant they ended around September 1999, not December

Everything from Music and Movies and the overall Feel changed to the '00s in the Fall of 1999


Oh I see.

I think as far as Television goes fall of '99 was the beginning of the '00s. That was when the utterly '00s Spongebob came out (actually I think SB began in July).

Early 1999 definitely still felt like the '90s.  I remember when I went back home to California in March of '99 it was a very late '90s atmosphere. When I went back again in 2002, it was totally different.

When I think of the '90s, I think of a year such as 1993, where "Adult Contemp." pretty much dominated the charts and everything just felt "Mellow" and not Up-Tempo like the 00's

When I think of the '00s, I think of Boy Bands, Teenage Pop, Rap, and Punk Rock.  And all of that began to take form around September 1999

When I think of the '90s, I think of a year such as 1993, where "Adult Contemp." pretty much dominated the charts and everything just felt "Mellow" and not Up-Tempo like the 00's

When I think of the '00s, I think of Boy Bands, Teenage Pop, Rap, and Punk Rock.  And all of that began to take form around September 1999


Boy bands are not 2000s, they are late '90s. If Boy bands died at the beginning of this decade (2001) how are they '00s? They're a late '90s thing.

Boy bands are not 2000s, they are late '90s. If Boy bands died at the beginning of this decade (2001) how are they '00s? They're a late '90s thing.


Which is again why the late '90s have relatively little to do with the early '90s. The early '90s was characterized by grunge and grime, by the late '90s everything totally cheesed out.  Boy bands are Nineties because their span was 1997-2001, which is primarily in the 1990s.

I'd say when Third Rock from the Sun ended in Spring of 2001, my '90s were over.

That's a buncha poppycock.

WILL YOU STOP THESE INANE THREADS ALREADY?? THEY NEVER MAKE ANY SENSE.

That's true, though I would probably extend it until around the end of 1998.


Yeah, my theory is the "real '90s" ended when Baby One More Time came out in December of '98.

Boy bands are not 2000s, they are late '90s. If Boy bands died at the beginning of this decade (2001) how are they '00s? They're a late '90s thing.


Well then I guess that makes the Late '90s, the Early '00s  ;D

It sure doesn't have the same feeling as the overall '90s does.  I still put the "Boy Band" Era in the Early '00s category, especially since the peak of Boy Bands was in 1999/2000 when I personally feel the '00s began and the '90s ended

Yeah, my theory is the "real '90s" ended when Baby One More Time came out in December of '98.

I'm afraid I'm with Guest here. There is no such thing as "the real _0s" (fill in the blank with any digit).

Yeah, my theory is the "real '90s" ended when Baby One More Time came out in December of '98.


That really did it, lol. That began the 1999-early 2001 millennial cusp era.

Well then I guess that makes the Late '90s, the Early '00s  ;D

It sure doesn't have the same feeling as the overall '90s does.  I still put the "Boy Band" Era in the Early '00s category, especially since the peak of Boy Bands was in 1999/2000 when I personally feel the '00s began and the '90s ended


Well yeah, boy bands would fit better in 2004 than 1994. But they'd fit best in 1999.

Well then I guess that makes the Late '90s, the Early '00s  ;D

It sure doesn't have the same feeling as the overall '90s does.  I still put the "Boy Band" Era in the Early '00s category, especially since the peak of Boy Bands was in 1999/2000 when I personally feel the '00s began and the '90s ended


The late '90s are definitely close to the '00s than the early '90s, that's for sure. If anything I put in between the true '90s and true '00s eras.

To me, the "Boy Band" Era is to the Early 00's as the "Grunge" Era is to the Early '90s.  They both only lasted about 2 or 3 years at the most and died out early in the decade

The late '90s are definitely close to the '00s than the early '90s, that's for sure. If anything I put in between the true '90s and true '00s eras.


The '90s were such a fast-changing decade it's hard to pinpoint anything as being "Nineties". For instance 1992 was probably as much like 1989 as it was like 1997.

To me, the "Boy Band" Era is to the Early 00's as the "Grunge" Era is to the Early '90s.  They both only lasted about 2 or 3 years at the most and died out early in the decade


There's a difference though. Grunge existed in a washed-out form even as late as the mid '00s. The boy bands died almost overnight, although I guess they do live on in the tabloids, so you have a point there.

The late '90s are definitely close to the '00s than the early '90s, that's for sure. If anything I put in between the true '90s and true '00s eras.


Definitely. 1998 is way more like 2006 than it is like 1990.

To me, the "Boy Band" Era is to the Early 00's as the "Grunge" Era is to the Early '90s.  They both only lasted about 2 or 3 years at the most and died out early in the decade


grunge lasted in the mainstream from 1991- mid '90s all '90s, the boy bands lasted 1997- 2001 still so very early in this decade and primarily in the '90s. Let's just say it's an in between era, that's not true '90s or true '00s.  :)

grunge lasted in the mainstream from 1991- mid '90s all '90s, the boy bands lasted 1997- 2001 still so very early in this decade and primarily in the '90s. Let's just say it's an in between era, that's not true '90s or true '00s.  :)


Yeah, it really wasn't either. I guess you could say it was transitional, but c. 1999 really had a spirit of its own. It's almost like a "lost decade" :)

The '90s were such a fast-changing decade it's hard to pinpoint anything as being "Nineties". For instance 1992 was probably as much like 1989 as it was like 1997.


Which is why I consider 1993 to be "THE" definitive '90s year.  It was totally different from 1992 and 1994 and had it's own identity kind of

Then Pop Music started to form again in Early 1994 and continued through the rest of the decade

Which is why I consider 1993 to be "THE" definitive '90s year.  It was totally different from 1992 and 1994 and had it's own identity kind of

Then Pop Music started to form again in Early 1994 and continued through the rest of the decade


Yeah. Of course I can barely remember 1993  ;D

Which is why I consider 1993 to be "THE" definitive '90s year.  It was totally different from 1992 and 1994 and had it's own identity kind of

Then Pop Music started to form again in Early 1994 and continued through the rest of the decade


I think I would agree with you on 1993, it is probably the most '90s year.

I think I would agree with you on 1993, it is probably the most '90s year.


Even 1994 was a bit washed out.  The least '90s year was 1990, followed by 1991 and 1999.

Yeah. Of course I can barely remember 1993  ;D


I was at my grandma's yesterday and they save all kinds of papers and I was looking at an old ad from 1993, my god did it look so dated. It really seems so long ago now.

I was at my grandma's yesterday and they save all kinds of papers and I was looking at an old ad from 1993, my god did it look so dated. It really seems so long ago now.


Yeah i know. Well it is 13 years ago. It's as long ago now as 1980 was then.

9/11.


It ended a lot in my mind.

Yeah i know. Well it is 13 years ago. It's as long ago now as 1980 was then.


It really was a different time and I was there, even though at 6 I didn't care a whole lot, lol. I'm glad I could remember some things anyways.

Yeah i know. Well it is 13 years ago. It's as long ago now as 1980 was then.

Now there's something I can actually agree with you on. Especially since '80 was when I was born. In fact, I turned 26 just a couple weeks ago.

Now there's something I can actually agree with you on. Especially since '80 was when I was born. In fact, I turned 26 just a couple weeks ago.


Happy Birthday.  :) Today is my birthday actually.

Now there's something I can actually agree with you on. Especially since '80 was when I was born. In fact, I turned 26 just a couple weeks ago.


Happy Birthday :)

Happy Birthday.  :) Today is my birthday actually.
Thanks, but it was the 2nd.

Happy birthday to you. Are you 19? I saw that on the front page under the Calendar.

Thanks, but it was the 2nd.

Happy birthday to you. Are you 19? I saw that on the front page under the Calendar.


Yep I'm 19 today.

Happy Birthday :)
Thank you, Double D, but like I said, it was on the 2nd. I even stopped by here on that day.

Yeah i know. Well it is 13 years ago. It's as long ago now as 1980 was then.


It's funny, but I remember 1993 as much as any other '90s year.  That was the year I started my 2nd year of "T-Ball" League and we went undefeated and won the Championship that year (Again, like we did the previous year)

I also remember my Baby Cousin was born in April that year.  I remember seeing "Jurassic Park" in Theaters  in June.  I also remember "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers" premiering and watching it every morning before school started

Thank you, Double D, but like I said, it was on the 2nd. I even stopped by here on that day.


Why don't you become a member dude? :)

It's funny, but I remember 1993 as much as any other '90s year.  That was the year I started my 2nd year of "T-Ball" League and we went undefeated and won the Championship that year (Again, like we did the previous year)

I also remember my Baby Cousin was born in April that year.  I remember seeing "Jurassic Park" in Theaters  in June.  I also remember "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers" premiering and watching it every morning before school started


Well if you were born in 1986 you would be 7 then. I can remember some things about 1997 almost like yesterday.

It's funny, but I remember 1993 as much as any other '90s year.  That was the year I started my 2nd year of "T-Ball" League and we went undefeated and won the Championship that year (Again, like we did the previous year)

I also remember my Baby Cousin was born in April that year.  I remember seeing "Jurassic Park" in Theaters  in June.  I also remember "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers" premiering and watching it every morning before school started


Yea I remember it fairly well, though it seems like it seems so ancient now. I also have a cousin born in 1993 and I do remember her being born. I used to watch a lot of Power Rangers as well. Summer 1993 I remember we went to Ohio State fair, I also remember starting first grade on August 25, 1993.

Yea I remember it fairly well, though it seems like it seems so ancient now. I also have a cousin born in 1993 and I do remember her being born. I used to watch a lot of Power Rangers as well. Summer 1993 I remember we went to Ohio State fair, I also remember starting first grade on August 25, 1993.


I don't actually remember when my sister was born in 1994, but I do remember the time before she was born. Which is why I see people born in 1994 and later as "babies" even if they're 12 now.

I don't actually remember when my sister was born in 1994, but I do remember the time before she was born. Which is why I see people born in 1994 and later as "babies" even if they're 12 now.


Man those kids were just like 5 years old when I was in Junior High, lol.

Man those kids were just like 5 years old when I was in Junior High, lol.


;D

But in spite of that, I still consider 1994ers, and even 1995ers, just BARELY in with us late '80s and early '90s kids, and not with late '90s and early '00s kids generation-wise.

;D

But in spite of that, I still consider 1994ers, and even 1995ers, just BARELY in with us late '80s and early '90s kids, and not with late '90s and early '00s kids generation-wise.


Yea I think they're barely with us, as they get older they do seem close enough.

I was just looking at a list of the "Billboard's Top 100 Songs of 1993" and it's amazing how 95% of it is dominated by "R&B".  Kind of Proving my point that "R&B" was the Genre of the '90s.  Here's the list

# 1. I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston
# 2. Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team
# 3. Can't Help Falling In Love - UB40
# 4. That's The Way Love Goes - Janet Jackson
# 5. Freak Me - Silk
# 6. Weak - SWV
# 7. If I Ever Fall In Love - Shai
# 8. Dreamlover - Mariah Carey
# 9. Rump Shaker - Wreckx-N-Effect
# 10. Informer - Snow
# 11. Nuthin' But A "G" Thang - Dr. Dre
# 12. In The Still Of The Nite - Boyz II Men
# 13. Don't Walk Away - Jade
# 14. Knockin' Da Boots - H-Town
# 15. Lately - Jodeci
# 16. Dazzey Duks - Duice
# 17. Show Me Love - Robin S.
# 18. A Whole New World - Peabo Bryson & Regina Belle
# 19. If - Janet Jackson
# 20. I'm So Into You - SWV
# 21. Love Is - Vanessa Willlams & Brian Mcknight
# 22. Runaway Train - Soul Asylum
# 23. I'll Never Get Over You (Getting Over Me) - Expose
# 24. Ditty - Paperboy
# 25. Rhythm Is A Dancer - Snap
# 26. The River Of Dreams - Billy Joel
# 27. I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - Proclaimers
# 28. Two Princes - Spin Doctors
# 29. Right Here (Human Nature)-Downtown - SWV
# 30. I Have Nothing - Whitney Houston
# 31. Mr. Wendal - Arrested Development
# 32. Have I Told You Lately - Rod Stewart
# 33. Saving Forever For You - Shanice
# 34. Ordinary World - Duran Duran
# 35. If I Had No Loot - Tony! Toni! Tone!
# 36. I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) - Meat Loaf
# 37. Slam - Onyx
# 38. Looking Through Patient Eyes - P.M. Dawn
# 39. I'm Every Woman - Whitney Houston
# 40. Baby I'm Yours - Shai
# 41. Come Undone - Duran Duran
# 42. I Don't Wanna Fight - Tina Turner
# 43. I'd Die Without You - P.M. Dawn
# 44. Whoot, There It Is - 95 South
# 45. Hip Hop Hooray - Naughty By Nature
# 46. Another Sad Love Song - Toni Braxton
# 47. Will You Be There - Michael Jackson
# 48. Comforter - Shil
# 49. Good Enough - Bobby Brown
# 50. What's Up - 4 Non Blondes
# 51. All That She Wants - Ace Of Base
# 52. 7 - Prince & The New Power Generation
# 53. Dre Day - Dr. Dre
# 54. One Last Cry - Brian McKnight
# 55. Just Kickin' It - Xscape
# 56. I Get Around - 2Pac
# 57. Bed Of Roses - Bon Jovi
# 58. Real Love - Mary J. Blige
# 59. Here We Go Again! - Portrait
# 60. Cryin' - Aerosmith
# 61. Cats In The Cradle - Ugly Kid Joe
# 62. What About Your Friends - TLC
# 63. I Got A Man - Positive K
# 64. Hey Mr. D.J. - Zhane
# 65. Insane In The Brain - Cypress Hill
# 66. Deeper And Deeper - Madonna
# 67. Rain - Madonna
# 68. The Right Kind Of Love - Jeremy Jordan
# 69. Bad Boys - Inner Circle
# 70. That's What Love Can Do - Boy Krazy
# 71. Do You Believe In Us - Jon Secada
# 72. Angel - Jon Secada
# 73. Forever In Love - Kenny G
# 74. Again - Janet Jackson
# 75. Boom! Shake The Room - Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince
# 76. When She Cries - Restless Heart
# 77. Sweat (A La La La La Long) - Inner Circle
# 78. It Was A Good Day - Ice Cube
# 79. More And More - Captain Hollywood Project
# 80. How Do You Talk To An Angel - Heights
# 81. Rebirth Of Slick (Cool Like Dat) - Digable Planets
# 82. What Is Love - Haddaway
# 83. To Love Somebody - Michael Bolton
# 84. Give It Up, Turn It Loose - En Vogue
# 85. Alright - Kris Kross
# 86. Check Yo Self - Ice Cube
# 87. Fields Of Gold - Sting
# 88. Ooh Child - Dino
# 89. Faithful - Go West
# 90. Reason To Believe - Rod Stewart
# 91. Break It Down Again - Tears For Fears
# 92. Nothin' My Love Can't Fix - Joey Lawrence
# 93. Three Little Pigs - Green Jelly
# 94. Livin' On The Edge - Aerosmith
# 95. Hey Jealousy - Gin Blossoms
# 96. If I Ever Lose My Faith In You - Sting
# 97. Anniversary - Tony! Toni! Tone!
# 98. One Woman - Jade
# 99. Can't Get Enough Of Your Love - Taylor Dayne
# 100. Two Steps Behind - Def Leppard

I was just looking at a list of the "Billboard's Top 100 Songs of 1993" and it's amazing how 95% of it is dominated by "R&B".  Kind of Proving my point that "R&B" was the Genre of the '90s.  Here's the list



I agree R&B was very dominate then.

I agree R&B was very dominate then.



A lot of those songs are also rap.  Gangsta Rap was just starting to come into the music scene in 1993 in terms of popularity.  I knew a lot of kids I went to school with who were walking around rapping like Dr. Dre.

A lot of those songs are also rap.  Gangsta Rap was just starting to come into the music scene in 1993 in terms of popularity.  I knew a lot of kids I went to school with who were walking around rapping like Dr. Dre.


Yea I do remember hearing a lot about rap, though I was just a little kid. I was definitely aware of it so it must have been quite popular.

"Gangsta Rap" was pretty much only popular in 1993.  Dr.Dre and Ice Cube didn't really have any more Hits in the '90s except for 1993

Gangsta Rap is Crap anyhow

When I think of the '90s, I think of a year such as 1993, where "Adult Contemp." pretty much dominated the charts and everything just felt "Mellow" and not Up-Tempo like the 00's

When I think of the '00s, I think of Boy Bands, Teenage Pop, Rap, and Punk Rock.  And all of that began to take form around September 1999


Honey...boy bands began in 1997, even 1996. Teenage pop and boy bands have died down since the real '00s took place.

There was one atmosphere change around Sept. of 1999, I think, but where I was, 9/11 mattered so much. 1999-2000 still felt like the '90s, with the success of TLC, etc. and "A/C"-type radio, even. Also, people's attitudes were very '90s, DVDs were not popular yet, etc. There was another change around Sept. 2000 with the DVDs beginning to rise, the economy taking a hit, reality TV coming out, etc. Then Sept. 2001 was a change because of 9/11 (though who cared about pop culture in fall 2001, lol)?  There was also a big change around the summer of 2003, after 50 Cent and when emo became a term.

My symbolic start of the 00's is Mid 2001. There was a serious change in the atmosphere around 9/11.

Honey...boy bands began in 1997, even 1996. Teenage pop and boy bands have died down since the real '00s took place.

There was one atmosphere change around Sept. of 1999, I think, but where I was, 9/11 mattered so much. 1999-2000 still felt like the '90s, with the success of TLC, etc. and "A/C"-type radio, even. Also, people's attitudes were very '90s, DVDs were not popular yet, etc. There was another change around Sept. 2000 with the DVDs beginning to rise, the economy taking a hit, reality TV coming out, etc. Then Sept. 2001 was a change because of 9/11 (though who cared about pop culture in fall 2001, lol)?  There was also a big change around the summer of 2003, after 50 Cent and when emo became a term.


What the Hell?  "Honey"?  First off, I'm not Female, secondly, I'm older than you

You sit here and talk to me as if you know more about '90s Music than I do, shame on you Sweetheart  :P

You're 19, he's 16.  I don't see telling someone who's three years younger than you that you're older than they are as much of a threat.

Also, velvetoneo knows his sh*t.

I'd say when Third Rock from the Sun ended in Spring of 2001, my '90s were over.


Third Rock from the Sun...I remember that show!  ;D ;D ;D

What the Hell?  "Honey"?  First off, I'm not Female, secondly, I'm older than you

You sit here and talk to me as if you know more about '90s Music than I do, shame on you Sweetheart  :P


Don't you love these threads? *shakes head*

I think we can see you're not female, mate, so unless you feel uncomfortable being addressed by that saccharine noun  ;D

I'll consult the 8-ball on the matter.

So, 8 ball, when did the 00s begin?

8 ball: When Trimac20 says it did!

In my job, there was so much hoopla over the Y2K issue with computers and we spent so much money getting our computer calendars fixed so that everything date-related would screw up when 2000 came....that's the first thing that comes to mind.

Otherwise, I have not idea.  My life was a train-wreck then and I was too focused on current events in my home to care much about anything else that was going on.

My symbolic start of the 00's is Mid 2001. There was a serious change in the atmosphere around 9/11.

How could you say that? 00s is not a sybolic term. Neither are any other decade names.

Look, I know it probably felt like the start of a new era then, but these threads have gotten way outta hand.

I have to agree with the person who said this:

That's a buncha poppycock.

WILL YOU STOP THESE INANE THREADS ALREADY?? THEY NEVER MAKE ANY SENSE.

Let's just say the '00s beagn on Jan. 1, 2000, lol.

Definitely 9/11. I was in high school mostly in the late '90s but graduated in June 2001, and then I started university on September 10 later that year. The transition from grade school to a new life of your own fashioning is already a big deal -- add to that the fact that world-changing terrorist attacks happened on only my second day of university, and it's difficult for me not to see 9/11 as a symbolic demarcation point between the '90s and '00s on a personal level. And everything that has ensued since - the Iraq War and all the other shenanigans with George W. Bush - is what I'll always associate with my university years. It's a different world than it was when I was in high school, for sure.

Definitely 9/11. I was in high school mostly in the late '90s but graduated in June 2001, and then I started university on September 10 later that year. Obviously, the transition from grade school to a new life of your own fashioning is already a big deal -- add to that the fact that world-changing terrorist attacks happened on only my second day of university, and it's difficult for me not to see 9/11 as a symbolic demarcation point between the '90s and '00s on a personal level.


I agree. 9/11 was so big, and since this is basically the 9/11 decade I see that event as the beginning of the '00s.

How could you say that? 00s is not a sybolic term. Neither are any other decade names.

Look, I know it probably felt like the start of a new era then, but these threads have gotten way outta hand.

I have to agree with the person who said this:



If you don't like a thread, don't post in it.  Telling other people you don't like it makes no sense.

If you don't like a thread, don't post in it.  Telling other people you don't like it makes no sense.


Yea I don't get some people, just ignore it, lol.  ::)

Yea I don't get some people, just ignore it, lol.  ::)


I would respect Ellipsis more if he became a member  ;)

Definitely 9/11. I was in high school mostly in the late '90s but graduated in June 2001, and then I started university on September 10 later that year. The transition from grade school to a new life of your own fashioning is already a big deal -- add to that the fact that world-changing terrorist attacks happened on only my second day of university, and it's difficult for me not to see 9/11 as a symbolic demarcation point between the '90s and '00s on a personal level. And everything that has ensued since - the Iraq War and all the other shenanigans with George W. Bush - is what I'll always associate with my university years. It's a different world than it was when I was in high school, for sure.



Completely agree.  I was a sophomore in college when 9/11 happened, although I was home from school that day instead of in class.  Even my opinion of flying changed after 9/11.  I can't imagine what this decade would be like if it hadn't happened; it had such a profound impact on this country.

Completely agree.  I was a sophomore in college when 9/11 happened, although I was home from school that day instead of in class.  Even my opinion of flying changed after 9/11.  I can't imagine what this decade would be like if it hadn't happened; it had such a profound impact on this country.


9/11 definitely changed the world, it sure was proof that the '90s were most certainly gone.

Also, 5*19*86...I was 8 in the late '90s, c. 1998, and every girl had a Backstreet Boys folder. And thank you, Sister Morphine, for defending me.

Also, 5*19*86...I was 8 in the late '90s, c. 1998, and every girl had a Backstreet Boys folder. And thank you, Sister Morphine, for defending me.


I agree. If you believe that a 1990er's "time" begins in 2000, you should believe yours begins in 1996.

Also, 5*19*86...I was 8 in the late '90s, c. 1998, and every girl had a Backstreet Boys folder. And thank you, Sister Morphine, for defending me.


Heck my nephew born in 1992 was very much into the late '90s.

Heck my nephew born in 1992 was very much into the late '90s.


It's really 1994+ that's totally clueless about the '90s.

Also, 5*19*86...I was 8 in the late '90s, c. 1998, and every girl had a Backstreet Boys folder. And thank you, Sister Morphine, for defending me.


Here we go again

First off, I was 11/12/13 in the Late '90s, I obviously no more about it than you do.  And believe it or not, Boy Bands were most popular with girls in my age range at the time.  I know when Boy Bands became super popular, so quit trying to act as if I'm completely dumb to the subject

And you should not thank "Sister Morphine" for anything, she isn't worth it

It's really 1994+ that's totally clueless about the '90s.


Yea about 1994 +.

Yeah, how can you say boy bands are an '00s thing? See any boy bands today? The boy bands were like 1997-2001 or so...'

Yeah, how can you say boy bands are an '00s thing? See any boy bands today? The boy bands were like 1997-2001 or so...'




Yea they're a '90s thing, and most people agree. This decade is not about boy bands, it's about crunk hip-hop and emo.

How could you say that? 00s is not a sybolic term. Neither are any other decade names.

Look, I know it probably felt like the start of a new era then, but these threads have gotten way outta hand.




Look dude, I didn't start this thread I just replied so why don't you take this up with the person that did ???

Yeah, how can you say boy bands are an '00s thing? See any boy bands today? The boy bands were like 1997-2001 or so...'





Yeah, I agree. 1997-2001 was the period that boy bands were most popular. After late 2001 they faded out dramatically.

Here we go again

First off, I was 11/12/13 in the Late '90s, I obviously no more about it than you do.  And believe it or not, Boy Bands were most popular with girls in my age range at the time.  I know when Boy Bands became super popular, so quit trying to act as if I'm completely dumb to the subject

And you should not thank "Sister Morphine" for anything, she isn't worth it


and the award for ass of the year goes to 5*19*86.  I'd give you an award, but you aren't worth it  ::)

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Gee, thanks for the support  ::)

Am I worth an award?  ;D



Yes you are.  You get the "Best Character Reference From a Jake Gyllenhaal Movie" award.

Yes you are.  You get the "Best Character Reference From a Jake Gyllenhaal Movie" award.


Thanks Sis  :)  ;D

So, what does everyone think of Whistledog now?

Surely it doesn't seem to be OK for me to insult Sister Morphine, hopefully people don't use a Double Standard in this case and let Whistledog off the hook...


You've been insulting ever since you joined the boards.  As I recall, in your Lenny Kravitz poll, you insulted me simply because I nicely stated that he had more hits than you mentioned.  Then, I guess you deleted the whole poll.  That's very immature  ::)

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Wrong, the only person i've insulted on these boards is "Sister Morphine"

That was not an insult in the Lenny Kravitz thread.  You simply listed a bunch of songs that were not hits, and I pointed that out.  Your definition of "Hits" differs from most people


What's you definition of a hit? I'm just wondering, mine is probably something that reaches the top 40 of the hot 100.

http://top40.about.com/od/top10lists/tp/boyband10.htm

Technically, boy bands began in the 60's with The Monkees
And up until 2004 with the breakup of B2K.

I'm sure somewhere in that time frame there were more than that listed in the top 10.



We were discussing when Boy Bands became popular in the Late '90s.  Not any other decade

What's you definition of a hit? I'm just wondering, mine is probably something that reaches the top 40 of the hot 100.


Around the same, but more so Top 30, maybe Top 25

Wrong, the only person i've insulted on these boards is "Sister Morphine"

That was not an insult in the Lenny Kravitz thread.  You simply listed a bunch of songs that were not hits, and I pointed that out.  Your definition of "Hits" differs from most people


My definition of hits are according to the music industry.  Why else do you think Billboard publishes a Hot 100 chart?  Again, you are never gonna understand, so I'm not gonna waste my time

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Ignorance is a beautiful thing when shown in broad daylight.
I am done with this thread.


Yeah, you're the Ignorant one.  Clearly it looks to me as if Whistledog decided to sic his "FlashChat" buddies on me in this thread (Very mature for a 29 year old  ::))

And since you're the ignorant one, you have no idea of what we were even talking about.  Our discussion was when Boy Bands became Super Popular in the Late '90s/Early '00s (Like when the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync were hitting #1 on the charts)  And we were debating whether or not Boy Bands is a '90s thing or an '00s thing

Next time, learn about what you're replying to before making yourself look dumb, sweetheart

NSYNC's first album was released in 1999, but they didn't achieve mainstream success until 2000 with the release of No Strings Attached.  It sold something like 2 million copies in the first week.  The BSB didn't even explode onto the scene until 2000 with Millenium.  A lot of these bands began in 1998 and 1999, but the real teen pop boom didn't hit until 2000.  You had Mandy Moore, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, BSB, NSYNC, 98 Degrees, et al., all releasing albums in 2000-2002.  Boy bands were very much a 00's thing. 

NSYNC's first album was released in 1999, but they didn't achieve mainstream success until 2000 with the release of No Strings Attached.  It sold something like 2 million copies in the first week.  The BSB didn't even explode onto the scene until 2000 with Millenium.  A lot of these bands began in 1998 and 1999, but the real teen pop boom didn't hit until 2000.  You had Mandy Moore, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, BSB, NSYNC, 98 Degrees, et al., all releasing albums in 2000-2002.  Boy bands were very much a 00's thing. 


Thank You.  This is exactly the point I was trying to get across earlier in this thread, that Boy bands are more of an '00s thing

Thankfully, they are pretty much non-existant today

NSYNC's first album was released in 1999, but they didn't achieve mainstream success until 2000 with the release of No Strings Attached.  It sold something like 2 million copies in the first week.  The BSB didn't even explode onto the scene until 2000 with Millenium.  A lot of these bands began in 1998 and 1999, but the real teen pop boom didn't hit until 2000.  You had Mandy Moore, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, BSB, NSYNC, 98 Degrees, et al., all releasing albums in 2000-2002.  Boy bands were very much a 00's thing. 


NSYNC's first album came out in February 1998, and I Want You Back was a huge song in 98 as well. They were definitely mainstream and successful before 2000, though their biggest year was 2000 yes.

NSYNC's first album came out in February 1998, and I Want You Back was a huge song in 98 as well. They were definitely mainstream and successful before 2000, though their biggest year was 2000 yes.



I was just referencing the band, but the boy band craze didn't take off until 2000.  BSB and NSYNC were the first, but all those other bands that followed didn't come until after their two biggest albums, Millenium and No Strings Attached, respectively.

I was just referencing the band, but the boy band craze didn't take off until 2000.  BSB and NSYNC were the first, but all those other bands that followed didn't come until after their two biggest albums, Millenium and No Strings Attached, respectively.


We got the boy band craze from the UK.  Take That stormed the UK charts in 1991 and became media sensations, which launched more UK boy bands like Boyzone, Westlife, 5ive and 911.  Then the Backstreet Boys popped up in 1996, and America had officially caught the Boy Band craze :)

Thank You.  This is exactly the point I was trying to get across earlier in this thread, that Boy bands are more of an '00s thing

Thankfully, they are pretty much non-existant today


They're a late '90s thing.

Also, 5*19*86...I was 8 in the late '90s, c. 1998, and every girl had a Backstreet Boys folder. And thank you, Sister Morphine, for defending me.


The Backstreet Boy's main fan-base was the 8-13 age group, although I know many people who acted as if Boy Bands were still the hottest thing around well into the 00s (believe me, I had to carpool with another student for awhile, and all that was on the radio was boy bands).

The boy band craze was Y2Kish...I think of Crazy Town, 98 Degrees , O-Town, etc. as second-generation boy bands from about 2000-2001 that never achieved the popularity or fan base of N*Sync or the Backstreet Boys. BSB first came out when I was in 2nd grade, around '97-'98, and I see as peaking when I was in 4th grade, actually during Y2K. N*Sync's one #1 hit was "It's Gonna Be Me", in the summer of 2000, when the tooth was just coming off the Y2K era. The rest of the boy bands were really one hit wonders. I see the craze as peaking around 1999-2000. I know 5*19*86 considers that the '00s. I consider it the '90s. Not the real '90s...the Y2K style '90s. Doesn't mean it was the '00s. It's way too cheesy for late 2001+.

The other big one was the Irish group 'Westlife', which was probably most popular about 2000-01.

The other big one was the Irish group 'Westlife', which was probably most popular about 2000-01.


The whole thing peaked within the surrounding year on either end of Y2K, and probably peaked around Y2K or shortly thereafter, like spring 2000.

NSYNC's first album was released in 1999, but they didn't achieve mainstream success until 2000 with the release of No Strings Attached.  It sold something like 2 million copies in the first week.  The BSB didn't even explode onto the scene until 2000 with Millenium.  A lot of these bands began in 1998 and 1999, but the real teen pop boom didn't hit until 2000.  You had Mandy Moore, Jessica Simpson, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, BSB, NSYNC, 98 Degrees, et al., all releasing albums in 2000-2002.  Boy bands were very much a 00's thing. 


I'll have to disagree, and say they were slightly more of a late 90s thing than a 00s thing. They were already dying out by 2002, whereas I believe the Backstreet Boys were founded in 1996, and Savage Garden, Boyz II Men were  BIG in 96, 97.etc. Little trace of that in 2003.

I'll have to disagree, and say they were slightly more of a late 90s thing than a 00s thing. They were already dying out by 2002, whereas I believe the Backstreet Boys were founded in 1996, and Savage Garden, Boyz II Men were  BIG in 96, 97.etc. Little trace of that in 2003.


They're '90s by date. However they'd fit better in 2004 than they would in 1994.

They're way too corny for 2004...there were already groups like New Kids on the Block and New Edition in the early '90s. I think the boy band idea fits very well with 1994, actually...for the preteen set they're targeted to.

Indeed, smultzy vocal groups singing love songs were a very 90s thing - even more so than today - if anyone is old enough to remember. Boy Bands were quite popular through ALL years of the 90s, believe it or not, yet were only popular in the first two years of the 2000s.

The whole thing peaked within the surrounding year on either end of Y2K, and probably peaked around Y2K or shortly thereafter, like spring 2000.



Yeah. The spring of 2000 does seem like the absolute peak of the late 90's boy band craze.

The 90's ended on 9/11/01 for me.

It seems opinions are torn between 1999 and 2001 (specifically Sept. 11) as the true start of the 90s, of course there's no right answer: except that it started on the 1st January 2000!

It seems opinions are torn between 1999 and 2001 (specifically Sept. 11) as the true start of the 90s, of course there's no right answer: except that it started on the 1st January 2000!


We can all agree on that Trimac!  ;D

Yes, we can! I do think 99-00 started to be somewhat '00sy, but it was still pretty '90s at the time in terms of coolness factor. Like Nirvana was still a fairly cool band.

Yes, we can! I do think 99-00 started to be somewhat '00sy, but it was still pretty '90s at the time in terms of coolness factor. Like Nirvana was still a fairly cool band.


Are you saying Nirvana are not cool anymore?  ;) They have never been uncool...and I don't think they'll ever become uncool. Sort of like the Doors.

Are you saying Nirvana are not cool anymore?  ;) They have never been uncool...and I don't think they'll ever become uncool. Sort of like the Doors.


They are not uncool, but they are not the apex of coolness anymore.

I'm not kidding here, but I feel the 00s started bang on January 1st, 2000. After the turn of the millennium (although the millennium changed in 2001 not 2000...). I guess we weren't really affected by Sept. 11 as much.

As I'm old enough to realize, Thong by Sisqo and Capcom Vs. SNK: 2000 really gave me a sense of a new era at the time.

I think maybe between 2001-2003 was when the 90s were starting to die off. But I never truly remember anything before the 2000s, so I can't really be sure of what I know that happened in the 90s in my personal life.

For me, when the '00s began is a tossup between Bush's inauguration in 2001 or when the Marshall Mathers LP came out in spring 2000.  I lean more towards spring 2000 because fall 2000 felt very '00s and not '90s really at all.

On an objective level, I consider 9/11 to be the true start of the cultural 2000s, but only so far as it was no longer the regular Y2K era (aka, the intermediate period caught squarely in between the 90s and 2000s). I think autumn 2000 was about the point in time when popular culture felt more 2000s than 90s, even though the late 90s ties were definitely still alive. On a truly personal level, I would say spring 2000 was the start of the 2000s because that's when I switched to a different elementary school.

I feel similarly about the start of the 2000s as I do about the beginning of the 90s. Autumn 1990 was when popular culture crossed the threshold to become more early 90s than late 80s, but the proper beginning of the 90s, distinct from the intermediate Bush '41 era, was not really until autumn or even winter 1991.

Christmas of 2002, when I got a gamecube and moved to Texas a week later.

I'd say...
Obviously chronologically: January 2000
politically: September 11th 2001
Culturally: either 2003 or 2004
Overall: Late 2001

This whole thread is just full of classic 2006-era InThe00s drama. ;D

Man, though, I'd totally forgotten how big of a jerk that "5.19.86" guy was back in the day. Nobody could turn a peaceful thread into a flame war quicker than him. I guess that's why he got banned not long after this.

This whole thread is just full of classic 2006-era InThe00s drama. ;D

Man, though, I'd totally forgotten how big of a jerk that "5.19.86" guy was back in the day. Nobody could turn a peaceful thread into a flame war quicker than him. I guess that's why he got banned not long after this.

I've gone back and read the comments from that era VERY VERY fun stuff! ;D ;D ;D

This whole thread is just full of classic 2006-era InThe00s drama. ;D

Man, though, I'd totally forgotten how big of a jerk that "5.19.86" guy was back in the day. Nobody could turn a peaceful thread into a flame war quicker than him. I guess that's why he got banned not long after this.


Pretty much anything from 2004-2006 seemed really classic to this site.

Musically when I heard In Da Club and Crazy in love in 2003, I knew that 00's music was here!

As for the news, I saw 9/11 as ending the 'happy', 'invincible', 90's.

Oh! You meant when 'I', personally, felt the 00's was here! Oops! For me, it was 1999. No, I'm not kidding.

I suppose for me personally it would be September 2000, which was when I began middle school.

Musically when I heard In Da Club and Crazy in love in 2003, I knew that 00's music was here!

As for the news, I saw 9/11 as ending the 'happy', 'invincible', 90's.


Meh. The news wasn't the same since 9/11. Even to this day.

Really just January 1, 2000. I remember going back to school a week later and writing the date on my notebooks "January 7, 199... oh wait it's 2000, damn it!"  ;D

I would say Fall 1999 since that's when I moved into the house I'd live in until 2004, but it was in the same neighbourhood that I was living in since 1993, it was just a bigger house. Not a massive difference.

If we're talking about the "really real" 2000s, I'd say when Avril Lavigne's Let Go album came out in late 2002. That album and most things that came out around that time are just so undeniably 2000s to me. I still get 2000/2001 stuff confused for coming out in the 90s, but never 2002. 2002 was also when I bought my Gamecube. I usually confuse my 2000s N64 games like Paper Mario or Mario Party 2 for coming out in the 90s, but never my Gamecube games.